Talk:Yugra

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For Vince: before you say again that this is not Hungarian Old Homeland, check this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hungarian_migration03.gif You can see that here are 2 territories named "Magyar Oshaza" (Hungarian Old Homeland), one of them is located in Bashkiria and another one in Yugra, and from Yugra, Hungarians moved to Bashkiria. Also read this too: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magyars#East_of_the_Ural_mountains_.28before_the_4th_century_AD.29 Do you see there a title "East of the Ural mountains"? If you have problem with geography, then you should know that Yugra is in the east of Ural, and Bashkiria is in the west. PANONIAN (talk) 12:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Zolotaja Baba (Kultainen Akka)[edit]

This golden natural size statue described as the "Holiest Object" of Handa-hui people. There are many stories of this missing legendary statue. Some even published during Soviet era. In Finnish literature the old stories of "Siperian Kultainen Akka" have also appeared.

Timofei Jermak tried to find it by torturing Handa-hui shamans but they chose painful death without saying where this statue was hidden. As a revenge for Jermak´s cruelty a Handa-hui soldier managed to kill Jermak by shooting his horse in the middle of 1.5 metre deep river. Jermak was drownded because he weared so heavy armour that he could not stay up from water.

Most likely the Zolotaja Baba has a Roman origin. Old Handa-hui folklores tell of their brave soldiers which went to war from Jugra and when returned much later back from their war journey "to the edge of the warm sea" they bought with them the statue of Zolotaja Baba.

JN

Location of Yugra?[edit]

I'm a little confused by the description of the location of Yugra. The text says it's between the Urals and the Pechora, which is the western side of the Urals. But then it talks about the Khanty and Mansi, who are on the eastern side of the Urals. 128.135.222.164 (talk) 07:26, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

On the one hand, the Mansi apparently used to live west of the Urals as well (within today's Komi Republic, I guess); on the other hand, Yugra may sometimes have been defined to include the eastern slope of the Urals too (as shown e.g. on Herberstein's map in the article). The 16th-century geography wasn't that precise... Vmenkov (talk) 07:34, 2 November 2009 (UTC)