Talk:Zarb-e-Sukhan

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Hi @Greenbörg:, the reason I'm removing the AfD template is because this page has not yet been nominated for deletion, and the tag you're trying to apply here is the specific one for The Wise Way.

If you're trying to nominate this article for deletion you need to follow the steps laid out [here]. Landscape repton (talk) 14:08, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Archived links[edit]

User:Landscape repton, I've looked at this revision of the article. And I am providing archived links of some of the dead sources so that you can reinstate the verifiable content:

Thanks. - NitinMlk (talk) 18:18, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for this. I'm on mobile now which makes it hard to follow up now but will get round to it when I can. I will note that the problem with geo Urdu was the source itself, as it states that it doesn't accept editorial responsibility for content posted on it, and editorial oversight is often taken as a necessary feature of a reliable source. Landscape repton (talk) 22:19, 18 July 2017 (UTC)
Hi again. I've had a better chance to look at this.
Ref 1 and 10 I haven't touched. It's useful to be able to include the archive link but I'm not sure if there was a wider point you were trying to make in relation to those?
The Daily Jang reference got cut as part of the clean-up with particular regard for self-promotion. It's only use was to source a 'prize' he received, but the 'prize' was awarded by the publisher of the book. That's self-promotion, and since the prize is of no profile or prominence it's also assigning undue weight to it.
In general, I think Daily Jang is one of the better and more useful sources we have for this author, and so if the source can be reincorporated to support of other aspects of this article or the other, I'm all for it.
Ref 12 I addressed in the previous comment.
I will also say that I think the most pressing issue here is whether this page really needs to exist as distinct from the author page (whatever happens with that). By my reckoning, it fairly clearly fails the notability requirements for a book, being without an ISBN, and not available in "a dozen or more" library collections, and apparently not in the national collection of its country of origin (whether that's taken to be The Netherlands, or Britain, or Pakistan). Landscape repton (talk) 12:26, 19 July 2017 (UTC)