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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.


Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
December 27 1
February 26 1
March 8 1
March 12 1
March 14
March 17 1
March 19 1
March 25 1
March 26 1
April 2 1
April 4 1
April 6 1
April 7 2 1
April 9 1
April 10 1 1
April 11 1 1
April 12 1
April 13 1
April 14 1
April 20 2 1
April 22 1
April 23 1
April 24 3 1
April 25 1
April 26 2 1
April 27 1
April 28 1 1
April 30 3 1
May 1 1
May 2 1
May 3 6 2
May 4 3 1
May 5 4 2
May 7 1
May 8 3 2
May 9 2 1
May 10 1 1
May 11 3 2
May 12 4 2
May 13 6 5
May 14 3 3
May 15 6 4
May 16 4 2
May 17 3 1
May 18 6 1
May 19 6 4
May 20 13 6
May 21 11 5
May 22 10 4
May 23 6 3
May 24 7 4
May 25 5 4
May 26 8 5
May 27 10 7
May 28 9 6
May 29 10 7
May 30 7 6
May 31 11 5
June 1 9 8
June 2 11 6
June 3 9 3
June 4 8 4
June 5 10 6
June 6 9 4
June 7 11 7
June 8 18 6
June 9 16 5
June 10 8 3
June 11 6 4
June 12 11 3
June 13 5 1
June 14 2
June 15 7 1
June 16 5
June 17 6
June 18 3
Total 358 164
Last updated 16:31, 18 June 2019 UTC
Current time is 16:35, 18 June 2019 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.

Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading‍—‌the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]


This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.


Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on December 27[edit]

XIX Army Corps

  • ... that the XIX Army Corps, a Nazi era German Panzer corps, fought its way from Luxembourg to the English Channel in just ten days? Source: Guderian, Heinz (2003) [1950]. Erinnerungen eines Soldaten. Motorbuch Verlag. ISBN 3879436932. OCLC 460817326.

Created by Ted52 (talk). Nominated by DannyS712 (talk) at 18:08, 31 December 2018 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - I'm probably just blind, but I don't see where the article explicitly supports the material in the DYK hook and cites a source supporting it
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I find the article very interesting and comprehensive; I can tell the creator worked very hard on it and that is much appreciated! However, I'm afraid this will require work before it can be eligible. I'd suggest first making sure all material is supported by a reliable sources and then requesting a copy-edit. I haven't fully reviewed for neutrality yet but will soon. Best of wishes, SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 03:13, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

@Ted52: can you take a look at this? I'm not any where to as knowledgeable about this page as you are... --DannyS712 (talk) 04:36, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@DannyS712: All material can be supported by sources, but I was of the impression that citing the same page over and over again is just bad style. I could go through the work of citing every paragraph? Ted52 (talk) 14:29, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Hey Ted52. Since you're using an inline citation style, then the general rule is that there should be a cite for at least every paragraph, and if a paragraph has material from multiple citations you may sometimes want to distribute multiple refs within that paragraph. Using a cite multiple times it's not a problem; it's certainly better than having unsourced material. The following sections in particular need to be sourced better:
  • Wizna and Brest-Litovsk (6–16 September 1939)
  • The "German-Soviet Parade" and the Conclusion of the Campaign (17 September - 6 October 1939)
  • Preparations
  • Attack towards the Meuse (10–13 May 1940)
  • In the Somme Basin (17–20 May 1940)
  • Towards Dunkirk (21–29 May 1940)
  • Panzergruppe Guderian and southern Redeployment (28 May - 9 June 1940)
  • Southern Offensive (10–22 June 1940)
  • Panzergruppe 2
  • XIX Mountain Army Corps
It's an interesting read, and again, I can tell you worked hard on it. Let me know if you have any questions.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 14:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Template:Reply to:SkyGazer 512Very well, will do. Is there a way I can template one reference and use it for the next? Reentering the same book's info over and over again is cumbersome, but I also don't want to do the thing where it's like "p. 100 - 200", because that's silly. I would like to preferably use the same reference over and over again for like 60% of the passages you inquire about, but with a slightly different page notation each time. The reason why most of the paragraphs aren't cited is exactly that 'cumbersome' functionality of having to build the reference from scratch everytime. Ted52 (talk) 16:19, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
@Ted52: Well, I suppose you could convert to using {{sfn}} refs. Basically how that works is you have two reference sections; one of them has a list of sources and the other usually just contains {{reflist}}. For the list of sources section, you include |ref=harv at the end of each citation template. Then, whenever you want to use a reference in the article, use the coding {{sfn|Author's last name|Year the author wrote it|pp=Page number range (or p=single page number)}}, and make sure that in the list of sources section each ref has a last= parameter and either a year= or date= parameter. If you do everything correctly, when you click on a sfn ref used in the article, it will be abbreviated and take you to the ref section with the reflist; then if you click on the highlighted ref there, it will take you to that ref's entry in the list of full sources, which only need to be listed once. It sounds confusing, yes, but once you get used to it it's not as bad as it seems. The documentation page for the template gives a lot more details. I can give you some examples if you'd like and I could help you convert the refs for this one. It's often a good idea to use it when there are book citations which you use a large number of pages from. Another technique sometimes used is having sfn for some sources and the other "main" ref style for others, such as using sfn for only books.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 16:40, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
An example of a page using sfn for only the book refs is Chinese alligator (e.g., the abbreviated Reading & Miller 2000, p. 72. in the reflist which links to the full ref in the sources subsection: Reading, Richard P.; Miller, Brian (2000). Endangered Animals: A Reference Guide to Conflicting Issues (illustrated ed.). Greenwood Publishing Group. ISBN 978-0313308161. Retrieved December 9, 2018.). Molly Morgan is an example of a page which uses sfn for all references except one. If you have any further questions, please let me know; this can seem quite confusing. I highly recommend that you read the documentation page for the sfn template if you might want to use this style.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 16:44, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
(btw, Ted52, the correct coding for a ping is {{reply to|USERNAME HERE}}, not {{reply to:USERNAME HERE}} :-)--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 16:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Another way to repeat citations of the same source, specifying different pages, is to define a reference by name (e.g. SOURCE) and combine that with a page number template e.g.
    <ref name="SOURCE"/>{{rp|6-42}}
    Repeat as needed, just give relevant page numbers each time. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 02:34, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

─────────────────────────G'day all, I just noticed this on the Milhist alert list. I thought I'd give you a heads-up that Guderian was the commanding general of this formation at the time, and we need to be careful about accepting what he says as gospel, given he is probably too close to the subject. It would be much better if this hook was cited to a reliable source that was independent of the subject. As a general observation, the article relies far too heavily on Guderian's writings, needs more independent reliable sources, and we need to be wary of the clean Wehrmacht trope associated with many Wehrmacht generals trying to whitewash their activities during the war. Also, the article should be at XIX Army Corps (Wehrmacht) IAW pre-emptive disambiguation arrangements for military formations per WP:MILMOS#UNITNAME. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 10:08, 6 January 2019 (UTC)

@Ted52: It's been a while since this nom has received any activity; would it be possible for you to cite the hook to a source that is independent of the subject and reliable, per Peacemaker67's suggestion? Thanks, --SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 04:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
@SkyGazer 512:@Peacemaker67: I think I have been quite careful in pointing out the rather obvious flaws with Guderian's writings in terms of the war crimes committed by the German units during the operation, and used them strictly for the purpose of the unit's military movement. Yes, there are authors I could cite - Piekalkiewicz, Mazouwer, Shirer, Frieser, Kershaw, Bishop and others have all at least tangentially written about XIX Army Corps, especially as it was so central to the operational success of the whole campaign. But - and this a big but -, they all go back to Guderian's writings as their source for any troop movements they describe. You'll reliably find his books in their bibliographies, and, if inline citations are used, they either reference him or often earlier authors that also referenced him. You're not going to find precise primary source information about what battle lines the units were to take on Guderian's orders or what crossroads they were to advance to or what towns were or weren't captured in a single day outside of Guderian, who got to use his personal notes for the information at hand. I tried desperately to staff up any information that could be double checked, but even good old Percy Schramm couldn't help me, as his war diaries don't start before August of 1940. So, if it's okay to just phantom cite Guderian through other authors, I guess I can try and do that, but that's hardly intellectually honest. Ted52 (talk) 08:36, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you very much for your work on the article, Ted52. Looking through this nomination and the article, I think it would be best if I let somebody do the rest of the review. It would be nice to have a second opinion on whether the sourcing is sufficient now. Also, it is a really long article and I have been doing quite a bit in both real life and Wikipedia lately, so I'm not sure I would be able to take thoroughly look over so many paragraphs and sources myself. In addition, I'm not particularly knowledgeable with the article topic (although it is very interesting) or the languages the refs use. Therefore, I'm requesting a new reviewer. I apologize for taking so long to get back.--SkyGazer 512 My talk page 00:15, 14 March 2019 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg I appreciate the substantial effort that has been put into this article, and I would like to see this nomination move forward. Before I pick up the review, I have a couple suggestions. The article's introduction is very small compared to the text in the main body. I think it should be expanded to adequate summarize the key points of the article. I also note that there are several properly licensed photos in the article which would be suitable for a photo hook. It would be nice to feature this nomination in the photo slot. Once the introduction is expanded, I will go ahead with the full review. Flibirigit (talk) 02:05, 13 May 2019 (UTC)

Ted52, thank you for the expanded introduction. It looks good at first glance. I will start reading through in more detail later today. It might take me a few days to do a full review because this is a big article, but I promise to do a bit each day until we are done! Flibirigit (talk) 13:38, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
EdChem, your contriubtions to the introduction are noted here. Would you like to help out with this nomination? Thanks again. Flibirigit (talk) 19:25, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
Flibirigit, thanks for the acknowledgement. I actually came here as I need to do some QPQ reviews, saw that this needed an intro, and started it. I do mean to extend on it to cover France but have not returned – real life and all that! – but I will get to it within a few days. I can't be a reviewer now that I've added half an intro, but I will help out if I can. Certainly the article deserves main page exposure, but also a copyedit and some referencing work like including English-language titles of references. EdChem (talk) 14:48, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
EdChem, thanks again for what you have do so far. I can wait a day or two if time is needed. I understand, as we all get busy. I will likely do this review in bits and pieces since it is a substantial work. Aside from the introduction, I am curious if a hook can be formed from one or more of the photos in the article. I'm also curious about limiting the very long table of contents via Template:TOC limit. We could leave each day as a header, but add one more level to the hierarchy and group them by week or battle perhaps? Flibirigit (talk) 15:14, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
I apologize for not getting back to this sooner. I will go over it again in more detail tomorrow and on the weekend. Flibirigit (talk) 21:20, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Ted52, EdChem, I am about halfway finished reading through the article. I will post a finished review tomorrow. I can work with the present hook, but are either of you interested in proposing a hook with a photo? Flibirigit (talk) 03:18, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Second review

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Red XN - ?
Overall: Symbol question.svg The article is still new enough and long enough as in the first review. I found nothing that makes the article biased in favour of either side of the war, and is neutral in tone. I alos detected no plagiarism issues. The hook is interesting, mentioned inline, and is cited by a combination of sources. There is not photo used in this nomination as of yet. The nominator User:DannyS712 has more than five DYK credits, therefore QPQ is required. There are still a few paragraphs which need citations, however I note a big improvement from the first review. Also, there are a few section headers which are blank. I'm unsure if more text is coming to fill these in, or if they can be removed. The introduction appears to summarize only the eastern front. It needs to be expanded with content from the western front. Flibirigit (talk) 03:17, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

@Flibirigit: qpq added --DannyS712 (talk) 04:58, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. Flibirigit (talk) 05:08, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
  • DannyS712, Flibirigit, I note that the 27 May 1940 and 21 June 1940 sections still remain blank, which is not allowed under DYK rules. Also, if there are any sections that are uncited, these need to be taken care of. DannyS712, do you think these can be taken care of soon? This nomination has been open since the final day of 2018, over five months ago, and really needs to be concluded. Thank you very much for whatever you can do. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:07, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
I have posted on the talk pages for Ted52 and EdChem to find out if either have time to contribute. I am willing to do copyediting, but I do not have the time or expertise to research the concerns I mentioned in my review above. If no help is coming soon, I will mark the review for closure. If that happens, I hope the article is eventually improved to GA status and nominated again for DYK. Flibirigit (talk) 21:38, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
@Flibirigit: It has to be noted that neither editor has edited this month. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
@Flibirigit:@Narutolovehinata5: Removed those sections. But frankly, I am no longer interested in this DYK thing. I have no idea why you guys are pursuing this if the article was previously already rejected. But whatever. Ted52 (talk) 13:33, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg I am sorry to hear that Ted52 no longer wishes to be involved, despite this nomination not being rejected at this time. Since there are still some unsourced sections at this time, this nomination cannot be approved at this time. I will wait a few days to see if EdChem or DannyS712 wish to continue. Flibirigit (talk) 15:22, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
@Flibirigit:: It's not so much about no longer wishing to be involved and more so my dissatisfaction with the intransparency of the process. However, I am interested in keeping the article to the highest quality possible. What do you think needs more sourcing? Ted52 (talk) 19:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Ted, thank you for be willing to continue with the article. I will compile of list of sourcing questions and post it here by tomorrow or Friday at the latest. As for the transparency of DYK, I am more than willing to answer any questions. The rules and processes for the project are outlined here at Wikipedia:Did you know. At the Wikipedia talk:Did you know page, you are also welcome to ask any questions you like. Thanks again. Flibirigit (talk) 20:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Sourcing questions

Please see list of sourcing questions below. All paragraphs must have at least one citation at the end, as per the DYK rules. Flibirigit (talk) 19:29, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

  1. Section: Poland Campaign-->Preparations. Last two sentences of the second paragraph are not cited.
  2. Section: Poland Campaign-->Action at Tuchola Forest (1–5 September 1939). First paragraph is not cited. Maybe it should be combined with the paragraph which follows it.
  3. Section: Western Campaign-->Preparations for the Western Campaign. Ambiguous whether citation [35] applies to some of all of lists which follow it.
  4. Section: Western Campaign-->10 May 1940. First paragraph has no citation.
  5. Section: Western Campaign-->12 May 1940. First paragraph has no citation.
  6. Section: Western Campaign-->13 May 1940. Second paragraph has no citation.
  7. Section: Western Campaign-->13 May 1940. Last paragraph has no citation at the end.
  8. Section: Western Campaign-->14 May 1940. First two paragraphs have no citations.
  9. Section: Western Campaign-->14 May 1940. Fourth paragraph has no citation at the end.
  10. Section: Western Campaign-->16 May 1940. Paragraph has citations in it, but not at the end.
  11. Section: Western Campaign-->21 May 1940. Last paragraph has no citation at the end.
  12. Section: Western Campaign-->22 May 1940. Second paragraph has no citation at the end.
  13. Section: Western Campaign-->25 May 1940. Paragraph has citations in it, but not at the end.
  14. Section: Western Campaign-->29 May 1940. Paragraph has citations in it, but not at the end.
  15. Section: Western Campaign-->11 June 1940. First paragraph has no citation at the end.
  • Flibirigit I've always interpreted the sourcing requirements to be one per paragraph, not one per paragraph, required to be at the end of the paragraph. Where are you seeing that? --valereee (talk) 20:28, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
  • That's correct, valereee. WP:DYKSG#D2 includes the following: A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the lead, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize other cited content. The uncited paragraphs need to be cited. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:25, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
In the interests of not overwhelming this creator, who is a very new editor, does anyone object to me striking the questions that only object to paragraphs that have no citation at the end? --valereee (talk) 20:47, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
With all due respect to everyone involved, this review has been going on for months, with numerous issues being hacked out on the nomination page. Meanwhile the article in question hasn't been edited by User:Ted52 in more than a week. My suggestion at this point would be to remove this DYK nomination, and bring the XIX Army Corps article up to GA, where in that event it will be once again elligable for another DYK nomination. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:55, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
Once again, I don't get tagged when something is demanded of me. I really cannot reasonably be expected to follow a DYK nomination process that I myself didn't initiate. I apologize to have wasted everyone's time, but please cancel the DYK nomination now. That said, I have now complied with the citation requests by Flibirigit. Ted52 (talk) 05:52, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm sorry for initiating this - when I first came across the article I thought it had potential for DYK. I didn't realize how much of a burden this would be. @Ted52: sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 05:59, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg There appears to be agreement between the article creator and the nominator that the article is not ready for DYK at this time. Marking for closure as withdrawn, without prejudice towards renomination if the article is brought to GA status. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:13, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg The added citations by @Ted52: are a great improvement to the article. The only remaining concern I have mentioned is the introduction summarizing the Eastern Front, and not the Western Front. If anyone wishes to expand the introduction accordingly, the nomination will be a pass in my review. Flibirigit (talk) 22:47, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Flibirigit, pinging nom DannyS712 as Ted52 is simply the creator. From reading through the review, I'm not sure Ted52 was actually up for the DYK process. I like the article a lot and would like to see it get to DYK, but I'm not sure it's fair for us to ask Ted52 to do the work! :D --valereee (talk) 15:30, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Flibirigit, I would like to suggest that the article is complete enough for DYK standards. WP:DYKSG#D7 is the relevant guideline: while it would be nice to have the Western front information in the introduction, it is all included in the body of the article. DYK articles are expected to be works in progress, for the most part. The nomination has been open for five and a half months; we shouldn't be keeping it pending when the actual DYK requirements appear to have been met. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:35, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
It is not necessary to ping me on this page. If I do some minor copyediting, expand the introduction and the pass the review, would the DYK community still feel I am a neutral reviewer? Flibirigit (talk) 16:56, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for the ping; I'm using an autoresponder that adds it in as a default, but I'll try to remember to delete it when replying to you! I have no objection to you making article edits and then finishing the review here. --valereee (talk) 17:11, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
I will start updating the introduction today, and hopefully give final approval by tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 16:08, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 26[edit]

1 the Road

  • ... that artificial intelligences have have begun to write novels? Source: "On March 25, 2017, a black Cadillac with a white-domed surveillance camera attached to its trunk departed Brooklyn for New Orleans. An old GPS unit was fastened atop the roof. Inside, a microphone dangled from the ceiling. Wires from all three devices fed into Ross Goodwin’s Razer Blade laptop, itself hooked up to a humble receipt printer. This, Goodwin hoped, was the apparatus that was going to produce the next American road-trip novel." (and link the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that at nine seventeen in the morning, the house was heavy? Source: It is a partial quote of the AIs first words "The novel begins suitably enough, quoting the time: “It was nine seventeen in the morning, and the house was heavy.”" (and link the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by RTG (talk). Self-nominated at 06:52, 26 February 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, within policy, and the hook meets the hook criteria. Good to go. In my personal opinion, however (@RTG: this is more food for thought if anything) that the premise of the article is interesting enough as it is (the first book to be written by AI!) that it doesn't really need a super quirky hook like ALT1 to capture the reader's attention, and the primary hook might be a tad confusing as readers may think that it's an article talking about AIs writing novels in general when it's instead about a specific novel. I personally think something super simple like ALT2: ... that 1 the Road is marketed as the first novel to be written by an artificial intelligence? would work best, but again, that's up to you Satellizer el Bridget (Talk) 10:32, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Yes the primary is clunky. ~ R.T.G 11:29, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed for ALT2. Yoninah (talk) 22:59, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 is the best hook listed here. It is very catchy, properly cited and mentioned in the article. Accepting hook, with the rest of the review as per User:Satellizer above.Flibirigit (talk) 18:11, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I don't find an inline cite for the ALT2 hook fact. I also don't think the article is start-class yet. It has a largely uncited lead section and one paragraph of authorship, also cited to a single source. Aren't there any production details or publishing history? Yoninah (talk) 19:46, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Sorry I musn't have pressed send. In fact the first article is called "The First Novel Written by AI Is Here—and It’s as Weird as You’d Expect It to Be" and it goes on to say, "1 The Road is currently marketed as the first novel written by AI." A quote from the AI creator Goodwin. ~^\\\.rTG'{~ 22:15, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
  • @RTG: OK, I moved the cite up to the first sentence in the lead. But the article still doesn't seem start-class. Yoninah (talk) 20:45, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
  • I must put it that this article requires the reader to scroll to finish reading. The subject is a book which makes no sense, is significant only in regard of its author, and has captured a lack of popularity which is both amazing and unsurprising at the same time. If 1 the Road was published in 2000, or even 2010, you could be telling us there was too much useless information in the article, but this is the future and the future is way more crap than advertised.
  • Sorry for the delays. I swear my ping system sometimes flashes up a ping then makes it disappear before I can read it. I must request somewhere that no notification ever be auto-deleted. ~^\\\.rTG'{~ 07:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg It has been another month without any further needed action from RTG. Allowing another seven days for action, but after that, this may well be marked for closure as abandoned by the nominator. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
  • I am the last one to post here. You say, "without any further needed action from RTG" yet in the next sentence that I have abandoned the nomination under a deadline for "action". The reviewer is asking for more than DYK requires. The reviewer is claiming they simply can't believe the topic is so short. I'm agreeing with them. They are the ones who have left it here. If they just reviewed it under the DYK rules, it would have been done long ago because it met that on the first day. It was written specifically with DYK in mind. "This will make a good DYK," I was thinking. The purpose of DYK as I recall was to attract editors to new content, not present them with a finished article. The idea was to have the article to a certain standard, not the ultimate standard. I've gone over it several times. I don't want to lose any love for the topic. I repeat, I have responded here. It is not my action you are waiting for. The article meets the character limit. It meets all of the DYK rules. The reviewer is asking for more. Please tell them not to, thanks. ~^\\\.rTG'{~ 09:31, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
  • RTG, as far as I could tell, Yoninah was saying that the article, while technically meeting the 1500-character length criterion, did not meet "a certain standard"—it wasn't sufficiently robust (hence the comment about not being start-class, which is the next level of quality above a stub). I believe she was referring to this rule: Articles that fail to deal adequately with the topic are also likely to be rejected. I notice that another editor has expanded the article from 1728 to 1996 prose characters; perhaps Yoninah can take another look to see whether her concerns have been addressed. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:59, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
  • OK, I rewrote the lead and added more information from the sources, as well as reorganized the page so it reads like a Wikipedia article. I removed the part about it being 60 million words long, which is a misquote from the source. The article is now start-class. But ALT2 is not going to work. An article about it in The Atlantic states: "They’re collected in 1 the Road, a book Goodwin’s publisher, Jean Boîte Éditions, is marketing as “the first novel written by a machine.” (Though, for the record, Goodwin says he disagrees it should bear that distinction—“That might be The Policeman’s Beard Is Half Constructed by a program from the ’80s,” he tells me.)" Perhaps it's best to say just that the novel was written by artificial intelligence, period. Yoninah (talk) 19:23, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
  • I am compelled to disagree with Yoninah by pointing out they haven't added any substantial amount of information and have merely copy edited and detailed the information already there. It seems a positive contribution. There is no "misquote". It says sixty million words and gives the megabyte size of those words before later in the article giving a description of another collection of twenty million words, and the megabyte size of that (twenty million words from which the AI draws words and phrases for its prose), so it is easy to draw the comparison. Yoninahs suggestion feels like if one publication disputes another, to delete the whole thing? It doesn't seem to match the modus operandi of the site. You report the dispute, even if it is your own words saying simply, sources disagree about one point on this subject, rather than pretend there is no possible reliable source of information. The curses of an overabundance of information is not in our rationale? ~^\\\.rTG'{~ 16:22, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
  • @RTG: Well, we are constantly running into problems with eagle-eyed editors who will find someone or something else that was the "first".
  • If you could supply a source that says the novel is 60 million words long, we can use it in the hook, like:
  • ALT2: ... that an artificial intelligence has written a 60-million-word novel? Yoninah (talk) 19:57, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
  • The 60 million words is a misquote. The sixty million words is a reference to the pool the AI drew from. ALT2 is wrong to my mistake. The AI drew from several 20 million word lists of literature totalling 60 million words. Sorry about that... ~ R.T.G 07:46, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 8[edit]

British Rail Class 458

A South West Trains Class 458 which was converted from a former Gatwick Express Class 460. The unit number is 458533.
A South West Trains Class 458 which was converted from a former Gatwick Express Class 460. The unit number is 458533.

Improved to Good Article status by Pkbwcgs (talk). Self-nominated at 17:28, 8 March 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg QPQ not needed. Promoted to GA on March 8. Hook is interesting. Article is NPOV with no obvious copyvio. Image is currently CC licensed. (I took the liberty of adding (pictured) to ALT-1.) The hook is inline cited using the term "reconfigured" instead of "converted" which I think is fine. The source used to cite that is offline (Modern Railways), however, meets what I would consider a reasonable definition of RS. All looks good. Chetsford (talk) 07:10, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
    Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this. I was wondering if it's obvious that the hook is referring to British Rail Class cars (it's not obvious to me). I also wonder if anyone cares. This is a GA; could you suggest a better hook? Yoninah (talk) 22:07, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Yoninah: How about ALT3 which replaces "Class 460" with "trains" with a link to the article Class 460. Pkbwcgs (talk) 10:34, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Pkbwcgs: I have a feeling you're so familiar with the subject that you can't see it like an outsider. I don't live in England. I have never taken a train. I'm afraid that ALT3 isn't even remotely interesting to me. What would make it interesting is adding another fact that I could relate to, like the cars were too squishy, or cars were eliminated in the process of renovation, or...? Yoninah (talk) 10:56, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Yoninah: How about ALT4? Pkbwcgs (talk) 13:51, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Pkbwcgs: Better, thanks! Please add an inline cite after that sentence. Chetsford could you review ALT4 please? Yoninah (talk) 15:10, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Yoninah: This source. Pkbwcgs (talk) 19:49, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Pkbwcgs: thank you. I meant you should add a cite to the article after this sentence: Six of the eight Class 460 trains lost three carriages in the process, leaving them as 5-car trains that were also reconfigured as class 458/5 trains. Yoninah (talk) 20:36, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Yoninah: That is the best source I can find to give the general idea that the eight-car Class 460s were converted to six five-car Class 458. Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:41, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Pkbwcgs: OK. So are you going to add the citation to the article?
    Meanwhile, I see someone else has deleted the part about losing 3 carriages. Yoninah (talk) 17:27, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Yoninah: I reverted the edit as the previous version was more detailed. Pkbwcgs (talk) 18:43, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Pkbwcgs: OK. Please add the inline cite to the sentence about losing three carriages. Yoninah (talk) 19:27, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Yoninah: I can't find a citation that says that the Class 460s have lost three carriages. The best I could give was the website I have stated above. I may need help from another user who has expertise in British railways. Maybe User:Redrose64 could help. I have done a detailed search and the citation from railnews was the best I could find. Perhaps this citation could be better but it doesn't make a specific mention of the Class 460s losing carriages. Pkbwcgs (talk) 21:19, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
    @Pkbwcgs: OK. So from a DYK point of view, we need another hook. From a GA point of view, that sentence does need to be sourced, or deleted. Yoninah (talk) 22:10, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
    From what I understand, it goes something like this. Class 458 was originally 30 x 4-car units, total 120 cars; class 460 was originally 8 x 8-car units, total 64 cars; for a grand total of 184 cars. Of the 8-car units, six have been reduced to 5-car units and redesignated class 458, releasing (6 x (8-5)) = 18 cars; the other two 8-car units were disbanded, releasing 16 cars of which four have been stripped for spares and scrapped. This means that the cars released from class 460 units totalled (18 + 16 - 4) = 30 cars, exactly the number required to strengthen all of the 4-car Class 458 units to 5-car. The final tally is 36 x 5-car units, total 180 cars. So in terms of factual accuracy, ALT4 should have the word "each" inserted before the word "lost". But I don't have a source explicitly stating that. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 00:07, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
    The more I look at this, the more shaky ALT4 becomes. Having now analysed the individual car numbers allocated to the units before and after conversion (using various editions of the Platform 5 "British Railways Locomotives & Coaching Stock"), here is the breakdown:
    Former units 460001 and 460002 were entirely split up, each car ending up in a different unit, with six cars from each (12 in all) going to former 4-car units, three cars being redistributed among the other former Class 460 units, and one car scrapped
    Former units 460003 to 460008 were partially split up, with three cars from each unit (18 in all) going to former 4-car units, but the remaining five cars of each were not kept together:
    • 458531 includes two cars from 460008 and one each from 460002, 460003 and 460006
    • 458532 includes three cars from 460007 and one each from 460004 and 460005
    • 458533 includes three cars from 460003 and one each from 460006 and 460007
    • 458534 includes four cars from 460004 and one from 460008
    • 458535 includes four cars from 460005 and one from 460001
    • 458536 includes three cars from 460006 and one each from 460002 and 460008
    The four scrapped cars were one each from 460001, 460003, 460007 and 460008.
    So I find that there isn't a single instance of a class 458 unit containing five cars from the same class 460 unit, which is what we would expect if three cars had been removed from six of the 8-car units. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 23:50, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
  • @Pkbwcgs, Chetsford, Yoninah, and Redrose64: This has been stuck for over a month. Any updates? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:10, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
    I added a new hook above. Pkbwcgs (talk) 14:02, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I find it hard to find ALT5 in the article. All I see is a chart with the (unsourced) number 6 as to the number of trains. I also think that all the life has gone out of the hook. This is a GA; could you suggest something else that is interesting and has an inline cite? Yoninah (talk) 20:23, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Reading the hooks again, I have to say that none of them are really interesting to a broad audience: at best maybe they only appeal to train fans. I agree with what Yoninah mentioned above: can something better be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:41, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
    • I agree that the Gatwick Express-linked hooks are quite specialised and dry, too much so really, but I think there is a wealth of potentially interesting hooks in the article - I've suggested some below. Spokoyni (talk) 10:07, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT6:... that the British Rail Class 458s (pictured) were awarded a Golden Spanner?
  • ALT7:... that the British Rail Class 458s (pictured) initially suffered failures on average every 4,300 miles (6,900 km)?
  • ALT8:... that the British Rail Class 458s (pictured) initially suffered failures on average every 4,300 miles (6,900 km), but by 2012 managed 106,049 miles (170,669 km) between failures?
  • ALT9:... that the Class 458s (pictured) were the first new fleet of trains to be delivered following the privatisation of British Rail?
  • ALT10:... that six years after first entering service, the British Rail Class 458s (pictured) were so unreliable that their operator considered replacing them all?
  • ALT11:... that in 2004 the British Rail Class 458s (pictured) were so unreliable that their operator considered replacing them all, but by 2012 they were the most reliable fleet in Britain?
Symbol question.svg Of the new hooks, I think ALT10 and ALT11 are the best, with a slight preference for ALT11 as it shows both the reliability and unreliability. I don't have access to the sources used for them so I am assuming good faith. This is almost ready to go: my only concern is that there's no footnote in the "Fleet details" section. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:49, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
I like ALT11 and I think that this should be used as the source for the hook. Pkbwcgs (talk) 20:49, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
@Pkbwcgs: Can you please cite the "Fleet details" sections so that this can be approved? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:16, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have cited the "Fleet details" section. Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:34, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Almost good to go: however only one of the cells has a footnote, when both probably need it (I can't seem to verify one cell in the source given, the one about TSOL). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:54, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
@Pkbwcgs: Ping. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:31, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 12[edit]

Media coverage of 2019 India–Pakistan standoff

Created by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 23:18, 16 March 2019 (UTC), co-nom by DBigXray 12:40, 22 March 2019 (UTC) .

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed, since the nomination is continuing rather than being withdrawn. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:04, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review still needed; it's been over two weeks with no review posted. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:28, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  • This is a poorly written article on one of the most volatile areas in the encyclopedia. I remain inclined to work on this article and get rid of the UNDUE stuff. WBGconverse 13:09, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Winged Blades of Godric: Any updates?

Articles created/expanded on March 14[edit]

Articles created/expanded on March 17[edit]

Felipe Reinoso

Created/expanded by Vycl1994 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 19 March 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The lead is too short. In the original hook "state legislature" must be replaced by "state legislature of US". RRD (talk) 17:07, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
The article lede now mentions Reinoso's tenure on the Connecticut House, and his election to the Peruvian legislature. ALT3 above specifies U. S. state legislature in addition to the wikilink state legislature (United States) that was already present. Vycl1994 (talk) 17:39, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
@Vycl1994: The lead claims that he was born in circa 1950. However, there is no source for it in the article. I have also added a when tag to the article. The article needs a little copyedit also. RRD (talk) 07:04, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
@Royroydeb: The biographical sketch attached to Reinoso's interview with Reyes states "Reinoso was born in Peru and immigrated to Connecticut in 1969" Keating, Pazniokas, and Lender (2008) states "Rep. Felipe Reinoso, a Bridgeport Democrat, flew back from his native Peru - where he lived for 19 years before moving to Connecticut".... Both references are linked to the sentence "Reinoso and his family immigrated to the United States in 1969, settling in Bridgeport, Connecticut." at the moment. Vycl1994 (talk) 14:33, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Sources I mentioned in my last post on this page are still accessible, support statements made in the article, and remain in position on the article itself. Every statement in the article body is sourced. If something is still not right, I welcome Royroydeb or any reviewer to let me know. The newest addition to the article is a barebones infobox, added by me, just prior to this edit. Vycl1994 (talk) 07:39, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 19[edit]

Pema Dhondup

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 21:35, 19 March 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is too short, and contains less than 500 bytes of readable prose, which is all in the lead section. Please expand the article to have at least 1,500 bytes of readable prose. List and plot info do not count toward this total. —Ynhockey (Talk) 00:58, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
  • @Ynhockey: I've expand the article.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:44, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
    • @CAPTAIN MEDUSA: Thanks, the length looks OK now, though I would still recommend expanding the article further. In any case, the article requires copyediting for grammar and style; I have added a relevant tag, this will likely be addressed by the guild of copyeditors. Feel free to post a request on their page to speed up the process. —Ynhockey (Talk) 13:28, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
    • @Ynhockey: I've fixed copyediting for grammar and style. ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:24, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
      • @CAPTAIN MEDUSA: It seems that the article is still not well-written, and contains many English language mistakes. I see that you have requested a review at GOCE though, I think we can wait until they help you. I might be able to do so at a later time, but then another reviewer needs to look at the nom. —Ynhockey (Talk) 18:28, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
      • @Ynhockey: Article has been copy edited by Guild of Copy Editors___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:49, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Hook + source look good, article issues have been fixed. —Ynhockey (Talk) 13:44, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but I do not understand the hook. What is a "Nepalese Hollywood film"? The source doesn't call it that, nor does Wikipedia's article about it. Also, the hook seems to be implying that it is the first Nepalese Hollywood film, while the article says it is Dhondup's first Nepalese Hollywood film. I suggest you fix this description in the article and try a different hook. Mentioning his background or studies in Los Angeles might lend themselves to a better hook. Yoninah (talk) 20:10, 17 April 2019 (UTC)
  • @CAPTAIN MEDUSA: you new hook doesn't make sense. "Between" implies a contrast between two things, not one. I also don't see the hook fact in the article. I fleshed out the biography and note that you are not making full use of your sources in writing the article. While I used his LinkedIn page for biographical details, you can look up these facts online and then credit them to other sources if you wish. Here is another hook idea:
  • ALT2: ... that Pema Dhondup studied filmmaking at the University of Southern California on a Fulbright scholarship so he could use the medium to tell the story of his "lost generation" of Tibetan youth? Yoninah (talk) 21:13, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
I like ALT2 the best but at 193 it's really long and probably could use some trimming. Yoninah. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:17, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I like ALT2a but the problem is that the article may still need some form of copyedit. The grammar is off at times and there are some improperly capitalized trademarks (such as the mention of Sony). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:57, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, I have fixed the capitalized trademarks.___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:15, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 25[edit]

Golem (Casken opera)

  • ... that John Casken's 1989 opera Golem received the first Britten Award for Composition? Source: book source

Created by Marosc9 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:35, 1 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - new and long enough (barely). Inline citations checks. Review made. No image to review. Hook looks interesting enough for inclusion. BabbaQ (talk) 22:10, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg What is this award? If it's notable, can a page be started to link it? Yoninah (talk) 21:54, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
  • No idea. Midnight, and Easter for 2 days. Patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
  • I would have created a page on the Britten Award for Composition myself but research on the internet came up with almost nothing on it beyond John Casken being the first winner for Golem and Philip Cashian being the second winner, though I don't know what the composition was in his case. I've emailed the Britten Pears Foundation today who, if anyone should, should have more information. Let's see what they come back with. --Marosc9 (talk)
  • @Marosc9: thank you. But if it's not a notable award, why are you using it as a hook fact? Could you suggest another hook? Yoninah (talk) 22:48, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
  • I think you need to ask those questions of the nominator Gerda Arendt. I'm hoping the Pears Britten Foundation will be able to provide enough of a lead so that I can write an article on the award.
  • Suggesting ALTs below, might work better since the award in question does have an article (which says that it is considered the Oscars of classical music):
ALT1 ... that John Casken's 1989 opera Golem won the 1991 Gramophone Classical Music Award for Best Contemporary Recording?
ALT2 ... that John Casken's 1989 opera Golem is a recipient of a Gramophone Classical Music Award, often considered as the "Oscars of classical music"?
@Gerda Arendt, Marosc9, BabbaQ, and Yoninah: Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:06, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for offering. ALT1 is fine by me. ALT2 has too much focus on the award for my taste. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed to check ALT hooks, and also to do the rest of the "within policy" checks (neutrality and free of close paraphrasing, etc.). Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:34, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg This article was new enough when nominated and is long enough. The ALT1 hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. However, the article needs some citations for the "Roles and scoring" section and for the first paragraph of the "Recordings" section. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:08, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 2[edit]



5x expanded by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 10:33, 2 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. It's been nearly three weeks without any follow-up. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:55, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article meets the technical requirements. Assuming good faith for the offline sources. No close paraphrasing found, QPQ done. However, the children table lacks a reference, and I feel that the current hook might be too prosaic to be hooky. Perhaps a better hook could be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:21, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: The children table has been removed. New hook
I think that's a much better hook. Will try to give this a full review by tomorrow. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:25, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
I apologize for the delay as I had been caught up in other matters. Anyway, I have two issues at the moment: firstly, the sentence discussing ALT1 lacks a footnote. Secondly, are there more details about this revenue administration system? The sentence that comes after seems to talk more about government administration than the revenue administration. Or was that sentence the one which discussed the revenue administration system? The wording isn't very clear on that. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:53, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have now added an inline cite
Comment I know we've moved on from Alt0, but just in case: 'restrained' is probably not the intended word. Refrained? --valereee (talk) 00:19, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
@Valereee: Probably. I am not a native speaker of English. What I meant that Lord Bentick did not interfere into Hyderabad state during the reign of the Nizam Nasir-ud-daulah. RRD (talk) 09:15, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Royroydeb, 'refrained from interfering', then! He might have 'restrained himself from interfering' also. It's a mistake even native speakers might make. --valereee (talk) 10:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
I think my issue with ALT2 is that it uses simply "Nizam" despite being a relatively unfamiliar word: using the full term "Nizam of Hyderabad" might be a better option here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:07, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 4[edit]

Proposed 2019 amendment to the Constitution of Malaysia

Created by Night Lantern (talk). Self-nominated at 09:00, 10 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Will be claiming this for review; I have struck ALT1 as being too long and too winding. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Took a quick look at it and the article is a bit long for a short review, but right now my concern is the "Background" section. It doesn't seem to present the material in a neutral way, and even seems to use some POV-ish language. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:21, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi there! Thanks for the review Mr. errr.. Naruto? 😅 Regarding the "background section", do you mean the POV on word such as "ignorance"? Seems I don't have idea on what choice of words that are very suitable for the replacement, mind to share some suggestion? Night Lanternhalo? 08:28, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
This would include words that "Among the very sensitive breached agreement", "negligence", "cannot appreciate the diversity and decentralisation were connected in the process aside from the ignorance", which are not suitable for Wikipedia in their current form. One suggestion I could give could be to request for a copyedit of the article over at WP:GOCE/R; this could also prove useful as there are also quite a few grammatical errors in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:38, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg I've gone ahead and requested a copyedit; this nomination should be put on hold until that is finished. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:46, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you Mr. Naruto. ☺ Night Lanternhalo? 02:25, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Hi Narutolovehinata5, I have rewritten the background section. There's still a lot of room for improvement, so it would still benefit from a GOCE lookover, but I believe it is an improvement in terms of POV. CMD (talk) 14:04, 11 May 2019 (UTC)

I'll defer comment until the copyedit is accomplished given the sheer length of the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:24, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg I received a message that the copyedit will not be finished due to concerns about copyright violations, as well as a general need for restructuring. Taking these into account, the article does not appear to be ready for DYK at this time. Sorry for the bad news. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:01, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
After the copy-edit by Mr. Blackmane, the percentage of copyright violation is about 37.9% based on data from Earwig's. I agree there still the need for sentence restructuring, thank you for taking your time to review the nomination. Many thanks to the copy editor as well. ☺ Night Lanternhalo? 00:45, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
As I've been pinged, I'll add a few comments. The biggest problem (apart from copyvio) is the chronology is all over the place, especially with the use of sources. Some sources are used to discuss aspects that occurred before the vote, but the same source would also be used for aspects that occurred after the vote. This would be very confusing for the reader. I would suggest reconsidering the layout of the reaction section. Also, the responses sections needs a massive pruning, there's more material on the response than there is on the actual substance of the amendment. Just my 2 cents. Blackmane (talk) 02:03, 4 June 2019 (UTC)


  1. ^ Adam Aziz (9 April 2019). "No two-thirds majority for Bill to make Sabah, Sarawak equal partners". The Edge Markets. Retrieved 10 April 2019.
  2. ^ "Status of Sabah, Sarawak stays". Bernama. Daily Express. 10 April 2019. Retrieved 10 April 2019.
  3. ^ "Bill to make Sabah, Sarawak equal partners rejected in Malaysia parliament". Bernama. Channel NewsAsia. 10 April 2019. Retrieved 10 April 2019.

Articles created/expanded on April 6[edit]

Amy Wax

Created by Mhym (talk). Self-nominated at 02:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Comment. There was an earlier (first paragraphs nearly identical, except for some deletions by the nom in this second one) version of this page at AFC by an editor other than the nom here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Amy_Wax&action=edit&redlink=1 In some ways that earlier version was better -- it had footnotes for every assertion in the first few paragraphs, while in this version nom took them out. This version also needs grammar cleanup - "the" and "a" and similar words were dropped from the first version, where needed. Also, some facts, like that the subject attended Harvard Law School, were deleted for some reason. I think if the first version is made viewable and this one is improved along these lines this will be better for approval for this category. Also, when in this version nom writes "Amy Wax has been called "notorious..", maybe it would be an improvement to say by whom. Also, it may be a good idea to have the controversy paragraph, which presents only one side, instead comply with wp:npov (representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic; and switching out "claimed" for "said"; etc.).2604:2000:E010:1100:A066:E3A3:DD44:3FFC (talk) 17:02, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
  • This is a stub, not a WP:GA. I agree it can use some work. That's part of the purpose of DYK - to bring attention to new or newly revised article, if I remember correctly. As to your assertion - I did not copy anyone's previous article but wrote from scratch instead. Some technical wording is copied from Wax's CV, which may explain similarities. I don't think terminology and official award titles are a copyvio. Please fee free to improve the article and/or the hook. Mhym (talk) 07:12, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks. First, can an admin please make available the article that was hidden from view here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Draft:Amy_Wax&action=edit&redlink=1 ? It has important information that should be in this article, for one thing. Its was created before this draft, its deletion followed shortly (by mere hours) the submission of this article, and its deletion is not un-controversial (which was the asserted basis for its deletion).
Second, I agree a stub is fine. But for an article to appear at DYK on the main page, I think we should be careful to have footnotes for every assertion. The deleted draft had them - for the same information where the footnotes are missing here. One of the reasons I have asked for the deleted draft page to be restored.
The prior version also has fixes to the grammatical problems of missing words that I noted we have in this second version. For the main page, I do not think we want such errors.
Also, you did not say anything about the problem I pointed out with the controversy paragraph you drafted. It presents only one side. I think for the main page in particular, we would want to comply with wp:npov. This does not. To do that we would have to represent fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all of the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on the topic. We would also switch out "claimed" for "said", as wp:npov suggests.2604:2000:E010:1100:CD84:F876:2C42:BC9E (talk) 22:08, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
  • As far as providing all the refs and links - I don't have access to those which used to be there. Please help me with this if you have them. I guess I don't see any vio of WP:NPOV. Basically, it's all biographical, no opinion based. As in she said something. Others didn't like it. Some people called on UPenn to fire her. UPenn didn't. What exactly is non-neutral here? Reporting groundswell of support of Wax? I don't know if that happened. Mhym (talk) 01:30, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Happy to help. I've now twice asked the editor who deleted it to restore it (in addition, it its deletion is not controversial, the reason given for deleting it). I've also asked here - maybe an admin here will help. It has more information (her attending Harvard Law, family background, etc). If you read NPOV, you will see that the cherry-picking of those with one view of her statement, while leaving out completely those who support her statement (or her right to make it), is something we are supposed to try to avoid. There are a number of articles pointing out the other camp; in your research you would have seen them. If you want me to, I will do the work. Also, saying "claimed" instead of "said" - as the guideline states - is a sign of not being sensitive to the need for npov. The guideline explains why. Anyway, once we get the original draft, which was more complete and had all the references that are missing, I will be happy to help you get this promoted. BTW - what inspired you to write this article just now (unless it was coincidence), while there was another draft article awaiting promotion (that incident was in the news, but quite a while ago)?2604:2000:E010:1100:B951:7500:D62B:D57A (talk) 00:53, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Glad to hear you can help. I came across critique/praise of her research work, tried to look her up and found no WP article. I don't care for the controversies and didn't hear them at the time. But they clearly make her notable, probably more than her research work, unfortunately. Thus I included the section. AFIK, the wording can be massaged and improved in any way. That's also why I made a DYK nom - so that other editor help improve on the article while I am no longer very involved. Mhym (talk) 05:06, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Great. I am happy to help you improve this article as soon as an admin helps us by restoring for reference the draft that preceded this one, with the relevant text and footnotes that this later version is missing. It was deleted as a "non-controversial" deletion, but since there is now controversy about it being deleted, I hope an admin can restore it (at least long enough for us to look at it to improve this one). Then we can improve this, improve the npov issue, and put this in shape for a DYK for you. 2604:2000:E010:1100:B951:7500:D62B:D57A (talk) 05:26, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
Here, see why this was so weird! Just when the draft of this subject was cleared of any question of copyvio, after it had been sitting awaiting for a couple of days for all to see, as it awaited promotion to article status -- that was the very same day of all days that your article was created! [1] And its not as though she was in the news that day, or week, or month. And as you can see, the article that had been put up for review prior to your draft is very similar (except for the last paragraph that yours added). [2] I will work now to help you to make your draft better, adding the omitted footnotes, etc.2604:2000:E010:1100:D0B2:B1DE:173C:580 (talk) 17:08, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your work! The article is in a good shape now and ready for review. Mhym (talk) 19:21, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Drive-by comment: I would recommend against using the word "controversial" in a hook without explaining how she has been controversial. feminist (talk) 06:34, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Came to suggest the same thing. Taken by itself, "controversial" is confusing because it doesn't define what kind of statements caused the controversy. hinnk (talk) 03:49, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I agree with the above two comments. I think the article itself is now fine. I added the footnotes from the prior article, so that every assertion has a footnote. And there is now a balance in the controversy section, with views on both sides reflected -- rather than just one side. But as the prior editors point out, the hook could use some massaging (also, the bit in the third hook about race relations isn't quite accurate). 2604:2000:E010:1100:A82D:DCDC:4C65:430B (talk) 16:06, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg - New enough, long enough, inline citations checks out. I prefer the second hook. Good to go.BabbaQ (talk) 11:24, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg I've had to pull this from prep for two reasons: firstly, there were objections by other editors above that the word "controversial" shouldn't be used in the hook, and secondly, the nominator appears to have more than five DYK credits (based on their talk page) and appears to have not done a QPQ. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

I am the nominator. My last nom was in 2010. I have no idea what is QPQ, but I am guessing this is a post-2010 invention. For practical purposes, after so many years, I am a newcomer. Please WP:DBN! Mhym (talk) 16:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
As your last nomination was before the QPQ rule was implemented, perhaps there could be an WP:IAR case here and ignore that requirement for the purposes of this nomination (if you want to read more about the rule, please read WP:QPQ). However, there is still the problem of the hooks having the word "controversial", which other editors have objected to. One possible solution could be to simply delete the word from the hooks, though I'm not sure if there's consensus that this would solve the issue. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:01, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
I am the 2604 IP above. I'm ok with the article, and ok with the hook with the word controversial (it is a hook -- it is supposed to hook the reader in to get them to read more, not explain everything .. as wp:hook says it should be "short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article") or without the word controversial. 2604:2000:E010:1100:A4C1:B86F:6F82:993D (talk) 03:58, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
You may want to read WP:BLP. In any case, I think referring to a living person as "controversial", especially on the main page, regardless of whatever really happened, is a very very bad idea. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:56, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
I would actually prefer ALT2 which moves "controversial" away from Dr. Wax to her statements. There is no BLP issue in that case, as numerous issues are controversial by their nature, including race relations. Mhym (talk) 14:09, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Agree. And her comments being controversial is mentioned and referenced in the article itself. And -- get this -- the living person herself (Wax) wrote in the Wall Street Journal that she wrote "a controversial op-ed." I don't see a BLP issue here at all, under the circumstances. 2604:2000:E010:1100:9DA0:73BE:71E9:B67E (talk) 16:54, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
There still appears to be reservations about the use of the word "controversial", and based on the comments by Feminist and Hinnk above, I'm not sure if ALT2 would be enough to allay those concerns. A new direction may be needed in any case. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:14, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
I was initially in that camp, above. But now am with the majority. Given the points made above. But anyway, how about changing it to "controversial statements regarding Black law school student performance." That's actually probably better. 2604:2000:E010:1100:4C10:48F3:E1AA:BC6A (talk) 02:01, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 9[edit]

Bohumil Herlischka

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:51, 10 April 2019 (UTC).

  • I've struck ALT0 as being insufficiently interesting to a broad audience. ALT1 is somewhat better, if only because of the mention of the tour stopping in Israel. I will leave the reviewing to another editor. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:03, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
I object to the striking but leave it to someone else to undo it. A Czech stage director introduces the works by a underrated Czech composer to Germany, initiating him to be staged rather frequently, and this is so much appreciated that a cycle is done, comparable to the Wagner's Ring cycle, and the Zurich Mozart cycle, and you think that's not interesting? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:12, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
I don't think it's interesting to people unfamiliar with classical music, which I'd assume is the vast majority of Wikipedia readers. Remember that we are writing for general audiences, not opera fans, and I don't think the typical reader would know or even care who these people are or what these songs are. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:23, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
These songs are operas - works of several hours each, and the staging of a single one is a giant and expensive effort, and now it's six! - and again, people who don't know what an opera is will not enjoy the article, but we can also tells those something special who recognize names as being Czech. - For some reason, you seamed to understand that for the artist Overton we should say something differentiating her work of giant sculptures from tiny pictures, - why not here? The Schoenberg was a great feat, no doubt about that (people though it could not be staged at all, and the premiere was music only), but the Czech, where the soprano said that he really knew about peasants in that area and how to get that on the stage, connects better to his origins. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:32, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
I'm sorry Gerda, but are you having difficulty understanding my point? You said that "people who don't know what an opera is will not enjoy the article", and that is actually a major issue! If anything, that kind of viewpoint would even further disqualify the hook fact from being allowed: a hook being interesting to a broad audience is required, and those that do not meet that standard tend to be rejected. DYK is intended for people who don't know about a topic, and writing hooks with that are intentionally made to be interesting only to a specific audience not only is against DYK rules, but defeats the whole purpose of the project. Think of it this way: you want to educate common people about classical music, right? Well if I was an ordinary reader, no way would I read the hook or the article since I would not get the point. We're trying to help you here Gerda: this is not intended to discredit you, your contributions, or your interests, we are only trying to help you avoid complaints and the like. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:51, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
I can't help that my topics are kind of in a niche, and the hooks about them have a tendency to follow, - or would not say something specific to the topics. - I was trained to make only 2 comments in a discussion, sorry for a third. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

New day (from my talk, where this came up): If I have only one sentence to speak about a person's life achievements, I want that to be his best, regardless of that it may not be of interest to the general reader, just believing firmly that it should interest the general leader. For the sake of brevity (but loosing that it was a project that took 8 years to be accomplished):

ALT2: ... that Bohumil Herlischka staged a cycle of six operas by Leoš Janáček, presented at the Deutsche Oper am Rhein in the 1977/78 season? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:59, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Honestly, ALT2 doesn't really solve the issues I had raised above regarding broad interest. Again, it really only appeals to classical music enthusiasts, and I can't see people of other interests being fond of this one. Right now, one possible way move forward appears to be to go with a variation of ALT1. Something along the lines of:
ALT3... that Bohumil Herlischka's production of Schoenberg's Moses und Aron, which premiered at the Hamburg State Opera, was later performed in Israel?
Personally I think that a German production being performed at a non-European country could be appealing. If you don't like this suggestion, there are still other possibilities, like how one of his plays was created to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Deutsche Oper am Rhein. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Since Gerda wasn't able to respond, I'll propose the following hooks below based on my above suggestion; she is free to reject them if she doesn't like them, or to suggest a reword:

ALT4 ... that Bohumil Herlischka directed the opera Behold the Sun – Die Wiedertäufer, which was commissioned for the 25th anniversary of the Deutsche Oper am Rhein?
ALT4a ... that Bohumil Herlischka directed the opera Behold the Sun – Die Wiedertäufer for the 25th anniversary of the Deutsche Oper am Rhein?
ALT4b ... that to commemorate the 25th anniversary of the Deutsche Oper am Rhein, Bohumil Herlischka directed the opera Behold the Sun – Die Wiedertäufer?

I just realized that had this been proposed earlier, the hook could have worked as a special occasion hook for April 19, but I guess it's too late now. Here are other possible alternatives that hopefully aren't too complicated:

ALT5 ... that Bohumil Herlischka served as the stage director of the Prague National Theatre from 1951 to 1957?
ALT6 ... that Bohumil Herlischka's staging of Weber's opera Der Freischütz (The Marksman) was met with strong opposition as he did not stage its traditional Happy Ending?
ALT7 ... that Bohumil Herlischka's 1964 staging of Der ferne Klang (The Distant Sound) was the first performance of a Franz Schreker opera since the banning of Schreker's music by the Nazis in 1933?

Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 16:30, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Late to this feast, - when I show playlist on my user talk, I'm out singing, and can't reply. We do have a massive misunderstanding. I didn't say find a hook, I objected to striking one, not being the reviewer, just because it's not fascinating for you. I fight less when I invested less time in an article, but this one was really hard for me to expand enough. Of all the hooks, take ALT1. I am still convinced that the original (or ALT2) is a better summary of this specific person's cultural background and enormous feat. I don't remember any cycle of six operas, and then unknown ones that are much harder to teach the performers! - All the Wiedertäufer hooks miss world premiere, and I'm not sure our average reader would deduce that from "commissioned". Nice hooks for the opera, but not for him. Perhaps I'll write it some day. Talking about Prague while his mature career was NOT there seems wrong to me. I saw a performance of Der Freischütz last year, also without happy ending. ALT7 is good, but again, says more about Schreker's work and fate than Herlischka, other than that he has courage. Yes, go for ALT7a (formatted), it mentions Nazi, that's always good for click numbers. I hope some sarcasm can be noticed.
ALT7a ... that Bohumil Herlischka's 1964 staging of Der ferne Klang was the first performance of a Schreker opera since the banning of his music by the Nazis? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg As I proposed several hooks, this will need a review by a new reviewer. @Serial Number 54129: Can you do so? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:24, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
    I've unstruck ALT0. I completely disagree with any notion that this is "uninteresting to a broad audience". Janacek is one of the greatest composers of the 20th century, but his operas are far less known than his string quartets. The fact is that Herlischka introduced Janacek's operas to Western european audience, setting the roots for this music to be performed with higher frequency there. Zingarese talk · contribs 22:03, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
The issue here though is not about Janáček, but the hook fact about staging of the six operas, and the hook doesn't even imply anything about the "introducing to Western audiences" part. And in all honestly, there are other facts mentioned in the article that are more intriguing to broad audiences (unlike ALT0 which in all honesty only really appeals to classical music fans). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:21, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

It's been over a month since the last comment here. I've gone ahead and restruck ALT0 as I don't believe that Zingarese's comments sufficiently addressed the concerns I had about the hook (specifically, when they said that Herlischka helped raised Janacek's profile in Western circles, while the hook itself does not say that and is frankly too complicated as I don't think the part about the cycle is necessary). As a compromise, I am listing below a simplified version and making a request at WT:DYK for a new reviewer (I personally find both ALT0 and the ALT0a I'm proposing below as rather bland, but I'll let the new reviewer decide). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:06, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

ALT0a... that Bohumil Herlischka staged six operas by Leoš Janáček at the Deutsche Oper am Rhein?
Better than nothing, but you are missing the most unusual aspect, that they were also played in one season. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure how to accommodate that request in the context of ALT0a, and honestly I don't think that would appeal to a broad audience. Reading through this again, ALT5, ALT6, and ATL7a might be our best options here. Would anyone new be willing to take a look at this? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:47, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Have it your way. (I think the original hook did just that.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:43, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 12[edit]

George Ali Murad Khan

George Ali Murad Khan seated on throne
George Ali Murad Khan seated on throne

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 14:41, 19 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Nice decent article but we need a better source for the claim. Will indulge in some copy-editing. WBGconverse 12:10, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Expanded the article by 2X. Struck out hook; for being inaccurate. Once again, I cannot over-emphasize the need to abide by WP:HISTRS.To quote a reliable source:-In contrast, by 1951 India – all princely states included – was participating in the first nationwide general elections on the principles of ‘one person, one vote’ and representative government, while in Pakistan only Khairpur and Bahawalpur even achieved universal adult franchise, and no state realised full responsible government. The issue of pin-pointing the state that first achieved universal-suffrage -- Bahawalpur (wherein a very similar law was passed days before Khairpur's) or Khairpur or the entire country of India (which has decided on suffrage, long back and preparations of voters list et al were in swing for years) is not easy. WBGconverse 15:03, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
  • @Winged Blades of Godric: The claim in the hook was cited from The Friday Times, a Pakistani newspaper. Also in this revision, you have added a fact and added citation needed to it! RRD (talk) 12:44, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
  • A Pakistani source has all the reasons to claim exaggerated stuff. Similar for Indian sources; if this was an India-based article. My source was a peer-reviewed scholarly publication and I see at-least one leading expert in the area, as a co-author.
  • As to cn template; I need to get the precise bibliographic data of the source, once I go for my next visit to National Library of India :-( The soft-copy that I can access through my subscriptions has a lack of it. WBGconverse 13:32, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
I also have to note that the article currently has a citation needed tag. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have removed the unsourced statement.
  • ALT1:... that George Ali Murad Khan, the erstwhile ruler of Khairpur state of Pakistan initially wanted to join India? RRD (talk) 02:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
    ALT1 is probably a better option, but I will leave the rest to the original reviewer Winged Blades of Godric. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:05, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
    I have removed my addition, sourcing ain't strong. The hook is thus, ineligible. WBGconverse 09:53, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed; at this point, Winged Blades of Godric has contributed too much to the article to be eligible to review here. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 13[edit]

Birjis Qadr

Birjis Qadr
Birjis Qadr
  • ... that Nawab Birjis Qadr became a poet during his exile in Nepal?

5x expanded by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 16:18, 21 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Looks good. Source-checks pending. WBGconverse 12:12, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg A new reviewer is needed as the original reviewer has been unable to return in spite of a talk page message. If no one else picks this up in a week, I'll do it myself. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:50, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is an expansion and is new enough and long enough. Winged Blades of Godric seems to have checked the referencing of the article. The image is in the public domain, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:30, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Returned from prep per discussion at WT:DYK#Prep 5 image hook. The article needs copy-editing and clarification, and a new hook is needed with more context and hook interest. Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
  • This nomination also appears to have been made 8 days after expansion began. The reviewer should decide if it merits IAR. Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 23:19, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Just adding my two cents here. As the nomination was only a day late, I don't see any harm in allowing it per WP:IAR. Secondly, here are two possible alternative hooks: the first is basically the original hook with added context, the second adds the reason for his exile:
ALT1 ... that Birjis Qadr (pictured), who was Nawab (leader) of Awadh state in northern India, became a poet after going into exile in Nepal?
ALT2 ... that Birjis Qadr (pictured), who was Nawab (leader) of Awadh state in northern India, went into exile in Nepal after the Capture of Lucknow in 1857?
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:02, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
  • It strikes me that one very interesting fact is that he went into exile when he was twelve years old. Adding that fact to both of the above hooks to get ALT3 and ALT4:
  • ALT3 ... that Birjis Qadr (pictured), who was Nawab (leader) of Awadh state in northern India, became a poet after going into exile in Nepal when he was 12?
  • ALT4 ... that Birjis Qadr (pictured), who was Nawab (leader) of Awadh state in northern India, went into exile in Nepal after the Capture of Lucknow in 1857 when he was 12? —BlueMoonset (talk) 05:35, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
The problem with ALT3 is that it's a bit of a run-on sentence, the hook makes it vague if he was 12 when he went into exile or when he became a poet. ALT4 kind of solves the issue, but in any case, perhaps a reword is in order. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:30, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 14[edit]

Opon Ifá

  • ... the Ifá divination system employs Opon Ifá to solve quotidian problems via communicating with spirits?

5x expanded by Sangbin1999 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:08, 22 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Despite some expansion, this is still quite a way short of a 5x expansion. See Wikipedia:Did you know for eligibility criteria. Spokoyni (talk) 16:44, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment: to clarify, the article was 1534 prose characters prior to expansion, and is 4224 prose characters currently. It would need to expand further to meet the 5x expansion requirement to 7670 prose characters, or by more additional characters than have already been added (2690 have been added; another 3446 would be needed). If Sangbin1999 thinks there's enough encyclopedic material to add to reach 7670 prose characters, they're welcome to expand it further and let us know they'll be doing so over the next little while; otherwise, the nomination will have to be closed. Thanks. (I have formatted the hook so it meets DYK requirements.) BlueMoonset (talk) 14:46, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that the article has reached 9207 prose characters, and is a 6x expansion, more than is needed for DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:51, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article is certainly long enough and of good quality/meeting all policies/well sourced. The time factor I'll leave to promotors to decide on - in future it will aid reviews if your nomination is made with the necessary expansion nearly or already completed, as this has taken several weeks to get to DYK length and technically the "new" aspect requires it to take no more than seven days. Is there any reason why "quotidian problems" is used instead of the more accessible "daily problems"? The article does not use "quotidian" at any point. And while the article discusses how the divination process works, there is no mention of what sort of problems, daily or otherwise, it is intended to help with. This would need to be explicitly sourced and added to the article. Spokoyni (talk) 11:18, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
    • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The article creator doesn't seem to have edited much, or to be really engaged with this review. It's certainly DYK-worthy though, and its the hook that is the sticking point. I've added a few more options below that are sourced in the article, if @Sangbin1999: would like to comment, or another reviewer can confirm. BTW, from what I read in the article and the notes from their tutor, the plural of Opon Ifá is the same as the singular. Spokoyni (talk) 10:21, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that Opon Ifá are used in the Ifá divination system of Yoruba tradition?
  • ALT2 ... that the design of Opon Ifá praise and acknowledge the work of the babalawo?

Articles created/expanded on April 20[edit]

LGBT history in Poland

  • ... that despite its long history, Polish LGBT people started organizing only in the 80s?

Created by KamillaŚ (talk). Self-nominated at 20:04, 20 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I would love to get this through, but the article is lacking citations for a lot of text, and needs a copyedit. I'll wait for a response and see if there are significant updates. Kingsif (talk) 21:23, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
    • @Kingsif: I added the citations in place of all "citation neededs" and clarified few parts. but I would love to see someone help me with writing style, copyedit etc, as its not my strongest side in english. KamillaŚ (talk) 19:36, 21 April 2019 (UTC)

I made some corrections and added something. And maybe we should consider a more eye-catching DYK question - e.g. ... that throughout its history homosexuality has never been criminalized by the Polish law? (However, we would have to make sure whether it's really true.). BasileusAutokratorPL (talk) 13:22, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg It looks mostly OK, but there are some serious concerns in the article. Firstly, it seems to contradict itself in the lead by saying that there have never been any Polish laws that persecute LGBT people, and then also says homosexuality was decriminalized in 1932 so this requires some clarification. Secondly, there are some POV issues. The statement in the lead that "Homophobia has been a common public attitude in Poland, thanks to the influence of Catholic Church in Polish public life, and the widespread conservatism of Polish society." is a clear POV indictment of the Catholic Church and perpetuates the misconception that the Church's opposition to homosexuality is based in homophobia (I am not saying there are no homophobic Catholics, but it is factually false to claim this is the reason the Catholic Church as an institution has historically opposed LGBT rights). Similarly, in the Second Polish Republic section, the article attributes the Catholic cultural taboo on homosexuality to ignorance. I do not see how that cannot be construed as a POV violation. (Keep in mind WP:OUTRAGE: Even perspectives you find morally offensive must be accurately portrayed). As another point, it should be mentioned in the main text that there is significant controversy over the sexual/asexual nature of adelphopoiesis, relegating that mention to a footnote makes this paragraph, in its context, seem to imply that these relationships were definitively sexual. Ashorocetus (talk | contribs) 21:09, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 22[edit]

Matthew H. Todd, Alice Motion

Professor Matt Todd
Professor Matt Todd
  • Comment: (1) I've offered ALTs to try for an informative and clear under-200 character wording. I think it is desirable to name the school involved, and also Turing if possible. Alternatives welcome.
    (2) Pkin8541 is new to DYK and fairly new to WP.
    (3) Todd article written in Draft space and moved to article space by Hughesdarren on 22 April 2019 – added to DYK nomination page for 22 April
    (4) Motion article written in Draft space and moved to article space by Pkin8541 on 24 April 2019
    (5) I (EdChem) will need to provide two QPQ reviews.

Created/expanded by Pkin8541 (talk). Nominated by EdChem (talk) at 02:11, 26 April 2019 (UTC).

I think it's important to quickly mention that it was price-hiked - some drugs are more expensive because there's a smaller number of people needing it, for example.

Pkin8541 (talk) 02:37, 26 April 2019 (UTC)

Axem Titanium (talk) 20:26, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

QPQ: Red XN - Not yet? @EdChem:
Overall: Symbol question.svg Articles look good. I've suggested ALT6 below. Thoughts? @Pkin8541: Axem Titanium (talk) 23:22, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

@Axem Titanium: I like it with a minor change to "synthesised it for less than 0.1%" Pkin8541 (talk) 00:22, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Ok with me for ALT7. Axem Titanium (talk) 01:53, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

@EdChem: everything else besides the QPQ are good to go. Axem Titanium (talk) 22:43, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 23[edit]

Mambo (Vodou)

  • ... that mambos must undergo a multistep initiation process in order for them to enter priesthood and establish their communication with the Vodou spirits? Brown, Karen McCarthy (2001). Mama Lola: A Vodou Priestess in Brooklyn. The University Press Group Ltd. ISBN 9780520224759.

Created/expanded by Thatgirljessie (talk). Nominated by Enwebb (talk) at 18:50, 23 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Just a comment and not a review, but perhaps the hook could be reworded somewhat, as the wording does not make it immediately clear that "mambos" are female vodou priests (i.e. that fact is at the end rather than at the start). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:32, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg This nomination falls short of the 5x expansion requirement according to DYKcheck, going from 978 to 3634 prose characters, when it would need to be 4890 prose characters, so currently less than a 4x expansion. In addition, the expansion started back on April 2 and the article should have been nominated within seven days, so it's two weeks late. Under those circumstances, it seems unlikely that the article will qualify for DYK, although as a first-time nominator—this is part of course work for a class at Bowdoin College—it might be possible for the an exception to be made for the nomination delay. The further expansion would be necessary for this to be considered. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:36, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset: The course ended back on May 7 and the nominator hasn't edited since then, so I'm unsure if they will be able to return to this discussion (and in fact they appeared to never have responded). It's your call if this nomination can still continue, but personally, given the circumstances, I'm leaning towards marking this for closure. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:28, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed now that article is now well over 8x expanded (8533 prose characters) to determine whether it can proceed after having been nominated two weeks late. (We have recently given a first-time nominee a longer grace period than that.) According to the article talk page, the class does not end until May 16, so if there are issues with the nomination, there is still a short window where a response from the author might be possible. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:50, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
  • The class has long ended and the article author is now inactive. This is not a review, but a comment: right now there's a copyedit template edit in the article which was added this month. This needs to be resolved first before this can be promoted. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:20, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg If no editor has agreed to adopt this nomination or do a copyedit by June 24, this nomination will be marked for closure as stale. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:24, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 24[edit]

2019 Saudi Arabia mass execution

  • ... that on 23 April 2019 Saudi Arabia beheaded 37 convicted civilians, most of whose confessions were obtained under torture or written by their torturers? Sources: "According to the ESOHR's documentation, at least 21 people executed by Saudi Arabia today said in court that their statements were extracted under duress and torture" European Saudi Organisation for Human Rights; "Many said they were totally innocent, that their confessions had been written by the same people who had tortured them." CNN
    • ALT1:... that on 23 April 2019 Saudi Arabia beheaded 37 convicted civilians whose confessions were mostly obtained under torture or written by their torturers? Sources: "According to the ESOHR's documentation, at least 21 people executed by Saudi Arabia today said in court that their statements were extracted under duress and torture" European Saudi Organisation for Human Rights; "Many said they were totally innocent, that their confessions had been written by the same people who had tortured them." CNN

Created by Mbazri (talk) and Boud (talk). Nominated by Boud (talk) at 20:36, 26 April 2019 (UTC).

As page creator, I also suggest 3 hooks:

--Mbazri (talk) 09:40, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

I clarified the ALT labels - we now have the original and ALT1 to ALT5; I removed and added the definite article "the" for grammaticality; we could also have "their arrests", making ALT2 and ALT3 slightly longer. Boud (talk) 21:08, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed; above was hook suggestions by creators, not reviews. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:08, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg, timescale ☑Y; length ☑Y; style ☑Y but the article is needed to be copy edited as well as I will select the best hook after finishing the copy edit, anyway please pay attention that the nominated hooks have to be in the article with an inline citation. Also, I am going to suggest to make bold the name of Executees in related section (in order to have readable section). Regards!Saff V. (talk) 11:39, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
    • Probably {{em|name}} would be more appropriate for Wikipedia style for the Executee names than bold. I agree that some copyediting would be good. Boud (talk) 03:05, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
No different, the current version of the Executee section does not seem to be good and easy to read or have a perfect style, anyway please edit the section. In other hands, It is better to nominate the article here for copy editing. Regards! Saff V. (talk) 06:21, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
  • I seem to have misinterpreted your phrase "I will select the best hook after finishing the copy edit" to mean that you planned to do some copyediting. Now it seems you are waiting for me or others to make some edits. Thank you for clarifying that you have withdrawn your suggestion for writing the executees' names in bold. I agree that that would not have been quite consistent with the WP:MOS. I have copyedited the Executees section and a few minor things that were not quite in standard MOS style. Please state concretely what style corrections you feel still need to be made to satisfy DYK standards. Thanks. Boud (talk) 20:09, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The copyediting issue has been addressed. Boud (talk) 21:13, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 25[edit]

Madrasa and tomb of Alauddin Khilji

Madrasa of Alauddin Khilji
Madrasa of Alauddin Khilji

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 10:18, 26 April 2019 (UTC).

  • Doing...-Nizil (talk) 11:51, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah: I have moved the page, gave assessments and done the QPQ. RRD (talk) 14:38, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
@Royroydeb: New, long enough, cited, neutral, no copyvio, image free licensed and would look ok at 100x100 px, QPQ done. The hook is not interesting enough and bit long. Can you propose another one or reword it?-Nizil (talk) 11:30, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah:
@Royroydeb: It is still long and bit confusing. I tweak it a little to make it more hooky. How is it? -Nizil (talk) 16:54, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah: The fact that it is tomb of Alauddin Khalji and is the first such tomb to be built in a school in India is missing. RRD (talk) 15:35, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
@Royroydeb:, its OK to not have king's name and first built in the hook. The hook should sound interesting and should lead reader to the article. So do you find ALTa more interesting and easy to understand?-Nizil (talk) 07:00, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
@Royroydeb:. -Nizil (talk) 07:55, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah: I would still push for tomb of Alauddin Khalji instead oftomb of the king. RRD (talk) 15:37, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@Royroydeb: Is it OK?-Nizil (talk) 05:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 26[edit]


  • ALT0... that menstrual periods can cause bleeding into the chest? Source: Endometriosis is a common gynaecological disorder, affecting 10-15% of women of reproductive age. It is defined by extrauterine growth of endometrial tissue, including endometrial glands and stroma. The ectopic tissue is typically located in the peritoneal cavity, most often in the pelvis, but endometriosis has been reported in nearly all body compartments. Although rarely involved, the thoracic cavity is the most frequent extra-abdominopelvic site of endometriosis. Thoracic endometriosis syndrome (TES) is the term used to refer to the various clinical and radiological manifestations resulting from the presence and cyclical changes of functional endometrial tissue in a thoracic structure (visceral or parietal pleura, lung parenchyma, airways, or diaphragm). Clinical manifestations vary during the menstrual cycle and are more likely to occur during menses, because of the hormonal responsiveness of ectopic endometrial tissue. TES includes five well-recognized clinical entities grouped into two forms, namely the pleural form with catamenial pneumothorax (CP), non-catamenial endometriosis-related pneumothorax (NCP), and catamenial haemothorax (CHt). Rousset 2014, PMID:24331768
  • ALT1... that during menstrual periods, tissue from the womb can bleed into the chest?
  • Comment: PeaBrainC was GA reviewer, Steve Mulch Civic Pro was GA nominator

Improved to Good Article status by Steve Mulch Civic (Pro) and PeaBrainC (talk). Self-nominated at 12:45, 1 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Comment I'm not doing a review but I just wanted to comment that I think both ALT0 and ALT1 seem a bit too scary, because they don't mention endometriosis and someone might think that the bleeding could happen to any woman. Also, "tissue from the womb" sounds confusing to me, because the tissue is actually in the chest. -kyykaarme (talk) 07:46, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your comments kyykaarme. I've tried to make the hook as interesting and engaging as possible and have deliberately omitted technical terms like endometriosis or endometrial tissue. It may sound a little scary but hopefully that should encourage readers to look at the article and find out that it's not so scary after all.
In my opinion it fits the guidance in the Reviewing guide, specifically the example of hooks potentially being "A tease, giving only part of the relevant information". PeaBrainC (talk) 10:24, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
I disagree that endometriosis is merely technical term. It is the cause of the bleeding into the chest and even with endometriosis it's very rare. My point about the scariness is that we should not be saying that menstruation can cause bleeding into the chest because it's not true. I don't understand what you mean by "it's not so scary after all". Basically the hook now says "women can bleed into the chest during their periods" and then the "answer" in the article is "if they have endometriosis and even then it's very rare". To me the hook is misleading. -kyykaarme (talk) 08:59, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Another comment: I support what kyykaarme said, - it sounds scary. Better say what it is, and yes, I'd not pipe but explain, and then perhaps say that in rare cases is can occur with endometriosis. Even I know what that is, so don't fear it will not be understood. I looked at the article for reviewing, but find much of it too technical for my level of English, sorry. Can you try not to "sandwich text between images? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Ok, I appreciate your concerns. I don't want to make it a really dull hook which is massively wordy or loaded with technical terms so as a compromise, how about:
This is an accurate statement and those interested will find out more by reading the article. I think a piped link is much better as Hemothorax is an uninteresting technical term to a non-medical reader which will be unlikely to attract any readers. PeaBrainC (talk) 18:57, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 27[edit]

Articles created/expanded on April 30[edit]

IM 67118

  • Comment: It would be nice to include a photograph of the tablet, but I have not been able to find any with an appropriate license.

Created by Will Orrick (talk). Self-nominated at 22:42, 2 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Will Orrick: This article is new enough and long enough. The hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. No QPQ is needed. Please could you incorporate a date for Pythagoras' birth (with an inline citation) into the article. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:49, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Bladimir Lugo

  • Comment: New article created on 26 April. This person is controversial during the Crisis in Venezuela.

Created by Cyfraw (talk) and Jamez42 (talk). Nominated by Cyfraw (talk) at 07:44, 30 April 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 1[edit]

Louisville Sinking Fund Building

  • Comment: Saturday May 4 is the Kentucky Derby in Louisville KY, which usually gets an in the news spot that day. May be of related interest to this article.

Created by Charles Edward (talk). Self-nominated at 15:47, 3 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Charles Edward: (AGF good pending QPQ) The article is new enough and long enough at 1770 characters, and I'm AGF on the hook source as it is offline. One suggestion is that all but two sentences start with the word "the", and more variety in beginning sentences would improve the way it reads; I've made some changes as well to this end. You also need a QPQ to continue. Raymie (tc) 03:55, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 2[edit]

Le Groupement (cycling team)

  • ... that the Le Groupement cycling team folded in mid-1995 amidst accusations that their sponsoring company ran a pyramid scheme? Source: "Other controversy surrounded the team because of their sponsors. The group behind the main sponsor was the European Association of Marketing Professionals which was said to have been nothing but a pyramid scheme." (Source)
  • Comment: Unfortunately, no image for this one...

Created by Zwerg Nase (talk). Self-nominated at 18:23, 2 May 2019 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - I raised my concern about the source above, and can't see any easy replacements from a quick web search.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - I don't think it's necessary to add the date of disbanding to the hook, since it can have a nicer "punch" if shortened.

QPQ: Red XN - As you have 8 previous DYK credits, you need to complete a QPQ.
Overall: Symbol question.svg Interesting article, and I have taken the liberty of moving it to a title without disambiguation (as there is no conflicting use of that name). SounderBruce 04:22, 12 May 2019 (UTC)

  • @SounderBruce: The nominator hasn't edited the article since your review, apart from adding a short description template to the article. They also appear not to have addressed the concerns or done a QPQ. I'm willing to donate a QPQ to resolve that issue, but then the problem would be on sourcing. I had left the nominator a message but without a response. Considering the circumstances, what can be done here? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:11, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Sorry, I overlooked your message, it got swamped by the Signpost on my talk page... It's true that I have not yet found the time to resolve the issue, even though it's not that hard, I would just need to use the Millar biography even more. All I have to do is find the respective page numbers, which I could do tomorrow, if that is OK. Thank you for stepping in and reminding me that this was still ongoing, I had almost forgot... Zwerg Nase (talk) 08:43, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 3[edit]

Hallo Ü-Wagen

  • ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van) was a weekly travelling talk radio show of the WDR from 1974 to 2010, with participation of experts, guests and listeners (pictured)? Source: [5]

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:44, 7 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article was nominated within the 7-day requirement, it is adequately sourced, free of plagiarism, and AGF sourced to German sources. QPQ still required. The hook is okay but I think a more interesting fact in the article is the one about the host being called one of Germany's 100 Most Influential Women. Would it be okay for you to propose a hook based on that? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
  • In the above hook, "listeners" is somewhat confusing. The article refers to those on location as the "public" and those listening by radio as "listeners". Jmar67 (talk) 11:17, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
I've boldly moved the "(pictured)" to after the article subject, since it appears that the picture is referring to the van itself rather than the listeners. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:28, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
I am not happy with that, and please make your own ALT(s) instead of changing something with my signature under it. Here's yours:
ALT1: ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van, pictured) was a weekly travelling talk radio show of the WDR from 1974 to 2010, with participation of experts, guests and listeners?
Formally, I haven't seen pictured in the same brackets as a translation, also how can you follow the rule to have the brackets italic for one but not the other? Content: the van is NOT pictured (compare image in the source), the program is, presenter talking to public or guests, - ok, I therefore move pictured:
ALT2: ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van) was a weekly travelling talk radio show of the WDR from 1974 to 2010, with participation of experts and guests at the location (pictured), and of listeners?
How do you call people who come to a live radio talk? - Back to the first question: We had the "influential women" thingy already, on 7 May, still on my talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:11, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Those on location are the "live audience". How about
ALT3: ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van) was a weekly travelling talk radio show of the WDR from 1974 to 2010, with participation of experts, guests, the live audience (pictured), and listeners?
Jmar67 (talk) 12:52, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Re deletion of "guests": The article refers to experts and invited guests. Seems OK to mention them. Jmar67 (talk) 13:36, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
OK, guests back. Can you help with the nom for Pütz, arts vs. art? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Going back to this nomination, I think there's potential with the hook fact (i.e. the part about the subject being a travelling radio show). However, I don't think ALT0 and its variants work out wording-wise. I'm not sure exactly how to reword it, but I think the best option would be to try to focus on the travelling part or even the van itself. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:21, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
    What is the objection to the wording? I could suggest
ALT4: ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van), a weekly travelling talk radio show of the WDR from 1974 to 2010, featured experts, guests, the live audience (pictured), and listeners?
Jmar67 (talk) 20:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
The thing I had with the original hook is that it didn't exactly flow well: ALT4 sounds snappier. Talk shows though tend to all have "experts, guests, live audiences, and listeners", and I think it would be a lot catchier to focus on either the travelling aspect or the van itself. I don't think radio shows that take place on the road are that common, are they? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:24, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
I was expecting Gerda to pick up on this. But my question now is: how valid is this nomination in the light of the similar DYK appearance here? Jmar67 (talk) 03:38, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
I always do it like that, avoiding double and triple hooks. She had a career beyond that show, the show lasted beyond her time, - different things. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:30, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Als, no objection means consent. What it needs is a reviewer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
This just occurred to me:
ALT5: ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van), a weekly talk radio programme of the WDR from 1974 to 2010, was an audience participation (pictured) show on wheels?
Jmar67 (talk) 11:07, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, in "participation (pictured) show", - the "show" comes as a surprise. How about this then:
ALT6: ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van) was a weekly radio talk show on wheels of the WDR from 1974 to 2010, with audience participation (pictured)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:43, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
ALT7: ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van) was a long-running weekly German radio talk show on wheels, with audience participation (pictured)?
The WDR ref has always irritated me. Jmar67 (talk) 12:55, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
I won't fight, but do Main page readers know German public radio? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
I very much doubt it. Which doesn't mean that a hook about German public radio would be disallowed, only that additional context would be needed for international readers. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:51, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Context would be established by a link to WDR. It could be piped:
ALT8: ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van) was a long-running weekly German radio travelling talk show, with audience participation (pictured)? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:21, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
I don't see a need for a link in the hook. There is one in the lead sentence of the article. Jmar67 (talk) 23:15, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Since this has been stuck for a while, would a simple hook work?
ALT9: ... that Hallo Ü-Wagen (Hello Radio Van) (pictured) was a long-running weekly German radio talk show on wheels?
I mean, I don't think travelling talk shows are that common in the first place. I know of a few but they're not the norm. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:29, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Yes, thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks, probably ready for a new reviewer. Courtesy ping Jmar67. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
ALT9 is OK with me. Jmar67 (talk) 01:30, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Operation Crossfire Hurricane

  • ... that individuals associated with the Donald Trump 2016 presidential campaign were targeted by a Crossfire Hurricane? Source: Washington Post That information prompted the FBI on July 31, 2016, to open an investigation into whether individuals associated with the Trump Campaign were coordinating with the Russian government in its interference activities New York Times Within hours of opening an investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in the summer of 2016 [...] at the time, a small group of F.B.I. officials knew it by its code name: Crossfire Hurricane.

Converted from a redirect by Starship.paint (talk) and Shinealittlelight (talk). Nominated by Starship.paint (talk) at 01:15, 8 May 2019 (UTC).

Otherwise, this is a really bad idea as the focus is not on the late discovery of the code-name "Crossfire Hurricane", but on common knowledge about the Russia investigation (which is the common name for what was originally referred to by agents as Crossfire Hurricane). This can end up confusing people into thinking that they were two different investigations, and thus Wikipedia would be engaged in creating/furthering a fringe conspiracy theory. We shouldn't do that.
Create a new hook which focuses on the code-name, without getting into anything about the relation of the code-name to the investigation, as that is an unresolved discussion on the article's talk page.
This makes me think the article is now only two steps away from an AfD. Before it was three steps. I haven't done that yet because I'm hoping it can turn into a good article which collects into one place all the information about the Russia investigation which is spread around in different articles. If that doesn't happen, then the article has no right to exist. -- BullRangifer (talk) 03:27, 8 May 2019 (UTC)
Might as well just have a little fun with it:
  • ALT3: ... that the Mueller Report was born in a crossfire hurricane? (Hope it's alll ... riiiiight ... nooow) Daniel Case (talk) 21:39, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
    Oh yes. Very nice. starship.paint (talk) 13:00, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
    Yay, baby, yay! — JFG talk 21:48, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
    Still, for exactitude, we should say ALT4 …that the Mueller probe was born in a crossfire hurricane? — JFG talk 21:50, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
    Source: NPR Comey was leading the Justice Department's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and potential connections between Russia and the Trump campaign. Mueller is now leading that investigation New York Times Within hours of opening an investigation into the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia in the summer of 2016 [...] at the time, a small group of F.B.I. officials knew it by its code name: Crossfire Hurricane. starship.paint (talk) 01:22, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
    Oh yes to ALT4. Sorry Daniel! starship.paint (talk) 00:10, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Please post on my talk page if you review this, or need my response. Also, note: Page has been moved to Crossfire Hurricane (FBI investigation). starship.paint (talk) 13:09, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

What is Democracy?

  • ... that The Allegory of Good and Bad Government is a discussion point in What Is Democracy?? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that What Is Democracy? interviews people from barbers to philosophers? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Converted from a redirect by StudiesWorld (talk). Self-nominated at 20:58, 3 May 2019 (UTC).

  • I should note that this was my first DYK nom for QPQ review. PublicWorld (talk) 18:04, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Will review soon. – Teratix 04:56, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new enough and long enough, neutral, and cites reliable sources inline (excepting sentences previously sourced to IMDb, which will need to be replaced with better citations). No copyright problems Earwig or I could detect. No QPQ required and the hook is within 200 characters.
  • However, the hooks aren't quite up to standard. ALT0 is not terribly interesting to a general audience, even if they know what The Allegory of Good and Bad Government is. It's an unsurprising statement of fact. ALT1 is far better but still has some problems. Firstly, the documentary features a barber (singular), not many. Secondly, it's not surprising a documentary on the definition of democracy would feature interviews with philosophers (experts, after all, at defining these broad terms), but The New Yorker mentions trauma surgeons, a poet, and refugees as subjects, all of which would be much more interesting to include in the hook. Secondly, a documentary cannot interview a person; it should read something like "In documentary X, John Doe interviews ..."
  • This isn't strictly in the DYK criteria, but the article should have a reception section; it's a basic component of film articles. Also, there's no need to provide inline citations for the summary, as the work itself is implied to be cited. – Teratix 13:55, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Teratix, Thanks for the feedback. The reason that I included inline citations for the summary is that I saw the film at a screening and therefore couldn't refer to it while writing the summary, so I primarily relied on sources. Should I remove the inline citations? Looking at other Reception sections, they seem to focus on box office statistics. However, I can't find those for this film. Would it be acceptable to only discuss its award nominations and media reviews? Here's a rephrasing:
Although I will note, that I like the barber's inclusion. StudiesWorld (talk) 14:12, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
I realized that I didn't address your other concern:
  • It is fine to include a reception section discussing reviews and awards even if you can't find box office statistics. The hook still reads slightly awkwardly because "democracy" appears twice. Maybe rephrase or replace the title with "a 2019 documentary" or similar? – Teratix 12:51, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Pamela Nadell

Created by Cawhee (talk). Self-nominated at 15:22, 9 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, long enough, neutral, and mostly referenced. Hooks are interesting and supported by supplied sources. QPQ not required for new nominator, no copyvio detected. However, the article needs more references. Multiple paragraphs in "Life and education" and "Role in public life" sections lack sources. -Zanhe (talk) 00:38, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 4[edit]


  • ... that Agadzagadza the trickster lizard is blamed as the cause of death in Bura mythology?
    • ALT1:... that Agadzagadza is a mythological trickster from Uganda who is responsible for bringing death to humankind?
      • ALT2:... that Agadzagadza is a mythological trickster from Nigeria who is responsible for bringing death to humankind?
        • ALT3:... that Agadzagadza the trickster lizard is blamed as the cause of death in Nigerian mythology?
  • Reviewed: I think I'm exempt from review, but please let me know if this isn't the case!

Created by You've got Koalatee (talk). Nominated by Gardneca (talk) at 06:34, 10 May 2019 (UTC).


Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - ALT1 fails as the article doesn't seem to mention Uganda. An issue with the primary hook is the reference to the "Bura". This isn't linked in the hook or article. Possible links include Bura people (which redirects to Kilba people) or Bura language (aka Bura/Pabir). I reckon we need to clarify this and the exact source which is supporting it.
This is my fault, I meant Nigeria not Uganda! Whoops. Linking to Bura people should work. Gardneca (talk) 17:29, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg It's not clear to me whether the word Agadzagadza is the Bura/Pabir name for a lizard or whether it's the proper name of this particular trickster. I suppose it's a bit of both like Coyote.

I think you're right Gardneca (talk) 17:36, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Shalor (Wiki Ed) Andrew Davidson I'd like to continue with this but since I'm new to the process I'm not sure what the next step should be. I responded to the issues and made changes, so please advise as to how to proceed. Thanks! Gardneca (talk) 07:49, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
  • I'll take another look. More anon. Andrew D. (talk) 09:13, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Antonia Bolingbroke-Kent

Antonia Bolingbroke-Kent
Antonia Bolingbroke-Kent
  • ... that Antonia Bolingbroke-Kent (pictured) set a Guinness World Record with "Ting Tong"? Source: Not very many months later the pair of us were thundering across China’s Gobi desert in Ting Tong, our shockingly pink three-wheeled steed, heading in the general direction of England. In 98 days of tukking we covered 12,783 miles, two continents and 12 countries and survived an earthquake, several landslides and the odd lascivious Russian. We also set the Guinness World Record for the Longest Ever Journey by Auto-Rickshaw Source

Created by Roxedl (talk). Self-nominated at 09:04, 7 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg There's a few issues here that would need to be addressed. The prose needs at least an extra 350 characters to make this long enough for DYK. One paragraph is mostly uncited, and that includes the mention of "Ting Tong" and the World Record. Most of the article is sourced to the subject's blog or book. I'm sure that what she writes is true, but claims like these need some reliable third-party sourcing, ideally perhaps something official from Guinness itself. The image would probably benefit from cropping but is perhaps misleading with the hook as it suggests the vehicle is Ting Tong, which it isn't. Spokoyni (talk) 21:11, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
In the meantime I did some additions and a ref for the record. Unfortunately I did not find any ref from Guinness, and the record must have been broken again shortly afterwardsby the actual record holder, a bit strange, I agree. Roxedl (talk) 15:59, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
It wouldn't necessarily need to be from Guinness, but a statement like that really needs to be supported by a third party RS. Similarly the article is still too small, and large parts are unsourced, including the hook fact. And the article still leans too heavily on the subject's own blog and books to satisfy policies (I notice there has also been an issue with an COI editor). This is still some way from being acceptable for DYK - do you think you will be able to bring it in line? Spokoyni (talk) 23:05, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
I added some more points. I assume RS means also BBC. Indeed I already doubted the Guinness world record, as – at least – another, the actual world record must have come in shortly afterwards and there are no more RS stating this (if not quite obviously from the lemma itself, the sum raised for Mind also varies from 37.000 GBP – BBC – to 60.000 GBP – RGS). The Guinness website in the past (in the Wayback Machine) does not help either. I picked some points from the COI editor, and there the mention "recipient of the 2019 Neville Shulman Challenge Award" puzzled me again, as this might be awarded in November …). The article has actually 5435 bytes, counting only the words in my local editor it is 2600 (sorry, I was absolutely unaware of this big difference) – the limit is 3500, right? Roxedl (talk) 12:31, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Besides the length problem, is there the possibility to change the DYK intro? Sorry, I am new to DYK, sorry for making a bit cumbersome the whole process. Roxedl (talk) 12:35, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 5[edit]

Saadat Ali Khan I

Saadat Ali Khan I
Saadat Ali Khan I
  • ... that Saadat Ali Khan I (pictured) ended the administrative authority of the landlords over their lands in Awadh, India?
  • Reviewed: soon

5x expanded by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 10 May 2019 (UTC).


  • ... that several sultans in Morocco and the Ottoman Empire were deposed by a fatwa? Source: "...several Ottoman and Moroccan sultans were deposed by fatwas" ("Fatwa", in The Princeton Encyclopedia of Islamic Political Thought, 2013, p. 174)
    • ALT1:... that according to some scholars Ayatollah Khomeini's proclamation condemning Salman Rushdie to death was not a fatwa? Source: "...Ayatollah Khomeini (1902–89) issued a statement calling for the execution of author Salman Rushdie for insulting Islam in his novel The Satanic Verses. Although not strictly a fatwa, this death sentence was quickly treated as such" ("Fatwa", in The Princeton Encyclopedia of Islamic Political Thought, 2013, p. 174); "There are some views that deny that this actually was a fatwa, as it did not follow the classical criteria of form or function for a fatwa." (Vikør, Knut S. (2005). Between God and the Sultan: A History of Islamic Law. Oxford University Press, p. 142)
  • Reviewed: Exempt from QPQ - 1 DYK credit so far.

Improved to Good Article status by Eperoton (talk). Self-nominated at 23:15, 6 May 2019 (UTC).

Article is well sourced, and hooks are reasonably interesting. They do suggest that the reader knows what a fatwa is, before reading the article, however. QPQ not required. Hooks are cited. No copyvio. See below for more comments. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 14:48, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

  • Definitely newly promoted enough and long enough. An Earwig check is a liiiiitle iffy. Specifically, "allowed a female convert to Islam to remain married to her non-Muslim husband, based in part on the existence of European laws and customs which guarantee women the freedom of religion" If the source is somehow freely licensed or public domain, then fine enough. Otherwise that's stretching the limits of fair use a bit too far. Similarly, (though Earwig doesn't pick this bit up) the opening sentence is nearly verbatim from the Princeton Encyclopedia source. The hook, is exactly verbatim from the Princeton Encyclopedia source. So these really need to be quoted or they need to be reworded. Fair use gives us leeway with attributed quotes, but not with unatributed ones. Additional manual spot checks only picked up one additional issue. A large portion of this was either copied to Fatwa from Mufti or visa versa. But I don't see on either article, either in edit summaries or on the talk page where the original is attributed. This is required by the CCBYSA license, and so it needs to be sorted out which is the original and which is the copy, so we can make sure we're in compliance with WP:COPYWITHIN.
User:Lee Vilenski it looks like we had an edit conflict, but you probably want to revisit your approval given the above. GMGtalk 14:46, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── @GreenMeansGo: thanks for the closer review.

  • I have rephrased the passages underlined above.
  • For the definition, it's important to reflect the definitions found in the sources, which are themselves similar to each other. I think this one falls under: "Limited close paraphrasing is also appropriate if there are only a limited number of ways to say the same thing."
  • I was reluctant to paraphrase those few words in the hook because I feared introducing OR. For example, one could replace "deposed" by "forced to abdicate", but it doesn't quite mean the same thing. I feel this is also in the area of "limited number of ways to say the same thing". P.S. On closer inspection, how about this paraphrase of the hook?
  • I contributed all the text in both Fatwa and Mufti, so my edits are the appropriate attribution.

Let me know if you still have concerns. Eperoton (talk) 22:35, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: Do you think we should gloss fatwa as "(nonbinding legal opinion)" or "(nonbinding legal opinion on a point of Islamic law)" in the hooks? Eperoton (talk) 22:57, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Wouldn't an opinion by definition not be legally binding? I think fatwa (legal opinion) makes sense, but It's not really something I understand entirely. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 08:23, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
@Lee Vilenski: Binding legal opinions do exist in some legal systems, but we can use the shorter gloss in the hook for brevity. Eperoton (talk) 22:15, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
  • As far as COPYWITHIN, unless you are positive that there were no other contributors to the duplicated content, i.e., if they were both added at the same time, then we would still need attribution. But that's really too easy, just use a WP:DUMMYEDIT on whatever article was last and say "text from this article copied from that article".
Just to be safe, I'll see if we can't get a second opinion on whether the hook runs into close paraphrasing issues. Maybe I'm over thinking it. Never hurts to ask. GMGtalk 12:15, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
@GreenMeansGo: Thanks, second opinion on the hook would be good. Regarding attribution, the text of both articles either came out of my sandbox or was added by me to both articles at about the same time. I do include attributions in edit summaries when I copy text with other contributors. Eperoton (talk) 22:15, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

No comment on the close paraphrasing issue, but terms like "fatwa" do not need to be defined in hooks, the hook is only there to tweak interest in a topic not to define terms, if we did the latter DYK would end up looking like a dictionary extract. People who don't know what a "fatwa" is and would like to know more get to click on the link, that's the whole point. Gatoclass (talk) 03:29, 15 May 2019 (UTC).

  • I agree that there is some paraphrasing that is too close to the sources. Compare for example "A mufti's understanding of the query commonly depended on their grasp of local customs and colloquial expressions" with "Such comprehension frequently depended on the muftī  's grasp of both local custom and colloquial expression". Nikkimaria (talk) 22:12, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Can you elaborate your concern, Nikkimaria? I can't quite connect it to WP:CLOP. Nothing in this sentence strikes me as a "creative expression", and as I far as I can tell, there's a limited number of ways of expressing this particular assertion without changing the meaning or using unnatural language. This is a general issue that's important for articles on contentious topics, where I tend to edit, so I want to clarify for the future. I normally try to rephrase and rearrange content as much as the subject permits, and alternate statements drawing on different sources, but no so much as to introduce OR. CLOP, and particularly WP:LIMITED, seems to be formulated in a reasonably flexible way that permits this approach. Eperoton (talk) 22:57, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
P.S. So, for example, I now rewrote this as "A mufti's understanding of the query commonly depended on their familiarity with local customs and colloquialisms", which would minimize Earwig-style issues. Does that address your concern, or do you consider any statement that conveys the meaning of a statement from the source with a similar syntactic structure to be a CLOP violation, regardless of whether it can be naturally expressed otherwise? Eperoton (talk) 00:18, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
NOCREATIVE applies to things like "X was born on 1 January 1900", when there truly is no originality in the phrasing; that's not the case with the example I've cited. If you truly cannot find an adequate way to represent such a phrase, you can always quote it. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:50, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Ok, so did the rephrased version address this particular concern? Eperoton (talk) 22:26, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks Nikkimaria and Gatoclass for taking a look. I'll be out of town for the next several weeks, so I'll defer to your judgement. GMGtalk 23:08, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 7[edit]

Articles created/expanded on May 8[edit]


The suit of Spades in Bête follows the unusual ranking used in Écarté
The suit of Spades in Bête follows the unusual ranking used in Écarté
  • ... that the historical French pastime of la Bête, originally called l'Homme, was the first card game to use the concept of bidding?
    Source: "The adoption of bidding into Triomphe occurred during the 17th century to produce a game called at first l'Homme ("Man") and subsequently la Bête (German Labet, Dutch LaBate, English Beast). The former title shows its origin to lie with the 16th-century Spanish game of Hombre (English and French Ombre)." ("Five-Trick Trump Games" at www.parlettgames.uk.)
    • ALT1:... that the historical French card game of la Bête has its origins in 16th-century Spanish Ombre and was created by introducing the concept of bidding into Triomphe?
      Source: as above

Created by Bermicourt (talk). Self-nominated at 06:26, 8 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Comment. I've rewritten the hook to align better with Parlett's actual description. Bermicourt (talk) 19:37, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough, the article is neutral and the image is properly licensed. However, the hook states that the game has its origin in Ombre while the article only states that it may have done so. Another problem is that the sentence "The adoption of bidding into Triomphe occurred during the 17th century to produce a game called at first l'Homme ("Man") and subsequently la Bête (German Labet, Dutch LaBate, English Beast)." appears to be identical to a sentence in this source. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:47, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 9[edit]

Articles created/expanded on May 11[edit]

Peruna (patent medicine)

Created/expanded by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:10, 12 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article meets DYK requirements, hook facts are cited inline, QPQ done. I think the first hook probably appeals best to a general audience. However, ALT0's citation comes not in the sentence that discusses it, but the one after; DYK rules require the actual hook fact sentence to have the relevant inline citation. In addition, Earwigs detects a large overlap with this page, which in turn appears to be a copy of our article on Adams. Both issues need to be addressed before this can be approved. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:20, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia for details. In any case, it feels that the similarities are too close for comfort, especially since I don't think this article is a split from Adams's article; this would have been more acceptable if the latter was the case Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:23, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 12[edit]

Roy J. Snell

Created/expanded by EncyclopediaUpdaticus (talk). Self-nominated at 10:03, 15 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg A few issues need to be fixed here. Readable prose is just under the line at 1,471 characters, it needs a minimum of 1,500. The hook fact sentence is not cited, and the only cite source for that paragraph does not contain the fact. It does appear in another source used in the article, so that would need need citing directly, especially as "the great sum of $6.24" is a direct quote. Another short paragraph is uncited. No apparent copyvio, only trigger is the list of book titles. QPQ-exempt as from what I can tell you have less than five DYK credits. The hook I think passes muster as being broadly interesting. Once the issues are fixed, this should be ready for promotion. Spokoyni (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Ravindra Dave

Created by Nizil Shah (talk) and Coderzombie (talk). Nominated by Nizil Shah (talk) at 06:35, 15 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Nice article. Will opt for Hook 2 but prior to that, the article needs a copy-edit. WBGconverse 09:23, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 13[edit]


  • ... that the first and last programs on radio station KPPC were services of the Pasadena Presbyterian Church? Source — I don't particularly like using pieces like these for hooks, but the 1924 newspaper article cited therein isn't available in newspapers.com, and it's the only source for the church service broadcasts in the summer of 1996, even after the station had ended all other broadcasts.
  • Reviewed: Golden State Killer
  • Comment: This was a new article created as part of the merger of KPPC (defunct) into KROQ-FM. The previous article mostly talked about the FM and had little information about the AM station.

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 04:12, 19 May 2019 (UTC).

  • @Narutolovehinata5: I realize I could have emphasized the continuity/longevity of these broadcasts better... Raymie (tc) 02:49, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
ALT0a: that the first and last programs on radio station KPPC were services of the Pasadena Presbyterian Church, which were aired each Sunday for 72 years?
Sounds a lot better. I'll follow up with the full review soon. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:05, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
@Raymie: I'm still a bit too busy to do the full review, but so far the article looks good. I think the hook could be rephrased somehow though: perhaps it could instead focus on the 72 years part? Another hook suggestion could be that they were planning to close the station but they found out they still had a number of months left in their permit? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:41, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Why do I feel that might be a bit...dry for a DYK? Raymie (tc) 03:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
I don't know about you but personally I think that a station continuing broadcasting after winding down their operations because they found out they still had time left in their permit sounds quirky. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:46, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: ALT1: ... that after going off the air, KPPC radio went on air once a week for six five months to fulfill a contract to broadcast church services? Raymie (tc) 21:11, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
@Raymie: That's a rather confusing hook at first read, how can a station "go off the air" then "go on air" again? At least that's likely what the average reader might think. The hook could probably be rephrased further. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:36, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: ALT1a: ... that after discontinuing normal programming, KPPC radio broadcast once a week for five months to fulfill a contract to broadcast church services? Raymie (tc) 04:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
I think that's more like it. Will try to follow up with the full review by tomorrow. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:55, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
One more suggestion: ALT1a can probably be rephrased because the wording "KPPC radio broadcast" sounds vague, since in this case broadcast can be (mis)interpreted as being a noun instead of a verb. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Good catch, also avoids using the same word twice in the same sentence... Raymie (tc) 18:43, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
ALT1b: ... that after discontinuing normal programming, KPPC radio signed on once a week for five months to fulfill a contract to broadcast church services?

Articles created/expanded on May 15[edit]

Erik Werba

5x expanded by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 20:16, 19 May 2019 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg Unfortunately, I don't think the hook appeals to a broad audience. It requires knowledge of names that are not well-known outside of opera circles, and there's nothing else in the hook that would catch the attention of those unfamiliar with the subject matter. Looking at the article, I regret to say that I have not been able to find anything that could interest a wide audience. If you can find some more information about his life or career that could raise interest, please do it so that a new, more appealing hook can be proposed. But right now, the article and hook are not looking like DYK material. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:59, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Sigh. We could end the hook at "singers". It's quite unusual that a pianist is not known for solo work but for accompaniment. All the rest is extra for those who want to know a little more, the singers have links (and should get known if they aren't already), and how teaching for more than 40 years - which means shaping the playing of more than a generation - isn't interesting, is beyond me. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:42, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Unfortunately, as there appears to be nothing in the article that could be used as a DYK hook that could interest a broad audience, I sadly have to mark this nomination for closure. Not all articles are right for DYK and this appears to be such a case. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:58, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
    So just because you don't know that these singers were about the greatest at their time, and you think shaping two generations of pianists is not something of interest to the general reader, you mark for closure? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
    Repeating: the guidelines ask to be interesting (unusual, worth knowing), which is not the same as appealing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
It's not that, it's simply that the hook doesn't appeal to a general audience, only to those who are familiar with Seefried and Schreier (who are presumably not the majority of our readership), and the hook lacks context that would catch the attention of even someone uninterested in classical music. And yes, interesting is not the same as appealing, but there is significant overlap. Let's put it this way: let's say for example I was an average reader. I do not know who these Seefried or Schreier people are. I have no idea why they are important. I see that there is a hook where this person (Werba) was mentioned as performing with them. Unless I know who Seefried or Schreier are, I would have no idea why this is such a big deal. And that's the problem here: there's nothing in the hook that would allow those who are not "in the know" to appreciate the hook. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:41, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
I am sorry to have another language difficulty. I think you equation of "interesting" with "has to appeal" is your personal interpretation. I say that "interesting" only means "not trivia, not something that everybody knows already". I am tired of it. Do we really have to discuss at WP:DYK once more, or could you perhaps just leave the topic alone? - Today: Ernst Gutstein, just sad that we mention a minor role in a minor old opera, instead of a signature role in a well-known one at a major well-known house + a new role at a notable festival. Why? To insert "castrato" which appeals to those looking for sex-related things. I am ashamed. If Gutstein was still alive, I would have fought harder, but my time on Earth is limited, so I let t go, but still ashamed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:55, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Bandos (horse)

Created by Horsegeek (talk). Self-nominated at 00:22, 16 May 2019 (UTC).

  • I suggest proposing new hooks as I don't think either appeals to a broad audience. The first seems too niche and I think only horse racing fans might appreciate it. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:44, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
It still feels very niche and doesn't appeal to non horse enthusiasts. Can you try proposing something with broader appeal? The reference to a "Queen of Poland" or the number of the horses he foaled might work better. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:35, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5 I tweaked the first hook to say how many horses he foaled, would that work better? Can’t really think of any other interesting facts. Horsegeek(talk) 02:28, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, the first hook is probably the best bet. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:46, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I apologize for the delay in reviewing this as I have been busy with other editing matters. The article meets DYK requirements for newness and length, no close paraphrasing was found, and a QPQ has been done. For the reasons I've mentioned above, I have struck ALT1 and ALT2. I checked the source for ALT0 but it doesn't seem to explicitly mention the hook fact: can you confirm if the source does indeed say what ALT0 says? Finally, some paragraphs and statements in the article lack footnotes. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:39, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Not a problem, Narutolovehinata5. I added the other ref that states the last part, thanks for catching that. Although I'm not too worried about the footnotes. Horsegeek(talk) 21:32, 16 June 2019 (UTC)Horsegeek
@Horsegeek: On DYK however, as much as possible, all paragraphs should have at least one reference, ideally at the end of the paragraph. While as far as I know it's not technically against the rules to have unsourced statements, in the past, nominations have been put on hold or even rejected due to inadequate citations. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:34, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 16[edit]

Mario Pouliot

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 00:42, 19 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Comment, I will be updating the article and this nomination in the next couple days with results from the 2019 Memorial Cup. Flibirigit (talk) 16:16, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
New hook proposed below. Flibirigit (talk) 02:05, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Wächter (Anatol)

Wächter der Goitzsche
Wächter der Goitzsche
  • ... that policeman and artist Anatol created outdoor iron Wächter, a group of figures watching over the environment (pictured), and one as a memorial to police officers killed in the line of duty? Source: several
  • Reviewed: New York City Board of Aldermen
  • Comment: I wrote this article in defiance. The artist recently died, but proceedings to get the article ready for Recent deaths ITN took too long. This is in memory of a great person who deserves more attention. I wish I had an image of the latter sculpture, then I'd happily focus on that one. - I don't know how to handle that in German, Wächter is the same singular and plural, while in English it's Guard(s), plural for the first, singular for the second. - David, I think the image would be better cropped in this size, do you agree? - asap please
  • Gerda:Yes, I agree. I've cropped the image. —David Levy 00:46, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:51, 17 May 2019 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg An interesting article that is new enough, long enough and fully cited. My only minor comment is that the word Landschaft has been translated in the hook as "environment" which these days tends to refer to the abstract notion of the wider world we live in viewed from a 'green' perspective (Umwelt), whereas I think in the article cited it just means the statues are watching over the local countryside. So I'd use "countryside" rather than "environment". That said, I realise the terrain is a former open cast, brown coal mine, so you may tell me there is a green angle. In which case, maybe "local environment" may be clearer to avoid thinking they're watching over environmental concerns in general. HTH. Bermicourt (talk) 14:09, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for looking. I think there's a "green" angle to the statues, at a site which was industrial before and returned to nature. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:30, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
In which case, could we add "local" before environment to make it clear. Bermicourt (talk) 18:38, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that policeman and artist Anatol created outdoor iron Wächter, a group of figures watching over the local environment (pictured), and one as a memorial to police officers killed in the line of duty?
  • ALT1 seems off: "created outdoor iron"? I actually prefer the original hook's wording, but if the word "environment" is too vague then perhaps going with "countryside" may be better than "local environment". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:13, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
    The idea is guarding against negative environmental change:
    ALT2: ... that policeman and artist Anatol created outdoor iron Wächter, a group of figures guarding the local environment (pictured) and one as a memorial to police officers killed in the line of duty?
    Jmar67 (talk) 02:56, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
The "outdoor iron" wording still feels strange to me. Why not "an outdoor group of iron figures"? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:58, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
The Wächter link needs to be preserved as a DYK requirement, does it not? We are talking about two separate outdoor installations, the group pictured here and a single figure elsewhere as a police memorial. See also the article lead, which uses "outdoor iron sculptures". I think the current wording is clear. What would be your full suggestion? Jmar67 (talk) 04:43, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
The wording I had in mind was over 200 characters so it might not have worked out. I don't have much problems with the hook itself or the groupings, it's really the "created outdoor iron" that sounds weird to me. Would "the outdoor iron sculpture series" work instead? It would reflect the wording used in the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:47, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
ALT3: ... that policeman and artist Anatol created the outdoor iron sculpture series Wächter, including a group guarding the environment (pictured) and a memorial to fallen police officers? Jmar67 (talk) 05:26, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
That sounds much better. Letting Gerda decide if she likes it or not. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:46, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the offers. Always learning: can you say "fallen officers"? (Because in German, you could the equivalent of fallen soldiers, but no other "professions".) If yes, then fine. Someone requested "local" before environment. I'm travelling, and have no time to check it all. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:58, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
"Fallen police officers" seems to be a fairly common expression in English, so that's fine. I'd put a comma after series as, grammatically, that seems right. But it's not a 'biggie'. Bermicourt (talk) 12:21, 27 May 2019 (UTC)


No comma (Wächter defines series). Would be different with "an outdoor". Also, removed "local" because I view "environment" as general ("Umwelt") in this case. Jmar67 (talk) 16:49, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 17[edit]

Kyle Garlick

Kyle Garlick
Kyle Garlick
  • Reviewed: IOU

Created by Muboshgu (talk) and Spanneraol (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 18:55, 17 May 2019 (UTC).

QPQ: ????
Overall: Symbol question.svg QPQ still pending, hook reasonable interesting. Let me know once you have reviewed something and I'll pass this DannyS712 (talk) 20:45, 19 May 2019 (UTC)


Nanhaipotamon guangdongense from Zhuhai, Guangdong
Nanhaipotamon guangdongense from Zhuhai, Guangdong

Created by Bubbleleg96 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:08, 19 May 2019 (UTC).

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg The hooks aren't interesting, and the article is too short. QPQ still pending. Approved DannyS712 (talk) 20:34, 19 May 2019 (UTC)

@Bubbleleg96: see review above --DannyS712 (talk) 20:39, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
This is the nominator's first DYK nomination; as they have less than five noms, they are not yet required to do a QPQ. I agree though that the hooks are bland and should not run. I would have suggested a hook here, but at the moment the article is too short. If this can't be expanded in a reasonable amount of time, the nomination will probably have to be marked as failed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:31, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Sorry to contradict, but I think the first hook is very interesting. Who would have expected a new species of crab to be detected in such a tourist hotspot? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:44, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
@Cwmhiraeth: I agree that they are now, but I reviewed Special:Permalink/897861222 --DannyS712 (talk) 05:47, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
OK. The original hooks should have been struck rather than replaced. They are better now. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
@DannyS712: The article now has over 1500 characters of readable prose and I changed the content of the hooks. Bubbleleg96 (talk) 11:45, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
@Bubbleleg96: approved --DannyS712 (talk) 04:17, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Bubbleleg96 how would you feel about this? It gets at the surprise of still making new discoveries of species, plus Macau?
  • ALT2 ... that nearly a third of the known species of this crab (pictured) were discovered in the past ten years, the most recent in 2018 in Macau?
Both points are already sourced within the article. --valereee (talk) 10:35, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm also wondering if we can crop that image a little closer:
Nanhaipotamon guangdongense
Nanhaipotamon guangdongense

--valereee (talk) 10:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

@Valereee: Yeah, I am ok with that. Maybe rephrase it a little so that
  • ALT2b ... that a third of the known species of the genus Nanhaipotamon (pictured) were discovered in the past ten years, the most recent in 2018 in Macau
The reason why I wrote the article and nominated it to DYK was mostly to raise awareness about this group of animals, and I thought the recent discovery in Macau was a interesting hook. People seem to disagree, so it doesn't have to mention Macau for my sake.
Bubbleleg96 (talk) 12:49, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
  • If ALT2b is used, the image doesn't apply, because it's not a picture of the genus per the hook. Yoninah (talk) 13:42, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 18[edit]

Rolf Riehm

  • ... that the oboist and composer Rolf Riehm taught music theory in Frankfurt from 1974 to 2000, and wrote an opera, Sirenen, for a 2014 premiere at the Oper Frankfurt? Source: several
  • Reviewed: Wildlife of Senegal
  • Comment: best on 15 June, his birthday. - I don't want to name the institurion where he taught because it changed name during the long time.

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:40, 24 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Discography and most of the works lack inline citation. RRD (talk) 06:15, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Will do, but just returned from travelling, and at least 2 nominations need me before this one ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:20, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: OK, I would wait. RRD (talk) 06:23, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
RRD, I managed to reduce the compositions to (mostly) what the Academy of the Arts shows, and sourced all recordings. The most recent compositions that are not recorded still lack a ref, but I'm exhausted ;) - more patience needed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
RRD, I added refs now to later works. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:21, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Leslie Leve

  • ... that Leslie Leve found that positive parenting by adoptive parents can reduce children's callous behaviors, which can be inherited from birth parents? Source: "The team found that antisocial behavior in the biological mother predicted CU behaviors in their children who were adopted into homes as infants. This was despite the biological mothers having limited or no contact with the children, indicating that CU behaviors were inherited. However, the team also found that high levels of positive reinforcement by adoptive mothers helped to mitigate CU behaviors in their adopted children." (link)
  • Alt 1: ... that researcher Leslie Leve has found that parents' depression is associated with more behavior problems in their children, unless they have a partner who has strong social support? Source: “for both mothers and fathers, when a parent with depressive symptoms had a partner who was highly satisfied with their social support networks, that parent’s depression was less strongly associated with compromised parenting.” link

Moved to mainspace by Squirrel1847 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 19:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC).

  • This notion that children can inherit a behavior is not supported by evidence, and in the article is supported only by a press release. Abductive (reasoning) 06:12, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
@Abductive: I've changed the hook, which has an outside reference. In addition, within the article, I've added the original study as a reference for the first hook. QuakerSquirrel (talk) 10:32, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Kine Beate Bjørnås

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:18, 22 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Meets length criteria - 1797 characters. Well referenced and written. Not sure of how much general interest it is, but it is about a woman sportsperson and more articles in this area need to be encouraged. Suggesting ALT2, as it indicates she is a woman (English speakers won't recognise that from the name) and having a trail named after her is more indicative of notably than just the fact the she won an event in 2005. The ref checks out. ALT2 sounds more interesting and would get more clicks. This is only my 2nd DYK review, so I will leave it for someone else to comment or approve.Felixkrater (talk) 09:17, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Tarzan of Manisa

Tarzan Heykeli ("the statue of Tarzan"), statue of Ahmet Bedevi in Manisa
Tarzan Heykeli ("the statue of Tarzan"), statue of Ahmet Bedevi in Manisa
  • ... that the Tarzan of Manisa (statue pictured) is considered by some as the first Turkish environmentalist? Source: "Known by some as the “first environmentalist of Turkey,” Bedevi..." ([9])
    • ALT1:... that the Tarzan of Manisa (statue pictured) planted thousands of trees on the Spil Dağı above Manisa, in Turkey? Source: "the environmentalist Ahmet Bedevi, who is legendary for his work in the first half of the last century planting thousands of trees on Mount Spil, or Mount Sipylus in Manisa" ([10])

Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:28, 18 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Comment that image is pretty hard to see at that size. The ducks are nice, but maybe a crop on the statue? --valereee (talk) 22:47, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 19[edit]

Heb Ik Ooit Gezegd

  • ... that an X Factor winner recorded a cover version of the song "Have I Ever Said", which was itself a Dutch-language cover based on the song "Have I Told You Lately"? Udo Mechels X-Factor winner: AllMusic; Udo's cover of Dutch band Clouseau's song "Have I Ever Said"/"Heb Ik Ooit Gezegd": Hung Medien; Clouseau's song is a cover of "Have I Told You Lately" by Van Morrison: Alllmusic; specific statement (in Dutch) that "Heb Ik Ooit Gezegd" is a cover of the Van Morrison song: Radio2
    • ALT1:... that the song " Have I Ever Said "—a Dutch-language cover version based on the song "Have I Told You Lately"—was itself made into a cover version by an X Factor winner?
  • Comment: There is a request to merge the article, but I wanted to place this request in case the merge request fails.

Created by Big universe (talk). Self-nominated at 04:50, 26 May 2019 (UTC).

The California Field Atlas, Obi Kaufmann

Improved to Good Article status by Brandt Luke Zorn (talk). Self-nominated at 22:38, 23 May 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 20[edit]

Jew with a coin, Joanna Tokarska-Bakir, "Never Again" Association, Rafał Pankowski

Jew with a coin figurines on sale in Polańczyk
Jew with a coin figurines on sale in Polańczyk
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2019–20 RFU Championship
  • Comment: I have a bunch of articles here, but the really-really hooky and cool one is Jew with a coin. Reviewer - you have an important job - I've listed many possible hooks - please convey your opinions on which hook (or hooks) are the hookiest (or in this case, convey a WTF moment). If we have an additional article in the hook (other than Jew with a coin) that's a bonus - but the main-main thing I want here is hookiness.

Created by Icewhiz (talk), Piotrus (talk), (talk), Drmies (talk), E.M.Gregory (talk), MyMoloboaccount (talk), Kayteigh (talk), Xx236 (talk), Jpbowen (talk), and Slatersteven (talk). Nominated by Icewhiz (talk) at 08:59, 24 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date, size, copyvio spotcheck, QCQ ok. Concern #1: the article is not stable yet, a few days may be needed for some tug of wars/reverts/etc. do die down; there's also a NPOV template at the top of the article, this needs to be removed and not challenged for the DYK to be stable for main page. (Ping me if you think this has happened and I'll rereview this). Concern #2. Hooks are interesting, but 1) first one - I don't think qualifier "many" is correct, per my comment on nom's talk page. 2) ok, but I'd add 'some', I don't think it's a custom for majority of them 3) ok but just one minor event, a bit boring 4) I like it, through perhaps a bit too technical for a casual reader 4) my favorite 5) interesting, but I'd rather go with 4 that attribute a single scholar opinion that may not be universally shared. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:16, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Note you are co-named as an author - you should not be reviewing. These are in 18% of around 10 million homes = many. If you have a better word - go ahead and suggest. There is a NPOV tag only on Pankowski, which is only relevant for one hook (ALT2) - the others should be good.Icewhiz (talk) 12:42, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Fair enough. I'll just note that neither Pankowski nor the Association seem to be linked in the hook, they probably should have stand-alone and separate DYK nominations and hooks. For what's it worth, I think the 'jew with the coin' article is neutral right now, but whether it is stable, I am unsure. The next reviewer will check on that anyway. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:35, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svgObject-Joannas Tokarska-Bakirs claims have been widely rejected by others up to the point of her being openly ridiculed by other scholars in this field[11]. Right now her claims are shown as valid and serious.Just one of the issues the article has.MyMoloboaccount (talk) 11:03, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
It is attributed analysis - and I don't quite see where the Polish language journal states that. Please note that BLPTALK applies vs. the chair of the ethnic and national relations study at the Polish Academy of Sciences's Institute of Slavic Studies who is a well respected and widely cited authority in the field.Icewhiz (talk) 11:34, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Actually Tokarska herself mentions this and calls Sorbona professor Ludwik Stomma who ridiculed her "ancient lizard"(best translation to her insult "praszczur" I could think of)and mastodont[12]</ref>
All the source you have brought shows is that Stomma, who per plwiki is also a columnist in Hustler magazine, disagreed with Tokarska-Bakir - a chair ethnic and national relations study. Unsurprisingly, Tokarska-Bakir's analysis continues to be quoted and cited - usually without Stomma.Icewhiz (talk) 12:21, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Stomma is reliable,and actually seems to have both longer and higher scholar status that Tokarska.Worked at University of Warsaw,Krakow Jagiellonian University, Institute of Arts PAN, University of Torun, published over 14 books on ethnology and worked at Sorbonna University.Has dozens of dozens of scholarly articles.MyMoloboaccount (talk) 12:28, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

TAI Aksungur

  • ... that the unmanned aerial vehicle TAI Aksungur is able to carry up to 750 kg (1,650 lb) payload, and can be operated beyond-visual-range by SATCOM? Source: "... the air vehicle with a maximum take-off weight (MTOW) "in excess" of 3,000 kg and a payload capacity of 750 kg." [13], "SATCOM ile Görüş Hattı Ötesi Operasyon esnekliği (opsiyonel" ‹See Tfd›(in Turkish) [14]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 10:21, 22 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Not sure if I'll be able to give this a full review, but for now I'll leave a comment about the hook. I don't think it right now appeals to a broad audience since it seems to rely too much on technical words such as SATCOM. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks. The reason why I used the term "SATCOM" was to draw reader's attention. Anyway, does your mind change if I replace "SATCOM" with "communications satellite" in the hook? CeeGee 05:00, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm afraid not. To a reader who is not interested in aviation or military stuff, the hook has a big "so what?" factor. The typical reader probably won't appreciate how or why a UAV can carry that amount of load, it requires knowledge about UAVs and their context as a whole. A new direction is probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:54, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Hmm! You must have known what the broad reader is thinking. Maybe someone can suggest a hook in the direction of your thinking. Besides, must I call you repearedly to get an answer from you? CeeGee 03:56, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
I read the DYK discussions I've participated in on an almost hourly basis, so I generally don't need to be pinged unless it's important. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:02, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
  • You may not categorize DYK noms into important or not important. If you start a review you better progress in due time please. The noninator, in this case me, cannot know that you have alread read the response to your input. CeeGee 18:43, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
In any case, a new hook is still probably needed here. The original hook remains too technical. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:31, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Elongatoolithus, Nanhsiungoolithus

5x expanded by Ashorocetus (talk). Self-nominated at 05:35, 20 May 2019 (UTC).

Vera Blagojević

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:37, 20 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg While the hook is okay, I wonder if something better can be proposed here: isn't it a given that activists would organize events such as strikes? The mention of her posthumously winning an award might have more potential as a hook I think. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:19, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Daksha Pattani

  • ... that Gujarati writer Daksha Pattani published six books on Mahatma Gandhi? Source: Pathak, Ajay (May 2019). Doshi, Deepak (ed.). "સ્વ. દક્ષાબહેન વિજયશંકર પટ્ટણી" [Late Dakshabahen Vijayshankar Pattani]. Navneet Samarpan (in Gujarati). Mumbai: P. V. Shankarankutti, Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan. 40 (1): 113–115. ISSN 2455-4162
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Nizil Shah (talk). Self-nominated at 14:43, 20 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article was moved from draftspace on 20 May, is over the required prose size and has no copyvio concerns. The hook has an inline citation although, as it is a foreign language source, it is AGF. Just waiting on a QPQ review to finish this one. Kosack (talk) 05:57, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
  • ☒N Barely 200 characters above the minimal requirements of 1500 and it's a stub, for all practical purposes. The hook is entirely non-interesting.
  • I am also doubtful about the notability of the subject. the volumes of Gujarati Sahityano Itihas contains bioraphies of hundreds of writers and is more of a catalog. It does not contribute to automatic-notability. WBGconverse 09:20, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Winged Blades of Godric:, Sorry for late reply. I missed the watchlist change. The article is 200 characters above "minimal requirement" so it should be a concern according to the DYK rules. For notability, Gujarati Sahityano Itihas (lit. History of Gujarati Literature) contains biographies of only selected writers of a period/era, not "hundreds of writers" and is not "a catalog" as you claimed. The book is carefully written and edited by scholars of Gujarati literature and is published by Gujarati Sahitya Parishad, a literary organisation. Have you checked the source book before claiming it contains "biographies of hundreds of writers"? I doubt. If you have not checked the book, you should not claim it. Due to lack of online sources, I have to rely on offline sources. Pattani was a respected scholar on Gandhi. For hook, it may not seem interesting to you but reviewer @Kosack: found it interesting enough. I am open to ALT hook if Kosack ask for it. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 07:45, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
It's obviously not a catalog (hyperbole) but I stand by my claim of hundreds; extrapolating from the volumes I've read. I don't believe that SYSTEMICBIAS affects someone who was producing works as late as 2000 and reject that she was a highly esteemed scholar. No book reviews, no obituaries ... WBGconverse 08:00, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
I thought the idea of an author publishing six books and dedicating a considerable portion of their career to a single person was relatively interesting, I'd never heard of anything similar I don't believe. If WBG does find it uninteresting, would there be any alternative hooks available perhaps? If the notability of the subject is in question, why not take it to AfD? Kosack (talk) 08:06, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Kosack, the notability is not in question but the belief that every article which meets the objective criterion of DYK is automatically main-page stuff, is.
You might wish to note Ramachandra Guha, who has written:- Gandhi Before India, Gandhi: The Years That Changed the World and India After Gandhi. Yet another one about Gandhi's relevance in today's world, is in the making. Manikonda Chalapathi Rau has published a lot of works about Jawaharlal Nehru. WBGconverse 16:02, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
That's fine, if I'm mistaken about the interest then maybe we can look for something more interesting. Nizil Shah would there be any alternative hooks? Kosack (talk) 16:33, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
Interestingly, she had published her entire PhD thesis as those 6 books or so does Nizil claim -- which is quite weird. Nizil, I am not very comfortable in Gujarati but is "દક્ષા (વિજયશંકર) પટ્ટણી" a correct translation of the subject's name? On a side-note, what's this?WBGconverse 09:40, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@Winged Blades of Godric:, she did PhD on Gandhi and each chapter of her thesis was published as a book with more information. Each chapter/book discusses one aspect of Gandhi and his philosophy. Gujarati is my native language and દક્ષા (વિજયશંકર) પટ્ટણી is correctly translated as Daksha (Vijayshankar) Pattani. That Nireekshak pdf file is a biweekly published in Gujarati since 1968. There is an obituary of Pattani written by Ajay Pathak on p. 13-14. It can be a helpful reference. I have also found another obituary published in Kumar (magazine) which I will be adding soon. -Nizil (talk) 12:21, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Both (Nirikshak and Kumar) refs are added now with some new info. @Kosack: -Nizil (talk) 13:53, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
Just a drive-by comment, but I'm skeptical of ALT1 working out considering we don't even have an article on the award. Unless of course you could make an article on the award and make this a double hook. ALT2 is not a spectacular hook but it might be the best bet at this point, if only because readers might be curious exactly what "Gandhian philosophy" is. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:32, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Obligation to Negotiate Access to the Pacific Ocean

  • ... that regarding Bolivia v. Chile, Pope Francis said, "Dialogue is indispensable. Instead of raising walls, we need to be building bridges."? Source: ""I'm thinking about the sea here," said the pope, referring to the ongoing dispute between the two countries which is set to be ruled upon by the International Court of Justice by the end of the year. "Dialogue is indispensable. Instead of raising walls, we need to be building bridges."" [15]
    • ALT1:... that Catholic bishops in Chile and Bolivia asked their congregants to accept the decision in Bolivia v. Chile? Source: "In an indication of the significance of the decision for both counties, Catholic bishops in Bolivia and Chile on Sunday called on their congregations to accept the court’s ruling “with faith, peace and good sense.”" [16]
    • ALT2:... that Bolivians gathered in public spaces across the country to watch the decision in Bolivia v. Chile be read out on large screens? "Back at home, people waved blue flags that symbolize the country’s demand for access to the ocean, as they watched the ruling on giant screens in squares and public areas." [17]
  • Reviewed: 5th DYK nom, QPQ not needed

Created/expanded by StudiesWorld (talk). Self-nominated at 11:25, 20 May 2019 (UTC).

Anne Croy

Created by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:15, 20 May 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 21[edit]

Charles Stapley

  • ... that Charles Stapley played 26 different roles in The Adventures of Robin Hood? Source: "Stapley suddenly found himself in demand on television, taking a different role every week in all 26 episodes of The Adventures of Robin Hood (1955-56)" ([18])
    • ALT1:... that ...?

Created by Edwardx (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 22:52, 29 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article meets DYK article requirements, no close paraphrasing found, hook cited inline and verified. @Philafrenzy: Good to go once a QPQ has been done. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:24, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Asplenium fontanum

  • ... that fountain spleenwort does not grow in Amersham churchyard, near a waterfall in northern England or on the castle walls at Alnwick? Source: "Supposed to be now extinct in England; it was once found on Amersham Church ... at a waterfall in either Northumberland or Westmoreland ... once grew on Alnwick Castle; but if so, it is no longer found there."

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 27 May 2019 (UTC).

Eddie Gallagher (soldier)

  • Reviewed: Lawrence Minard
  • Comment: ALT1 is the same but shorter, although it misses one interesting fact. Note: Considering the accusations at hand, I'd like to avoid a "via Twitter" hook, suggesting it was due to Fox & Friends lobbying, or anything that's too playful. Best keep this entry serious.

Created by SnowFire (talk). Self-nominated at 04:34, 27 May 2019 (UTC).

Maddie Shevlin

  • Reviewed: tbd

Created by Teratix (talk). Self-nominated at 04:22, 26 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Newly created article, cited and interesting hook, article over 1500 characters and follows all guidelines. However QPQ is pending. RRD (talk) 13:38, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Rolando López Salinas

  • ... that suspected drug lord Rolando López Salinas survived two assassination attempts? Source: [Spanish]: "Recuerda que en 1999, cuando Lazcano se acababa de incorporar al cártel del Golfo, Cárdenas citó a Guzmán Decenas en una casa de seguridad en Reynosa, Tamaulipas, y le pidió juntar a 20 pistoleros para asesinar a Rolando López Salinas, El Roly, quien era amigo de Osiel." [English]: "Remember that in 1999, when Lazcano had just joined the Gulf cartel, Cárdenas summoned Guzmán Decena in a security house in Reynosa, Tamaulipas, and asked him to join 20 gunmen to assassinate Rolando López Salinas, El Roly, who was friend of Osiel." (Source 1) Source: [Spanish]: Uno de ellos eran Rolando López Salinas, el Rolis, quien habría sufrido un atentado el 22 de septiembre de 2000 en Miguel Alemán, del cual salió malherido su chofer Héctor Arias." / [English]: "One of them was Rolando López Salinas, the Rolis, who suffered an attack on September 22, 2000 in Miguel Alemán, from which his driver Hector Arias was injured." (Source 2)

Moved to mainspace by MX (talk). Self-nominated at 18:43, 21 May 2019 (UTC).

  • I'm currently too busy to review this, but the hook needs work. Mainly because it doesn't make it clear who this Salinas person is. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:26, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5 Thanks for the comment. How does it look now? I originally omitted his description b/c of BLP violation concerns, but Rolando is dead so I guess it wouldn’t apply. MX () 01:19, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Now the problem is that it's not exactly a high catching hook anymore: it's kind of a given that there would be regular threats to the lives of drug lords (as Pablo Escobar can probably attest to). We probably need a new hook. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Hopefully one of the alt hooks listed below helps. Thanks for the advice. MX () 18:16, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I think all the new hooks are better, with ALT1 and ALT3 being the most eye-catching. I'll leave the reviewing to another reviewer, though I'm open to picking this up if this remains stuck for a while or if my schedule opens up. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:34, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Karen Saywitz

Moved to mainspace by QuakerQuaker765 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 14:02, 21 May 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 22[edit]

Section 124A of the Indian Penal Code

  • ... that during 2019 election campaign, Indian National Congress promised to abolish the sedition law, but had charged 9,000 people in one instance while in power? Source 1: "In its manifesto released on Tuesday, Congress has promised to omit the Indian Penal Code Section 124A.", Source 2: "In 2012 and 2013, an astonishing number of 23,000 men and women who protested against a nuclear power plant in Tamil Nadu were held for "waging war against the state" and sedition - 9,000 of them for sedition alone."

Created by Dharmadhyaksha (talk) and Rsrikanth05 (talk). Nominated by Dharmadhyaksha (talk) at 07:37, 29 May 2019 (UTC).

Die wundersame Schustersfrau

Udo Zimmermann in 2013
Udo Zimmermann in 2013

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 06:35, 29 May 2019 (UTC).

Paula R. Pietromonaco

  • ... that Paula R. Pietromonaco found that attachment styles affect how people think and behave during conflict? Source: Nauert, PhD, Rick (2012-08-03). "Close Relationships Influence Health, Happiness". PsychCentral. Retrieved 2019-05-23.

Created by Squirrel1847 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 14:16, 23 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Ugh. I misspelled her name for the nomination. It's Pietromonaco not Pietromanco. Not sure how to change the nomination page name so leaving it for now. QuakerSquirrel (talk) 16:12, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Karin Takahashi (voice actress)

  • ... that voice actress Karin Takahashi originally aspired to become a lawyer? Source: [20] ("一度、小学生の時に弁護士になりたいと思っていたんですけど、高学年になってから、弱い人を守ることだけが弁護士の仕事じゃないということを知って、自分が思っているのと違ったかなと。")
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Joe Kryczka (using Fred Page for QPQ purposes)
  • Comment: One of the sources used for citing the date of birth is a permanent dead link (I had copied it from her Japanese article, which was the basis for most of the biography section); however I added an alternate citation if in case the dead reference isn't adequate enough. Additional hook suggestions are welcome, although sources are a bit thin on her personal life.

Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:13, 22 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Large portions of the article are not cited, and this is a problem for an article that would appear on the main page. There are also odd sentences like this one (On her debut stage she unfortunately had hay fever and had to cover her right eye with an eye patch). "Unfortunately" is a very weird word choice as I doubt anyone has "fortunately" contracted hay fever. There are also two tags attached to the top of the page (This article needs additional citations for verification and This article may require copy editing for grammar, style, cohesion, tone, or spelling.). With all of this in mind, the article requires a substantial amount of work before it could be featured on the main page as a DYK. Aoba47 (talk) 20:52, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Aoba47: Uh, I think you checked the wrong article. The article that's for review is Karin Takahashi (voice actress), not Karin Takahashi. To be fair, it was my mistake since I had accidentally linked to the wrong article in the hook. I've fixed the link now. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 20:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for the correction. I was only going by the link presented in the hook, and like you said, you linked the incorrect article here. Aoba47 (talk) 20:59, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Aoba47: So uh are you still considering reviewing this? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
I will leave this for another reviewer. The unnecessary “uh” and “so uh” comments turned me off this and I would prefer not to engage further. Aoba47 (talk) 21:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
I see. Well thank you for giving this consideration, in any case. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:37, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Murder of Senicha Lessman

  • ... that before murdering his girlfriend, Vern Jason Mouelle searched for the phrase "How much time does it take to knock someone out with a rear naked choke" on his phone? Source: [21]

Created by FiredanceThroughTheNight (talk). Self-nominated at 00:44, 23 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Length is long enough (2271 characters readable prose size), both hooks are in the article, does not need a QPQ (only has 1 DYK credit). Everything seems to be sourced, however, I have not done a full check. Article should be eligible. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 19:48, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Luys i Luso

Created by Dreamy Jazz (talk). Self-nominated at 18:07, 23 May 2019 (UTC).

  • I have also struck the first 3, as I feel the ones about God will get the page more pageviews, as it leaves more details out (and so leaving viewers wanting more). If a reviewer feels that the hooks about God are not good enough, then I will be open to the idea about using the striked ones. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me | my contributions 18:35, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 23[edit]

Alfred Vökt

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 06:13, 30 May 2019 (UTC).

  • I'm going to be frank here, the current hook has too much information. It requires knowledge of certain opera names and opera titles. And a hook about an opera actor playing a role is, to paraphrase another editor, a "so what?" hook. The part about him actually having a Ph.D in law is actually a lot more interesting and we should probably focus on that instead.
ALT1 ... that Swiss tenor Alfred Vökt had a Ph.D. in law?
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:33, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, I object. "Tenor" alone is way too vague. Who cares if he was Swiss, when his whole career was in Germany? It says a lot about a singer that he sares to tackle a new work, and that he is good enough to be chosen for the task. It's an opera with an interesting (3 versions) history, - that's what I want to display, not only the person and what he studied but never practised, as far as we know. Imagine it was about your father, please. Compromise:
ALT2: ... that the tenor Alfred Vökt, who had a Ph.D. in law, performed in the premiere of Henze's Il re cervo? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:51, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Gerda, if you want to highlight that the opera has an interesting 3 versions history, they say that in the hook. Don't assume that non-musician readers are going to know or care about your allusion. Yoninah (talk) 14:21, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
  • You misunderstood me, sorry. There was a complaint that the hook had too much information. The performance history of the opera has nothing to do with the singer, - I don't recall if he also sang in the performance of the third version. (If I find he didm that miht be worth mentioning. - Other than the German Wikipedia, we can have extra links in hooks, - so they can go to something worth knowing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Bramble Cay Melomys

Improved to Good Article status by The lorax (talk). Self-nominated at 21:17, 23 May 2019 (UTC).

  • I said this at the talk page, where you chose to ignore me; I'll say it again here. Nominating an article for GAN or DYK without pinging the other major contributors to the page or adding them as conominators is thoroughly discourteous. This is especially true when you did not do anything to actually fix issues raised during a GA review; I was the one to get it through the GA process. Please make the relevant fixes now. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:52, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Swedish Levant Company

Moved to mainspace by Bkissin (talk). Nominated by MJL (talk) at 02:04, 24 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I'll do a full review soon, but right now I have concerns about both hooks: they're not exactly eye-catching or hooky. Like, instead of saying that the creation of the company was controversial, it might be a good idea to include the context for that in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:45, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
I also have to note that, while you have done a QPQ, as you have less than five DYK nominations, you are not required to do a QPQ (you can still do one of course if you want, it's just optional right now). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:49, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
I figured it'd be the polite thing to do Face-smile.svgMJLTalk 02:52, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
@Valereee and Narutolovehinata5: Oh my gosh I love that one!!! Only correction would be to change the merchants to several Swedish merchants because according to the source the merchant elite supported the English model.MJLTalk 16:08, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
ALT2a is really good. I have however seen some typos in the article, for example "At major issue was" instead of "a major issue was". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:11, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, I've done a quick copyedit --valereee (talk) 17:47, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 24[edit]

The Unsafe Asylum

  • ... that the stories in the book The Unsafe Asylum were inspired by the author's, Anirudh Kala, personal experiences from his visits to mental health institutions in Pakistan, and also patients who visited his clinic in India? Source: [30] (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Moved to mainspace by Satdeep Gill (talk). Self-nominated at 14:25, 31 May 2019 (UTC).

Hermin Esser

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Grimes2 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 08:38, 31 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright or plagiarism issues. A QPQ has been done. The "almost all" in the hook is the only problem. If you can find a source that states that, or lists every Wagner tenor role, it would be fine, but if you are relying on your own knowledge of tenor roles in Wagner's operas, then its original research, and won't do. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:55, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
  • I wouldn't know where to find such a source, Wagner wasn't Rossini, the number of his stage works is small, and all have articles. We could go and count the roles and say how many he sang in Bayreuth (14)? Or say that he performed both David and Stolzing in Meistersinger? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:29, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Korean National Youth Association

  • ... that the Korean National Youth Association was an anti-communist right-wing group founded in 1946 under the catchphrase "National Branch, National Geography"? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that the Korean National Youth Association set up a training center in 1946 with the support of the U.S. government? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Sunghokyoung (talk) and 95leegy (talk). Nominated by (talk) at 07:20, 27 May 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 25[edit]

Mount Oku rat, Mittendorf's striped grass mouse

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:20, 30 May 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 26[edit]

Alexandra Phillips (Green politician), Alexandra Phillips (Brexit Party politician)

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 23:12, 2 June 2019 (UTC).

NASA Astronaut Group 4

Group 4 astronauts
Group 4 astronauts
  • ... that in June 1965, NASA announced the selection of six scientists (five pictured) as astronauts? Source: ""Scientist-Astronauts Join NASA Space Program"" ([34])

5x expanded by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:59, 26 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The current hook is very bland, as I believe that most readers tend to associate astronauts with science anyway, so many astronauts being scientists is pretty much a given. Can something better be proposed here? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:25, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
Did you know that NASA Astronaut Group 4, selected in 1965 for the Apollo Moon program, was the first chosen primarily on the basis of scientific experience?
  • Perhaps something like (it needs reworded)
    ... that in June 1965, NASA selected six scientists (five pictured) by waiving the requirement to be a pilot? Source: ""Scientist-Astronauts Join NASA Space Program""
  • Something about it being the first non-pilots to be selected might spice it up a bit. I do not like my wording, but perhaps someone can craft it a little better. Kees08 (Talk) 01:41, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Did you know that NASA Astronaut Group 4, selected in 1965 for the Apollo Moon program, was the first recruited primarily on the basis of scientific experience? --Neopeius (talk) 02:26, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Comment NASA selected a second group of scientist-astronauts in 1967, after which the idea was dropped. Starting in 1978, astronauts other than pilots were selected under the designation of mission specialist; but they are not necessarily or even usually scientists. Consider the latest lot for example. (And note that four are test pilots.) Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:22, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Putting Neopeius's suggestion below to fit DYK standards:
ALT ... that NASA Astronaut Group 4, selected in 1965 for the Apollo program, was the first recruited primarily on the basis of scientific experience?
Just waiting for Hawkeye's response, after which a full review will be done. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:34, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
It's fine with me if its fine with you. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:55, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Tomb of Isa Khan

Tomb of Isa Khan
Tomb of Isa Khan

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 17:41, 26 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Unfortunately, I've had to strike the original hook as it's not exactly interesting to a broad audience: I don't think the Tomb of Sikandar Lodi is a household name, and I think those unfamiliar with it will be able to appreciate the hook. If possible, try proposing something that appeals even to those unfamiliar with Indian history. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:23, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that the inscription at the Tomb of Isa Khan claims that the tomb is an "asylum of peace"?
Of the two hooks, ALT2 probably is best for the history buffs, but ALT1 is the one that might catch the attention of most readers. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:06, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Whichever you feel good. RRD (talk) 15:08, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
ALT 2, please. WBGconverse 15:27, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 27[edit]

Al-Muhallab ibn Abi Sufra

  • ... that al-Muhallab ibn Abi Sufra is credited with introducing iron stirrups to the warhorses of the early Muslim armies? Source: "He [al-Muhallab ibn Abi Sufra] was also credited with the introduction of metal stirrups into the Muslim armies." Hugh N. Kennedy, The Great Arab Conquests (2007), p. 243.
  • Reviewed: Pending

Improved to Good Article status by Al Ameer son (talk). Self-nominated at 14:40, 2 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article was promoted to Good Article status on May 27, 2019, so overall quality should be high. I have a couple of minor questions. First, the statement in the wiki article about the iron stirrups has a different citation. The citation provided here (Kennedy, p. 243) comes later in the paragraph. I think if you just add the Kennedy reference to the sentence that specifically states he introduced iron stirrups, then that would be fine. Second, can you have the hook match the article? Either use "metal stirrups" or use "iron stirrups" in both? I don't have access to this book, but accept reference is OK in good faith. QuakerSquirrel (talk) 15:21, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @QuakerSquirrel: Thanks for the review, I made those adjustments. I still have to do the QPQ review. I’ll ping you when it’s done. Cheers, —Al Ameer (talk) 15:14, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Ethiopian white-footed mouse, Ethiopian forest brush-furred rat

  • ... that the Ethiopian white-footed mouse and the Ethiopian forest brush-furred rat are two of the most abundant rodents in montane forests in the country? Source: "One of the commonest rodents in Ethiopian montane forests." and "The most common rodent trapped at altitudes above 1500 m within and close to forest habitats"
  • Reviewed: Huang Zhanyue
  • Comment: This QPQ is for a two article hook

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:33, 2 June 2019 (UTC).

Arab Serai

Arab Serai
Arab Serai
  • Reviewed: Soon

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 09:10, 31 May 2019 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - not that interesting. Perhaps you could use use it was built by Mughal emperor to make shelter three hundred Arab priests to make new hook?

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol question.svg ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 11:12, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

  • Hook is not remotely interesting. WBGconverse 15:05, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

Proposing a hook based on Captain Medusa's suggestion:

  • ALT1 ... that the Arab Serai, a 16th-century roadside inn in Delhi, may have been built to shelter three hundred Arab priests who had accompanied the Mughal emperor's widow on her hajj to Mecca?

I am not familiar with the subject matter and I'm not confident with my rewording (it could probably be rephrased), so Royroydeb please clarify if there are any inaccuracies with ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:06, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg the hook is much better now. Just waiting for QPQ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:00, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 28[edit]

Kieth Engen

  • Reviewed: David Scott
  • Comment: He did many things well, - I trust wordsmiths will help to work on a hook, - this is more or less a placeholder

Created by LouisAlain (talk), Voceditenore (talk), and Kablammo (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 07:11, 4 June 2019 (UTC).

Liu Xianjue

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 07:14, 1 June 2019 (UTC).

Binod Chaudhary

Binod Chaudhary
Binod Chaudhary

5x expanded by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 20:56, 28 May 2019 (UTC).

Reviewed: Arab Serai

  • Symbol possible vote.svg According to the DYK tool, the expansion done to the article has not reached 5x. This will still require some work before it can be approved for DYK. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:08, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment: the DYKcheck tool reports that there were 2441 prose characters prior to expansion, 12283 afterward. Since a 5x expansion would be to 12205, it has made it. Previous incarnations of the article did go higher than 2441 (I found one pretty close to 4000), which is why DYKcheck says the 5x expansion dates back to 2013, but those were far enough in the past that they aren't relevant now for the current expansion—the article had been stable at 2441 since March. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:17, 29 May 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 29[edit]

Lilian Benningsen

  • Reviewed: Mandy Moore (choreographer)
  • Comment: The original hook is professional, the second for those who can't imagine what "create a role" means, and the third adding Eboli which must have been quite sensational, according to sources. If a date connection is wanted: DOD 12 June.

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 10:39, 5 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I'm going to suggest a new hook here, letting another reviewer decide if it's good enough for DYK or not. I've also struck ALT0 and ALT2 as being too long and too complicated (and ALT0 uses the "created the role" terminology which consensus has determined is not appropriate for DYK purposes), keeping ALT1 as a hook that is direct to the point and explaining the main hook fact in a concise manner.
ALT3... that Austrian opera singer Lilian Benningsen was awarded the title Kammersängerin, and was given the Bavarian Order of Merit in 1970?
I am aware that you are not fond of hooks that mention the Kammersängerin term, but you have to understand that this is a mostly-unfamiliar term to non-opera audiences, and a mention of it in this form would be a good idea to introduce it to new readers. In addition, the statement "Her grave is in the Waldfriedhof in Gauting" lacks a footnote. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Sarjun ibn Mansur

  • ... that the Syrian Melkite Christian Sarjun ibn Mansur was in charge of the fiscal administration of Syria under the first five Umayyad caliphs, a period of half a century? Source: "Many sources know that he was at the head of the tax bureau in Syria during the caliphates of Muawiyah I, Yazid I, Muawiyah II, Marwan I, and well into the times of Abdalmalik [...] Baladhuri ... names as the date for the replacement of the man and hismethod the year 81 = 700, the fifteenth year of Abdalmalik's reign. A conservative guess for the year of his installation by Muawiyah would be the year 30 = 650". Sprengling (1939), p. 182
    • ALT1:... that the Melkite Christian Sarjun ibn Mansur, who headed the fiscal administration of Syria under the first five Umayyad caliphs, was the father of Saint John of Damascus? Source: "Many sources know that he was at the head of the tax bureau in Syria during the caliphates of Muawiyah I, Yazid I, Muawiyah II, Marwan I, and well into the times of Abdalmalik". Sprengling (1939), p. 182; "S. war der... der Vater des Ioannes Damaskenos (# 2969) und zugleich der Adoptivvater von dessen Adoptivbruder Kosmas (# 4089)." Prosopographie der mittelbyzantinischen Zeit, Sarğūn ibn Manṣūr ar-Rūmī (#6510)
  • Reviewed: not yet

Created by Cplakidas (talk). Self-nominated at 13:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 30[edit]

Patrick Francheterre

5x expanded by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 14:13, 31 May 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 31[edit]

Gao Xiaoxia

Created by Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 18:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Needs the year she fled, for context. I assumed at first it was a reference to the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1934, and was surprised to see it was a later much less publicized visa incident in the 1950s. (talk) 22:56, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Joanne Berger-Sweeney

Created by Jerilyn98 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 15:28, 3 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg First thing, you need to specify Trinity College (Connecticut), given all the dozens of options at Trinity College, at least three of which are far better known. Long and new enough, seems neutral. Is a qpq needed? Oh, oh Earwig is 75% confident of copyvio from her college bio - see here. Considerable rewriting will be needed. Johnbod (talk) 19:54, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Johnbod: I changed the hook to Trinity College (Connecticut). In addition, within the article, I added that link the first time it was mentioned in each section. (With the exception of the first sentence -- it links to the correct Trinity, but it says "Hartford, Connecticut" right after it, so adding "(Connecticut)" seemed redundant.) I've also rewritten the portions of concern. Copyvio now shows "violation unlikely". Finally, I think I already did the QPQ, unless that's something different from what I understand. Above, you'll see I reviewed Al-Muhallab ibn Abi Sufra. Let me know if there are any other concerns. Thanks for reviewing! QuakerSquirrel (talk) 13:30, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
  • You should only link it once in the article (and not use the form with parentheses in text). Here, I'd use "Trinity College in Connecticut" or "Trinity College, Connecticut". Earwig now I think ok, although still picking up on this passage:
"These demands include that she retract the club's approval, release a statement denouncing white supremacy and change the two-step process to approve clubs.
The Churchill Club is a 10-member group that describes itself as “dedicated to the preservation, dissemination and extension of the Western moral and philosophical tradition." The club is the first campus chapter of the Churchill Institute, which was started by Gregory B. Smith, a Professor of Political Science at Trinity College. Smith drew criticism for referring to African-American, Asian-American, Latino, Muslim and Jewish culture houses on campus as “tribal enclaves.”".

Johnbod (talk) 02:48, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Mrinalini Devi

Mrinalini Devi with Rabindranath Tagore, 1883
Mrinalini Devi with Rabindranath Tagore, 1883

Created by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 05:22, 1 June 2019 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: ????
  • Interesting: ????

QPQ: ????
Overall: Symbol question.svg Excellent article and addition to women in wikipedia. Could you bring at least one English language source? As to the hook, it seems to me that it's more interesting that she was just nine years old when they married. QPQ still to do. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

@Onceinawhile: Frankly, Tagore is not hardly celebrated outside the Bengal region, so hardly is there any other language source with much information. I could only find these (1 2 3). Also during those days, marrying at 9 was not uncommon. RRD (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
How about: Sahu, Monideepa (15 May 2013). "Chapter 7: Marriage". Rabindranath Tagore: Puffin Lives. Penguin Books Limited. ISBN 978-81-8475-991-4.
Onceinawhile (talk) 15:49, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
How about a hook relating to Mrinalini’s views on Kadambari Devi. That is sure to get some clicks! Onceinawhile (talk) 15:54, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is need of a copyedit before this can be promoted. There are many awkward grammatical constructions throughout the article. In addition, the hook, while it has potential, lacks context for non-Indian readers. For example, it states "unlike traditional marriages". How are readers supposed to know what a traditional Indian marriage is like? The hook does not make sense without context. Failing that, we can go with Onceinawhile's suggestion:
ALT1 ... that Rabindranath Tagore married his wife Mrinalini Devi when she was nine years old and he was twenty-two?
ALT1a ... that the Indian writer and Nobel laureate Rabindranath Tagore married his wife Mrinalini Devi when she was nine years old and he was twenty-two?
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:34, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
  • The hook provides no context, and therefore honestly isn't very interesting. Who are the people getting married, why are they important? Are they breaking traditions from 800 years ago, or last year? Are they in India, or living in another country at the time? Also, I do find it odd their age at marriage is not mentioned. Tradition in certain places and times or not, child marriage is obviously and invariably horrible, and if their marriage was, for some reason, not horrible (they held off on intimacy until she was old enough to consent despite the grooming, etc.), then perhaps the article and hook should reflect that. Otherwise, it seems the hook is hiding the real story, i.e. horror story, for no particular reason other than a dedication to the banal. (talk) 23:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Trilogy Education Services

5x expanded by GobsPint (talk). Self-nominated at 18:06, 31 May 2019 (UTC).

  • General eligiblity:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - No clear source
  • Interesting: ????
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Unless the 5x expansion is finished in the next few days, this is ineligible DannyS712 (talk) 23:24, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Given that the article still hasn't been 5x expanded, I'm marking this as not passing. Symbol delete vote.svg --DannyS712 (talk) 21:10, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Arvind Sawant

  • Reviewed: Soon

5x expanded by Royroydeb (talk). Self-nominated at 16:04, 31 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg A better hook might be needed here as I don't think the company is well-known outside of India, and it would not be clear to our non-Indian readers how working for them is important. If anything, at the very least, additional context is needed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 20:30, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Dad Behavior

  • ... that Marge, Homer, Lisa and Maggie all die in the couch gag of The Simpsons episode "Dad Behavior", leaving Bart in control of the TV remote? Source: [38]
    • ALT1:... that all but one of the Simpsons die in the couch gag of the episode "Dad Behavior"?

Improved to Good Article status by Jonie148 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:45, 31 May 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New hooks are needed as both fail WP:DYKSG#C6, which require that hooks about works of fiction need to be connected to the real world in some way. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:55, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
Okay. I hadn't noticed (and don't like) this rule, but I'm obviously going to have to play along. The hooks suggested above are the most interesting aspect of the article in my opinion, so although bringing in "real world context" makes the phrasing more awkward, I want to adapt them, rather than redo them. How about the following alternative?
  • ALT2 ... that all but one of the Simpsons die prior to the couch gag of the episode "Dad Behavior", which was also the first episode of The Simpsons to be written by series co-executive producer Ryan Koh?

Jonie148 (talk) 13:31, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

It still focuses on a plot point, so it wouldn't meet the rule either. It doesn't matter if it's the most interesting aspect of the article, if it does not meet that rule, it can't be used. I see this is your first DYK nomination so it's understandable if you weren't aware of this rule. For reference, here's an example of a possible hook that does follow the requirement of a real-world connection:
ALT3 ... that "Dad Behavior" was the first episode of The Simpsons to be written by series co-executive producer Ryan Koh?
Granted, I'm not sure if it will appeal to non-Simpsons fans, but perhaps another reviewer could chime in here. Another possibility, if you still wish to use the couch gag as a source for hook facts, could be to use the reviews used in the Reception section (i.e. try writing a hook about how the couch gag was received, using the quotes given by reviewers as a basis). If you're having difficulty, you're free to leave a request at WT:DYK for help. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:12, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
There is no rule which says that a hook can't focus on a plot point. The rule simply says that such a hook "must involve the real world in some way", which ALT2 definitely does. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 01:37, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
At the very least, it's discouraged in most cases, unless additional context is required. And even if that were not the case, the other issue with ALT2 is that it seems to combine two very different hook facts, which makes the hook lack focus. Does it want to focus on the couch gag, or the writer? It would probably be better to stick to only one or the other, but not both. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:54, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks both for your input and suggestions. In my opinion, a simple reordering of ALT2 makes it seem more focused. I also like the idea of a hook about how the couch gag was received, as represented in ALT4.
ALT2 ... that "Dad Behavior" was the first episode of The Simpsons to be written by series co-executive producer Ryan Koh, and all but one of the Simpsons die prior to its couch gag?
ALT4 ... that critics found the couch gag of The Simpsons episode "Dad Behavior" remarkably grim, as all but one of the Simpsons die during its otherwise familiar title sequence? Source: [39][40][41]
I prefer ALT4 personally. Jonie148 (talk) 07:21, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, I think ALT4 is the best option thus far. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:35, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 1[edit]

Lorraine Janzen Kooistra

Created by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:45, 1 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I wonder if a better hook could be proposed here, as I'm not sure if any of the hooks could appeal to audiences unfamiliar with Canadian education. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:37, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Hi Narutolovehinata5 and thank you for beginning this review. I absolutely see where you're coming from. I would argue that being the first program director at a major university could be universally important and hooky but I will try to find hooks that are interesting to a broader audience. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 22:08, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: The reason I keep mentioning the Royal Society of Canada is because this is where her notability hinges on. It is a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 17:39, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
If that were the case, I think it might be better to simply stick to that hook fact (i.e. go with ALT3). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have completed my QPQ. Are you saying Alt3 is good? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:04, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 2[edit]

Gregory Gray

  • Reviewed: Kine Beate Bjørnås
  • Comment: I expanded the article from 1085 to 6445 prose characters (excluding headings, infobox, discography,etc). As it is about a gay person can it please go up in June, Gay History Month, or preferably on 28 June, the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall riots. Note that any hook should contain both names - Gregory Gray and Mary Cigarettes, as many people would know of him only under one of these names.

5x expanded by Felixkrater (talk). Self-nominated at 10:20, 9 June 2019 (UTC).

Maria Howard Weeden

Maria Howard Weeden
Maria Howard Weeden

Created by Zigzig20s (talk) and Parkwells (talk). Nominated by Zigzig20s (talk) at 08:13, 8 June 2019 (UTC).

Rugg/Feldman benchmarks

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 11:02, 3 June 2019 (UTC).

Reviewed Hells Bells.

I think of the various hooks, ALT1 is the most "hooky" and likely the best? Maury Markowitz (talk) 11:02, 3 June 2019 (UTC)

Eunice Parsons

  • ... that living American artist Eunice Parsons celebrated her centennial year in 2016 with a gallery exhibit of new collage works, Eunice Parsons, La Centenaire? Source: "Eunice Parsons celebrates her centennial year with a new exhibit of collage works ranging from 2006 to present...The show, Eunice Parsons, La Centenaire, opens Friday, March 4 at Roll-Up Photo Studio Gallery..." [42]
    • ALT1:... that living American collage artist Eunice Parsons created a new gallery show, Eunice Parsons, La Centenaire to celebrate her centennial year in 2016? Source: "Eunice Parsons celebrates her centennial year with a new exhibit of collage works ranging from 2006 to present...The show, Eunice Parsons, La Centenaire, opens Friday, March 4 at Roll-Up Photo Studio Gallery..." [43]
  • Comment: ALT1 is a better paraphrase than the original.

Created by Grand'mere Eugene (talk). Self-nominated at 20:51, 3 June 2019 (UTC).

David Alcaide

5x expanded by Lee Vilenski (talk). Self-nominated at 21:35, 2 June 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 3[edit]

Susan Beschta

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk). Self-nominated at 22:36, 10 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Full review to follow, but for now I have to say that the stub templates in the article have to be removed before this can qualify for DYK. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:47, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Kang Woo Kyu

  • ... that Kang Woo Kyu was a fighter for Korean independence during the Japanese colonial period? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Won96 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:45, 3 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Won96: Hey, I've given a bit of polish to the hook. The article is a strong start but it needs a bit of copyediting. (I've also done some to the hook, adding a link.) I don't think I'm the right person for the job, though, since I'm not a topic expert and I don't speak Korean. While the article is new enough out of mainspace, long enough and has a good density of citations, I strongly advise you to take it to WP:GOCE and have someone with more familiarity with Korean copyedit this for you. Raymie (tc) 18:28, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Samuel Adalberg

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 06:54, 6 June 2019 (UTC).

Sean Sherman

Sherman foraging ramps
Sherman foraging ramps
  • … that Oglala Lakota chef Sean Sherman (pictured) rejects frybread as a symbol of colonial oppression but also considers it a symbol of resilience? Source: “Sherman and other chefs reject fry bread, which they see as a symbol of resilience under colonial oppression. here
    • ALT1:… that Oglala Lakota chef Sean Sherman (pictured) abandoned the use of non-native ingredients after having an epiphany and realizing that Oglala foods were not represented in US cuisine? Source: “Then a strange fact struck him: The food of his people, the Oglala Sioux, was completely unrepresented in American cuisine…“I just had an epiphany,” he said, “I should be doing the food of my ancestry and my heritage.” here and “he decided one day to abandon all ingredients that are not indigenous or regional to areas in U.S. and Canada.” here

Created by Valereee (talk). Self-nominated at 16:32, 5 June 2019 (UTC).

Günther Schneider-Siemssen

Günther Schneider-Siemssen
Günther Schneider-Siemssen

Moved to mainspace by LiamRowe (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 10:14, 3 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Right now there's an unreferenced paragraph that needs to be cited (the one that starts "As a guest..."), so this will need to be resolved before it gets promoted. The hook is okay, but there seem to be other aspects about his career that are more eye-catching. How about:
ALT1 !-- ... that the stage designs of Günther Schneider-Siemssen were used in opera houses such as the Metropolitan Opera in New York City and the Teatro Colón in Buenos Aires?
ALT2 ... that Günther Schneider-Siemssen pioneered and developed a symbolic style of using hand-painted projections and sophisticated special effects for opera set designs?
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:21, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, thank you for looking and suggesting. I looked for a reference for Teatro Colon, but can't find any but his website, and something is so wrong with it that I won't even link to it. (Google finds it, but then you end somewhere else ...) Instead, I have now the more general (and more impressive) list from the obituaries. I wish we had a short way to name the Austrian Bundestheater as the Germans can do. ALT2 is a good idea, but doesn't suggest the worldwide impact. I picked the Ring cycle because its significance (20 hours of music, many scenes to design) is rather well known, and to keep one production that long is unusual and tells a lot about its quality, + he received a price for it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:40, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Henry Meintjes

  • ... that Captain Henry Meintjes, a World War I South African air ace, was shot in the wrist during in a battle but still managed to land his airplane? Source - Above the Trenches by Shores - cited in article.
    • ALT1:... that Captain Henry Meintjes, a World War I South African air ace, scored eight kills before being injured?
  • Reviewed: Did you know nominations/Teisha Shadwell
  • Comment: Expanded 5x by me, self nominating

5x expanded by Gbawden (talk). Self-nominated at 09:39, 3 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Full review to follow, but before that, the stub template in the article has to be deleted. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:51, 4 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 4[edit]

String Quartet in A major (Bliss)

Arthur Bliss
Arthur Bliss
  • ... that the String Quartet in A major was composed in 1913 while Arthur Bliss (pictured) was an undergraduate but like his other pre-war chamber music, was suppressed and not revived until the 1990s?

Created by Graham1973 (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 06:04, 10 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg — Several sentences and an entire paragraph lack citations. Second sentence in lede, pertaining to the hook, is not cited. Also, anything summarized in the lede should be covered in the body of text. i.e. The word "suppressed" occurs in the lede, but the body of text only mentions "withdrawn", making it a bit unclear that this is the "suppressed" referred to in the lede. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:00, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, some citations seem to be in the middle of the sentence rather than at the end, and I could move those, but we really need @Graham1973: to deal with the uncited paragraph, and whether "suppressed" is the best word to use. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:58, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Carlton le Willows Academy

Improved to Good Article status by Curlymanjaro (talk). Self-nominated at 21:22, 6 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg recently promoted to GA, no copyvio, long enough, well cited, no plagiarism concerns. May not need QPQ? Primary hook is awkwardly worded and not cited in the article; ALT1 is not especially interesting.Kenirwin/(talk) 23:30, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Guess you're right, although I did quite like ALT1. How about this:
    • ALT2:... that Carlton le Willows Academy was opened in 1956 by Sir John Wolfenden, whose report, first recommending the decriminalisation of homosexuality in Britain, was published a year later? Source: Association of Education Committees (1956). British Education Index. 108. London: Councils and Education Press. p. 1000. OCLC 225906831.

Psalm 150 (Franck)

César Franck
César Franck

Expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:15, 4 June 2019 (UTC).

Thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:50, 5 June 2019 (UTC)

Robyn Benincasa

  • ... that Robyn Benincasa ran a marathon four months after her hip replacement surgery, and then founded the nonprofit Project Athena to support women in pursuing their athletic dreams after suffering medical setbacks? Source: "She underwent hip resurfacing surgery, and 16 weeks later, ran the Sedona Marathon with her friend Melissa Geary by her side. "That made me think of how great it would be to bring that kind of confidence and support to other women," she says. Months later, she launched Project Athena, a nonprofit that helps women who have suffered a medical setback live out their athletic dreams." ([49])

Created by Kenirwin (talk). Nominated by Kenirwin (talk) at 03:40, 5 June 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 5[edit]

Abdullah's entry into Transjordan, Interregnum (Transjordan)

Proclamation of Abdullah as leader of Transjordan, 1921
Proclamation of Abdullah as leader of Transjordan, 1921

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 21:52, 5 June 2019 (UTC).

Thomas Cheney (folklorist)

  • Reviewed: Gustave A. Mueller
  • Comment: New article created in my sandbox and moved June 5, 2019

Created by Skyes(BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 20:33, 5 June 2019 (UTC).

William Barnes (entomologist)

  • ... that at the death of William Barnes in 1930, his collection of butterflies was regarded as the largest and finest in the world with possibly 10,000 species and an estimated 473,000 specimens? It is also the largest collection by number of specimens in the history of the Smithsonian Institution. [50]

Created by Pvmoutside (talk). Self-nominated at 17:59, 5 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi Pvmoutside. Unfortunately the article is not currently well enough referenced to qualify to DYK - there needs to be an inline citation at the end of each paragraph as a minimum. If you can improve this, drop me a line and I will pop back to complete the review. Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 06:55, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment: Sourcing aside, the hook is far too long and cumbersome. Hooks should be concise! Everything after "finest in the world" should be dropped. --Animalparty! (talk) 06:26, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

2019 Tripoli shooting

Tripoli is northern city in Lebanon
Tripoli is northern city in Lebanon
  • Comment: I hope accept my new DYK, I worked a lot for creating article

Created by Forest90 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:16, 7 June 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 6[edit]

Damiano Michieletto

  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: sorry, I was travelling and missed it by a day.

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:38, 14 June 2019 (UTC).

NS Line

A streetcar on the NS Line
A streetcar on the NS Line

Created/expanded by Truflip99 (talk) and SJ Morg (talk). Nominated by Truflip99 (talk) at 17:58, 11 June 2019 (UTC).

I have added an image for possible inclusion. A similar, alternative image can be seen via this link. SJ Morg (talk) 17:54, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

WQQW (Connecticut)

  • ... that the final owners of Waterbury, Connecticut's WQQW radio station were involved in a fraudulent banking ring that toppled the town's mayor? Source: "The probe involving Richard D. Barbieri Sr. took down a mayor, a Board of Aldermen president, a state GOP chairman and led to two dozen convictions of those involved. The scam involved property flipping, illegal loans, bribes and theft of city funds."
    • ALT1:... that W1XBS in Waterbury, Connecticut, was one of four special "high-fidelity" AM radio stations licensed to operate in the 1930s? Source: "On April 4 and 5, 1934, the Federal Radio Commission held hearings on all six applications: ... Two weeks later, the Commission approved all except the Unity and Los Angeles applications."

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 19:51, 7 June 2019 (UTC).

Paradise Airlines Flight 901A

Created by RecycledPixels (talk). Self-nominated at 06:31, 7 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg For the first hook, perhaps a link for FAA? Shuipzv3 (talk) 16:36, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Digital media use and mental health

A young boy engaged with a smartphone
A young boy engaged with a smartphone

Improved to Good Article status by E.3 (talk) and Farang Rak Tham (talk). Nominated by E.3 (talk) at 20:00, 6 June 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 7[edit]

Asthall barrow

Created by Usernameunique (talk). Self-nominated at 23:58, 15 June 2019 (UTC).

Psalm 150

  • ... that Psalm 150 names nine kinds of musical instruments to be used in praise of God, including the harp, lyre, drum, flute, cymbal, and shofar? Source: "He should be praised with every type of instrument, from the blasts of the shofar to harps, tambourines, flutes, cymbals, and more. (David lists nine types of instruments in all – even castanets!)" (Orthodox Union)
    • ALT1:... that in the ancient Jewish text of Perek Shirah, verse 5 of Psalm 150 is said by the spider, and verse 6 by the rat? Source: "The Spider is saying, "Praise Him with sounding cymbals! Praise Him with loud clashing cymbals!" (Psalms 150:5)" ... "The Rat is saying, 'Let every soul praise God, Hallelukah! (Psalms 150:6)" (Perek Shirah

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 22:51, 12 June 2019 (UTC).

Yusuf Gowon

Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 22:12, 12 June 2019 (UTC).

1st Canadian Comedy Awards, Canadian Comedy Awards, List of Canadian comedians, Peameal bacon, Poutine, Made in Canada

French fries and cheese curds with gravy
Serving of poutine
  • ... that poutine (pictured) and back bacon on a bun were served while The Beaver was awarded to Made in Canada, clowns, and comedians at the inaugural Canadian Comedy Awards? Hook fact appears in 1st Canadian Comedy Awards. Sources: "the premier Canadian Comedy Awards [...] guests munched on Canadian fare like back bacon on a bun and poutine [...] Rick Mercer was chosen best male performer in a TV comedy for Made in Canada [...] Other awards went to: [...] Mike Kennard and John Turner (a.k.a. Mump and Smoot, although they appeared sans clown face last night); best actor[s]in a comedic play [...] Canada's comic elite were finally able to take home something more tangible than simply the memory of chuckles and guffaws." The Globe and Mail and "Beaver (yup, that's what the award is called)" The Globe and Mail

Created/expanded by Reidgreg (talk). Self-nominated at 23:21, 7 June 2019 (UTC).

Note that not all of the articles are ready for DYK reviews:

All articles ready for DYK review. – Reidgreg (talk) 12:04, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg@Reidgreg: do you have an image to go with this? Yoninah (talk) 13:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
    • Nothing specific. I suppose a picture would balance-out the length of the hook, so good idea! The picture of the trophy at the CCA article is fair use, as is the title card for Made in Canada, so they don't qualify. Commons has plenty of pictures of poutine. (File:Poutine.JPG might be good and appears in the article, though I'm not the best person to judge.) – Reidgreg (talk) 13:53, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Starting review of Peameal bacon, as that's one that hasn't been to GA already --valereee (talk) 14:45, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Peameal bacon GTG: was expanded from 762 characters to 5000+ between Jun 7 and 10, nominated Jun 7, so plenty long and 5x expansion done and nominated in time. I did not find the hook info (that it was served at the first awards) in the article, but I did find that at the awards article, so I’ve added it in +source. There was a minor instance of too-close paraphrasing in the lead, which I fixed. Article is sufficiently sourced, and references appear to be in good shape. The point within the hook that references this article is interesting. --valereee (talk) 15:23, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Starting review of Poutine, which is another food article so happy to pitch in there, too. --valereee (talk) 15:29, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Poutine GTG: is long enough and was reviewed for GA June 7, so new enough. There are sufficient citations, at least one per paragraph, and they appear to be in good shape. Once again I did not find the hook point in the article, but again added it. Note to Reidgreg: I think you’re going to need to put the hook point with source into each of the other articles in order for them to be bolded rather than simply linked. Fixed an instance of too-close paraphrasing. Point within the hook that references this article is interesting. Article is stable. Image of Poutine is properly licensed and used in article. --valereee (talk) 16:07, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
@Valereee: I added a picture from poutine to the nomination, if you wouldn't mind checking it as well. Thanks. – Reidgreg (talk) 17:05, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Could I have a third opinion on the bolded note above? Rule H5 requires the hook fact to be cited in the [main] article, but it isn't clear if the hook fact must be present in every bolded article of a multiple-article hook. I don't mind the addition of the hook fact to the above articles (poutine, peameal bacon), but it might seem trivial or out of place in the other secondary articles (Made in Canada, List of Canadian comedians, Canadian Comedy Awards). – Reidgreg (talk) 17:05, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Reidgreg, I'm not interpreting it to mean all the articles have to be connected somehow with all the other articles, just that the point in the hook (that poutine was served at this awards dinner, for instance) would need to be mentioned in both articles, and so on. Poutine doesn't need to go into any of the other articles. It just needs to be in the poutine article that they were served at the awards, and in the awards article that poutine was served. Winning a Beaver would need to be mentioned in the Made in Canada article, and the fact Made in Canada won a Beaver in the awards article. But the Made in Canada article doesn't need to mention poutine, and vice versa. But maybe I'm wildly off base here! --valereee (talk) 17:23, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
I've added the image check to the poutine review --valereee (talk) 17:28, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Ah, good!  CCA has "The Beaver" and comedians, the List refers to CCA, you've fixed the food articles, and MIC refers to this article and CCAs.  This main article is the only one with the complete hook fact. – Reidgreg (talk) 17:38, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Valereee: the hook fact only needs to be mentioned and sourced in one of the articles. @Reidgreg: great picture! Yoninah (talk) 17:40, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Yoninah, even if both articles are bolded? What's the difference in requirements between a bolded article and a linked article, just that they've both been through review? They don't need to be connected to one another via a hook that is sourced in each? It seems like when someone goes to a bolded article and doesn't see anything that connects it to the hook, they'd wonder why. ETA: er, not arguing, just trying to get my own understanding straight. :) --valereee (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
@Valereee: the hook fact has to appear in only one bolded article in the hook, even if there are 30 bolded articles! I don't understand your question about linked articles; they are not subject to DYK review. Yoninah (talk) 19:50, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Reidgreg:@Valereee: There is too much linking going on in the hook. The "clowns" link looks like a link to Clown, not to the award winner. I suggest deleting that. Linking to "comedians" as List of Canadian comedians is also confusing; was the award given to all the comedians in the list? I would suggest doing a different hook for List of Canadian comedians and writing the hook this way:
  • ALT1: ... that poutine (pictured) and back bacon on a bun were served while The Beaver was awarded to Made in Canada at the inaugural Canadian Comedy Awards? Yoninah (talk) 19:56, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
    • Comment: My idea was for "Made in Canada, clowns and comedians" to read without the comma, as if "Made in Canada" was a compound modifier applied to "clowns and comedians", like another way of saying Canadian clowns and Canadian comedians. (About 20 people on that list received awards at the 1st CCAs; less than 5% of the list. Mump and Smoot are regarded as the most-famous Canadian clown duo, so Canadian clowns → Mump and Smoot.) I'm open to ALT1 but would like to see how the rest of the reviews go. – Reidgreg (talk) 20:41, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Reidgreg: OK, but that compound modifier thing isn't clear at all. I'll try to review the rest of the hooks if someone doesn't beat me to it. Yoninah (talk) 20:46, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Tsunekazu Ishihara

  • Reviewed: James J. Connell
  • Comment: ALT1 can probably use a rewording - though original alt is probably more interesting.

Moved to mainspace by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 07:56, 7 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Good article, well-cited, and the hook's right in there and cited. I think we're good to go! Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.7% of all FPs 12:12, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 8[edit]

Yellow-footed honeyguide

  • ... that the yellow-footed honeyguide probably includes beeswax in its diet? Source: "Feeds on insects, and fruits and their seeds; probably also eats beeswax, as yellow waxy material found in stomachs."

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:51, 13 June 2019 (UTC).

George Gosse

George Gosse
George Gosse

    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Improved to Good Article status by Peacemaker67 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:25, 12 June 2019 (UTC).

WBOW (1230 AM)

  • Reviewed: Kang Woo Kyu
  • Comment: I do worry about a potential BLP violation with ALT1, but it's much, much more interesting.

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 02:30, 11 June 2019 (UTC).

2007 Terengganu Riot

  • ... that police shot two men during a peaceful rally-turned-riot in Terengganu, Malaysia? Source: "At 11.45pm, a general duty police constable allegedly shoots PAS members Suwandi Abdul Ghani (left), 37, and Muhamad Azman Aziz, 21, near Permai Inn Hotel. In all, four shots are fired. Police later say the constable was acting in self-defence after being surrounded and assaulted by 20 people." ([51])

Created by Bejinhan (talk). Self-nominated at 00:38, 9 June 2019 (UTC).


Created by Egon Willighagen (talk), John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk), ARECCfan (talk), and Room309 (talk). Nominated by ARECCfan (talk) at 19:11, 8 June 2019 (UTC).

Uptown Hudson Tubes

  • ... that the Uptown Hudson Tubes between New York and New Jersey took over 30 years to complete? Source: ASCE. "Construction of the subway tunnel under the Hudson River between New York and New Jersey stretched out over a period of more than three decades beginning in 1874 ... On the afternoon of February 25, 1908, President Theodore Roosevelt pressed a button from the White House that turned on electrical power to the system.
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending

Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 17:36, 8 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Recently promoted GA, article is well-sourced, no copyvios detected, and the hooks are cited to reliable sources. I have a preference for ALT2, as it really highlights an unusual quality of the tunnels' structure, in contrast to many projects (e.g. the second avenue subway) that took many years from conception/initial construction to opening. @Epicgenius: QPQ still needed, otherwise good to go. ComplexRational (talk) 01:41, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

JFK Express

  • ... that the JFK Express subway service in New York City never actually went to JFK Airport? Source: NY Times 1993 "For years, transit officials have lamented the absence of a direct train link between Manhattan and Kennedy. Fifteen years ago, the Transit Authority decided to try to take advantage of the A train's proximity to the airport and began an express service to Kennedy that was promoted as the "train to the plane." Many riders thought the reality fell short of the sales pitch. For $7.50 they were simply riding the A line, though in a slightly nicer train with police protection and few stops, to the Howard Beach station in Queens and then lugging their baggage onto a connecting bus to the airport."
    • ALT1:... that the JFK Express subway service in New York City was so unpopular among airport riders that just before it was discontinued, nearly half of its 3,200 daily riders were commuters? Source: NNY Times 1989 "They also said that 47 percent of the riders are commuters from Howard Beach, Queens, or the Rockaways who pay a discount of $3.50 a trip." (the service ended in April 1990)
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending
  • Comment: There's gotta be a better way of wording this.

Improved to Good Article status by Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 17:27, 8 June 2019 (UTC).

  • ALT0 sounds clear to me actually. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:02, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
  • An alternate way of wording ALT1: ... that New York City's cancelled JFK Express train was popular among commuters despite being intended for use by airport passengers? SounderBruce 03:08, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Personally I think we should just stick to ALT0: it sounds catchier and less technical than ALT1 or ALT1a. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:03, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Trust Exercise (novel)

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 12:28, 8 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg A new hook is probably needed: it is not uncommon for authors to be mad while writing, and the hook lacks context as to how her case is special. In addition, the article needs a copyedit due to grammatical errors and typos. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:03, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5 How is this hook?___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 11:03, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
It sounds like a rather bland hook sadly, even if it was reworded into a more succinct form of English. Give me a day or two and I'll try to help out with possible alternative hooks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:15, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Tatsuo Nomura

Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 11:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC).

Diplecogaster bimaculata

5x expanded by Quetzal1964 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:44, 8 June 2019 (UTC).

Rose Hollermann

Rose Hollermann at the 2016 Rio Paralympics
Rose Hollermann at the 2016 Rio Paralympics
  • ... that Rose Hollermann (pictured) was the youngest player on the Team USA women's wheelchair basketball team at the 2016 Rio Paralympics? Source: "Hollermann was the National Junior Wheelchair Basketball National Champion from 2008-10 and is the youngest member on the gold medal-winning team for the 2016 Rio Paralympic Games" [54]

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:19, 8 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough. Long enough. AGF on the hook source, as I get "451: Unavailable for legal reasons", not being based in the US. The "youngest" hook is a bit dull, not really "interesting" in my opinion. There are only five people on a basketball team, as I recall. Perhaps something about how she survived a car accident that killed two of her brothers? Article is well-cited. NPOV observed. Earwig and spot-checking reveal no close paraphrasing, copyright violations or plagiarism issues. Image is suitably licenced for main page. QPQ done. Edwardx (talk) 10:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
    • There are twelve players on a Paralympic basketball team. Only five are on the court at any time. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 11:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Hawkeye7. Youngest of 12 is better, but is it really "interesting"? Edwardx (talk) 12:22, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Climate system

Converted from a redirect by Femkemilene (talk). Self-nominated at 16:06, 9 June 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 9[edit]

Ivan Golunov

Created by Kirill Samredny (talk) and Alexander Davronov (talk). Nominated by Anomalous+0 (talk) at 14:45, 15 June 2019 (UTC).

Lophira lanceolata

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 13:15, 13 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Cwmhiraeth:, New enough, no copyvio issues, long enough, QPQ done, sourced and cited, hook interesting and followed by a reference. Quick question...source says "on the tree"...hook says "on the leaves"...Is that ok? Whispyhistory (talk) 09:39, 15 June 2019 (UTC)

Raja Harishchandra

Improved to Good Article status by Vivvt (talk). Self-nominated at 04:13, 12 June 2019 (UTC).

QPQ: Red XN - not done
Overall: Symbol question.svg ___CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:11, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Xia Da

Created by Kamakou (talk). Self-nominated at 02:43, 10 June 2019 (UTC).

Albert W. Hicks

5x expanded by GreenC (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 11 June 2019 (UTC).

  • I rewrote most of the article's previous text and added new text, pictures and sources. -- GreenC


Weebill, Victoria
Weebill, Victoria
  • ... that, at 8–9 cm (3.1–3.5 in) long, the weebill (pictured) is Australia's smallest bird? Source is offline

5x expanded by Casliber (talk) and StephanieMartin272 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 13:00, 11 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Expanded five-fold in the past seven days; long enough and within policy; hook size is fine, hook is interesting, cited (offline, but AGF) and neutral; QPQ done; image ok, but a crop wouldn't hurt, caption should be Weebill, not weebill. Otherwise GTG. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Okay, I capitalised the caption. If I get some uninterrupted time I can crop. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 10:01, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

1974 White House helicopter incident

White House South Lawn
White House South Lawn

Improved to Good Article status by L293D (talk). Self-nominated at 10:28, 11 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article reached GA status within the required time frame, article meets other DYK requirements. Hook is interesting, not a BLP violation as the private is now deceased, and cited inline. QPQ done. There is however some close paraphrasing with this source, which needs to be resolved before this is promoted. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:04, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

1963 Freedom Ballot

  • ... that nearly 80,000 black Mississippians casted a vote in the 1963 Freedom Ballot, four times more than the number registered to vote? Source: "Nearly 80,000 blacks came out to vote, four times the number of blacks registered to vote in the state." [56]

Created by MalachiReschke (talk). Nominated by MalachiReschke (talk) at 19:49, 10 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Comment to reviewer: I've offered to help this very new editor through this process. I've got the review on my watchlist, but feel free to ping me at any point. --valereee (talk) 10:48, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
@Valereee: Hello @MalachiReschke:, and welcome to Wikipedia - excellent first article! Basic DYK criterion have been met, and the hook sounds good, but I'm going to nitpick the article's contents a bit:
  • Article says that COFO is 4 organizations and is dominated by SNCC - can you quote the relevant passage from the JSTOR source, because I can't seem to find it? Generally, might be useful to use the rp template for that source.
  • "first integrated ticket for state leadership of Mississippi since the Reconstruction" - if I'm interpreting the source correctly, it says that it's the first "black and white" integrated ticket, not just any integrated ticket?
  • "from October 14 to November 4" - can't seem to find it in the source.
Otherwise, it would be good to go once these are resolved! Juxlos (talk) 14:35, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Juxlos, thank you! MalachiReschke and I will take the discussion to the talk page. Feel free to look in there if you like, and thank you for starting the review! --valereee (talk) 16:50, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Francis Joseph Bigger

  • ... that Irish antiquarian Francis Joseph Bigger (1863–1926) supported Gaelic culture, even paying for Uilleann pipes lessons for Francis McPeake, creator of "Wild Mountain Thyme"? Source: [57]
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created/expanded by Uncle G (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 22:16, 9 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Mandarax, I am more or less used to including such dates, because I believe they provide context. If you like it better without, go for it: I trust your judgment. Drmies (talk) 02:15, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Doesn't matter to me. My personal preference doesn't override yours. I trust your judgement more than my own, except, of course, in the preferred spelling of "judgement". MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 02:33, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Han Yu (pool player)

  • ... that pool player Han Yu didn't celebrate after winning her first world championship? "HANDS DOWN FOR HAN!". pro9.co.uk. Retrieved 9 June 2019. Afterwards, while explaining how it all happened, Han displayed the same quiet fortitude that she had on the table. No boasting, no wild celebrations, no getting too impressed with one's achievements
    • ALT1:... that pool player Han Yu scored a golden break in the final of the WPA World Nine-ball Championship, which was awarded as the referee didn't call it as a foul shot? "HANDS DOWN FOR HAN!". pro9.co.uk. Retrieved 9 June 2019. Sometime in the subsequent rack, a tournament official came over and informed the referee that the golden break of Han was actually an illegal break, meaning that three balls hadn't passed the head string. But since the referee hadn't called it, and nor did Lin, the golden break stood.

Moved to mainspace by Lee Vilenski (talk). Self-nominated at 15:24, 9 June 2019 (UTC).

Eleanor C. Pressly

Created by Penny Richards (talk). Nominated by Coffeeandcrumbs (talk) at 08:27, 9 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article was created today, so is new enough, and it is over the minimum length requirements. It appears to be neutral, has proper sources and inline citations of those sources, and the copyvio detector doesn't show any problems. The hook is short enough, properly and directly cited in the article to an accessible source, and is interesting. The only thing holding up this submission right now is for the QPQ review to be done. Penny Richards (talk · contribs), Coffeeandcrumbs (talk · contribs), let me know when that's been completed. SilverserenC 22:08, 9 June 2019 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 10[edit]

May Hollinworth

  • ... that in 1940, Australian theatre director and former chemistry demonstrator May Hollinworth was described as "a wizard with lighting effects"? Source: Quinn, Marjorie (2 May 1940). "Women Who Will Play a Part In Australian Drama Month". The Sun (9462). New South Wales, Australia. p. 29: "May Hollinworth is a wizard with lighting effects. She rubs her magic lamp, and lo! miracles occur." [58]
    • ALT1:... that May Hollinworth was a demonstrator in the School of Chemistry at the University of Sydney before becoming a theatre director? Source: E. C. (11 June 1938). "Music & Drama". The Telegraph. Queensland, Australia. p. 24: "There was a lull in Miss Hollinworth's stage career for some years as she took up chemistry at the Sydney University, becoming for a lengthy period a demonstrator at the Chemistry School. So she has two professions at her finger-tips." [59]

Created by RebeccaGreen (talk). Self-nominated at 14:19, 11 June 2019 (UTC).

WNSW (Maine)

  • Reviewed: MIQE
  • Comment: This hook writes itself...

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:33, 11 June 2019 (UTC).

Solstice (1990 video game)

  • ... that the critically-acclaimed opening theme of the 1990 video game Solstice is the personal favourite work of its composer Tim Follin?
    • ALT1: ... that the 1990 NES video game Solstice was originally planned and developed as a computer title before its developer won a contract with Nintendo following an early demonstration of the game?

Improved to Good Article status by Cat's Tuxedo (talk). Self-nominated at 19:32, 10 June 2019 (UTC).

  • I wonder if alternative hooks can be proposed here: the first hook seems okay but it sounds a bit self-promotional. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:00, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
Added another one. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 16:35, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Vicky Knight

Created/expanded by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 23:40, 10 June 2019 (UTC).

Battle of Semarang

  • ... that the Battle of Semarang is considered by Indonesian general Abdul Haris Nasution to be the first major battle involving Indonesia? Source: SIONG, HAN BING (1996). "The Secret of Major Kido: The Battle of Semarang, 15-19 October 1945". Bijdragen tot de Taal-, Land- en Volkenkunde. 152 (3). ISSN 0006-2294., p385: " Subsequently a battle raged which according to Nasution (1977:354, see also Hofland 1985) was the first major battle of the Indonesian nation"
    • ALT1:... that British accounts noted that Japanese actions during the Battle of Semarang had saved European prisoners of war? Source: Same as above, p414: "So Tuli wrote in his report: 'In the course of their fighting the Japanese, who fought with incredible gal lantry despite losses which with most troops would have been prohibitive, in all cases protected the internment camps from molestation and released numerous Dutch and Eurasian captives from the jail"

Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 21:55, 10 June 2019 (UTC).

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on June 11[edit]

Ernst Gerold Schramm

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 07:21, 18 June 2019 (UTC).

Pranesh Gautam

  • ... that the Nepalese stand-up comedian Pranesh Gautam went to jail after posting a satirical film review on YouTube? Source: [62]
  • Reviewed: soon

Created/expanded by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 11:33, 14 June 2019 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 12[edit]

Halimeda tuna

Halimeda tuna
Halimeda tuna
  • ... that a frond of the seaweed Halimeda tuna (pictured) consists of a single cell? Source: "During the 1950s when large numbers of deep boreholes were drilled into Pacific atolls, geologists found that the dominant element of the carbonate structure of these atolls was not stony coral but rather a lithified sand made up of the lobes of Halimeda. The members of this genus rank as one of the most important calcifiers of the biosphere; it is likely that their CaCO3 production over all tropical seas is considerably greater than that of the stony corals."
    • ALT1:... that when the seaweed Halimeda tuna (pictured) dies, it breaks down to form "sand"?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:46, 18 June 2019 (UTC).

2008 Universal fire

The UMG warehouse burns in 2008
The UMG warehouse burns in 2008

Created by Saginaw-hitchhiker (talk). Nominated by Daniel Case (talk) at 05:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC).

Assam Petro-Chemicals Limited

Moved to mainspace by Dharmadhyaksha (talk). Self-nominated at 04:41, 18 June 2019 (UTC).

Scarecrow Press historical dictionary series

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 23:36, 17 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, "hooky" enough. No significant copyvios detected by Earwig and QPQ is completed. G2G. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:02, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Wildlife of Ivory Coast, Brown-cheeked hornbill

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 08:42, 17 June 2019 (UTC).

Massacre in Ciepielów

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 07:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC).

Sharifian Solution

The three kings: Ali of Hijaz, Abdullah of Transjordan, Faisal of Iraq
The three kings: Ali of Hijaz, Abdullah of Transjordan, Faisal of Iraq

Created by Selfstudier (talk) and Onceinawhile (talk). Nominated by Onceinawhile (talk) at 12:05, 12 June 2019 (UTC).

Nozomi Nishida

  • ... that Japanese voice actress and singer Nozomi Nishida went on a study program in Denmark while in high school? Source: [63] ("西田:もともと、グリム童話とかアンデルセンみたいな児童文学が好きで、ああいう物語の舞台になっているような場所に行ってみたくて、語学留学しました。デンマークって北欧ならではの空気感があって、本当にゆったりした時間が流れているんですよね。もう、ただただ毎日が楽しくて。自転車でホストファミリーといろんなところに出かけるとか、日本ではできないような体験をしました。小さな子どもが好きだから、職業体験で幼稚園に行かせてもらったこともあって。金髪の子どもたち、かわいかった〜!")
    • ALT1:... that Japanese voice actress and singer Nozomi Nishida is fluent in Danish? Source: [64] (西田:それが、3ヶ月くらいすると急にポンッて理解できるようになるんです。他の留学生もみんな言っていて、私にも同じことが起こりました。もともと英語は苦手で、デンマーク語はゼロから学べたから、かえってラクだったのかなって思います。")

Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:04, 12 June 2019 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date, size, refs, copyvio, neutrality, all ok. But the hook is totally boring (nothing out of the ordinary), and neither is ALT1. I'd propose something less common, like that she became fluent in Danish because of her interest in European children literature, or that she worked as an idol in Akihabara, or that she was one of the voices of the Macross' Walkure fictional music group. Please ping me when alt hooks are ready for a review. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:10, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
I don't know, I don't think it's common for Japanese to know Danish right? And I don't know if a hook specifically focusing on Walkure would work for readers who are unfamiliar with Macross or anime ingeneral. Anyway, here are the requested ALTs (I'd still rather focus on the Denmark part, but if you don't think it's good enough for DYK, I'll try to propose new ALTs about other aspects of her life):
  • ALT2 ... that Japanese voice actress and singer Nozomi Nishida went on a study program in Denmark due to an interest in European children's literature?
  • ALT3 ... that Japanese voice actress and singer Nozomi Nishida initially wanted to pursue a study program in Germany, but ended up studying in Denmark due to a lack of slots?
Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew
  • @Narutolovehinata5: It's a bit of cultural clash - it's not common for an Asian person, but not particularly interesting to a European leader, and we want hooks that will be interesting to all of our readers. So what makes for a uprising hook on JPN wiki may be less useful for English. I will propose ALT4 and ALT5 below, which I find more interesting for a global audience, and let's have another reviewer chose the ones they like the best. In particular, it seems that the Walküre music group both existed in anime and in real life, but I have trouble finding sources for that, hence ALT6 is provisional as it is based on my quick glance through at Macross wikia, not a RS. I think that a hook about this would be quite interesting, much more so than which language she mastered, or where she went as an exchange student. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:58, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
I don't really like ALT5 and ALT6, they're both basically "voice actress voices a role" hooks, which aren't really great in my opinion. I'm more open to ALT4. Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Yeah, it might be a good idea to get another set of eyes here since you proposed new hooks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:03, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Desmond Barker