Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Alexander Bruce

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by SL93 (talk) 23:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Charles Alexander Bruce[edit]

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shpitalny Sh-37

Created/expanded by Darkness Shines (talk). Self nominated at 11:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC).

By whom? The book citation reads who may be rightly called the father of the Indian tea industry. This sounds like opinion piece of the scholars. The Legend of Zorro 12:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Do you guys have to follow me everywhere? It is not opinion as he is commonly called that, "C.A.Bruce without any doubt can be called the Father of the Tea Industry in India" Role of women workers in the tea industry of North East India p15 Darkness Shines (talk) 12:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
I have already de-watchlisted your talk page and only came here because you popped in my watchlist while editing Template talk:Did you know‎.
I do note that two academic sources call him pioneer. However I think a alternate hook "... that Charles Alexander Bruce, with his brother Robert first discovered the indigenous Assamese tea plant in 1837?" might be a better alternative. The Legend of Zorro 12:31, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
I do not care what you think, you are in constant conflict with me and I do not want you following my edits, the hook is cited and is fine, just leave me be. Darkness Shines (talk) 12:37, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
I cannot help if you see constant conflict everywhere. In any case that was a suggestion not a review. The Legend of Zorro 12:43, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
"... that Charles Alexander Bruce is considered one of the fathers of the tea industry in India?" Just throwing these out there as alternatives. Shearonink (talk) 14:38, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Article new enough, long enough, etc. However, I agree with the above concerns about the hook; there isn't any evidence that Bruce is commonly considered the father of the Indian tea industry. The suggested hook about his discovery of the Asammese tea plant would be more easily verifiable and (in my opinion) more interesting. So if someone wants to formally suggest that as an ALT... DoctorKubla (talk) 07:28, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
@DoctorKubla: Sorry but that would be false, his brother discovered the plant, he told Charles about it just before he died, and then Charles was the first to grow the plant in a nursery and get it accepted by the tea committee. And the hook is verifiable, in that he is considered the father of the tea industry in India. Other than the sources already given here are some more, Role of women workers in the tea industry of North East India p 14 "C.A.Bruce claimed to be the first European to have ventured into the deep tea forests of Upper Assam and is considered the Father of the Indian Tea Industry," Indian Railways, the final frontier: genesis and growth of the North-East Frontier Railwayp 33 "Charles Alexander Bruce, the Father of the Indian Tea Industry" The Brahmaputra p 177 "Charles Alexander Bruce, who can be called 'the father of the Indian tea industry." Darkness Shines (talk) 08:20, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg Well, alright. (About the Assamese tea plants, though, the article strongly implies that Charles Bruce helped discover them and got a medal for it. So if that's not true, it should be fixed.) DoctorKubla (talk) 15:31, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
Fixed, sorry about that, I was a little bit drunk when I wrote it Face-smile.svg Darkness Shines (talk) 15:51, 14 August 2013 (UTC)