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What station is this?[edit]

Location questions have been moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation/Unidentified locations.

Copyright[edit]

Comrades, is this picture permitted to be uploaded? It shows another picture exposed in a museum. Vcohen (talk) 15:41, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

What museum is this? (MTA downtown Brooklyn? 9/11?) Who owns the museum and what is their typical copyright policy? What article is it for and did you want to upload to commons or locally with an FUR?
re the photograph: Flickr currently says CC BY 2.0. Is there any reason to believe or disbelieve it was taken by that Flickr user? --Jeremyb (talk) 15:56, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
The museum is the National September 11 Memorial & Museum. The article is Survivors' Staircase. I am going to upload it to commons, but should like to be sure it is permitted. Vcohen (talk) 16:11, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
@Vcohen: Yes, it is permitted. CC-BY-2.0 is compatible with Commons. I'm assuming the image of the people within that picture is already free use. This is the 9/11 Museum, but I'm not sure about their copyright policy. Epic Genius (talk) 18:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
OK, thank you. I will try to upload it. Vcohen (talk) 18:56, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
File:Survivors Staircase photo in the museum.jpg
Evacuees descending the staircase in a photograph made on 9/11 and exposed near the staircase in the National 9/11 Museum
Done. Could you help me with my broken English? Vcohen (talk) 19:16, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
I've got another copyright question myself; Back in November I snapped some pics of the 167th Street (IRT Jerome Avenue Line) station, but there were two pictures there that I didn't add. One was a poster for the LIM College, which I saw at other stations, and was obviously not worth bothering with, and another was a poster by the NYS Tourist Info's "Path Through History" for the Grand Concourse Historic District. Would something like this be okay? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 19:29, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Sure, as long as you took it yourself and release it under the correct license. We should have a Commons equivalent of this page for copyright requests. Epic Genius (talk) 19:57, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Wait, how is everyone getting their information. There is a photo, presumably under typical copyright, in a private museum which also applies typical copyright. Who has evidence that this photo has a free license? Someone on Flickr took a photo of this non-free photo then put a CC license on their image, but that still does not avoid the copyright on the main photo. Everything associated with this photo should be deleted unless someone has proof that the original has a free license. Blue Rasberry (talk) 20:02, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Good point. However, a license reviewer already verified the license on Commons already. It should be somehow unverified. Epic Genius (talk) 20:14, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, the license reviewer is a bot that verifies the Flickr license only, not the whole story of the depicted content. That's why I asked this question here. Vcohen (talk) 20:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Ohhh. I get it now. Epic Genius (talk) 21:05, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Anyway, this photo is by Shannon Stapleton of Reuters, and was given by the PANYNJ to the 9/11 Museum as a courtesy. Her website's copyright states "Images © Shannon Stapleton and Reuters 2014." However, I am not sure of the current copyright status because it is now an image under the 9/11 Museum's purview. But if we are unaware of the copyright status of the other picture, we can assume that this work is probably not freely licensed or legally in the public domain. I'm still not sure, though. I don't see any copyrights in the picture shown in the Commons image. Epic Genius (talk) 21:19, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
This is Privacy Policy http://www.911memorial.org/privacy-policy for 9/11 memorial website. I think same copyright apply to all photographs. Martin Morin (talk) 21:36, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
That is for the website. I'm not sure it applies to printed photographs as well. Epic Genius (talk) 21:38, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
It almost never happens that museums collect the copyright of the photos they display. Owning and displaying a print is unrelated to acquiring the copyright. Unless someone has proof that this museum did something extremely unusual, then the photo is non-free. I am tagging it for deletion now. Blue Rasberry (talk) 23:03, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Another one. The formal license is OK. But still, is anything wrong? Vcohen (talk) 21:50, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

I don't see any other problems with this image. Epic Genius (talk) 14:04, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Many of that Flickr user (myrtle_avenue_brooklyn)'s images (including that one) are copyvios, apparently taken from forgotten-ny.com. The obviously false date is a tipoff. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 14:45, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Wow, I didn't recognize this at first. Definitely something not to upload (unless someone can contact Kevin Walsh about the use of his images on Wikimedia Commons). Epic Genius (talk) 15:49, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Thank you, Pi.1415926535. I knew you would know the answer. Vcohen (talk) 22:40, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
The staircase in the National 9/11 Museum

Here is a new attempt. This time it's the staircase only, without copyrighted photographs. Are museum exhibits permitted to be republished? The National September 11 Museum category does not contain images from the museum itself, I don't know why. Vcohen (talk) 18:08, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Weird old train[edit]

I saw a weird old train on the one line today showing the roll sign 20. The bullet was a gradient texture color with blue on the outer edges of the bullet and as you go to center the color became white. The 20 was in the back color. The train only consisted of five cars only. Boy did the train smell bad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talkcontribs) 18:26, 2 March 2015‎ (UTC)

Now I'm confused. Epic Genius (talk) 01:21, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Do not worry the train terminals it said was south ferry outer loop and the other terminal was, City Hall that is all I remember about that train. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talkcontribs) 03:38, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I almost thought you might've spotted something like this. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 14:09, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I think I know what was the intended purpose of the 20 line and why it does not exist today. It probably served a similar purpose of the bowling green shuttle which was to let south ferry station have a subway ser if that also goes on the eastern side of Manhattan. Also, I think around the time where the MTA stopped using double letters and double numbers I think that is when the bowling green shuttle service replaced the 20 line, and the reason why the bowling green shuttle service is no more can be seen on its Wikipedia page. Although it still counts as an unusual subway line service logo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talkcontribs) 17:50, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
So it was a white 20 in a circular blue bullet. Huh. Never saw that before. Although, I have never seen the 11 train either. (Also, 20 was never used on the IRT, and IRT rolling stock has no actual bullets over 13, but I think the BMT used up to 16.) Epic Genius (talk) 18:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Well, you probably know that every now and then, the MTA will experiment with unconventional numbers, like adding an 8 train to a 7 train on the IRT Flushing Line. I keep thinking this might've been the same deal. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 19:15, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
But the 8 was in the middle of the train. It is not uncommon to see the wrong route number on the rollsigns at the ends of the ends cars that are placed in the middle of the train. I think the MTA wanted to add a 8, a 10, and a 12 train to the IRT Lexington Avenue Line sometime in the past few decades. Epic Genius (talk) 21:16, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
Who knows they might have the train sent to the south ferry outer loop, every one gets out, set the tack switch to inner loop sending the train to bowling green. Who knows maybe after the new south ferry station gets fixed from sandy damage, they probably do not want the old station to just stand there and catch dust, so probably they are just testing if this new service is a good service.-----------------------------Doorknob747 00:05, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Look at this video you will not believe how many lines can this train go on, it can go on any line in the system almost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN4NY_6qMpU . Lol I did not know that the Q train was orange at one time. Also, I did not know that there was a orange s train and a yellow S train. Watch the video to see how long it takes to just show the not in service bullet. Doorknob747 00:16, 4 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talkcontribs)
You may want to read our article Manhattan Bridge Reconstruction for a history of all that. The Q was orange from 1988 to 2001, when it ran on the 6th Ave Line with the B, D, and F, before the 63rd Street Line was completed. Also, the R68 can only use BMT and IND trackage, so it can't "go any line in the system almost"... Epic Genius (talk) 03:40, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
Then what was the purpose for the yellow S service? Doorknob747 14:39, 4 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talkcontribs)
Temporary shuttle for the 63 St Line. Epic Genius (talk) 02:19, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
I saw the train again today, I looked for the name plate at the ends at the ends of the car. There were actually two or three plates, one said the original manufacturer with the manufacturer name scratched of, it said the train was a R40B prototype. Then there was another name plate I think that said framework reconstruction and it said R40B prototype converted to R48A proto type.It said the refurbishing was done by Morrison-Knudsen, and the framework reconstruction done by Alcoa inc. The date of the overhaul was scratched off. Doorknob747 02:26, 7 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talkcontribs)
Carry a camera phone. It can be worth thousands of words. Or a real camera. Jim.henderson (talk) 18:40, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Former MSBA terminals[edit]

I'm debating whether I should add places like the Mineola Intermodal Center and Rosa Parks Hempstead Transit Center to a new section on former MSBA/Long Island Bus transit center hubs to the Template:MTA RBO. Yay or Nay? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:37, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

@DanTD: I'd say Yay for that idea. These terminals used to be run as part of LI Bus until they came under NICE operation. Epic Genius (talk) 02:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Okay I did it. But now I'm considering adding three shopping malls in Nassau County that have been used as former Long Island Bus hubs, considering that we already have the Staten Island Mall there. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 17:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
@DanTD: If the SI Mall is in the navbox, then the shopping malls in Nassau County can probably also go there. Epic Genius (talk) 18:21, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Misidentified train[edit]

I just found out that somebody posted a train at Grand Central Terminal, which he misidentified as an M8. From what little I can see of the fleet number, it seems more like an M2.

"84... something, I can't see the rest of it.

On another topic, can we start to gather more images of M6's and create a commons gallery for it? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:03, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Just a little trivia that train looks like as if it was based of the design of the R46. Doorknob747 00:28, 18 March 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talkcontribs)
That is certainly an M2 216.165.95.66 (talk) 18:54, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

AirTrain LGA[edit]

An article seems to exist about the proposed AirTrain LGA. More sources and expansion may be needed. Epic Genius (talk) 02:35, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

This is real? I remember reading that Andrew Cuomo wants to make it happen, but I had no idea there were any serious plans to actually build the line. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:15, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
It's early in the process, but Cuomo does seem to want, pardon the pun, fast track it. As noted at one of the articles in the source, it would go right along an existing highway, with no private property needed to be taken at all. so it's probably not the hardest thing to build. But I agree with Epic that the article will likely need expansion over time. The current stub, however, pretty much says everything there is to say about it.
Now comes my only question: the article title. While people do know the airport code "LGA" for LaGuardia, it's not commonly used as shorthand for the airport like "JFK" is for Kennedy. I mention that, because while the AirTrain JFK is so named, the other system is AirTrain Newark, not "AirTrain EWR". In short, I think the "AirTrain LGA" name is made up and incorrect. Notably, while all sources use the AirTrain name, none use the exact article title to name it. oknazevad (talk) 11:05, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
@Oknazevad: OK. What will be an appropriate name for the article about this plan? Epic Genius (talk) 13:37, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Well, "AirTrain LaGuardia", in line with "AirTrain Newark". I've been looking to see if there's any sort of official name for this, and so far the answer is no. But either way, it seems that the use of LGA was chosen without regard to the lack of use as a common shorthand for the airport outside aviation fan circles. oknazevad (talk) 15:25, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done; I have moved the page accordingly. Epic Genius (talk) 17:07, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

LIRR East Side Access S-Line[edit]

I'm planning a new S-Line template for the LIRR City Terminal Zone leading to Grand Central Terminal, despite the fact that it's at least 5 years away from being completed. Should I call it Template:S-line/LIRR left/City East Side or Template:S-line/LIRR left/City Grand Central, or something else? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:33, 15 March 2015 (UTC)

@DanTD: How about Template:S-line/LIRR left/City Grand Central? Template:S-line/LIRR left/City Main, Template:S-line/LIRR left/City Montauk, and Template:S-line/LIRR left/City Atlantic are for the branches of the City Terminal Zone leading to Penn, LI City, and Atlantic Terminal stations, respectively. Epic Genius (talk) 15:38, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I tried it, and guess what; It's not working. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:57, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
@DanTD: I fixed the problem. The S-line/[System] [direction]/[station] templates take from the [System] stations template. Epic Genius (talk) 23:35, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
The colors are still wrong, the name of the line is still a redlink, and the opposite direction still shows up as broken. I expected it to be the same as all other City Terminal lines. I'll see if I can fix the latter problem myself, but I'm not holding my breath. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 23:55, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Nope. I still can't do anything with it. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 23:58, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Honestly, Dan, I really wouldn't rip my hair out over it. It's doesn't need to be done now, because, as you note, the line won't open for years, and frankly we may be using an entirely different template by then. I know you'd like to add it to the Grand Central article as a future service, but I don't think it should be, just as it's not included at the City Terminal Zone article. It's just too soon. It's not really a crystal ball situation because this has been under construction for years, and will at some point open, but between further schedule slips and not knowing what the future service patterns will be, it's just premature to worry about the s-line templates. oknazevad (talk) 00:27, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
@DanTD: I fixed the entire thing. You should try it now. If not, don't worry; ESA will not open in circa 8 years. Epic Genius (talk) 00:52, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Buzzing sound[edit]

What is the buzzing sound coming from the conductors cabin I sometimes hear when I am in the last car of the train? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doorknob747 (talkcontribs) 17:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

I honestly have no idea. Ask someone at NYC Transit Forums; they will probably know more about that. Epic Genius (talk) 15:18, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Subway fares[edit]

Can someone update the articles about New York City transit fares and MetroCard (New York City)? Fare increases to $2.75 go into effect tomorrow, but I don't have much time to edit nowadays. Epic Genius (talk) 23:06, 21 March 2015 (UTC)

Today at Columbus circle subway station[edit]

What happened here des any one know what happened here that the polikce had to come and what it looks like iss that they shut down the entrancees to the columbus circle subway station, I thnik they took care about it by now but does anyone know what happended?

Doorknob747 (talk) 17:33, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Nope, and it's not that important. Epic Genius (talk) 14:23, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
Doorknob, these sorts of questions would be better asked at a forum, not at a Wikipedia talk page, which are for coordinating improvements to the articles, not general discussion. See WP:NOTAFORUM. Feel free to ask about articles, or to make suggestions, but generally asking for real time answers to current events is not a good use of these pages. As for the actual events, smoke conditions on tracks due to litter happen all the time. It's why the MTA has vacuum trains, garbage trains, garbage cans and stiff fines for littering. In other words, it was Thursday. Not a big deal. oknazevad (talk) 18:48, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Missing stuff in the archive[edit]

Hey, I just noticed today that some discussion threads from around a year ago seem to have been lost, appearing neither in the archives for this page nor the archives for the unidentified locations subpage. Seems like the method of creating the subpage (moving the main project talk page to the subpage location and then copying over the more general threads replace the redirect) might have screwed up the archiving bot temporarily. It also makes edit history searches near impossible, unless someone realizes that the edit history for this page is now the edit history for the subpage. I was able to find the thread I had in mind here, but that's not the only thread missing from the archives, and the edit history of the page is all sorts of screwed up. Guess what I'm saying is the method created a need for a histmerge. Any admins watching here that can see about that and maybe do some archive fixing? oknazevad (talk) 18:48, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

I'm not an administrator, but I hope you don't mind if I move these messages in the proper archive page. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 21:26, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

Wi-fi connected stations[edit]

According to this page, over 100 underground NYC Subway stations now have wi-fi. A list is available here, but it is too tedious to look through because it's a service-by-service listing. It would be appreciated if the corresponding articles could be updated accordingly. Epic Genius (talk) 14:51, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

This is the list as is, without sorting and grouping. It includes less than 100 stations.
1
14th St. - 7th Ave.
18th St. - 7th Ave.
23rd St. - 7th Ave.
28th St. - 7th Ave.
42nd St. - Times Square
50th St. - Broadway
59th St. - Columbus Circle
66th St. - Broadway (Lincoln Center)
72nd St. - Broadway
79th St. - Broadway
86th St. - Broadway
96th St. - Broadway
2
14th St. - 7th Ave.
42nd St. - Times Square
72nd St. - Broadway
96th St. - Broadway
3
14th St. - 7th Ave.
42nd St. - Times Square
72nd St. - Broadway
96th St. - Broadway
4
Grand Central - 42 St.
5
Grand Central - 42 St.
6
23rd St. - Park Ave.
28th St. - Park Ave.
33rd St. - Park Ave.
Grand Central - 42 St.
7
Times Square - 42nd St.
Grand Central - 42nd St.
5th Ave. - 42nd St.
A
14th St. - 8th Ave.
23rd St. - 8th Ave.
42nd St. - Port Authority
59th St. - Columbus Circle
C
14th St. - 8th Ave.
23rd St. - 8th Ave.
42nd St. - Port Authority
50th St. - 8th Ave.
59th St. - Columbus Circle
72nd St. - Central Park West
81st St. - Museum of Natural History
86th St. - Central Park West
96th St. - Central Park West
E
14th St. - 8th Ave.
23rd St. - 8th Ave.
42nd St. - Port Authority
50th St. - 8th Ave.
5th Ave. - 53rd St.
7th Ave. - 53rd St.
B
34 St. - Herald Square
42nd St. - Bryant Park
47-50th Sts. - Rockefeller Center
59th St. - Columbus Circle
72nd St. - Central Park West
7th Ave. - 53rd St.
81st St. - Museum of Natural History
86th St. - Central Park West
96th St. - Central Park West
D
34 St. - Herald Square
42nd St. - Bryant Park
47-50th Sts. - Rockefeller Center
7th Ave. - 53rd St.
59th St. - Columbus Circle
F
14th St. - 6th Ave.
23rd St.
34 St. - Herald Square
42nd St. - Bryant Park
47-50th Sts. - Rockefeller Center
57th St. - 6th Ave.
M
23rd St.
14th St. - 6th Ave.
47-50th Sts. - Rockefeller Center
5th Ave. - 53rd St.
N
34 St. - Herald Square
23rd St. - Broadway
28th St. - Broadway
Times Square - 42nd St.
49th St. - 7th Ave.
57th St. - 7th Ave. (Midtown)
5th Ave. - 59th St.
Q
34 St. - Herald Square
Times Square - 42nd St.
57th St. - 7th Ave. (Midtown)
R
34 St. - Herald Square
23rd St. - Broadway
28th St. - Broadway
Times Square - 42nd St.
49th St. - 7th Ave.
57th St. - 7th Ave. (Midtown)
5th Ave. - 59th St.
L
6th Ave. - 14th St.
8th Ave. - 14th St.
S
Grand Central Shuttle
Times Square Shuttle - 42nd St.
Vcohen (talk) 06:30, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
This is an attempt of grouping. The total number is 47.
1+2+3
14th St. - 7th Ave.
18th St. - 7th Ave.
23rd St. - 7th Ave.
28th St. - 7th Ave.
42nd St. - Times Square
50th St. - Broadway
59th St. - Columbus Circle
66th St. - Broadway (Lincoln Center)
72nd St. - Broadway
79th St. - Broadway
86th St. - Broadway
96th St. - Broadway
4+5+6
23rd St. - Park Ave.
28th St. - Park Ave.
33rd St. - Park Ave.
Grand Central - 42 St.
7
Times Square - 42nd St.
Grand Central - 42nd St.
5th Ave. - 42nd St.
S
Grand Central Shuttle
Times Square Shuttle - 42nd St.
A+C+E
14th St. - 8th Ave.
23rd St. - 8th Ave.
42nd St. - Port Authority
50th St. - 8th Ave.
59th St. - Columbus Circle
72nd St. - Central Park West
81st St. - Museum of Natural History
86th St. - Central Park West
96th St. - Central Park West
5th Ave. - 53rd St.
7th Ave. - 53rd St.
B+D+F+M
14th St. - 6th Ave.
23rd St.
34 St. - Herald Square
42nd St. - Bryant Park
47-50th Sts. - Rockefeller Center
57th St. - 6th Ave.
N+Q+R
34 St. - Herald Square
23rd St. - Broadway
28th St. - Broadway
Times Square - 42nd St.
49th St. - 7th Ave.
57th St. - 7th Ave. (Midtown)
5th Ave. - 59th St.
L
6th Ave. - 14th St.
8th Ave. - 14th St.
Vcohen (talk) 06:43, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
This source seems to cover Manhattan only... Vcohen (talk) 06:48, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
I saw that, and sadly it's true. Does this mean no stations in the outer boroughs have Wi-Fi? And why don't the stations near Penn Station have them? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:14, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
We know that there are more than 100 stations with wi-fi, it means that this list is not complete. I hope they will fix it. Vcohen (talk) 13:25, 6 April 2015 (UTC)
@Vcohen: Thank you for compiling the list. @DanTD: It seems that they are doing outer borough stations right now. In fact, Graybar was supposed to install cell service in 29 Queens stations by the end of 2014. Epic Genius (talk) 14:06, 6 April 2015 (UTC)

Wow! The answer is nearer than we thought it to be. The MTA site says: "The first two phases included stations in Midtown Manhattan and all underground stations in Queens with the exception of the 7 Main St terminal." How many underground stations are there in Queens? Vcohen (talk) 20:08, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Well, you've got the three on the Archer Avenue Line, three others on the IRT Flushing Line, including Main Street, 21st Street – Queensbridge (IND 63rd Street Line), which makes seven, Long Island City – Court Square, and 21st Street on the IND Crosstown Line, that's nine, and 21 on the IND Queens Boulevard Line, so 30. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 02:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Okay, this leaves the obvious question; when are they going to give the Brooklyn subway stations Wi-Fi? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:42, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Maybe next year? Epic Genius (talk) 16:11, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
This is a full list of Phase I and II stations. Epic Genius (talk) 16:14, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Right now, we are in phase 3. Brooklyn stations won't get Wi-Fi installed until phase 5, next year. Source Epic Genius (talk) 19:07, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
I don't think it's a good idea to put links directly in articles. This way, if a link changes, we have to edit all these articles again. The template exists to support link updates by one edit. Vcohen (talk) 16:27, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
OK, then we could put the refs within a #switch: function in {{Infobox NYCS}}, then fix the | wifi_custom_ref parameter in the individual articles to have an input like "ref 1", "ref 1,2", etc. Anyway, the new refs that are directly in the articles are for the installation of wi-fi. Epic Genius (talk) 17:54, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, "ref 1,2" etc. is approximately what I meant. I will try to change the template and articles. Vcohen (talk) 18:40, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
...canceled. I see your new edits, you have caught it before me. Vcohen (talk) 19:23, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
HEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where is 67th AVENUE in queens? it has wifi!
Psst, right here. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 16:35, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, so anyway, the infoboxes of the 29 stations in Queens and 36 stations in Manhattan that have Wi-Fi are now marked with a |wifi=yes parameter. Epic Genius (talk) 15:22, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Problem discovered, 67Avenue has both Wifi and the station also added Verizon Wireless cellphone service. Same with columbus circle station. separate parameter requested for wireless and wifi, terms are intermingling. Doorknob747 (talk) 21:03, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Fulton Center[edit]

Hello all. I have found and added two Street View spheres to the Fulton Center article. I'd like to give them different titles. As far as I see, they represent two different floors/levels of the Center, but I don't know their correct names. Vcohen (talk) 10:25, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Pic 1 is the second basement level, Pic 2 is the first level directly under the ground. Epic Genius (talk) 14:23, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Is it possible to shorten these names? Vcohen (talk) 16:01, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
Not that I know of, no. The MTA doesn't give any official level numbers for these floors.Epic Genius (talk) 12:46, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
OK. I hope my edit is correct. Vcohen (talk) 13:29, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Yes, it is correct. Epic Genius (talk) 13:36, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Mileage dispute at Mount Kisco Metro-North station[edit]

The article for Mount Kisco (Metro-North station) says that it's 36.5 miles from Grand Central Terminal, and the MTA's website says the same thing. However, as I and many other photographers have shown, an old New York Central Railroad sign claims the distance is 36.7 miles to Grand Central. So, was there some improvement project since the NYC period that cut down on that extra 0.2 miles or is/was there an error on the part of the MTA or NYC? -------User:DanTD (talk) 22:26, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

Or maybe the MTA measured the distance to the beginning of the platforms while NYC measured it to 42nd Street, past the end of the platforms but at a station entrance. Epic Genius (talk) 13:16, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
Hmm... I did not think of that. While we're at it, isn't there a specific category for such signs in the commons? -------User:DanTD (talk) 20:33, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
I don't know. Is there? I don't spend too much time there. Epic Genius (talk) 00:08, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
The old sign says 36.7 miles to NY, despite the fact that Metro-North says 36.5 miles. What gives?


Help in putting these images where they belong.[edit]

I do not know where to place these images that I uploaded. Also, I need help in adding categories to those images. More images and even a few videos to come! I do not mind if you guys rename image!

I lost the photo of that weird R48 1 train i was talking about. I was going to upload it today.  :( Doorknob747 (talk) 00:37, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

That was way too easy. I'll decide on the renaming later, if someone else doesn't get them first. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 02:00, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
Found some more images that need a home.

Those images are also uncategorized. Doorknob747 (talk) 05:01, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Just a question, is there a article on the new help point machines that the MTA is now installing on every station?[edit]

Is there a article on the new help point machines that the MTA is now installing on every station?

A help point machine from left
Looking directly ata help point machine

Doorknob747 (talk) 04:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

what article should this be added too?[edit]

see full description of video of what it is about!Doorknob747 (talk) 03:22, 16 April 2015 (UTC)


Help with talk page redirect needed.[edit]

Can someone hear teach me how to redirect a talk page of a article to another articles talk page. I want to redirect Talk: NYCT subway to the talk page of the article that NYCT subway redirects to. Doorknob747 (talk) 03:20, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

It is invoked using #redirect [[Talk:New York City Subway]], but this is totally unnecessary. Epic Genius (talk) 12:36, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Wasn't the R46 armrest image notable?[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Beyond_My_Ken&oldid=656948986

@Doorknob747: I have to agree with BMK this time. Many trains have armrests. It would be more meaningful to take a picture of the whole car. Epic Genius (talk) 20:49, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
@Epic Genius:  :D how about a video of a R160 R train that is entering and leaving the station? Also the audio clip of it announcing the stops? I have it on my phone but did not upload it yet? Should I or should I not? Also, about that without edit, a admin approved it a few seconds after I created, and another admin wants to delete it? Am I jinxed or are admins fooling around with me?Doorknob747 (talk) 20:53, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
Was that on Wikimedia Commons? It has a different policy than Wikipedia does. Epic Genius (talk) 20:56, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
@Epic Genius: What on wikicomons? the redirect was in Wikipedia, and I have not uploaded audio or videos yet?Doorknob747 (talk) 20:59, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
You know, you can use that picture as a reference link. It doesn't necessarily have to be posted. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:14, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

Video that Epicgenius told me was ok to upload on wikicommons[edit]

A R160 R train leaving station

I was wondering if this video should or should not go on the R160 article or the R train article?Doorknob747 (talk) 04:50, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

It's not a reliable source, so it can go in neither. However, you can place this video on Commons. Epic Genius (talk) 00:37, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
Can it be placed on R160 as a R160 leaving a station in general terms (nothing to do with the R train?)? Doorknob747 (talk) 02:39, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
In the gallery, yes, but be advised against putting too many images in the gallery. Epic Genius (talk) 22:20, 19 April 2015 (UTC)