Template talk:Birth date

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Template-protected edit request on 12 June 2016[edit]

Hello, (ping Izno, Jonesey95, Andy M. Wang)

I raised the idea at WP:VPT and there seemed to be general consensus support for the Template:Birth date/sandbox edits. If people are happy with this, I may also suggest analogous edits to {{death date}} etc.
There also seemed to be some additional suggestions of a complete date overhaul which is a little beyond the scope of this edit request.

T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 01:47, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Not sure if I can read the consensus from the section, but I wouldn't object to the request (including {{Death date}}, not including {{Birth date and age}}, etc). Overhaul is out of scope. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 02:44, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
@Evolution and evolvability: Do you think {{Start date}} and {{End date}} are in scope for this? (A good navbox for context is Template:Birth, death and age templates.) Now, I personally think that the change proposed should roll out to {{Birth date and age}}, {{Birth based on age as of date}}, {{Death date and age}}, and a whole class of templates in that navbox, which needs far greater visibility and consensus (perhaps with an RfC). If not, it would puzzle some editors that the functionality suggested works here and not some similar template. Since some of these templates are fully-cascade-protected (like {{Birth date and age}}), this rollout isn't something a TE will be able to do. Sorry, not done for now. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 04:51, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
@Andy M. Wang: Thank you for the explanation. Do you have a suggestion what would be a sensible next step? T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)talk 05:09, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
@Evolution and evolvability: The fastest way may be to ask a familiar admin in this area... maybe a regular at VPT, or folks who commented there when you mentioned this. I would mention the individual templates to be updated. My own suggestion is, at least (possibly at most? (not sure)) "Birth date", "Birth date and age", "Death date", and "Death date and age" because of your {{Infobox person}} use case. Another way for broad visibility would be a new RfC post (with {{rfc|tech|prop}}) at the WP:VPR page, which would take a month I think. Again, the template update scope should be pretty clear by the time that happens.
But something to keep in mind is whether this YYYYMMDD convenience (with respect to the {{Infobox person}} use case) is honestly worth the change. Hope this helps, and feel free to keep me in the loop. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 05:32, 13 June 2016 (UTC)