Template talk:Calculation results
This talk page is empty, so hopefully the discussion isn't somewhere else. Assuming that it's here, here is what I just did and why, as well as what I'd like to do but didn't:
- ‘modulo’ isn't even a noun, so it can't be correct there; I used ‘remainder’. Arguably this operation should also use ‘modulus’ instead of ‘divisor’, but I'm uncertain, so I didn't change that. Both are correct; the question is which is better.
- While the terminology for the logarithm was also technically correct, it's like writing ‘sum’ for ‘minuend’ and vice versa. So I put in alternative terminology which I think is definitely more appropriate. There might be something better than ‘antilogarithm’, but I'm sure that ‘logarithm’ is the best word where I put it.
- There ought to be better terms than ‘nth root’ and ‘logarithm’ as names of the operations themselves; they are really names of the results of the operations. We need terms that are analogous to ‘addition’, when instead we have terms that are analogous to ‘sum’. However, I don't know anything other than ‘taking roots’ and ‘taking logarithms’, which seem kind of silly, so I didn't change anything there.
- What about “root extraction” (and maybe “logarithmation” if we also speak of “modulation”)? -- Zygmunt Zzzyzzyzkoff (talk) 18:02, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
Multiplicand and multiplier
Interestingly, this template shows “multiplicand × multiplier”, while I see the reverse (“multiplier × multiplicand”) elsewhere. I personally think this might be related to how you pronounce it. Considering the meanings of words, it is natural to say “multiplier times multiplicand”, but “multiplicand multiplied by multiplier”.
People normally pronounce “×” as “times” today, and people probably should also write only “multiplicand”. This avoids the problem :-).
- I was also confused. But according to the Common Core State Standards Initiative, product = multiplier * multiplicand, not multiplicand * multiplier. And since people also normally pronounce “×” as “times” today, I changed the template accordingly. --Neo-Jay (talk) 03:39, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
- And I found a reference: "With multiplication you have a multiplicand (written second) multiplied by a multiplier (written first)." See Keith Devlin (January 2011). "What Exactly is Multiplication?". Retrieved October 30, 2015. --Neo-Jay (talk) 15:18, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
About centering the text
Changes on 14 June 2016
I made two changes today (separate edits) to this template:
1. I added two alternate but valid terms for the result of a division operation:
- The most correct name in mathematics for one quantity divided by another is a "rational expression" but this can and often is shortened to simply "ratio".
- The most common name used in mathematics (by the general population) for a rational number is to call it a "fraction".
All of 3 these terms are correct names for the result of a division operation, and should be displayed here just as we display alternate terms (dividend -vs- numerator, divisor -vs- denominator) for the other side of the equation.
2. I changed "Modulation" to "Modulo" for several reasons:
- I looked extensively and could find no reliable mathematical reference that calls this operation a "modulation".
- The word "modulation" does not appear anywhere in the modulo operation article.
- The word "modulo" does not appear anywear in the modulation article.
- There is no WP:DAB definition for modulation pointing to the modulo operation article.
In short this usage of the word modulation is UNVERIFIABLE and therefor is challenged and removed per WP:V.
PS: I also added a vertical spacer to the Division section in-between the two frac expressions to make them easier to read. Koala Tea Of Mercy (KTOM's Articulations & Invigilations) 02:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
Renaming this Template?
The current name of this template is "Calculation results". However, I argue a name such as "Lexicon of elementary arithmetic operations" might be more correct and to the point? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verheyen Vincent (talk • contribs) 00:35, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
This template is really big and bulky, especially on mobile. It seems that the "broad sense" and "strict sense" create much of the bulk I propose removing these as: 1. Anyone seeing the two equations "augend+addend" and "addend+addend" will realize that addend can be used multiple ways, and 2. It's a small, pedantic point to make, especially for a template used on basic articles.Brirush (talk) 22:34, 23 September 2016 (UTC)