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InChI & Main hazards[edit]

Hello,

Two questions.

First, is there any site where you can get InChI's? And I don't mean standard InChI's. If you go to ChemSpider or PubChem, they use the standard ones. If you draw a compound in ChemDraw and let it look for its InChI, it gives you the standard one. I don't know about other software out there, but do you really have to use the software from InChI Trust?

And second, what actually goes in the MainHazards field? Is it obligatory? What kind of reference should you use? I was editing pyridinium chlorochromate, and its MainHazards field is filled. But ammonia doesn't have it.

Please use {{Reply to}}. Thanks! Georginho (talk) 10:41, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

@Georginho: |MainHazards= is not obligatory. The opposite: it should only be used when the hazards are major. Listing minor also-hazards makes the infobox unncecessary long (the same for most other parameters). re pyridinium chlorochromate: don't know, but it looks to me that its hazards are not overwhelming. For example, none of these hazards are mentioned in the lede (compare DDT). Also, because the hazards are or should be present in the specific hazard data (eg as pictograms), the current MainHazards input may be redundant. -DePiep (talk) 11:04, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
@Georginho: personally I think that |MainHazards= should be deprecated in favor of |GHSSignalWord= as the Signal Word appears in modern SDS forms. --Project Osprey (talk) 19:53, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
@DePiep: @Project Osprey: Thanks! Yeah, I don't see anything major about PCC compared to other chemicals. I think I'll probably leave carcinogenicity and aquatic toxicity in the box per the SDS.
I also think that although GHSSignalWord appears in SDS's, its use shouldn't be obligatory either. Putting "Danger" in the box for PCC, for example, doesn't say much.
Cheers! Georginho (talk) 18:35, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
Great. Hope you find something about InChI too ;-). re Project Osprey: maybe in a few weeks or months time we should clean this up into modern SDS format then. -DePiep (talk) 18:41, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Chemical formula: now accepts D= for deuterium[edit]

See Template_talk:Infobox_drug#Deuterium_in_the_chemical_formula. Also used in molar mass calculation. -DePiep (talk) 20:57, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

The current chembox does not show the footer (the footer starting with "Except where...") iff the article has a data page (e.g. ethanol does not have a footer because of Ethanol (data page) vs. Cobalt(II) chloride has a footer because of Cobalt(II) chloride (data page)). It is fixed by adding a new line before the template call of the footer template. It has been tested by adding chembox/sandbox for ethanol and cobalt(II) chloride in preview. The testcases doesn't show any problems either.

And the current chembox forget to call the {{Chembox Supplement}} template with the parameter {{{data page pagename}}} e.g. the folowing dosn't work: {{Chembox | data page pagename=Ammonia (data page) |Section1={{Chembox Supplement }} }} gives

Chemical infobox
Supplementary data page
Refractive index (n),
Dielectric constantr), etc.
Thermodynamic
data
Phase behaviour
solid–liquid–gas
UV, IR, NMR, MS
Except where otherwise noted, data are given for materials in their standard state (at 25 °C [77 °F], 100 kPa).
Infobox references

The sandbox version fix this:

Chemical infobox
Supplementary data page
Refractive index (n),
Dielectric constantr), etc.
Thermodynamic
data
Phase behaviour
solid–liquid–gas
UV, IR, NMR, MS
Except where otherwise noted, data are given for materials in their standard state (at 25 °C [77 °F], 100 kPa).
Infobox references

The version [1] should replace template:Chembox Christian75 (talk) 13:31, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Done GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 18:01, 20 July 2016 (UTC)