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Do we need db-p1?[edit]

Moved to Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Do we need db-p1?

rationale parameter[edit]

When placing a multiple nomination today via Twinkle, I noticed that the template does not allow for multiple rationales to be entered. Twinkle doesn't know this and just puts multiple "rationale=" parameters into the template, and the template just repeats the last one for all of the criteria. The edit is here but of course may be deleted by the time you read this. Can this be fixed to allow multiple rationales? Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:14, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh, this is regarding the {{db-multiple}} template. I didn't realize the talk page redirected here. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 14:15, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Hmm, to do this properly would require updating both db-multiple and Twinkle. At the moment db-multiple doesn't support multiple rationales, and even if it did, Twinkle wouldn't automatically use them. Which is not to say that it can't be done, just that it needs to be a concerted effort. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 15:15, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
For those unable to view the deleted edit, the added markup was {{db-multiple|G6|rationale=No such user.|G7|rationale=Botched page move; see [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2015 July 25#User:Sesotho kinship]]}}
@Ivanvector: It's not that the template (whether {{db-meta}} or {{db-multiple}}) is ignoring multiple |rationale= parameters, it's because of the way that the MediaWiki template parser works. If you use the same named parameter more than once (even if they have different values), all are ignored except the last one, this is normal behaviour for all templates. During preview, you get the message "Warning: (pagename) is calling Template:(templatename) with more than one value for the "(parametername)" parameter. Only the last value provided will be used."; if you save it, the page is put in Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:01, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Google News Search[edit]

The Google news search function appears to be broken:
Result: news
Any idea if this is the toolserver? Just me? Could we just change it to:
[https://www.google.com/search?#q={{PAGENAME}}&tbm=nws news]
Result: news
I'm not sure of the details of how this would affect it. Jujutacular (talk) 02:21, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Any wikilink beginning tools: is toolserver, which has been permanently down for fourteen months. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
I see! Obviously I'm a bit out of the loop. Do we see any issues with changing to the code I proposed? Jujutacular (talk) 11:15, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
The redirector was a hack to prevent triggering spam blacklists, as I recall. There's a discussion about this... somewhere. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:11, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Template:db-author and non-free content[edit]

Opinions are needed on the following matter: Wikipedia talk:Non-free content#Template:db-author and non-free content. A WP:Permalink for it is here. Flyer22 (talk) 18:17, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

db-a10 with multiple articles[edit]

{{db-a10}} explicitly references the possibility of flagged article being a duplicate of "existing article(s) on the subject", but I can't see any way to list multiple articles here. (Have been attempting to flag Microphone, speaker, megaphone, telephone, clearly a duplication of four different articles one after the other.) Is there an undocumented trick I'm missing? --McGeddon (talk) 09:52, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Rename to "rsd" - "request for speedy deletion"?[edit]

"Rsd" seems a little more intuitive than "db" ("delete because"). The template comes up with "This template may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion...". I already created {{rsd}} as a redirect to here. What does everyone think? Facts707 (talk) 08:13, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

I assume you are talking about {{db}}. The most intuitive redirect to {{db}} is in my opinion {{delete}}. I am not convinced we need more. —Kusma (t·c) 08:32, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Here is the list of redirects to {{db}}. —Kusma (t·c) 12:19, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Why go through an external site when you don't need to? --Redrose64 (talk) 16:36, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Good point. Should we remove that unnecessary link from the WhatLinksHere page or at least mention that it does not do more than the engine can do already? —Kusma (t·c) 09:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Rsd as a redirect seems fine. A rename I would strongly oppose. Db as the beginning of the names of speedy deletion templates (195 of them – though that includes doc subpages and the like]), is ingrained in the culture here and everyday working knowledge of vast numbers of users, and is linked or referred to in thousands of other places.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:42, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Also, the {{db}} template isn't really intended for general use - if you can't find a suitably-specific template among the dozens listed at WP:CSD, the chances are that the page doesn't qualify for speedy deletion anyway. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:36, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I see {{delete|some reason}} being sometimes used by experienced editors from other wikis who see something that needs deleting but do not bother to find out what process they should use for it here (and local admins here can then use the appropriate process), so I think it is very useful to have a freeform deletion template. —Kusma (t·c) 09:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Commons does have c:Template:Delete but it's a parallel of our {{ffd}}. Every time that I've come across {{delete}} being used on English Wikipedia, it's on a file description page - and none of the WP:CSD#Files criteria were applicable. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:52, 22 September 2015 (UTC)