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Do we need db-p1?[edit]

Moved to Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Do we need db-p1?

Db-a9 clarification[edit]

In addition to "where no artists have an article", that text should also include "or where the artist's article is itself tagged for speedy deletion for lacking notability". GSMR (talk) 14:28, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

@GSMR: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit template-protected}} template. The text you proposed doesn't agree with WP:A9, so you should get consensus to change that wording before we change the template. --Ahecht (TALK
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Subcategorisation of db-a2 and a5[edit]

I just noticed that {{db-a2}} and {{db-a5}} do not have their own subcategory in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion#Subcategories. Should they not have one (or two) as well? - HyperGaruda (talk) 09:26, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Broken button on {{Db-g12}} - "Contest this speedy deletion" doesn't put a hold on the speedy deletion.[edit]

The {{Db-g12}} template prominently displays a button, "Contest this speedy deletion" that doesn't work as I would expect. I expect that when I click it because I think "a page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion", clicking should, among other things, "remove this notice". It doesn't do so. It should do so. After all the template instructs me: If I think "a page does not meet the criteria for speedy deletion", I should "remove this notice"! Agreed? IIRC, similar templates work or worked that way. Suggestions/help?--Elvey(tc) 01:08, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

No, you don't recall correctly. The button's meant for the page creator, who's forbidden from removing speedy deletion templates (with a couple trivial exceptions, like {{db-g7}}.) If it's not a page you created you should, as the instructions say, remove that notice, not click on the button. —Cryptic 01:18, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Ok. I see that now. Thanks for correcting me. The formatting of the page is poor; IMO the "Contest this speedy deletion" link should merely appear inline, in the sentence directed at creators.--Elvey(tc) 06:14, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
@Elvey: It's intentionally prominent, that's why it's not inline. The button was added in this edit, prior to which people were avised to use the {{hang on}} template, like this. Much less noticeable, and indeed, often misused.
The action of the button is to start a new section on the talk page. It has a section heading "Contested deletion" and pre-filled text "This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --~~~~" which the user is expected to amend (sensibly) and save. When admins find a page in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion, they should check the talk page before deletion, to see if there are any valid posts that might make the speedy template inapplicable. For example, if a page in article space gets tagged {{db-short}} just a few minutes after creation, the creator might use the button to say "This page should not be speedily deleted because I am working on an offline draft which I am just about to paste in." --Redrose64 (talk) 08:35, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, admins need to check but are they consistently instructed to? Not so much. Were that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Criteria_for_speedy_deletion#Procedure_for_administrators made it clear that the talk page needed to be checked. At least it touches on the idea. I don't see the instructions in the template or at Category:Candidates for speedy deletion doing even that. But if that's the way folks like it, so be it.--Elvey(tc) 10:08, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
The instructions show up in prominent green lettering on the template when the talk page exists. It's kind of hard to miss. (Though it occurs to me to wonder how it looks to the colorblind.) —Cryptic 10:21, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
True. --Elvey(tc) 17:11, 21 September 2016 (UTC)