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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
December 12 5 5
December 19 1
December 24 1
December 26 1 1
December 31 1
January 7 1
January 9 1
January 10 1
January 14 2
January 16 2
January 18 2 1
January 19 1
January 26 1
January 27 2 1
January 28 2 1
January 29 1
January 30 5 1
January 31 3 2
February 1 3 2
February 2 3 2
February 3 1 1
February 4 3 3
February 5 1
February 6 8 6
February 7 9 3
February 8 9 7
February 9 11 11
February 10 3 2
February 11 5 5
February 12 4 3
February 13 11 8
February 14 3 3
February 15 18 11
February 16 12 5
February 17 13 4
February 18 22 13
February 19 15 8
February 20 11 6
February 21 14 5
February 22 10 3
February 23 4
February 24 8 1
Total 234 124
Last updated 22:10, 24 February 2021 UTC
Current time is 23:01, 24 February 2021 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
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To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.

Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]


This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.


Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on December 19[edit]


  • ... that the artificial intelligence program GPT-2 can summarize, respond to, generate, and even translate human-level writing, despite being trained to do nothing more than predict the next word in a sequence? Source: OpenAI paper, ref in article
    • ALT1: ... that the GPT-2 artificial intelligence can summarize, respond to, generate, and translate text on a human level, despite being trained to do nothing more than predict the next word in a sequence? Source: OpenAI paper, ref in article
      • ALT2: ... that the GPT-2 artificial intelligence can summarize, respond to, generate, and translate text, despite being trained to do nothing more than predict the next word in a sequence? Source: OpenAI paper, ref in article

5x expanded by JPxG (talk). Self-nominated at 17:25, 26 December 2020 (UTC).

Going to be a harsh review because I think it's important we get this topic right.

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - Under "Architecture", the last paragraph is lacking citations, as is the last sentence of the first paragraph.
  • Neutral: Red XN - I have some concerns. Claims that GPT-2 "often" passes the Turing test (implied with an Easter egg link) is not implausible, but it's such a high-impact claim that I think it needs secondary sources to show that this is accepted within the field. Throughout the article I do have concerns that the prose is parrotting primary claims a little bit without the appropriate prose attribution of viewpoint, or sounding a bit too much like a pitch to investors ("While its objective is simple", "GPT-2 became capable of performing well"). A copyediting run with this in mind should solve it—most claims could be toned down or attributed, the alternative being more academic secondary sources.
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - "Scale-up" and "tokenization" are dab links. When it comes to the lead image, can you explain to me why it's freely licensed? Screenshots are not in general, of course, and while lots of OpenAI content might be open-source, all I see on this specific website is a "© 2020 InferKit".
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Hook is interesting and its claims are uncontroversial enough for the primary source to be fine. It would be good if the article could mention the stages of source code release—am I right that all the code is now released? Or just some? But of course, the researchers initially had concerns. Possibly the topic is not quite D7 "complete" without some description of the source code releases. — Bilorv (talk) 23:02, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate the brutality. Truth be told, I was planning to write an article at least twice this size (if not more); the technical background took me longer than I anticipated, and I ended up getting buttonholed by IRL goings-on halfway through. There is definitely a lot of stuff that ought to be in there, and isn't; I was contemplating just doing it when I got back home, but I was running out of time to submit a DYK! OpenAI's claims are, indeed, wild and outrageous, but there are a lot of secondary sources to back them up (and, for a while at least, it was possible to go try it out yourself on a few websites and get your mind blown in real time). I don't know when I will have time to go through and put those sources in, but I can try to carve out some time in the next couple days. As for the image, well, TalkToTransformer is currently part of some gee-whiz startup, but prior to that I believe it had different licensing information (will try to find it for you). Would be an interesting quandary to figure out whether GPT-2 holds copyright to its own works, huh? Anyway, I have to do some stuff tonight but I will try to get started on all this crap tomorrow. And thanks for the review! jp×g 00:37, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
No worries, often getting a foothold can be the hardest part and I'll give you a few days, know it's a busy time of year for many. — Bilorv (talk) 14:47, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
@JPxG: at the one week mark, I see you've not really been active since but since the problems could take a while to fix, I think I'll have to fail this in a few days unless you can find a time in your schedule to commit to resolving the above. Either way I hope the comments are useful for the article's future progress. — Bilorv (talk) 01:34, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Have got some free time today, will finish it off. jp×g 15:28, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
@JPxG: I'll give you 24 hours but after that I think I'll have to fail this, sorry. — Bilorv (talk) 23:47, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
Okay, adding the relevant sections now. jp×g 23:48, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Unfortunately, I'm going to have to fail this. It's been an additional 24 hours and improvements have been made, but I believe there are still neutrality issues that are a barrier to showing this on the main page. I hope the feedback is useful and would look forward to future development of the topic. — Bilorv (talk) 23:37, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
@Bilorv: I've added some more citations to the claims you mentioned above (like its output being plausibly interpreted as human, which most of the sources support, and which I've clarified in the lede suffers on longer passages); I'm not sure what action can be taken to give it more neutrality. In your initial review you mentioned phrases like "its objective is simple" sounding like an investor pitch. The reason for this specific phrasing is because, well, its objective was simple: unlike previous ML models measured on the same benchmarks (which often involved extensive task-specific fine-tuning), GPT-2 was not reinforced on its performance on any task other than text prediction. That is to say, during its training, it was not assessed on any metrics for machine translation or summarization; similarly, "perform well" is based on things like its performance on the WMT-14 French-English test set on which it achieved 11.5 BLEU (comparable or superior to other unsupervised translation models, but unlike them, it contained only 10MB of untranslated French in its training corpus). jp×g 02:05, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
We've still got the Easter egg link asserting that the model "sometimes" passes the Turing test, which would need explanation in prose in the body with attribution of this view. I didn't hear back on that licensing point. At the time I wrote the above, there were still uncited parts and none of this WMT-14 evidence in prose (which is absolutely a great improvement). I'm not happy to extend this review indefinitely, after setting a hard time limit that was not met after quite some leeway. I will reluctantly call for a new review if you insist on this. — Bilorv (talk) 16:41, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Okay, back again today. I've never had a DYK fail before so I am going to do my best on this one. jp×g 00:13, 12 January 2021 (UTC)

So I went ahead and added a sentence with a ref to a study in the last section which I believe qualifies to support the "sometime passes Turing" statement in the lede (I accidentally marked it as a minor edit; it was not). @JPxG, I strongly suggest you simply remove the image for now unless/until you can get confirmation on its free usage. It is a nice illustration, but not worth failing the DYK over. --LordPeterII (talk) 15:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I've commented out the image for now (I am going to be adding some more stuff to the article later, and verifying the status of the image is up there in my list). This DYK has been hanging for quite some time, so I think it is ready to go (once I'm finished with my expansion I am thinking of going for GA or FA because why not). jp×g 23:26, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I'm not sure if I've been clear enough but I'm not going to approve this hook as issues were not resolved by the deadline I set. The article is now much lengthier and more detailed than what I reviewed (a very good and welcome improvement, don't get me wrong) so this needs a thorough fresh review by an uninvolved reviewer if it is to approved. I'll ask for a new reviewer and wish you luck with the article in the future. — Bilorv (talk) 23:48, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Hi there! First of all, thanks for your patience. I know this has been sitting in the DYK queue for a while. I'm a data scientist by profession, and I'm thrilled to see content like this on Wikipedia. I may be inspired to edit in this topic area shortly. :-)

The article is new enough, certainly long enough. Earwig flagged a few areas, but they were basic phrases or quotations. I'm going to take a closer look at the article's neutrality and sourcing, based on the above feedback from Bilorv. However, I'm a bit concerned about WP:citation overkill primarily in the lead, but also in other parts of the article. Also, I see terms like "state of the art", which to me sounds like MOS:WEASEL.

Hook is verifiable, however it is 205 characters long. The maximum is 200, so please shorten it. Edge3 (talk) 04:50, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

@JPxG: You also have a large blockquote in the Architecture section. Do you need to share all of that info in this way? It would also be helpful to link the highly technical terms. Further, within that blockquote, you seem to have retained the reference "[53]", which is irrelevant to Wikipedia. Edge3 (talk) 01:45, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
@Edge3: It lives!!!
So, about these things, I'll be honest: that enormous blockquote is mostly an item on my to-do list. My approach to summarizing papers and results so far has been to explain them in a way that provides appropriate background (i.e. in other parts I have explained what the WMT'14 benchmarks are and what BLEU means); with that quote, the things that need explanation or context is barely within my own understanding (wew lad!), and they're packed pretty densely. For now, I would be willing to comment it out or heavily abridge it until I can get home and do this (I have not had a lot of time for editing lately, and am temporarily relegated to a computer that can't view PDFs properly).
As regards "state of the art", I will grant that it's the most bullshitty sounding phrase in the world, but at least in the NLP papers I've been reading, it's used solely to convey a specific objective definition, i.e. whatever model or approach, at the time of any given publication, had been documented as achieving the highest performance on whatever metric. For example, in this sense, we might say that Charles Lindbergh's solo flight in 1927 outperformed the previous state of the art on transatlantic flight pilot-count minimization, previously 2. If this sounds too much like a buzzword, I would be willing to give an explicit definition of the term somewhere explaining that it's being used in a specific objective sense that isn't "really cool Failing that, I could attempt to write it out and replace every instance with some synonym, or "the then-current best result achieved by previous applications of NLP models to the benchmark", or whatever.
For the hook, I offer one that's 195 characters, let me know if this is crap or what.
Overall, I am willing to stand by it as it is, or make the modifications mentioned above. That said, I haven't finished doing everything I want to do in this article; I have some more to say about reception and critical response, the drama of OpenAI's break from tradition followed by reversal of policy and incremental releasing of larger models, and subsequent research that's been done using GPT-2 (although this is probably more of a GAN issue than a DYK issue). jp×g 03:07, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for the prompt reply! Here are my comments:
  • A concern I have about the blockquote is that it's very long, and could potentially be a WP:copyvio issue. You'd have to demonstrate that the quote itself is worthy of direct copying and meets the WP:fair use guidelines. You might be fine with commenting it out or heavily summarizing it for now, as you suggest. Let me know if you need help summarizing it. I took an NLP course in grad school (though I'm certainly not an expert!).
  • As for "state of the art", I do think it sounds MOS:WEASEL-y as it's currently used. And I agree with your assessment. (Believe me... I roll my eyes every time I see something like that in the literature. It gets worse in the corporate world.) I just realized that we have a wiki article for State of the art. Maybe use that link? However, as the article itself notes, a layperson would view it as puffery rather than a technical term, so I'd still recommend avoiding it. As you suggest, you could either explain the term in a footnote, or you could rephrase it as "benchmark" or "best performing model at the time".
  • Hook length is fine, as long as it's below 200 characters. What does it mean for text to be "on a human level"? Would it be better, and more accurate, to say "natural language"?
I know you're hoping to do more with the article, potentially taking it to GAN. But in my opinion, you're not that far from DYK. The remainder of your changes can be done at GAN, unless you really want to incorporate it into this review process. Edge3 (talk) 05:56, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
I've read this and I'll get more into it tomorrow. jp×g 10:33, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
@Edge3: "Tomorrow" is a loose phrase, but I have done the modifications. Thoughts? jp×g 14:37, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 24[edit]

Azari or the Ancient Language of Azerbaijan

  • ... that Ahmad Kasravi in his book Azari or the Ancient Language of Azerbaijan, proved that the Azeri language has Iranian roots? Source: KASRAVI, AḤMAD i. LIFE AND WORK He shows that the word āẕari found in most books of medieval history, especially those from the first centuries of Islam, is the name of the old language of Azerbaijan that was related to the Iranian languages and was a descendant of the language of the Medes with no relationship to Turkish

5x expanded by Amir Ghandi (talk). Self-nominated at 08:55, 8 January 2021 (UTC).

  • The article was created on Dec 24th not January 1st, but it was nominated here within ~7-8 days. Probably ok (ping User:BlueMoonset)? QPQ not found but not required. Size, refs, neutrality, copyvio spotcheck, GTG, but I am not happy with the hook that states the book has "proven" something, that's a rather strong claim and I am not convinced the article is comprehensive enough to warrant such a claim (are there no dissenting views?). I, therefore, propose ALT1 below which is more neutral. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:10, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I want to approve ALT1, but I have two issues with the article. There is a long quote in the article and I can't tell if it's one quote or if it is combined with another quote. It looks like just one quote at first, but within that quote at the end is "It is for these reasons that European scientists have considered my writings as why and why and all have accepted them." So if it's one quote, why would there be quotation marks within the quoted content? I can't access that source. Another issue is that the 14th reference seems to be an unreliable source. Otherwise - the hook is directly cited, the article is long enough, the article is new enough, and a QPQ is not needed. SL93 (talk) 01:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Marking for closure. SL93 (talk) 05:41, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
LouisAragon, could you quickly check the long quote? CMD (talk) 06:17, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I’m also curious about how the 14th reference is reliable. SL93 (talk) 06:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
My thought was it could just be deleted, but looking closer it appears to be an accessible copy of this journal article. An old article, but perhaps reliable enough. CMD (talk) 07:11, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on December 31[edit]

Mr. Touchdown, U.S.A.

Mr. Touchdown pictured in 1951
Mr. Touchdown pictured in 1951

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 03:01, 31 December 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. However, none of the Newspapers.com articles are clipped; if you could clip those, I could check them too. QPQ done.
  • I find the hook repetitively worded and therefore not so interesting. Can you suggest another hook angle? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:50, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Yoninah - sorry sorry sorry for this great delay in response. I've locked myself out of my newspapers.com account and am trying to recover the password but I may need to file a request at the library. In the interim, I've given an updated hook, above. Chetsford (talk) 21:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Chetsford, I've clipped the newspapers.com articles for you and can conduct the rest of the review since yoninah has been inactive for a bit. I see two cn tags that should be resolved first. Eddie891 Talk Work 15:10, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Citation needed tags still remain. SL93 (talk) 05:49, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Had a crack at cleaning that up & removed some list-trivia. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 15:29, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 7[edit]

Usmani family of Deoband

  • Comment: Since this is my first try for DYK, please allow me to improve things in between. I would really appreciate your advises. Thanks. ─ The Aafī (talk) 19:17, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Created by TheAafi (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 7 January 2021 (UTC).

  • This is more of a comment but right now none of the proposed hooks may appeal to an international audience except perhaps for some variant of ALT5. Would it be possible to write a hook that would be understood and interesting even to people outside of Pakistan who may not be familiar with any of the names or events mentioned in the article? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Narutolovehinata5, I guess yes. I'll take some time for this. I know that ALT5 only can make a way out, but I was waiting for a review. Allow me some time. ─ The Aafī (talk) 05:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)


  1. ^ Iqbal Hasan Khān, Shaykh al-Hind Mawlāna Mahmūd Hasan: Hayāt awr Ilmi Kārnāme, Aligarh Muslim University, p. 116
  2. ^ Muhammad Tayyib, Qari. Bukhari, Akbar Shah (ed.). 50 Misaali Shaksiyaat [50 Exemplar personalities] (in Urdu) (July 1999 ed.). pp. 58–59.
  3. ^ Muhammad Miyan Deobandi, Ulama-e-Haqq Aur Unke Mujahidana Karname, 1, pp. 22–23
  4. ^ Iqbal Hasan Khān, Shaykh al-Hind Mawlāna Mahmūd Hasan: Hayāt awr Ilmi Kārnāme, Aligarh Muslim University, p. 116
  5. ^ Muhammad Tayyib, Qari. Bukhari, Akbar Shah (ed.). 50 Misaali Shaksiyaat [50 Exemplar personalities] (in Urdu) (July 1999 ed.). pp. 58–59.
  6. ^ Muhammad Miyan Deobandi, Ulama-e-Haqq Aur Unke Mujahidana Karname, 1, pp. 22–23
  7. ^ Mehdi, Jameel (ed.). "Atiqur Rahman Usmani (1901-1984)". Mufakkir-e-Millat Number, Burhan (November 1987 ed.). Delhi: Nadwatul Musannifeen. pp. 506–507.
  8. ^ https://dailytimes.com.pk/324380/asia-bibi-pakistanis-need-to-bridge-the-mister-mulla-divide/

Articles created/expanded on January 9[edit]

Bill hopper (furniture)

Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Self-nominated at 16:19, 9 January 2021 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg I just read through this and several issues seemed apparent:

  1. It's not clearly explained how this basket or box has the shelves to which the hook refers. I still don't understand the construction.
  2. At least one picture is sorely needed. As pictures taken by the US government are commonly PD, this shouldn't difficult to arrange.
  3. It doesn't appear that a hopper is used in the Senate as Bill (United States Congress) says "In the Senate, the bill is placed on the desk of the presiding officer."
  4. What happens in other legislatures such as the individual states and in other countries? A start might be made on addressing this with a See also section with links such as reading_(legislature)#First_reading
So, please flesh the article out to address these points and I'll then take another look. Andrew🐉(talk) 18:56, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Having browsed some pictures, the construction is clearer but there were clearly different pieces of furniture at different times and places. The shelving system pictured here is quite different from the hopper currently used here. Andrew🐉(talk) 19:14, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
  • @No Swan So Fine and Andrew Davidson: Any updates on this? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:11, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Apologies, I haven't been able to secure a picture of the bill hopper. No Swan So Fine (talk) 09:48, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This is noted. A full review is still needed. @Andrew Davidson: Can you take another look? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 16:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 10[edit]

Everard F. Aguilar

  • ... that stamp dealer Everard F. Aguilar proposed that the Jamaican Post Office issue stamps to mark the death of James Bond creator Ian Fleming but the idea was not accepted?
  • Reviewed: Dog & Bull
  • Comment: Still working on it. Part of the career section was copied from Philip Saunders but there is sufficient new material for a new DYK

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 15:58, 17 January 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg ALT0 is fine, and has an online citation ("Between the devil and the deep blue sea") in the text. However there are minor issues. 1. Regarding the language and citation of ALT1: its language is unclear to me. I had to read the article and the citation ("Between the Devil") to work out that it meant that Aguilar had contributed one of the chapters in the book which was written by Fleming. On re-reading ALT1, yes the hook does say that, but it's not clear at first glance. It just needs to be clearer and simpler. 2. Also, ALT1 is not written out in the same way in the text with its citation next to it, so if ALT1 is to have a chance, you must do that. 3. The phrase, "third and youngest son" rings the plagiarism bell (re The Daily Gleaner: "Mr Everard Aguilar dies") - OK no-one would sue WP for that, but to get it through DYK you need to rephrase it. 4. QPQ pending. Apart from those minor issues, which are easily remedied, this is a nice article, and I thank you for this. I like the way that you make his difficult personality clear, while keeping the article neutral - I think all the best biogs are like that. Keep up the good work! Storye book (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I am looking into the Fleming connection and will expand on it shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:45, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the QPQ; I've adjusted the review accordingly. I've also struck out point 1, regarding the clarity of ALT1 - I think I was being too picky. I look forward to seeing the other issues resolved - that should be quite straightforward. Storye book (talk) 09:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Placing a hold on this nomination until Philafrenzy completes their review at Template:Did you know nominations/Dele Fadele; that QPQ was assigned to a nomination of theirs that has been promoted despite being incomplete. Once that review is done, this can be promoted, but not until. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 14[edit]

Turkey and the Holocaust

  • ... that Turkey has used Holocaust commemoration to deny both the Armenian Genocide and antisemitism in Turkey? Source: Quotes from Turkish officials: "In our history, there does not exist any genocide." "Turkish society has always been away from anti-Semitic feelings [sic], has never shown any feelings of anti-Semitism and xenophobia. Our people has [sic] always embraced their Jewish brothers." https://doi.org/10.1111%2Fsocf.12521
    Analysis by Baer: Beginning in 2014, Turkish Jewish community leaders have been joined in their annual Holocaust commemoration by high-ranking Turkish officials who have used the occasion each year to promote the image of Turks as rescuers of Jews, from 1492 through to World War II. Playing the part of Jewish savior against the tide of genocide, the Turkish government can vaunt its pride and claim never to have engaged in such historical crimes, thereby denying, sometimes obliquely, sometimes explicitly, the annihilation of the Ottoman Armenians. — Baer 2020 p. 207
    "A second theme, unique to the Turkish case, is the determination to deny the Armenian genocide by acknowledging the Holocaust." https://pen.org/professional-ethics-and-the-denial-of-armenian-genocide/

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 18:06, 14 January 2021 (UTC).

  • buidhe This does not look like a neutral hook. Many hooks can be made on this article that are both interesting and neutral.VR talk 03:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • There is no requirement for hooks to follow NPOV. See WP:DYKRULES. It is factual and sourced to RS which is what matters. (t · c) buidhe 03:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • If you go to WP:DYKRULES and look under "Content", it says The hook should be neutral.VR talk 04:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • How is it non-neutral? It is just a fact. One that doesn't reflect well on Turkey, but many hooks don't reflect well on their subjects and have always been allowed on DYK. (t · c) buidhe 04:10, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Now that's a tricky one. I understand the NPOV concern and believe Vice regent is right about pointing to the DYK rules; but on the other hand after reading the article I believe the statement in the hook is correct, Turkey seems to do that (at least according to the sources in the article). So I would personally have difficulties wording the hook another way to present Turkey in a better light. @Vice regent could you maybe think of an example alternate hook that would satisfy NPOV for you? (Caveat: I am really not an expert on the subject, just a random Wikipedian chiming in.) --LordPeterII (talk) 15:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • My previous hooks have often portrayed various institutions, people, or countries in a negative light. Just a few examples,
    • "that memorial director Jens-Christian Wagner blames Alternative for Germany for the increase in heckling at former Nazi concentration camps in recent years?"[1]
    • "that in September 2019, far-right politician Milan Mazurek became the first Slovak parliamentarian to lose his seat due to a crime after comparing Romani children to "animals in the zoo"?"[2]
    • "that after the Greek Civil War, 20,000 leftists were exiled to Gyaros (pictured), dubbed "Dachau of the Mediterranean"?"[3]
    • "... that the European Commission of Human Rights found in 1969 that the Greek junta systematically tortured dissidents, leading to Greece's exit from the Council of Europe?"[4]
    • " ... that the Israeli Nazis and Nazi Collaborators (Punishment) Law was intended to punish Holocaust survivors rather than Holocaust perpetrators?"[5]
    • "that death squad commander Otto Ohlendorf claimed that the extermination of 90,000 Jewish men, women, and children was a justified act of self-defense?"[6]
  • Generally, the only negative hooks that were rejected were for BLP reasons. I don't really see NPOV as something that occurs in isolation for one fact or sentence, rather for an article as a whole, but I proposed hook ALT0 as I found it the most interesting element of the article. (t · c) buidhe 18:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

buidhe and LordPeterII How about something that actually discusses Turkey's WWII policies and considers both sides of the story:

  • Alt1: ... that during World War II Turkey helped thousands of European Jews escape the Holocaust even as it enacted a law that discriminated against Turkish Jews?
    • This is interesting because it shows the contradicting nature of Turkish policies. It also shows the good and the bad that Turkey did to Jews during WWII.
    • Source: "In November 1942, the [Turkish] government introduced a Property Tax (Varlιk Vergisi) ...[which effectively discriminated against Jews]. Meanwhile, and quite paradoxically, Turkish intervention saved many thousands of eastern European Jews from the Holocaust, by aiding their clandestine immigration into Palestine. There thus seems to have been a complete disconnect between internal and external policies. William Hale (professor), Turkish Foreign Policy since 1774, page 67VR talk 17:54, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
      • Not suitable, as I explained on talk, "saved" is not a WP:IMPARTIAL way to characterize giving a limited number of transit visas. Nor is it particularly interesting or unusual because that also Spain's policy at the same time was not dissimilar, although in the spanish case the laws discriminating against non-Catholics were passed before wwii. (t · c) buidhe 18:17, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I have trouble understanding buidhe's comments. 1. The word "saved" only applies to the indicated "saved" people. So the fact that it is a "limited number" is not an issue - the number is indicated. There is no statement that all were saved. 2. The fact that Spain - not a Muslim country - had a similar approach does not as buidhe suggests make it not "particularly interesting or unusual". 2603:7000:2143:8500:6960:9DFE:CAD2:CC8E (talk) 19:16, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • If you read other books that focus on this topic, such as Tuvia Friling's Arrows in the Dark, you would find that all of these transits were organized and paid for not by Turkey but by Jewish organizations, who faced many restrictions in their work. Furthermore, if you are going to contrast the transit visa issue with another Turkish policy, surely it would be denaturalization. (t · c) buidhe 19:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Okay, now Vice regent your suggestion is problematic in the exact opposite direction: If buidhe's original hook shows Turkey in a negative light, yours show it in a very positive. I mean, if they enacted laws to discriminate against Jews, but then saved lots anyway, surely the law was more of a farce? (At least it sounds like that imo.)
More importantly, ALT1 does contradict the article, as both the lede and the history section quite explicitly state that Turkey did not actively seek to rescue/save Jews, and rather let them pass through at best. There are notable examples, sure, but your hook would suggest it was a general and official rescue scheme. Especially this part of the lede, "Turkey and parts of the Turkish Jewish community have promoted exaggerated claims of rescuing Jews", is such a sentence as it directly contradicts the message of ALT1.
I understand that this is a delicate topic, and I admit that I do not have nearly enough knowledge about it (or time to acquire it) to weigh in on the neutrality discussion about the article itself. My argumentation thus will revolve solely around the eligibility of hooks for the current article.
Going back to the original hook ALT0, I must say that I am convinced by buidhe's point that they had previously gotten hooks approved that are quite critical - not unlike ALT0. Now I have previously made the mistake of invoking WP:OSE, but I do not believe this is the case here: If the DYK rules allowed several hooks to be approved that were critical extremely of Greece and Israel, why would a hook critical of Turkey be disallowed?
So in conclusion, while I value the discussion and still agree that we must be careful not to break NPOV, I do not think that this is actually the case with ALT0. Instead, ALT1 is unsuitable because it contradicts the article (in its current form). Maybe you two will want to discuss the neutrality of the article itself first (and I see at least one uninvolved editor has weighed in there), and then this DYK discussion can resume once we know what the hook should be compared against. --LordPeterII (talk) 11:36, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Çatalağzı power station

  • ... that Çatalağzı power station received 5 million lira capacity payments for 2020? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:56, 14 January 2021 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg I changed the "X Million" to "5 Million", as Roman numerals in the Main Page may look weird to others without context. GeraldWL 07:32, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Gerald Waldo Luis Thanks very much for approving this. Just to clarify the 5 million lira is only for November 2020. As the figures are released 3 or 4 weeks after the end of the month I expect the December figure to be published soon. Then I should be able to insert the total for 2020. Meanwhile I am doing my QPQ review which I hope to complete in the next few days. However it is possible I may have miscounted and still have one free before I need a QPQ - if so please let me know. Chidgk1 (talk) 08:42, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
So I have miscounted things. Considering you have 5 DYK credits, you need to review a nomination. I see that you're still reviewing a nomination, is that true? If you've approved that nomination, I'll go ahead and approve this nomination too. GeraldWL 08:48, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Ah is there a tool or easy method you used to count 5? If so it would be useful for me to check for the review I am now doing. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:39, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
Chidgk1, use this tool. Insert your user name there (exclude the "User:"). GeraldWL 08:23, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg This hook barely scrapes by our minimum character count requirement with 1513 characters. Is there anything more you could add? BTW, what is a 5 million lira capacity payment? Capacity is usually measured in volume, not in monetary terms. Yoninah (talk) 14:36, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Oh and it's not sourced. GeraldWL 15:08, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
Good question - in my opinion the use of "capacity payment" by the government here is an example of greenwash designed to confuse the public. In theory a "capacity payment" is a payment to make sure power generation capacity (such as a power plant you can turn up or down regardless of wind and sunshine) remains available in case of need. But here it is just a euphemism for a subsidy, as there are so many idle or underused gas and coal plants that even if you scrapped all the coal plants there would still be no risk of blackouts (I can cite that to a reliable source if necessary).
I was thinking of giving a total amount of money for the year(which is why I have not cited it yet), so is it possible you could put this on hold until next month as I now think the December payment will not be published until then? If not I will add up Jan to Nov (with cites) and revise the hook to say "over ........ million dollars subsidy in 2020". And if the hook should be longer I can add stuff about it being closed due to a smoking chimney and then reopened. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:13, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
My suggestion is to just cite the currently-known one and not wait until a report's published. If it eventually doesn't, you'll be disappointed. Play safe, I guess is the right word. GeraldWL 15:31, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

@Chidgk1, why is lira cited in the hook? That is more or less a disambiguation article, since "lira" is the name of several denominations. I suspect that it is Turkish lira, you could use a piped link to link there. And anyway, do you think wikilinking the currency is neccessary? The lira doesn't seem to have anything to do with the article (I mean you wouldn't link dollar any time a US payment is mentioned). Imo it makes sense to wikilink it in the article for clarity (and then to the specific Turkish lira), but not in the hook. --LordPeterII (talk) 15:10, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

  • ALT3:... that the coal-fired Çatalağzı power station was subsidized 36 million lira (about 5 million USD) for 2020? Source: "Subsidies/support for electricity producers ...... capacity mechanisms" Page 37 of [7] Sum of monthly payments at [8]
  • ALT4:... that electricity consumers had to pay the coal-fired Çatalağzı power station 36 million lira (about 5 million USD) extra in 2020? Source: "The amount of the support is a part of the transmission network fee. It means that the cost of the support granted under the capacity mechanism is incurred by all consumers through the payment of the transmission network fee" Page 37 of [9] Sum of monthly payments at [10]

@Gerald Waldo Luis, Yoninah, and LordPeterII: Thanks for your patience and suggestions. I have now added a QPQ above, and 2020 total payments into the article. I am a bit reluctant to use ALT1 as I would rather wait for more conclusive evidence of covid-19 linked specifically to a particular coal-fired power plant. I would be happy with ALT2 (have linked ministry) and have also suggested ALT3 and ALT4 for your consideration. Chidgk1 (talk) 09:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

ALT4 looks better for me. GeraldWL 09:37, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
OK fine. So once you have ticked off the QPQ if there is anything else I need to do please let me know. Chidgk1 (talk) 10:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
All good for me now. Now, you'll just have to wait for the DYK coordinators to decide. GeraldWL 14:06, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 16[edit]

March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 14:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Red XN - Sorry, I don't find anything particularly hook-y about this being Addie MS's first march. I don't think most readers will know who he is, and I'm not really sure what it means that this is his first march.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Sources accepted in good faith since I can't read Indonesian and am not familiar enough with the media landscape there to judge their reliability. Earwig turns up no violation. Neutrality seems fine, although a glance from someone familiar with Indonesian politics couldn't hurt. The main issue is just interestingness, as we want a hook that'll actually entice people to click through to the article. Reading it over, the most interesting factoid to me was that the previous march was retired after being unused due to constant mocking by activists. I'd suggest adding a little more information on that and then using it as the basis for the hook. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 00:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces was adopted after the previous march was retired due to mocking and parodying by activists?
How does this sound? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:15, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, the nominator is on a wikibreak (enforced by a self-requested block), so someone else may need to step up to get this on the main page. I'd like to see more contextual information on the page itself, since currently it doesn't say why or how the previous song was mocked, and if we're using this as a hook we should allow people who click through to learn that. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 01:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
I've left a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indonesia asking for help. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:19, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5 and Sdkb: Really sorry to both of you; I forgot that I have a DYK review left open! I've unblocked myself for this occasion, and I searched for another source. I found a really interesting article from Kompas (I could send it to you if you want) and added some more text and information from the source. It turns out that the retirement of the march due to mocking was just an allegation from the author and was not the official stance of the armed forces. I also found the sheet music of the song, but it is quite blurry and I can't see anything. Probably someone who is expert in music could recognize the musical symbols immediately. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Dele Fadele

Created by Ceoil (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 18 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Beginning Review
  • Article is new enough and long enough.
  • Hook is correctly formatted.
  • Should "extensive" pieces be "long" or "detailed"?
  • extensive is fine. Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • This sentence seems confused: "He was gregarious in life; according to Andrew Collins, in the 1990s Fadele arrived at the NME office each morning from a squat, but was always "absolutely impassioned"."
  • Hopefully clearer now. Ceoil (talk) 00:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • New Order need disambiguating.
  • Could you add anything about his early life? The article seems to start when he is already in his 30s.
  • Yup, hand on....Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Well referenced and neutral. Long book may as well be put with the other sources as it is only used once (needs a page number).
  • Long book mereged into the inlines. Its on google books, but seems to be a kindle version...ie doesn't give a page nr. Ceoil (talk) 00:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Hook fact needs a ref immediately after (I added CN in the place)
  • Sorted....Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Is it true that Morrissey's career "never really recovered"? Not according to our article on him.
  • His credibility never recovered, and has continued to sink since, especially since Brexit. But agree, this is not the article for that. Removed. Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Awaiting QPQ.

Will finish later. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:17, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Thanks Phil...I see you took care of a lot of these yourself. Will comb through and sort the remainder, and come back after a QPQ. Ceoil (talk) 20:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Philafrenzy, the QPQ has been provided. Please return to complete your review, since you have already claimed QPQ credit for it on an article that has since been promoted. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 18[edit]

Gary Kates

  • ... that historian Gary Kates turned down recruiters seeking to make him a college president so that he could teach undergraduate history? Source: [11] "When you’re lucky enough to become a dean of a college like Pomona in your 50s, you are naturally primed to be a college president. I’ve been approached by headhunters, so I’ve had to think about that. As interesting as being a college president would be, my ambitions and fantasies for the next stage of my life are much more in a Pomona classroom."
    • ALT1:... that historian Gary Kates wrote a book about the Chevalier d'Éon, an 18th-century French diplomat who grew up as a man but subsequently lived as a woman? Source: [12] and others (see article)

Created by Sdkb (talk). Self-nominated at 20:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC).

  • I haven't done all the DYK checks on this, but just a note: as an academic, I would say that the first hook needs tweaking, since headhunters can't make anyone president, just suggest names to an internal committee. Perhaps: "recruiters seeking to nominate him for a college presidency" etc. But I prefer ALT1 anyway--d'Éon is quite interesting. blameless 04:35, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
    Hmm, maybe "seeking to help make" would work? Headhunters don't have unilateral power to make someone a president to my understanding, but they are seeking it and can help with it. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 07:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
    So: ALT0a ... that historian Gary Kates turned down recruiters seeking to help make him a college president so that he could teach undergraduate history? {{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:36, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
Just a drive-by comment but I think ALT0a would be the better option here. While the Chevalier d'Eon angle is nice, the way it's written makes it appear to focus more on d'Eon rather than Kates himself. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Resolved sourcing concerns
Symbol question.svg The article has a citation neeed tag and an expansion needed tag. Could those be addressed? I am interested in reviewing the nomination if those are resolved. Flibirigit (talk) 06:12, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
@Flibirigit: Thanks for taking a look! I removed the expansion needed tag on the works section, as I'm pretty sure I listed every full book he's written (list is here; I'm not sure precisely what the norm is about what counts as a "work" for academics, though.) Regarding the cn tag for him asking his students to use his first name, it's not negative information, so I didn't think it needed to be super strictly cited to be DYK-eligible. I added it along with the tag since I thought it's better to have it uncited than not at all or cited only to RateMyProfessor, but it's very unlikely to be referenced anytime soon—a reliable citation for it might exist somewhere in the archives of The Student Life, but those are not yet digitized. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 07:11, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
All information in the article must be cited. The nomination cannot be approved with a citation needed tag. Flibirigit (talk) 14:44, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I just gave it the best citation I can find. Per D2, the requirement is The article in general should use inline, cited sources. A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, which is a lower standard than GAs (which require no original research and all citations to be reliable), which is itself a lower standard than FAs (which require all information cited to a reliable source). This article clearly isn't going to become an FA anytime soon and I've made peace with that fact haha. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 19:32, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I feel that a [better source needed] tag fails Wikipedia:Did you know/Citation D2 which states, "Newly sourced BLPs are expected to be thoroughly sourced". Flibirigit (talk) 20:05, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I've commented out the sentence at issue. For future reference, though, I'd caution you that your approach creates a perverse incentive against self-tagging. We shouldn't be evaluating sentence sourcing for DYKs as though this were FAC. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 21:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg It is incorrect to state that the review in progress was similar to a featured article candidate when only one single sentence was questioned. The statement "I'd caution you" seems both personal and threatening. I will let the nomination continue with a different reviewer. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 22:15, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
@Flibirigit: I didn't mean for it to come off as either of those things, and I'm rather surprised you took it that way, but I won't invalidate your experience so I apologize. We seem to have differing interpretations of consensus. Thanks for your attempt at review; I'm going to collapse this section as resolved. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 23:38, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to do a complete review. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 19[edit]

Kristoffer Domeij

Kristoffer Domeij
Kristoffer Domeij
  • ... that Kristoffer Domeij (pictured) did 14 tours of duty over ten years as a Special Operations Ranger in Afghanistan and Iraq? Source: here hereand there
    • ALT1:... that Kristoffer Domeij set a record when he died after 14 tours of duty over ten years as a Special Operations Ranger? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by 7&6=thirteen (talk), Illegitimate Barrister (talk), and Durindaljb (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen () 18:44, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg Hook is verified and interesting, you could also consider an alt that emphasizes that he was the soldier with the most deployments to be killed in duty. Article is suitably referenced free of copyvio. QPQ has been done. What makes leadtheway.org a reliable source?
    However, I think there are far too many quotes for it to actually be considered at 5x expansion. For instance, "Assuming an average deployment length of seven months—Army deployments are seldom shorter than that, and usually much longer—he probably spent at least 8 of his 29 years overseas, waging America’s wars." should probably be rephrased or attributed. The paragraph beginning The relevant factors are not just length and frequency of deployments for special operators. is essentially all a quote from Mother Jones-- it isn't original text. A quote like "conducts an incredible 400 - 500 missions during a combat deployment." is unnecessary and could be rephrased into the wiki-voice -- and 'incredible' removed. "reserved for Air Force airmen who serve with ground combat units and call in airstrikes from fighters or bombers flying overhead." could again be rephrased. In the two paragraphs beginning Col. Mark W. Odom, commander of the 75th Ranger Regiment , you have extensive testimonials from non-notable people, I think these should be trimmed. Including extensive testimonials past a certain point doesn't really contribute to an articles encyclopedic-ness and imo makes it increasingly non-neutral.
    Any one of these quotes/sections could easily be included, but the summation of all of them means that at the moment you have very little original content included in the expansion so it's very hard to consider it a true 5x expansion of original content. If you are looking for a specific DYK guideline here, the Mother Jones quote beginning "as members of the SPECOPS community" should be in a blockquote template per WP:BLOCKQUOTE (Format a long quote (more than about 40 words or a few hundred characters... as a block quotation) and as such can't count towards a 5x expansion.
    Otherwise, we're waiting on the AfD to be closed. Let me know what you think about the quotation issue-- I'm not sure I'm right on this one. Cheers, Eddie891 Talk Work 14:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
User:Eddie891 AFD closed. As to your observation that quotes don't count toward 5X expansion, I think you are wrong. In any event, the list of medals should not, I submit, not be counted one way or the other. Be careful out there and Cheers. 7&6=thirteen () 13:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
OK, AFD is no longer an issue. I'll ask for a second opinion on the 5x expansion at WT:DYK, and unresolved is what makes leadtheway.org a reliable source? Thanks for your work, particularly on this article, and stay safe-- Eddie891 Talk Work 13:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
On 20 January there were 1142B (194 words). Removing the multi-word quotes in the current version, I find 740 wordsish (less than 4500 characters). If the lead is expanded, there is probably enough to push the article above 5x even without quotes. CMD (talk) 14:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I expanded the lead. I've also expanded the rest of the article. Good suggestion. Are we there yet? 7&6=thirteen () 15:33, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I now see 6921 B (1170 words) readable prose size, not counting the block quote, easily enough. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Using the DYK tool, if on January 21 there were 1142 characters (194 words), and today there are 6921 B (1170 words) , that is a 5x expansion. --evrik (talk) 22:11, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
It looks like there is more than a 5× expansion now. However, quotes that are long enough to be treated as blockquotes, whether they are separated out or not, do not count toward expansion (and will not be counted by DYKcheck as prose if blockquoted), so the article hadn't qualified prior to the additional expansion on February 6. Also, articles that mostly consist of quotes can be deemed insufficient: as noted above, the key at DYK is original content. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:57, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Query So everyone now agrees it is now long enough. Here was the article before the improvements. Does this amount to substantial compliance with the rules or not? 7&6=thirteen () 19:48, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Yes, it is now long enough, but it still does not meet the DYK criteria, in my opinion. Specifically 4(a), "Articles must meet the neutral point of view policy." I suggest you consider removing the names of his (non notable) children per WP:BLPNAME ("The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects and other loosely involved, otherwise low-profile persons"). More importantly, I cannot approve an article with phrasing such as

His many and constant deployments shows an extraordinary level of personal sacrifice. It is emblematic of the all volunteer army, and the elimination of the draft, which have been part of a persistent state of war where the burden is not borne by society as a whole — but instead rests squarely on the 1% and their families. It is of course true that he was a voluntary soldier who served in an elite special operations community – “Rangers lead the way” is their motto. However, his willingness to selflessly serve his country may be transcended by the question "whether this country is abusing its fit young people’s sense of commitment."

I cannot see how this could be considered neutral. Further, you still have not addressed how leadtheway.org and soldiersystems.net are reliable sources. If you disagree, I can flag this for a re-review by someone else. Eddie891 Talk Work 18:55, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
We can delete the two sources you don't like. Debating the reliability of two minor sources out of many is not worth the time. They are redundant amidst the more than 17 in line cited sources. The Soldier systems article is about the film that was made to honor him. And it doesn't mention the obelisk that the army installed to honor him. So why is that unreliable?
The paragraph you dislike is cited and balanced. WP:Reliability not WP:Truth. Feel free to rewrite it, if you have a better version.
That you think the family and child are "loosely involved" misunderstands their place in this story. The army thought differently. 7&6=thirteen () 06:20, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
since you aren’t willing to address the issues I’ve flagged, I cannot tick this. Just because most of the sources are reliable doesn’t mean unreliable ones can be excused. Just because something is verifiable doesn’t mean it’s neutral. It’s not me liking or disliking something, it’s our policies and guidelines. I suggest you re-read over them if you can’t understand what I’m saying. Specifically, WP:RS, WP:BLPNAME, and WP:NPOV. Best, Eddie891 Talk Work 19:38, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
Your concerns are acknowledged. I have tried to address all of your concerns. New sources and new formatting and placement. "SGT. 1ST CLASS KRISTOFFER BRYAN DOMEIJ: Killed in action on October 22, 2011 2011 Operation Enduring Freedom" (PDF). 75th Ranger Battalion U.S. Army Special Operations Command. Retrieved February 10, 2021.
Parenthetically, leadtheway.org is a dead link, and is so marked. I did not eliminate it because of WP:Linkrot. It is way down the way in terms of sourcing in this article, which has ca. 20 sources.
If that does not work for you, we need another reviewer. Lead, follow or get out of the way. Thanks for your suggestions. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen () 14:06, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • The article has a free image now and, as it seems quite a good photo of the subject in his prime, we should consider using it. I have updated the nomination accordingly, including adding myself to the list of contributors, ok?Andrew🐉(talk) 18:19, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
User:Eddie891 Article has been restructured and rewritten. New reviewer needed. 7&6=thirteen () 15:36, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! My issues are resolved, but I feel too involved at this point to take an unbiased look. Ready for re-review. Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Eddie891 Talk Work 18:40, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 26[edit]

Old-age-security hypothesis

Created/expanded by Vyacheslav84 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:09, 26 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment (not a review). The article does not support the hook, in several important ways. (1) It is about a decrease in fertility caused by adding pensions, not about an increase in fertility caused by removing them. The phrasing in the hook, suggesting that cutting pensions will cause fertility to go back up is an inference (WP:SYNTH) rather than something directly supported by the sources in the article. (2) Linking Welfare state to "well-being of the country" is a violation of WP:SUBMARINE. (3) There is zero support in the article for the claim in the hook that cutting pensions will increase well-being. It links low pensions to "overall income growth" but that is hardly the same thing as well-being. The only connection to well-being is an opposite one to what is in the hook: "although it increases household savings". The article is also quite problematic in its context-free presentation of various opinions with no evaluation of what local circumstances they are based on or how widespread those opinions are, and in its base assumptions that greater fertility is a greater good and that individual hardship (based for instance on involuntary childlessness) can be ignored. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:52, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Your suggestions for the wording? — Vyacheslav84 (talk) 07:36, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Adding pensions cuts fertility? — Vyacheslav84 (talk) 08:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 27[edit]

Ii antigen system

5x expanded by Igarnish (talk). Self-nominated at 22:33, 31 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg A 5x expansion has been verified and no close paraphrasing was found. Among the three hooks, the first one is probably the most interesting, but it's slightly imprecise: the article suggests that the association has mainly been seen in two groups (Japanese and Taiwanese people) and it's not necessarily a general finding, and so that hook may need to be revised. ALT0 is cited to two sources; the first is paywalled and I can't log in to my institution e-mail to try to give it a look and so I am assuming good faith (although it is noted that the abstract doesn't actually mention cataracts, only the keywords), while the information appears to be mentioned in the second source. The nominator has no prior DYK credits so no QPQ is required. As I have less experience reviewing medical articles, a second opinion from a more experienced editor would also be appreciated. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:45, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks so much, Narutolovehinata5! I tried to come up with some alternatives on the topic of ALT0 but I worry they're still imprecise. For context, here's a short excerpt from the paywalled source: "In Japan, adult i phenotype is almost invariably accompanied by cataracts. [...] In people of European origin, adult i phenotype is not generally accompanied by congenital cataract, but the association has been reported in two Caucasian families, in four Arab and one Persian Jewish families from Israel, and in two Pakistani families."[16]
So I hesitate to be more specific in just a one sentence DYK about where the association is or isn't found. I don't love the "some" in ALT3, though. ALT4 uses "a" gene variant to leave space for other alleles which cause adult i without cataract.
Let me know what you think. I'd also appreciate the input of more experienced medical editors than myself! Igarnish (talk) 02:26, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
I think ALT3 is actually really good, though if you don't like the "some" wording, you can substitute that for "Japanese and Taiwanese". Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:16, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Ah, in that case I'm okay with ALT3! I wasn't sure how it would come off but if it sounds good then that's fine :) Igarnish (talk) 01:25, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks. ALT3 is tentatively approved, but as mentioned earlier I'd like to hear a second opinion from a more experienced medicine editor to sign this off. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 28[edit]

1x1 (song)

  • ... that Nova Twins recorded and returned their contributions to the Bring Me the Horizon song "1x1" in two days? Source: "They were on a really tight deadline because they needed it done a week after we'd got it, so the song was there and they said they wanted a few weird sounds, so I added a few weird bass noises on there [...] We turned it around in two days because they needed it quickly." (link)
    • ALT1:... that Nova Twins were asked to feature on the Bring Me the Horizon song "1x1" through a message on Instagram? Source: "The next day we got an inbox from Oli saying, 'Got a song for you guys, I've been listening to you guys on Spotify and I really like your stuff' and he send us the song as a DM!" "Yep, he sent it as a Dropbox file through Instagram!" (link)
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending

Created by Sock (talk). Self-nominated at 23:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Comment regarding notability Per WP:NSONGS songs articles should include independent, non-trivial coverage to demonstrate notability. Although this song has charted on the UK charts, I see that sources used in this article are limited to album reviews/discussions, and Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. Is there coverage on this song beyond album reviews? If not, I am afraid this article fails NSONGS. (talk) 00:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I would have to disagree that the album reviews are the only coverage, as both Sykes and Nova Twins have discussed the song with Kerrang! and NME. Additionally, Alternative Press not only covered Nova Twins' Kerrang interview, but also featured "1x1" in a list of unexpected artist collaborations and calling it "an eclectic blend of metal and radio pop". I think there's significant coverage for notability, personally. Sock (tock talk) 20:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
  • The coverage in Kerrang and NME can be reasonably merged into the album's article, probably within a "Background / Production" section where the conception of all songs is included. Other than that, the composition and "critical reception" sections taken from album reviews wouldn't suffice in terms of notability to me. (talk) 03:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 29[edit]

TIC 168789840

* ... that astronomers using the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (pictured) determined that TIC 168789840 was oriented so the eclipses of all six of its stars could be observed from Earth? ** ALT1:... that astronomers using the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (pictured) determined that TIC 168789840 was oriented so the eclipses of all six of its stars could be observed from Earth?

Created by Geo Swan (talk). Self-nominated at 19:39, 29 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Greetings. I will get started with this review. In the meantime -- I have added a [citation needed] tag onto one statement, and I suspect the same is required for all the data on the infobox as well, unless the database SIMBAD is the source for the infobox. Let me know. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 05:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Meets eligibility requirement (newness). Length is ~1600 characters, just above the recommended 1500 characters. If the editor can expand the article further, I definitely encourage that, but, if that is not possible, we should go for this. Have requested two sourcing edits, and those should be simple to complete. Scores high on Earwig's Copyvio detector -- but, this is attributable to a direct quote that has been rightly sourced. Hook's source has not been included as a part of the QPQ nomination (pardon me, if I missed it), but, I am assuming it is sourced to this NASA link. The quoted text says three binaries -- I am assuming that means 3 * 2 = 6 stars. Image in the hook is used in the article and is a public domain link from NASA. QPQ check says that it is the editor's first DYK nomination and hence QPQ might not be necessary -- if this is not true, please let me know. Can I request the editor to rework the hook so it might be interesting for the layperson reader? Need some amount of contextualization as well. Can you please take a pass? Happy to help if anything else is required from me. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 05:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

How about:
ALT2 ... that TIC 168789840 is the first six-star stellar system to be discovered where the stars can be observed eclipsing one another from the Earth?
If there's a desire to include the mention of TESS in the hook, it can come after the bolded link. The wording could probably be revised further but it seems clearer to wording suitable for general audiences than the original. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:11, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Greetings Narutolovehinata5. Pardon my delay. The hook definitely is good. I am ok with or without the TESS. However, if we do not use TESS, we will have to drop the image. Thoughts? Ktin (talk) 07:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Let's hear from Geo Swan if they'll prefer that TESS be mentioned in the hook or if they're okay with the mention being omitted. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:15, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
  • This is my first dyk. I'll defer to the judgement of more experienced contributors. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 00:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. @Ktin: Will you be able to finish the review now? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks. I have removed the picture. We can go with ALT2. I have updated the notes. Last note -- the article has an infobox with lots of data. Is that sourced to the SIMBAD database? Can I assume WP:AGF on that one and mark the article as sourced? Please let me know. Thanks a ton. Ktin (talk) 05:48, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 30[edit]

Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen

Huub Oosterhuis in 1969
Huub Oosterhuis in 1969

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC).

  • This is only a comment, but perhaps a hook based on the proposal to ban the song from the 2013 edition of the hymnal that had it would be more interesting than it saying that it is a German translation of another song? The efforts to ban it and subsequent pushback sound more eye-catching to be honest. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
    Go ahead, I was tired when I wrote it, and have work waiting. The especially quirky thing is that the Dutch author received a German sermon prize only a few years after the "ban" discussion, but I couldn't get it all in. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Reading through the article, I'm confused as to who was the one who left the Catholic Church: was it Oosterhuis or Huijbers? The article wording makes it ambiguous. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I repeated Oosterhuis, but don't think that a composer's turning away would have caused the same conflict. Also, the composer didn't head a church. For a hook, I'm reluctant to say too much about the author - vs. the text of this hymn which is the subject. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that a proposal to remove "Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen" and other hymns from a 2013 hymnal because their composer (pictured) had left Catholicism was met with backlash from German parishes?
How does this sound? Unfortunately, mentioning Oosterhuis by name would have meant the hook would go beyond 200 characters so I had to leave it out and include a piped link instead. As for the award angle, that sounds good, but it appears that he received that award for his work in general as opposed to for this hymn specifically. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Good try, but he was the author, not the composer, it couldn't be removed from the 2013 edition which didn't exist yet, and the same - not only this hymn - could be said against it. How is this: I write about another of his works, and then we try the approach? For this hymn, I'd really like the "God's presence" meaning, in memory of a friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

COVID vaccine dispute

  • ... that during a vaccine dispute, the European Union was accused of "an absolutely incredible act of hostility" by Arlene Foster, Northern Ireland's first minister?

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk) and Dumelow (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 07:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC).

Whether relevant or not for DYK I have concerns this article has not been expanded to cover some of the fallout from this dispute (I'm unsure if this affects DYK). This includes: fallout impact on the ramifications of threat of revoking Article 16 (e.g.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55882140) ; the impact of the threat of export controls ; where the 9m doses have been magic'd from (I think I read AZ had procured extra capacity); Questions about more UK support for Valneva vaccine rather than EU/French support; pressure on Commission President Ursula von der Leyen .... I'm too tied RL currently to try to expand article which could be controversial but it probably needs nuturing and expansion in my view. It also really needs a Template:Gs/talk notice for covid if chosen for DYK. Otherwise probably has merits for DYK but DYK is not a zone I follow or know much about. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk)

Symbol possible vote.svg In response to Djm-leighpark's concerns, no, that is of no relevance to the DYK nomination. What is of relevance is the merge tag. That needs to be resolved before this nomination goes anywhere. Please place a {{subst:DYK?again}} tag once that's resolved. Schwede66 01:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The merger suggestion has been resolved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Jane Lunnon

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 12:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, nominated in time, QPQ done. Appears neutral/stable. Generally adequate inline sources, which appear reliable enough (but see below caveats/queries). Earwig found no copyright problems and spotchecks on freely available sources revealed no close paraphrasing. Hooks are concise, not negative and check out with sources. Alt 1 is fine.
  • I find the main hook a little dull, having not previously heard of Alleyn's School (and I'm a Brit, it's probably less known internationally); this needs more context to be usable, I think.
  • I like Alt 2 but the quotation given is slightly inaccurate, I think what she actually says is: "is not really doing anything very much for feminism". What you've put in the article is technically correct (C4 misquotes her) but the hook is not. I also think it needs the context of her being a head teacher adding. It would also be useful to add more about this interview clip to the article; she talks extensively about the show's emphasis on appearance, particularly sexualised appearance.
  • Not seeing a source for the place & year of birth?
  • Does Lunnon publish her middle name, maiden name and marriage date? If not, I think these should probably be removed per BLP policy if they are only sourced to the marriage certificate. Neither she nor her husband are public figures and the marriage certificate is not a published source.
  • kesw.org & rolemodels.me ref details could do with expansion. Channel 4 interview needs the date. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Espresso Addict. I think you are right, I am adding more context to the main hook, and I have corrected and expanded Alt2 as suggested. On the middle name, the answer is yes, Lunnon has included it in several public documents. I wasn’t aware of the BLP policy, which strikes me as very unhelpful to the purpose of an encyclopaedia. I doubt if any other reference works are so particular. In England and Wales Registration of Births, Deaths, and Marriages, is a public process, and while the original documents are primary sources, the indexes to them are publicly available secondary sources and in no sense private or confidential. So I would be inclined to leave those dates (but not to complain if someone comes along and removes them). The source for the place and year of birth is in the next citation. I’ll get around to expanding the article on the lines you have put forward. Moonraker (talk) 05:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Mapuche polygamy

Created by Sietecolores (talk). Self-nominated at 09:18, 31 January 2021 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg The topic is interesting enough, but the article has several issues which needs to be resolved. The least of these involve grammar, which can be rectified easily enough. However, the image which accompanies the article says it depicts the "Martrys of Elicura," but makes no mention of this incident within the body of the article, nor does it cite its connection to it. Some of the assertions in the article are poorly cited. For example, the lede states that "Mapuche polygamy has also been reported in the low-income peripheral communes of Santiago." However, the corresponding citation makes no mention of this, although it does spend a paragraph describing a polygamous union set in an unspecified urban area. With respect to the second hook, the source it cites doensn't establish any proof. Rather, it relies on heresay about people several generations ago for whom, unfortunately, there are no records provided of their social habits. In fact, a number of quotes from within that source suggests that polyandry was strongly discouraged historically and very likely did not exist at all. One person goes so far as to say that there exists "no precedent" for polyandry in Mapuche culture, and that the very concept "without question goes against nature." Finally, the main source of the article is, simply put, poorly written. Long paragraphs consisting entirely of meandering, run-on sentences are rife throughout. Worse of all, it poses what appears to be the author's personal opinions as objective facts. I think the article itself and at least one of the hooks needs some work in order to be DYK-ready. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Work in progress. I have made some changes to address some issues CurryTime7-24 find problematic. I do however find this statement "author's personal opinions as objective facts" unacceptable and I would like to have another author that assume good faith and neutrality address this DYK nomination. I have edited and created numerous Mapuche-related articles onver the years and this is the first time I encounter such negative attitude. Of course authors leave an imprint on the articles they create and I have done plenty of work in selecting the information to include which I think is encyclopedically relevant. As written above, I am addressing most of the issues CurryTime7-24 is concerned about But I will accept he/she being the reviewer here. Sietecolores (talk) 16:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 31[edit]

Marl Chemical Park

  • ... that a fire at Marl Chemical Park in 2012 interrupted the world supply of a key precursor chemical that impacted the auto industry?
    • ALT1:... that Marl Chemical Park is the third largest integrated industrial center in Germany?
  • Reviewed: F. Andrieu
  • Comment: There are several "firsts" and interesting history around this obscure chemical plant... I selected a hook I thought was contemporary but WWII stuff is also a possibility.

Created/expanded by Ultracobalt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:05, 31 January 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting place. on good sources, offline and French accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. I am not sure that "a key precursor chemical" makes the original hook much better. The ALT is a bit size-only, - how about adding 1938 origins, and "Marl-Hüls" which is a name I'd recognize better than the modern one? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:08, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Given that DYK is intended primarily for worldwide audiences and not strictly German ones, the modern name (Marl) would probably still be the preferred option here (indeed, "Marl-Hüls" appears nowhere in the article, and our article on the town lists it as simply "Marl"). I would have to agree that the original hook is too vague: it may be a good idea to mention exactly what the chemical was (cyclododecatriene). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:18, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I didn't mean to replace the modern name, just hint at history back to 1938, Chemische Werke Hüls, mentioned in the article but too much German. I don't believe that the exact chemical adds to interest, at least for the estimated 95% of readers unfamiliar with it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Ah no problem I understood your suggestion and note that Marl-Hüls is more known in German. Also focusing on the WWII history may have more of a hook than a rare chemical. I've found an additional reference and will try a new Hook approach in a day or two Ultracobalt (talk) 05:02, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 1[edit]

Symphony No. 6 (Prokofiev)

Sergei Prokofiev (on the podium, right) receiving applause after the second performance of his Symphony No. 6.
Sergei Prokofiev (on the podium, right) receiving applause after the second performance of his Symphony No. 6.
  • ... that Sergei Prokofiev's (pictured) Sixth Symphony was said to depict the "private world of modern man against the terrifying machinery of universal destruction"? Source: "В этом волнующем сопоставлении - личный мир современного человека и грозная машина всеобщего уничтожения - есть нечто роднящее Шестую симфонию с другой великой симфонией наших дней - Восьмой симфонией Шостаковича. (In this nerve-wracking juxtaposition—the private world of modern man against the terrifying machinery of universal destruction—there is something reminiscent in the Sixth Symphony akin to another great symphony of our times, Shostakovich’s Eighth.)" (Mendelson-Prokofieva, Mira (2012) On Sergei Sergeyevich Prokofiev: Memoirs, Diaries (1938 – 1967) (in Russian))
    • ALT1:... that the premiere of Sergei Prokofiev's (pictured) Sixth Symphony would be the "last unhampered, unmediated success" its composer would ever enjoy? Source: "The [premiere] was Prokofiev’s last unhampered, unmediated success." [19]

5x expanded by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg It's hard for me to tell if this was truly expanded 5x; the article is only modestly longer than it was prior to the recent renovation, but a lot of old material was removed in the course of the renovation. IAR, I think the recent renovations merit a DYK appearance, but for due diligence I feel compelled to note this.

ALT0 is AGF on sourcing because I can't read Russian. ALT1 is properly sourced, but I don't find it particularly enticing to someone who doesn't know who Prokofiev is.

For the picture license, I'm not sure which of the Russian public domain criteria the picture falls under, so I'd like a second opinion from someone with copyright expertise. The picture is clear enough, although you can't really see much detail at 100px; we might want to consider cropping.

Earwig turns up no concerns. QPQ not needed, as nominator is under 5 limit. {{u|Sdkb}}talk 04:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Sdkb, in terms of expansion, this is a very odd case. Before a trio of edits on 30 January 2021, the article had 3043 prose characters. Today, the article has 6917 prose characters, about 2.3× the original. However, on 30 January, an editor reformatted the "Movements" section so that the prose in it was indented, as if this were a list, which means that the prose checkers would not have counted those three paragraphs, taking the prose count down to 931. (An expansion from 931 to 6917 is about 7.5×.) Normally, I'd give my regrets and note that going from 3043 to 6917 was insufficient expansion, even if the article were rewritten—as WP:DYKSG#A4 notes, Fivefold expansion is calculated from the previously existing article, no matter how bad it was (copyvios are an exception), no matter whether you kept any of it and no matter if it were up for deletion. This may be a bad surprise, but we don't have enough time and volunteers to reach consensus on the quality of each previous article.—and recommend that the article be renominated if it attains GA status. The feeling in the past has been that expansion should not be from an artificially low level caused by a removal of text shortly before the beginning of an expansion. I thought new wording had been decided on to reflect this, but can't find it in the supplementary guidelines. This may or may not be an IAR situation; maybe you should inquire on the DYK talk page. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

I never understood why in these cases they didn't count towards the prose count: they're still prose right? I can understand table content, but in the case of indented lists it feels a bit unfair. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:39, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 2[edit]

I Am God (novel)

  • ... that I Am God? Source: ...it's the title of the book

Created by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 16:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, long enough, nominated in time. Appears neutral. Generally sufficient online citations to reliable sources but see nitpicks.
Earwig found no major copyright problems; the one phrase it highlighted ("God falling in love with a mortal woman") is such a stock phrase that I don't think it's a problem. On source spotchecks you might want to look into rephrasing slightly further away from the NYT wording eg "for reasons he does not understand." (article) vs "For reasons He can’t understand" (NYT) in the context of other similar phrasing. "Intricate" is also a quotation, and should be quoted or rephrased.
Hook is concise and amusing; I like it for the quirky slot (it doesn't really fit elsewhere, but DYK is often short of the quirky ones so I don't think that matters). It isn't formally inline cited at the end of the sentence where it first appears. Is there an easy way of doing that just to tick the box?
Need to give original publication date (at least the year) in text with source (currently only in categories). You also need a source for the translator and date of translation into English, the genres, and indeed all the info in the lead and infobox that isn't in the body. Probably easiest to just start a brief publication history section to attach the refs to.
All the online sources would normally have access dates though it's unclear how necessary they are for reviews in newspapers.
Do you read Italian or are you going with some form of online translation? The word "spirited" probably needs quoting and giving the original word that it translates.
Not essential for DYK, but it would be good to expand the lead. It certainly should give the Italian title/date of publication, but a comment on reception would also be useful. In the body, you could also comment on the quality of the translation; eg there's a useful comment in R. P. Finch's review. Also the author is apparently a soil scientist and has written 7 novels of which this is the first to appear in English, which would be interesting background in the absence of an article about him.
Strictly QPQ could do with directly addressing all the DYK boxes eg length, copyvio/close paraphrasing, but more importantly there's no comment on the image suitability/licensing.
Sorry for the long review, I seem incapable of doing them short these days. Bottom line, with a few tweaks this will make a great quirky hook that will hopefully get lots of hits. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for checking it out, @Espresso Addict! No worries about the long review. In no particular order:
Still getting the hang of QPQ (I haven't even technically run enough hooks to require it, but I've been submitting quite a lot lately so I'm doing it out of courtesy), so there's some growing pains. I'll definitely keep the image matters in mind; I checked it afterwards out of personal curiosity and it looked fine, but I totally blanked on it being an aspect of QPQ.
Italian is via translation, yes (I know tiny amounts but nothing useful); I modified the wording of that section a little to avoid direct quoting in a way that risks getting disputed by an actual speaker.
I noticed while expanding the lede (hope it looks better now, and that the references are sufficient -- take that as a comment on the other parts about referencing) that Giacomo Sartori and Frederika Randall are both redlinks. I suspect one or both may pass GNG/NAUTHOR, so I'll be looking into solving that the classic way, so to speak. Access dates are added. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 05:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
The "hook" is not acceptable. A real hook must present an actual fact. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 01:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Vaticidalprophet: Great new article on Randall; sad to read she is deceased. I think my only remaining nitpick that's necessary for DYK is the date of publication in English needs an inline source. However I see that Mandarax has nixed the suggested hook -- personally I disagree and I know DYK has run hooks of this form in the past, but unless you want to take it up on the DYK talk page, I'm afraid you will have to come up with something different. The quotation from NYT looks nicely hooky to me. Espresso Addict (talk) 13:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Article on Sartori written too, as it is. Spent quite a while seriously thinking about this, and still not very happy with my options. I'd like to go to bat for the original hook; I don't want to cause a whole incident, though, and I suspect a whole incident may be caused if I do. Thoughts? Vaticidalprophet (talk) 17:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
@Vaticidalprophet: If you write a polite note on the DYK talk page soliciting editors' views on it as a quirky hook then I don't think it will cause an incident, though people seem pretty tetchy these days (lockdown fatigue?). Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 17:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
@Mandarax: The hook that ran from this 2011 DYK nom didn't have any fact contained within it (simply an enlarged question mark). Granted, it ran on April Fools' Day. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:38, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes, that was a one-time April Fools' Day exception, and I was fine with it. There have been a few other examples, but just because something wrong was done in the past is not a reason to do the same wrong thing again. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 02:17, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Vaticidalprophet:, I like the humor of your original hook, but I can see how it may fall in a gray area. I do like the concept of an 'in-universe' kind of hook for the novel, maybe something along the lines of one of the following would work? /Tpdwkouaa (talk) 02:31, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
    • ALT1: ... that God keeps a diary? [20]
    • ALT2: ... that God fell in love with an atheist? [21]
I quite like ALT2, and I'll take it if there are no objections, but in-universe style hooks get objections too. All apologies for blowing up your notifications lately, @Espresso Addict, but -- ? Vaticidalprophet (talk) 08:22, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I did warn you this might happen Vaticidalprophet. I will just say be careful if you do want to go down that route as Maundy Thursday coincides with AFD this year so you might get some comment about it. But as I said in the talk page comment, I am only making an observation and I will not stand in the way of this. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 11:47, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
If in-universe hooks are absolutely prohibited, rather than only acceptable in exceptional cases as I had thought, then neither of these is any more acceptable than the original hook, sadly. Otherwise Alt1 (diary) is ok except that the article uses the word "journal"; and Alt2 (falling in love) is ok except that the falling in love wording is in the lead without an explicit source; the body uses "infatuation". If an out-of-universe one is needed then you would need at minimum to rephrase it along the lines of:
  • ALT3: "... that in I Am God, a novel by Giacomo Sartori, God falls in love with an atheist?" but even this, imo, really falls into the only in-universe pot, as the main fact is just plot summary.
@Mandarax: For clarity, are you opposed to this even on April Fools' Day? Espresso Addict (talk) 17:14, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes. Besides a few specific exceptions, all of the "normal" rules apply to AFD hooks. ALTs 1 and 2 are also unacceptable, as in-universe hooks are, indeed, prohibited. Now, as far as I'm concerned, ALT3 is okay, but I believe the consensus in past WT:DYK discussions has generally been that even hooks like that are not allowed. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 21:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I think we'd better take this to DYK:Talk for a wider consensus. Espresso Addict (talk) 22:23, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I suspect we should, yes. At the moment, I'm a little acutely sleep-deprived and need to prioritize that health matter over starting a thread myself, but I'd be happy if you could or if you'd rather I wait some hours. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 22:39, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Either Alt1 or Alt2 are fine. --evrik (talk) 01:22, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: It should be noted that ALT1 and ALT2 are pure in-universe hooks and as such would not be allowed per the rules requiring hooks to have a connection to the real world. @Vaticidalprophet: The article is currently lacking sections on the novel's themes and development; are there enough sources or coverage for them to be written? If you can write sections on those, there could potentially be more hook ideas that would better fit the rules. @Espresso Addict: As for allowing in-universe hooks in exceptional circumstances, I did propose a similar idea a couple of years ago, although consensus ended up being strongly against it, and from experience no IAR exemption has ever recently been permitted for in-universe hooks, even for April Fools. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Hooks have to relate to the real world? Where do the guidlines say that? --evrik (talk) 01:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
@Evrik: WP:DYKSG#C6. Previous discussions have also rejected hooks based on plots and plot points. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Both diaries and atheists exist in the real world. In any case, I don't think slavish adherence to this guideline is really necessary. --evrik (talk) 03:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • There appears to be a consensus against any of the current proposals, so a new hook direction is probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Indeed, I was coming back to write this. I do note that some essentially in-universe hooks go through without complaint, witness today's Gwerz Santes Enori. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:59, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
It's apparently a song so its hook relating to the real world is more arguable. Had I seen that hook earlier I would have probably started a discussion on it to be on the safe side, though I think song lyrics-related hooks have been allowed multiple times in the past. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:59, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 5[edit]

National Socialist Party (Philippines)

  • Comment: QPQ to come later. Republican Party is too short and will look for ways to expand it further.

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self-nominated at 17:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Maybe another hook specifically about the party could be proposed here? MLQ doesn't really have that much name recall outside of the Philippines so I don't know if this hook works (except as a double hook where Republican was also nominated for DYK). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Westerners will associate "National Socialist Party" with Nazis, that flourished in the 1930s. U.S. Republicans hate communists. People will then be intrigued on MLQ who beat Nazis and communists only to find out it wasn't Nazis, but still communists. Howard the Duck (talk) 01:28, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 6[edit]

Nyeema Morgan

Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self-nominated at 14:56, 13 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg On hold until AFD concludes. If article is kept, then a review can be done. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:26, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Hu Zhiying

Hu Zhiying (right) and New York missionaries together in 2014
Hu Zhiying (right) and New York missionaries together in 2014

Created/expanded by Jujiang (talk). Self-nominated at 13:12, 6 February 2021 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg I'm not sure this article and nomination are ready for primetime yet. There are still some rough edges in the prose that could be smoothed over into more fluid English, and while the copyvio detector doesn't pick up anything that looks like obvious plagiarism, it does suggest overquotation. I have my doubts about the picture being a free image, and even if it were we could certainly do better than "see, this guy is on the right of this group of three that takes up about one-sixth of the image" ... in fact I was preparing a crop when I decided to look at the image's source.

As for the hooks ... let's go with the original one; the one I had to remove a duplicate of, as what is now ALT1 is rather unremarkable as many artists have work exhibited worldwide. And even having said that, we will need to clean up the original hook as it is wordy and still awkwardly worded, as a result of being what seems to be a direct translation of the Chinese. Daniel Case (talk) 19:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Fixed that. Daniel Case (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
@Daniel Case: Thank you a lot. I made a little modification to the hook. --Jujiang (talk) 21:16, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 7[edit]

Freeee (Ghost Town, Pt. 2)

5x expanded by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 15 February 2021 (UTC).


Bilateral pleural effusions caused by urinothorax
Bilateral pleural effusions caused by urinothorax

Improved to GA by Steve M (talk). Nominated by Steve M (talk) at 15:44, 13 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article passes the majority of the criteria because it became a GA recently before the nomination at a worthy size, has reliable sources and does not show up as featuring any copyright violations. However, my only issue is that on this nomination page, there is no source after the text. --K. Peake 07:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Epidemiology in Relation to Air Travel

  • ... that a book on air travel published in 1933, showed how quarantinable diseases could arrive in the UK? taken from Massey,...shows how the switch from steamship to air travel potentially opened up the UK to four of the quarantine diseases endemic in other parts of the world. ...[22]

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 16:46, 14 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date, size, copyvio spotcheck, refs, hook, neutrality, all GTG but we still need that QPQ review. Also, this is my own view, but the hook is pretty boring. Any alts to consider? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you @Piotrus:...Apologies for the delay in replying....have been thinking this over. I will complete a QPQ soon. With regards to the boring hook, it was the least boring one I could think of (sorry). Maybe a passing-by user might help here.
ALT1:... that in Epidemiology in Relation to Air Travel (1933), Arthur Massey showed how air passengers could spread infectious diseases between countries before they showed any symptoms? Philafrenzy (talk) 17:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Viola Brand

  • Comment: Since I withdrew my previous nomination, this is now my final nomination without the need for a QPQ.

Moved to mainspace by Possibly (talk), RamónMC (talk), and LordPeterII (talk). Nominated by LordPeterII (talk) at 10:17, 12 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg delighted by a nomination which includes "artistic cycling". The article is okay, but the list of results, i.e. the whole "Personal best" section, needs referencing. It could use being updated too, it says "as of December 2018" she was studying, well it's Feb 2021. It's not essential but would improve things. Regarding the choice of hook, an appearance on the The Ellen DeGeneres Show is mildly interesting, but it'd be more interesting (I think) if we reinforced that Viola is German and only 26, and I think you need to use the proper title of the show rather than "the Ellen show". My preference is for ALT1 right now because I imagine plenty of sportspeople have been on Ellen without being world champions. QPQ not required, noted. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Alright, first a ping to Possibly and RamónMC, because I am not sure if being mentioned in a nomination does ping you automatically, and you might possibly have missed that this is at DYK.
@The Rambling Man: Okay, I see RamónMC has already added a ref for the table, but I am not 100% happy with it since it is to a javasript-heavy (or whatever) site, where you have to click several times within the same URL to access the actual results you are looking for. I'll try to look for a way to directly link to her results (so it can e.g. be archived by the IAbot). As for updating, I'll take a look - it previously stated that she started studying in 2015, so it's already closer to now. I'm not sure if we have reliable sources following her studies since she has now quit her career, but I'll take a look. I'll also revisit the hook as per your suggestions. Will report back once that is done! --LordPeterII (talk) 09:31, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I had forgotten about this article; it was a two-sentence stub when I started it. Congrats and thanks RamónMC, who has improved it so much. I think Alt2 is much better. Nothing more to add.Possibly (talk) 09:37, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
LordPeterII no problem, ping me when you're ready for me to re-visit. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:19, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Sursock Purchases

The Sursock Purchases (red circle)
The Sursock Purchases (red circle)
  • ... that reaction to the sale of al-Fule, one of the Sursock Purchases, was the most significant Anti-Zionist event in Palestine prior to World War I? Source: Emanuel Beska, 2014, Political Opposition to Zionism in Palestine and Greater Syria: 1910–1911 as a Turning Point: "As the debate regarding the crown lands was still under way another, more important event started to develop. The sale of lands of the village of al-Fula to the Jewish National Fund can be considered in this context the most significant event that took place in the period before the outbreak of the First World War. The lands of al-Fula belonged to Ilyas Sursuq, the wealthy Greek Orthodox banker, merchant, and landowner from Beirut, who in 1910 reached a deal on their sale with the Zionists... The peasant inhabitants refused to leave their village and were supported in their resistance by the qa’immaqam (district governor) of Nazareth, Shukri al-‘Asali (1878–1916), who was resolutely opposed to this transaction and became a major protagonist in the affair."
  • Reviewed: To come

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 01:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC).

  • The cited source talks about the importance of the sale, not the reaction to it. Regardless, a claim like "most significant" needs to be attributed unless you can show that it's more than the opinion of one author. (t · c) buidhe 03:15, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Many thanks for your comment. The context of Beška's wider article is clear that this refers to the importance of the reaction. See for example the introduction: "The relatively short period at the turn of the year 1910–1911 was of profound importance for the development of political opposition to Zionism in Palestine and its neighboring Arab regions. During a period of about a year, several important events and incidents occurred; a number of Arab journalists, notables, and officers became involved in anti-Zionist activities and campaigns; and the quantity of articles critical of Zionism published in the Arabic press markedly increased. Based on these and other reasons, we are convinced that the months at the end of 1910 and the first half of 1911 represent the turning point in the attitudes of the educated Arab public toward Jewish land purchases in Palestine, Jewish immigration, and the Zionist movement." Onceinawhile (talk) 08:48, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
@Buidhe: a second source as requested: Rashid Khalidi (1997). Palestinian Identity: The Construction of Modern National Consciousness. Columbia University Press. ISBN 978-0-231-10515-6.: "These themes are reiterated during one of the earliest cases of orga­nized opposition to Zionist land purchase in Palestine: the al-Fula (or ‘Afula) incident of 1910-1911. Many newspaper articles written in oppo­sition to this sale stressed the special place of Palestine, for it was one of the biggest purchases up to that point, and one of the earliest to lead to the eviction of large numbers of Palestinian peasants… The twentieth-century incidents in the Tiberias region and at al-Fula, especially the latter, are significant because of the major effect they were to have in the context of Ottoman and Arab nationalist politics and in the coalescence of Palestinian identity… Important as had been the al-Shajara incidents in 1901-4 and their bloody sequel in 1909, which repeated the pattern of the earlier clashes in Petah Tiqva and elsewhere while taking the conflict to a higher level, a far greater impact was created by events in al-Fula… Although the end result for many of the fellahin involved was the same—dispossession and homelessness—the al-Fula purchase marked the beginning of an overt and articulate anti-Zionist campaign… In large part as a result of al-‘Asali’s actions, the al-Fula incident became a cause celebre in bilad al-Sham, with dozens of articles appearing in news­ papers in Damascus, Beirut, Haifa, and elsewhere over a period of over a year... The sharp, continuing controversy sparked off by the al-Fula sale, an otherwise minor incident, underlines the importance of the disposses­sion and consequent resistance of the Palestinian peasantry in making the issue of Zionism a central one in Arab political discourse before 1914… The coalescence of all these factors made the al-Fula clashes between Arab fellahin and Jewish settlers more significant than the many others that preceded it and that involved a few of the same elements."
Does this address your questions? Onceinawhile (talk) 22:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Not really, the second source appears to say that it is the most significant incident of opposition to Jewish land purchases during that era but the claim in the hook does not follow from that. Anyway, I think a better hook would focus on the purchases themselves as opposed to the reaction to them. It looks like Al-Fula incident is a notable topic that could have its own article. (t · c) buidhe 23:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
@Buidhe: I think these sources very clearly support the hook, so perhaps let’s get a third opinion. In the meantime, given you are well read on Israeli-Palestinian history, please could you confirm whether you consider the proposed hook likely to be accurate, or if you are unsure, whether you are aware of any other pre-WWI outbreak of Anti-Zionism in Palestine that could be considered equally or more significant? Onceinawhile (talk) 22:43, 14 February 2021 (UTC)


  • ... that cookhouses (example pictured) were a standard feature of remote work sites, as the working men (e.g. cowboys, loggers, miners, etc.) needed large amounts of food for the strenuous work they performed? [26] [27]
    • ALT1:... that a cookhouse (example pictured) at a logging camp served up to five meals a day for the workers who could work upwards of twelve hours, and consume between 6,000 and 9,000 calories, a day? [28]

Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 05:37, 7 February 2021 (UTC).

  • @Evrik:...New enough, long enough. Before completing review, suggest a clearer image and addressing high copyvio. I prefer the single hook but consider simplifying it and rewriting without using "e.g.", brackets and "etc". QPQ provided. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:39, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Whispyhistory: I swapped images, though I'm not tied to any image. As for the copyvio, That mirror site has copied the text from the Wikipedia article. --evrik (talk) 05:11, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg...@Evrik: Thanks for clarifying the copyvio. Image is free and clear...it is a reconstructed cookhouse. The hook contains "cowboys" and "miners". I could not see this in the cited reference. Please clarify. A shorter, simplified hook might be easier to read. An interesting topic. FYI...if interested...I had a little read around and also found...the evolution of the cookhouse to the kitchen [29], cockroaches and cookhouses, [30], illnesses in military cook houses [31], [32]. In 1885, D. G. Crawford described an outbreak in a military containment where they had to use the cookhouse as a hospital [33]. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I added a reference about cowboys. The miners cite is less clear, so we can drop that word ... if you have any suggested hooks, they would be appreciated. I will add the references to the talk page and will look at it later. Thanks! --evrik (talk) 02:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Canadian loggers and their cookhouse, 1917.
Canadian loggers and their cookhouse, 1917.
ALT1... that their cookhouse (example pictured) was as important to loggers as their bunkhouse or tool shed?
ALT1a... that for loggers, the cookhouse (example pictured) was as important as the bunkhouse or tool shed?
ALT2... that farms often sprang up just to supply the cookhouse (example pictured) of logging camps, and closed when the camp did? Philafrenzy (talk) 20:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. Please check ok with you @Evrik:. ALT1 looks good. Image ok too. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:39, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
  • The article cookhouse is barely adequate and is composed of a number of sources strung together just because they use the word cookhouse rather than canteen, kitchen, mess, or restaurant. If the sources had used another descriptor, would they even be in the article? It might be stronger if it more closely defined its subject and went into more depth about it. It has potential but right now it could easily be merged into another article and nobody would miss it. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:49, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I think it needs a narrower focus and greater depth. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:25, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 8[edit]

I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone

  • ... that Elvis Presley's song "I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone" features a theme common to country music: "passive acceptance of the singer's fate"? Source: "This song also features a common characteristic of country music–the passive acceptance of the singer's fate and the subsequent melancholy it brings." ([34])
  • Reviewed: Coming soon
  • Comment: The article still needs work, but today is the last day to nominate it. And the hook could be better, too.
    Update. My eyes are aching, so I'll have to limit my computer use for a while.

Created/expanded by Moscow Connection (talk). Self-nominated at 16:31, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting song, on good sources, no copyvio obvious, but please format the bare urls once your eyes ache less. I'm no friend of one-line sections, please expand or combine. Check for typos, please. I am used to using last name (Presley) and don't know if we make exceptions for pop stars. But surely not Presly ;) - Do we say "according to her and her book ..."? How about "according to her who wrote in her book ..." or "according to her book ..." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:13, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt I took care of the bare urls, the typo on Presly, and also "and her book"→"in her book". — Maile (talk) 15:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Allen Mawer

Allen Mawer
Allen Mawer
  • ... that Allen Mawer (pictured) was the driving force behind the establishment of the English Place-Name Society, which conducted the first scholarly survey of the toponymy of England? Source: Stenton, F. M. (2002). "Sir Allen Mawer". In Lapidge, Michael (ed.). Interpreters of Early Medieval Britain. British Academy. pp. 238–241. ISBN 9780197262771.; Ekwall, E. (1942). "Notes and News: Sir Allen Mawer: In Memoriam". English Studies. 24: 169–171. doi:10.1080/00138384208596736. There had long been a feeling in England that it was time for English scholarship to undertake a systematic survey of English place-names on lines similar to those followed in Scandinavia. It was now obvious that Mawer was the scholar to take the lead. He began paving the way… Thanks chiefly to Allen Mawer's untiring efforts the English Place-name Society was founded in January 1923 in order to finance the great survey planned. The Society met with a remarkable response from the public… The chief burden of the immense preparatory work lay on Allen Mawer's shoulders, and so no doubt did the task of drawing up the plan for the survey… It is really a feat of no small magnitude to have kept this great undertaking going without a hitch for so many years, and the chief credit is due to Allen Mawer. His organizing skill, his indefatigable energy, his infectious enthusiasm and unselfish devotion, his capacity for enlisting the interest and co-operation of other scholars and for frictionless collaboration, have been invaluable assets for the undertaking, as has been his scholarship, his etymological acumen, his sound method, and his experience as a place-name student. It will indeed not be easy to replace Allen Mawer.

Improved to Good Article status by Krakkos (talk). Self-nominated at 10:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 10[edit]

Treatment of South Asian labourers in the Gulf Cooperation Council region

Migrant workers in Doha, Qatar
Migrant workers in Doha, Qatar

5x expanded by Zakaria1978 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment Zakaria1978, thanks for your work on this article! However, expansion is measured in readable prose and the article's readable prose has not been 5x expanded since creation. Since the size prior to recent additions was 1439 characters, the article needs to be at least 7195 characters of readable prose to be eligible. It currently stands at 5036 so expansion is definitely doable. (t · c) buidhe 03:59, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Article is now at 7645 characters. CMD (talk) 03:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on February 12[edit]

Wabbit (video game)

  • Reviewed: Reviewer has less than 5 DYK credits and is exempt from QPQ.

Created by DocFreeman24 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:28, 13 February 2021 (UTC).

General eligibility:

  • New Enough: Green tickY
  • Long Enough: Red XN - Has a stub template at the bottom of the article. At 1800 characters this isn't much over the 1500 minimum. Fleshing out the details a bit more would be good.

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Green tickY
  • Neutral: Red XN - See the hook comments.
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Reliability of sources is an issue. AtariAge is a forum, so not reliable (see WP:UGC) even if the user is claiming to be someone involved in making Wabbit. I don't see why the GameFAQs content is not user-generated either, or if it's written by staff it would still need professional standards of fact-checking. Video Game Critic is by an amateur programmer, I believe, so not the professional standards needed for significance of critical opinion. Removing this leaves rather dubious the notability of the video game. I can see that sources may exist but be hard to find for a 1980s game, but maybe someone at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games would have advice or copies of relevant 1980s video game magazines.

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - I'm really not a fan of the "quote from nowhere". If you quote someone you should name them in prose. Every time I read "is considered to be", I yell considered by whom? out into the ether. In this case it seems the claim is a bit strong too, as there's Ms. Pac-Man, Score and maybe some games lost to history. This doubt should be noted in the article, otherwise we're non-neutrally overstating what is just one interpretation.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svgBilorv (talk) 22:08, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Bilorv, Thanks for the review. Your criticisms are generally valid, other than the "stub" comment which I disagree with but don't think is worth debating given the other issues. I'll continue to improve the article but I don't think I'll be able to address all of your issues given the sources that exist. So, if you want to just go ahead and fail the DYK, please feel free to do so as I won't be offended. Regardless, thanks again for taking the time to review. DocFreeman24 (talk) 22:31, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Symbol delete vote.svg @DocFreeman24: thanks for the nomination nonetheless, and I hope the comments are useful for improvement outside of DYK. — Bilorv (talk) 22:43, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

DocFreeman24, DYK does not run stubs. Therefore, in future please remove stub tags before nominating here. Schwede66 17:22, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Schwede66, I didn't add the stub tag and, as I indicated above, I disagreed with the "stub" characterization, particularly given the fact that the article met the minimum length requirement. DocFreeman24 (talk) 17:29, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
DocFreeman24, looking at the article history, when the stub tag was placed, it could be argued that it was a stub at that time. What I'm trying to convey to you is that DYK does not run stubs. So at the time you nominate the article, it should not contain a stub tag any longer as it will not be promoted to Wikipedia's homepage in that state. Therefore, it is your duty as nominator to remove the stub tag when you put a DYK nomination forward (and not just to disagree with the fact that it's there). DYK is a rather rules-based process and any reviewer should pull you up on the presence of a stub tag. Going forward, please remove stub tags before you nominate an article at DYK. Schwede66 18:01, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Schwede66, that is fine. Going forward, if someone adds a "stub" tag to an article that otherwise meets the DYK rules, I'll remove it so that this isn't an issue. DocFreeman24 (talk) 18:55, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
@Schwede66: It is the practice in many projects that editors do not adjust the ratings of an article themselves. Under our DYK supplementary rule D11, If an article otherwise qualifies for DYK, it is not a stub, and any stub tag should be removed before promotion. Promotion, not nomination. It is up to the reviewer to remove the stub tag, not the nominator. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:02, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 13[edit]

Two-room school

  • ... that the US government once mailed rural school districts scale models from which carpenters could construct actual two-room schools? Source: from ref5 "Schoolhouse Models by Parcel Post"

Created by MB (talk). Self-nominated at 01:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC).

I don't agree, it could be split in the future if it got too big. But for now, any additions about anywhere in the world can go into this rather small article. I fear the tag may put off reviewers from looking at this article, so I will point out here that the supplemental rules say a DKY cannot have "dispute" tags, and practice is it cannot have major cleanup/referencing tags. But "improvement" tags like this are this are not an issue. MB 23:24, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Article titles should reflect the current content of the article, not what it could be if someone added content on say Bulgaria. Johnbod (talk) 00:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Amanda Sister

  • ... that South African association footballer Amanda Sister has played for clubs in Hungary and Italy? Source: [36] "The centre-back spent the last few months playing in Hungary, having secured a move to Gyori ETO FC in September last year.

The player’s representative, Tshepo Makananise, confirmed to the Siya crew that the 26-year-old has penned a two-year deal with the Italian club."

    • ALT1:... that South African association footballer Amanda Sister missed playing in the 2015 African Games to finalise a move to Hungary? Source: [37] "The players’ representative, Tshepo Makananise, told the Siya crew that the two players were excluded from Vera Pauw’s Banyana side for the 2015 All Africa Games in the Republic of the Congo because they have been preparing for their departure to their new club."

5x expanded by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:37, 13 February 2021 (UTC).

Punggol MRT/LRT station

  • ... that Singapore's Punggol station is the longest station on the North East line at 320 m (1,050 ft)? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:19, 13 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 15[edit]

Asuka Langley Soryu

Improved to Good Article status by TeenAngels1234 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:56, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Irena Solska

Portrait of Irena Solska by Leon Wyczółkowski (1899)
Portrait of Irena Solska by Leon Wyczółkowski (1899)

Created by Volunteer Marek (talk). Self-nominated at 01:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Reviewed: Coming up
  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is within DYK limits and is interesting. Image is in the Public Domain. AGF on the Sources/Citations which are written in Polish. Will be good to go as soon as QPQ is satisfied.-- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:34, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Christina Gough

Created/expanded by Bahnfrend (talk). Self-nominated at 07:38, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Bahnfrend: The article is new enough and long enough. QPQ required. The article has no textual issues that I can see, but these hooks are very, very, very dry. Cricket stories to me are positively inscrutable, and I cannot imagine a lot of people will be interested by all the numbers. Can you propose a hook that isn't so reliant on numbers? Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 06:10, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
@Sammi Brie: Thanks for your review. From your userpage, I suspect you're from North America, which is not really the heartland of cricket. If you were from, say, India, New Zealand or South Africa, you would probably know that Germans are not supposed to be able to play cricket, or top the world tables for WT20I economy rates, and that an average of 87.00 is an amazing statistic for any international cricketer. I can also confirm that lots and lots of en.wiki readers are interested in cricket: of all of the more than 10,000 images I have uploaded to Commons, the one that's most frequently downloaded as part of a Wikipedia page is an image of the captain of the Indian men's team, Virat Kohli (ie File:2015 CWC I v UAE 02-28 Kohli (03) (cropped).JPG) - in some months it is downloaded more than half a million times. But taking your review into account, how about the ALT2 I have added? Bahnfrend (talk) 09:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
@Bahnfrend: I definitely did get the fact that she was German was unusual, but...the thing is that the numbers made me glaze over, and I suspect a lot of US readers would have done likewise. ALT2 is okay but a weird juxtaposition and still a bit too numerical in nature. Also, I can't take this anywhere until you review a nomination for QPQ. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 08:44, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: For what it's worth to provide a second opinion on the nationality issue, I live in a cricket country and this hook makes no sense to me. "Cricket's scoring system makes no sense to anyone who isn't already a fan" is a long-standing joke even wherever the game's popular. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 15:56, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
@Sammi Brie: @Vaticidalprophet: QPQ added and ALT2 slightly modified. I've been a fan since the mid-1970s, so perhaps I was assuming too much. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:19, 21 February 2021 (UTC)


Created by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 21:44, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

Pinus latahensis

Pinus latahensis needles
Pinus latahensis needles
  • ... that the fossil pine Pinus latahensis (pictured) was named for the wrong geologic formation? Source:Becker 1961
    • ALT1:... that the estimated age of the fossil pine Pinus latahensis (pictured) has moved from Miocene to Early Eocene? Source: Miocene=Berry 1929, Ypresian= Makarkin & Archibald 2014)

Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 18:14, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

1994 Football League Third Division play-off Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

Green Leader

Rhodesian Air Force ensign
Rhodesian Air Force ensign
  • ... that the Rhodesian Air Force's (flag pictured) Green Leader told Zambia that they were taking control of Zambian airspace on an air raid and threatened to shoot down any Zambian Air Force planes that interfered? Source: The Guardian

Converted from a redirect by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 15:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg This is only a comment and not a review (I will leave the full review to another editor), but the current hook is too long as it is 214 characters long including "(flag pictured)" and 198 characters without (I am citing WP:DYKHOOK which states that hooks slightly shorter than 200 characters may still be rejected). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Also pursuant to WP:DYKHOOK, it also says that character count is "...not including the ... or any (pictured)". I have shortened it a little by changing "bombing" to "air". The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 16[edit]

Stop AAPI Hate, Murder of Vicha Ratanapakdee

  • ... that Stop AAPI Hate was formed in 2020 in response to increased racially motivated violence against Asian people, which now includes the Murder of Vicha Ratanapakdee? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by WomenArtistUpdates (talk) and Juno (talk). Nominated by Cbl62 (talk) at 19:08, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Cthulhu for President

Cthulhu during the 2016 Campaign
Cthulhu during the 2016 Campaign
  • Reviewed: KTOY
  • Comment: I could stretch the image to be square, if someone believes it to be preferable. Cthulhu's form is famously malleable.Face-smile.svg

Moved to mainspace by GRuban (talk). Self-nominated at 05:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Is the red tie a clue that this is the former president's true nature? I see from the article that author Stephen King suggested the same idea. David notMD (talk) 09:47, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
    I don't think the cosmic horror has a Republican/Democrat preference. He'd eat everybody. --GRuban (talk) 17:18, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

The Bachelor and race

  • Comment: This is my first DYK nomination, if I'm doing something wrong, please let me know.

Created by TarkusAB (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 17 February 2021 (UTC).


  • ... that the most influential radio station on Okinawa in the 1960s, KSBK, became a casualty of the reversion of the Ryukyu Islands to Japan and closed in October 1973? Source: Most influential from Roberson; closure from [38]
    • ALT1:... that on the final day of Okinawa radio station JORO, it was described as being "like people calling in condolences at a wake"? Source: [39]

Moved to mainspace by Sammi Brie (talk) and (talk). Nominated by Sammi Brie (talk) at 22:09, 16 February 2021 (UTC).

Robert Sarnoff

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 20:14, 16 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Hey Maury Markowitz, this caught my eye. ALT0 is actually flat-out wrong and I can see it from here. By "all-color", I believe Ramos means that WNBQ was the first station designed from the ground up for color. While I'm here, you will be most certainly interested in searching through World Radio History, a freely available website with countless volumes of old radio and TV publications (including Broadcasting) which will have covered Sarnoff quite often. Given the sections on color, keep in mind that RCA was not first with color but it was first with compatible color, as CBS's field-sequential color system came first but was not backward compatible with existing black-and-white TVs and was a victim of the Korean War. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 22:16, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
I have changed the wording slightly and I believe it is now accurate. Nevertheless, that claim is made directly in the LAT source. That said, I prefer ALT2 anyway, I suspect its more hooky. Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:38, 17 February 2021 (UTC)


  • ... that the FHProductionHK, a YouTube channel with videos that have reached two million views, features someone who always wears a bear mask to hide his appearance?


    1. 彭海燕 (2015-01-04). "網片新人王" [Internet videos rookie kings]. Apple Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2021-02-16. Retrieved 2021-02-16.

      The article notes: "由於史迪仔性格害羞,不願以真面目出鏡,熊仔頭為配合老友,一直以頭套形象示人。"

      From Google Translate: "As Stitch was shy and he didn't want to appear in his true colors, Teddy Head always put on headgear to match his old friend."

    2. Lau, Chris (2013-12-31). "Best to watch in 2013". South China Morning Post. Archived from the original on 2021-02-16. Retrieved 2021-02-16.

      The article notes, "Posting videos under the username of FHPProductionHK, the man who wears a mask of Japanese cartoon bear Rilakkuma takes on current issues and social phenomena by delivering a hilarious minutes-long speech."

    3. "【熊仔頭專訪】YouTuber唔易做:「我很多片都是左抄右抄!」" [[Teddy Head interview] YouTuber is not easy to do: "Many of my films rely on copying"] (in Chinese). Line Corporation. 2019-04-10. Archived from the original on 2021-02-16. Retrieved 2021-02-16.

      The article notes: "這位主角「熊仔頭」的YouTube頻道(FHProductionHK)至今已有54萬位訂閱者,短片點擊率往往高達數十萬,甚至200萬。"

      From Google Translate: "The protagonist Teddy Bear's YouTube channel (FHProductionHK) has so far reached 540,000 subscribers, and the click-through rate of the short videos is often as high as hundreds of thousands, even two million."

Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 11:36, 16 February 2021 (UTC).

Glory to Rome

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 06:45, 16 February 2021 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough (just), overly cited. But this absolutely must be fixed:

"but in 2010s it has received became infamous"... I assume this is just a fat-finger edit but I'm not sure how to fix it. Maury Markowitz (talk) 20:14, 16 February 2021 (UTC)

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on February 17[edit]

Covington Hall

Created by Meanderingbartender (talk). Self-nominated at 13:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest

Improved to Good Article status by Grk1011 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:17, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Grk1011: New enough GA. Need a QPQ. No textual issues. ALT0 is OK and checks out to sources and interesting; ALT1 needs an inline citation somewhere where "19th place" is said. Ping me when a QPQ is supplied and ALT1 has had a citation for 19th inserted into the text body. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 23:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
As nominator, I would prefer ALT0. Will do the QPQs within the next few days. Grk1011 (talk) 00:36, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

How Did I Find Myself Here?

  • Reviewed: I'm on it.

Created by Drmies (talk) and Myuserid (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 16:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting album, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The hook is fine, but has too many numbers for my taste. I don't need the "1980s" at the beginning, and by 29 years (or three decades) or whatever, that is even redundant altogether. I'd begin with the attractive title, say what it is, then how much later than the first. Unless you want to focus on the elapsed time, but then bring that to the front. - In the article, I read many historic things but somehow don't hear the music until Reception comes in. May be just me. - Other music, pleasant: some days ago FS said he often uses a red link, I created that, made a hook, and read a better hook in yesterday's paper! This project can be so great! The interview was run by a person with whom I sang in choir, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:52, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Now: Zero

  • ... that the 1959 short story "Now: Zero", while sharing some concepts with the popular 2003 manga Death Note, has been described as one of J. G. Ballard's weakest works? Source: see ref 5 and 6, with quotations, for criticism, and reference 7 for the connection

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 09:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

Mus'ab ibn al-Zubayr

Improved to Good Article status by AhmadLX (talk). Self-nominated at 18:50, 17 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment: First nom.

Yurnalis Ngayoh

  • ... that a group of Dayaks burned a Golkar party office after their gubernatorial candidate, Yurnalis Ngayoh, failed to get an endorsement from the party? Source: Kantor Partai Golkar Malinau Dibakar "The office of the Golkar Party Regional Board (DPD) in Malinau Regency, East Kalimantan on Monday (3/3) was set on fire by a group of people....The Acting Governor of East Kalimantan, Yurnalis Ngayoh, was rejected for endorsement because it was related to his age of over 65 years." Original sentence: Kantor Dewan Pengurusn Daerah (DPD) Partai Golkar di Kabupaten Malinau, Kalimantan Timur pada Senin (3/3) dibakar oleh sekelompok orang.....Sementara Pelaksana tugas (Plt) Gubernur Kaltim, Yurnalis Ngayoh juga gagal diusung karena terkait dengan umur yang sudah di atas 65 tahun.

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 15:48, 17 February 2021 (UTC).

Farahnaz Forotan

  • Comment: Proofreading to both the hook of the article are welcome. I wanted to include the fact that apparently she's the youngest recipient of the "Journalist in the country" as a hook, but I have failed to find this in the cited sources.

Created by NoonIcarus (talk). Self-nominated at 13:50, 17 February 2021 (UTC).

Koo App

  • ... that the Koo App shot to prominence after Twitter got into a weeks-long standoff with the government of India? Source:Japan Times article
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Aman.kumar.goel (talk). Self-nominated at 11:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - I checked only three of the sources, and two of them didn't support the relevant assertion. So, eg, where did the assertion that the messages are known as "Koos" come from? Similarly, where was the list of intended further languages sourced?
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Red XN - Can't tell yet, as the sources for some of the content are unclear.

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I've added a link and made a minor amendment to the hook. Bahnfrend (talk) 12:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

East Bengal Ultras

Viking Clap in East Bengal Ground by East Bengal Ultras
Viking Clap in East Bengal Ground by East Bengal Ultras
  • Comment: my 5th nomination

Improved to Good Article status by ArnabSaha (talk). Self-nominated at 04:56, 17 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 18[edit]

Guston, Colorado

  • ... that a preacher arriving in Guston, Colorado brought divine punishment with him? Source: "A day after the church opened, the commercial district of Red Mountain Town was destroyed in a fire, with some local residents suggesting it was the result of divine retribution" [46]
    • ALT1:... that the opening of a new church in Guston, Colorado preceded divine punishmentt for the townsfolk? Source: "A day after the church opened, the commercial district of Red Mountain Town was destroyed in a fire, with some local residents suggesting it was the result of divine retribution" [47]
    • ALT2:... that in 1892 the now ghost town of Guston, Colorado was the site of divine punishment? Source: "A day after the church opened, the commercial district of Red Mountain Town was destroyed in a fire, with some local residents suggesting it was the result of divine retribution" [48]
  • Comment: I'm willing to work on producing a better hook. This is a first time submission

Created by Pbritti (talk). Self-nominated at 19:55, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

Ada Ballin

Ada Ballin in 1896
Ada Ballin in 1896
  • ... that health writer Ada Ballin (pictured) died after falling from a first-floor window and becoming impaled on railings below? Source: [49][50][51]

5x expanded by Kyuko (talk). Self-nominated at 04:41, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:
  • New Enough: Red XN - Not expanded 5x – Prosesize gives me 5398 B for the current version vs. 1497 B for the version from 12 November 2020.
  • Long Enough: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg As far as I can tell this article wasn't expanded enough to be eligible for DYK. Please let me know if I'm missing something. (Another minor point: The hook mentions that it was a first-floor window, but the article doesn't mention this. Should probably be added to the article.) —Granger (talk · contribs) 12:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Khalili Collection of Hajj and the Arts of Pilgrimage

Alexander the Great at the Kaaba
Alexander the Great at the Kaaba

Moved to mainspace by MartinPoulter (talk). Self-nominated at 11:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

Fantastic Baby

Improved to Good Article status by Nkon21 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Good Article, well-written and carefully sourced. Consider linking Big Bang, K-pop, and YouTube in ALT0. I have a question--is this your first DYK nomination? Please ping me when you reply. (talk) 04:03, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
, This is my third DYK. ɴᴋᴏɴ21 ❯❯❯ talk 22:47, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Then to my understanding there is no need for QPQ yet. The wording is quite convoluted. I suggest something like ... was the first music video by a K-pop boy band to reach 100 million, 200 million, and 300 million views on YouTube? What do you think? (talk) 16:09, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Caroling Dusk, An Anthology of Verse by American Negroes, The Book of American Negro Poetry, Negro Poets and Their Poems

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

  • I will take this up momentarily. Ktin (talk) 05:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Please can I request for a restructuring of this article? I feel it does not flow well starting with a table with a count of submissions. The table can come lower in the article if needed. Ktin (talk) 05:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Doing... working a background section. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:13, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Ktin, I've moved details around and added a section providing context of the era. Is this better? Eddie891 Talk Work 13:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi, Ktin, I'd like to belatedly expand this to four noms. Please don't feel obligated to continue the review, as I know it isn't what you signed up for. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Eddie891: No problem at all. Is it alright if I picked it up later in the day? Thanks Ktin (talk) 14:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


  • ... that biotin has been proven to benefit hoof health in cattle and horses, but evidence for human nail health is very weak? Source: (ref 53 cattle, 55 horses, 3, 50 and 51 humans)

Improved to Good Article status by David notMD (talk). Self-nominated at 21:32, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @David notMD: New enough GA. QPQ present. Reference numbers have been shuffled around but the references do check out to support the claims in the hook which are also present in the articles, and it's an interesting hook. There are two paragraphs that do not end with inline citations: one basically does but has a link sentence to RDI (which seems OK to me as an exception since it's a "see also" type of sentence), but the intro paragraph of "Physiology" needs one, and then I will approve. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 01:37, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Yes, ref numbers increased because of ref added after DYK nom, but Cattle remains Langova, Horses remains Kentucky, and the human refs remain Cashman and Patel. Intro paragraph for Physiology has ref provided (same as used in the subsections under Physiology). P.S. I would have preferred an on-line ref rather than depend so much on Present Knowledge In Nutrition (2020), but it is a very good resource (and it cost me $150). David notMD (talk) 14:41, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

2006 Football League One play-off Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 21:03, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

Shake the Room

  • ... that the music video for "Shake the Room" made it Pop Smoke's first posthumous visual after he was shot and killed at the age of 20 during a home invasion in Los Angeles, California? Source:[52]
    • ALT1:... that "Shake the Room"'s music video made it Pop Smoke's first posthumous visual after he was shot and killed during a home invasion in Los Angeles, California? Source:[53]

Improved to Good Article status by The Ultimate Boss (talk). Self-nominated at 08:27, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

Robert R. Glauber

5x expanded by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 02:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 19[edit]

After Us, or the World as it Might Be

  • Reviewed: To be done

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 22:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Abdallah Oumbadougou

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg hi, Drmies, nice work. AGF on non-english sources. Looks like three of the albums under 'discography' are wanting for citations. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

1998 Football League Third Division play-off Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 20:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

Doctor Neo Cortex

  • ... that the video game character Doctor Neo Cortex was kept stationary in many of his early appearances because his model's short legs kept him from walking properly? Source: "He could never really walk with those short legs. He had to do a weird thrusting tra-la-la dance. But he looked cool so we just kept him stationary most of the time." [54]

Improved to Good Article status by Cat's Tuxedo (talk). Self-nominated at 19:15, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

Wilbur Nelson

Created by JGHowes (talk). Self-nominated at 16:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

Ava Cherry

Ava Cherry in 2016
Ava Cherry in 2016
  • Reviewed: Frances Chit
  • Comment: Could crop the photo to be more of a headshot? (If requested by the reviewer.)

Moved to mainspace by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 16:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

Krishna Yadav

Krishna Yadav's award on International Women's Day
Krishna Yadav's award on International Women's Day

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 14:33, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

Space industry of India

Created by Raymond3023 and expanded by Aman.kumar.goel. Nominated by Aman.kumar.goel (talk) at 05:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 20[edit]

Larry Lawton

  • Comment: I completely re-wrote the article so it's effectively a new article. Sources are two print newspaper sources but Florida Today doesn't have an online archive, so I added a Tampa Bay one as well. Harizotoh9 (talk) 03:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

5x expanded by Harizotoh9 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:14, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Sammy Byrd

Sammy Byrd
Sammy Byrd

5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 19:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC).

New Gods: Nezha Reborn

  • ... that the cyberpunk setting of New Gods: Nezha Reborn is based on a mixture of 1920s–1930s Manhattan and Republic of China–era Shanghai? Source: "凭空创造出来的城市东海市,其鲜明的赛博朋克风,又糅入东方式的文化符合和元素,呈现出了独特的视觉风格。按照导演自己的说法,东海市是糅合了二三十年代的曼哈顿和中国传统的民国上海滩。"[57]

Created by Mx. Granger (talk). Self-nominated at 17:28, 20 February 2021 (UTC).

Robert T. Kerlin

  • ... that the educator Robert T. Kerlin was fired from work at three universities for his activism? Source: [58]

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC).

Eddie891 after reading the article and one of the sources, I think it would be more hook-worthy if you wrote a specific hook about why he was fired, what the activism was, etc. — Maile (talk) 19:58, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

  • I'm fine with ALT1, Maile66, thanks for suggesting it. I agree the specific is more hook-y, just wasn't sure the best way to phrase it. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Nationality, religion, and language data for the provinces of Thailand

Created by Futurist110 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC).

By the way, an alternative hook for this –which I myself actually like better than my original hook here–could be this:
I have now reviewed this DYK? nomination here: Template:Did you know nominations/Jasmin Taylor. Futurist110 (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21[edit]

Abu Bilal Mirdas

  • Comment: None reviewed; less than 5 nominations.

Created by AhmadLX (talk). Self-nominated at 21:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Vienna Waltzes

  • ... that George Balanchine choreographed the ballet Vienna Waltzes as a tribute to Austria, using music by Johann Strauss II, Franz Lehár and Richard Strauss? Source: "True to form, it is the New York City Ballet's artistic director at his most provocative again. And it is to Lehar, the composer of 'The Merry Widow,' along with Johann Strauss the Younger and Richard Strauss that Balanchine has turned for the music to his new 'Vienna Waltzes.'" ([59])

5x expanded by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 11:38, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

United Airlines Flight 328

The airplane in 2012
The airplane in 2012

Created by Kencf0618 (talk), AnAUsedSubcompact (talk), and WikiPediaAid (talk). Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk) at 05:00, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Big Red Envelope

  • ... that the 2021 film Big Red Envelope is intended as a commentary on the changing role of red envelopes in Chinese society? Source: "红包本来是咱们中华民族一个很好的传统,就是人与人之间礼尚往来的一个情感的一个载体,但是现在频繁地送红包,人们的生活带来了沉重的压力,特别是上班族,所以说呢我们这个影片通过结婚送礼送红包的这个故事,来批判目前这样的一个社会现状。"[60]
    • ALT1:... that when Big Red Envelope was released, nearly half of its audience came from fourth-tier Chinese cities? Source: "Another ticketing vendor Maoyan, where it earned an 8.5 rating, showed that more than 45% of the film’s audience came from fourth tier cities."[61]

Created by Mx. Granger (talk). Self-nominated at 20:00, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

Fotheringham Crossing Pyramid, Neuquén

Created by Gunt50 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:31, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

If We Must Die

5x expanded by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:45, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment: How is this "Created by..." as the article dates to 2017???
David notMD (I think) actually it’s 5x expanded , I’ve amended accordingly. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

River Poddle

  • ... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of Dean Swift of Gulliver's Travels and his friend Stella - and a pool on the same river gave Dublin its name? Source: Swift and Stella - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53.
    Name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...)

** ALT2:... that Dubh Linn, a peaty pool on the River Poddle where it joins the Liffey, gave Dublin its name, and the same river was also the city's main source of water for over half a millennium? Source: Dubh Linn pool, peatiness and city name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...), Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.

    • ALT3:... that the River Poddle was the main source of water for Dublin homes and industrial users for over 500 years, and had its own tax to manage flooding risk from the time of Charles II? Source: Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
    • ALT4:... that the River Poddle's role in the growth of Dublin is referenced multiple times in James Joyce's Finnegans Wake, and that the name of the city comes from a pool on that river? Source: Joycean aspects - D'Arcy, Anne MArie (2013). "Vartryville: Dublin's Water Supply and Joyce's Sublation of Local Givernment". The Joyce Studies Annual. 2013: 252–294, Name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...)
    • ALT5:... that the River Poddle, main water source of the city of Dublin for over 500 years, was later so polluted by industry that it allegedly killed cattle and horses drinking from it? Source: Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc., Pollution - McEntee, Don; Corcoran, Michael (2016). "5 (The Poddle)". The Rivers Dodder & Poddle (Dublin City History Engineering, 3) (1st ed.). Dublin, Ireland: Four Courts Press. pp. 51–63.
    • ALT6:... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of satirist Jonathan Swift and his partner Stella Johnson within St Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin?
    • ALT7:... that the River Poddle was the main source of water for half a millennium for Dublin, the city being named from a "dark pool" on the river? Source: Dubh Linn pool, peatiness and city name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...), Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
  • Comment: Expanded in recent days, 5x per DYK Check (and that's without 1036 additional characters not counted by DYK check per known issue with bulleted lines).

Sorry for so many hooks, but there are many angles to the Poddle. 8th nomination, QPQ applicable and performed a couple of weeks back - Template:Did you know nominations/Konrad Rupf

5x expanded by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 21:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC).


Singapore as it might look on the Thames
Singapore as it might look on the Thames

Moved to mainspace by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 21:03, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Ernest R. Fatland

Source: On 21 January 1980, Ernest R. Fatland’s obituary in the Capital Journal (subscription required) reported: "During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Fatland served on the Gillian County Debt Adjustment Committee, helping to persuade creditors to scale down their bills to save farmer’s from bankruptcy." Another, article in the Heppner Gazette-Times, dated 5 April 1934, says Fartland was "chairman of the Gillian County Debt Adjustment Committee…" (i.e. the organization’s leader).

Created by Orygun (talk). Self-nominated at 23:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 22[edit]

Great Mosque of Tlemcen

  • ... that the ornamental dome of the Great Mosque of Tlemcen is considered one of the most exceptional examples of Almoravid architecture? Source: Almagro, Antonio (2015). "The Great Mosque of Tlemcen and the Dome of its Maqsura". Al-Qantara, vol. 36. Article can be downloaded directly here. Hook supported in opening line: "The dome covering the space adjoining the mihrab of the great mosque of Tlemcen together with its adornments, have always been considered as one of the most outstanding works of art of the Almoravids."
  • Reviewed: Barnham Court (Feb 18)
  • Comment: Expanded on February 22-23; I did a rough count (by copy-pasting into MS Word) and counted 537 characters in the last version before this (Nov 10) and 6039 in the current prose. PS: the words "considered one of" could be replaced with "among" to be slightly shorter but I wasn't sure if this was clear enough wording.

5x expanded by R Prazeres (talk). Self-nominated at 20:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest 2016

Improved to Good Article status by Grk1011 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

  • checkY Article is long enough (9956 characters), is a GA, nominated in time (became GA on 22 February, nominated same day)
  • checkY Hook is short enough, interested, in the article and well cited
  • ☒N QPQ not yet done, and the user has 6 previous DYK nominations. Grk1011 as per WP:QPQ, a review of another article is required
  • Symbol question.svg Overall, the article and hook are fine, but QPQ required before this nomination can be passed. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

1995 Football League Second Division play-off Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 18:09, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

Saks Fifth Avenue flagship store

Saks Fifth Avenue flagship
Saks Fifth Avenue flagship
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending
  • Comment: Article was moved to mainspace on February 19, 2021.

Created by (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 17:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

Time's Arrow (short story)

Created by ReaderofthePack (talk) and Piotrus (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 06:21, 22 February 2021 (UTC).


5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

Groover's Paradise

McDonough, Jack October 26, 1974, Billboard DSR: Abum and QS 'on tour' producers

Created by GDuwen (talk). Self-nominated at 20:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 23[edit]

Pseudolarix wehrii

Pseudolarix wehrii cone scale fossils
Pseudolarix wehrii cone scale fossils
  • ... that the extinct golden larch Pseudolarix wehrii (cone scales pictured) originally had a different name? Source: Gooch (1992)
    • ALT1:... that Pseudolarix wehrii (cone scales pictured) fossils can be mummies? Source: Basinger (1991), LaPage & Basinger (1995)
    • ALT2:... that the extinct golden larch Pseudolarix wehrii (cone scales pictured) is named for a Northwest School artist?Source: Gooch (1992) for name & Arment (2002) for artistry

Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 13:44, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Siuro railway station

Siuro railway station, Nokia, Finland
Siuro railway station, Nokia, Finland

Created by Konryusui (talk). Nominated by Ashleyyoursmile (talk) at 18:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

Welcome to Heartbreak

5x expanded by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 08:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 24[edit]

1991 Football League Fourth Division play-off Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 20:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Kangasala railway station

Kangasala railway station, Finland
Kangasala railway station, Finland

Created by Konryusui (talk). Nominated by Ashleyyoursmile (talk) at 19:03, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Charles Joseph Bonaparte

  • ... that Charles Joseph Bonaparte, great-nephew to Napoleon I, founded the Bureau of Investigation during his time as U.S Attorney General, which would later become the Federal Bureau of Investigation? Source: Findlay, James G. (November 19, 1943). "Memorandum for the Director: Re: Early History of the Bureau of Investigation, United States Department of Justice". Historical Documents from the Bureau's Founding. Los Angeles, CA: Federal Bureau of Investigation. Archived from the original on July 3, 2012. Retrieved August 14, 2012

Created by MJV479 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Carol Breen

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Femme au béret et à la robe quadrillée (Marie-Thérèse Walter)

Created by Fieryninja (talk). Nominated by Ashleyyoursmile (talk) at 11:31, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

2021 Welsh Open (snooker)

5x expanded by Lee Vilenski (talk). Self-nominated at 09:39, 24 February 2021 (UTC).


5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

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