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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
February 17 1
April 17 1 1
April 30 1 1
May 2 1
May 4 1
May 5 1
May 7 1
May 9 1
May 12 1
May 13 2
May 14 2 2
May 15 4 1
May 17 4
May 18 1
May 20 2 1
May 21 2 1
May 22 6 3
May 23 3
May 24 1 1
May 25 5 2
May 26 4 2
May 27 1
May 28 4 2
May 29 1
May 30 7 3
May 31 3 1
June 1 7 4
June 2 7 3
June 3 7 3
June 4 4 2
June 5 6 2
June 6 4 4
June 7 9 1
June 8 7 3
June 9 4 1
June 10 7 2
June 11 12 3
June 12 3
June 13 9 4
June 14 10 1
June 15 10 4
June 16 8 3
June 17 10 1
June 18 8 5
June 19 8 7
June 20 13 2
June 21 7 1
June 22 8 1
June 23 2 1
Total 231 79
Last updated 18:26, 23 June 2021 UTC
Current time is 20:47, 23 June 2021 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
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To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.

Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
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If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]


This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.


Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on February 17[edit]

Koo (social network)

  • ... that the Koo App shot to prominence after Twitter got into a weeks-long standoff with the government of India? Source:Japan Times article
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Aman.kumar.goel (talk). Self-nominated at 11:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC).

Collapsing prior review from Bahnfrend. DanCherek (talk) 22:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - I checked only three of the sources, and two of them didn't support the relevant assertion. So, eg, where did the assertion that the messages are known as "Koos" come from? Similarly, where was the list of intended further languages sourced?
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Red XN - Can't tell yet, as the sources for some of the content are unclear.
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I've added a link and made a minor amendment to the hook. Bahnfrend (talk) 12:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend: I have addressed above issues with my recent edit. I don't think QPQ is needed because I have less than 5 nominations. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 11:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg It has been more than two weeks, and reviewer Bahnfrend has not returned; new reviewer needed to check the issues previously raised and see whether they have been addressed so the DYK criteria are met. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
New review by DanCherek
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - need sources for "first launched in Kannada", "Hindi", and all of the future languages. The Japan Times source says that Koo installs increased by 901,000, not that there were 901,000 installs
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Red XN - it would be great if the first two sentences of paragraph 3 (about Koo vs Twitter) could be reworded a little to make it more different from the source
  • Other problems: Red XN - there are concerns on the talk page about the article's title, and whether it should be moved to Koo (app) or Koo (social network), these should be addressed (whether or not the page is ultimately moved) prior to approval. (FWIW, I think I agree that it should be moved since the name of the app is just "Koo")
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg @Aman.kumar.goel: Thanks for your patience with this nomination, sorry for the delay. See comments above, there are a few remaining things that I think should be resolved before approval. Let me know if you have any questions. DanCherek (talk) 22:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

@DanCherek: Fixed these issues except the last one. The concern over the title might be outdated because it was 2 months ago and this microblogging service is referred to as "Koo App" in the sources that we have used. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 12:01, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
@Aman.kumar.goel: While the headlines say "Koo App", the prose in all of the sources call it "Koo", "the Koo platform", "the Koo app", etc., with no capitalization in "app". Reference [7] says: It is named just “Koo” on the App Store with Bombinate Technologies Private Limited as the provider. I think it's similar to how we have articles titled Twitter and Snapchat rather than "Twitter App" and "Snapchat App". Also, "first launched in Kannada", "Hindi", and all of the future languages should be sourced — I'm being annoying about this because if the unsourced material is removed it starts to approach the 1,500-character minimum DYK threshold. Thanks, let me know if you have any questions or if you want me to open it up for more opinions from WT:DYK. DanCherek (talk) 20:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Aman.kumar.goel; are you going to return to make the changes that the reviewer asked you about? It's been nearly a month now. If we don't hear from you in the next few days, this nomination will have to be closed. MeegsC (talk) 21:04, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5 and MeegsC: I have resolved all issues now. Let me know if any problems exist. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 05:20, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
DanCherek, how is it looking now? Do you approve it, or are there still issues? MeegsC (talk) 08:11, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Sigh... it's undergoing a big expansion by another user which is great for the article but always complicates things here. @Aman.kumar.goel: With the new content added by Badassboy 63637, there are now sections that need further copy-editing (e.g. capitalization issues, external links removal) and sources needed (e.g. "Most Followed Accounts" is unsourced). I also note the three editors on the talk page who are in support of a title change. DanCherek (talk) 12:31, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@Aman.kumar.goel: Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:07, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Article has been moved to Koo (social network); I have adjusted this page to reflect the move except for the hook, which I'm not sure how to adjust beyond the link to the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:57, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Does this need a GOCE copyedit? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:46, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
The prose is generally fine and GOCE is probably not necessary; DYK-compliant sourcing is the only thing preventing this from being approved right now. DanCherek (talk) 14:13, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
After all the recent edits to the article, I don't see any serious issue with the article right now. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 10:56, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
There are two paragraphs in the article that are unsourced (in "Format, interface and features" and "Most followed accounts"); they need to be sourced per WP:DYKSG. DanCherek (talk) 22:07, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@Aman.kumar.goel: Could you source the remaining unsourced paragraphs? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:27, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 07:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Pinging DanCherek to see whether the latest changes solve the sourcing issues. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks for the ping! All paragraphs sourced now so approving. DanCherek (talk) 02:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg The article refers to the app as Koo, Koo App, and Koo app. Which one is it? The hook doesn't sound that great with "got into a". Maybe ALT1 ... that the social network Koo became prominent after a weeks-long standoff between Twitter and the Government of India? SL93 (talk) 05:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
ALT1 looks fine to me. Thanks. DanCherek (talk) 14:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Unreferenced contact was just added to the article. SL93 (talk) 06:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Already removed by other editor. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 14:34, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Aman.kumar.goel Can you make the article consistent with what the subject is? SL93 (talk) 16:56, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Some sections read like an advert, others like a howto. Desertarun (talk) 21:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg I don't think those issues necessarily make this nomination ineligible, rather it merely means that additional work is needed to bring the article up to standard. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:04, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Aman.kumar.goel: This is your final ping; if the issues are not addressed in a reasonable timeframe, the nomination will be closed. It is now the oldest active nomination and progress needs to be done if this is to be passed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 2[edit]

Norman K. Risjord

  • ... that historian Norman K. Risjord worked in counter-intelligence in Berlin before he obtained his Phd and pursued a career in American history?  Sources: • Norman K. Risjord: University of Wisconsin, biography;   • Memorials: Norman Risjord, Omohundro Institute

Created by Gwillhickers (talk). Self-nominated at 18:42, 5 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I am willing to review it, but first, the subject's notability is not clear. Could you elaborate here or on the article's talk how they meet WP:NPROF/WP:NBIO and ping me? The current sources for the article are low-key obituaries from his Department and funeral home, hardly independent (one presumably written by his colleagues at work, the other by his family and friends). I'll continue the review once the notability is made clear. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:37, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
@Piotrus: -- Risjord is noted in the academic and historical community for having authored more than twenty books on American history. That he worked for US intelligence before pursuing a career in history also makes him interesting, imo. The article is for reference, as Risjord's name occurs from time to time in other works of history. I wouldn't go so far as to say he's famous, but he is noted among historians and the like. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:01, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
[Add] Risjord's studies and writings about the birth and development of US political party system that emerged after the American Revolution were published in six separate volumes, and are considered standard works on the development of the early American party system. There is no other historian who has written in this important area of study nearly as much as Risjord has. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:38, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Gwillhickers, Hmmm, I am still seeing those assertions as made by a Wikipedian but not backed up reliable sources. I will ping User:Randykitty here for a quick sanity check. What do you think, Randy? AfD or am I missing something? If you think it is notable I'll be happy to finish reviewing this. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:55, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
@Piotrus and Randykitty: Thanks. We should keep in mind that 'notability' is usually based on one's accomplishments and that any notability is usually limited to those interested in the subject. For example, an article on a given video game is only notable in the eyes of video-gamers. Risjord is noted in the American history historical world for his many Works|works on history, esp where it concerns the US party system that emerged after the American Revolution - a very important component of American history, often ignored. Like other accomplished writers this is Risjord's claim to notability. Hope his many scholarly accomplishments will be notable enough. Risjord is often referenced by other writers so if need be I can add these items to the narrative. I'll continue looking for other sources. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 17:28, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Actually, that is not correct. Notability is not based on accomplishments, but on being "noted" as evidenced by in-depth discussion in reliable sources independent of the subject. I see here only 2 independent sources: the Hickey book and an article from the same author. I checked the book and there a only a handful in-passing mentions, nothing coming close to the coverage needed for notability. The article is even worse, mentioning Risjord just once in a list of sources. If Risjord was indeed as valued as you claiam, then there should be sources certifying that. If this is all (Goodreads, seriously?), then this is not only unsuited for DYK but ripe for AfD. Sorry for being so harsh, I understand and appreciate the time and effort that you have invested in this... --Randykitty (talk) 18:58, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for being candid. Yes, we need more than one independent source that indeed says Risjord is a noted scholar in his field. Hickey maintains Risjord's works on the US party system are the standard reference on this subject. I only meant to say that accomplishments come first, and then, maybe, notability follows. Apparently it hasn't in this case, even though Risjord's name appears in the Bibliographies of many books on the history of the US government in the early days. As I said, I will look to other scholarly accounts which mention Risjord's distinguished accomplishments in the study of early US history. -- If I come up with any such independent sources I'll ping you and we can go from there. Otherwise, I'll just withdraw the nomination and hope the AfD axe doesn't come down on the article. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:00, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Gwillhickers, I really dislike being a party-pooper or the resident "deletionist", particularly as I believe we are suffering from systemic bias against academics (or pro-celeberities). Nonetheless, I think there is no middle ground. If he is notable, this is eligible for DYK. If he is not, this is not eligible for an article (and your effort can be at best userfied, waiting for a day sources about him appear - it is possible, some scholars are written about by their peers and students and such, but it can takes years or decades). For the record, I do believe we should have articles about such people who should be notable, but it is not up to us to say they are - his peers and colleagues and so on need to go through the effort of writing at least one (and preferably three articles about him). That is the requirement for one to have an entry in an encyclopedia. Until such sources exist, he may not be notable. (That said, see also supplementary notes at WP:PROF, maybe he can squeeze by one of the other criteria; not that long ago I AfD an Asian vice rector of a minor university with no citations / research who got kept per consensus that vice rectors of all Commonwealth countries are automatically notable due to meeting some aspect of PROF...). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:55, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Book Reviews
Asking for three complete articles on writers it would seem is a bit much, considering that the guideline referred to only says Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. Also, I am more concerned with 'what' an independent source says, rather than how many sentences or paragraphs, so I'm hoping we don't use a 'word count' of sorts to measure the weight a source may lend to Risjord. Having authored dozens of books, Risjord's area of expertise is distinguished and some of his works are considered the standard authority, so there's a likely chance there are others besides Hickey who definitively say so. I'll continue to search through the other sources. Risjord's names occurs in many works on American history, and in particular, Thomas Jefferson and post Revolutionary War developments, so there's still hope here that there's some ample coverage about the person himself. Will be prompt about the search. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 19:05, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I suggest you start looking for reviews of his books, those might be more substantial than those Hickey sources (which in one case are just a citation and in the other not even a complete sentence). In the field of history, books are the way to publish and many journals will publish reviews of books in their field of interest. If no reviews of his books can be found, then I'd say that more or less proves non-notability (insofar as a negative can be proven, of course). --Randykitty (talk) 22:11, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Gwillhickers, FYI, one article would make me not bother with AfD. Or even a detailed paragraph. Heck, a sentence calling him or his work significant would be of use too. Believe it or not, I do have (what I consider) relaxed standards when it comes to academics, it is just that they are still not met here - we are missing even one, independent, in-depth source about him. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:23, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
I've come across these book reviews of Risjord's work so far. In terms of recognition and praise given to Risjord, these reviews don't come right out and say that Risjord's works are a standard authority, but they do support the idea that Risjord is a well recognized, accomplished and insightful writer in his field.
  • Review: By, Cox, Richard J., Baltimore City Archives
    Book: Chesapeake Politics, 1781-1800, by Norman K. Risjord (1978)  ISBN 9780231043281
Cox —– "Risjord's Chesapeake Politics will be the classic work on the early politics of Maryland, Virginia, and North Carolina for years to come, and all new work will be compared to it.[1]
  • Review: By Elaine G. Breslaw, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
    Book: Builders of Annapolis: Enterprise and Politics in a Colonial Capital, By Norman K. Risjord. (1997) ISBN 0-938420-60-7
Breslaw —– "This is good popular history. The author chronicles the development of Annapolis in the eighteenth century through the lives of nine families who contributed to the architectural and institutional development of the town. Risjord, now retired from the history department at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, is best known for his description of Chesapeake Politics, 1781-1800 (New York, 1978) and a series of biographical sketches of Representative Americans.[a] Drawing on an array of secondary sources, he brings to this portrait of elite Annapolis colonials a wealth of human interest stories and insightful observations."[2]
  • Review: By Harry Hellenbrand, University of Minnesota, Duluth
    Book: Thomas Jefferson, by Norman K. Risjord (1994)  ISBN 9780945612391
Hellenbrand —– "Norman K. Risjord's brief biography of Jefferson is the work of a seasoned professional who has devoted his scholarly career to the study of the Jeffersonian period in American history. While modestly describing his book as a brief outline of Jefferson's career for a general audience, Risjord actually presents an insightful analysis of Jefferson's character and beliefs and an incisive account of his impact on his times. Risjord is especially strong in showing how Jefferson managed to combine strong elements of classical republicanism and Lockean liberalism in his political ideology and in tracing how the balance between them constantly shifted in response to changing circumstances. Firmly in command of the sources, Risjord, in slightly more than 200 pages, leads the reader authoritatively through the main stages of development in Jefferson's career and provides a convincing assessment of his place in American history."[3]
Notes :
  1. ^ Cox, Richard J., (Emphasis added)
  2. ^ Breslaw, [1], pp. 382-383
  3. ^ Hellenbrand review:, p. 266-267
  1. ^ These works are listed in the article.
Thanks to both of you for your advice and patience. Continuing the search. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 19:17, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Gwillhickers, A quick tip: I found that LibGen is good at returning book reviews that GScholar missed. Anyway, while I don't think reviews of one's book lend themselves to the notability of the author directly (per WP:NOTINHERITED), we do have something to work with here: Risjord, now retired from the history department at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, is best known for his description of Chesapeake Politics, 1781-1800 (New York, 1978) and a series of biographical sketches of Representative Americans. and a seasoned professional who has devoted his scholarly career to the study of the Jeffersonian period in American history. That's good, and for me would be enough to compromise (leave the notability template in, but no need for AfD; the reason I see it as a constructive is that the article is tagged for improvement and hopefully will eventually attract someone who will add more sources, once they exist; that's of course is assuming you don't find anything more right now). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:50, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
I broke this subsection titled "Book reviews", as it seems to be working through the WP:Notability (academics), "Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable." Criteria #1. "The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources." TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 17:17, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Prestigious academic honor

At WP:Notability (academics), "Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable." Criteria #2. "The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level."

- The Fulbright Scholar Program sponsored Risjord for a lectureship in American history at university in Uppsala, Sweden in 1967-1968, see that Fulbright U.S. Scholar Directory.
- The Fulbright Scholar Program sponsored Risjord for a lectureship in American history at university in Singapore in 1983-1984, see that Fulbright U.S. Scholar Directory.

At these two third-party reliable sources, Norman K. Risjord may be found to be WP:notable for one Criteria, #2. s/TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 17:33, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Outside academia, in an academic capacity

At WP:Notability (academics), "Academics meeting any one of the following conditions, as substantiated through reliable sources, are notable." Criteria #6. "The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity."

- Consistent with the "Wisconsin Idea" from a 1905 University Presidential address, "I shall never be content until the beneficent influence of the University reaches every family of the state."
Risjord broadcast his university lectures in American history on NPRs Wisconsin Public Radio for twenty years 1967-1989. See the Newsletter for the Participatory Learning and Teaching Organization, PLATO Weekly Update 2/5/2019 by Michael Stevens.
- Risjord's PLATO lectures were aimed first at the program's principle audience, senior Wisconsin residents nearing retirement. They began in a 25-student classroom, then expanded to the Madison Senior Center at Capitol Lakes, and finally filling the 200-seat auditorium each semester at the Oakwood Village West residence campus. see PLATO Weekly Update 2/5/2019.
- Risjord he wrote a secondary schools textbook on American History, published by (1979) Pearson, and (1983) Holt, Rinehart and Winston. He followed that in 1984 with a college-level textbook, America: A History of the United States, reprinted (1988) Pearson College Division, which both reflected well on his high school textbook, which was "outside academia", but in his "academic capacity".

At three reliably sourced examples, Norman K. Risjord may be found to be WP:notable for one criteria, #6. s/TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 18:34, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 4[edit]

Sabacc, Dejarik

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 06:04, 4 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Both articles are new enough, long enough, QPQs done, no image, pass earwig. Hook is okay, though it is somewhat wordy. Can we strengthen the hook? --evrik (talk) 03:28, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  • When I read the hook, I shrug and say, ehhh. I know what you're trying to say ... it's kind of boring the way it's written. --evrik (talk) 04:19, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Alt1 ... that neither holochess nor sabacc, two games featured in the Star Wars movies, have a definitive real-world rule-set?
Here is my take. --evrik (talk) 15:21, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Evrik, Shorter - I like it, but I'd quibble that the games are not just featured in the movies, the even 'cooler' fact is that the Star Wars movies (media...) invented them in the first place. How would you go about clarifying that in your proposed hook? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:26, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
Evrik hasn't edited in a week so we many need a new reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:42, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Popping in here. I like the sound of a compromise:
ALT2: ... that neither holochess nor sabacc, two games invented for the Star Wars films, have a definitive ruleset despite several real-world licensed releases?
Clarifies the 'invented for' and also gives the reason you'd actually care why they don't have definitive rules -- because they have actual real-world licensed releases. Also switched 'movies' to 'films', which is subtle but frees us up a couple characters (important with the length!) and sounds better encyclopedically in more or less anything that's not a direct quote. Vaticidalprophet 14:08, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 5[edit]

Kendra Sunderland

  • Reviewed: U.S. v. McMahon
  • Comment: I omitted what the award is for because I’m not sure people should see “tits” on the front page.

Created by Trillfendi (talk). Self-nominated at 00:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Lets review:
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article is all good. But misses on timelines. Like it does not mention that she won the award in 2018. Also, there is no censorship required in the article (censorship may be required on main page). Hence you can freely mention the tits in the article but maybe skip from the hook. In fact, you can rephrase Alt1 in such an intriguing manner that people will want to click and read full article to know for what she won the award. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:42, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

I assumed that putting the inaurugal event that it would be redundant to include the year, but if you want me to I’ll add it. Trillfendi (talk) 01:47, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Not everyone keeps chronology of award in their mind to know when the inaugural award was present. Alt1 is good to go. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:30, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
I had the assumption that the reader would go to the hyperlinked article. Trillfendi (talk) 12:56, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Returned from queue per talk —valereee (talk) 01:35, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, I was waiting for everyone else to come back around after the Did you Know talk page archived it. Trillfendi (talk) 03:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
Okay. Can you please propose a new hook then? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:03, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
@Trillfendi: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:31, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Is the original hook via Daily News unsuitable? Trillfendi (talk) 00:57, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 7[edit]

American Pre-Raphaelites

  • ... that the American Pre-Raphaelite painters had an obsession with depicting birds' nest still lifes? Source: "It would appear more than coincidental that the emphasis upon informal stilllife elements, the accidental, humble object found in nature, precisely, meticulously rendered, began to appear in American art at just the time when the first major show of English painting was presented to the American public. Moreover, we have noted the profusion of Bird's Nest subjects in American painting after this time." [2]
    • ALT1:... that the American Pre-Raphaelites rebuked Albert Bierstadt's The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak by saying "20 times the study ... would not have justified him in attempting to fill so large a canvas"? Source: "Six years later, The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak was criticized by American pre-Raphaelites who thought that "twenty times the study that the artist has given to this picture,-study represented by actual sketches, built upon a previous ten years ... would not have justified him in attempting to fill so large a canvas" (New Path, April 1864, 161, quoted in Anderson and Ferber 1990, 194). " [3]

Created by Wingedserif (talk). Self-nominated at 16:41, 14 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Article new enough, created on May 7, the same day it was nominated. Long enough at over 4200 characters.
  • There are major problems with the references in this article; many don't support the statements made. For example, ref1 does say that Ruskin's book struck a chord with the Transcendalists, but p. 44 says nothing about plein air painting. Ref3 doesn't mention Emerson or Norton at all, and it doesn't mention Ruskin's painting. The last phrase in the last sentence of the fourth paragraph of the History section isn't supported by any source. Ref9 has the wrong page number; the article states that Richards became a marine painter on pp. 5 and 14. I'm sure you get my point, so I'll stop here. I'm unable to verify the sources in several refs because they're inaccessible, but I wouldn't be surprised if they suffered from the same issues. At any rate, this is a concerning issue with this article.
  • The first hook is fine, but there's nothing in the article about Bierstadt's painting.
  • There are major issues with the prose, which is secondary to the problems with the utilization of sources. The paragraphs are too short, probably because not enough information from the sources are included, giving this article a problem with comprehensiveness.
  • I can't pass this article in its current state. I recommend that you remove the nomination, give up the DYK, and work on how you use sources. Symbol delete vote.svg Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 21:01, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
To your citation criticism: Ref1 was to connect Ruskin to Transcendental ideals, not plein air painting. Both the use of plein air painting and the popularity of Modern Painters are established by Ref3. Ref4 is to establish that Norton and Emerson in fact read Modern Painters. In Ref8 (I assume you meant), the relevant information is on the 12th page of the pdf—a mistake, yes, but a small one. As for the 4th graf of the history section, you'll notice that ref10 also establishes that the American Pre-Raphaelites criticized Bierstadt. The specific claim about the criticism of manifest destiny is verifiable in the Ferber 2019 source, which I have not had time to track down IRL. To me, none of this adds up to a "concerning issue" that fails to meet WP:V and can't be resolved w/ 1-2 edits. (As an aside, I wish you had phrased your criticism constructively instead of throwing your hands up.)
I do not believe the article's paragraphs are too short, and their length is not a result of "not enough information". I break paragraphs often because they help structure information for a reader. As far as I know, DYK does not have a comprehensiveness criteria, so I don't know why "a problem with comprehensiveness" is even part of the rationale for failing this nomination. At ~4200b, this article is well over the 1,500b requirement. —Wingedserif (talk) 02:17, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Having taken a quick look at this, I'm as baffled as User:Wingedserif as to why User:Figureskatingfan has reacted this harshly. I don't see "major issues with the prose"; what issues there are are minor enough to be addressed as part of this review. The paragraphs aren't unduly short and a "problem with comprehensiveness" would be relevant at Good Article Review but is odd grounds for denying a DYK. I urge the reviewer to give the author a chance to resolve the minor problems with the article. This could be a constructive and positive process, resulting in better quality articles, if we choose it to be. MartinPoulter (talk) 14:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry that I came across as harsh, I was trying to help make the article better. Yes, my comments about comprehensiveness are more general than what's needed more DYK, but I think that if the nominator followed my suggestions, it would improve it. I said that I couldn't pass it for DYK based upon the issues with the references and the utilization of sources; sorry if that wasn't made clear. I also was concerned that the same issues would appear in the sources that aren't accessible, which I suspect they do. My point is that your references need to support your statements and claims. I see that your statement about plein air painting is supported by ref3, but putting ref1 after the word "ideals," makes it look like the ref is supporting the entire phrase, including the claim about plein air painting. The solution, I think, is to put ref1 at the end of the sentence. Yes, this is being picky, but it was easy for me to assume that ref1 supports both claims when it doesn't, so the simple solution is to move the ref. I think that if an article lands on the main page, it needs to be accurate. If you fix the above issues, I'll assume that you fixed the issues about the inaccessible references and sources and will pass this for DYK. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:09, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I see that you've resolved the above issues, so I'm passing this for DYK. Unrelated to this DYK: I think that this article has great potential for improvement, so I suggest that you work on it some more. I also suggest that you remove the "Legacy" section and put the one sentence in another place in the article, until you add more content about the American Pre-Raphaelites' affect on American art. That way, you can remove the tag. Thanks, best to you. Symbol voting keep.svg Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:31, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@Figureskatingfan: yay, thank you! (And thank you for looking through the additional edits; I do appreciate the time and care you've taken with this review.) I'm glad that adding the quotes for the supporting citations helped clarify what of the existing text is supported by each source. And I absolutely agree: there are essentially three full books on the movement to expand the article, which I'm hoping to get to when my life becomes less hectic 🙃. —Wingedserif (talk) 03:11, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome. I know that it's annoying when DYK reviewers review more than what's necessary, but for me, it's because I sincerely want articles (especially those that'll appear on the main page) become as good as they can. Sometimes we need to clarify the difference between comments made for the review and the comments made for improvement sake. Make sure, after you do your research with those three books, that you submit this for GAN. Who knows, maybe you'll become our resident expert on the American Pre-Raphaelites. ; Best to you, keep up the good work. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 03:19, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I've submitted this at WP:GOCE for a copyedit. This article will pass DYK but needs minor rewording that GOCE will be able to take care of. Desertarun (talk) 08:21, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I've verified Alt0. So were good to go when the copy edit is done. Desertarun (talk) 19:36, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 9[edit]

Bullshit (G-Dragon song)

Converted from a redirect by Nkon21 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:49, 16 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg the hook reads a little awkward to me at the moment ("in respect to"? And I'd straight up say what the scandal was--marijuana and drug overdose?) and seems to present the reason for the switch as a concrete "fact", whereas in the article itself, the phrasing is more tentative ("for reasons not immediately disclosed", "many observers have speculated"). Anyway given the provocative title, the hook defo has more potential. Otherwise the other criteria seem to be met (I don't understand Korean so I'll have to AGF on the Korean sources). Cheers! Kingoflettuce (talk) 18:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your responses. Given the feedback, would this work: "... that Big Bang's G-Dragon switched his mini-album's title track from "Bullshit" to "Untitled, 2014" on the day of its release amid his bandmate's marijuana and drug overdose scandal? (same source)

Articles created/expanded on May 12[edit]

Special motion to strike

  • ... that the Ninth Circuit has held that a special motion to strike, the motion allowed by the anti-SLAPP statute in California, can be used in federal court as well as state court? Source: Batzel v. Smith, 333 F.3d 1018, 1025 (9th Cir. 2003). ("Because California law recognizes the protection of the anti-SLAPP statute as a substantive immunity from suit, this Court, sitting in diversity, will do so as well.")
    • ALT1:... that government-funded non-profits are not subject to a special motion to strike, and so are exempt from California's anti-SLAPP law? Source: Cal. Code of Civil Procedure § 425.17 subd. (d) ("Any nonprofit organization that receives more than 50 percent of its annual revenues from federal, state, or local government grants, awards, programs, or reimbursements for services rendered.")

Created by Amitabho (talk). Self-nominated at 01:05, 15 May 2021 (UTC).

  • The article is long enough and new enough. It is written in an encyclopedic style with inline references. There are a few cases of bare URLs being used as references (ref 5, 8, and 23 in the current version); please express them as formatted citations. I think ref 23 should be treated carefully: this is a "newsroom alert" by a law firm, so it is written by a professional expert but it is effectively self-published. I think the text should attribute it as the analysis of one particular firm rather than stating it as fact.
The copyvio detector finds a lot of text common between the article and existing sources, especially in the sections on Commercial speech and Exceptions, where you've reproduced some of the legal code. If we are dealing with legal text that is in the public domain, then it would be okay to reuse it: I don't know if that's the case with California State law as opposed to Federal law, so I welcome clarification on this. In the lead, the phrase "speech made in connection with an issue under consideration or review by a legislative, executive, or judicial proceeding, or any other official proceeding authorized by law" seems to be verbatim from an existing source, maybe itself drawing from the legal code. It needs to be rephrased unless the legal code itself is in the public domain, in which case the source needs to be cited. You've helpfully provided web links for most of the legal documents cited, and I have to assume good faith on the rest: if you provide web links for more of the citations, that's welcome but not mandatory.
I think the original hook is a bit hard to take in with its multiple clauses referring to three different courts, but ALT1 expresses an interesting and digestable fact. This fact is expressed in the article with a suitable inline source. A QPQ seems to be not necessary in this case as the nominator has not made 5 DYK noms. You've done good work creating an accessible overview of a piece of legislation and there are just small changes needed to get this to the required standard (fix citations and clarify the copyright status, or rephrase text where necessary). Symbol question.svg MartinPoulter (talk) 14:04, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Having looked up [4] it seems that the legal code on that site is in the public domain, so there isn't a copyright issue, but I ask you to just make sure that every time public domain text is used there is a citation to attribute it: the Commercial speech/ Exemptions sections look okay in this regard, but there is also that "speech made in connection with..." part of the lead which needs citation or rewording. MartinPoulter (talk) 14:13, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 13[edit]

On China

  • ... that On China is a 2011 book made by Henry Kissinger which provides authentic insights into the personalities of China's most infamous communist leaders Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai?
  • ALT1: ... that On China is part of an effort to make sense of China's strategy in diplomacy and foreign policy over 3000 years and part an attempt to provide an authentic insight on Chinese Communist Party leaders? Source:[1]

Created/expanded by Clancoo (talk). Self-nominated at 03:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

General eligibility:

  • New Enough: Red XN - Article became non-redirect in 2012, has yet to reach Good Article Status, and expanded beginning 13 May 2021
  • Long Enough: Green tickY

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - the book doesn't provide authentic insights; it tries to.
  • Interesting: Red XN - I think the hook should teach us something new or unexpected, not state something kind of obvious about the subject
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol delete vote.svg Author requested article review at the Teahouse, so I checked the other criteria despite quickfailing this DYK nomination for article age. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 05:05, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg There didn't have to be a "quickfailing" for article age. The nomination was submitted just three days late, and leeway is almost always given to new users for such a short amount of time. If there are other issues, Clancoo should be allowed to take care of them. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:27, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


  1. ^ Zagoria, Donald (26 August 2011). "A Review of On China. By Henry Kissinger". American Foreign Policy Interests. 33 (4): 192. doi:10.1080/10803920.2011.605718.


  • ... that the American-Israeli company BigID became a unicorn just four years after it was founded? [5]
    • ALT1:... that the American-Israeli company BigID attained an evaluation of $1 billion just four years after it was founded?
  • Comment: My first DYK. No QPQ requirement.

Created by הסיסמא123 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:44, 16 May 2021 (UTC).

My Review:
  • New Green checkmarkY Yes – indeed was published on May 16
  • Long enough Green checkmarkY Yes – far more than the minimum of 1,500 characters
  • Within policy Red X symbolN No There are concerns here. The table under "Products" does not include inline citations for all entries. Also, some very close paraphrasing picked-up by Earwig here These need to be remedied before I can approve this nomination.
  • Format – Not sure whether it is a problem that most people might not be familiar as to what the term "unicorn" means, as it relates to finance. Might limit the only proposed hook's interest to a "broad audience".
  • QPQ – Irrelevant, as this indeed is verifiably the editor's first nomination for DYK
Conclusion: I cannot approve it at this time. There are aforementioned issues with the article that must first be remedied. I'd also suggest, perhaps, that a better hook be proposed.
SecretName101 (talk) 15:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
@הסיסמא123: review conducted. Article has issues that need to be addressed. SecretName101 (talk) 15:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you @SecretName101:. I edited the article further in order to avoid close paraphrasing and added some of the text in the table with inline citations to the "Products" section. I think that being unfamiliar with the term unicorn in that context makes the hook more interesting to a "broad audience". That said, I added an alternative. הסיסמא123 (talk) 02:44, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

@הסיסמא123: Still appear to be instances of close paraphrasing (erwig) SecretName101 (talk) 14:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@SecretName101: what is the threshold that is acceptable in your eyes? הסיסמא123 (talk) 15:22, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing that verges on copyright infringement/plagiarism should not be present. 03:36, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

@SecretName101: I have made further changes and I do not think that there are any close paraphrasing that verges on copyright infringement/plagiarism. Can you please check again? הסיסמא123 (talk) 17:23, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
I've been asked to review the paraphrasing in this article. I do see portions that are too closely paraphrased from the original sources. Compare for example "The company's product combines cataloging, correlation, cluster analysis, and machine learning-based classification that assist companies to understand, detect, protect, and infer value out of their data" with "combining machine learning-based classification, cataloging, correlation, and cluster analysis to help companies better understand, protect, and derive value from their data". Nikkimaria (talk) 01:48, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback Nikkimaria. Given that erwig isn't currently indicating that there are any close paraphrasing in the article, and that the difference between close paraphrasing and paraphrasing is subjective, can you please list all of the close paraphrasing that exist today in your opinion? That would be helpful. As for the example above, do you think that "BigID's data intelligence platform includes such features as cataloging, correlation, cluster analysis, and classification, that assist their customers to protect, make sense of, and infer value out of the data stored in their systems" still constitutes close paraphrasing? If so, can you please suggest another paraphrasing? Thanks again. הסיסמא123 (talk) 19:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Earwig doesn't check for close paraphrasing; it can only assess whether there has been word-for-word copying. Close paraphrasing is assessed by direct comparison. If paraphrasing is not possible, you can always use a direct quote. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:32, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 15[edit]

T. S. Shanbhag

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 16:12, 15 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg JJonahJackalope (talk) 11:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Overall, seems good. QPQ is satisfied. Hook is cited and interesting. Article is new enough and long enough and written in a neutral tone. No pictures are used. Overall, I'm saying this is good for approval. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 11:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Hi Ktin! Unless I'm mistaken, Caroling Dusk had four articles and QPQs have been used for Jarnail Singh (doctor), Wolfgang Clement, Enuga Sreenivasulu Reddy, and S. G. Neginhal. Could you therefore provide another QPQ for this one? (I know these multi-nomination reviews are challenging to keep track of!) Thanks, DanCherek (talk) 00:07, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Profound apologies. I was busy off-wiki and totally missed this comment. Thanks to BlueMoonset for posting a message on my talk page. Thanks DanCherek. For some reason I thought this one was the last of the QPQs that I was eligible for the CD review. Mea Culpa. Let me review a different article and post a note here. Thanks all. Ktin (talk) 14:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Sheikh Jarrah property dispute

Sheikh Jarrah solidarity demonstration
Sheikh Jarrah solidarity demonstration
  • ... that the deputy mayor of Jerusalem explained that the Sheikh Jarrah eviction cases are part of a municipal strategy to create “layers of Jews” throughout East Jerusalem? Source: Evictions in Jerusalem Become Focus of Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, May 7, 2021: "But Mr. King, the deputy mayor, said “of course” they are part of a wider strategy of installing “layers of Jews” throughout East Jerusalem. That policy, Mr. King said, “is the way to secure the future of Jerusalem as a Jewish capital for the Jewish people.” “If we will not be in big numbers and if we will not be at the right places in strategic areas in East Jerusalem,” he added, then future peace negotiators “will try to divide Jerusalem and to give part of Jerusalem to our enemy.”"

Created by Enthusiast01 (talk) and Onceinawhile (talk). Nominated by Onceinawhile (talk) at 20:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The framing of King explaining what the eviction cases are doesn't seem quite right, since it implies without sourcing that that's what they really are. How about "...described the Sheikh Jarrah eviction cases as part of...", or something like that?

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed: Green tickY
  • Used in article: Green tickY
  • Clear at 100px: Red XN - Not quite clear enough at 100px, I don't think. Might need to add a different image to the article or run this without one.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The article is of course not perfect (but articles don't need to be perfect for DYK), and the talk page is quite something, as are the talk pages for a lot of articles under ARBPIA. But this nomination is eligible and almost ready to go. With that said, I've flagged two minor issues with the nom above. Once they're fixed, please use {{subst:DYK?again}} to request another reviewer to double-check. ezlevtlk/ctrbs 23:33, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ezlev: thanks for this. I am fine with your proposed amendment to the hook. Many thanks.

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Onceinawhile (talk) 07:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

  • This article is tagged for neutrality and there is an ongoing RFC in that regard. In my view, this should not proceed until it is resolved.Selfstudier (talk) 09:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Les Oréades

5x expanded by JeBonSer (talk). Self-nominated at 15:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment Badly needs a prose clean-up, & some calming down. The painting is not meaningfully "Neoclassical". Johnbod (talk) 13:16, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - n - see below
  • Interesting: Red XN - n - see below
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I am concerned about the "WilliamBouguereau.org" reference (currently ref 2). The site is described as a "personal website", not affiliated with a reputable organization or museum, an author is not given, and the site seems to be a store for buying prints of the painter's work. Therefore, I do not think it is a reliable source. Reliable sources can be found at WP:LIBRARY, Google Books and Google Scholar; I suggest that the author looks in those databases, expands the article, and suggests some new hooks. If this is completed relatively quickly I will be happy to re-review the article. Let me know if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 01:23, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

  • JeBonSer's talk page shows five DYK credits; a QPQ will be required. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:59, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @JeBonSer: to ensure they've seen the above comments. Z1720 (talk) 17:18, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 17[edit]

Double Tenth Agreement

5x expanded by Apot8511 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:55, 25 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article has been expanded enough and I assume good faith on the references that I can't access. The sentence in the lead - "The agreement was signed at what is now the Red Rock Village Museum in Chongqing." - should be referenced and it would probably be best for it to also be in the body of the article. The first paragraph in the China in 1945 section needs citations. "The battles resulted in a victory for Mao and the CCP which skewed the negotiations to Mao's favour." under the Events section needs a citation at the end, but I do see that the information is in the citation in the next paragraph so it should be easy to just repeat it up above. The last two issues are that the 5th reference and the 36th reference have formatting errors. SL93 (talk) 18:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)


  • ... that Lajia was the place where the world's oldest noodles were found?
  • Comment: The source of the hook fact can be found in reference 6.

5x expanded by Jehbe3412 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg. I cannot establish that this article has been expanded 5x between the 7 May and the 17 May. Even if I take the most generous bracket of time (i.e. not counting the subsequent downsizing by Keith D), I am supposed to compare the version of 02:06, 26 April 2021‎ with the version of 13:45, 17 May 2021‎. For the first version, DYKCheck gives me 1914 characters and 328 words. For the second version, DYKCheck gives me 5882 characters and 982 words. JBchrch talk 20:07, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg There was one edit which was a 2 x expansion. The nom has only ever made 3 edits and no amount of leeway could get this close. Desertarun (talk) 11:19, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for letting me know, I will be expanding the Lajia article further. Jehbe3412 (talk) 21:15, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg As of today, DYKcheck is showing a 5x expansion starting on May 17, seven days prior to the nomination; the nominator made the additions within 48 hours of the above post. Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

English Building, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign

  • ... that according to campus legend, the English Building at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign is haunted by the ghost of a female student who drowned in the building's pool? Students using the building have reported mysterious phenomena and the faint voice of a woman sounding from nowhere." Source:[6]

Created by Chevsapher (talk). Nominated by JustinMal1 (talk) at 13:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article new and long enough, generally well written but poorly sourced. I would go so far as to say most of the article is unsourced or the sources aren't clear. I also highly recommend moving the article to English Building, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. Just about every university will have an "English building", and many of them will be officially called that, let alone all the buildings named after people called English, or representing England at various events. It needs the disambiguation unless you think it's undoubtedly the main thing in existence referred to as "English building" (the answer is no, it isn't). What sources are used appear to be almost entirely primary sources, not indicating that it has outside notability. I am also concerned that Chevsapher has undisclosed COI (editing behavior)? Similarly, I would like more information on the licenses for the images in the article. But you and JustinMal1 still have a few more days to work on the article before it would even be too late to nominate for DYK, and I'd offer a grace period for improvements after that date (24th) too. Kingsif (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the helpful feedback. To address your points:
  • ~95% of the article is sourced, and the few statements that are not sourced are common general knowledge. If I need to change the citation style, I am happy to do so.
  • I like the suggestion about creating disambiguation page, and I saw that JustinMal1 just moved the article to the suggested namespace.
  • Concerning the potential COI, I am a student at the university, but I am not affiliated with the units that occupy the building. If this is still qualifiable as a COI, I will stop editing University of Illinois articles.
  • The images' origins and licenses are explained on their Wikimedia pages. The photos I personally uploaded are photos I took myself.
  • I tried to avoid primary sources, but I will agree that many of the secondary sources are internal to the university. To add more external sources, I would need to dig more into two main reasons why the building is externally relevant, which are (1) it was designed by the pre-eminent architectural firm of the Beaux-Arts era, and (2) it was the home of one of the most influential early home economics departments in the U.S., whose research helped drive the early-20th-century revolution in domestic efficiency. I would love to flesh out this article more fully, but unfortunately, my time is limited. I cannot yet commit to spending a few full days with a stack of books.
Chevsapher (talk) 17:51, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Greenlandic people in Denmark

Created by Carrolquadrio (talk). Self-nominated at 07:29, 27 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment please note that the nomination was new enough originally, but was a broken submission for a few weeks. Therefore, it should be judged against the date of May 27, not June 20. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:15, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is currently only a fivefold expansion as of the date of April 13, unfortunately. The next possibility is the expansion that began May 17, starting from 3602 prose characters, meaning that the article would need to expand to 18010 prose characters. At the moment, the article is 14579 prose characters, so another 3431 prose characters need to be added. In addition, the article in that case would have been nominated ten days after the May 17 expansion began rather than seven days; since this is a new user, leniency could be allowed for the three-day delay if the further expansion is done. Carrolquadrio, Elli, is a further expansion feasible, and could it be done soon? Thanks for the submission and coming back to it. I've corrected the self-nomination date, and will be moving this to May 17, the day the relevant expansion began. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:43, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 18[edit]

Gourd mouth organ

Art from Tang dynasty showing a musician playing the mouth organ (2nd left)
Art from Tang dynasty showing a musician playing the mouth organ (2nd left)
  • ... that the Gourd mouth organ (pictured) was invented 3000 years ago? Source: Sachs, C. (2012). The history of musical instruments. Courier Corporation. ISBN 0486171515
    • ALT1:... that the Gourd mouth organ (pictured) is believed to be invented by Chinese goddess Nüwa?
    • ALT2:... that the tallest Gourd mouth organ (pictured) can go up to about 12 feet? Source: Chapman, A. (2005). Breath and bamboo: Diasporic Lao identity and the Lao mouth-organ. Journal of Intercultural Studies, 26(1-2), 5-20.
    • ALT3: ... that the Gourd mouth organ (pictured) was invented in the third millennium B.C. and the tallest can go up to about twelve feet? Source: Sachs, C. (2012). The history of musical instruments. Courier Corporation. ISBN 0486171515. p 184.; Chapman, A. (2005). Breath and bamboo: Diasporic Lao identity and the Lao mouth-organ. Journal of Intercultural Studies, 26(1-2), 5-20.

5x expanded by Ryssian (talk). Self-nominated at 02:11, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg, ALT & ALT2. (ALT1, has no source, and doesn't make clear who holds that belief). New enough (expanded), Long enough, Within policy (neutral, sourced, copyright free, interesting hook, 1st nomination for QPQ, and image is fine. perhaps ALTs could be combined. Bogger (talk) 10:23, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you very much for your feedback! Ryssian (talk) 22:31, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Note: I've restored the original hooks, which should be left in place, and labeled the new hook ALT3. Desertarun, does ALT3 work? I'm concerned about the "third millennium B.C." mention, since the article says "believed to be" and then goes on to note that the earliest recorded mention is 1100 B.C. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I've checked the hook refs and I'm finding it tricky. Sachs says "THE MOUTH ORGAN (Chinese shêng, Japanese shô) was originally made with a gourd. Today the gourd is replaced by a piece of wood cut in the same" and later "In China the mouth organ is said to have been invented by Emperor Nyu-kwa in the third millennium B.C. as an imitation of the bird Phoenix" and "In the most highly developed form of the raft-shaped mouth organ, in Middle and South Laos, the two rafts, sometimes as tall as twelve feet, are laid on top of each other and this double raft pierces through an elongated, wooden windchest". Sachs is discussing mouth organs not specifically gourd mouth organs, making me wonder if these refs are applicable or not. I don't know? Desertarun (talk) 19:07, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 20[edit]

Enamorado Por Primera Vez, List of Billboard Latin Pop Airplay number ones of 1997

  • Reviewed: pending
  • Comment: Enamorado Por Primera Vez achieved GA status and List of Billboard Latin Pop Airplay number ones of 1997 was expanded 5 fivefold

Created/expanded by Magiciandude (talk). Self-nominated at 22:00, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Review by Tbhotch

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Below
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg @Magiciandude: *insert confused screams*. The hook says that Enamorado charted for "11 weeks"; the article lists 10 weeks, and the source says 12 weeks. Also, in May 24, you sourced May 3. I don't see any major problem with "Enamorado" itself. (CC) Tbhotch 23:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 21[edit]

Jimmy Carter 1976 presidential campaign

A campaign button from Carter's 1976 presidential campaign.
A campaign button from Carter's 1976 presidential campaign.

Created by Kavyansh.Singh (talk). Self-nominated at 17:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Kavyansh.Singh: The main hook is incorrect. I remember that campaign well. They called him "Jimmy who?" because most people had never heard of him outside of the US State of Georgia. Even Carter joked about himself as "Jimmy who?" He was popular enough to win the nomination for the Democratic candidate, and popular enough to win the election. His popularity as President took some hits because of national issues he had to deal with. But it was never an issue in the 1976 Presidential campaign. — Maile (talk) 18:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @Maile66: Hi, thanks for your comments. By saying unpopularity, I ment the same that he was not popular or less known throughout the nation except Georgia. If you think the hook needs rephrasing, kindly suggest as it is almost 200 characters. Also, alt 1 can be considered. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:23, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @Kavyansh.Singh: I'll leave the rephrasing to somebody else. But now I understand your reasoning. Thanks for replying. — Maile (talk) 18:31, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Just to be clear, I was not reviewing this, just making a comment on the wording. I leave the review to a different reviewer, who will review the hook wording and everything else. Good luck. — Maile (talk) 10:53, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 Comment: "lack of name recognition" or "unfamiliarity to voters" might be the phrase you are looking for that first hook, not "unpopularity". "Unpopularity" would be misunderstood to mean that he had low-approval. SecretName101 (talk) 15:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi @SecretName101: Thanks for your comments, I have made the changes, but that makes the hook slightly over 200 characters. What else can be changed to make it under the limit of characters. Also, I have made some changes in Alt 1, which makes it better. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:59, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
I'd rephrase ALT2 as "mocked for his unfamiliarity". The missing "his" makes it grammatically incorrect. SecretName101 (talk) 17:25, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
@SecretName101:  Done But the issue is that the image doesn't relate with the hook of Alt 1. I'd still prefer cutting short main hook by removing "Jimmy who?" part. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:34, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Collapsing resolved concerns about button image's public domain status. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 04:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Why is the button image free? It's a 1976 image, so it didn't need copyright to be registered, and it's before Carter was president, so not a US Federal govt image ... ? --GRuban (talk) 16:58, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
GRuban Just to be clear, I did not upload the original image, just cropped a image already available on commons (File:Jimmy Carter Library and Museum 16.JPG). It was uploaded almost 11 years ago by Piotrus which is licensed as user's own work (under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license) It states "Jimmy Carter Library and Museum" in description, so I guess that the image has been photographed by the user from Carter Library. The Carter Library states "Much of the audiovisual materials, including all White House-produced photographs, motion picture films, and audiotapes, are in the public domain. Other material, such as donated items and White House Communications Agency news videotapes, are subject to copyright law." (Source) It just needs to be clarified by an commons admin that photographs clicked by users from Presidential Libraries are in Public domain or not? Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Agree. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Campaign_buttons_from_the_United_States_presidential_election,_1976 That's why those Commons admins make the big bucks... --GRuban (talk) 18:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 Done: The image is fine, as User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) pointed out, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-US-no_notice covers it, conveniently extends to 1977! --GRuban (talk) 00:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
GRuban, Glad this is resolved, and glad my pic is useful here :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:57, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 22[edit]

Ludwig Wüllner

Ludwig Wüllner c. 1910
Ludwig Wüllner c. 1910

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:24, 29 May 2021 (UTC).

  • New enough (just barely), long enough. QPQ done. While Earwig picks up this as almost identical to the German article, I find it more likely that they were the ones stealing. Slight neutrality issues ("impressive", "fascinating" shouldn't be stated in Wikipedia's voice). The "Roles" section is entirely unsourced. Caption for the grave picture should be translated, and I don't quite see the point of the ad. Thesis title is mixed German/English and not in the source cited. (Untranslating the English part probably fixes that, see the thesis). I find it fascinating that he had a PhD and an abortive academic career before becoming a singer. But your hook works (may want to add "pictured"), and is within the rules. Symbol question.svg as some points about the article should be improved (neutrality, unreferenced section). —Kusma (talk) 23:22, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
    Thank you for looking into this, a tough one, long, translated from German not by me! - I avoided the two words. I'd just drop the roles list, if it wasn't to not leave the images without something on the left. No idea yet where to look for a ref. The ad tells me that this person will have attracted listeners by just his name, but sure, I know that only from being able to read German. Caption translated. - We could drop the roles and those two pics and be done, right? On the other hand, that's an impressive list. I'll try, help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    ALT0a: ... that Ludwig Wüllner (pictured) sang in the U.S. premiere of Mahler's Kindertotenlieder in 1910, conducted by the composer? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    Thank you, this is better. Without any sourcing, I am not a fan of the Roles section: we know nothing of the context (they could all have been private viewings for the Duke of Meiningen, or they could be on his international tours). In the classic style of the German Wikipedia, we are given a list with dozens of places where sources might be, but no indication of what the sources of the article truly are. —Kusma (talk) 10:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    Agree. Let me see if I can find something but that will be later today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    Take your time. —Kusma (talk) 15:34, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    There are quite some sources in English, including Grove Music Online (available through TWL I think, I got it through my library at work) and various old music journals. Did you know that he was referred to as the singer without a voice? —Kusma (talk) 23:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    Great finds, thank you! Friederike Mayröcker died, new article to be written should be linked from the Main page tomorrow, PR comments, - patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne

Title page of the 1667 collection containing the song
Title page of the 1667 collection containing the song
  • Reviewed: Portrait of a Woman with Mask
  • Comment: The sentence from the title page of the collection in which it is printed would be too long for DYK. Here for illustration purposes, - I guess it won't be taken anyway. "getting up" (or "rising"?) is meant in a broad sense: in the morning, from distress, perhaps even even from the dead. Help with wording welcome.

Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:26, 25 May 2021 (UTC).

  • New enough, promoted to GA on May 22. Long enough, at over 10,000 characters. Assuming sources were checked at GAN. Neutral, no plagiarism. Hook cited, interesting. No copyvios with image, used in article. QPD done. Is there a reason there's no second hook? If so, and since the one hook that's here is fine, I'll pass this to DYK if you make a good case for suggesting only one hook.
  • Here's my suggestion for your hook: ... that in the song [or hymn] "Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne", the poet found a new metre, and the composer a new melody, to reflect the difficulty in getting up in the morning? It's under 200 characters and although it doesn't exactly follow the wording in the article, I think a slight rewording is fine for DYK. It also makes it more relatable; I mean, which of us has experienced not wanting to get up in the morning? Me, just this morning! ;) Symbol question.svg Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Lakshmeshwara Jain temples

Shanka Basadi
Shanka Basadi

Created/expanded by Pratyk321 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:54, 22 May 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 23[edit]

Mahmut Bozteke

  • ... that Mahmut Bozteke, whose arms were crippled in an accident, started performing Para Taekwondo after his physiotherapist's advise, who discovered that "he can use his legs very well instead"? Source: "Mahmut Bozteke, azmi sayesinde para-tekvandoda ...", "... kollarını çalışır vaziyetteki traktörün kuyruk miline kaptırdı. Kopan kolları ameliyatla dikilen ancak bu uzuvlarını dilediği gibi kullanamadığı için ...", (in Turkish) [8], "... fizyoterapistin "Ayaklarını iyi kullanıyorsun, bence iyi tekvando yaparsın" tavsiyesiyle ,..." (in Turkish) [9]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 12:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC).

  • The word "crippled" is widely deprecated and even considered offensive, please rephrase it with neutral terminology. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:18, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @Dodger67: Thank you for your warning. Is "disabled" acceptable instead of "crippled"? CeeGee 05:52, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
  • CeeGee, the article says his arms were amputated in an accident, I think it's better to be more specific. However, the article has several language issues, probably due to an inadequate translation of the sources. Imho it needs quite a bit of cleanup work before it's ready for this DYK. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Dodger67: Thank you for your efforts. From a YouTube video, I can see that he has arms but somehow in damaged condition. The source says that tissue taken off his legs were implemented in his arms. So, he is not an amputee. Anyway, I will apply to the Guild of Copy Editors for the language issues. CeeGee 12:27, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Obed Dickinson

Obed Dickinson with his wife and children.
Obed Dickinson with his wife and children.
  • ... that American abolitionists didn't necessarily believe in racial equality – Obed Dickinson (pictured), an abolitionist pastor in Oregon in the mid-1800s, advocated for racial equality and ultimately lost his job for it? Source: "The information about abolitionists and equality is found in the first paragraph in the Abolitionist section. Information about Obed Dickinson resigning from his job is found in the last paragraph in the Abolitionist section"
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: This is Bridges2Information's first nomination.

Moved to mainspace by Bridges2Information (talk). Nominated by Bridges2Information (talk) at 18:18, 26 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - "Supported in the article" isn't quite enough here. Please cite specific sources that are used in the article and explicitly support the hook.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The hook is over 200 characters. It also seems to generalize ("American abolitionists didn't necessarily believe in racial equality") from the actual fact (Obed Dickinson was fired), and although I didn't read all the sources, it doesn't seem completely clear from the article that he was fired because other abolitionists disagreed with him.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg This could run, but it needs some work first. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 04:49, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Marie Antoinette with a Rose

  • ... that the previous portrait that illustrates Marie Antoinette wearing a muslin dress before Marie Antoinette with a Rose (pictured) was painted, is the subject's favourite dress? Source: "Vigée-Le Brun presented notably a new portrait of the Queen wearing the “gaulle” or “blouse dress”. Adapted to Parisian fashion by the dressmaker Rose Bertin, this muslin dress was the Queen’s favourite one during her stays at the Petit Trianon, away from the court. The visitors of the Salon were shocked by this portrait: in their view the Queen was not dressed as befitted her rank. So the painting was quickly withdrawn. Vigée-Le Brun then quickly painted a second portrait to be exhibited before the end of the Salon." Google Arts & Culture

Created by JeBonSer (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg Length (just barely) and reference verified ... however:
  • How sure are we that Google Arts & Culture is an RS? Mightn't we be better with the original text from Versailles if it's available, or from a reputable art site or book?
  • I think the body text should be rewritten a little more so it doesn't use so much of the same phrasing as the Google page. It passed a copyvio check, but still ...
  • And frankly, this hook would be better off for an article about that previous painting. Or rewritten to be more about this one. As it is it's like we had an article about a building and a hook about the one next door to it.
Daniel Case (talk) 23:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
OK, that takes care of the third issue I had, but not the other two. Daniel Case (talk) 17:52, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Pointing out that JeBonSer's talk page shows five DYK credits; a QPQ will be required. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:03, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
To clarify, the submitted QPQ review was previously used on Template:Did you know nominations/Portrait of Madame Jacques-Louis Leblanc, which was promoted to the main page on June 9. As a QPQ may only be used once, the one here cannot be reused and a new QPQ review will need to be performed. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:49, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 25[edit]

Saint George Killing the Dragon

  • ... that Saint George Killing the Dragon (pictured) was once placed at the center of the altar in Barcelona's chapel that was dedicated to Saint George? Source: "Conceived in the elegant, decorative International Gothic style, the painting was originally the center of an altarpiece dedicated to Saint George that was apparently made for the chapel of the palace of the Catalan government in Barcelona." Art Institute Chicago

Created by JeBonSer (talk). Self-nominated at 03:45, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @JeBonSer: This article is new enough and long enough. The image is in the public domain, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and a QPQ has been done. The article could do with a copyedit, and I don't like the Bibliography section one bit. What is the point of it? It comes straight from the Art Institute Chicago website and doesn't seem relevant to an encyclopedia article; I reckon it is plagiarism and suggest you remove it. I am going to ask @Johnbod: for a second opinion on this. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:47, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Sigh - as soon as you see "it is now currently displayed at the Art Institute of Chicago" (my bold), you know who the author is! That's despite me telling him only recently. I agree about the "bibliography" - a couple of recent ones (in English) in "Further reading" would be fine, but not this. Johnbod (talk) 21:25, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Cwmhiraeth: Per Johnbod suggestion I replaced the heading title from "Bibliography" to "Further reading" and I retain the English publications on the "Further reading" section. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 05:00, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Returning hook from prep as per discussion on the DYK talk page. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:14, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
  • QPQ done. I replace it now with my current reviewed DYK. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 11:00, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The following were my comments at WT:DYK that didn't touch on the QPQ issue:

I am also concerned about the article's sourcing and use thereof. What makes the Google Arts & Culture site reliable (I've found basic fact issues with their articles before), and, for that matter, the Web Gallery of Art, which seems to have been created by a retired physicist and a computer scientist. (That WGoA entry reads as if it were taken, uncredited, from a book of paintings.) While I have no quarrel with the Art Institute of Chicago, I am concerned with how the material is being used: the article states, in Wikipedia's voice, The artist also littered skulls and bones on the ground with lizards to make it look gritty. This claim of artistic intent comes somehow from the source's Martorell also treated the ground, littered with bones and crawling with lizards, in a lively manner, giving it a gritty texture.

Once the article is pulled for the needed replacement QPQ, I recommend that it be given a closer examination before being passed again.

JeBonSer, these issues need to addressed. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:30, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
This needs more than a bit of a copyedit. Gritty--"to make it look gritty"? There is no antecedent for it. The sentence that starts "Dressed in a robe" is ungrammatical. I don't know how a scene can rise steeply, and that sentence has a comma splice. The next sentence has an unwarranted "however", and "this valley"--which valley? And "that separates from the foreground to the background"--what does it separate? "We can determine"--we don't do "we". I was thinking that might have been a copyvio, but it's not, it's an unsuccessful attempt at paraphrase. No, there is no way this should be on the front page.

Johnbod and Cwmhiraeth commented on the Bibliography, which wasn't, and is now a Further reading--first of all, I'm going to pretend I never read that "It comes straight from the Art Institute Chicago website", and pretend that I think that the article writer actually knows this material, which is what should have happened--so why, with that plethora of sourcing, is the author settling for three lousy websites? No, this is not OK. Drmies (talk) 22:42, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

BlueMoonset, I had a look at what seems to be a very, very cursory review of St. Nikolaus von Flüe, Wörsdorf. Template:Did you know nominations/St. Nikolaus von Flüe, Wörsdorf is ticked off, without any real commentary. Now, that article is one of Gerda's and so it's a pretty safe bet that it's mostly unproblematic, but the reviewer really should have noticed a couple of things, and they didn't. Drmies (talk) 22:58, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Living in the Age of Airplanes

Created by Gerald Waldo Luis (talk). Self-nominated at 09:22, 27 May 2021 (UTC).

  • QPQ needed. Joofjoof (talk) 22:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
  • May I suggest asking for a copyedit? It's an impressively long article, but is full of awkward sentences like "He, who wrote the narration with Jessica Grogan,[3] chose to show difficulty of life pre-aviation to make the film relatable." --GRuban (talk) 14:47, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • GRuban, I did a set of copyedits, including regarding the Jessica Grogan bit. What do you think now? GeraldWL 14:29, 12 June 2021 (UTC)


Quesabirria in California
Quesabirria in California
  • ... that quesabirria (pictured) became a "full-fledged phenomenon" in the United States through Instagram posts? [1][2]
    • ALT1:... that foodies will travel great distances and wait in line for hours to eat quesabirria (pictured)? [1]
    • ALT2:... that quesabirria (pictured) is "a cross between a taco and a quesadilla"? [1]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eye of Horus
  • Comment: I am never savvy at nominating DYK's, but, I realized I have been writing a lot and figured I'd give it a go. I'm totally open minded on the DYK for this one. I can also provide more sourcing, if needed. Any excuse for yummy food to be on the front page of Wikipedia.

Created by Missvain (talk). Self-nominated at 17:25, 25 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg - QPQ done. Hooks are policy compliant, article is new and long enough. However, some stuff needs worked on before this is good to run. Uncited sentence at the end of the history section, not seeing where the facts in ALT1 are in the article unless I totally missed it, and the direct quote for ALT0 needs to have a citation directly following the sentence in the article containing the quote. Interesting article, and I would totally eat this food. Hog Farm Talk 05:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)


  1. ^ a b c Tsai, Luke (2019-11-21). "How Quesabirria Became the Bay Area's Hottest Taco Trend". Eater SF. Retrieved 25 May 2021.
  2. ^ Kindelsperger, Nick (2020-09-08). "Meet the quesabirria, Chicago's new cheesy, beefy and messy taco obsession". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 25 May 2021.

Articles created/expanded on May 26[edit]

Big Time Wrestling (Boston)

Moved to mainspace by (talk). Nominated by (talk) at 19:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Battle of Sambisa Forest (2021)

  • ... that Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau's tone indicated that he "was near the end" during a sermon one day before his forces were defeated during the Battle of Sambisa Forest (2021)? Source: "Shekau, for his part, gave a final sermon on the day before his death that has been leaked publicly. He indicated that many of his fighters had been killed and the group was facing calamities. Shekau said he would never be loyal to anybody. His tone also suggested he knew was near the end. However, the dramatic fashion in which he reportedly ended his life evidently took ISWAP by surprise and, for the first time in several years, Nigeria will enter a post-Shekau era." (Killing of Boko Haram Leader Abubakar Shekau Boosts Islamic State in Nigeria, p. 2)

Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 11:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 27[edit]

John Aitken (biologist)

  • ... that John Aitken is a British reproductive biologist, but moved to Australia since 1997, and he published over 450 research in animal and human reproductive studies? Source:
    • ALT1:... that John Aitken first discovered oxidative stress as a major cause of male infertility? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Tempstent (talk). Self-nominated at 00:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article has been expanded enough and in time. Earwig states there is a 44.4% similiarity to one of the references, but they are things that can't be sufficiently reworded - most of the matches are names of places, titles, and awards. I assume good faith on the references that I can't access. A QPQ is not needed. There is one remaining issue in the article - The 19th reference goes to the Scopus home page. I will approve ALT1 once that issue is fixed. SL93 (talk) 19:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 28[edit]

Chetana Nagavajara

  • ... that Chetana Nagavajara is the first person to receive two doctorates, one Dr.Phil. and one Dr.h.c., from the University of Tübingen? Source: "... เพราะมหาวิทยาลับทือบิงเงินเอง แม้ไม่มีกฎข้อห้ามแต่ก็ไม่มีระเบียบกฎเกณฑ์ว่าด้วยเรื่องมอบปริญญาซ้ำ การมอบปริญญาดุษฎีบัณฑิตกิตติมศักดิ์แก่เจตนา นาควัชระผู้เป็นดุษฎีบัณฑิตของมหาวิทยาลัยแห่งนี้อยู่แล้ว ... จึงนับเป็นกรณีแรก" ([18])

5x expanded by Taweetham (talk). Nominated by Karto1 (talk) at 07:23, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date, size, notability, QPQ, copyvio spotcheck, all good. But I find the hook very boring - it's the type of trivia nobody cares about. The article suffers from some peacock wording (the lead has an uncited claim that "he is renowned in Thailand"). How about we reference what he is "renowned" for and build a hook centered on this? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:30, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you very much for the review. With the mentioned issue, I propose another hook which centers more around Dr. Chetana's work.
  • ALT1: ... that Chetana Nagavajara initiated and led arts criticism research projects in Thailand in the early 2000s? Source: Nagavajara, Chetana (2003). Criticism as an Intellectual Force in Contemporary Society: Summary Report of a Research Project. Thailand Research Fund. ISBN 9749165004. --Karto1 (talk) 11:06, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-cursive script

  • ... that since Chinese calligraphy is disappearing due to the introduction of solid writing tools, a robotic arm was programmed to replicate semi-cursive script writing using the writing brush 17 years ago? Source: "Yao, Fenghui; Shao, Guifeng; Yi, Jianqiang (January 2004). "Trajectory generation of the writing–brush for a robot arm to inherit block–style Chinese character calligraphy techniques". Advanced Robotics. 18 (3): 331–356. doi:10.1163/156855304322972477. ISSN 0169-1864."
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Expanded by MeipleLeaf (talk). Self-nominated at 03:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article has over 1,500 characters in prose. Article was not expanded 5 times its size at the time of nomination but it has been remedied since. Article is written in a neutral tone and is adequately sourced, but the refimprove tag added in 2013 still is a concern. In the "Writing conventions" and "Computer encoding" sections, there's some unnecessary capitalization in the headers. lullabying (talk) 07:22, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Additional comments: this is the user's first nomination so a QPQ is not needed at this time. I assume good faith on offline sources. For the hook, I would suggest getting rid of the first part of the sentence as it makes the hook wordy. ALT1 was not suggested; did you intend on including it? lullabying (talk) 07:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 29[edit]

The Angel with Golden Hair

The Angel with Golden Hair by an unknown Russian artist
The Angel with Golden Hair by an unknown Russian artist

Created by JeBonSer (talk). Self-nominated at 10:03, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New and long enough, QPQ done, hook is interested and cited. No copyvio detected. AGF on the Russian sources! Kingoflettuce (talk) 19:39, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
My donation. Here is an unused QPQ. Template:Did you know nominations/Shmuel Abba Twersky. Consider it to be a gift, my contribution to the project. Cheers. 7&6=thirteen () 17:48, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Face-wink.svg Thanks: 7&6=thirteen. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 11:10, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Pinging Johnbod and Ceoil to see whether this article meets appropriate standards for an artwork. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:56, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks! Certainly notable. I've touched up the prose; I think the intended meaning was clear. Not all the wierd formatting, with nbsp eveywhere, done. I think ok now. Johnbod (talk) 14:55, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, Johnbod. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 15:33, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 30[edit]

Jack White (music producer)

Jack White during his football career (1965)
Jack White during his football career (1965)

5x expanded by Lachlad (talk). Nominated by Carrolquadrio (talk) at 09:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Err the wording should be 'German former footballer' and NOT 'former German football player'. GiantSnowman 11:29, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Giant this is now corrected Carrolquadrio (talk) 00:50, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I think my problem is the article hasn't obviously been 5x expanded during the time period. I'm taking this diff as the last one before expansion, at 1532B, then this one as after expansion at only 6700B, or about 1,000 short. A shame, as I was hoping we could find a hook that would confuse the reader with the more famous Jack White. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:43, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Tiféret Israel Synagogue attack

  • ... that the Tiféret Israel Synagogue, the oldest in Caracas, Venezuela, was profanated during the 2008–2009 Gaza War? BBC: "An armed gang has ransacked the oldest Jewish synagogue in the Venezuelan capital Caracas after occupying the building for several hours. (...) Jewish leaders say tensions have risen since Venezuela broke diplomatic relations with Israel this month over its recent military offensive in Gaza."

Created/expanded by NoonIcarus (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 30 May 2021 (UTC).

  • ALT1: ... that the Tiféret Israel Synagogue, the oldest in Caracas, Venezuela, was profaned during the 2008–2009 Gaza War? BBC: "An armed gang has ransacked the oldest Jewish synagogue in the Venezuelan capital Caracas after occupying the building for several hours. (...) Jewish leaders say tensions have risen since Venezuela broke diplomatic relations with Israel this month over its recent military offensive in Gaza."
  • Symbol delete vote.svg You have nominated the wrong article. I suggest you start again. When you do, make sure you use the correct article in the hook. Schwede66 10:27, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Schwede66: I'm so sorry, I thought I linked the article in question. Is it possible to reformat the current hook in order to solve this? The name of the nomination is the same of the article. NoonIcarus (talk) 11:24, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Given that this nomination page does indeed refer to the correct article, you could just add a new hook (ALT1). At DYK, we don’t reformat hooks as the discussion about the nomination would become messy; we simply add new hooks. I’ve started it for you; just add to it. Schwede66 17:45, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Schwede66: Thank you very much. I have striken the old hook and included an alternate one with a new format, linking and bolding to the nominated article. Please let me know if there are any other changes, and my apologies for the inconveniences. NoonIcarus (talk) 22:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The substantial issue has been fixed and this can now go to review (not my area of interest, so I shall pass). I suggest the the "article expansion" tag is a problem, though. It's a maintenance tag and as far as I know, we don't run articles with maintenance tags. Schwede66 23:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • "Profanated" is not a word - "profaned" is. Johnbod (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Johnbod: My apologies. I have striken the typo and fixed the word. I hope that the MoS of the nominations allow this. NoonIcarus (talk) 20:26, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Thks - I just substituted the correct word (although possibly other ones are better), which is usual here. To be clear, I was just commenting, not starting a review. Johnbod (talk) 21:37, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Nilima Arun Kshirsagar

Created by Sachinvenga (talk). Self-nominated at 12:29, 30 May 2021 (UTC).

Presidential transition of Franklin D. Roosevelt

On the way to his inauguration, President-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt (right) shares a car ride with outgoing president Herbert Hoover
On the way to his inauguration, President-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt (right) shares a car ride with outgoing president Herbert Hoover

Created by SecretName101 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:51, 6 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. It is well sourced, but I did add a citation needed tag that needs to be addressed. The article appears to be written neutrally, I think it would be aided by merging some of those one-sentence paragraphs, but that's not a DYK requirement. Hook facts are in the article and cited. ALT0 is supported by the second paragraph of "Aftermath", ALT1 has its own subsection, ALT2 is there too but a little less visible (I see a mention of tension in the lead and a "tense car ride", the "failure to cooperate"). I'll approve them all. The image is PD. QPQ is provided. Just need that lame duck bill sourced. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 31[edit]

Josh Phillips (murderer)

  • ... that Harry Shorstein, the prosecutor who advocated for Josh Phillips to be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole when he was a child, has voiced regret about the severity of his sentence? Source: [19]
    • ALT1:... that Josh Phillips, who was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for murdering his eight-year-old friend when he was 14, is eligible for re-sentencing in 2023? Source: [20]

Improved to Good Article status by Damien Linnane (talk). Self-nominated at 14:03, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

Habibur Rahman Khairabadi

  • Reviewed: Elena Urrutia
  • Comment: Article is good enough and well-cited. 1569 characters. Will be adding few extra things timely.

Created by TheAafi (talk). Self-nominated at 02:35, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 1[edit]

32nd anniversary of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests


Created by Ohconfucius (talk). Self-nominated at 12:20, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

June Fernández

June Fernández
June Fernández

Created by Victuallers (talk) and Throughthemind. Self-nominated at 12:23, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

Santiaogou Republic

  • ... that Chinese-descended mining federations in Indonesia, like the Santiaogou Federation, fought bitter battles with the Dutch to preserve their democratic forms of government in the early 19th century? Source: [21]
    • ALT1:... that Chinese-descended mining federations in Indonesia, like the Santiaogou Federation, engaged in conflict with the colonial Dutch to preserve their democratic forms of government in the early 1800s? Source: [22]

Created/expanded by Theeelman (talk). Self-nominated at 16:00, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I did not see any source in the nomination currently. Also I propose it to be reworded so it sounds more neutral, as for "democratic forms of government", you need to prove it with source that saying they were democratic. If there isnt any, probably it should be removed from the hook. But the article is indeed interesting. Nyanardsan (talk) 22:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi! Thanks for the interest in the article, I've updated it accordingly. The sources I've put have proof that the federations had a unique democratic government with roots in Chinese village societies (late Dutch scholars have classified them as "republics"). Theeelman (talk) 22:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Theeelman: The nomination looks great so far, thanks for updating it! Definitely prefer ALT1 hook. The article is long enough and new enough relative to the nomination date. The sources are from Library of Western Belvedere, which says on the website has connection with Fuzhou University and the source page itself has inline citations, so I assume it's reliable. This is your first nomination and first five nominations, QPQ is irrelevant. However, there's still one another problem. DYK rule of thumb is that the article should have at least one minimum inline citation per paragraph excluding the lead. Can you please add citations to uncited paragraphs? Other than that, it's been quite good. Nyanardsan (talk) 23:23, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 2[edit]

Christa Ludwig (writer)

  • ... that Christa Ludwig, known for fiction for young readers, related to horses, received a prize for a novel about Else Lasker-Schüler's late years in Jerusalem? Source: several

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 13:14, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

Theodolinda Hahnsson

Theodolinda Hahnsson in 1916
Theodolinda Hahnsson in 1916

Created by Tamingimpala (talk). Self-nominated at 09:21, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Only most important details should be in the lead section. You must place the other details to its article's body; and each end of paragraph should have at least one reference. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 14:09, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Annie Kanahele

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 04:09, 3 June 2021 (UTC).

Everett report, Lulu G. Stillman, Edward A. Everett (New York politician)

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 3[edit]

Metta Lillie

Created by Tamingimpala (talk). Self-nominated at 09:43, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Royal Hibernian Hotel

  • ... that the Royal Hibernian Hotel is thought to be the oldest known hotel in Ireland? Source: "The origin of the Royal Hibernian Hotel, Dawson Street, goes back to 1751, which makes it the oldest known hotel in Ireland."

Created by Ritchie333 (talk) and Smirkybec (talk). Self-nominated at 15:56, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Suggesting "oldest hotel", because "thought to be" already conveys that it's a good guess, but a "oldest known hotel" suggests that there are some "unknown hotels" knocking about. Bogger (talk) 19:35, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Bogger: The problem with that, is that from my experience, somebody will probably complain at WP:ERRORS that "oldest hotel" is not sufficiently verified when this hits the main page. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Will review...@Ritchie333: & @Smirkybec:...in meantime check Woodenbridge Hotel. Firsts and oldest are sometimes difficult. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
The source says the Woodenbridge Hotel was founded in 1608 as a coaching inn, which is not quite the same thing, although particularly archaically the term "hotel" has been used for what we might today call a "pub". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:05, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Good discussion @Ritchie333:. What is the difference between "inn" and "hotel"? "The Royal Hibernian Hotel had been there for two centuries, beginning life as a coaching inn." [24]... Another first...Old Glenbigh Hotel[25]? Otherwise so far...new enough, no copyvio issues, long enough, QPQ provided. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:12, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Well I'm not a reliable source, but as I understand it, an "inn" is somewhere you stayed overnight as part of an overall journey, while a "hotel" is somewhere you stayed as a temporary accommodation at the end of it. Since you can nowadays drive from Malin to Mizen in a day, this distinction has fallen out of use. As for what to do with the hook and the article, ALT1 : ... that the Royal Hibernian Hotel is thought to be one of the oldest hotels in Ireland? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Sorry for delayed reply. Did they all start as inns? Are these correct: The Royal Hibernian Hotel started in 1751 as a coaching inn [26]. Woodenbridge Hotel was founded in 1608 as an inn. The Glenbeigh Hotel dates back to 1792 when it opened its doors as a Stage Coach Inn [27]? I consider you very reliable btw...but who says it was the first? The source says when they closed, the Royal Hibernian Hotel claimed to be the first hotel in Ireland. If anyone else would like to help, please do. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
There's a transcript of a paper on public dining in Ireland (which the main source used in the article is an extract from) that says "The origin of the Royal Hibernian Hotel, Dawson Street, goes back to 1751, which makes it the oldest known hotel in Ireland (Corr, 1987, p. 5)." I've got no idea what source is "Corr, 1987" but it does mean the claim to be oldest known hotel is a little more verifiable (as opposed to actually true). I think I'm going to need Smirkybec's collection of Irish book sources at this point to progress further. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:52, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Found the paper you mentioned "The origin of the Royal Hibernian Hotel, Dawson Street, goes back to 1751, which makes it the oldest known hotel in Ireland" [28]. You could add to the article as a source. What is "known hotel"? Does that mean the Woodenbridge Hotel was the first unknown hotel? Let me know what you find. This reminds me of the articles I did on first transplants...or first successful transplant... or first transplant in a human etc. Sorry for nit-picking. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:16, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

The Yankee

  • ... that John Neal vindicated himself with The Yankee? Source: this book says on page 112 "As editor ... [Neal's] true reward was in earning back his place of acceptance in his hometown. Early issues, therefore, contain a good deal of self-vindication".
    • ALT1:... that "the very first words of encouragement [Poe] ever remember[ed] to have heard" were in The Yankee? Source: this book says on page 114 "[Edgar Allan Poe] seized on Neal's words regarding the possibilities of his writing a beautiful and perhaps magnificent poem, calling them 'the very first words of encouragement I ever remember to have heard'".

Created by Dugan Murphy (talk). Self-nominated at 04:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Wynne Neilly

  • ... that photographing Elliot Page for the cover of Time "really meant the world" to Canadian photographer Wynne Neilly? Source: a Ryerson University interview, where Neilly said that "I have so much gratitude for his choice to request me as his photographer for this historical moment. It really meant the world to me to be able to help him tell his story and that he trusted me to do it right. It felt like a lot of pressure but at the same time I knew I was the right fit and I knew I could deliver."
    • ALT1:... that inspirations for Wynne Neilly's photography of queer and transgender people include Catherine Opie, Cassils, Michelle Groskopf, and Robert Mapplethorpe? Source: This interview, where Neilly said that "Catherine Opie would be my number one photographic inspiration. I am really inspired by artists working closely with their communities and who use their body to tell a story. Some other inspirations of mine right now include: Cassils, Robert Coombs, Michelle Groskopf, Brene Brown, Robert Mapplethrope, Landon Speers, @shooglet, my community and dadaism. I’m also very into architecture right now, especially brutalist style architecture."
  • Reviewed: Obed Dickinson
  • Comment: It'd be lovely if this could run in June for pride month.

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 03:38, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 4[edit]

William E. Woods

  • ... that the only two names mentioned in conservative activist Jerry Falwell's farewell speech after his truncated 1981 trip to Hawaii were Bill Woods and Jesus Christ? Source: Politico, "When conservative televangelist Jerry Falwell traveled to Hawaii in May 1981 [...] Woods led a group that beat him to register the name with state authorities [...] When he held a rally outside the state capitol in Honolulu, Falwell was confronted by a sheriff presenting him with a summons: the Moral Majority of Hawaii was suing his Moral Majority, Inc. for using its name. Concerned they could get ensnared in the litigation, other venues which had agreed to host stops on Falwell’s Hawaii tour cancelled. Before retreating back to Virginia, a disconsolate Falwell gave a farewell speech that mentioned only two names: Jesus Christ and Bill Woods."
    • ALT1:... that after William E. Woods cut short a 1981 trip to Hawaii by Jerry Falwell Sr., the only two people mentioned in Falwell's farewell speech were Woods and Jesus Christ? Source: See ALT0
    • ALT2:... that William E. Woods took three same-sex couples to fill out marriage licenses in 1990, beginning a series of events that would lead to the legalization of same-sex marriage in the United States? Source: Politico, "Bill Woods had plans to make news, not history. He would bring three same-sex couples, two female and one male, to the main office of the Hawaii Department of Public Health in downtown Honolulu, where they would complete applications for marriage licenses. [...] What they had done was set in motion a chain of events that would send a novel legal question from the outskirts of the American imagination to the floor of Congress and the Oval Office in a little more than five years. Within a quarter-century, the U.S. Supreme Court would end the debate for good."
  • Reviewed: Hippobosca longipennis
  • Comment: Ideally this could run before the end of June, since it's Pride Month.

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 21:41, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Ellora Derenoncourt

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Woman4Tech (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 13:22, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 5[edit]

Michael McIntyre (sailor)

  • ... that Michael McIntyre, who was an Olympic sailing champion in 1988, won a Scottish schools swimming competition in his youth? Source: [29] "Before his introduction to sailing, McIntyre had been a keen swimmer and was a Scottish Schools champion at 12.", "Seoul 1988" section to confirm Olympic champion
    • ALT1:... that Michael McIntyre, who was an Olympic sailing champion in 1988, was awarded an MBE for services to yachting the following year? Source: 1988 win: As above, 1989 MBE: [30] (note: although published on 30 Dec 1988, it's for the 1989 New Year Honours

5x expanded by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:48, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

Chris Gittens

Gittens in 2020
Gittens in 2020

Converted from a redirect by Muboshgu (talk) and Stonecold415 (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 19:11, 7 June 2021 (UTC).


Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 17:14, 5 June 2021 (UTC).


  • ... that Raychell's previous stage name Lay was meant to represent her belief that singing while lying down would heal listeners? Source: ROCK AND READ girls (in Japanese). Shinko Music Entertainment. May 25, 2019. p. 104.

Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:03, 5 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 7[edit]


Hebbel-Theater in 2007
Hebbel-Theater in 2007
  • ... that the Hebbel-Theater (pictured), designed by Oskar Kaufmann and opened with a play by Hebbel in 1908, was the only theatre in Berlin that survived World War II without major damage? Source: several

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:29, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Kate Baker

Portrait of Kate Baker, OBE
Portrait of Kate Baker, OBE
  • ... that Kate Baker (pictured), an influential Australian literary figure, once wrote a love letter to the author of the quintessential Australian novel Such Is Life, Joseph Furphy, whilst suffering from typhoid fever? Source: Barnes, John (1991). "Baker of Ours". The Order of Things: A Life of Joseph Furphy. Oxford University Press, p. 191. ISBN 978-0195531879.
  • Comment: I just got this to GA status

Improved to Good Article status by Aussie Article Writer (talk). Self-nominated at 06:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - Could you please pinpoint the exact sources for influential figure in the main hook and quintessential Australian novel for both hooks?
  • Interesting: Green tickY
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ: Red XN - Have you done one?
Overall: Symbol question.svg ALT1 is more interesting. JBchrch talk 18:48, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Mandau Talawang Pancasila

Source: van Klinken, Gerry (2006). Colonizing Borneo: State-Building and Ethnicity in Central Kalimantan. KITLV.

"The Buntok attack had been launched, the attackers now revealed in a letter, by a movement called Telabang Pantjasila Sektor Dajak. Telabang (or telawang) is a shield; Pantjasila was the Indonesian national ideology, a term that clearly conveyed loyalty to Jakarta. The attackers explained that they had been motivated by grievances, such as their dissatisfaction with government corruption and the cancellation of the marsh drainage scheme. The group added (no doubt with an eye to attracting potential sponsors in Jakarta) that it was ready “to die for” Pantjasila. The next day, the group rebaptized itself in even more florid, but slightly less overtly Dayak, terms as Mandau Telabang Pantjasila (mandau refers to a Dayak cutlass). It announced that its leader was Ch. Simbar, alias Mandolin, a Ma’anyan Dayak tribesman. Most importantly, it declared its opposition to the loosely allied anti-Jakarta rebel movements, KRJT, Darul Islam, and the Tentara Islam Indonesia"[1]
"The gang allegedly burned houses, raped women, then ran off with gold and diamonds they had robbed from the locals, as well as materials stolen from government offices. The marauders headed north to Kuala Kurung, along the Kahayan River, apparently intent on a repeat performance. They always left leaflets in their wake—this was a modern movement!—promoting the creation of Central Kalimantan province, asserting Dayak commitment to Sukarno, and declaring opposition to an Islamic Indonesia. "[2]

"The issue of Central Kalimantan was no doubt on the agenda of an important military meeting set to discuss martial law and regional autonomy in mid-April 1957. Security conditions in the region were now ideal, Tjilik Riwut and the new military commander of Kalimantan declared. Indeed, after having done his part, Simbar had been eased out of the picture. He and Embang came out of the jungle and were taken to meet acting Kalimantan governor, Sarkawie, and his entourage in Banjarmasin in March. Simbar told them he had “ten thousand” men committed to him all over Central Kalimantan. The group then travelled together to Buntok and to Bundar to witness four hundred Tentara Lawong members in each place take a symbolic oath of loyalty to the state. The following month, the gang members figured as guests of honor at official celebrations repeated in each of the three regencies that were to join the province. Simbar and Embang’s gangs were rebaptized the Youth Front for the Development of Central Kalimantan; the group was still led by Simbar, who was subsequently counted among the heroes of Central Kalimantan." [3]
  • Comment: First time nomination, QPQ irrelevant

Created by Nyanardsan (talk). Self-nominated at 21:40, 11 June 2021 (UTC).


  1. ^ van Klinken 2006, p. 39.
  2. ^ van Klinken 2006, p. 43.
  3. ^ van Klinken 2006, p. 45.

Modern Paganism and New Age

  • ... that Pagans and New Agers typically view history in different ways? Source: "The New Age movement has essentially recast Joachim de Flores's twelfth-century 'Three Ages of History' theory into astrological terminology ... On the other hand, with its essential distance from both Christian terminology and astrological reinterpretation of the ages of history, contemporary Paganism does not entertain the notions of either literal apocalypticism or metaphorical millenarianism." (The Encyclopedia of Modern Witchcraft and Neo-Paganism, pp. 183–184)

Created by Ffranc (talk). Self-nominated at 08:31, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I quite like that we have this article now, and it technically passes DYK shape, but it seems to have some noticeable gaps, and I'm not sold on either proposed hook. In particular, there's no discussion of how outsiders to both often use "New Age" as a blanket term for a cluster of faiths including both Neopaganism and what the article defines as New Age, including the Pew Research Center's classification of faith in America. (I think that could be grounds for a decent ALT2 when added, although I'm not currently focusing on alternative hooks until the other issues are resolved.) I particularly think you should expand on the New-Age-as-insult description, if the sourcing exists to do so; this is something I see a lot, to the point of treating it as outright charlatanism. Although, to counter that -- I also think this article scans as written rather more from the Neopagan perspective, and that there isn't quite enough weight on the New Age perspective. I also see a fairly homogenous idea of what "New Age", a heterogeneous term if there ever was one, is (particularly noting the "battle between light and darkness" idea, when many LHPers are much closer to New Age than they are to Neopagan!). I think there are neutrality and weight issues as you stand, in addition to the matter of not being sold on the current hooks. Vaticidalprophet 09:56, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I expanded a bit using the entry on "Paganism and the New Age" from Brill's Handbook of New Age, which hopefully gives more of a New Age focus (although it's written by "a scholar of Wicca", Harrington p. 438). But the pagan emphasis is somewhat unavoidable; as the article explains, New Age material is less inclined to address distinctions, so much of the useful material here will be about pagans pointing out differences. As for using New Age as an umbrella term that includes paganism, this is covered in the "Relations" section, and described in the sources as less common in the 21st century. I've expanded on it now and given it its own subheading. But I'm reluctant about using it in a hook, because recent academic sources don't really do it.
The sources mention New-Age-as-insult, but don't really go into detail about it, but I've added it to the lead section now. I added left-hand path as a "see also" link but couldn't find sources that address it within this discourse; it might fit better in an article comparing occultism to either New Age or modern Paganism, if that's notable, or maybe an article on occulture. There are several subjects that are related in similar ways: Theosophy, renaissance magic etc, but if they aren't explicitly compared in the sources there isn't much we can do without WP:SYNTH. Ffranc (talk) 14:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
All good. I've been thinking about this; it's a hard topic to confidently come up with a hook for. I'm still not convinced the 'average reader' looking at Wikipedia's main page knows that these are different concepts (or that outside researchers are even in the 21st century as inclined to treat these differently at the article posits), and I think it'd be important for the hook to highlight that in a way I don't think either current hook does. Some alts?:
ALT2: ...that modern Paganism and New Age religions can be distinguished by their focus on collectivism and individualism respectively?
ALT3: ...that Michael York, contrasting modern Paganism and the New Age, argued the two are "rival theologies" on opposite ends of a "Gnostic-Pagan divide"?
I've asked around a bit about hooks, because I think this might do well with having someone who doesn't know much about the topic look at it to find what stands out as hooky. Vaticidalprophet 00:50, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
I struck ALT2 because the dichotomy isn't as clear as that, neither in the sources nor the article, and the terminology is politically charged. The hook with the York quotes works, although I think it's less hooky than the original two. Ffranc (talk) 08:51, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Vaticidalprophet, do you still think there are neutrality issues with the article or is it just the hooks that need to be improved? Ffranc (talk) 13:21, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Article is solid :) I put a word out on WT:DYK about hooks, though it hasn't gotten any response yet. Vaticidalprophet 13:34, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Here are two more alts, hopefully at least one of them will work:
  • ALT4: ... that a common difference between modern Paganism and New Age is that the former focuses more on the external world and the latter on the inner life of the individual? Source: "Generally speaking, whereas we have seen that much in the New Age is explicitly epistemologically individualistic, focusing on enabling the individual to 'go within' and to discover the 'Higher Self', in Paganism there is a greater emphasis on the other, on that which is external to the self: the planet, the deities and the community." (The Re-Enchantment of the West. Volume 1: Alternative Spiritualities, Sacralization, Popular Culture, and Occulture, p. 79)
  • ALT5: ... that scholars of New Age have treated modern Paganism and New Age as the same phenomenon, but this has been disputed by scholars of modern Paganism? Sources: "Hanegraaff has produced a number of papers on esoteric spirituality, and the book New Age Religion and Western Culture: Esotericism in the Mirror of Secular Thought (1996). ... In the midst of groundbreaking work on esoteric religion, Hanegraaff and Faivre conflate Paganism and Witchcraft into a misleading homogenous whole. ... Paul Heelas' The New Age Movement: The Celebration of the Self and the Sacrilization of Modernity (1996) makes a comparison of Paganism and New Age that is similar to that of Hanegraaff. ... Jo Pearson wrote a paper on 'Assumed Affinities: Wicca and the New Age' (1998a) in a direct response to, and refutation of, Heelas' book. In the paper, she critically examines Heelas' three principles, concluding they do not apply to Wicca." (Handbook of New Age, pp. 437–438, 441) "Heelas included Witches and Wiccans within New Age identity as well as Druids, shamans, and other modernday Pagans. Once again, despite their differences, neither movement conforms to Roy Wallis's understanding of the 'world-rejecting' new religious movement." (The Encyclopedia of Modern Witchcraft and Neo-Paganism, p. 183)
Ffranc (talk) 12:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment A DYK article does not need to pass a GA style review. It needs to be a "start" class and this article is. If the article lacks aspects that you would like then add them or add that comment to the talk page. If it technically passes DYK and it has a hooky hook ... then tick. Its great to improve articles but its unfair to withhold the tick. Victuallers (talk) 16:18, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
No attempt to perform a GAN intended. I had concerns about the article's neutrality/balance, and putting such on the main page is a move to be cautious about. I also didn't spot a hooky hook out of the two proferred. Vaticidalprophet 00:50, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Kake (comics)

Tom of Finland
Tom of Finland
  • ... that Kake has been described as "a sort of Johnny Appleseed ... spreading the seeds of liberated, mutually satisfying, ecstatically explicit gay sex"? Source: The Complete Kake Comics
    • ALT1:... that Tom of Finland (pictured) based the appearance of his leatherman character Kake on a Finnish man he met in Stockholm? Source: Tom of Finland: The Official Life and Work of a Gay Hero
    • ALT2:... that Tom of Finland (pictured) gave his leatherman character Kake a friendly and easygoing personality to contrast typical portrayals of leathermen in heterosexual culture as menacing or dangerous? Source: Tom of Finland: The Official Life and Work of a Gay Hero

Created by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:14, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

Abeer Odeh

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Salukk (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 21:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Neva Milicic Müller

  • ... that Chilean psychologist Neva Milicic Müller wrote a book about parent-child separation that can help children and caregivers during the COVID-19 lockdowns? Source: "La doctora en Sicología por la Universidad de Gales y magíster en Educación, Neva Milicic, acaba de lanzar el libro "Nos separamos, ¿y los niños?, publicado por Editorial Planeta. Una guía para acompañar a los hijos durante y después del proceso de separación, que escribió junto con la también sicóloga infanto-juvenil Oriana Cifuentes. En el contexto de la pandemia, este tema toma un sentido más profundo, especialmente para las comunas en que ya rige una cuarentena total." Pauta

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Rizzle13 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 18:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Hanan Awwad

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Salukk (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 13:08, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 8[edit]

Roxham Road

Refugees crossing the border
Refugees crossing the border
  • Further comment: Hey, maybe we could run this on the Main Page on July 1 (Canada Day)? Actually, forget it, that queue looks pretty full already. Daniel Case (talk) 19:01, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 23:58, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Neha Narkhede

  • ... that Apache Kafka co-creator Neha Narkhede was named #33 on Forbes' 2020 list of self-made women? Source: "she helped develop software platform Apache Kafka" and "ON FORBES LISTS #33 America's Self-Made Women 2020" (Forbes)
    • ALT1:... that Neha Narkhede, co-creator of the open source software Apache Kafka also helped found Confluent, a company valued at $4.5 billion? Source: "she helped develop software platform Apache Kafka to handle the networking site's huge influx of data . . . which became open source in 2011." (Forbes) and "Confluent was valued at $4.5 billion in a private financing round last year." (CNBC)

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Woman4Tech (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 15:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

William Davenport (slave trader)

A slave ship
A slave ship
A slave ship
A slave ship

The ref William Davenport, the Slave Trade, and Merchant Enterprise in Eighteenth-Century Liverpool by Nicholas James Radburn (2009) says on page 13: "Throughout his thirty-eight year career as a ship owner, he invested in 163 slaving ventures, more than any other merchant in the history of the Liverpool slave trade. These vessels carried nearly 40,000 Africans to the Americas, and involved a personal investment from Davenport of £127,000, equivalent to £10 million sterling today. Davenport‘s lengthy involvement in the slave trade, coupled with his substantial personal investment made him one of the largest and most ubiquitous slaving merchants of his day."

5x expanded by Desertarun (talk). Self-nominated at 14:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This is only my second DYK review. The only note I would make is that you may consider also shortening the hook to just say "...that William Davenport (1725-1794) was, by the number of ships disembarked, the single most prolific slave trader from the Port of Liverpool?". That way it doesn't use the title of "most prolific slave trader" twice in a row. Rizzle13 (talk) 18:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi, thanks for the review. I've altered the word appalling and offered some Alt's below. Desertarun (talk) 08:29, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Source snipped from Alt0 says "Davenport's lengthy involvement in the slave trade, coupled with his substantial personal investment made him one of the largest and most ubiquitous slaving merchants of his day"
  • Source snipped from Alt0 says "Davenport‘s lengthy involvement in the slave trade, coupled with his substantial personal investment made him one of the largest and most ubiquitous slaving merchants of his day"
Rizzle13, I'm surprised that you think "appalling" is not neutral, but "slave", as a noun, is. There was already one example of "enslaved people" or "enslaved person" in the article, and I've tried to change as many as I could. We should not essentialize the personhood of a victim of kidnapping and enslavement down to a single word. Anyway, there is another problem: the "Abolition" section really is not connected to the subject of the article--and so, the image (which was never simply the image of an enslaved person) isn't connected to the subject either. Nor do I see, given what the article says about the subject, an easy connection between the subject and the Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade. Desertarun, maybe there is more in your sources. I do think that the two Alt hooks are great, but I don't think putting that image in there is appropriate. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 00:21, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
@Drmies: Hi, thanks for the review. I've switched the word slave in every instance I could find, I'm going to leave the removed content deleted, and I've added new pictures here of a slave ship. Desertarun (talk) 07:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment: strongly recommend that the dates in the hook be removed. I am striking ALT1, since it's a copyvio, and adding quotes for basically an entire hook won't fly. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:10, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
I've removed the dates from Alt2. Desertarun (talk) 08:01, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Hugh Leatherman

5x expanded by Muttnick (talk). Self-nominated at 19:02, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 9[edit]

Leah (metal musician)

  • ... that the heavy metal musician Leah has sometimes been called "the metal Enya"?

Created by 3family6 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new enough and long enough. Nothing concerning on Earwig's copyvio detector. The hook is interesting and cited in the article; the source (Allmusic) seems adequate for what it's supporting. QPQ is done. However, the article is currently tagged for overreliance on primary sources - this will need to be resolved before the nomination can continue. I have additional concerns about whether some of the sources used are reliable enough for a BLP, e.g. what makes hardrockhaven.net and soniccathedral.com reliable sources? Citing a statement about her political beliefs to an archive of a now defunct blog seems problematic from a BLP standpoint as well. Needs attention to sourcing before it is promoted to DYK. Spicy (talk) 10:23, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks for the edits. I'm still unsure about the use of primary sources - quite a lot of the article seems to be based on Q&A interviews like this [40] which don't have any real secondary analysis, and some sources, like this still seem questionable to me. I do realize it's sort of a niche topic and we can't expect a cover story in the New York Times... if it's alright I'd like to relist this for a second opinion by someone more familiar with sourcing expectations in this area. Thanks, Spicy (talk) 04:43, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
  • The Metal Divas source I'm only using for Leah's statements about herself, per WP:BLPSELFPUB and WP:ABOUTSELF. Same with other interviews. These aren't being used to establish notability, but to provide additional verifiable information about her in addition to the third-party content that establishes notability.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 12:45, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Tyra Lundgren

Tyra Lundgren
Tyra Lundgren
  • ... that Swedish painter, ceramist, designer, and writer Tyra Lundgren (pictured) was one of the most versatile artists of the 20th century? Source: [41]

Created by Ashleyyoursmile (talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

  • ALT1 ... that Swedish painter, ceramist, designer, and writer Tyra Lundgren (pictured) was one of the pioneers of the Swedish Grace style? source: same

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - ?
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg maybe consider an other (more specific) hook? Swedish Grace I didn't know what it is, a versatile artist I know what it is and well there is still some time to think of an other hook Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Paradise Chronicle, I have a ridiculously long watch-list and noticed only today that you've already reviewed the hook. My apologies for the delay. I agree that the first hook is pretty straightforward and I'm completely fine with ALT1. Ashleyyoursmile! 10:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Rolls-Royce Boat Tail

Created by Jupitus Smart (talk). Self-nominated at 16:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg The article really needs a picture. Perhaps we can find a picture of a boat tail model from the 1920-30s such as this Andrew🐉(talk) 14:04, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that the Rolls-Royce Boat Tail, which is the world's most expensive street-legal new car, will have only three cars built?

@Andrew Davidson:Modified the hook. Pretty sure the Lunar rover was not street legal. I have also removed the celebrity owner parts (they were added by some IPs). The backward copy template has been added. I have added all the information I could salvage into the article though because it is an ultra luxury car - the engineering parts also ended up sounding luxurious. I am not able to find a relevant image, not even one of the old boat tails (which are copyright free). I will try to add some more information to make it more neutral by the time you revisit the article. Best. Jupitus Smart 16:29, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I browsed for sources myself to look for one that wasn't just churnalism – recycling a press release or other people's reports. I found a first-hand report which seems to ring true. One point made by this is that these vehicles are custom coach-built and so there's not a standard list price. The price will be individual to each client and RR aren't saying what it is, just as they aren't saying who the clients are. So, it seems difficult to make firm claims based on an unknown variable.
  • As for the street-legal idea, this would need confirmation. Sometimes, high-end cars are not street-legal and so can only be driven on race-tracks or private roads. And even some more mundane cars may not be legal in certain jurisdictions – see Illegal Vehicles Banned in America, for example.
Andrew🐉(talk) 17:42, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

ALT2: ... that the first Rolls-Royce Boat Tail comes with a Christofle crockery set? Source: https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/cars/rollsroyce-boat-tail-the-most-expensive-car-in-the-world-breaks-cover-41622170659257.html

@Andrew Davidson: How about a new hook like the one above?. Jupitus Smart 18:02, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
Listing the various items of bling might make a good hook but we should avoid suggesting that these are standard production items as they are tailored to each client and there's only one example so far. I suggest "the first Rolls-Royce Boat Tail..."
As for the issue of price and client confidentiality, you might emphasise this by saying that the rich client and exact price are not being divulged by RR so people are making guesses and estimates. This might give the hook an element of excitement and mystery...
Andrew🐉(talk) 18:17, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
@Andre Davidson: Necessary change incorporated. Please check Jupitus Smart 18:33, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
I've got to work on my own DYK now so I'll get back to this tomorrow. Please ping me if I should forget... Andrew🐉(talk) 18:39, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
@Andrew Davidson:, just a reminder as requested. Jupitus Smart 16:55, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 10[edit]

Marie Antoinette and Her Children

Created by JeBonSer (talk). Self-nominated at 00:21, 10 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is new enough, long enough, well-referenced, neutrally written with no significant copyvios. The hook is cited-inline in the article and is interesting. The hook has a picture which is freely licensed, used in the article, and easily discernible at 100px. A QPQ has been done by the nominator. Good to go! Ashleyyoursmile! 10:34, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Planet Her

TOI 1338 b
TOI 1338 b

Draft created by Cybertrip (talk) and moved to mainspace by VersaceSpace (talk). Nominated by Cybertrip at 10:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

Sawsan Al Majali

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Salukk (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 21:47, 10 June 2021 (UTC).

Duda Salabert

Duda Salabert at a 2018 event
Duda Salabert at a 2018 event
  • Reviewed: Cris Miró
  • Comment: It'd be fantastic if this could run in June for Pride Month.

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 21:10, 10 June 2021 (UTC).

Need to Know (Doja Cat song)

Created by VersaceSpace (talk). Self-nominated at 14:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 11[edit]

Janis Sanchez-Hucles

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Rizzle13 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 20:42, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

Lutjanus fulvus

Blacktail snapper
Blacktail snapper

5x expanded by Quetzal1964 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 23:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

Florissantia (planthopper)

1890 illustration of Florissantia elegans
1890 illustration of Florissantia elegans

Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 20:59, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

46 West 55th Street

Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 18:21, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

James Chappell (servant)

  • ... that James Chappell was awarded a £20-a-year pension by his employer, Sir Christopher Hatton, for saving his life during a gunpowder explosion at Castle Cornet? "In 1672 the castle keep and some of the living headquarters were destroyed after lightning hit the building, causing the gunpowder stores to explode. Hatton's wife and mother were tragically killed. But his servant pulled Sir Christopher from the rubble and saved his life" from: Cronin, Kate (9 June 2021). "The hero African servant who saved the life of Sir Christopher Hatton honoured at new Kirby Hall exhibition". Northamptonshire Telegraph. Retrieved 11 June 2021. and "On Sir Christopher’s death in 1706, he provided for James in his will, stating 'And to my servant James Chappell I give one Annuity of twenty pounds a year during the term of his life.' With this gift, James was able to live as a free man with his wife, and set up home in the local area, becoming landlord of a local pub." from: "Learn: Black Lives in Britain". English Heritage. Retrieved 11 June 2021.
    • ALT1:... that James Chappell is thought to be the first black landlord of an English public house? "Chappell married into a publican's family and it is believed that he was England's first black landlord." from: Quarmby, Katharine (20 April 2005). "Uncovering black history". The Guardian. Retrieved 11 June 2021.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 13:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

Libertarian Party of New Hampshire

  • Reviewed: TBA

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:29, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

John Harris (Australian Settler)

  • First major landowner of New South Wales
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Emilytang123 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:45, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Hi @Emilytang123, Thanks for nominating to DYK. As it is your first DYK nomination, these are few guidelines that may be helpful for you. Firstly, the hook is not properly formatted. (See WP:DYKHOOK for formatting guidelines) If you want to nominate the hook "First major landowner of New South Wales", you need to type it as "... that John Harris was the first major landowner of New South Wales?" and link the source. QPQ not required. The article is long enough (14924 characters), but is not new enough. It has not been created/expanded 5x/promoted to Good Article within the past 7 days. The 5x expansion began almost 27 days ago. In that case, the article doesn't meet the eligibility criteria. Still, your contributions to the article are very much appreciated!! Thanks! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Penn State Nittany Lions women's soccer

5x expanded by NoahRiffe (talk). Self-nominated at 16:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC).


  • ... that ...? The members of the black metal band Zuriaake do not wear corpsepaint on-stage because the Chinese think about it rather amusing than terrifying?Source: "Nor did corpse paint, given that the Chinese imagine zombies as stiff, hopping cadavers more humorous than terrifying." ([44])
    • ALT1:... that ...? Zuriaake is the first Chinese metal band to play a concert in Northern Europe which was their debut European show as well?Source: "n May 2017, Zuriaake were invited by Finland’s Steelfest Open Air, the largest black metal music festival in northern Europe where the band played its European debut show." ([45])
    • ALT2:... that ...? The band's name Zuriaake is a metaphor for the Chinese poet Qu Yuan? Source: "Was den Bandnamen angeht, Zuriaake besteht aus "Zu, Buried, Lake". Eine Metapher für einen berühmten Dichter Qu Yuan, der zur Zeit der streitenden Reiche in China lebte (403 – 221 B.C.) und sich selbst ertrank, voller Hass auf die schlechte Regierung und aus Mitleid zu dem arbeitenden Volk am Fusse der sozialen Leiter." (in German, [46])
    • ALT3:... that? ... The members of the band excluding their drummer wear traditional clothing on-stage like Hanfu and Dǒulì? Source: "Each dressed head to toe in black embroidered Hanfu, and black, netted Dou Li bamboo hats (except the drummer, who would have found it impossible to wear and maintain his vicious assault on the drums), they arrive on stage like a temple parade, carrying rough-framed cloth lanterns, and forgoing the smoke machine for a swinging thurible." ([47])

Created by Goroth (talk). Self-nominated at 18:13, 23 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 12[edit]

Lohn Estate

Improved to Good Article status by JBchrch (talk). Self-nominated at 18:59, 21 June 2021 (UTC).

Stop Line 3 protests

Protesters handcuffed together
Protesters handcuffed together
  • Reviewed: forthcoming...

Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self-nominated at 01:45, 19 June 2021 (UTC).

1993 Burlington mayoral election

  • Reviewed: TBA

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 13[edit]

O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort

Johann Rist
Johann Rist

Converted from a redirect by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

Performance (textiles)

  • ... that Performance is the ability of textiles to withstand various conditions, environments, and hazards? Source: Kadolph, Sara J. (1998). Textiles. Upper Saddle River, New Jersey: Bobbs-Merrill Company. pp. 9, 11, 22, 23, 25, 392, 408, 407. ISBN 978-0-13-494592-7 – via Internet Archive.
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by RAJIVVASUDEV (talk), Dicklyon (talk), and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen () 13:10, 20 June 2021 (UTC) Performance (textiles)

  • Could somebody please explain what this is about. Thanks. -Roxy . wooF 15:51, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Sure. See WP:DYK. 7&6=thirteen () 15:58, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
Why would anybody nominate this bucket of gomutra for people to actually see how awful it is? Why am I listed as a creator, I didn't create this rubbish. Why can I not comment in this subject on the talk page of the article, where it appears? please unnominate this article collection of disparate factoids for DYK. Thanks. -Roxy . wooF 10:05, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Your true colors are showing. You wanted the article deleted, and others disagree. I removed your name, per your reqeust. 7&6=thirteen () 10:24, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
You didn't answer any of my questions. Why didn't you answer any of my questions? -Roxy . wooF 10:35, 21 June 2021 (UTC)


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg There's some concern about the article title which might need thrashing out to ensure stability. "Textile performance" would be my suggestion. Andrew🐉(talk) 11:49, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Comment I have no objection to renaming the article. Should that be brought up at the article's talk page? 7&6=thirteen () 15:30, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Close paraphrasing and copyvio has been a historical problem with the original creator of this article. A proposal to rename the article has already been made on the article Talk page. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 21:01, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Sour grapes. Your proposals are unrelated with the sources. We can go with Andrew's suggestion. RV (talk) 02:32, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Mariano Fiallos Oyanguren

Mariano Fiallos Oyanguren in 2005
Mariano Fiallos Oyanguren in 2005

5x expanded by Innisfree987 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:54, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

Hannah Osborne

  • ... that New Zealand rower Hannah Osborne unexpectedly displaced the current double-world champion in double scull, Olivia Loe, for the 2021 Olympic Games? Source: "Olivia Loe has been dropped from the double scull boat, where she won two world titles, as the national selectors eye their best chance of claiming a medal at Tokyo. ... But Loe's speed is no longer seen as quick enough and she was moved to the quad in favour of Hannah Osborne." Stuff
  • Reviewed: Postage stamps and postal history of the Pitcairn Islands
  • Comment: Would be cool if we could run this on the day rowing starts. Rowing's first day of competition is on Friday, 23 July. There will be heats in six boat classes and W2x is up fourth. The heats will be between 8:30 h and 12:10 h Japan Standard Time (JST; UTC+09:00). Very conveniently, I see that Tokyo is in the local update times table. Note that I've also nominated Emma Twigg in single scull with the same request.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:31, 19 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Update – I think I can organise a photo for this nomination, so don't sign this off and promote it too quickly, please. Schwede66 09:56, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Peter Baker (slave trader)

Enslaved people on a Caribbean plantation
Enslaved people on a Caribbean plantation
  • ...Alt0... that Baker & Dawson was the biggest firm of slave traders in the late 18th-century (pictured, enslaved people on a Caribbean plantation)?
  • Source The Captains in the British Slave Trade 1785-1807, author S. D. Behrendt, page 104 says: "Baker & Dawson used large slave ships" and "Baker and Dawson's Princess Royal" and "The Liverpool firm of Peter Baker and John Dawson was the largest firm in the slave trade from 1783 to 1792"

5 x expanded by Desertarun (talk). Self-nominated at 12:25, 13 June 2021 (UTC).

  • ... Alt1

Articles created/expanded on June 14[edit]

Oman at the 2016 Summer Olympics

Improved to Good Article status by MrLinkinPark333 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:50, 19 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Not a review but I note that all hooks say something about Al-Harthi, who is linked from the hooks, that it does not say in his bio. Although that’s not the target article, I don’t think that’s good enough. Should be easy to add those facts to the bio. Schwede66 20:36, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Amee-Leigh Murphy Crowe

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:10, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Black veganism

Created by Valereee (talk). Self-nominated at 23:12, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

  • ALT1: ... that Blacks are the fastest-growing demographic of vegans in the United States, with twice as many identifying as vegan as compared to the general population? Same source, "The fastest-growing vegan demographic is African Americans."
  • Comment: Apologies if this is nit-picky, but my understanding is that "African Americans" doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as "Black people in the United States". It might be good to ensure that the wording reflects the sources in that sense, both in the hooks and the article. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 20:01, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
ezlev, not at all. The sources in this article seem to use them interchangeably. Blacks is a bigger group than African-Americans, and since Black includes (for example) many people from Jamaica (which AA doesn't always), I think Black is probably correct here? Open to other arguments. —valereee (talk) 20:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
I think you're right that Black is probably the correct/ideal term to use here, I just worry that it might not align with the meaning of the sources – for example, the Pew Research Center survey referenced in the source for ALT0 may really have been discussing African Americans in the sense of "Black American citizens" or something else that's semantically different from "Black people in the United States". That's why I'm not sure of the best course of action here. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 20:29, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Ezlev, sorry, how is Black Americans different from Black people in the US? —valereee (talk) 22:10, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
It's different because one can be in the US without being American. Again, nitpicky, and unfortunately the ambiguity lies in the sources themselves, which is why I suggested that it might be good to just use the same terminology they do although it's probably fine either way. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 22:28, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
So you're concerned the researchers were talking to a significant number of Blacks who were at the time in the US but weren't actually American citizens? —valereee (talk) 22:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
I wouldn't go so far as "concerned"... I was scrolling through the noms, saw what looked like a possible source–content inconsistency, figured I would point it out. Now that I've done that, I don't feel a need to keep discussing it unless you'd like to. You're probably right that the discrepancy wouldn't be significant. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 23:05, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Lillian Comas-Díaz

  • ... that APA Gold Medal Award winner Lillian Comas-Díaz became interested in psychology after consoling classmates after a destructive hurricane? Source: "Born in Chicago, Lillian and her nuclear family moved to Yabucoa, a small town on the southeast coast of Puerto Rico. They arrived after a hurricane devastated the town. Unbeknown to Lillian, her healing career began after she consoled school classmates who were traumatized by the natural disaster. Based on this experience, she learned early in life that she wanted to be a psychologist." Gold Medal Award for Life Achievement in the Practice of Psychology: Lillian Comas-Díaz
  • Reviewed: Henriette Spitzeder
  • Comment: Written by Rizzle13. Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel. Full paper of the hook reference is likely behind a paywall. I have access to it & copied the quotation from it.

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Rizzle13 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 18:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

María Elena Medina-Mora Icaza

  • ... that when María Elena Medina-Mora Icaza was appointed to lead the psychology department at UNAM, she proposed a "zero tolerance" policy for gender violence? Source: "Upon taking possession of the leadership of the Faculty of Psychology of the UNAM, María Elena Medina-Mora Icaza, proposed to establish a pact of "zero tolerance" to gender violence" (translated from Spanish; La Jornada

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Chef Vortex (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 17:35, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting career, on fine sources, Spanish sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The hook is fine. In the article, please make a few changes:
  • don't call her by given name alone
  • don't leave bare urls
There may be more, but that's for a start. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I think I've fixed those issues. See any more? QuakerSquirrel (talk) 17:07, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Good! Find a link for her, please. No time right now, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Saw something else:
  • Once an abbreviation is established, stick to it.
  • I think that institutions with an article don't need translation.
  • In English, it's COVID, not COVD.
  • In the hook, perhaps no pipe for the university, to place it in Mexico even for us less familiar with UMAM. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I think I addressed the issues that you pointed out. Can you take a look & see what you think? Thanks for the review.
  • It's definitely possible that I don't understand the orphan tag, but there is an article that links to her. She is listed as a member of El Colegio Nacional and is blue linked from there.
  • I think I caught the places were UNAM wasn't used.
  • I dropped translations for wiki-linked institutions.
  • Changed COVD-19 to COVID-19.
  • I'm fine with your suggested change. Not sure whether/how to change the hook properly or whether to leave it up to the promoter to do. -QuakerSquirrel (talk) 18:33, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you.
ALT0a: ... that when María Elena Medina-Mora Icaza was appointed to lead the psychology department at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, she proposed a "zero tolerance" policy for gender violence?
Getting closer, thank you. I formatted the first reference, - please do the others similarly. No all-caps even if the source has it. I suggest you write more lead, - a summary instead of leaving her in 2006 ;) - not needed for approval, just a service to a reader with little time. - I never add "Selected" to lists, but up to you. See you later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

1989 Football League Third Division play-off Final

  • ... that Robbie Earle was appointed an MBE ten years after scoring an "MBE" in a play-off final? (Source "Vale got the breakthrough seven minutes into the second half - through the tried and trusted “MBE” method. Mills took a corner, Beckford flicked it on and Earle came roaring in to head the ball into the net. It was his 19th goal of the season and certainly the most important - but also the fourth headed goal he had scored against Rovers in four games that season" & Source "Wimbledon captain Robbie Earle was also awarded an MBE.")
  • ... that Bristol Rovers were reported to have reached a 1989 play-off final "against every apparent law of logic"?[1]
  • ... Simon Mills had to postpone his honeymoon to play in the 1989 Third Division play-off final?[2]

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 17:03, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Substantial article, meeting of GA criteria implicates DYK pass. Article was nominated within 7 days of passing GA. QPQ has been completed. No pings on Earwigs for copyvio or close paraphrasing. The hook feels a bit esoteric; the pun requires too much existing knowledge of the source material to make sense at first read. I think an alt hook or hooks are needed here. Morgan695 (talk) 04:50, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
I have added a couple more hooks for your consideration. thanks.EchetusXe 15:58, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Bian er chai

  • ... that in the homoerotic short story collection Bian er chai, one can find the words of "Haha What Can You Do About Fate"?

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 16:23, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Symphyotrichum lateriflorum

Calico aster flower heads
Calico aster flower heads

Created/expanded by Eewilson (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Adding second Alt:

Eewilson (talk) 03:43, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Jameela Al Salman

  • ... that infectious diseases specialist Jameela Al Salman has supported the development of medical robots and called their use a "pioneering experiment" in Bahrain? Source: "Dr Jameela Al Salman, an infectious and internal diseases consultant at the Salmaniya Medical Complex told Gulf Daily News that the use of robots was a “pioneering experiment in Bahrain” and the rest of the GCC." (Health Care IT News)
    • ALT1:... that Bahranian infectious disease specialist Jameela Al Salman encouraged Bahranians to refrain from spreading rumors during the COVID-19 pandemic? Source: "Meanwhile, Dr Al Salman urged people not to spread rumours as the country is battling a surge in Covid-19 cases." (Zawya)

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Salukk (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 13:35, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 15[edit]

Urine deflector

Urine deflector at the Bank of England
Urine deflector at the Bank of England

Created by Andrew Davidson (talk) and Johnbod (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 13:08, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Not a review, but at a glance FNSs 8, 9, 10, 11 all seem to be blogs with no indication they are reliable, the atlas obscura article seems to be entirely user-generated (rather than their editorial content), and the german hydrophobic paint would seem to have no connection to the stated scope of the article. In fact, it almost feels like there are a few entirely different concepts that have been separately called "urine deflectors" which have been combined into one article here-- I don't see the connection between the US military, babies, and the bank of England. Aside from using the same name, they seem to be different things... Is this independently notable outside of the broader concept of public urination? Eddie891 Talk Work 14:08, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
  • The recent AfD demonstrated a consensus that the concept is ok and that we should have a more general article about it; and so here it is. Andrew🐉(talk) 22:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Esra Yıldız

  • ... that Esra Yıldız, who received a quota for the 2020 Summer Olympics, became champion and was named the "Most Hyped Boxer" in her first participation at the Turkish Championships? Source: "2012 yılında Kayseri?de Türkiye Boks Şampiyonasına katıldı. 57 kiloda Türkiye 1. si oldu. Bu turnuvada ?en dövüşken sporcu? kupasını kazandı." (in Turkish) [51], "Fransa'nın başkenti Paris'te düzenlenen Tokyo Olimpiyat Oyunları Avrupa Kota Müsabakaları'nın çeyrek finalinde milli sporcu Esra Yıldız 60 kiloda Macar Kata Pribojszki'yi yenerek Türkiye'nin ikinci olimpiyat kotasını alan isim oldu." (in Turkish) [52]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 12:27, 21 June 2021 (UTC).

Sanin Husain

  • ... that the head of military leader and "holy man" Sanin Husain was used to decorate a market? (Source for Sanin Husain as military leader and "holy man": Hill, Richard, ed. (2006) [1st pub. 1951]. A Biographical Dictionary of the Sudan (2nd (digital) ed.), p. 47; source for his head being used to decorate a market: Daly, Martin W. (2010) [1st pub. 2007]. Darfur's Sorrow: The Forgotten History of a Humanitarian Disaster (2nd ed.), p. 93.)
  • Reviewed: TBD

Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 17:33, 19 June 2021 (UTC).

James A. Gilmore

James A. Gilmore
James A. Gilmore
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Justin Clarke
  • Comment: So far this is more than a 66x expansion. This was really sad. Please let me know if the hook isn't clear enough. The Federal League was an "outlaw" minor league in 1913, as it did not adhere to the national agreement between all of the "organized" baseball leagues. Then in 1914 Gilmore led the charge against the major leagues that flopped by the end of 1915.

5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 18:54, 18 June 2021 (UTC).

Michita Sakata

  • ... that Michita Sakata, a self-described amateur in defense policy, accepted his appointment as Director of the Defense Agency of Japan because he wanted to focus on topics such as the education of soldiers? Igarashi, Takeshi. "Michita Sakata Oral History Interview". National Security Archive. George Washington University. Retrieved 14 May 2021.
    • ALT1:... that Michita Sakata did not want to be a potential Prime Minister of Japan because he thought the role was too political? Purnendra, Jain (2018). "Changing Security Policies in Postwar Japan: The Political Biography of Japanese Defense Minister Sakata Michita". Japanese Studies. 38 (3): 377–9. doi:10.1080/10371397.2018.1518115. p. 377.
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending

Moved to mainspace by Roniius (talk). Self-nominated at 12:08, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Mount Allison Mounties women's ice hockey

Created by Mark Staffieri (talk). Self-nominated at 17:30, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The article that you’ve nominated is absent from the hook. Looking at that article, it does not meet minimum prose size requirements. So as things stand, this won’t work. If you get on with things swiftly (I.e. expand prose of that article to meet requirements) you could nominate a further hook as ALT1. It seems you need a bit of a hand with the DYK process and I’m happy to give you some guidance. Ask here. Schwede66 18:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC)


  1. ^ Sherwin, Phil (1 June 2019). "Port Vale win 1989 play-off final to kick-off the best decade in club's history". The Sentinel. Archived from the original on 21 June 2020. Retrieved 3 June 2020.
  2. ^ Foot, David (6 May 1989). "Gerry-built and Bristol fashion". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 3 June 2021. Retrieved 3 June 2021 – via Newspapers.com.
  3. ^ "Lucrèce Nussbaum named Mounties women's hockey head coach". mountiepride.ca. 2020-07-30. Retrieved 2021-06-15.

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on June 16[edit]

All Ghillied Up

  • ... that ... "All Ghillied Up" is considered among the best video game levels in first-person shooter games? Source: The Telegraph "widely regarded as one of the greatest video game levels in the series, and of the genre as a whole" Digital Spy "We still class 'All Ghillied Up' as one of the best missions in FPS history" Digital Trends ""All Ghillied Up" level is among the greatest in any first-person shooter"

You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

    • ALT1:... that ... "All Ghillied Up" is considered one of the best video game levels in first-person shooter games? Source: The Telegraph "widely regarded as one of the greatest video game levels in the series, and of the genre as a whole" Digital Spy "We still class 'All Ghillied Up' as one of the best missions in FPS history" Digital Trends ""All Ghillied Up" level is among the greatest in any first-person shooter"

You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

    • ALT2:... that ... "All Ghillied Up" is considered one of the best video game levels in the first-person shooter genre? Source: The Telegraph "widely regarded as one of the greatest video game levels in the series, and of the genre as a whole" Digital Spy "We still class 'All Ghillied Up' as one of the best missions in FPS history" Digital Trends ""All Ghillied Up" level is among the greatest in any first-person shooter"

You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

  • Reviewed: Excempt, fewer than 5 nominations

Improved to Good Article status by Spy-cicle (talk). Self-nominated at 20:45, 23 June 2021 (UTC).

Shimaguchi Komao

Shimaguchi Komao
Shimaguchi Komao
  • ... that before he died in the Battle of Iwo Jima, Japanese composer Shimaguchi Komao left behind an unfinished song bidding farewell to his family? Source: "昭和20年3月17日に硫黄島で玉砕しました。その時35歳、遺骨すら残しませんでしたが、唄は現代に生きています [. . . ] また、出征の朝に書いた「いざ征かん」「さらば妻子よ」の未完五線譜が残されています。" ([53])
    • ALT1:... that Japanese composer Shimaguchi Komao died in the Battle of Iwo Jima? Source: "昭和20年3月17日に硫黄島で玉砕しました。その時35歳、遺骨すら残しませんでしたが、唄は現代に生きています" ([54])

Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

Nele Hertling

Nele Hertling in 2011
Nele Hertling in 2011

Created by LouisAlain (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:10, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

Lindy Cameron

The UK's National Cyber Security Centre
The UK's National Cyber Security Centre
  • Reviewed: Pamela Trotman Reid
  • Comment : I nominated this for DYK when I realised that Jess wrote a 1000 articles at one a day .... and then she did another a day for a year... and this one is one of the ones that followed. Amazing over 1365 new articles about (mostly) women.

Created by Jesswade88 (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 09:53, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

Lisa Barbelin

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC).

Thomas Leyland

Slavers bringing captives on board a slave ship
Slavers bringing captives on board a slave ship
  • ... that Thomas Leyland won the lottery, enslaved 22,365 Africans, became Lord Mayor of Liverpool, argued in favour of slavery and died one of the richest men in England? (pictured, a slave ship)
    • Source1: this ref says “In 1766 he won a lottery prize, which he used to build up his business affairs” and “delivered 22,365 Africans” and “one of the wealthiest”. Source 2, Gomer Williams on page 617 writes: “during the mayoralty of Thomas Leyland, the Liverpool Corporation petitioned the House of Commons against a bill to prohibit the trading of slaves”

    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Desertarun (talk). Self-nominated at 20:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 17[edit]

Charles Reid (Indian Army officer)

Leeds Tiger snarling
Leeds Tiger snarling
  • Reviewed: Chester Wilson Emmons
  • Comment: (1) PamD, who created the page and suggested hooks ALT0 and ALT1, is on wikibreak, and her talk page says that she does not want to be disturbed until she returns. Until then, if questions arise, please ping Storye book. (2) Leeds Tiger is currently Draft:Leeds Tiger, but is expected to be moved to mainspace very soon.

Created by PamD (talk) and Storye book (talk). Nominated by Storye book (talk) at 13:46, 23 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Sir Charles Reid
    I have changed my mind about the image. The Leeds Tiger article is about to be published and nominated for DYK, and admin will not want two tiger pictures. The tiger snarl is great clickbait, but the tiger article should have that. So here is a picture of Charles Reid instead. Storye book (talk) 14:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Note: in British English, "shot" on its own is almost always understood to mean shot and killed. I'm guessing that in US English it should say "shot and killed". Please feel free to correct the hooks so that everyone will understand. Reid is the real killer on this template. Storye book (talk) 14:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Ahmet Cevat Emre

  • ... that Ahmet Cevat Emre is mentioned as one of the first ones who used the term Kemalism with its ideological connotations? Source: [57] "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that Ahmet Cevat Emre lodged together with Vâlâ Nureddin and Nazim Hikmet in a social family in Batumi, Emre responsible for cooking, Nazim Hikmet writing poetry and Nureddin teaching Turkish language? Source:[58] p.36 "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT2:... that Ahmet Cevat Emre shared a household with Vâlâ Nureddin and Nazim Hikmet in Batumi, Emre responsible for cooking, Hikmet writing poetry and Nureddin giving Turkish language lessons? same as above

Created by Paradise Chronicle (talk). Self-nominated at 21:47, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Good to see this article at DYK! I think ALT1 has potential. The problem with ALT0 is that most enwiki readers have never heard of Kemalism so they have no idea what the ideological connotations are. For ALT1, I'm struggling to understand what a "social family" is. Perhaps you could rephrase on the lines of "shared a household with..." (t · c) buidhe 07:22, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Cordula Wöhler

Cordula Wöhler in 1885
Cordula Wöhler in 1885
  • ... that when Cordula Wöhler (pictured) was expelled from a Lutheran pastor's household for converting to Catholicism, she wrote a poem that became one of the most popular Marian hymns in German? Source: [59]

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 15:13, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

Mahmud Jamal

  • Comment: In Canada, Supreme Court justices do not need to be confirmed in order to sit on the Supreme Court (as they do in the United States), so his assumption of his Supreme Court seat is merely a formality. Also, "visible minority" is the technically correct term in Canada (see the wikilink); "person of colour", while used in the source articles, is a relatively rare term in Canada, being used mostly in the United States.

Created by Patar knight (talk). Nominated by NorthernFalcon (talk) at 18:58, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article satisfies date and length criteria. There may be referencing quirks in the article, particularly with the following:
  • "On June 24, 2019, Jamal was appointed to the Court of Appeal for Ontario on the advice of Justin Trudeau to replace Justice Gladys Pardu, who became a supernumerary judge." - the ref supports the claim about "appointed to the Court of Appeal for Ontario", but not the remainder of the text in that sentence
  • "He has served stints as a director of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association, the Advocates' Society, and the Osgoode Society for Canadian Legal History." is not supported by the associated citation; this should be cited to ref 6 (Ottawa appoints one judge in Ontario, promotes another) instead
  • Per the Wikipedia:Did you know/Supplementary guidelines#Other supplementary rules for the article point D2, the paragraph "While Jamal's appointment is, constitutionally..." should have a citation. Hook is short enough and cited in text. This is nominator's NorthernFalcon first submission to DYK, so QPQ not required (article creator Patar knight has 6 DYKs). I prefer the original hook with the Canadian term. Once the two ref quirks are rectified, this article can be promoted. Mindmatrix 14:22, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks to NortherFalcon for the nomination, I've been pretty busy recently and wasn't planning on nominating this. I think I've resolved these issues mentioned above. The stuff about specifics about how SCC nominations work is covered elsewhere, isn't really appropriate for Jamal's article, and will be totally forgotten when he officially joins. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 23:56, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Richard Stolley

  • Reviewed: Garland grenade
  • Comment: Eligible per Rule 1d, because it is only scheduled to appear in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN and not as a bold link.

5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:40, 19 June 2021 (UTC).

The Love Songs of W.E.B. Du Bois

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 22:02, 17 June 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting book to come, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. Should this appear 27 July, and then perhaps mention it in the hook? Also: do only the love songs provide the insight described? That's how I'd read the hook. - Minor questions for the article:
I am so trained to J. S. Bach - or that Wikipedia style trumps published titles - that W.E.B. strikes me as bold.
In the list of characters, it seems simpler to first name the parents, then the daughter. At that point we know already that she is the protagonist.
  • As skin-colour matters, shouldn't it be applied evenly to the characters? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:51, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
@Drmies: The hook is over 200 characters. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:07, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
User:Narutolovehinata5, tweak made. Gerda Arendt, I did the characters (roughly) by order of importance. It's not a family tree. I'm not sure what you mean with skin color, unless it's that I capitalize Black and do white in lower case, along with the NYT, the AP, and others. Does that help? Yes, 27 July, that gives us plenty of time, no? Thanks! Drmies (talk) 19:48, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, thank you for the trimming, Drmies. (I sometimes think that the length of the article name should be taken into account, - this is extra-long, leaving little room to say something.) The question is open if only the love songs illustrate the lives, not the whole book. Same question in the lead, where it says the love songs "provide insight into and detail ...". - Not the whole book? Also open if you intend to move to W. E. B., or risk that it will come up at ERRORS on the day appearing? In the Characters, we have 6 people, light-skinned and "White Man" mentioned for some, and nothing for some others. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:42, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Islands: Non-Places

Created by Premeditated Chaos (talk). Self-nominated at 19:24, 17 June 2021 (UTC).

Pamela Trotman Reid

  • Reviewed: Edith Kanakaʻole
  • Comment: Written by Rizzle13. Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel. I know that there is some disagreement on whether "first to" hooks are of general interest. In this case, it's impressive/interesting that two members of a couple both served as presidents of higher ed institutions and that they were both the first Black person in that position, so I hope we can use that hook or something similar.

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Rizzle13 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 17:11, 17 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg its long enough and the article and hooks are well referenced. No sign of close paraphrasing, but I did add the hook explicitly to the article. There is no image as none of her university's allow the images of their staff to be shown on Wikipedia (sound of bullet entering foot). Nice work and collaboration QuakerSquirrel and Rizzle13. Good to go. Victuallers (talk) 10:35, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Hugo Marchand

  • ... that Hugo Marchand was named an étoile of Paris Opera Ballet at age 23, after he made an unexpected role debut when the company was touring in Japan? Source: "The preternaturally elegant Hugo Marchand has done just that at the Paris Opéra Ballet. In Pierre Lacotte's La Sylphide, the ballet that earned him a promotion to étoile at just 23... After another unplanned debut, as James in La Sylphide, Marchand was appointed étoile on a tour of Japan in March 2017." ([61])

Created by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 14:27, 17 June 2021 (UTC).

Rudy Clay (politician)

  • Reviewed: TBA

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:39, 17 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article has more than 1,500 characters in prose. Sources have been cited properly and I found no copyright violations. Hook is interesting and good to go. User has yet to complete a QPQ and the article is below the 5x expansion requirement (started at 8,599 characters and currently standing at 35,261). If these issues can be fixed, then I see no problem with being put up for DYK. lullabying (talk) 21:19, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I also tried counting the characters in prose, starting with 2,749 characters and ending with 7,272 characters. lullabying (talk) 21:32, 20 June 2021 (UTC)
  • You know what @Lullabying: never mind about this article. I thought it was long enough when I nominated it, but I didn't count it so it is my fault. I don't have enough time to finish the article so I am just going to pull this DYK. Jon698 (talk) 17:22, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
  • All right, then. Symbol delete vote.svg Nomination has been withdrawn. lullabying (talk) 19:03, 23 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 18[edit]

2021 French Grand Prix

Le Castellet from space.
Le Castellet from space.

5x expanded by HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk), Island92 (talk), AirshipJungleman29 (talk), SSSB (talk), and GAMOpedia (talk). Nominated by HumanBodyPiloter5 (talk) at 23:36, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

Gheorghe Chițu

Gheorghe Chițu
Gheorghe Chițu
  • ... that, while inebriated, Romanian government minister Gheorghe Chițu (pictured) allegedly "called upon a dentist to pull out the roots of all his molars and his front teeth", resulting in permanent neurological damage? Quote and context in Alexandru Candiano-Popescu, Amintiri din viața-mi, 1998 edition, pp. 164–165

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 21:55, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

Lia Origoni

  • QPQ: María Teresa Sesé
  • Comment: the hook could say that "but she did sing for the guards at Auschwitz, but she is alive and it seems unfair to include this detail. Does anyone have a pic of her from before 1951 with no credited photographer?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:32, 19 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 19[edit]

Tatjana Gamerith

Tatjana Gamerith
Tatjana Gamerith
  • ... that the artist Tatjana Gamerith's (pictured) future husband, then 20, told her that he did not care that she was 20 older than him, and that they had been married for over 60 years? Source: Kunst, Natur und Schönheit

Created by Ashleyyoursmile (talk). Self-nominated at 08:52, 19 June 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting rich long life, on good sources, and I can read the German ones, no copyvio. - Sigh, I don't like the hook, don't like it being only focused on her being twice as old as her husband when they met, without any achievements, also I find the sequence of possessive, pictured, clause ... needlessly confusing, and further the tense of the last bit is wrong because it suggests the 60 years of happy marriage had already happened when he said that. In an article about her, she should be quoted ;) - Summary: if you want to stick to that fact alone, say that although she was twice as old as her future husband, they went on to be married for 60 years. But I'd prefer something different, such as their prize together. The pic is licensed and a good illustration, but is there a year to add to the caption? - In the article: it reads as if the prize was for her achievements, not their. I like your extra service of trying to translate the German refs, but the double meaning of "einfach zu leben" is missing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:22, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 20[edit]

Brigitte Manceaux

  • ... that Brigitte Manceaux said on her deathbed that the "only consolation" which her untimely death brought her was knowing that she would meet her uncle Francis Poulenc again? Source: "Ma seule consolation, c'est de savoir que je vais retrouver Francis, mais quand même il est dur de mourir si jeune!" (Francis Poulenc: Lettres inédites à Brigitte Manceaux, p. 20)
    • ALT1:... that Brigitte Manceaux was Francis Poulenc's niece and closest friend? Source: "Poulenc with his niece, also his closest friend, Brigitte Manceaux" (Poulenc: The Life in the Songs, p. 253)

Created by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 21 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Interesting dedicated life, on few but good sources, offline and French source accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Sorry, I don't like the hooks. We can't expect our "general readership" to even know who Poulenc was, sadly. Please reword ALT1 a bit, and mention her work also, not just relation and friendship. - I have a few suggestions for the article (not needed for approval): drop his former "secretary" from the lead, but in the body say a bit more about her function, not only that she died." The "a second Raymonde" would make more sense. In the lead, rather say more about the article subject. How do you feel about an infobox? "Manceaux's assistance proved especially invaluable while Poulenc was composing, then later attending rehearsals for Dialogues des Carmélites in 1957." - I had to read that twice to understand who proabably attended rehearsals. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:38, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Gerda Arendt! Thanks for looking over this DYK nom. Let me answer your well-considered points:
  • The fact is that the average reader looking at Wikipedia's Main Page will have little to no prior knowledge of the subjects typically discussed in the daily DYK. Quite a few, including a number from the past few days, may be very arcane or of seemingly marginal interest even to a well-cultured reader. Take this DYK from June 19: "[Did you know] that the Honolulu Star-Bulletin described Thelma Akana Harrison as 'volatile', 'brilliant', and 'vivacious'"? No context is given as to who Akana Harrison was, what she did, or what led her to be described as such. Her biography was probably little-known even among Hawaii studies scholars. But what was great about that DYK (I would argue most of them) is that they don't presume that the average reader knows about the subject(s) mentioned. Rather, they pique the reader's curiosity, which invite them to click on the link and find out exactly what the subject(s) are/were and why they matter. Therefore, I don't believe that Manceaux's relative obscurity should keep her from being accepted as DYK.
  • Raymonde Linossier didn't really have a "function," certainly not like any that Manceaux later assumed. Linossier was an emerging artist in her own right and had her own needs to attend to. Her "function" in Poulenc's life, such as it was, was to be his steadfast friend. I think it's important to note in the lede her death as it was precisely this event which allowed Manceaux to pursue her destiny, distinct from Linossier, at her uncle's side. There isn't much more to say beyond that, as Miscevic acknowledges in the introduction to his edition of Poulenc's correspondence to Manceaux: "Cependant, ces lettres nous en disent peu sur leur destinataire, dont ne subsiste qu'une dizaine de réponses. Poulenc ne les a-t-il pas conservées? Ont-elles été détruites? Qui était Brigitte elle-même? Une femme restée dans l'ombre, qu'il n'est pas facile de cerner (However, [Poulenc's] letters tell us little about their recipient, of which only a dozen replies are extant. Did Poulenc not keep them? Were they destroyed? Who was Brigitte herself? A woman who remained in the shadows, not easy to pin down)."
  • The first ALT is admittedly awkwardly written, but I think it poignantly encapsulates the intensity of the relationship between Manceaux and Poulenc and why they each needed the other. Therefore, I would rather have a rewrite of that ALT then scrap it.
  • I would appreciate it if you could fix any grammatical or stylistic issues within the article itself. I must confess, I'm great at proofreading other people's writing, but terrible at doing the same with my own. Even after scanning my own text a hundred times, there will always be some detail or other which I careless with. So an extra pair of eyes, as it were, would be very helpful and appreciated.
  • Infobox is fine. The only reason I typically leave them out is because I had the (mistaken?) impression that usage thereof was frowned upon, at least for articles relating to figures in classical music. Personally, I have no problem with them, one way or the other.
Let me know what you think! —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 20:11, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Regarding the first: of course she should have a DYK, but to say unknown person's niece and friends wouldn't make me click. I'd add at least that Poulenc was a composer.
If you want to keep Linossier in the lead, please write at least a stub of an article.
If you want to try rephrasing the original, go ahead but please don't tell us that her death brought her consolation. "solace" might be a word to consider.
Editors decide whether to have an infobox. Don't try one for Poulenc ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:27, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, I'd be delighted if you could add the infobox to the article. I have no objections to that! :) As for your other points, I believe they are fair. The Linossier article will have to wait a little bit as I have a busy workload this week. More than a stub, I had planned to write a full article about her (with corresponding DYK), but won't have time to do so until this weekend. If you could wait a little bit for that, I'd appreciate it. One minor quibble. Understand that I wasn't trying to tell the reader anything other than what Manceaux herself said (at least according to Marcel Schneider). Also, she didn't say or intend to say that death itself "brought her" any "consolation" in the sense that it "arrived as a friend." Rather, she was attempting to find a silver lining in this most terrible of situations; that if there was any good thing about her dying young, at least she hoped it would allow her to be reunited with her beloved uncle who had preceded her by less than three months. That is why I quoted "only consolation" so as to convey to the reader that the sentiment is not mine, but hers. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:46, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
All fine, especially waiting a bit. The quotation of "only consolation" is also fine, but the hook says that her death brought her that consolation, and I struck it as not working. Take your time. I'm not yet convinced that a hook beginning with a woman's deathbed is the best idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:23, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Sounds good. Now is your objection to Manceaux’s deathbed quote predicated on Wikipedia policy or is this your personal preference? I only ask because earlier this month we had this DYK: “Did you know that Kid Canfield is the first known person to die live on radio?”CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:45, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
I prefer DYK about a subject's life achievements to a deathbed quote, and I am no friend of hooks defining a woman by her relation (whatever kind) to a man (alone). However, I already agreed that your preference may be different. Just please word it correctly, which I feel is tough because we have the translation problem on top of the quotation problem. You can't say "consolation which her death her brought her", implying that death brought her consolation, and I thought I said so. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:52, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
Good morning from Southern California, Gerda Arendt! Thanks again for your reply. I feel we're at an impasse here. As the quote from Miscevic intimated, there is little about Manceaux extant which tells us anything about her, much less about any of her own potentially notable achievements. However valid your points certainly are, what you seem to be looking for in Manceaux does not exist. Whereas Linossier was notable in her own right, Manceaux seems to have willingly, even gladly subsumed her own life into her uncle's, whether we agree with that decision or not, whether we feel we must take Poulenc to task or not for making use of his niece this way. Moreover, a DYK which focuses on her own personal achievements (which ones?) I feel doesn't have the eye-grabbing appeal one using her deathbed quote—which I'll say for the third time most urgently and immediately captures who she was and why she matters—most certainly has. Returning to Kid Canfield, the only reason I clicked on that DYK from earlier this month was the admittedly lurid quality of the ALT used. First man to die on live radio? Whoa! But upon clicking the link, I found that his life was not merely defined by this rather gonzo fact. He had a fascinating personal history with underworld types, a gambling career that sounded like something out of The Sting, and finally an improbable conversion to the good life. However, I would've never known about any of that had I not seen that tantalizing DYK. That's my point and that's why I prefer a rewording of the original ALT over something blander. Just to be clear, her sex makes no difference to me; had their roles been reversed, I would just as enthusiastically be pushing for a deathbed quote from Poulenc about Manceaux. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 17:36, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
go ahead, - just returning from good time outside --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:24, 23 June 2021 (UTC)


  • ... that, after her death, contemporaries of Frankish queen Austregilde both called her "the light of her homeland, the world, and the court" and compared her to Herod? Sources: "Gregory likens her sinful actions to Herod (DLH V.25) but confirms that King Guntram carried out this wish." "Instead, she is praised in glowing terms as the 'mother of kings, a surpassing royal wife, the light of her homeland, the world, and the court" regum genetrix et regia coniux/praecellens lumen patriae lux orbis et aulae." Mark A. Handley in Ch. 26 of The Oxford Handbook of the Merovingian World, pages 557-8 [62]; "She is said to have made a request to the king reminiscent of Herod..." Gregory of Tours as quoted by E. T. Dailey in Queens, Consorts, Concubines: Gregory of Tours and Women of the Merovingian Elite, page 92 [63]
  • Comment: This would be my 5th DYK.

Created by Egsan Bacon (talk). Self-nominated at 00:42, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

John Zampieri

  • Reviewed: TBA

Created by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:38, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

Guilty (manga)

  • ... that the theme song for Guilty's live-action television series is Toshi's first original song in 22 years? Source: Natalie (article) "Toshlが新川優愛ドラマ「ギルティ」主題歌担当、オリジナル曲のメジャー発売は22年ぶり [Toshi to perform the theme song of Yua Shinkawa's drama Guilty, his first original song to see a major release in 22 years]."

Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 23:21, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

Mont Tremblant Conference

The Mont Tremblant Conference was held at Mont-Tremblant, Quebec
The Mont Tremblant Conference was held at Mont-Tremblant, Quebec
  • ... that American delegates to the Mont Tremblant Conference argued that the British Empire should be liquidated after World War II?Source: https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/148814052.pdf, e.g. "Tyler Dennett (1883-1949), former historical adviser of the Department of State, emphasized in his memorandum to the conference that the American people would like to see a liquidation of the prewar colonial system and the abandonment of all kinds of imperial preferences". Also https://www.jstor.org/stable/3022402 (unfortunately paywalled), "A people's war meant to [the Americans] what had been said by Vice-President Wallace and by Assistant Secretary of State Sumner Welles − the end of imperialism".

Created by Astrophobe (talk). Self-nominated at 19:16, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

1988 United States House of Representatives election in Vermont

  • Reviewed: TBA

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:31, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

R. Bintoro

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 17:08, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

David Hale (baseball)

David Hale pitching for the Atlanta Braves
David Hale pitching for the Atlanta Braves
  • Reviewed: Joan Boada
  • Comment: The Athletic source is behind a paywall.

Improved to Good Article status by Kncny11 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:31, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svgHi Kncny11, review follows: article promoted to GA on 20 June; is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't find any overly close paraphrasing from a sample of the sources; a QPQ has been carried out; image is OK and freely licensed. Couple of minor issues with the hooks as proposed:
  • ALT0: I couldn't find the date of his thesis mentioned in the article, it only discusses his graduation in 2011, did he go back after? His lumbar injury was in 2019 according to the article, though there is mention of a groin strain in 2015.
  • ALT1: The article doesn't say that he was released and re-signed on the same day, only that he was "briefly released"
Other than that, looking good - Dumelow (talk) 07:20, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

Maria Simon (sociologist)

Simon in 2018
Simon in 2018
  • ... that Maria Simon met her husband through the Jewish youth group Hashomer Hatzair in Austria but married him only when they were both living in exile in the UK? Source: "Nur ein junger Mann habe ihr gefallen, erinnert sich die heute 100-Jährige, »das war Josef Simon, den ich später in England geheiratet habe«. Der Skikurs entpuppte sich als Tarnveranstaltung der sozialistischen Mitschüler-Organisation, die zu diesem Zeitpunkt schon verboten war. Dort sei sie politisiert worden, sagt Simon rückblickend. [... ] In dieser Zeit trifft sie auch Josef Simon wieder, den sie 1944 heiratet." and "Also in 1944, she married Joseph Simon, who she had already known from her time in the socialist youth movement in Vienna."
    • ALT1:... that the Austrian centenarian Maria Simon became a Senior Representative at the World Federation for Mental Health after retiring from her job as a sociologist? Source: Even after retirement in 1983, Maria Simon maintained her international ties and active involvement in social work, for example as Senior Representative at the United Nation’s World Federation of Mental Health (WFMH).
  • Comment: In the first hook, the interesting point is that they knew each other in Austria, lost contact, and reconnected only after both fled to England.

Created by Modussiccandi (talk). Self-nominated at 13:34, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

Thomas Stanton Lambert

  • ... that British army officer Thomas Stanton Lambert was killed by an IRA ambush while returning from a tennis match in 1921? "Colonel Commandant Lambert died at nine o'clock to-night from wounds received at 7.30 pm at Moydrum, County Westmeath, when returning from a tennis party." from: "Another Officer Killed". The Guardian. Newspapers.com. 21 June 1921. p. 9. Retrieved 19 June 2021. and "Local I.R.A. volunteers were recently informed that an officer from the military garrison in Athlone, Major-General Thomas Stanton Lambert, commanding officer of the 13th Brigade in Athlone and G.O.C. of the Dublin Brigade, was in the habit of going to a house near Coosan named Midges to play tennis ... Near Benown they found their path was suddenly blocked by a dozen armed men, led by Captain Elliott of the Tubberclair Volunteers." from:"The burning of Moydrum Castle". Westmeath Independent. 21 October 2009. Retrieved 18 June 2021.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 07:35, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

Packaged Pleasures

  • ... that the 2014 book Packaged Pleasures investigated the history of consumer culture and how the rise of packaging for products created "transmissible packets of pleasure" for popular consumption? Source: "This shift in consumer culture is convincingly explained by the fact that “fleeting and sensory experiences” were transformed into “reproducible and transmissible packets of pleasure” (p.7) thanks to the design of new technologies that enabled the pleasure-giving substances of a product to be intensified, produced in larger quantities, attractively packaged, and peddled to the masses via the marketing and advertising industry." (Gastronomica)

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self-nominated at 03:28, 20 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 21[edit]


Her Majesty's Buckhounds, 1875
Her Majesty's Buckhounds, 1875
  • ... that when Queen Anne became too old to follow her pack of Buckhounds on horseback, she had paths cut through the Windsor Forest so she could follow the hunt in a carriage? Griffin, Emma (2007). Blood sport: hunting in Britain since 1066. New Haven & London: Yale University Press. pp. 105–107 & 171–172. ISBN 978-0-300-11628-1.
    • ALT1:... that buck hunting held a special place in England during the reign of Edward III (1327–1377) when the Royal Buckhounds pack was established? Hancock, David (2014). Hounds: hunting by scent. Ramsbury, Marlborough: The Crowood Press Ltd. pp. 103–104. ISBN 978-1-84797-601-7.
  • Comment: My third DYK nomination, still a little green to provide a QPQ.

Created by Cavalryman (talk). Self-nominated at 05:57, 23 June 2021 (UTC).

Takarazuka Grand Theater

Takarazuka Grand Theater
Takarazuka Grand Theater

5x expanded by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:37, 21 June 2021 (UTC).

Lorraine Lambert

  • Reviewed: Susan Beharriell
  • Comment: feel free to make changes to the hooks and to the article or add an alt hook with the info that you feel should be revealed.

Created by Victuallers (talk, polished by Simeon). Self-nominated at 17:28, 21 June 2021 (UTC).

Klassische Philharmonie Bonn

Klassische Philharmonie Bonn in 2011
Klassische Philharmonie Bonn in 2011

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Grimes2 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:51, 21 June 2021 (UTC).

Peter Pernin

  • ...that Peter Pernin wrote his memoir of surviving the Peshtigo fire in French? Source: Mercier, Charles E. (ed.) Peshtigo 1871: Peter Pernin’s Peshtigo Fire Memoir The Finger of God Is There! TBR Books 2021. [64], “Pernin wrote the memoir in his native French. He called it Le doigt de Dieu est là! ou Episode émouvant d’un évènement étrange, raconté par un témoin oculaire. The book’s 18,000 words in 104 pages were published in trigesimo-secundo format (3 1⁄2 x 5 1⁄2 inches) in late spring 1874 by Eusèbe Senécal, one of the largest printers and publishers in Montreal," p 28, also image 1, itself
    • ALT1:... that Peter Pernin, author of the Peshtigo fire memoir, was the first resident chaplain of Mayo Clinic? Source: Mercier, Charles E. (ed.) Peshtigo 1871: Peter Pernin’s Peshtigo Fire Memoir The Finger of God Is There! TBR Books 2021. [65], “Cotter then named him, April 1, 1898, the first regularly appointed resident chaplain of St. Mary’s Hospital, Rochester, from which would emerge the institution now known collectively as Mayo Clinic.” p. 23-4
    • ALT2:... that Peter Pernin was disciplined by the Catholic diocese of Green Bay for spending too long away publishing his memoir of the Peshtigo fire? Source: Mercier, Charles E. (ed.) Peshtigo 1871: Peter Pernin’s Peshtigo Fire Memoir The Finger of God Is There! TBR Books 2021. [66], “‘[I] …went to G. Bay and came back the following day... with a letter stating that my “faculties were taken from me for having been too long in Canada.”’” p. 50-51

Created by Emperostheoros2 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:02, 21 June 2021 (UTC).

Uganda Volunteer Reserve

  • ... that one of the Uganda Volunteer Reserve's earliest roles in the First World War was to protect Kampala from looting by allied troops levied from Buganda? "in the early days of the war, at short notice, the Kampala companies of the Uganda Volunteer Reserve were called upon to provide an armed section to protect the Indian Bazaar and Native Market in Kampala. The occasion was the first arrival in Kampala of armed native levies raised by the Buganda Government; the step taken was a precautionary one because it was well known that in ancient times when the Kabaka called his warriors to war their first exploit in their own country was to loot markets and other places where food was stored. Owing to the preventative measures taken no damage occured in Kampala itself but the shambas in the surrounding country on the line of march of those who had answered the Kabaka's war drum suffered more or less severely" from: Hone, H. R. (January 1941). "The History of the Uganda Volunteer Reserve". Uganda Journal. VIII (2): 71.
    • ALT1:... that the Uganda Volunteer Reserve helped intern German nationals at the start of the First World War? "The active service duties carried on by the paid establishment included the following. On the 20th August, all German subjects living in and around Kampala were arrested and detained at the Central Gaol while those at Jinja wer etaken on the 22nd August and confined in the German Vice-Consulate there. At a later date all internees were collected from all parts of the Protectorate and detained in the Old Sikh barracks at Kampala. Later all were transferred to Nairobi where they were taken to India for internment. Members of the Uganda Volunteer Reserve were engaged in effecting the arrest of these alien enemies and in guarding them while in Uganda and when they were subsequently moved to Kenya" from Hone, H. R. (January 1941). "The History of the Uganda Volunteer Reserve". Uganda Journal. VIII (2): 70.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 10:32, 21 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 22[edit]

Tina Pereira

  • ... that ballerina Tina Pereira won a competition even though she was chosen to replace an injured dancer, and her partner got seriously injured mid-performance? Source: "She turned a pas de deux into a solo, and then danced an unrehearsed duet with an ad hoc partner, to win the prize for best female dancer at the Seventh International Competition for the prestigious Erik Bruhn Prize last weekend... When partner Keiichi Hirano injured himself by snapping his Achilles tendon, Pereira completed the dance on her own, improvising most of it along the way... She was a replacement Bruhn competitor, when, just two weeks before the contest, Bridgett Zehr was injured." ([67])
  • Reviewed: TBD

Created by Corachow (talk). Self-nominated at 09:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC).

Pyrenean Mountain Dog

Pyrenean Mountain Dog guarding sheep
Pyrenean Mountain Dog guarding sheep
  • Comment: Forth ever DYK nomination, still too green for a QPQ.

Improved to Good Article status by Cavalryman (talk). Self-nominated at 06:17, 23 June 2021 (UTC).

Brian Altman (poker player)

Created/expanded by Compy90 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC).


  1. ^ Fast, Erik (January 23, 2020). "Brian Altman Becomes The First Player To Ever Win The Same World Poker Tour Main Event Twice". CardPlayer.com. Retrieved June 22, 2021.

Permanent income hypothesis

Improved to Good Article status by BasedMises (talk). Self-nominated at 23:06, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

New Haven Armory

  • ... that the Connecticut National Guard, Frank Sinatra, and a full-sized Cape Cod house have all been seen at the New Haven Armory? Source: "While the state built the armory primarily to house the first battalion of the 102nd regiment of the Connecticut National Guard and the 2nd Company of the Governor’s Foot Guard in a separate wing, several other companies also took up residence at various times, including the 102nd Infantry Band, the 118th Medical regiment and late Medical Battalion, and briefly, the Naval Militia (until 1940)."; "In addition, it became a popular venue for nationally known entertainment from Frank Sinatra and the Tommy Dorsey Band at the annual Musician’s Ball, to a Soul Show in 1967 starring several big names of the day, the latter sponsored by an African-American organization."; "The public continued to stage dog and car shows, as well as antique, sportsmen, and home shows in the drill shed, at least one of which featured a full-sized Cape Cod-style house in the 1940s.", from NRHP nomination for New Haven Armory, State of Connecticut.

Created by Staib (talk). Self-nominated at 22:33, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

Cerro Overo

The maar is the black structure in the lower right corner
The maar is the black structure in the lower right corner
  • ... that the Cerro Overo (pictured) volcanic crater formed about 77,000 years ago?

5x expanded by Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk). Self-nominated at 17:03, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

Lucy Smith Millikin

Lucy Smith Millikin
Lucy Smith Millikin

Created by Cstickel(byu) (talk). Self-nominated at 15:00, 22 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 23[edit]

Prehistoric religion

Diorama representing Neolithic ritual
Diorama representing Neolithic ritual
"The Sorcerer" of Grotte de Gabillou, France
"The Sorcerer" of Grotte de Gabillou, France
  • ... that in the argument about whether shamanism (shamanic cave art pictured) was practiced in prehistoric religion, academics arguing each side called their opponents "shamaniacs" and "shamanophobes"? Source: Price, Neil (October 2011). "Shamanism". In Insoll, Timothy (ed.). The Oxford Handbook of the Archaeology of Ritual and Religion. Oxford, United Kingdom: Oxford University Press. pp. 989–990. ISBN 9780199232444.
    • ALT1:... that stone circles (pictured) such as Stonehenge were perhaps great graveyards of honoured spiritual leaders in prehistoric religion? Source: Hayden, Brian (17 December 2003). "Megaliths and Mages". Shamans, Sorcerers, and Saints: A Prehistory of Religion. Washington, DC: Smithsonian Books. pp. 230–233. ISBN 9781588341686.
    • ALT2:... that prehistoric religion was likely based around rituals (pictured) intended to strengthen community bonds, some perhaps as extreme as penile subincision (not pictured)? Source: Sterelny K (27 December 2019). "Religion: costs, signals, and the Neolithic transition". Religion, Brain & Behavior. 10 (3): 303–320. doi:10.1080/2153599X.2019.1678513.
  • Reviewed: Did you know nominations/Kate Nicholl
  • Comment: Images go in order (ALT0 with image 1, ALT1 with image 2, ALT2 with image 3). Really asking for a picture hook -- especially ALT2! That last one is probably my favourite, but needs that pictured/not pictured juxtaposition to work. As usual, the history is complicated by merging, and complicated additionally by the fact it's so long an article now and took quite a lot of edits to write; Special:Permalink/1025081072 is the last revision before me (4729 B/722 words), Special:Permalink/1029996948 is my first in mainspace (74 kB/11143 words).

5x expanded by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 09:51, 23 June 2021 (UTC).

Special occasion holding area[edit]

The holding area has moved to its new location at the bottom of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.

Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: [68]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: [69].
April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.