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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
February 17 1
March 27 1
April 17 1 1
April 30 1
May 1 1
May 2 1
May 4 3 1
May 5 1
May 7 1
May 9 1
May 12 1
May 13 2
May 14 2 1
May 15 5 2
May 16 4 2
May 17 3
May 18 3 2
May 20 2 1
May 21 7 5
May 22 9 5
May 23 4
May 24 2
May 25 5 2
May 26 5 2
May 27 2 1
May 28 5 2
May 29 1 1
May 30 8 2
May 31 7 2
June 1 12 4
June 2 10 5
June 3 11 3
June 4 6 2
June 5 6 2
June 6 6 5
June 7 11 3
June 8 14 4
June 9 7 3
June 10 11 6
June 11 15 6
June 12 1
June 13 4 2
June 14 10
June 15 8 3
June 16 9 3
June 17 1
Total 231 83
Last updated 07:16, 17 June 2021 UTC
Current time is 07:21, 17 June 2021 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
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To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

Backlogged?[edit]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on February 17[edit]

Koo (social network)

  • ... that the Koo App shot to prominence after Twitter got into a weeks-long standoff with the government of India? Source:Japan Times article
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Aman.kumar.goel (talk). Self-nominated at 11:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC).

Collapsing prior review from Bahnfrend. DanCherek (talk) 22:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - I checked only three of the sources, and two of them didn't support the relevant assertion. So, eg, where did the assertion that the messages are known as "Koos" come from? Similarly, where was the list of intended further languages sourced?
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Red XN - Can't tell yet, as the sources for some of the content are unclear.
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I've added a link and made a minor amendment to the hook. Bahnfrend (talk) 12:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend: I have addressed above issues with my recent edit. I don't think QPQ is needed because I have less than 5 nominations. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 11:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg It has been more than two weeks, and reviewer Bahnfrend has not returned; new reviewer needed to check the issues previously raised and see whether they have been addressed so the DYK criteria are met. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:08, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
New review by DanCherek
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - need sources for "first launched in Kannada", "Hindi", and all of the future languages. The Japan Times source says that Koo installs increased by 901,000, not that there were 901,000 installs
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Red XN - it would be great if the first two sentences of paragraph 3 (about Koo vs Twitter) could be reworded a little to make it more different from the source
  • Other problems: Red XN - there are concerns on the talk page about the article's title, and whether it should be moved to Koo (app) or Koo (social network), these should be addressed (whether or not the page is ultimately moved) prior to approval. (FWIW, I think I agree that it should be moved since the name of the app is just "Koo")
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg @Aman.kumar.goel: Thanks for your patience with this nomination, sorry for the delay. See comments above, there are a few remaining things that I think should be resolved before approval. Let me know if you have any questions. DanCherek (talk) 22:36, 4 April 2021 (UTC)

@DanCherek: Fixed these issues except the last one. The concern over the title might be outdated because it was 2 months ago and this microblogging service is referred to as "Koo App" in the sources that we have used. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 12:01, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
@Aman.kumar.goel: While the headlines say "Koo App", the prose in all of the sources call it "Koo", "the Koo platform", "the Koo app", etc., with no capitalization in "app". Reference [7] says: It is named just “Koo” on the App Store with Bombinate Technologies Private Limited as the provider. I think it's similar to how we have articles titled Twitter and Snapchat rather than "Twitter App" and "Snapchat App". Also, "first launched in Kannada", "Hindi", and all of the future languages should be sourced — I'm being annoying about this because if the unsourced material is removed it starts to approach the 1,500-character minimum DYK threshold. Thanks, let me know if you have any questions or if you want me to open it up for more opinions from WT:DYK. DanCherek (talk) 20:14, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
Hi Aman.kumar.goel; are you going to return to make the changes that the reviewer asked you about? It's been nearly a month now. If we don't hear from you in the next few days, this nomination will have to be closed. MeegsC (talk) 21:04, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5 and MeegsC: I have resolved all issues now. Let me know if any problems exist. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 05:20, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
DanCherek, how is it looking now? Do you approve it, or are there still issues? MeegsC (talk) 08:11, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Sigh... it's undergoing a big expansion by another user which is great for the article but always complicates things here. @Aman.kumar.goel: With the new content added by Badassboy 63637, there are now sections that need further copy-editing (e.g. capitalization issues, external links removal) and sources needed (e.g. "Most Followed Accounts" is unsourced). I also note the three editors on the talk page who are in support of a title change. DanCherek (talk) 12:31, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

@Aman.kumar.goel: Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:07, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Article has been moved to Koo (social network); I have adjusted this page to reflect the move except for the hook, which I'm not sure how to adjust beyond the link to the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:57, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Does this need a GOCE copyedit? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:46, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
The prose is generally fine and GOCE is probably not necessary; DYK-compliant sourcing is the only thing preventing this from being approved right now. DanCherek (talk) 14:13, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
After all the recent edits to the article, I don't see any serious issue with the article right now. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 10:56, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
There are two paragraphs in the article that are unsourced (in "Format, interface and features" and "Most followed accounts"); they need to be sourced per WP:DYKSG. DanCherek (talk) 22:07, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
@Aman.kumar.goel: Could you source the remaining unsourced paragraphs? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:27, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I have. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 07:31, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Pinging DanCherek to see whether the latest changes solve the sourcing issues. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks for the ping! All paragraphs sourced now so approving. DanCherek (talk) 02:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg The article refers to the app as Koo, Koo App, and Koo app. Which one is it? The hook doesn't sound that great with "got into a". Maybe ALT1 ... that the social network Koo became prominent after a weeks-long standoff between Twitter and the Government of India? SL93 (talk) 05:21, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
ALT1 looks fine to me. Thanks. DanCherek (talk) 14:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Unreferenced contact was just added to the article. SL93 (talk) 06:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Already removed by other editor. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 14:34, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Aman.kumar.goel Can you make the article consistent with what the subject is? SL93 (talk) 16:56, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Some sections read like an advert, others like a howto. Desertarun (talk) 21:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 27[edit]

The Great Seljuks: Guardians of Justice

Improved to Good Article status by Limorina (talk). Self-nominated at 08:25, 27 March 2021 (UTC). Review comments to Chidgk1 please as Limorina has now retired from Wikipedia according to their user page

  • No, you have to link and bold the article in each hook. Also, neither of these hooks are particularly interesting or unusual. It isn't strange for a government official to visit a major production and actors probably celebrate birthdays on set all the time. (t · c) buidhe 14:26, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
  • I think there's some potential in ALT3 but right now it needs to have some grammatical fixes. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:34, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
  • The Turkish word "plato" does mean "plateau" in geography but here it means "set". I submit the following - but fear it will be assassinated due to exclamation marks! Chidgk1 (talk) 18:03, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment Perhaps "plato" could be translated as backlot? Chidgk1 11:23, May 12, 2021
  • @Limorina: and/or @Buidhe: - hope you are well - let me know if you would like me to continue with this Chidgk1 (talk) 18:34, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • I think that ALT4 is an in-universe hook, which is not allowed by our rules. (t · c) buidhe 18:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment. I agree that the hooks are not very interesting. Might I suggest that the name of the film be given in English, and I suggest a plot based hook. How about;
Alt 5 ... that the 2020 Turkish historical drama The Great Seljuks: Guardians of Justice tells the story of Malik-Shah I's struggle against Hassan-i Sabbah, leader of the Order of Assassins?4meter4 (talk) 20:24, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
@Limorina: and/or @Buidhe: - hope you are well - Alt 5 looks good to me - can we go with that? Chidgk1 (talk) 19:38, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  • I like Alt 5. Just saying. --evrik (talk) 22:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg As it seems the issues with the nomination have been resolved. I am relisting this for review. --evrik (talk) 22:35, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
  • If this is being DYK nominated on the basis of passing GA, I would like to see a GAR before it goes anywhere (first order: move to official English title). If it was also 5x expanded within timeframe, switch the nom to that and we can proceed. Alt 5 is PLOT, more hook suggestions needed, though fixing the English of some of the original hook proposals could work. Kingsif (talk) 23:21, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
Perhaps a reworded version of ALT3? ALT3a ... that the production of the film Uyanış: Büyük Selçuklu employed 350 décor employees, 100 carpenters and a team of 60 people? It's not a great hook but it seems to be the best option among the ones proposed so far, unless someone could think up of a better hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:03, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
We'd have to find out what a "décor employee" is, and what that extra 60 person "team" is doing, before approving that. I was thinking of the birthday one - assuming this is recent, why would a whole family be invited to a COVID set for a birthday? Kingsif (talk) 05:26, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

OK guys as @Limorina:'s user page says they have retired (feel free to take it back if you wish Limorina - otherwise I hope you enjoy your retirement) as discussed on my talk page I hereby take over the role of editor responding to reviewers comments. I will respond to the above - hopefully soon - and is anyone willing to be the reviewer? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:15, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@Kingsif: Thanks for useful suggestion - I hereby switch the nomination to 5X expanded Chidgk1 (talk) 12:28, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

@Kingsif: I don't see any problem with ALT5 - it is not really giving away the plot so I don't think it is a spoiler. I have not watched any of it yet but the mention of the assassins makes me more interested. Are you taking on the role of reviewer? If not whoever is the reviewer - are you happy with ALT5? Chidgk1 (talk) 12:49, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

It's not a spoiler, it's just only PLOT - it says "X tells the story of Y". Most works tell the story of something, so it's an empty hook. There's nothing about the real world. If you want me as reviewer, I would call this nom no hope and close it as a "no"; it wasn't 5x expanded in the 7 days before nom and the GA status is dubious at best, so I don't think it even qualifies, but even then the article isn't good and the hooks are nonsense or empty. Kingsif (talk) 12:58, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Oh sorry I misread your comment about 5X and did not see the "If". I won't be offended if you or anyone else wants to do a GAR - if it does not take too much time I will attempt to defend it as GA - but will abandon if too much work. Meanwhile I hereby switch back to "good article" as the basis. I don't mind who reviews so long as it is clear who that is. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
To be on the safe side it probably does need a GAR. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:15, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

As I am representing the author I cannot be a reviewer - thanks for all your helpful edits and comments - would anyone like to officially be the reviewer? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:17, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 30[edit]

Jane Margyl

Jane Margyl as Dalila
Jane Margyl as Dalila

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 10:50, 5 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, no copyvio, hook verified, image is fine. BUT there are a few things. There needs to be a citation after "left the Folies Bergère". The siblings need to be verified, each of em. And, and this is bigger, the citations aren't correct: "Gallica" is not the publisher. The hook is verified to an article from Le monde artiste, and it's titled "Courrier de la semaine", on p. 621--all that information needs to be in the citation, and it's the same for almost all the other citations. Drmies (talk) 17:06, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
    You are right, and I hope LouisAlain can help. I usually find sources, but not in this case, - she seems known for having been photographed. Pages and pages of photos ... - Großes Sängerlexikon doesn't have her, or I have no access to the page. Grimes2, do you know? Could you help with the refs? My French is marginal, sadly. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:45, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
A picture of her grave but ebay.fr may be forbidden to use ? LouisAlain (talk) 18:04, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
There is already a picture of her grave on commons (already added to fr article of Margyl) https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tombe_Jane_Margyl,_Cimetière_des_Batignolles,_Paris.jpg Grimes2 (talk) 06:41, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
Großes Sängerlexikon doesn't have her. Grimes2 (talk) 18:02, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
via Gallica refs:  Done Grimes2 (talk) 10:00, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
I just spent ten minutes on the first sentence of the "Life" section, making copy edits (punctuation), completing the templates (page numbers, authors), and checking the facts. Looking at other references I see that more of the same needs to be done, and it seems to me that there are a lot of minor edits to be made as well. A few examples: L'Enlèvement des Sabines should probably link to The Rape of the Sabine Women, because our audience is mostly English readers. The xs4all website is not reliable unless a strong case can be made for it, but I looked at the index and I am not sure how (it's someone's hobby project--admirable, but I don't think it will stand up to strong scrutiny). The "Family" section lists at least one person with no claim to notability, and a questionable link to a blog of someone who scours cemeteries. Best to cut that name, but then the text needs to be adjusted too... Drmies (talk) 19:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Jane Margyl started her career as a mime and became an opera singer?

That leaped off the page for me as a hook. —valereee (talk) 13:34, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the offer, but I think that the two well-known Paris institutions, and her signature role, add more precision to what kind of mime and opera singer. That hook doesn't even mention Paris, and leaves her without date and place, saying something that could be said also of others. To my understanding, the problem is the sourcing, not the hook, and I have a hard time, not able to dig up anything in French. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Having said that, I found a ref (a festival, English/French), and then found that it was already in the article. The information about the family members looks consistent on the web. Drmies, what do you think? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:04, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt, I went to look at that, but thought I'd look at just one reference--and this is what needed doing. Drmies (talk) 20:32, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Do you mean have the refs templated? I first wanted to make sure that the new ones were acceptable. Will look again tomorrow. I was away for some days, and need to nom a DYK today the latest, - too tired already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:13, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
No, it's rather that the things I pointed out earlier are still present in the article--it's not the template, because they're already templated, but this one didn't have an author's name, page numbers, complete title, and the text (about that statue) was not completely correct. Drmies (talk) 21:36, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry for jumping in without checking enough into what. I templated a few more refs, and replaced the one that is ecternal link anyway. Looking at one (#13 Le Monde), the author is just A.Z. - would it really help to list that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I looked at the others. Some are just short press notices, no author. Some are in the middle of something where I don't find an author. I could add a few more page numbers but does it really help when the click takes to the right page anyway? I understand the need for a page number better when in a long pdf, where it is needed to find the item. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:53, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
But Gerda, there is something (a lot) to be said for complete citations, and in this case there were no page numbers, an incomplete title, and no author. And on top of that the text did not properly reflect what was in the article. "Mourning her loss" was a bit too imaginative, and, by the way, that article also expanded on how she died, which would be a very interesting thing to put in the article... Your recent edits improve the article, and it's good enough for the front page. BUT: your original hook is not fully verified. "Mezzo-soprano" is not verified at all in the article. It might be in one of the sources, maybe in the reference for "followed the advice of Alexandre Luigini"--but there one wants to know what that advice consisted of anyway. Plus, what does "became a mezzo-soprano" mean? She changed her style or range or so? So I'd be fine with that hook if it is verified--but it's still a bit cryptic for a general audience. User:Valereee's hook is clear and simple, but doesn't have the detail you want--unless you make it "mime at the FB and became a mezzo soprano at the Paris Opera" or something like that. Drmies (talk) 15:52, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I just think the fact she started out as a professional mime and became a professional singer is easily the most interesting thing about her. The fact she was famous for communicating without making a sound, and then for making sounds? Fabulous. —valereee (talk) 16:01, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Will think. mime vs. singer could be anywhere, not the two top institutions of Paris. Dalila is a mezzo role - the great exception among all these soprano heroines, besides Carmen - so we singers with low-register voices want to say so ;) - I will look again later today, hungry, and no walk yet. We could drop Dalila in the hook because it's repetitive to the caption, in case you want to word something that says mime at the Folies. - I'm a bit reluctunt because mime at that time seems to have a bit different meaning from today's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:06, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
How do you feel about dropping the mezzo then? - I have a hard time integrating it in the present text, because her early roles are soprano, but Dalila and Amneris are certainly not.
ALT2: ... that Jane Margyl began her stage career as a mime at the Folies Bergère, and appeared as Dalila (pictured) at the Paris Opera in 1905? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

User:Valereee? I think it's fine. Drmies (talk) 20:06, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Honestly I think it lose interest emphasising the name of the opera and opera company. I think it would get more attention if we focus on what more people would find interesting, and we're burying it here. It definitely loses by not contrasting mime/singing...maybe 'and sang Dalila'? I dunno. Why aren't we just going with a clearly high-general-interest hook instead of insisting on mentioning opera houses and operas, which are of not super-high general interest? The woman started her career as a mime and ended it as an opera singer. That's, like the opposite of a mime lol. Whatever. Piping redirect. —valereee (talk) 20:35, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I try to avoid "sang Dalila" because she also should act, and "sang" is too little. There is no opera title, Dalila is just the heroine, the title is in French. She is pictured as Dalila, and not to mention it seems leaving the image in the air. But go ahead and try. ALT1 - with no hint at notability, just some mime becoming singer anyplace anytime - is not what I'd like. We have millions of readers of the Main page, but only 3.000 will click on her article, - so I try to give also the others some information. I hope the image will be taken, and that is the attraction, not our wording. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Jane Margyl as Dalila in 1905
Jane Margyl as Dalila in 1905
ALT3: ... that Jane Margyl began her stage career as a mime at the Folies Bergère, and became an leading singer of the Paris Opera? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:01, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 1[edit]

Marie-Adolphine, Marie-Hermine of Jesus, Maria Chiara Nanetti, Marie de la Paix Giuliani

Sister Marie Adolphin
Sister Marie Adolphin

Created by PamD (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 23:05, 4 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Ooh, a nice quadruple hook here! Each article looks good for the main page, were made on May 1 or 2, and are at least 1500 characters; for some odd reason I'm being told that Marie-Adolphine is a stub by DYKcheck, not sure why. QPQ is all good and hook is a catcher. See you at WP:DYKSTATS! Also did they all go by "Mary"? 7 Mary's sounds like an Abbot and Costello skit hah! - Floydian τ ¢ 15:53, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg There is some significant overlap in text among these articles. Since the overlapping text can only be used towards the character count of one article, this drops the other three below the 1500 word threshold for DYK. They'll need to be expanded a bit to qualify, so I'm putting this nom on hold until the issue has been resolved. MeegsC (talk) 09:22, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

@MeegsC: They now pass a 2000 char limit and I have paraphrased the areas of duplication. Victuallers (talk) 12:57, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Pinging also Nikkimaria, who is an experienced judge of just this kind of overlap. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:48, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Keep in mind that minor rephrasing doesn't make the content new - it still doesn't qualify towards the count, so we're still short here. In addition to the interarticle duplication, I'm concerned that other articles have been closely paraphrased without sufficient attribution, eg Boxer Rebellion. Are there others? Nikkimaria (talk) 00:01, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
I can't say that I agree, but nevertheless I have recast the hook to contain only one article, as adding another 500 chars to each may still be disputed. Can this be assessed please. @MeegsC:@BlueMoonset:@Nikkimaria: Thanks Victuallers (talk) 09:33, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
I'll defer to Nikkimaria's expertise, as this was the first multiple nom I've dealt with when promoting sets. I'm learning more every day! MeegsC (talk) 13:11, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Moving down to one article sidesteps the duplication issue, but I would still like a response on the issue of copying from other articles - this needs to be properly attributed. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:54, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
That's correct Nikkimaria, but it is not relevant to this approval, and I'm quite willing to address the issue, without sidestepping, but not while the nomination is held to ransom. I hope you can see that this is reasonable if not your preferred route. This particular article had 1580 characters on the 4th May before I nominated it and I don't believe there is any duplication in this article that needs to be addressed. If you can identify some then I'd be pleased to remove it. Victuallers (talk) 15:32, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 2[edit]

Norman K. Risjord

  • ... that historian Norman K. Risjord worked in counter-intelligence in Berlin before he obtained his Phd and pursued a career in American history?  Sources: • Norman K. Risjord: University of Wisconsin, biography;   • Memorials: Norman Risjord, Omohundro Institute

Created by Gwillhickers (talk). Self-nominated at 18:42, 5 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I am willing to review it, but first, the subject's notability is not clear. Could you elaborate here or on the article's talk how they meet WP:NPROF/WP:NBIO and ping me? The current sources for the article are low-key obituaries from his Department and funeral home, hardly independent (one presumably written by his colleagues at work, the other by his family and friends). I'll continue the review once the notability is made clear. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 07:37, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
@Piotrus: -- Risjord is noted in the academic and historical community for having authored more than twenty books on American history. That he worked for US intelligence before pursuing a career in history also makes him interesting, imo. The article is for reference, as Risjord's name occurs from time to time in other works of history. I wouldn't go so far as to say he's famous, but he is noted among historians and the like. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:01, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
[Add] Risjord's studies and writings about the birth and development of US political party system that emerged after the American Revolution were published in six separate volumes, and are considered standard works on the development of the early American party system. There is no other historian who has written in this important area of study nearly as much as Risjord has. -- Gwillhickers (talk) 20:38, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 4[edit]

Olivos metro station, Tezonco metro station

Tezonco–Olivos section
Tezonco–Olivos section
  • ... that the Superior Audit Office of the Federation of Mexico made observations in 2017 of damages to the TezoncoOlivos section (pictured) previous to its collapse in May 2021? Source: "Justo en el tramo de las estaciones Olivos-Tezonco, la Auditoría Superior de la Federación, realizó algunas observaciones de daños luego del sismo ocurrido en septiembre del año 2017, mismos que no se resolvieron." ["Right in the Olivos-Tezonco stations section, the Superior Audit Office of the Federation, made some observations of damages after the earthquake occurred in September 2017, which were not resolved.]" (Canal 44)

5x expanded by Tbhotch (talk). Self-nominated at 16:34, 7 May 2021 (UTC); new article by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 19:46, 9 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg @Tbhotch: Both pages have received new enough and large enough expansions, and a double-QPQ is present. The source in both articles (identical text) checks out and supports the claims in the article. I did have to improve both pages to make the writing more idiomatic, and the hook needs the same treatment. I'm particularly wondering if "Superior Auditor of the Federation" (which I had personally used in my work before) may be a better translation for the ASF, though I note that English-language published material is absolutely all over the place, for instance this OECD report uses three different translations (and I'm contemplating writing the missing article). This is basically ALT0 repackaged: Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 06:39, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
ALT0a: ... that the Superior Auditor of the Federation of Mexico observed damage to an overpass between Tezonco and Olivos stations on the Mexico City Metro prior to its collapse in May 2021?
  • I have no objection to the wording on either of those, pending another reviewer since I've now contributed an article to the hook. Sammi Brie (she/her • tc) 18:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Sabacc, Dejarik

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 06:04, 4 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Both articles are new enough, long enough, QPQs done, no image, pass earwig. Hook is okay, though it is somewhat wordy. Can we strengthen the hook? --evrik (talk) 03:28, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  • When I read the hook, I shrug and say, ehhh. I know what you're trying to say ... it's kind of boring the way it's written. --evrik (talk) 04:19, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Alt1 ... that neither holochess nor sabacc, two games featured in the Star Wars movies, have a definitive real-world rule-set?
Here is my take. --evrik (talk) 15:21, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Evrik, Shorter - I like it, but I'd quibble that the games are not just featured in the movies, the even 'cooler' fact is that the Star Wars movies (media...) invented them in the first place. How would you go about clarifying that in your proposed hook? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:26, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 5[edit]

Kendra Sunderland

  • Reviewed: U.S. v. McMahon
  • Comment: I omitted what the award is for because I’m not sure people should see “tits” on the front page.

Created by Trillfendi (talk). Self-nominated at 00:09, 5 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Lets review:
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article is all good. But misses on timelines. Like it does not mention that she won the award in 2018. Also, there is no censorship required in the article (censorship may be required on main page). Hence you can freely mention the tits in the article but maybe skip from the hook. In fact, you can rephrase Alt1 in such an intriguing manner that people will want to click and read full article to know for what she won the award. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:42, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

I assumed that putting the inaurugal event that it would be redundant to include the year, but if you want me to I’ll add it. Trillfendi (talk) 01:47, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Not everyone keeps chronology of award in their mind to know when the inaugural award was present. Alt1 is good to go. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:30, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
I had the assumption that the reader would go to the hyperlinked article. Trillfendi (talk) 12:56, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Returned from queue per talk —valereee (talk) 01:35, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 7[edit]

American Pre-Raphaelites

  • ... that the American Pre-Raphaelite painters had an obsession with depicting birds' nest still lifes? Source: "It would appear more than coincidental that the emphasis upon informal stilllife elements, the accidental, humble object found in nature, precisely, meticulously rendered, began to appear in American art at just the time when the first major show of English painting was presented to the American public. Moreover, we have noted the profusion of Bird's Nest subjects in American painting after this time." [1]
    • ALT1:... that the American Pre-Raphaelites rebuked Albert Bierstadt's The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak by saying "20 times the study ... would not have justified him in attempting to fill so large a canvas"? Source: "Six years later, The Rocky Mountains, Lander's Peak was criticized by American pre-Raphaelites who thought that "twenty times the study that the artist has given to this picture,-study represented by actual sketches, built upon a previous ten years ... would not have justified him in attempting to fill so large a canvas" (New Path, April 1864, 161, quoted in Anderson and Ferber 1990, 194). " [2]

Created by Wingedserif (talk). Self-nominated at 16:41, 14 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Article new enough, created on May 7, the same day it was nominated. Long enough at over 4200 characters.
  • There are major problems with the references in this article; many don't support the statements made. For example, ref1 does say that Ruskin's book struck a chord with the Transcendalists, but p. 44 says nothing about plein air painting. Ref3 doesn't mention Emerson or Norton at all, and it doesn't mention Ruskin's painting. The last phrase in the last sentence of the fourth paragraph of the History section isn't supported by any source. Ref9 has the wrong page number; the article states that Richards became a marine painter on pp. 5 and 14. I'm sure you get my point, so I'll stop here. I'm unable to verify the sources in several refs because they're inaccessible, but I wouldn't be surprised if they suffered from the same issues. At any rate, this is a concerning issue with this article.
  • The first hook is fine, but there's nothing in the article about Bierstadt's painting.
  • There are major issues with the prose, which is secondary to the problems with the utilization of sources. The paragraphs are too short, probably because not enough information from the sources are included, giving this article a problem with comprehensiveness.
  • I can't pass this article in its current state. I recommend that you remove the nomination, give up the DYK, and work on how you use sources. Symbol delete vote.svg Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 21:01, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
To your citation criticism: Ref1 was to connect Ruskin to Transcendental ideals, not plein air painting. Both the use of plein air painting and the popularity of Modern Painters are established by Ref3. Ref4 is to establish that Norton and Emerson in fact read Modern Painters. In Ref8 (I assume you meant), the relevant information is on the 12th page of the pdf—a mistake, yes, but a small one. As for the 4th graf of the history section, you'll notice that ref10 also establishes that the American Pre-Raphaelites criticized Bierstadt. The specific claim about the criticism of manifest destiny is verifiable in the Ferber 2019 source, which I have not had time to track down IRL. To me, none of this adds up to a "concerning issue" that fails to meet WP:V and can't be resolved w/ 1-2 edits. (As an aside, I wish you had phrased your criticism constructively instead of throwing your hands up.)
I do not believe the article's paragraphs are too short, and their length is not a result of "not enough information". I break paragraphs often because they help structure information for a reader. As far as I know, DYK does not have a comprehensiveness criteria, so I don't know why "a problem with comprehensiveness" is even part of the rationale for failing this nomination. At ~4200b, this article is well over the 1,500b requirement. —Wingedserif (talk) 02:17, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Having taken a quick look at this, I'm as baffled as User:Wingedserif as to why User:Figureskatingfan has reacted this harshly. I don't see "major issues with the prose"; what issues there are are minor enough to be addressed as part of this review. The paragraphs aren't unduly short and a "problem with comprehensiveness" would be relevant at Good Article Review but is odd grounds for denying a DYK. I urge the reviewer to give the author a chance to resolve the minor problems with the article. This could be a constructive and positive process, resulting in better quality articles, if we choose it to be. MartinPoulter (talk) 14:21, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Sorry that I came across as harsh, I was trying to help make the article better. Yes, my comments about comprehensiveness are more general than what's needed more DYK, but I think that if the nominator followed my suggestions, it would improve it. I said that I couldn't pass it for DYK based upon the issues with the references and the utilization of sources; sorry if that wasn't made clear. I also was concerned that the same issues would appear in the sources that aren't accessible, which I suspect they do. My point is that your references need to support your statements and claims. I see that your statement about plein air painting is supported by ref3, but putting ref1 after the word "ideals," makes it look like the ref is supporting the entire phrase, including the claim about plein air painting. The solution, I think, is to put ref1 at the end of the sentence. Yes, this is being picky, but it was easy for me to assume that ref1 supports both claims when it doesn't, so the simple solution is to move the ref. I think that if an article lands on the main page, it needs to be accurate. If you fix the above issues, I'll assume that you fixed the issues about the inaccessible references and sources and will pass this for DYK. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:09, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I see that you've resolved the above issues, so I'm passing this for DYK. Unrelated to this DYK: I think that this article has great potential for improvement, so I suggest that you work on it some more. I also suggest that you remove the "Legacy" section and put the one sentence in another place in the article, until you add more content about the American Pre-Raphaelites' affect on American art. That way, you can remove the tag. Thanks, best to you. Symbol voting keep.svg Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:31, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

@Figureskatingfan: yay, thank you! (And thank you for looking through the additional edits; I do appreciate the time and care you've taken with this review.) I'm glad that adding the quotes for the supporting citations helped clarify what of the existing text is supported by each source. And I absolutely agree: there are essentially three full books on the movement to expand the article, which I'm hoping to get to when my life becomes less hectic 🙃. —Wingedserif (talk) 03:11, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
You're welcome. I know that it's annoying when DYK reviewers review more than what's necessary, but for me, it's because I sincerely want articles (especially those that'll appear on the main page) become as good as they can. Sometimes we need to clarify the difference between comments made for the review and the comments made for improvement sake. Make sure, after you do your research with those three books, that you submit this for GAN. Who knows, maybe you'll become our resident expert on the American Pre-Raphaelites. ; Best to you, keep up the good work. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 03:19, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I've submitted this at WP:GOCE for a copyedit. This article will pass DYK but needs minor rewording that GOCE will be able to take care of. Desertarun (talk) 08:21, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I've verified Alt0. So were good to go when the copy edit is done. Desertarun (talk) 19:36, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 9[edit]

Bullshit (G-Dragon song)

Converted from a redirect by Nkon21 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:49, 16 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg the hook reads a little awkward to me at the moment ("in respect to"? And I'd straight up say what the scandal was--marijuana and drug overdose?) and seems to present the reason for the switch as a concrete "fact", whereas in the article itself, the phrasing is more tentative ("for reasons not immediately disclosed", "many observers have speculated"). Anyway given the provocative title, the hook defo has more potential. Otherwise the other criteria seem to be met (I don't understand Korean so I'll have to AGF on the Korean sources). Cheers! Kingoflettuce (talk) 18:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for your responses. Given the feedback, would this work: "... that Big Bang's G-Dragon switched his mini-album's title track from "Bullshit" to "Untitled, 2014" on the day of its release amid his bandmate's marijuana and drug overdose scandal? (same source)

Articles created/expanded on May 12[edit]

Special motion to strike

  • ... that the Ninth Circuit has held that a special motion to strike, the motion allowed by the anti-SLAPP statute in California, can be used in federal court as well as state court? Source: Batzel v. Smith, 333 F.3d 1018, 1025 (9th Cir. 2003). ("Because California law recognizes the protection of the anti-SLAPP statute as a substantive immunity from suit, this Court, sitting in diversity, will do so as well.")
    • ALT1:... that government-funded non-profits are not subject to a special motion to strike, and so are exempt from California's anti-SLAPP law? Source: Cal. Code of Civil Procedure § 425.17 subd. (d) ("Any nonprofit organization that receives more than 50 percent of its annual revenues from federal, state, or local government grants, awards, programs, or reimbursements for services rendered.")

Created by Amitabho (talk). Self-nominated at 01:05, 15 May 2021 (UTC).

  • The article is long enough and new enough. It is written in an encyclopedic style with inline references. There are a few cases of bare URLs being used as references (ref 5, 8, and 23 in the current version); please express them as formatted citations. I think ref 23 should be treated carefully: this is a "newsroom alert" by a law firm, so it is written by a professional expert but it is effectively self-published. I think the text should attribute it as the analysis of one particular firm rather than stating it as fact.
The copyvio detector finds a lot of text common between the article and existing sources, especially in the sections on Commercial speech and Exceptions, where you've reproduced some of the legal code. If we are dealing with legal text that is in the public domain, then it would be okay to reuse it: I don't know if that's the case with California State law as opposed to Federal law, so I welcome clarification on this. In the lead, the phrase "speech made in connection with an issue under consideration or review by a legislative, executive, or judicial proceeding, or any other official proceeding authorized by law" seems to be verbatim from an existing source, maybe itself drawing from the legal code. It needs to be rephrased unless the legal code itself is in the public domain, in which case the source needs to be cited. You've helpfully provided web links for most of the legal documents cited, and I have to assume good faith on the rest: if you provide web links for more of the citations, that's welcome but not mandatory.
I think the original hook is a bit hard to take in with its multiple clauses referring to three different courts, but ALT1 expresses an interesting and digestable fact. This fact is expressed in the article with a suitable inline source. A QPQ seems to be not necessary in this case as the nominator has not made 5 DYK noms. You've done good work creating an accessible overview of a piece of legislation and there are just small changes needed to get this to the required standard (fix citations and clarify the copyright status, or rephrase text where necessary). Symbol question.svg MartinPoulter (talk) 14:04, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Having looked up [3] it seems that the legal code on that site is in the public domain, so there isn't a copyright issue, but I ask you to just make sure that every time public domain text is used there is a citation to attribute it: the Commercial speech/ Exemptions sections look okay in this regard, but there is also that "speech made in connection with..." part of the lead which needs citation or rewording. MartinPoulter (talk) 14:13, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 13[edit]

On China

  • ... that On China is a 2011 book made by Henry Kissinger which provides authentic insights into the personalities of China's most infamous communist leaders Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai?
  • ALT1: ... that On China is part of an effort to make sense of China's strategy in diplomacy and foreign policy over 3000 years and part an attempt to provide an authentic insight on Chinese Communist Party leaders? Source:[1]

Created/expanded by Clancoo (talk). Self-nominated at 03:41, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

General eligibility:

  • New Enough: Red XN - Article became non-redirect in 2012, has yet to reach Good Article Status, and expanded beginning 13 May 2021
  • Long Enough: Green tickY

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - the book doesn't provide authentic insights; it tries to.
  • Interesting: Red XN - I think the hook should teach us something new or unexpected, not state something kind of obvious about the subject
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol delete vote.svg Author requested article review at the Teahouse, so I checked the other criteria despite quickfailing this DYK nomination for article age. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 05:05, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg There didn't have to be a "quickfailing" for article age. The nomination was submitted just three days late, and leeway is almost always given to new users for such a short amount of time. If there are other issues, Clancoo should be allowed to take care of them. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 19:27, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Zagoria, Donald (26 August 2011). "A Review of On China. By Henry Kissinger". American Foreign Policy Interests. 33 (4): 192. doi:10.1080/10803920.2011.605718.

BigID

  • ... that the American-Israeli company BigID became a unicorn just four years after it was founded? [4]
    • ALT1:... that the American-Israeli company BigID attained an evaluation of $1 billion just four years after it was founded?
  • Comment: My first DYK. No QPQ requirement.

Created by הסיסמא123 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:44, 16 May 2021 (UTC).

My Review:
  • New Green checkmarkY Yes – indeed was published on May 16
  • Long enough Green checkmarkY Yes – far more than the minimum of 1,500 characters
  • Within policy Red X symbolN No There are concerns here. The table under "Products" does not include inline citations for all entries. Also, some very close paraphrasing picked-up by Earwig here These need to be remedied before I can approve this nomination.
  • Format – Not sure whether it is a problem that most people might not be familiar as to what the term "unicorn" means, as it relates to finance. Might limit the only proposed hook's interest to a "broad audience".
  • QPQ – Irrelevant, as this indeed is verifiably the editor's first nomination for DYK
Conclusion: I cannot approve it at this time. There are aforementioned issues with the article that must first be remedied. I'd also suggest, perhaps, that a better hook be proposed.
SecretName101 (talk) 15:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
@הסיסמא123: review conducted. Article has issues that need to be addressed. SecretName101 (talk) 15:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you @SecretName101:. I edited the article further in order to avoid close paraphrasing and added some of the text in the table with inline citations to the "Products" section. I think that being unfamiliar with the term unicorn in that context makes the hook more interesting to a "broad audience". That said, I added an alternative. הסיסמא123 (talk) 02:44, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

@הסיסמא123: Still appear to be instances of close paraphrasing (erwig) SecretName101 (talk) 14:37, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

@SecretName101: what is the threshold that is acceptable in your eyes? הסיסמא123 (talk) 15:22, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Close paraphrasing that verges on copyright infringement/plagiarism should not be present. 03:36, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

@SecretName101: I have made further changes and I do not think that there are any close paraphrasing that verges on copyright infringement/plagiarism. Can you please check again? הסיסמא123 (talk) 17:23, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
I've been asked to review the paraphrasing in this article. I do see portions that are too closely paraphrased from the original sources. Compare for example "The company's product combines cataloging, correlation, cluster analysis, and machine learning-based classification that assist companies to understand, detect, protect, and infer value out of their data" with "combining machine learning-based classification, cataloging, correlation, and cluster analysis to help companies better understand, protect, and derive value from their data". Nikkimaria (talk) 01:48, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback Nikkimaria. Given that erwig isn't currently indicating that there are any close paraphrasing in the article, and that the difference between close paraphrasing and paraphrasing is subjective, can you please list all of the close paraphrasing that exist today in your opinion? That would be helpful. As for the example above, do you think that "BigID's data intelligence platform includes such features as cataloging, correlation, cluster analysis, and classification, that assist their customers to protect, make sense of, and infer value out of the data stored in their systems" still constitutes close paraphrasing? If so, can you please suggest another paraphrasing? Thanks again. הסיסמא123 (talk) 19:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Earwig doesn't check for close paraphrasing; it can only assess whether there has been word-for-word copying. Close paraphrasing is assessed by direct comparison. If paraphrasing is not possible, you can always use a direct quote. Nikkimaria (talk) 23:32, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 14[edit]

Red-billed pied tanager

Red-billed pied tanager
Red-billed pied tanager

5x expanded by Craigthebirder (talk) and Casliber (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 03:31, 16 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The image is appropriately licensed, the hook facts are cited inline, the article is neutral, and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ has been done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:35, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Craigthebirder and Casliber, I was going to promote this one, but see that there are external links within the article (in the Voice section). These will need to be fixed before it can be promoted. MeegsC (talk) 14:51, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
MeegsC and Casliber. MeegsC, do you mean the links to the vocalizations in Xeno-canto? How should they be fixed? Craigthebirder (talk) 15:10, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Craigthebirder, the sentences in that section should be sourced to a print/online reference, not a url link. To direct people to sounds, use the xeno-canto template. (See black-chinned sparrow for an example.) MeegsC (talk) 15:16, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
MeegsC I see that, but the template just goes to the X-c species page, not to individual vocalizations that I wanted to highlight. Is there a way to both have and eat my cake? (BTW, the quotes are sourced.) Craigthebirder (talk) 16:28, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Craigthebirder, try template:birdsong or template:listen. MeegsC (talk) 16:32, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
MeegsC Tried separate "birdsong" templates for song and call but couldn't get the captions to show. So just went with it to the X-c species page. Craigthebirder (talk) 17:09, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
You'll need to download the audio file from canto, upload it to commons with the right license, then use the template:listen to link it. It isn't easy but I hope you manage it, because listening to the bird adds a lot to the article. If not you could delete the external link. Desertarun (talk) 16:33, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
Actually Desertarun, he doesn't need to do that at all. The birdsong template works just fine as Craigthebirder had used it. It would be completely inappropriate to download the file from xeno-canto to commons, as the files on xeno-canto have a non-commercial license, and thus cannot be uploaded to commons. MeegsC (talk) 17:36, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
I wasn't aware of the licenses on the canto website. Can this be promoted now? Desertarun (talk) 18:40, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 15[edit]

T. S. Shanbhag

Created by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 16:12, 15 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg JJonahJackalope (talk) 11:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Overall, seems good. QPQ is satisfied. Hook is cited and interesting. Article is new enough and long enough and written in a neutral tone. No pictures are used. Overall, I'm saying this is good for approval. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 11:18, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Hi Ktin! Unless I'm mistaken, Caroling Dusk had four articles and QPQs have been used for Jarnail Singh (doctor), Wolfgang Clement, Enuga Sreenivasulu Reddy, and S. G. Neginhal. Could you therefore provide another QPQ for this one? (I know these multi-nomination reviews are challenging to keep track of!) Thanks, DanCherek (talk) 00:07, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Profound apologies. I was busy off-wiki and totally missed this comment. Thanks to BlueMoonset for posting a message on my talk page. Thanks DanCherek. For some reason I thought this one was the last of the QPQs that I was eligible for the CD review. Mea Culpa. Let me review a different article and post a note here. Thanks all. Ktin (talk) 14:47, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Sheikh Jarrah property dispute

Sheikh Jarrah solidarity demonstration
Sheikh Jarrah solidarity demonstration
  • ... that the deputy mayor of Jerusalem explained that the Sheikh Jarrah eviction cases are part of a municipal strategy to create “layers of Jews” throughout East Jerusalem? Source: Evictions in Jerusalem Become Focus of Israeli-Palestinian Conflict, May 7, 2021: "But Mr. King, the deputy mayor, said “of course” they are part of a wider strategy of installing “layers of Jews” throughout East Jerusalem. That policy, Mr. King said, “is the way to secure the future of Jerusalem as a Jewish capital for the Jewish people.” “If we will not be in big numbers and if we will not be at the right places in strategic areas in East Jerusalem,” he added, then future peace negotiators “will try to divide Jerusalem and to give part of Jerusalem to our enemy.”"

Created by Enthusiast01 (talk) and Onceinawhile (talk). Nominated by Onceinawhile (talk) at 20:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The framing of King explaining what the eviction cases are doesn't seem quite right, since it implies without sourcing that that's what they really are. How about "...described the Sheikh Jarrah eviction cases as part of...", or something like that?

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed: Green tickY
  • Used in article: Green tickY
  • Clear at 100px: Red XN - Not quite clear enough at 100px, I don't think. Might need to add a different image to the article or run this without one.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The article is of course not perfect (but articles don't need to be perfect for DYK), and the talk page is quite something, as are the talk pages for a lot of articles under ARBPIA. But this nomination is eligible and almost ready to go. With that said, I've flagged two minor issues with the nom above. Once they're fixed, please use {{subst:DYK?again}} to request another reviewer to double-check. ezlevtlk/ctrbs 23:33, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Ezlev: thanks for this. I am fine with your proposed amendment to the hook. Many thanks.

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Onceinawhile (talk) 07:46, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

  • This article is tagged for neutrality and there is an ongoing RFC in that regard. In my view, this should not proceed until it is resolved.Selfstudier (talk) 09:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Les Oréades

5x expanded by JeBonSer (talk). Self-nominated at 15:17, 17 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment Badly needs a prose clean-up, & some calming down. The painting is not meaningfully "Neoclassical". Johnbod (talk) 13:16, 21 May 2021 (UTC)


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - n - see below
  • Interesting: Red XN - n - see below
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I am concerned about the "WilliamBouguereau.org" reference (currently ref 2). The site is described as a "personal website", not affiliated with a reputable organization or museum, an author is not given, and the site seems to be a store for buying prints of the painter's work. Therefore, I do not think it is a reliable source. Reliable sources can be found at WP:LIBRARY, Google Books and Google Scholar; I suggest that the author looks in those databases, expands the article, and suggests some new hooks. If this is completed relatively quickly I will be happy to re-review the article. Let me know if you have any questions. Z1720 (talk) 01:23, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 16[edit]

Flightless (Record Label)

5x expanded by GC2021 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:14, 26 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Sorry, GC2021, but this isn't eligible for DYK. It needs to have been 5x expanded in the previous seven days before nominating. Beyond that, we can't use Discogs or the company website as a source for these claims. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:49, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Reopening after far-too-quick rejection. The nomination, by an editor new to DYK, was made on an expansion that began on May 16, when the article was 2022 prose characters, and the article is currently 9426 prose characters, only 684 prose characters short of 5x. We typically allow an IAR exception for new nominators if they're a little late (only three days in this case), and we typically allow any nominator a chance to make up the difference if they come up a little short in the expansion department, since many don't know how to count prose characters. What is more serious is that the article will need to be edited to deal with getting better sourcing and encyclopedic tone—both these issues will need to be addressed before the nomination can proceed, and the resulting article will need to be at least 10110 prose characters. Pinging Rhododendrites (given how close this was to a 5x expansion, the "X" was probably not appropriate) and Desertarun (seven days is standard to allow for issues like this to be noted before rejecting a nomination). BlueMoonset (talk) 04:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg The refs are social media, primary, wp:inherit and include Adverts! It would need tnt to be compliant for dyk. Desertarun (talk) 07:45, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
  • That's the first I've heard of any IAR leniency for newbies at DYK (for allowing them to fix things, sure, but not when it comes to the deadline). In fact there have been multiple new users I was working with who nominated a day or two late and had it rejected (and in those cases, sourcing, the article, etc. weren't a problem). If allowances are made routinely IMO that's not IAR but something that should be documented so we can actually tell me users what to expect. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 13:27, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
Usually we do allow leniency for first-time nominators provided the other requirements are met or if any issues are easily surmountable. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:19, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
It'd be great to get that documented somewhere. Like I said, I've worked with newbies who were rejected, and it'd be good to be able to point to what's actually going to happen before going through the process of creation the nomination. That aside, I've left a message for the nominator following up on some of the issues. The deadline certainly isn't the only issue -- it's a good faith/probably-not-COI article, but extensive use of the official site (and collaborators' official sites) makes it pretty promotional. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 01:49, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
It's a relatively common occurrence, and even with veterans we usually accept a one-or-two-day delay if it's for good reason. Usually outright rejection happens when the lateness is too long (anything more than a week). It's not really a guideline, but more of a common application of IAR. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:10, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg A full review of the article is still needed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
    @Narutolovehinata5: what is needed? It's not new enough (but we can make an exception); it's long enough; the hook isn't properly sourced, and there are major policy/guideline problems with the article. Additional details at User talk:GC2021, but they haven't edited since May 28. Also left a message for the professor, just to suggest they talk about independent sourcing next time around. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 04:38, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Desertarun didn't check all the requirements, which is why I was asking for a more complete review. While the nomination date can probably be excused per IAR, that doesn't touch upon the rest of the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:32, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
If the nominator doesn't return, would someone else be willing to adopt this nomination in their place? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:06, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Halston (film)

Created by Isaidnoway (talk). Self-nominated at 09:44, 17 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Without doing a full review, I can tell you that this needs a different hook proposal. The article is about a film, not about Halston the person. You have to say something about the film. Kingsif (talk) 00:23, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
    • The article is a film about Halston the person, and he talks about it in the film (archival footage). How do you create a different hook proposal? Do I need to start the nomination over again? Otherwise, my thoughts about a different hook would be ... that ALT1: ... that in the documentary film Halston, the American fashion designer tells the story about how First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy's iconic pillbox hat that she wore to her husband's presidential inauguration in 1961, ended up with a dent in the top of it? Isaidnoway (talk) 09:48, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
      You simply write something preceded by ALT2 below. Making people expect a biography and than take them to a film is regarded as Easter egg, - better make clear in the wording that it's about a film about Halston. - I may help and/or review, but not right now, - I trust that you can do a hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:30, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
      ALT2: ... that Halston is a documentary film about the American fashion designer who designed the iconic pillbox hat that Jacqueline Kennedy wore to her husband's presidential inauguration? - I don't think she was First Lady then already, as he wasn't President yet. We could add a link to the designer if you wish. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:26, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Documentary or not, Alt1 is PLOT. Alt2 boils down to nothing more than "Halston is a documentary about Halston" which... duh? If the point is supposed to be he designed the pillbox (rather than the doc being about him) then it's still a hook about him, not the movie, and if it's about Jackie wearing that hat then it's completely unrelated. How about these?
  • ALT3: ... that the director of documentary film Halston didn't want to tell the story of its subject until he learned there was more to him than just extravagant partying? Source: [7]
  • ALT4: ... that the niece of designer Halston had over 200 tapes of archival footage of him, thought to be lost, which were used in producing the documentary film Halston? Source: ditto
  • ALT5: ... that in planning the documentary film Halston, its writer-director created a database of Halston's life events in order to rate their importance for inclusion? Source: ditto
  • ALT6: ... that documentary film Halston is framed as a film noir? Source: [8]
Or if you really want to talk about the hat, you have to relate it to the movie's production;
And, of course, it would be greatly appreciated if that detail was moved out of the footnote and into prose. Kingsif (talk) 22:22, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
No comments on your hook, and thanks for the offer, but - in defense of my rewriting what was proposed (my hook would again be different from all of these, but I try to help the nominator): the J. Kennedy fact is not plot in the sense we want to avoid as something fictional, but may be the common ground to connect to Halston. - Now, if he is famous and I'm the only one whom the name alone told zero, forget this ;) - Halston - "its subject" - could have been a place, a ship, ... - a hook should not rely on people already knowing what it is. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
No, I got you. So, Halston is a famous fashion designer, very famous for the pillbox hat incident, but we can't assume anyone would know him. Nobody needs to know him to understand a hook about a movie. Because it shouldn't be about him. He's not the bold article.
And I think this is an important thing that is ruled out by PLOT, so let me explain. My point was, your entire hook is a very long-winded way of describing him, not the movie - and whether he's "the American fashion designer" or "the American fashion designer who designed the iconic pillbox hat" or "the American fashion designer who designed the iconic pillbox hat that Jacqueline Kennedy wore" or "the American fashion designer who designed the iconic pillbox hat that Jacqueline Kennedy wore to her husband's presidential inauguration", it is just an ever-more wordy way of replacing his name. He could be a complete unknown and it would be the same point - say it was a fictional film with a brand new character nobody knows, we wouldn't say "X movie is about Y character", even if you spun it into "X movie is about the person who did Y with Z who did A". Either it's saying "film is about main character" in a far too convoluted way, or it is summarizing the PLOT (i.e. it's what the character does in the work - fiction or not, you will know the hook fact by merely watching the work, thus it doesn't have anything "real life" i.e. outside of the film content. The hat is in the movie, it is PLOT).
Basically, we don't assume people know who the film is about, but it's not hooky to simply tell them who that is, no matter how many details of that person you give. Like, would you say "Mission Impossible is about an American spy who famously hangs from a rappel wire in an impossible mission he survived"? No. Nor would you say, if you want to challenge how I see PLOT applying, "that Mission Impossible stars the American actor known for his short stature, wonky smile, and Scientology". Why use such lengthy descriptors and avoid a name, why describe a person instead of say anything about the boldlinked movie? We can write plenty of interesting hooks about movies without ever needing to identify the subject, and simply "fashion designer" is an adequate descriptor of Halston, if he is mentioned, for those that don't know. Kingsif (talk) 09:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
You're right, Halston could be about anything, and while your point seems to be that we should just tell people what that is (and in a way that establishes the notability as if it was the opening sentence of his article), my point is that it doesn't matter at all whether people know what a movie is about or not. It's hooky to say "that Jaws deliberately avoided showing a shark, both to create suspense and because the production did not have a waterproof model", and not "Jaws is about three men on a small boat who are scared by a shark". A documentary example for perhaps better comparison: hooky is "that one of the interviewees describing violence towards trans women in Paris is Burning was killed in an incidence of this during production", and not "Paris is Burning is about the American drag queens and trans women from the New York ball scene". Kingsif (talk) 10:06, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
  • And since I've added so much, I can do a review not considering my proposed hooks. The good: article new and long enough, written well enough, interesting and sourced. Second nom so no QPQ needed. Hooks are sourced inline (well, in footnote) and check out...
  • Symbol possible vote.svg And the bad: but the article sections are all out of order and "Production notes" is non-standard ("Production", it should be). This should be easily solvable. Hooks ALT0 through ALT2 are a mix of Easter egg and PLOT violations, with some plain "so what?" I am concerned with potential copyvio and certain at least close paraphrasing shown here from throughout the first two paragraphs of the "Production notes", the close para shown here, and I'll note that the article uses quotations so lengthy that they are +20% of their original sources, a similar concern. I'd like to ask @Isaidnoway: about the close paraphrasing, and someone else can look at the hooks. Kingsif (talk) 11:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
  • There is absolutely no copyvio. The short phrases in the production section are limited, minimal and clearly attributed to Frédéric Tcheng, the director of the film. The Vogue passages are direct quotes supported by a reliable souce. Per - WP:PARAPHRASE - Limited close paraphrasing is appropriate within reason, as is quoting, so long as the material is clearly attributed in the text. Limited close paraphrasing is also appropriate if there are only a limited number of ways to say the same thing. There are no easter eggs in any of my hooks, (a message, image, or feature hidden in a video game, film, or other, usually electronic, medium). My preferred hooks are the original one and ALT 2. If those are not acceptable, I'm fine with that. If another hook is developed and used, I'm fine with that. If the DYK is declined, I'm fine with that as well. This was my first attempt at a self-nomination, and I definitely learned something for any potential future noms. Isaidnoway (talk) 14:01, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
  • You're wrong on both accounts, and I'll assume it's misunderstandings: linking to the film when you're referring to the person is an Easter egg, where DYK is the medium, and there are clear instances of whole fragments or sentences that are prose from the sources - not quotations - either directly lifted or only slightly rearranged. That needs fixing: above, I linked comparisons of source and article text, and the worst is even highlighted, so you can't credibly deny it. Hooks about works aren't always easy to write, but not mentioning the film when the article is the film isn't going to pass. I'm trying to give extensive feedback to be helpful to someone new to DYK, rather than just say "no", so assuming your last sentence isn't spitefully sarcastic, you're welcome. Kingsif (talk) 14:34, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
  • No, there is not any misunderstandings, just disagreement. I linked to the most common definition of an easter egg in relation to the media (which I assumed we were talking about, and not the Easter Bunny) and most frequently seen in films, like 16 of the best movie Easter eggs, surely you recognize that terms you've hijacked for use in the DYK medium, don't necessarily reflect the mainstream view. I just assumed you all were using the common definition incorrectly. My bad, now I know. And I also linked you to the relevant policy WP:PARAPHRASE. And the analysis of the text vs source, shows 69 out of 501 words in that particular section, and when you subtract commonly used words that can't be avoided like "a" "to" "the" "that", the number is even less. So it is limited, fair use and attributed to the person who said it. I will add to that section the publication that interviewed Frédéric Tcheng and the date of the source as well. Thanks for your feedback. Isaidnoway (talk) 16:39, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Let's see if you'll cooperate with someone else, needed to review alt hooks anyway. Remember, highlighting only shows up words that are used in long sequences unchanged, which is copyvio - close paraphrasing you actually have to read and I assure you is much more than 11% of the source (69/501 is still high anyway) - and this also means that all those auxiliary words should be counted because their placement contributes to direct copying. Kingsif (talk) 13:44, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg I conducted a copyedit of the article, which I think removed most of the paraphrasing concerns. Please review the changes to ensure I didn't change the meaning of sentences. I am concerned that the critical reception section is basically a series of quotes from reviews and MOS:QUOTE says Wikipedia should not overuse quotes. I'd recommend that editors try to paraphrase some of the reviews, although I will not deny approval for this hook because of this.

I added a "cn" tag and a "who" tag to the article that should be resolved before approval. As for the hooks, all of them are cited by their respective sources, but ALT 5 isn't exactly in the article, so I crossed it out. My preference is ALT 6, as it is short, hooky, talks about the documentary and is the most intersting to me. I also like ALT 7 if slightly reworded. Please ping me when the cn tag and who tag are addressed so I can re-review the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:30, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
Earlier today, Isaidnoway reverted the DYK notice on their talk page, with the edit summary, "Not interested". Does this mean Isaidnoway wants to withdraw this nomination? Z1720 (talk) 13:23, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

yes Isaidnoway (talk) 15:17, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 17[edit]

Double Tenth Agreement

5x expanded by Apot8511 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:55, 25 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article has been expanded enough and I assume good faith on the references that I can't access. The sentence in the lead - "The agreement was signed at what is now the Red Rock Village Museum in Chongqing." - should be referenced and it would probably be best for it to also be in the body of the article. The first paragraph in the China in 1945 section needs citations. "The battles resulted in a victory for Mao and the CCP which skewed the negotiations to Mao's favour." under the Events section needs a citation at the end, but I do see that the information is in the citation in the next paragraph so it should be easy to just repeat it up above. The last two issues are that the 5th reference and the 36th reference have formatting errors. SL93 (talk) 18:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Lajia

  • ... that Lajia was the place where the world's oldest noodles were found?
  • Comment: The source of the hook fact can be found in reference 6.

5x expanded by Jehbe3412 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:58, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg. I cannot establish that this article has been expanded 5x between the 7 May and the 17 May. Even if I take the most generous bracket of time (i.e. not counting the subsequent downsizing by Keith D), I am supposed to compare the version of 02:06, 26 April 2021‎ with the version of 13:45, 17 May 2021‎. For the first version, DYKCheck gives me 1914 characters and 328 words. For the second version, DYKCheck gives me 5882 characters and 982 words. JBchrch talk 20:07, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg There was one edit which was a 2 x expansion. The nom has only ever made 3 edits and no amount of leeway could get this close. Desertarun (talk) 11:19, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you for letting me know, I will be expanding the Lajia article further. Jehbe3412 (talk) 21:15, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg As of today, DYKcheck is showing a 5x expansion starting on May 17, seven days prior to the nomination; the nominator made the additions within 48 hours of the above post. Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

English Building, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign

  • ... that according to campus legend, the English Building at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign is haunted by the ghost of a female student who drowned in the building's pool? Students using the building have reported mysterious phenomena and the faint voice of a woman sounding from nowhere." Source:[10]

Created by Chevsapher (talk). Nominated by JustinMal1 (talk) at 13:46, 17 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article new and long enough, generally well written but poorly sourced. I would go so far as to say most of the article is unsourced or the sources aren't clear. I also highly recommend moving the article to English Building, University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. Just about every university will have an "English building", and many of them will be officially called that, let alone all the buildings named after people called English, or representing England at various events. It needs the disambiguation unless you think it's undoubtedly the main thing in existence referred to as "English building" (the answer is no, it isn't). What sources are used appear to be almost entirely primary sources, not indicating that it has outside notability. I am also concerned that Chevsapher has undisclosed COI (editing behavior)? Similarly, I would like more information on the licenses for the images in the article. But you and JustinMal1 still have a few more days to work on the article before it would even be too late to nominate for DYK, and I'd offer a grace period for improvements after that date (24th) too. Kingsif (talk) 17:27, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the helpful feedback. To address your points:
  • ~95% of the article is sourced, and the few statements that are not sourced are common general knowledge. If I need to change the citation style, I am happy to do so.
  • I like the suggestion about creating disambiguation page, and I saw that JustinMal1 just moved the article to the suggested namespace.
  • Concerning the potential COI, I am a student at the university, but I am not affiliated with the units that occupy the building. If this is still qualifiable as a COI, I will stop editing University of Illinois articles.
  • The images' origins and licenses are explained on their Wikimedia pages. The photos I personally uploaded are photos I took myself.
  • I tried to avoid primary sources, but I will agree that many of the secondary sources are internal to the university. To add more external sources, I would need to dig more into two main reasons why the building is externally relevant, which are (1) it was designed by the pre-eminent architectural firm of the Beaux-Arts era, and (2) it was the home of one of the most influential early home economics departments in the U.S., whose research helped drive the early-20th-century revolution in domestic efficiency. I would love to flesh out this article more fully, but unfortunately, my time is limited. I cannot yet commit to spending a few full days with a stack of books.
Chevsapher (talk) 17:51, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 18[edit]

Gourd mouth organ

Art from Tang dynasty showing a musician playing the mouth organ (2nd left)
Art from Tang dynasty showing a musician playing the mouth organ (2nd left)
  • ... that the Gourd mouth organ (pictured) was invented 3000 years ago? Source: Sachs, C. (2012). The history of musical instruments. Courier Corporation. ISBN 0486171515
    • ALT1:... that the Gourd mouth organ (pictured) is believed to be invented by Chinese goddess Nüwa?
    • ALT2:... that the tallest Gourd mouth organ (pictured) can go up to about 12 feet? Source: Chapman, A. (2005). Breath and bamboo: Diasporic Lao identity and the Lao mouth-organ. Journal of Intercultural Studies, 26(1-2), 5-20.
    • ALT3: ... that the Gourd mouth organ (pictured) was invented in the third millennium B.C. and the tallest can go up to about twelve feet? Source: Sachs, C. (2012). The history of musical instruments. Courier Corporation. ISBN 0486171515. p 184.; Chapman, A. (2005). Breath and bamboo: Diasporic Lao identity and the Lao mouth-organ. Journal of Intercultural Studies, 26(1-2), 5-20.

5x expanded by Ryssian (talk). Self-nominated at 02:11, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg, ALT & ALT2. (ALT1, has no source, and doesn't make clear who holds that belief). New enough (expanded), Long enough, Within policy (neutral, sourced, copyright free, interesting hook, 1st nomination for QPQ, and image is fine. perhaps ALTs could be combined. Bogger (talk) 10:23, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you very much for your feedback! Ryssian (talk) 22:31, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Note: I've restored the original hooks, which should be left in place, and labeled the new hook ALT3. Desertarun, does ALT3 work? I'm concerned about the "third millennium B.C." mention, since the article says "believed to be" and then goes on to note that the earliest recorded mention is 1100 B.C. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I've checked the hook refs and I'm finding it tricky. Sachs says "THE MOUTH ORGAN (Chinese shêng, Japanese shô) was originally made with a gourd. Today the gourd is replaced by a piece of wood cut in the same" and later "In China the mouth organ is said to have been invented by Emperor Nyu-kwa in the third millennium B.C. as an imitation of the bird Phoenix" and "In the most highly developed form of the raft-shaped mouth organ, in Middle and South Laos, the two rafts, sometimes as tall as twelve feet, are laid on top of each other and this double raft pierces through an elongated, wooden windchest". Sachs is discussing mouth organs not specifically gourd mouth organs, making me wonder if these refs are applicable or not. I don't know? Desertarun (talk) 19:07, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 20[edit]

Enamorado Por Primera Vez, List of Billboard Latin Pop Airplay number ones of 1997

  • Reviewed: pending
  • Comment: Enamorado Por Primera Vez achieved GA status and List of Billboard Latin Pop Airplay number ones of 1997 was expanded 5 fivefold

Created/expanded by Magiciandude (talk). Self-nominated at 22:00, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Review by Tbhotch

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Below
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg @Magiciandude: *insert confused screams*. The hook says that Enamorado charted for "11 weeks"; the article lists 10 weeks, and the source says 12 weeks. Also, in May 24, you sourced May 3. I don't see any major problem with "Enamorado" itself. (CC) Tbhotch 23:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 21[edit]

Usra Hendra Harahap

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 07:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC).

Jimmy Carter 1976 presidential campaign

A campaign button from Carter's 1976 presidential campaign.
A campaign button from Carter's 1976 presidential campaign.

Created by Kavyansh.Singh (talk). Self-nominated at 17:44, 21 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Kavyansh.Singh: The main hook is incorrect. I remember that campaign well. They called him "Jimmy who?" because most people had never heard of him outside of the US State of Georgia. Even Carter joked about himself as "Jimmy who?" He was popular enough to win the nomination for the Democratic candidate, and popular enough to win the election. His popularity as President took some hits because of national issues he had to deal with. But it was never an issue in the 1976 Presidential campaign. — Maile (talk) 18:05, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @Maile66: Hi, thanks for your comments. By saying unpopularity, I ment the same that he was not popular or less known throughout the nation except Georgia. If you think the hook needs rephrasing, kindly suggest as it is almost 200 characters. Also, alt 1 can be considered. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:23, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @Kavyansh.Singh: I'll leave the rephrasing to somebody else. But now I understand your reasoning. Thanks for replying. — Maile (talk) 18:31, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Just to be clear, I was not reviewing this, just making a comment on the wording. I leave the review to a different reviewer, who will review the hook wording and everything else. Good luck. — Maile (talk) 10:53, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
 Comment: "lack of name recognition" or "unfamiliarity to voters" might be the phrase you are looking for that first hook, not "unpopularity". "Unpopularity" would be misunderstood to mean that he had low-approval. SecretName101 (talk) 15:46, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Hi @SecretName101: Thanks for your comments, I have made the changes, but that makes the hook slightly over 200 characters. What else can be changed to make it under the limit of characters. Also, I have made some changes in Alt 1, which makes it better. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 15:59, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
I'd rephrase ALT2 as "mocked for his unfamiliarity". The missing "his" makes it grammatically incorrect. SecretName101 (talk) 17:25, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
@SecretName101:  Done But the issue is that the image doesn't relate with the hook of Alt 1. I'd still prefer cutting short main hook by removing "Jimmy who?" part. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:34, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
Collapsing resolved concerns about button image's public domain status. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 04:04, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Why is the button image free? It's a 1976 image, so it didn't need copyright to be registered, and it's before Carter was president, so not a US Federal govt image ... ? --GRuban (talk) 16:58, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
GRuban Just to be clear, I did not upload the original image, just cropped a image already available on commons (File:Jimmy Carter Library and Museum 16.JPG). It was uploaded almost 11 years ago by Piotrus which is licensed as user's own work (under Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 Unported license) It states "Jimmy Carter Library and Museum" in description, so I guess that the image has been photographed by the user from Carter Library. The Carter Library states "Much of the audiovisual materials, including all White House-produced photographs, motion picture films, and audiotapes, are in the public domain. Other material, such as donated items and White House Communications Agency news videotapes, are subject to copyright law." (Source) It just needs to be clarified by an commons admin that photographs clicked by users from Presidential Libraries are in Public domain or not? Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 17:18, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Agree. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Campaign_buttons_from_the_United_States_presidential_election,_1976 That's why those Commons admins make the big bucks... --GRuban (talk) 18:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
 Done: The image is fine, as User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) pointed out, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Template:PD-US-no_notice covers it, conveniently extends to 1977! --GRuban (talk) 00:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
GRuban, Glad this is resolved, and glad my pic is useful here :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:57, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 22[edit]

Ludwig Wüllner

Ludwig Wüllner c. 1910
Ludwig Wüllner c. 1910

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:24, 29 May 2021 (UTC).

  • New enough (just barely), long enough. QPQ done. While Earwig picks up this as almost identical to the German article, I find it more likely that they were the ones stealing. Slight neutrality issues ("impressive", "fascinating" shouldn't be stated in Wikipedia's voice). The "Roles" section is entirely unsourced. Caption for the grave picture should be translated, and I don't quite see the point of the ad. Thesis title is mixed German/English and not in the source cited. (Untranslating the English part probably fixes that, see the thesis). I find it fascinating that he had a PhD and an abortive academic career before becoming a singer. But your hook works (may want to add "pictured"), and is within the rules. Symbol question.svg as some points about the article should be improved (neutrality, unreferenced section). —Kusma (talk) 23:22, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
    Thank you for looking into this, a tough one, long, translated from German not by me! - I avoided the two words. I'd just drop the roles list, if it wasn't to not leave the images without something on the left. No idea yet where to look for a ref. The ad tells me that this person will have attracted listeners by just his name, but sure, I know that only from being able to read German. Caption translated. - We could drop the roles and those two pics and be done, right? On the other hand, that's an impressive list. I'll try, help welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    ALT0a: ... that Ludwig Wüllner (pictured) sang in the U.S. premiere of Mahler's Kindertotenlieder in 1910, conducted by the composer? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:43, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    Thank you, this is better. Without any sourcing, I am not a fan of the Roles section: we know nothing of the context (they could all have been private viewings for the Duke of Meiningen, or they could be on his international tours). In the classic style of the German Wikipedia, we are given a list with dozens of places where sources might be, but no indication of what the sources of the article truly are. —Kusma (talk) 10:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    Agree. Let me see if I can find something but that will be later today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    Take your time. —Kusma (talk) 15:34, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    There are quite some sources in English, including Grove Music Online (available through TWL I think, I got it through my library at work) and various old music journals. Did you know that he was referred to as the singer without a voice? —Kusma (talk) 23:18, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
    Great finds, thank you! Friederike Mayröcker died, new article to be written should be linked from the Main page tomorrow, PR comments, - patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne

Title page of the 1667 collection containing the song
Title page of the 1667 collection containing the song
  • Reviewed: Portrait of a Woman with Mask
  • Comment: The sentence from the title page of the collection in which it is printed would be too long for DYK. Here for illustration purposes, - I guess it won't be taken anyway. "getting up" (or "rising"?) is meant in a broad sense: in the morning, from distress, perhaps even even from the dead. Help with wording welcome.

Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 09:26, 25 May 2021 (UTC).

  • New enough, promoted to GA on May 22. Long enough, at over 10,000 characters. Assuming sources were checked at GAN. Neutral, no plagiarism. Hook cited, interesting. No copyvios with image, used in article. QPD done. Is there a reason there's no second hook? If so, and since the one hook that's here is fine, I'll pass this to DYK if you make a good case for suggesting only one hook.
  • Here's my suggestion for your hook: ... that in the song [or hymn] "Die güldne Sonne voll Freud und Wonne", the poet found a new metre, and the composer a new melody, to reflect the difficulty in getting up in the morning? It's under 200 characters and although it doesn't exactly follow the wording in the article, I think a slight rewording is fine for DYK. It also makes it more relatable; I mean, which of us has experienced not wanting to get up in the morning? Me, just this morning! ;) Symbol question.svg Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 17:08, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Portrait of a Woman with Mask

Created by JeBonSer (talk). Self-nominated at 23:31, 23 May 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg JeBonSer, that's an interesting painting, on few but good sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed, and a DYK without it would miss the point. I find some things unusual in the article. I reduced overlinking myself, but please help me:
  1. The lead should be a summary! Not details about dimensions. Please have everything from the lead also in the body, with the ref in the body, and have only important facts in the lead.
  2. The link to the current city of Venice is not helpful, - what we need is a link to the Venetian art of a former period, and best with a year or two. At present, what the hook claims is not even in the article: that her work looks like something earlier. Not every reader will be versed in art history enough to know without being told.
  3. I believe that you could use the pdf for a reference.
  4. I don't read Italian besides being able to order from a menu, so can't tell if the English ref is just a translation of the Italian, in which case we'd need only one.
The hook has a bit of the same problem (as 2. above): as the painter is not named, an unprepared reader will not even see two periods in the pastel, at a glance at least. Best advice I can give: try an easier hook. The picture alone will attract, - it doesn't have to be super fancy. In article and hook, I'd like to see sooner that the creator was a woman, but that may be just me. I'd prefer her name in the hook rather than in the already long image caption. I will not approve a hook that says "us", - "we" and "us" don't belong in Wikipedia (unless in quotes). I removed a comma in the hook that broke the sentence. Please word a new hook below. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:04, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Comment Gerda, the lead is EXACTLY the right place to put dimensions! Venetian painting could be linked, to the appropriate section. I agree the hook is odd. As usual with this nominator, the terrible English should be the first thing to mention " it is now currently displayed..." and so on. User:JeBonSer, "now" and "currently" mean the same thing. Johnbod (talk) 16:55, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
Learning: For a piece of music, I wouldn't give duration and tempo markings in the lead, but the visual arts seem to be different. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that the Portrait of a Woman with Mask (pictured) by Rosalba Carriera has no exact date when it was being painted, but through a label at the back of the portrait this gives help to its keepers to trace its origins? Source: "Although the history of this pastel prior to its appearance on the antique market is unknown, its provenance from the Galleria Lorenzelli in Bergamo is documented by a label on the back of the work and by an estimate drawn up in Italian lire by Sotheby’s at an unspecified date, but presumably around 1999 since part of Intesa Leasing’s assets were sold to Iniziative Patrimoniali S.p.A. in the same year." Fondazione Cariplo Artgate
@Gerda Arendt: Resolved. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 09:14, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for offering a new hook, but I confess I find it wordy. Perhaps I should leave reviewing to a native speaker. "date when it was being painted" is long for nothing, "gives help" could be simpler, and why mention "keepers" at all? Actually, the same is true for the article, just look at "The extraordinary skill of Carriera in arts can be easily seen in the portrait including Venetian painter's influence of the 18th-century Venetian style of paintings that can be easily recognised on this portrait." - duplications and saying something such as "extraordinary skill" as if a fact. I'm afraid if the article is trimmed to a concise style - in this case drop repetition of "Venetian", and use less flowery language, it might be too short. Do you want to continue with me, or rather ask for a different reviewer". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:45, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
It's up to you Gerda Arendt. JeBonSer (talk | sign) 11:27, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Let's do it like this: you try to find someone less persistent, and if you can't find one, ping me, but not without substantial changes to the article prose, and a trimmed hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
IMO the article is very poorly written (see my recent basic copyedits, which oly skim the surface), and is not ready for main page. Needs a skilled readthrough for clarity, and then we can consider DYK. Ceoil (talk) 00:52, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Ok, read through again. The article is deeply confused on a number of counts, and rather than appear on main page should probably be nuked and started again. Gerda, I'm disappointed you are encouraging such a weak promotion. Ceoil (talk) 01:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Read again, please, I refused to approve it in the state it is in. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Ok, see that now, and have stuck, my bad. Ceoil (talk) 20:44, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. JeBonSer, may I tell you that Johnbod and Ceoil (among others) are my authorities when it comes to art, and I hope you will listen to them? - Ceoil, do you think you could teach some things? I wouldn't bother you if this was the only one, but I see a flood of pretty portraits, and they get pictured, and other art is supposed to go without. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:52, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
Gerda, I think command of English is the major stumbling block here; many of the claims are so garbled that checking them against the sources is futile, unless reviewers committed to fully rewriting the article, basically from scratch. In fact, as this has obviously taken up a lot of your time, and I see there were other similar noms, would even to as far as suggesting a Wikipedia:Competence is required ban from DYK. Ceoil (talk) 21:00, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that the Portrait of a Woman with Mask (pictured) by Rosalba Carriera has no exact date when it was being painted, but through a label at the back of the portrait this gives help to trace its origins? Source: "Although the history of this pastel prior to its appearance on the antique market is unknown, its provenance from the Galleria Lorenzelli in Bergamo is documented by a label on the back of the work and by an estimate drawn up in Italian lire by Sotheby’s at an unspecified date, but presumably around 1999 since part of Intesa Leasing’s assets were sold to Iniziative Patrimoniali S.p.A. in the same year." Fondazione Cariplo Artgate JeBonSer (talk | sign) 08:12, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg The article, after being edited, is currently at 1153 prose characters, too short for DYK. The prose is not up to DYK quality, the new hook is not interesting, and I find it extremely telling that two of the article's three sources attribute this painting not to Rosalba Carriera but to Charles-Antoine Coypel (who is French), and the third, a Google page, references an external link (artgate-cariplo.it) that says it's Coypel rather than Carriera. I see no point in continuing this nomination any further given so many problems with the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:07, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Lakshmeshwara Jain temples

Shanka Basadi
Shanka Basadi

Created/expanded by Pratyk321 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:54, 22 May 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 23[edit]

Mahmut Bozteke

  • ... that Mahmut Bozteke, whose arms were crippled in an accident, started performing Para Taekwondo after his physiotherapist's advise, who discovered that "he can use his legs very well instead"? Source: "Mahmut Bozteke, azmi sayesinde para-tekvandoda ...", "... kollarını çalışır vaziyetteki traktörün kuyruk miline kaptırdı. Kopan kolları ameliyatla dikilen ancak bu uzuvlarını dilediği gibi kullanamadığı için ...", (in Turkish) [12], "... fizyoterapistin "Ayaklarını iyi kullanıyorsun, bence iyi tekvando yaparsın" tavsiyesiyle ,..." (in Turkish) [13]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 12:55, 29 May 2021 (UTC).

  • The word "crippled" is widely deprecated and even considered offensive, please rephrase it with neutral terminology. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:18, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
  • @Dodger67: Thank you for your warning. Is "disabled" acceptable instead of "crippled"? CeeGee 05:52, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
  • CeeGee, the article says his arms were amputated in an accident, I think it's better to be more specific. However, the article has several language issues, probably due to an inadequate translation of the sources. Imho it needs quite a bit of cleanup work before it's ready for this DYK. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:50, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Dodger67: Thank you for your efforts. From a YouTube video, I can see that he has arms but somehow in damaged condition. The source says that tissue taken off his legs were implemented in his arms. So, he is not an amputee. Anyway, I will apply to the Guild of Copy Editors for the language issues. CeeGee 12:27, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Obed Dickinson

Obed Dickinson with his wife and children.
Obed Dickinson with his wife and children.
  • ... that American abolitionists didn't necessarily believe in racial equality – Obed Dickinson (pictured), an abolitionist pastor in Oregon in the mid-1800s, advocated for racial equality and ultimately lost his job for it? Source: "The information about abolitionists and equality is found in the first paragraph in the Abolitionist section. Information about Obed Dickinson resigning from his job is found in the last paragraph in the Abolitionist section"
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: This is Bridges2Information's first nomination.

Moved to mainspace by Bridges2Information (talk). Nominated by Bridges2Information (talk) at 18:18, 26 May 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - "Supported in the article" isn't quite enough here. Please cite specific sources that are used in the article and explicitly support the hook.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The hook is over 200 characters. It also seems to generalize ("American abolitionists didn't necessarily believe in racial equality") from the actual fact (Obed Dickinson was fired), and although I didn't read all the sources, it doesn't seem completely clear from the article that he was fired because other abolitionists disagreed with him.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg This could run, but it needs some work first. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 04:49, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Edward Rath III

Created by KidAd (talk). Self-nominated at 18:29, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Article not long enuf (1236 chars according to DYKCheck). Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:22, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
  • Note, KidAd, that the minimum required is 1500 prose characters. (See WP:DYKCHECK for instructions on installing this useful tool for determining prose size.) MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 18:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
  • KidAd, it's been about 12 days since the article was edited. It's still 1236 characters; can you expand the article by another 264 prose characters? If it's not done within a few days, this nomination will have to be failed. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 23:02, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg The article hasn't been edited since May 25. Sorry, KidAd, but it doesn't meet the minimum size requirement. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 17:36, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Mandarax, no worries. KidAdSPEAK 17:39, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Marie Antoinette with a Rose

  • ... that the previous portrait that illustrates Marie Antoinette wearing a muslin dress before Marie Antoinette with a Rose (pictured) was painted, is the subject's favourite dress? Source: "Vigée-Le Brun presented notably a new portrait of the Queen wearing the “gaulle” or “blouse dress”. Adapted to Parisian fashion by the dressmaker Rose Bertin, this muslin dress was the Queen’s favourite one during her stays at the Petit Trianon, away from the court. The visitors of the Salon were shocked by this portrait: in their view the Queen was not dressed as befitted her rank. So the painting was quickly withdrawn. Vigée-Le Brun then quickly painted a second portrait to be exhibited before the end of the Salon." Google Arts & Culture

Created by JeBonSer (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg Length (just barely) and reference verified ... however:
  • How sure are we that Google Arts & Culture is an RS? Mightn't we be better with the original text from Versailles if it's available, or from a reputable art site or book?
  • I think the body text should be rewritten a little more so it doesn't use so much of the same phrasing as the Google page. It passed a copyvio check, but still ...
  • And frankly, this hook would be better off for an article about that previous painting. Or rewritten to be more about this one. As it is it's like we had an article about a building and a hook about the one next door to it.
Daniel Case (talk) 23:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 24[edit]

Jane Douglass White, Song of the Women's Army Corps

  • Reviewed: Eastern Desert, Paul Drago, Romani people in Poland
  • Comment: I am sorry for the long sourcing statement. With my newspapers.com account temporarily disabled, I'm unable to find a single source which says this in one fell swoop. This is not original research, however. The Kerbey source is clear about everything, but it's an unpublished dissertation. My googlebooks sources have gone dark on me from too many views. Sourcing now more compact.
  • Created by BusterD (talk). Self-nominated at 18:02, 29 May 2021 (UTC).

New Testament Church (Hong Kong)

5x expanded by Wyiu06 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg It would probably be good for another set of eyes on this. I've done several DYK reviews, but this is the first one that I don't think meets the newness requirements. This was submitted under May 24 expansions. Going back to May 17, the DYK check shows 3751 characters. 5x this would be 18577. On May 24, the size was 10970 & today (June 11) it is 11760, so it's still well short of 5x. Please let me know if I've not done this correctly. QuakerSquirrel (talk) 20:22, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Wyiu06, it looks to me like you are new to Wikipedia and perhaps doing this for a class (which may have ended at this point). If you are still on Wikipedia, please note that you need to provide more information in a DYK nomination, including a citation to your hook with both the reference information and the quotation supporting the hook. I was going to try and do that myself, but there are a number of references in the article & Mui Yee seems to go by many names. (For example, that name does not appear in the reference provided for the sentence in the first/summary paragraph where she is listed as the founder.) If you need some help, leave a message here or on my talk page. QuakerSquirrel (talk) 20:22, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • QuakerSquirrel, you're absolutely correct about the fact that this is not a fivefold expansion, and that the article would need to be 18577 prose characters rather than the current 11760 (requiring another 6817 prose characters). Wyiu06 did a little over a threefold expansion, which is a good job, but unfortunately that isn't sufficient for this article to run at DYK. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:26, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 25[edit]

Living in the Age of Airplanes

Created by Gerald Waldo Luis (talk). Self-nominated at 09:22, 27 May 2021 (UTC).

  • QPQ needed. Joofjoof (talk) 22:39, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
  • May I suggest asking for a copyedit? It's an impressively long article, but is full of awkward sentences like "He, who wrote the narration with Jessica Grogan,[3] chose to show difficulty of life pre-aviation to make the film relatable." --GRuban (talk) 14:47, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • GRuban, I did a set of copyedits, including regarding the Jessica Grogan bit. What do you think now? GeraldWL 14:29, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Quesabirria

Quesabirria in California
Quesabirria in California
  • ... that quesabirria (pictured) became a "full-fledged phenomenon" in the United States through Instagram posts? [1][2]
    • ALT1:... that foodies will travel great distances and wait in line for hours to eat quesabirria (pictured)? [1]
    • ALT2:... that quesabirria (pictured) is "a cross between a taco and a quesadilla"? [1]
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eye of Horus
  • Comment: I am never savvy at nominating DYK's, but, I realized I have been writing a lot and figured I'd give it a go. I'm totally open minded on the DYK for this one. I can also provide more sourcing, if needed. Any excuse for yummy food to be on the front page of Wikipedia.

Created by Missvain (talk). Self-nominated at 17:25, 25 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg - QPQ done. Hooks are policy compliant, article is new and long enough. However, some stuff needs worked on before this is good to run. Uncited sentence at the end of the history section, not seeing where the facts in ALT1 are in the article unless I totally missed it, and the direct quote for ALT0 needs to have a citation directly following the sentence in the article containing the quote. Interesting article, and I would totally eat this food. Hog Farm Talk 05:46, 28 May 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b c Tsai, Luke (2019-11-21). "How Quesabirria Became the Bay Area's Hottest Taco Trend". Eater SF. Retrieved 25 May 2021.
  2. ^ Kindelsperger, Nick (2020-09-08). "Meet the quesabirria, Chicago's new cheesy, beefy and messy taco obsession". Chicago Tribune. Retrieved 25 May 2021.

Simla Deputation

  • ... that one of the arguments made by the Simla Deputation for increasing Muslim representation in Indian politics was that they had ruled India under the Mughal Empire? Panigrahi, Devendra (19 August 2004). India's Partition: The Story of Imperialism in Retreat. Routledge. ISBN 1-135-76812-9. p. 45.
    • ALT1:... that the Simla Deputation was thought by historians to be engineered by the British? Voigt, Johannes H. (April 1965). "Review of Lord Minto and the Indian Nationalist Movement, 1905 to 1910 by Syed Razi Wasti". The Journal of the Royal Asiatic Society of Great Britain and Ireland. 1 (2): 72–74. p. 73.
  • Reviewed: .sexy
  • Comment: This one's a fun one. I'm pretty inexperienced with the Indian subcontinent. One main comment I have is that the background section isn't very coherent - The pieces are there, but there's nothing really connecting them. Also not sure if the quotes really work well or not. I also think the prose is pretty bad.

Created by Roniius (talk). Self-nominated at 15:39, 25 May 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 26[edit]

Big Time Wrestling (Boston)

Moved to mainspace by 173.162.220.17 (talk). Nominated by 173.162.220.17 (talk) at 19:45, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Battle of Sambisa Forest (2021)

  • ... that Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau's tone indicated that he "was near the end" during a sermon one day before his forces were defeated during the Battle of Sambisa Forest (2021)? Source: "Shekau, for his part, gave a final sermon on the day before his death that has been leaked publicly. He indicated that many of his fighters had been killed and the group was facing calamities. Shekau said he would never be loyal to anybody. His tone also suggested he knew was near the end. However, the dramatic fashion in which he reportedly ended his life evidently took ISWAP by surprise and, for the first time in several years, Nigeria will enter a post-Shekau era." (Killing of Boko Haram Leader Abubakar Shekau Boosts Islamic State in Nigeria, p. 2)

Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 11:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC).

2015 Connecticut State Senate District 23rd special election

  • Reviewed: TBA

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:50, 26 May 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 27[edit]

John Aitken (biologist)

  • ... that John Aitken is a British reproductive biologist, but moved to Australia since 1997, and he published over 450 research in animal and human reproductive studies? Source:
    • ALT1:... that John Aitken first discovered oxidative stress as a major cause of male infertility? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Tempstent (talk). Self-nominated at 00:49, 27 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article has been expanded enough and in time. Earwig states there is a 44.4% similiarity to one of the references, but they are things that can't be sufficiently reworded - most of the matches are names of places, titles, and awards. I assume good faith on the references that I can't access. A QPQ is not needed. There is one remaining issue in the article - The 19th reference goes to the Scopus home page. I will approve ALT1 once that issue is fixed. SL93 (talk) 19:36, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 28[edit]

Birgit Dahlenburg

Croy Tapestry
Croy Tapestry
  • ... that the art historian Birgit Dahlenburg was instrumental in the recognition of the Croy Carpet (pictured) from the 16th century as a national heritage? Source: [24]
  • Reviewed: Rosalie Carey
  • Comment: Article spent a few days in Main space in 2019, then a year+ in draft, now a few days back in Mainspace.

Moved to mainspace by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 14:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment For heaven's sake Gerda, this is a tapestry (for a wall) NOT a carpet (for a floor). And please translate the caption. Also " a national heritage" is not idiomatic English. Johnbod (talk) 16:15, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
    Thank you for teaching, but had it to be heaven? I can use the English phrase for the caption instead of the original Croy-Teppich, but thought it adds little. Sorry, I often don't know what's idiomatic English. My translator suggests for Kulturgut: cultural heritage, cultural property, cultural asset. I thought that "cultural" was redundant in this case as long as you see it.
    I would have thought the German word was "tapestrie". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:34, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
    ALT0a: ... that the art historian Birgit Dahlenburg was instrumental in the recognition of the Croy Tapestry (pictured) from the 16th century as a cultural asset of national value? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:06, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Dates of birth and death are in the lead and the infobox but not the body and are not referenced. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 05:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Chetana Nagavajara

  • ... that Chetana Nagavajara is the first person to receive two doctorates, one Dr.Phil. and one Dr.h.c., from the University of Tübingen? Source: "... เพราะมหาวิทยาลับทือบิงเงินเอง แม้ไม่มีกฎข้อห้ามแต่ก็ไม่มีระเบียบกฎเกณฑ์ว่าด้วยเรื่องมอบปริญญาซ้ำ การมอบปริญญาดุษฎีบัณฑิตกิตติมศักดิ์แก่เจตนา นาควัชระผู้เป็นดุษฎีบัณฑิตของมหาวิทยาลัยแห่งนี้อยู่แล้ว ... จึงนับเป็นกรณีแรก" ([25])

5x expanded by Taweetham (talk). Nominated by Karto1 (talk) at 07:23, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date, size, notability, QPQ, copyvio spotcheck, all good. But I find the hook very boring - it's the type of trivia nobody cares about. The article suffers from some peacock wording (the lead has an uncited claim that "he is renowned in Thailand"). How about we reference what he is "renowned" for and build a hook centered on this? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:30, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-cursive script

  • ... that since Chinese calligraphy is disappearing due to the introduction of solid writing tools, a robotic arm was programmed to replicate semi-cursive script writing using the writing brush 17 years ago? Source: "Yao, Fenghui; Shao, Guifeng; Yi, Jianqiang (January 2004). "Trajectory generation of the writing–brush for a robot arm to inherit block–style Chinese character calligraphy techniques". Advanced Robotics. 18 (3): 331–356. doi:10.1163/156855304322972477. ISSN 0169-1864."
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Expanded by MeipleLeaf (talk). Self-nominated at 03:47, 24 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article has over 1,500 characters in prose. Article was not expanded 5 times its size at the time of nomination but it has been remedied since. Article is written in a neutral tone and is adequately sourced, but the refimprove tag added in 2013 still is a concern. In the "Writing conventions" and "Computer encoding" sections, there's some unnecessary capitalization in the headers. lullabying (talk) 07:22, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Additional comments: this is the user's first nomination so a QPQ is not needed at this time. I assume good faith on offline sources. For the hook, I would suggest getting rid of the first part of the sentence as it makes the hook wordy. ALT1 was not suggested; did you intend on including it? lullabying (talk) 07:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 30[edit]

British logistics in the Siegfried Line campaign

A stack of jerricans containing petrol await collection
A stack of jerricans containing petrol await collection
  • ... that British logistics in the Siegfried Line campaign consumed so many jerricans (pictured) that stocks in the UK were depleted, and shipments became limited to the production rate? Source: Offline I'm afraid. Boileau 1954a, p. 351
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:29, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

Jack White (music producer)

Jack White during his football career (1965)
Jack White during his football career (1965)

5x expanded by Lachlad (talk). Nominated by Carrolquadrio (talk) at 09:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

  • Err the wording should be 'German former footballer' and NOT 'former German football player'. GiantSnowman 11:29, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Giant this is now corrected Carrolquadrio (talk) 00:50, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I think my problem is the article hasn't obviously been 5x expanded during the time period. I'm taking this diff as the last one before expansion, at 1532B, then this one as after expansion at only 6700B, or about 1,000 short. A shame, as I was hoping we could find a hook that would confuse the reader with the more famous Jack White. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:43, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Justin Clarke

5x expanded by JayKayWags (talk) and Carrolquadrio (talk). Nominated by Carrolquadrio (talk) at 05:49, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

Tiféret Israel Synagogue attack

  • ... that the Tiféret Israel Synagogue, the oldest in Caracas, Venezuela, was profanated during the 2008–2009 Gaza War? BBC: "An armed gang has ransacked the oldest Jewish synagogue in the Venezuelan capital Caracas after occupying the building for several hours. (...) Jewish leaders say tensions have risen since Venezuela broke diplomatic relations with Israel this month over its recent military offensive in Gaza."

Created/expanded by NoonIcarus (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 30 May 2021 (UTC).

  • ALT1: ... that the Tiféret Israel Synagogue, the oldest in Caracas, Venezuela, was profaned during the 2008–2009 Gaza War? BBC: "An armed gang has ransacked the oldest Jewish synagogue in the Venezuelan capital Caracas after occupying the building for several hours. (...) Jewish leaders say tensions have risen since Venezuela broke diplomatic relations with Israel this month over its recent military offensive in Gaza."
  • Symbol delete vote.svg You have nominated the wrong article. I suggest you start again. When you do, make sure you use the correct article in the hook. Schwede66 10:27, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Schwede66: I'm so sorry, I thought I linked the article in question. Is it possible to reformat the current hook in order to solve this? The name of the nomination is the same of the article. NoonIcarus (talk) 11:24, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Given that this nomination page does indeed refer to the correct article, you could just add a new hook (ALT1). At DYK, we don’t reformat hooks as the discussion about the nomination would become messy; we simply add new hooks. I’ve started it for you; just add to it. Schwede66 17:45, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Schwede66: Thank you very much. I have striken the old hook and included an alternate one with a new format, linking and bolding to the nominated article. Please let me know if there are any other changes, and my apologies for the inconveniences. NoonIcarus (talk) 22:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The substantial issue has been fixed and this can now go to review (not my area of interest, so I shall pass). I suggest the the "article expansion" tag is a problem, though. It's a maintenance tag and as far as I know, we don't run articles with maintenance tags. Schwede66 23:19, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • "Profanated" is not a word - "profaned" is. Johnbod (talk) 16:27, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Johnbod: My apologies. I have striken the typo and fixed the word. I hope that the MoS of the nominations allow this. NoonIcarus (talk) 20:26, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
Thks - I just substituted the correct word (although possibly other ones are better), which is usual here. To be clear, I was just commenting, not starting a review. Johnbod (talk) 21:37, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

Nilima Arun Kshirsagar

Created by Sachinvenga (talk). Self-nominated at 12:29, 30 May 2021 (UTC).

Presidential transition of Franklin D. Roosevelt

On the way to his inauguration, President-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt (right) shares a car ride with outgoing president Herbert Hoover
On the way to his inauguration, President-elect Franklin D. Roosevelt (right) shares a car ride with outgoing president Herbert Hoover

Created by SecretName101 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:51, 6 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. It is well sourced, but I did add a citation needed tag that needs to be addressed. The article appears to be written neutrally, I think it would be aided by merging some of those one-sentence paragraphs, but that's not a DYK requirement. Hook facts are in the article and cited. ALT0 is supported by the second paragraph of "Aftermath", ALT1 has its own subsection, ALT2 is there too but a little less visible (I see a mention of tension in the lead and a "tense car ride", the "failure to cooperate"). I'll approve them all. The image is PD. QPQ is provided. Just need that lame duck bill sourced. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 31[edit]

China–Pakistan Free Trade Agreement

5x expanded by S2102sa (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:
  • New Enough: Red XN - Nominator started to significantly expand the article on 11 May, 27 days prior to nomination. The second phase started on 25 May, but all edits on 25-31 May cannot be considered a 5x expansion (they were, if anything, a 2x expansion). Also, per the fivefold rule, the seven days start from the day you started expanding the article, not when you finished doing so, so you have placed the article under the wrong date (should have been 11 May).
  • Long Enough: Green tickY

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol delete vote.svg The article fails the "newness" criterion for eligibility by a wide margin (I'd not pay that much attention if the article was a day too late, but 27 days is a little too long). The article should have been nominated under the 11 May section. The length is good (ca. 9.5K characters, 1.5K words). Sourcing is pretty good, though addition of (more) news articles from reliable sources would be great. Even as the consequences for China are mentioned, the article is focused much more on the Pakistani side of the deal (evaluations/criticisms, for instance, do not mention any Chinese reactions at all). That is a pity, because the hook is very good. Anyway, there is a lot to work on the article, and next time be tighter with your schedule. Your edits are very much appreciated and the article looks certainly better than the version from late April, so keep going. Cheers. This is my second DYK review. Szmenderowiecki (talk) 00:17, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

@Szmenderowiecki: Thanks for the feedback! Since this is a fairly new topic, sources are limited. I exhausted pretty much all of the reliable journal articles and the news articles are reporting the exact same information, making it redundant to use more of them. Criticisms/evaluations/reactions from China was not apparent in any of the journal articles nor the newspapers, so I wrote the article with what reliable information was available. It might simply be that Pakistani scholarship has been more inclined to report on the CPFTA, or sources that are in English are written mostly by Pakistani scholars. When more information arises on China's p.o.v. on the FTA as it progresses, I'll be sure to update the page. Thank you again for the feedback! S2102sa (talk) 09:39, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Carolyn Huntoon

Carolyn Huntoon
Carolyn Huntoon
  • ... that Carolyn Huntoon (pictured) was the first woman to serve as the director of the Johnson Space Center? Source: "NASA has named Carolyn Huntoon director of the Johnson Space Center in Houston. Huntoon, who began her career with the National Aeronautics and Space Administration in 1970 and served most recently as director of Space and Life Sciences at the center, is the first female director of the command center of the U.S. space program." [26]
    • ALT1:... Carolyn Huntoon (pictured) joined NASA as a result of her master's thesis on aldosterone, a salt-retaining hormone produced by the adrenal gland? Source: " as part of my master’s thesis, we decided to study the salt-retaining hormone, [aldosterone,] because fluid and electrolyte balance had been a big issue with space flight. The crews were coming back in a fainting mode after they reentered. Their metabolism was not normal right after reentry, and we were trying to find out why. I set up an analysis for aldosterone, which is a salt-retaining hormone of the adrenal gland, there at Baylor College of Medicine, and that was for my master’s thesis. I did the analysis on normal subjects and on astronauts and for the first time documented that people that go into space come back with a very high aldosterone level, trying obviously to conserve sodium which had been lost during space flight. So that sort of was the enticement for me to get involved with NASA." [27]

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:03, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I am hoping that the image used does not have any copyright issues, it looks fine to for now. Another review of the image would be useful. I am new to reviewing so any suggestions would be welcome! Woman4Tech (talk) 13:20, 10 June 2021 (UTC)


Wanamaker expeditions, Joseph K. Dixon

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:42, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

Josh Phillips (murderer)

  • ... that Harry Shorstein, the prosecutor who advocated for Josh Phillips to be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole when he was a child, has voiced regret about the severity of his sentence? Source: [28]
    • ALT1:... that Josh Phillips, who was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for murdering his eight-year-old friend when he was 14, is eligible for re-sentencing in 2023? Source: [29]

Improved to Good Article status by Damien Linnane (talk). Self-nominated at 14:03, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

Habibur Rahman Khairabadi

  • Reviewed: Elena Urrutia
  • Comment: Article is good enough and well-cited. 1569 characters. Will be adding few extra things timely.

Created by TheAafi (talk). Self-nominated at 02:35, 31 May 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 1[edit]

32nd anniversary of the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests

CAPTION TEXT GOES HERE
CAPTION TEXT GOES HERE

Created by Ohconfucius (talk). Self-nominated at 12:20, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Tehani Egodawela

  • Reviewed: Orvokki Kangas
  • Comment: The Olympics start on 23rd July - be good if DYK had diverse athletes featured that day. Sadly no image (Ive emailed the Navy).

Created by Abishe (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 09:11, 5 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment: This is incorrect information. Tehani did not qualify for the games. She was invited by the ISSF to compete at the Olympics. There is a difference there. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 16:17, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I understand your point however we have sources which discuss her qualification. Is there a source to say that she is not qualified? If so then pls add this to the article. A hook of "Olympic contestant for Tokyo is not qualified" sounds hooky to me. Victuallers (talk) 16:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
She is invited to compete at Tokyo, she did not outright qualify to compete. An invitation is separate from qualifying on merit, which Tehani did not do. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 17:11, 6 June 2021

(UTC)

  • I understand your point ... however we have sources which discuss her qualification. Is there a source to say that she is not qualified? If so then pls add this to the article.. Victuallers (talk) 22:14, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Robert Saunders Jr. ‎

5x expanded by Pbritti (talk). Self-nominated at 05:51, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

June Fernández

June Fernández
June Fernández

Created by Victuallers (talk) and Throughthemind. Self-nominated at 12:23, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

10 West 56th Street, 12 West 56th Street

10 (left) and 12 West 56th Street (right)
10 (left) and 12 West 56th Street (right)

Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 22:48, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

2021 EFL League Two play-off Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 20:56, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

Santiaogou Republic

  • ... that Chinese-descended mining federations in Indonesia, like the Santiaogou Federation, fought bitter battles with the Dutch to preserve their democratic forms of government in the early 19th century? Source: [32]
    • ALT1:... that Chinese-descended mining federations in Indonesia, like the Santiaogou Federation, engaged in conflict with the colonial Dutch to preserve their democratic forms of government in the early 1800s? Source: [33]

Created/expanded by Theeelman (talk). Self-nominated at 16:00, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I did not see any source in the nomination currently. Also I propose it to be reworded so it sounds more neutral, as for "democratic forms of government", you need to prove it with source that saying they were democratic. If there isnt any, probably it should be removed from the hook. But the article is indeed interesting. Nyanardsan (talk) 22:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi! Thanks for the interest in the article, I've updated it accordingly. The sources I've put have proof that the federations had a unique democratic government with roots in Chinese village societies (late Dutch scholars have classified them as "republics"). Theeelman (talk) 22:27, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Theeelman: The nomination looks great so far, thanks for updating it! Definitely prefer ALT1 hook. The article is long enough and new enough relative to the nomination date. The sources are from Library of Western Belvedere, which says on the website has connection with Fuzhou University and the source page itself has inline citations, so I assume it's reliable. This is your first nomination and first five nominations, QPQ is irrelevant. However, there's still one another problem. DYK rule of thumb is that the article should have at least one minimum inline citation per paragraph excluding the lead. Can you please add citations to uncited paragraphs? Other than that, it's been quite good. Nyanardsan (talk) 23:23, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Forest in Turkey

  • ... that leopards live in the forest in Turkey? Source:Karataş, A.; Bulut, Ş. & Akbaba, B. (2021). "Camera trap records confirm the survival of the Leopard (Panthera pardus L., 1758) in eastern Turkey (Mammalia: Felidae)". Zoology in the Middle East. doi:10.1080/09397140.2021.1924419.
    • ALT1:... that leopards roam the forest in Turkey? Source:Karataş, A.; Bulut, Ş. & Akbaba, B. (2021). "Camera trap records confirm the survival of the Leopard (Panthera pardus L., 1758) in eastern Turkey (Mammalia: Felidae)". Zoology in the Middle East. doi:10.1080/09397140.2021.1924419.

Created by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:29, 1 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is new enough (created on June 1), long enough (4003 characters). Earwig's Copyvio Detector detects copyright violation "Unlikely". The article cites sources (although there is CS1 error in reference [9]). A QPQ is done. The hook is under 200 characters (43 characters), is cited (1), and meets the formatting guidelines. But I guess the hook isn't interesting to a broad audience. The source shows that "the leopards were extinct or on the verge of extinction in Turkey towards the end of the 20th century, but recent photographic evidence proves their survival." The fact that leopards live in the forest in Turkey needs to be rephrased to make the hook interesting. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 04:41, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for reviewing. Have reworded hook with a better verb. I am not American myself but a lot of readers are and I guess ALT1 would be now be surprising for them as it was for me as a Brit - any USA readers like to comment. If anyone has a better idea for a hook please suggest. Kavyansh.Singh your hook ideas welcome - roaming to and from Iraq is maybe too speculative? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:37, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Chidgk1, thanks for your contribution, but I am still concerned about hook, which is not interesting to a broad audience. Leopards living or roaming in forest of Turkey doesn't grab attention, until they have been recently found, and were previously considered extinct. I suggest the following hook:
"... that recent photographic record confirms existence of leopards in Turkey's forest, which were considered to be extinct in late 20th century?"
If you consider selecting this hook, the same changed need to be made in article too. Thanks! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 07:06, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
  • ALT2:... that many thought leopards had been extirpated from the country, but now they have been snapped roaming the forest in Turkey? Source:Karataş, A.; Bulut, Ş. & Akbaba, B. (2021). "Camera trap records confirm the survival of the Leopard (Panthera pardus L., 1758) in eastern Turkey (Mammalia: Felidae)". Zoology in the Middle East. doi:10.1080/09397140.2021.1924419.

if you like the hook.

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I guess the issues raised are resolved and new hooks are added by nominator. I leave the review to a different reviewer, who will review the hooks, wording, and everything else. Thanks for your contribution. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 14:23, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Kavyansh.Singh I did not mean to imply that only native speaker English readers are important. I see you have done a lot of articles about India - obviously India is lucky enough to have many more leopards than here so readers there might be hooked by something different. I would be happy if you are able to continue. If not thanks very much for getting most of it done. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:44, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 2[edit]

Travesti (gender identity)

Source: International Journal of Social Psychiatry. Quote: "The aim of this article is to provide a narrative literature review of the ‘third gender’ phenomenon in Brazil (Travestis), India (Hijras) and Mexico (Muxes), considering the social stigma, the legal and health aspects of these identities."

    • ALT1:... that the exclusion, harassment and murder of the travesti communities are commonplace throughout Latin America?

Source: Transgender Rights (p. 267) . Quote: "The death of Alejandra Galicio represented the last step of an uninterrupted ladder of violence that permanently oppresses Argentinean and Latin American travesti communitites. The same stories of exclusion, discrimination, harassment, arbitrary detentions, tortures, and murders are reproduced far and wide throughout the continent."

  • Comment: A nice addition, considering June to be Pride Month.

Created/expanded by Rumba Samba Mambo (talk). Self-nominated at 22:47, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

Symbol delete vote.svg Article is 35,476 prose characters (based on DYK Check) as of June 14, 2021. It was 9062 on March 15 and increased to 11605 on June 9. (This nomination is listed under June 2, but the expansion started on June 9 as best I can tell.) A 5x expansion from 9062 would be 45,310. The article is currently ~10K short of that. It is an interesting article, but doesn't seem to qualify for DYK at this time. QuakerSquirrel (talk) 17:18, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
QuakerSquirrel I realize now that I rushed to nominate the article. If I'm understanding correctly, the article now qualifies in terms of expansion. Is the nomination closed or still standing? Thank you, Rumba Samba Mambo (talk) 22:05, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg As of June 15, it is now a 5x expansion compared to March 15. I think another reviewer should take a look at this time. QuakerSquirrel (talk) 12:50, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Christa Ludwig (writer)

  • ... that Christa Ludwig, known for fiction for young readers, related to horses, received a prize for a novel about Else Lasker-Schüler's late years in Jerusalem? Source: several

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 13:14, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

Theodolinda Hahnsson

Theodolinda Hahnsson in 1916
Theodolinda Hahnsson in 1916

Created by Tamingimpala (talk). Self-nominated at 09:21, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Annie Kanahele

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 04:09, 3 June 2021 (UTC).

Everett report, Lulu G. Stillman, Edward A. Everett (New York politician)

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:37, 2 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 3[edit]

St. Nikolaus von Flüe, Wörsdorf

Altar area of St. Nikolaus von Flüe
Altar area of St. Nikolaus von Flüe
  • ... that St. Nikolaus von Flüe (interior pictured), the first Catholic church in Wörsdorf, was opened in 1962? Source: several

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:45, 10 June 2021 (UTC).

Metta Lillie

Created by Tamingimpala (talk). Self-nominated at 09:43, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Helena of Skövde

Statuette of St. Helena outside St. Helena's church in Skövde, created by Astri Taube during the 1950s.
Statuette of St. Helena outside St. Helena's church in Skövde, created by Astri Taube during the 1950s.

5x expanded by Figureskatingfan (talk). Self-nominated at 03:20, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg 5× expansion of 10 May 2021 version not completed – was 1,743 characters and is now 3,565 (needs to be a minimum of 8,715). No copyvios detected and duplication detector check of online sources[34][35] reveal no close paraphrasing issues (AGF book source which can't go through Dup detector). Article is well-sourced. Main hook is 102 characters long (ALT1 is 125); both are under the 200 character max. limit and are interesting. Ref 1 (verifying the main hook) is a reliable sources (AGF offline ref 2 for ALT1). QPQ done. Image is free under CC BY-SA 3.0. —Bloom6132 (talk) 03:51, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
I withdraw the nomination, since it doesn't fulfill the 5x expansion requirement. Thanks for the review, and sorry to waste everyone's time. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 15:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg Don't apologise improving articles is always welcomed. Marking for closure per above.Cowlibob (talk) 10:43, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Royal Hibernian Hotel

  • ... that the Royal Hibernian Hotel is thought to be the oldest known hotel in Ireland? Source: "The origin of the Royal Hibernian Hotel, Dawson Street, goes back to 1751, which makes it the oldest known hotel in Ireland."
    ([36])

Created by Ritchie333 (talk) and Smirkybec (talk). Self-nominated at 15:56, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Suggesting "oldest hotel", because "thought to be" already conveys that it's a good guess, but a "oldest known hotel" suggests that there are some "unknown hotels" knocking about. Bogger (talk) 19:35, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
@Bogger: The problem with that, is that from my experience, somebody will probably complain at WP:ERRORS that "oldest hotel" is not sufficiently verified when this hits the main page. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:00, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
Will review...@Ritchie333: & @Smirkybec:...in meantime check Woodenbridge Hotel. Firsts and oldest are sometimes difficult. Whispyhistory (talk) 12:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
The source says the Woodenbridge Hotel was founded in 1608 as a coaching inn, which is not quite the same thing, although particularly archaically the term "hotel" has been used for what we might today call a "pub". Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:05, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Good discussion @Ritchie333:. What is the difference between "inn" and "hotel"? "The Royal Hibernian Hotel had been there for two centuries, beginning life as a coaching inn." [37]... Another first...Old Glenbigh Hotel[38]? Otherwise so far...new enough, no copyvio issues, long enough, QPQ provided. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:12, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Well I'm not a reliable source, but as I understand it, an "inn" is somewhere you stayed overnight as part of an overall journey, while a "hotel" is somewhere you stayed as a temporary accommodation at the end of it. Since you can nowadays drive from Malin to Mizen in a day, this distinction has fallen out of use. As for what to do with the hook and the article, ALT1 : ... that the Royal Hibernian Hotel is thought to be one of the oldest hotels in Ireland? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 21:41, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Sorry for delayed reply. Did they all start as inns? Are these correct: The Royal Hibernian Hotel started in 1751 as a coaching inn [39]. Woodenbridge Hotel was founded in 1608 as an inn. The Glenbeigh Hotel dates back to 1792 when it opened its doors as a Stage Coach Inn [40]? I consider you very reliable btw...but who says it was the first? The source says when they closed, the Royal Hibernian Hotel claimed to be the first hotel in Ireland. If anyone else would like to help, please do. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:39, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
There's a transcript of a paper on public dining in Ireland (which the main source used in the article is an extract from) that says "The origin of the Royal Hibernian Hotel, Dawson Street, goes back to 1751, which makes it the oldest known hotel in Ireland (Corr, 1987, p. 5)." I've got no idea what source is "Corr, 1987" but it does mean the claim to be oldest known hotel is a little more verifiable (as opposed to actually true). I think I'm going to need Smirkybec's collection of Irish book sources at this point to progress further. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 15:52, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Found the paper you mentioned "The origin of the Royal Hibernian Hotel, Dawson Street, goes back to 1751, which makes it the oldest known hotel in Ireland" [41]. You could add to the article as a source. What is "known hotel"? Does that mean the Woodenbridge Hotel was the first unknown hotel? Let me know what you find. This reminds me of the articles I did on first transplants...or first successful transplant... or first transplant in a human etc. Sorry for nit-picking. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:16, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

The Yankee

  • ... that John Neal vindicated himself with The Yankee? Source: this book says on page 112 "As editor ... [Neal's] true reward was in earning back his place of acceptance in his hometown. Early issues, therefore, contain a good deal of self-vindication".
    • ALT1:... that "the very first words of encouragement [Poe] ever remember[ed] to have heard" were in The Yankee? Source: this book says on page 114 "[Edgar Allan Poe] seized on Neal's words regarding the possibilities of his writing a beautiful and perhaps magnificent poem, calling them 'the very first words of encouragement I ever remember to have heard'".

Created by Dugan Murphy (talk). Self-nominated at 04:42, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Wynne Neilly

  • ... that photographing Elliot Page for the cover of Time "really meant the world" to Canadian photographer Wynne Neilly? Source: a Ryerson University interview, where Neilly said that "I have so much gratitude for his choice to request me as his photographer for this historical moment. It really meant the world to me to be able to help him tell his story and that he trusted me to do it right. It felt like a lot of pressure but at the same time I knew I was the right fit and I knew I could deliver."
    • ALT1:... that inspirations for Wynne Neilly's photography of queer and transgender people include Catherine Opie, Cassils, Michelle Groskopf, and Robert Mapplethorpe? Source: This interview, where Neilly said that "Catherine Opie would be my number one photographic inspiration. I am really inspired by artists working closely with their communities and who use their body to tell a story. Some other inspirations of mine right now include: Cassils, Robert Coombs, Michelle Groskopf, Brene Brown, Robert Mapplethrope, Landon Speers, @shooglet, my community and dadaism. I’m also very into architecture right now, especially brutalist style architecture."
  • Reviewed: Obed Dickinson
  • Comment: It'd be lovely if this could run in June for pride month.

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 03:38, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Hikaru Natsumi

  • ... that Hikaru Natsumi retired from modeling after being arrested for indecent exposure upon stripping nude in public for a photo shoot? Source: "菜摘ひかるの可憐な"たたかい", Bungei
    • ALT1:... that Hikaru Natsumi contributed to adult comics magazines while still in high school? Source: "菜摘ひかるの可憐な"たたかい", Bungei

Created by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:08, 3 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svgIs this actually notable? Most of the references are just her works, which don't appear to meet NAUTHOR. Furthermore, I do not think this is a good hook, while she may be dead some years, I don't think pointing out her career ending with an arrest for indecency is the sort of thing we should be pointing out at DYK. If she is notable, I think a better hook would be acknowledging her Blog/books. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 01:10, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @CaptainEek: Natsumi was covered in the Chunichi Shimbun (one of the big three daily newspapers in Japan) and was the subject of an issue of Bungei (a major Japanese literary magazine), so WP:NOTE is clearly established through coverage in reliable secondary sources. The article contains the number of primary sources it does (in this case, references from the National Diet Library) solely for the purpose of citing her bibliography. I've added an alt hook, but I still think the original is the most compelling. Morgan695 (talk) 02:59, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
  • @Morgan695:Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks for parsing the notability :) I like the ALT hook even less I admit, it seems to also intimate a criminal action. While I will not fail this, I leave it to another reviewer as I believe neither hook appropriate. She isn't notable for criminal actions and I don't think we should be showing those off. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 21:19, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
  • I'll review this article. Symbol question.svg Article is written with more than 1500 characters in prose and statements are neatly sourced. Article was nominated within 7 days of creation. User passes QPQ. Offline sources are accepted in good faith and I found no copyright errors. Regarding CaptainEek's concerns about hooks, I agree that the original nominated hook should not be used unless it went through some rewording as her notability is not tied to criminal activity. I'm kind of ambivalent on ALT1, though. I can see why there might be some discomfort with some users regarding this. Can you come up with another hook in the meantime? lullabying (talk) 06:35, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Ryan Pretorius

  • ... that South African American football kicker Ryan Pretorius wore cleats two sizes too small at Ohio State to simulate kicking barefoot? Source: Buckeyes

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 08:10, 3 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 4[edit]

Alkalihalobacillus

  • ... that bacteria in the genus Alkalihalobacillus can grow in places as basic as hand soap and as salty as seawater? Sources: "Description of Alkalihalobacillus gen. nov....The majority of species from this genus...grow in the pH range between 6–11, with optimal growth occurring around pH 9–10 in the presence of 1–5 % NaCl" (Patel and Gupta 2020). pH of common substances from the EPA and "The oceans are composed of approximately 3.5% salt" the NOAA
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Apple127 (talk). Nominated by Rotideypoc41352 (talk) at 14:42, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

William E. Woods

  • ... that the only two names mentioned in conservative activist Jerry Falwell's farewell speech after his truncated 1981 trip to Hawaii were Bill Woods and Jesus Christ? Source: Politico, "When conservative televangelist Jerry Falwell traveled to Hawaii in May 1981 [...] Woods led a group that beat him to register the name with state authorities [...] When he held a rally outside the state capitol in Honolulu, Falwell was confronted by a sheriff presenting him with a summons: the Moral Majority of Hawaii was suing his Moral Majority, Inc. for using its name. Concerned they could get ensnared in the litigation, other venues which had agreed to host stops on Falwell’s Hawaii tour cancelled. Before retreating back to Virginia, a disconsolate Falwell gave a farewell speech that mentioned only two names: Jesus Christ and Bill Woods."
    • ALT1:... that after William E. Woods cut short a 1981 trip to Hawaii by Jerry Falwell Sr., the only two people mentioned in Falwell's farewell speech were Woods and Jesus Christ? Source: See ALT0
    • ALT2:... that William E. Woods took three same-sex couples to fill out marriage licenses in 1990, beginning a series of events that would lead to the legalization of same-sex marriage in the United States? Source: Politico, "Bill Woods had plans to make news, not history. He would bring three same-sex couples, two female and one male, to the main office of the Hawaii Department of Public Health in downtown Honolulu, where they would complete applications for marriage licenses. [...] What they had done was set in motion a chain of events that would send a novel legal question from the outskirts of the American imagination to the floor of Congress and the Oval Office in a little more than five years. Within a quarter-century, the U.S. Supreme Court would end the debate for good."
  • Reviewed: Hippobosca longipennis
  • Comment: Ideally this could run before the end of June, since it's Pride Month.

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 21:41, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Loretta Doyle

  • ... that judoka Loretta Doyle found out that she was pregnant during pre-Olympic selection medical checks? Source: [42], "As it happened, it all worked out well in the end, and my disappointment at not being selected by Roy was compensated by the fact that when I went for the obligatory medical, gender and pregnancy exam, I was told that I was pregnant… which was news to me … and I was delighted."

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:08, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Alt1... that after judoka Loretta Doyle failed to be selected for the 1992 Olympics she was disappointed and "delighted"? Source: [43], "As it happened, it all worked out well in the end, and my disappointment at not being selected by Roy was compensated by the fact that when I went for the obligatory medical, gender and pregnancy exam, I was told that I was pregnant… which was news to me … and I was delighted. " alt1 by Victuallers (talk) 11:43, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Ellora Derenoncourt

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Woman4Tech (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 13:22, 4 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 5[edit]

Michael McIntyre (sailor)

  • ... that Michael McIntyre, who was an Olympic sailing champion in 1988, won a Scottish schools swimming competition in his youth? Source: [44] "Before his introduction to sailing, McIntyre had been a keen swimmer and was a Scottish Schools champion at 12.", "Seoul 1988" section to confirm Olympic champion
    • ALT1:... that Michael McIntyre, who was an Olympic sailing champion in 1988, was awarded an MBE for services to yachting the following year? Source: 1988 win: As above, 1989 MBE: [45] (note: although published on 30 Dec 1988, it's for the 1989 New Year Honours

5x expanded by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:48, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

Chris Gittens

Gittens in 2020
Gittens in 2020

Converted from a redirect by Muboshgu (talk) and Stonecold415 (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 19:11, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

WBPX-TV

Improved to Good Article status by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 17:14, 5 June 2021 (UTC).

Raychell

  • ... that Raychell's previous stage name Lay was meant to represent her belief that singing while lying down would heal listeners? Source: ROCK AND READ girls (in Japanese). Shinko Music Entertainment. May 25, 2019. p. 104.

Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:03, 5 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 6[edit]

Charlie Wheatley

5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 15:24, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 7[edit]

Hebbel-Theater

Hebbel-Theater in 2007
Hebbel-Theater in 2007
  • ... that the Hebbel-Theater (pictured), designed by Oskar Kaufmann and opened with a play by Hebbel in 1908, was the only theatre in Berlin that survived World War II without major damage? Source: several

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:29, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Kate Baker

Portrait of Kate Baker, OBE
Portrait of Kate Baker, OBE
  • ... that Kate Baker (pictured), an influential Australian literary figure, once wrote a love letter to the author of the quintessential Australian novel Such Is Life, Joseph Furphy, whilst suffering from typhoid fever? Source: Barnes, John (1991). "Baker of Ours". The Order of Things: A Life of Joseph Furphy. Oxford University Press, p. 191. ISBN 978-0195531879.
  • Comment: I just got this to GA status

Improved to Good Article status by Aussie Article Writer (talk). Self-nominated at 06:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Mandau Talawang Pancasila

Source: van Klinken, Gerry (2006). Colonizing Borneo: State-Building and Ethnicity in Central Kalimantan. KITLV.

"The Buntok attack had been launched, the attackers now revealed in a letter, by a movement called Telabang Pantjasila Sektor Dajak. Telabang (or telawang) is a shield; Pantjasila was the Indonesian national ideology, a term that clearly conveyed loyalty to Jakarta. The attackers explained that they had been motivated by grievances, such as their dissatisfaction with government corruption and the cancellation of the marsh drainage scheme. The group added (no doubt with an eye to attracting potential sponsors in Jakarta) that it was ready “to die for” Pantjasila. The next day, the group rebaptized itself in even more florid, but slightly less overtly Dayak, terms as Mandau Telabang Pantjasila (mandau refers to a Dayak cutlass). It announced that its leader was Ch. Simbar, alias Mandolin, a Ma’anyan Dayak tribesman. Most importantly, it declared its opposition to the loosely allied anti-Jakarta rebel movements, KRJT, Darul Islam, and the Tentara Islam Indonesia"[1]
"The gang allegedly burned houses, raped women, then ran off with gold and diamonds they had robbed from the locals, as well as materials stolen from government offices. The marauders headed north to Kuala Kurung, along the Kahayan River, apparently intent on a repeat performance. They always left leaflets in their wake—this was a modern movement!—promoting the creation of Central Kalimantan province, asserting Dayak commitment to Sukarno, and declaring opposition to an Islamic Indonesia. "[2]


"The issue of Central Kalimantan was no doubt on the agenda of an important military meeting set to discuss martial law and regional autonomy in mid-April 1957. Security conditions in the region were now ideal, Tjilik Riwut and the new military commander of Kalimantan declared. Indeed, after having done his part, Simbar had been eased out of the picture. He and Embang came out of the jungle and were taken to meet acting Kalimantan governor, Sarkawie, and his entourage in Banjarmasin in March. Simbar told them he had “ten thousand” men committed to him all over Central Kalimantan. The group then travelled together to Buntok and to Bundar to witness four hundred Tentara Lawong members in each place take a symbolic oath of loyalty to the state. The following month, the gang members figured as guests of honor at official celebrations repeated in each of the three regencies that were to join the province. Simbar and Embang’s gangs were rebaptized the Youth Front for the Development of Central Kalimantan; the group was still led by Simbar, who was subsequently counted among the heroes of Central Kalimantan." [3]
  • Comment: First time nomination, QPQ irrelevant

Created by Nyanardsan (talk). Self-nominated at 21:40, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

References

  1. ^ van Klinken 2006, p. 39.
  2. ^ van Klinken 2006, p. 43.
  3. ^ van Klinken 2006, p. 45.

Modern Paganism and New Age

  • ... that Pagans and New Agers typically view history in different ways? Source: "The New Age movement has essentially recast Joachim de Flores's twelfth-century 'Three Ages of History' theory into astrological terminology ... On the other hand, with its essential distance from both Christian terminology and astrological reinterpretation of the ages of history, contemporary Paganism does not entertain the notions of either literal apocalypticism or metaphorical millenarianism." (The Encyclopedia of Modern Witchcraft and Neo-Paganism, pp. 183–184)

Created by Ffranc (talk). Self-nominated at 08:31, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

Kake (comics)

Tom of Finland
Tom of Finland
  • ... that Kake has been described as "a sort of Johnny Appleseed ... spreading the seeds of liberated, mutually satisfying, ecstatically explicit gay sex"? Source: The Complete Kake Comics
    • ALT1:... that Tom of Finland (pictured) based the appearance of his leatherman character Kake on a Finnish man he met in Stockholm? Source: Tom of Finland: The Official Life and Work of a Gay Hero
    • ALT2:... that Tom of Finland (pictured) gave his leatherman character Kake a friendly and easygoing personality to contrast typical portrayals of leathermen in heterosexual culture as menacing or dangerous? Source: Tom of Finland: The Official Life and Work of a Gay Hero

Created by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:14, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

Abeer Odeh

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Salukk (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 21:26, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Neva Milicic Müller

  • ... that Chilean psychologist Neva Milicic Müller wrote a book about parent-child separation that can help children and caregivers during the COVID-19 lockdowns? Source: "La doctora en Sicología por la Universidad de Gales y magíster en Educación, Neva Milicic, acaba de lanzar el libro "Nos separamos, ¿y los niños?, publicado por Editorial Planeta. Una guía para acompañar a los hijos durante y después del proceso de separación, que escribió junto con la también sicóloga infanto-juvenil Oriana Cifuentes. En el contexto de la pandemia, este tema toma un sentido más profundo, especialmente para las comunas en que ya rige una cuarentena total." Pauta

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Rizzle13 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 18:40, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Hanan Awwad

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Salukk (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 13:08, 7 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 8[edit]

Roxham Road

Refugees crossing the border
Refugees crossing the border

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 23:58, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Jochen Schmidt (dance critic)

Jochen Schmidt in 2010
Jochen Schmidt in 2010
  • ... that Jochen Schmidt (pictured), a dance critic of the FAZ for 30 years, wrote a book about Pina Bausch and her Wuppertal dance theatre? Source: several

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 10:45, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Suffrage Torch

Reviewed:Template:Did you know nominations/Nell Walden

Created by Megalibrarygirl nominated by Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:00, 14 June 2021 (UTC) (talk)

Angela Neal-Barnett

  • ... that the first Black woman to receive tenure in Kent State University's College of Arts & Sciences, Angela Neal-Barnett, emphasizes social support between Black women as "an indigenous form of healing"? Source: "The first African American woman to be tenured and promoted to the rank of Full Professor in Kent State University’s Department of Psychological Sciences and in the College of Arts and Sciences" (Anxiety & Depression Society of America) and "The power of Black women gathering to support and uplift one another is an indigenous form of healing,” says Neal-Barnett." (prevention.com)

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Rizzle13 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 15:18, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

1997 Football League Third Division play-off Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 15:09, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

Neha Narkhede

  • ... that Apache Kafka co-creator Neha Narkhede was named #33 on Forbes' 2020 list of self-made women? Source: "she helped develop software platform Apache Kafka" and "ON FORBES LISTS #33 America's Self-Made Women 2020" (Forbes)
    • ALT1:... that Neha Narkhede, co-creator of the open source software Apache Kafka also helped found Confluent, a company valued at $4.5 billion? Source: "she helped develop software platform Apache Kafka to handle the networking site's huge influx of data . . . which became open source in 2011." (Forbes) and "Confluent was valued at $4.5 billion in a private financing round last year." (CNBC)

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Woman4Tech (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 15:02, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

Kichiku Megane

  • ... that the fan disc of the visual novel Kichiku Megane includes a salacious typing game? {Source: SoraNews24: "Players take on the role of timid salaryman Katsuya Saeki, whose personality changes to a more confident and aggressive persona when he puts on a pair of magic glasses, and the game rewards skillful keystrokes by showing Katsuya’s male colleagues in states of increasing undress for quickly and accurately typing...")

Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 20:16, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

William Davenport (slave trader)

A slave ship
A slave ship
A slave ship
A slave ship

The ref William Davenport, the Slave Trade, and Merchant Enterprise in Eighteenth-Century Liverpool by Nicholas James Radburn (2009) says on page 13: "Throughout his thirty-eight year career as a ship owner, he invested in 163 slaving ventures, more than any other merchant in the history of the Liverpool slave trade. These vessels carried nearly 40,000 Africans to the Americas, and involved a personal investment from Davenport of £127,000, equivalent to £10 million sterling today. Davenport‘s lengthy involvement in the slave trade, coupled with his substantial personal investment made him one of the largest and most ubiquitous slaving merchants of his day."

5x expanded by Desertarun (talk). Self-nominated at 14:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg This is only my second DYK review. The only note I would make is that you may consider also shortening the hook to just say "...that William Davenport (1725-1794) was, by the number of ships disembarked, the single most prolific slave trader from the Port of Liverpool?". That way it doesn't use the title of "most prolific slave trader" twice in a row. Rizzle13 (talk) 18:31, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

  • Hi, thanks for the review. I've altered the word appalling and offered some Alt's below. Desertarun (talk) 08:29, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Source snipped from Alt0 says "Davenport's lengthy involvement in the slave trade, coupled with his substantial personal investment made him one of the largest and most ubiquitous slaving merchants of his day"
  • Source snipped from Alt0 says "Davenport‘s lengthy involvement in the slave trade, coupled with his substantial personal investment made him one of the largest and most ubiquitous slaving merchants of his day"
Rizzle13, I'm surprised that you think "appalling" is not neutral, but "slave", as a noun, is. There was already one example of "enslaved people" or "enslaved person" in the article, and I've tried to change as many as I could. We should not essentialize the personhood of a victim of kidnapping and enslavement down to a single word. Anyway, there is another problem: the "Abolition" section really is not connected to the subject of the article--and so, the image (which was never simply the image of an enslaved person) isn't connected to the subject either. Nor do I see, given what the article says about the subject, an easy connection between the subject and the Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade. Desertarun, maybe there is more in your sources. I do think that the two Alt hooks are great, but I don't think putting that image in there is appropriate. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 00:21, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
@Drmies: Hi, thanks for the review. I've switched the word slave in every instance I could find, I'm going to leave the removed content deleted, and I've added new pictures here of a slave ship. Desertarun (talk) 07:26, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
Comment: strongly recommend that the dates in the hook be removed. I am striking ALT1, since it's a copyvio, and adding quotes for basically an entire hook won't fly. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:10, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
I've removed the dates from Alt2. Desertarun (talk) 08:01, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

Rubén Rocha Moya

Created by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 05:15, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

Hugh Leatherman

5x expanded by Muttnick (talk). Self-nominated at 19:02, 8 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 9[edit]

Benjamin Rathbun

Benjamin Rathbun
Benjamin Rathbun
  • ... that Benjamin Rathbun (pictured) constructed over one hundred buildings in Buffalo, New York in the 19th century, only for most to be demolished soon thereafter? Source: Brown, Richard C.; Watson, Bob (1981). Buffalo, Lake City in Niagara Land: An Illustrated History.
    • ALT1:... that Benjamin Rathbun (pictured) constructed over one hundred buildings in Buffalo, New York in the 19th century, and was later jailed for forged endorsements? Source: "Channels of Exposure", Balleisen, Edward J. Fraud: An American History from Barnum to Madoff.Princeton University Press, 2017.
    • ALT2:... that Benjamin Rathbun (pictured), a real estate magnate from Buffalo, New York, owned a bank with his notes bearing "B. Rathbun?" Source: "Goldman, Mark (1983). "Ups and Downs During the Early Years of the Nineteenth Century". High hopes : the rise and decline of Buffalo, New York.
    • ALT3:... that of the over one hundred buildings constructed by Benjamin Rathbun (pictured) in Buffalo, New York during the 19th century, only one remains? Source: Title Guarantee Building: The lone remaining monument to the otherwise long-gone Rathbun empire ... Neoclassical style

Moved to mainspace by Buffaboy (talk) and Andre Carrotflower (talk). Nominated by Buffaboy (talk) at 04:14, 13 June 2021 (UTC).

Leah (metal musician)

  • ... that the heavy metal musician Leah has sometimes been called "the metal Enya"?

Created by 3family6 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

Tyra Lundgren

Tyra Lundgren
Tyra Lundgren
  • ... that Swedish painter, ceramist, designer, and writer Tyra Lundgren (pictured) was one of the most versatile artists of the 20th century? Source: [48]

Created by Ashleyyoursmile (talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

  • ALT1 ... that Swedish painter, ceramist, designer, and writer Tyra Lundgren (pictured) was one of the pioneers of the Swedish Grace style? source: same


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - ?
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg maybe consider an other (more specific) hook? Swedish Grace I didn't know what it is, a versatile artist I know what it is and well there is still some time to think of an other hook Paradise Chronicle (talk) 19:52, 9 June 2021 (UTC)


  • Paradise Chronicle, I have a ridiculously long watch-list and noticed only today that you've already reviewed the hook. My apologies for the delay. I agree that the first hook is pretty straightforward and I'm completely fine with ALT1. Ashleyyoursmile! 10:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Rolls-Royce Boat Tail

Created by Jupitus Smart (talk). Self-nominated at 16:40, 9 June 2021 (UTC).

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on June 10[edit]

Deutsches Tanzarchiv Köln

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:52, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

Planet Her

TOI 1338 b
TOI 1338 b

Draft created by Cybertrip (talk) and moved to mainspace by VersaceSpace (talk). Nominated by Cybertrip at 10:57, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

Sawsan Al Majali

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Salukk (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 21:47, 10 June 2021 (UTC).

Duda Salabert

Duda Salabert at a 2018 event
Duda Salabert at a 2018 event
  • Reviewed: Cris Miró
  • Comment: It'd be fantastic if this could run in June for Pride Month.

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 21:10, 10 June 2021 (UTC).

Need to Know (Doja Cat song)

Created by VersaceSpace (talk). Self-nominated at 14:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 11[edit]

Janis Sanchez-Hucles

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Rizzle13 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 20:42, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

1991 Burlington mayoral election

  • Reviewed: TBA

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC).

Lutjanus fulvus

Blacktail snapper
Blacktail snapper

5x expanded by Quetzal1964 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 23:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

Florissantia (planthopper)

1890 illustration of Florissantia elegans
1890 illustration of Florissantia elegans

Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 20:59, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

46 West 55th Street

Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 18:21, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

James Chappell (servant)

  • ... that James Chappell was awarded a £20-a-year pension by his employer, Sir Christopher Hatton, for saving his life during a gunpowder explosion at Castle Cornet? "In 1672 the castle keep and some of the living headquarters were destroyed after lightning hit the building, causing the gunpowder stores to explode. Hatton's wife and mother were tragically killed. But his servant pulled Sir Christopher from the rubble and saved his life" from: Cronin, Kate (9 June 2021). "The hero African servant who saved the life of Sir Christopher Hatton honoured at new Kirby Hall exhibition". Northamptonshire Telegraph. Retrieved 11 June 2021. and "On Sir Christopher’s death in 1706, he provided for James in his will, stating 'And to my servant James Chappell I give one Annuity of twenty pounds a year during the term of his life.' With this gift, James was able to live as a free man with his wife, and set up home in the local area, becoming landlord of a local pub." from: "Learn: Black Lives in Britain". English Heritage. Retrieved 11 June 2021.
    • ALT1:... that James Chappell is thought to be the first black landlord of an English public house? "Chappell married into a publican's family and it is believed that he was England's first black landlord." from: Quarmby, Katharine (20 April 2005). "Uncovering black history". The Guardian. Retrieved 11 June 2021.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 13:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

Libertarian Party of New Hampshire

  • Reviewed: TBA

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:29, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

John Harris (Australian Settler)

  • First major landowner of New South Wales
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Emilytang123 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:45, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Hi @Emilytang123, Thanks for nominating to DYK. As it is your first DYK nomination, these are few guidelines that may be helpful for you. Firstly, the hook is not properly formatted. (See WP:DYKHOOK for formatting guidelines) If you want to nominate the hook "First major landowner of New South Wales", you need to type it as "... that John Harris was the first major landowner of New South Wales?" and link the source. QPQ not required. The article is long enough (14924 characters), but is not new enough. It has not been created/expanded 5x/promoted to Good Article within the past 7 days. The 5x expansion began almost 27 days ago. In that case, the article doesn't meet the eligibility criteria. Still, your contributions to the article are very much appreciated!! Thanks! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:31, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Penn State Nittany Lions women's soccer

5x expanded by NoahRiffe (talk). Self-nominated at 16:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 12[edit]

1993 Burlington mayoral election

  • Reviewed: TBA

5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:54, 13 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 13[edit]

Dover Eight

  • Comment: First nomination.

Created by HeartGlow30797 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:44, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Peter Baker (slave trader)

Flagellation of a Female Samboe Slave by William Blake
Flagellation of a Female Samboe Slave by William Blake
  • ... that from 1783 to 1792, the Liverpool firm of Peter Baker and John Dawson was the largest in the slave trade (pictured, painting by William Blake)?
  • From The Captains in the British Slave Trade 1785-1807, author S. D. Behrendt, page 104: "The Liverpool firm of Peter Baker and John Dawson was the largest firm in the slave trade from 1783 to 1792"

5 x expanded by Desertarun (talk). Self-nominated at 12:25, 13 June 2021 (UTC).

  • Source The Captains in the British Slave Trade 1785-1807, author S. D. Behrendt, page 104 says: "Baker & Dawson used large slave ships" and "Baker and Dawson's Princess Royal" and "The Liverpool firm of Peter Baker and John Dawson was the largest firm in the slave trade from 1783 to 1792"


Articles created/expanded on June 14[edit]

Amee-Leigh Murphy Crowe

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:10, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Black veganism

Created by Valereee (talk). Self-nominated at 23:12, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

  • ALT1: ... that Blacks are the fastest-growing demographic of vegans in the United States, with twice as many identifying as vegan as compared to the general population? Same source, "The fastest-growing vegan demographic is African Americans."
  • Comment: Apologies if this is nit-picky, but my understanding is that "African Americans" doesn't necessarily mean the same thing as "Black people in the United States". It might be good to ensure that the wording reflects the sources in that sense, both in the hooks and the article. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 20:01, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
ezlev, not at all. The sources in this article seem to use them interchangeably. Blacks is a bigger group than African-Americans, and since Black includes (for example) many people from Jamaica (which AA doesn't always), I think Black is probably correct here? Open to other arguments. —valereee (talk) 20:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
I think you're right that Black is probably the correct/ideal term to use here, I just worry that it might not align with the meaning of the sources – for example, the Pew Research Center survey referenced in the source for ALT0 may really have been discussing African Americans in the sense of "Black American citizens" or something else that's semantically different from "Black people in the United States". That's why I'm not sure of the best course of action here. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 20:29, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Ezlev, sorry, how is Black Americans different from Black people in the US? —valereee (talk) 22:10, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
It's different because one can be in the US without being American. Again, nitpicky, and unfortunately the ambiguity lies in the sources themselves, which is why I suggested that it might be good to just use the same terminology they do although it's probably fine either way. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 22:28, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
So you're concerned the researchers were talking to a significant number of Blacks who were at the time in the US but weren't actually American citizens? —valereee (talk) 22:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
I wouldn't go so far as "concerned"... I was scrolling through the noms, saw what looked like a possible source–content inconsistency, figured I would point it out. Now that I've done that, I don't feel a need to keep discussing it unless you'd like to. You're probably right that the discrepancy wouldn't be significant. ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 23:05, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

Letters Written in France

  • ... that Helen Maria Williams' Letters Written in France praised the French Revolution even while she was imprisoned during the Reign of Terror for being English? Source: the letters in volume 5 "describe the political turmoil in France at a time that includes Williams's incarceration as a foreign subversive under Robespierre's Reign of Terror. ...Despite the climate of political violence and recrimination, Williams retains an optimistic faith in the ideals of the Revolution." (Laiser & Fraistat p169-170)
  • Comment: No QPQ because this is only my fourth DYK nomination.

5x expanded by Oulfis (talk). Self-nominated at 19:46, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting writings, on few sources, accepted AGF, but could you please find one or two more? The hook is fine. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:25, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Sure, I relied on the scholarly edition because it was the most comprehensive & useful but this is a widely covered work. There are a lot of articles which might add interesting tidbits, especially regarding style & themes, eg 1 2 3. Today I won't have time but I can add material from those tomorrow. ~ oulfis 🌸(talk) 21:06, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I found another book which has some really great in-depth detail, especially about the publication & reception of each volume. I spent some time adding in that information but have to step away for today. I plan to return in the near future to finish with reception info on each of the volumes (only have 4 of the 8 so far) but I think the edits so far have broadened the coverage & sourcing. The articles were interesting but much more focused on stylistic interpretation rather than encyclopedic background; I may use them eventually. ~ oulfis 🌸(talk) 02:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
On an unrelated note, would it be suitable to save this DYK to publish on July 14, Bastille Day? One of the notable things about this book is its in-depth eyewitness descriptions of the first Bastille Day celebration on July 14, 1790. I'm not sure how "timely" DYKs are planned but the date is coming up so it might be neat. ~ oulfis 🌸(talk) 02:43, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Lillian Comas-Díaz

  • ... that APA Gold Medal Award winner Lillian Comas-Díaz became interested in psychology after consoling classmates after a destructive hurricane? Source: "Born in Chicago, Lillian and her nuclear family moved to Yabucoa, a small town on the southeast coast of Puerto Rico. They arrived after a hurricane devastated the town. Unbeknown to Lillian, her healing career began after she consoled school classmates who were traumatized by the natural disaster. Based on this experience, she learned early in life that she wanted to be a psychologist." Gold Medal Award for Life Achievement in the Practice of Psychology: Lillian Comas-Díaz
  • Reviewed: Henriette Spitzeder
  • Comment: Written by Rizzle13. Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel. Full paper of the hook reference is likely behind a paywall. I have access to it & copied the quotation from it.

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Rizzle13 (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 18:41, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

María Elena Medina-Mora Icaza

  • ... that when María Elena Medina-Mora Icaza was appointed to lead the psychology department at UNAM, she proposed a "zero tolerance" policy for gender violence? Source: "Upon taking possession of the leadership of the Faculty of Psychology of the UNAM, María Elena Medina-Mora Icaza, proposed to establish a pact of "zero tolerance" to gender violence" (translated from Spanish; La Jornada

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Chef Vortex (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 17:35, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting career, on fine sources, Spanish sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The hook is fine. In the article, please make a few changes:
  • don't call her by given name alone
  • don't leave bare urls
There may be more, but that's for a start. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:34, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I think I've fixed those issues. See any more? QuakerSquirrel (talk) 17:07, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Good! Find a link for her, please. No time right now, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Saw something else:
  • Once an abbreviation is established, stick to it.
  • I think that institutions with an article don't need translation.
  • In English, it's COVID, not COVD.
  • In the hook, perhaps no pipe for the university, to place it in Mexico even for us less familiar with UMAM. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
I think I addressed the issues that you pointed out. Can you take a look & see what you think? Thanks for the review.
  • It's definitely possible that I don't understand the orphan tag, but there is an article that links to her. She is listed as a member of El Colegio Nacional and is blue linked from there.
  • I think I caught the places were UNAM wasn't used.
  • I dropped translations for wiki-linked institutions.
  • Changed COVD-19 to COVID-19.
  • I'm fine with your suggested change. Not sure whether/how to change the hook properly or whether to leave it up to the promoter to do. -QuakerSquirrel (talk) 18:33, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
Thank you.
ALT0a: ... that when María Elena Medina-Mora Icaza was appointed to lead the psychology department at the National Autonomous University of Mexico, she proposed a "zero tolerance" policy for gender violence?
Getting closer, thank you. I formatted the first reference, - please do the others similarly. No all-caps even if the source has it. I suggest you write more lead, - a summary instead of leaving her in 2006 ;) - not needed for approval, just a service to a reader with little time. - I never add "Selected" to lists, but up to you. See you later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

1989 Football League Third Division play-off Final

  • ... that Robbie Earle was appointed an MBE ten years after scoring an "MBE" in a play-off final? (Source "Vale got the breakthrough seven minutes into the second half - through the tried and trusted “MBE” method. Mills took a corner, Beckford flicked it on and Earle came roaring in to head the ball into the net. It was his 19th goal of the season and certainly the most important - but also the fourth headed goal he had scored against Rovers in four games that season" & Source "Wimbledon captain Robbie Earle was also awarded an MBE.")

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 17:03, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Bian er chai

  • ... that in the homoerotic short story collection Bian er chai, one can find the words of "Haha What Can You Do About Fate"?

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 16:23, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Symphyotrichum lateriflorum

Calico aster flower heads
Calico aster flower heads

Created/expanded by Eewilson (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Adding second Alt:

Eewilson (talk) 03:43, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Jameela Al Salman

  • ... that infectious diseases specialist Jameela Al Salman has supported the development of medical robots and called their use a "pioneering experiment" in Bahrain? Source: "Dr Jameela Al Salman, an infectious and internal diseases consultant at the Salmaniya Medical Complex told Gulf Daily News that the use of robots was a “pioneering experiment in Bahrain” and the rest of the GCC." (Health Care IT News)
    • ALT1:... that Bahranian infectious disease specialist Jameela Al Salman encouraged Bahranians to refrain from spreading rumors during the COVID-19 pandemic? Source: "Meanwhile, Dr Al Salman urged people not to spread rumours as the country is battling a surge in Covid-19 cases." (Zawya)

Moved to mainspace by QuakerSquirrel (talk) and Salukk (talk). Nominated by QuakerSquirrel (talk) at 13:35, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Viran Rydkvist

Viran Rydqvist
Viran Rydqvist

Created by Ashleyyoursmile (talk). Self-nominated at 06:53, 14 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 15[edit]

12 East 53rd Street

Fisk–Harkness House at 12 East 53rd Street
Fisk–Harkness House at 12 East 53rd Street

Created by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 19:15, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Ruyijun zhuan

Empress Wu Zetian
Empress Wu Zetian

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 15:14, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Michita Sakata

  • ... that Michita Sakata, a self-described amateur in defense policy, accepted his appointment as Director of the Defense Agency of Japan because he wanted to focus on topics such as the education of soldiers? Igarashi, Takeshi. "Michita Sakata Oral History Interview". National Security Archive. George Washington University. Retrieved 14 May 2021.
    • ALT1:... that Michita Sakata did not want to be a potential Prime Minister of Japan because he thought the role was too political? Purnendra, Jain (2018). "Changing Security Policies in Postwar Japan: The Political Biography of Japanese Defense Minister Sakata Michita". Japanese Studies. 38 (3): 377–9. doi:10.1080/10371397.2018.1518115. p. 377.
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending

Moved to mainspace by Roniius (talk). Self-nominated at 12:08, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Causes of the Armenian genocide

  • ... that the causes of the Armenian genocide are considered to include both long-term structural problems of the Ottoman Empire and wartime radicalization? Source: Naimark 2019, p. 50.

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 07:52, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Edwin Bechstein

  • ... that the piano businessman Edwin Bechstein received a Nazi state funeral and his wife taught Hitler table manners? Source: Das Kulturlexikon zum Dritten Reich. Wer war was vor und nach 1945 (in German). Frankfurt am Main: S. Fischer Verlag. p. 36. ISBN 978-3-10-039326-5, Zeit

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 05:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 16[edit]

The 40-Year-Old Virgin

Improved to Good Article status by SNUGGUMS (talk). Self-nominated at 22:03, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

Thomas Leyland

Slavers bringing captives on board a slave ship
Slavers bringing captives on board a slave ship
  • ... that Thomas Leyland won the lottery, enslaved 22,365 Africans, became Lord Mayor of Liverpool, argued in favour of slavery and died one of the richest men in England? (pictured, a slave ship)
    • Source1: this ref says “In 1766 he won a lottery prize, which he used to build up his business affairs” and “delivered 22,365 Africans” and “one of the wealthiest”. Source 2, Gomer Williams on page 617 writes: “during the mayoralty of Thomas Leyland, the Liverpool Corporation petitioned the House of Commons against a bill to prohibit the trading of slaves”


    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Desertarun (talk). Self-nominated at 20:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

Cheating in baseball

Moved to mainspace by Muboshgu (talk), Dmoore5556 (talk), and Isaacl (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 19:46, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

Edith Kanakaʻole

  • Comment: Alt hooks and QPQ pending

Created by Ezlev (talk). Self-nominated at 19:35, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

De Gruytters carillon book

  • ... that the 18th century carillon music manuscript by Joannes de Gruytters was discovered at a book auction? Source: Price, Percival (1950). "A Commentary on the Carillon Repertory of Joannes de Gruytters" (PDF). The Bulletin. Guild of Carillonneurs in North America. 4 (2): 15–35.
    • ALT1:... that the De Gruytters carillon book is a rare manuscript of 18th century carillon music? Source: Verheyden, Prosper (1922). "The Carillon Repertory of Joannes de Gruytters (Antwerp 1746)" (PDF). The Bulletin. Guild of Carillonneurs in North America (published 1949). 4 (1): 10–26.
  • Reviewed: N/A
  • Comment: Third DYK nomination. The article includes a header image that could potentially be used for the DYK hook. Let me know if this is preferred.

Created by Thrakkx (talk). Self-nominated at 19:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

Postage stamps and postal history of the Pitcairn Islands

  • Added a couple more ALTs from different topics. CMD (talk) 04:17, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Created by Chipmunkdavis (talk). Self-nominated at 15:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 17[edit]

Toman (actor)

  • ... that Toman helped popularize genderless fashion in Japan? Source: The New York Times (article)"Mr. Sasaki, a model and pop band member who goes simply by Toman, does not regard his look as feminine so much as genderless... The term “genderless danshi” was coined by a talent agent, Takashi Marumoto, who has helped develop Toman’s career."
    • ALT1:... that Japanese actor Toman was high school classmates with Mario Kuroba? Source: Kyodo News (article) "とまんです。彼とは(地元が一緒の)同級生で、高校生のときから遊んでいた“イツメン”なんです。 [(answering question) It's Toman. He was my classmate (from my hometown) and since high school, he's always down to hang out.]"

Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 06:48, 17 June 2021 (UTC).

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