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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.


Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
February 27 1
March 6 1
March 11 1
April 9 1
April 16 1
April 28 1 1
May 8 1
May 9 2
May 10 2
May 14 1
May 18 1
May 20 2
May 24 2
May 30 1
June 1 1
June 2 1
June 5 1
June 6 1
June 9 1 1
June 10 1
June 11 1
June 13 1
June 14 2
June 15 3 1
June 16 1
June 17 3 2
June 18 1 1
June 19 2
June 21 1 1
June 22 2 1
June 23 2 2
June 24 1
June 25 3 1
June 26 2 1
June 27 4 3
June 28 1 1
June 29 1 1
June 30 5 2
July 1 3 1
July 2 3 2
July 3 1
July 4 1
July 5 3 1
July 6 3 3
July 7 10 5
July 8 5 2
July 9 9 5
July 10 8 2
July 11 8 2
July 12 7 4
July 13 5 3
July 14 2 2
July 15 4 1
July 16 8 4
July 17 7 1
July 18 5 3
July 19 7 3
July 20 1 1
Total 160 64
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Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
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To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.

Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading‍—‌the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]


This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
  • Add a link to the nomination subpage at Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed to help in tracking removals.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.


Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on February 27[edit]

Tribune East Tower

Tribune Tower property
Tribune Tower property
  • ... that the proposed Tribune East Tower is part of redevelopment plans for the Tribune Tower property whose views are being protected by local politicians?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self-nominated at 23:06, 27 February 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new and long enough. Sourced adequately. Within policy. QPQ done. Hook is within formatting guidelines, but not particularly "hooky". However, I think it's decent enough to pass unless another reviewer vehemently agrees that a different hook is necessary. This is my first DYK review so let me know if there are any problems with my review. I'm still learning. Skyes(BYU) (talk) 18:46, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The hook facts are not made out in the article which does not mention politicians. Could we have a different hook please? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:54, 3 April 2018 (UTC)
  • The current article has a well sourced sentence that says: "...prospective buyers of the Tribune Tower property had redevelopment plans that were at odds with local interests to protect views of the Tower..." So I'll go with ALT1, which just removes the last three words of the original hook.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 04:49, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
I find the phrase "whose views are being protected" somewhat ambiguous. How about expressing it differently as in ALT2? Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:40, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Perhaps @Skyes(BYU): could consider the wording of ALT2 and give it a tick if appropriate. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 16:54, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg The article is pretty short, so I'm not sure there is any way to make it more "hooky". If anything, the hook is more clear now and not as overly wordy. It sounds great! Skyes(BYU) (talk) 17:45, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The reason it's so hard to come up with a hook is because there's hardly any information in the article to work with. It reads like a bulletin in a business magazine. I do not think this article meets Rule D7 in its present form. Yoninah (talk) 00:25, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks, TonyTheTiger, for your new hooks. ALT4 is great – short and snappy. ALT5 is okay, but the part about surpassing Trump Tower as the second-tallest building is not in the article. The article only cites the January 2018 plans where Tribune East Tower would be shorter than Trump Tower. I'll go ahead and approve ALT4, with the hook ref verified and cited inline. Yoninah (talk) 16:00, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

@TonyTheTiger, TheGridExe, Gatoclass, and Yoninah: Any updates? It has been almost a month since the last comment. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:14, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

I didn't know you provided an update, TonyTheTiger. My apologies. I still think it's presenting something that is still in the planning phase. I'm abstaining to vote since I simply don't know in this gray area. – TheGridExe (talk) 19:17, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 11[edit]

Sayyidat Nisa al-Alamin

Created/expanded by Ali Ahwazi (talk). Self-nominated at 10:27, 11 March 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen in online English-language sources. No QPQ needed for first-time nominator.
  • However, the article needs a copyedit for an English-language readership. It is unclear why the article begins with the section "Al-'Alamin" or what this section is coming to tell us. The rest of the writing is written in an unencyclopedic manner and is hard to understand, like:

Besides, it is quoted that Muhammad said “Fatimah is the leader of the ladies of paradise”, then it was asked of Imam Jafar al-Sadiq that “Is Fatimah the best lady of her time?” then he mentioned Mary as the best lady of her time, and Fatimah as the best lady of the paradise since start till end of the world. Meanwhile, many famous Shia scholars among Shaikh Tusi have quoted such high title(s) of Fatimah in their books.

  • I suggest you ask at WP:GOCE for help in bringing this article up to English-language standards. Yoninah (talk) 22:53, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
I reviewed the references a bit and it doesn't seem very satisfactory. Especially the Sunni section, it cherrypicks several opinions of individual Sunni scholars (who might not even use the exact term as far as I can see), and then use those to support the generic statement that "Sunni Islam considers Fatimah as Sayyidat Nisa al-Alamin". Many of the citation are primary (using primary texts from centuries ago) and might not necessarily reflect the opinion of the Sunni community as a whole. HaEr48 (talk) 07:04, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, HaEr48, have subsequent edits dealt with the issues you raised, or are there still issues that need to be addressed? BlueMoonset (talk) 04:59, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset: To be honest I'm still not satisfied with the Sunni section. The references seem to be cherrypicked and not very encyclopedic. There are a lot of WP:WEASEL wording such as "there are quotations from famous Sunni scholar" or " There are also similar narration(s) from Sunni sources", cited to either questionable source or very fringe books. If this is a title that mainstream Sunni use, surely the author should be able to find a more mainstream citation? Therefore, I doubt the suitability of including Sunni in the hook, or even in the article. No comment on the Shia part, because I'm not familiar with Shia sources. HaEr48 (talk) 04:41, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg There have been no edits to the article since April, and despite the recent comments by BlueMoonset and HaEr48 in May, there has been no response from the nominator either here or on their talk page. I will leave one final message at the nominator's talk page, but if there is no response within the next few days, this will be marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:15, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
I eliminated the section of "Al-'Alamin" from the mentioned article. Besides, I edited/removed some texts of it --in order to make it more appropriate in an encyclopedic manner. Additionally, hopefully I'll pay more attention to edit it --especially in "Sunni narrations" section in the next days/weeks. Finally, I appreciate profit mentioned recommendations. Ali Ahwazi (talk) 13:47, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Ali Ahwazi, your recent edits have left the article below the minimum 1500 prose characters required for DYK; it is currently at 1402 prose characters. You will need to bring it back above this minimum, and since the nomination has been open for over three months now, I don't think we can wait "weeks" for that to happen; please try to make the necessary improvements in the next seven days or so. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:30, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
  • The article is now over 1500 characters. @HaEr48: are you satisfied with the Sunni section? Otherwise I will fail this nomination. Yoninah (talk) 21:34, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg HaEr48 has not edited since June 30, and has not responded to multiple requests for comment on the article expansion. As such, a new reviewer is requested to check if the article now meets the DYK guidelines. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Sorry for the delay: I'm a bit occupied in real life, and don't currently have reliable internet access. I'm still very skeptical about this nomination. The main assertion in the Sunni section ("Sunni Islam considers Fatimah (Muhammad's daughter and Ali's wife) as Sayyidat Nisa al-Alamin") on which the hook also depends are cited to obscure items (books with no link/authorlink/ISBN/etc.) and a website of unclear authority. Surely if this is an accepted Sunni view, more mainstream sources can be found? I'll also drop a message in the WP:ISLAM talk page to see if other folks can provide info or more sources.
  • Just to provide context to other editors: the degree of reverence for the members of Muhammad family (such as Fatimah, the subject here) is sometimes a source of tension between Shia and Sunni Islam. Sunnis, while respecting the family, are typically wary of the excessive (according to Sunnis) reverence often given by Shias. This is why I'd like to be careful about the hook and the Sunni section. Without solid references this might appear controversial. HaEr48 (talk) 02:49, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Coming here from WT:ISLAM. I have a few concerns from a linguistic point of view. First, the Arabic-script name suggests the transliteration is Sayyidat al-Nisa al-'Alamin, so either the original Arabic or the transliteration is incorrect. Next the translation: as far as I am aware, sayyidah means "mistress" or "lady" (as in a female lord), nisa is simply "women" (see Surah an-Nisa), and al-'Alamin means "worlds" according to most translations of Surah 1:1; no "all the women", no "of all times". I do not know how they got to the current (too) elaborate translation, but it might have to do with the source being a book translated by Iranians, i.e. non-native speakers of Arabic/English. It would be nice if you could find a better source for its translation, preferably written by someone proficient in both Arabic and English. --HyperGaruda (talk) 14:56, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Actually, nevermind that anymore, I found a better and more neutral encyclopedic entry to address my concerns. --HyperGaruda (talk) 15:22, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
  • What I still find concerning though, is the synthesis of multiple sources to imply that the entirety of Shi'ism/Sunnism attributes this title to Fatimah, although only a select few literally say this in-text. Most other references only say that Fatimah is called sayyidat nisa' al-'alamin, while no explicit link is given between the reference being Shi'i/Sunni and it attributing the title to Fatimah. A case of WP:OVERCITE if you will. --HyperGaruda (talk) 15:57, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 9[edit]


  • ... that history is non-science?
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by WhatamIdoing (talk). Self-nominated at 23:56, 16 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Starting the review.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:32, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
  • New enough.
  • Long enough.
  • Well-sourced, with one error in formatting (confusion with article title/work) that I've fixed.
  • No close paraphrasing detected.
  • Neutral tone.
  • The hook is properly formatted, short enough, neutral and interesting.
Symbol question.svg *User:WhatamIdoing: Do you have a QPQ please?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:14, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
I don't think that I have five DYK credits yet, but I reviewed Superfest International Disability Film Festival last year. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:23, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg By "I don't think", I assume you mean "I am positive I don't." So it's fine.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:10, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hello, I came by to promote this, but the article right now has a big "{{Globalize}}" template in one of its sections. This might need to be resolved first before this is approved. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:15, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
User:SteveMcCluskey: I removed it as undue. Wikipedia is a work in progress, everything could potentially be improved, but I don't see it as a pressing issue and if it's going to block the DYK, that's not good. The issue could potentially be addressed afterwards, although I don't see it as a problem frankly.Zigzig20s (talk) 07:26, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg It seems there are no more objections from SteveMcCluskey so I am restoring Zigzig20s' tick. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:47, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Symbol delete vote.svg The hook is decidedly not neutral as there are sources (now cited in the article) that put history (and other humanistic disciplines) within the sciences. SteveMcCluskey (talk) 15:36, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
Not really. Archeology is not history, stricto sensu. History would be the interpretation (or commentary) of archaeological discoveries. Zigzig20s (talk) 02:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
@Zigzig20s: Do you have any suggestions for alternative hooks? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:07, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
I think the suggested hook works, as archeology is not history. It's a tool of history, like statistics or geography.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:09, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
@SteveMcCluskey: Thoughts? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:25, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello, all, I understand that there's some legitimate disagreement about classifying archaeology in this concept (i.e., a concept that separates natural sciences and similar disciplines from other knowledge-generating activities, like religion and art), because archaeology contains both science and non-science aspects, and any given researcher's work might be best described as one label or the other. Steve added information about the OECD's bureaucratic numbering system, but archaeology isn't really the important example there. The OECD's list explicitly includes the whole of humanities as one of the six areas of science and technology. This means that the OECD believes that (for their funding and statistical purposes) art and religion are "sciences". Opera and religious ceremonies are all perfectly fine in their own way, and they are perfectly legitimate Wissenschaftlich subjects – but they are not Science (in what Steve calls the English sense of the word, i.e., the only sense that's actually relevant for this article). The point of the OECD classification is that when a government gives a grant to encourage religious participation, then that should be called "science and technology research". The point of this concept is that religion is not science.
Also, as a general point, I'd like to say that a bureaucratic classification system is a weak source for deciding how one ought to organize knowledge. Epistemiology is an ancient academic subject that is not constrained by the rules written 12 years ago about how governments ought to report their research and development spending to another government agency that they hope will give them money. But if Steve really believes that's the true definition, then I'd invite him to add that definition to Science and see if he can get a consensus for it. If editors agree to re-define Science as including all of these "non-science" subjects, such as the entire list of things called "Humanities" in the OECD list, then we could merge this article away and be done with it. But if they don't – if, as I suspect they will, they insist upon defining Science as being only and exclusively systematic knowledge of a particular kind, and therefore all other knowledge is not science – then we should set the subject of this article accordingly (and probably link to Wissenschaft in the article about the OECD's FOS categories, so readers don't get so confused about religion being considered "science and technology"). WhatamIdoing (talk) 19:47, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @WhatamIdoing: Do you have alternative suggestions for a hook then? It seems the original won't fly. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
    • Why isn't the original acceptable? It's sourced, and it's the mainstream position. Finding "history" listed in a document about how to report government funding of "science and technology" does not actually prove that there is a general consensus that history is science. WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:27, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
      • @WhatamIdoing: I'm personally fine with the hook, it's SteveMcCluskey who has issues with it. Anyway I took a look at the source given in the article, and while it suggests history is considered a non-science, the same article suggests that there's significant debate on the matter and the status of history as a science or non-science is controversial. I suppose to be on the safe side, an alternate hook is suggested here while the original hook remains under discussion. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:17, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
        • The cited source says, "The English word “science” is primarily used about the natural sciences and other fields of research that are considered to be similar to them. Hence, political economy and sociology are counted as sciences, whereas studies of literature and history are usually not." That doesn't sound like classifying history as non-science is controversial. At minimum, it's no more controversial than the whole (English and French) idea that there is some significant difference between the study of physics and the study of morality, which some (mostly German- and Dutch-speaking) philosophers reject. It is true that some historians in the 19th century tried to re-define science to include the historians' particular style of creating knowledge, but it didn't fly. (See Nomothetic and idiographic for some of that; 'the proton always behaves thusly under these circumstances' is nomothetic knowledge, but 'this Great Man, in this time and place, behaved thusly' is idiographic.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:53, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
          • My concern is that the article can be read as taking non-science as an inferior grade of "knowledge" -- or even as not being real knowledge at all. Hanssen nicely addresses this issue in his article in the Encyclopedia of Philosophy: "The German term [Wissenschaft] has the advantage of more adequately delimiting of [sic] the type of systematic knowledge that is at stake in the conflict between science and pseudoscience. The misrepresentations of history presented by Holocaust deniers and other pseudo-historians are very similar in nature to the misrepresentations of natural science promoted by creationists and homeopaths." Unfortunately, this important concern is not addressed by the Wikipedia article Non-science, which is one of my problems with it. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 19:32, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
            • I think that having this article at all is the first step in addressing your concern. Step 1 in not thinking that non-science is bad information is discovering that (most) non-science is things like history and art and literature, rather than things like lies and fraud. Can you give an example of a sentence in the article that implies that non-science is inferior? I can understand reading it and learning that some non-science is inferior, but that's the parts of non-science that wouldn't be considered Wissenschaft, either. To put it another way, . WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:19, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg @WhatamIdoing: It has been one month since the last major edits to the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:03, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
    • Narutolovehinata5, I am not planning any further major changes. The concerns about Wissenschaft are orthogonal – they are, essentially, that this idea should not exist, because people ought to divide knowledge into scholarly vs non-scholarly rather than scientific vs non-scientific. I agree that often they should, but (for other purposes) they shouldn't, and more to the point, they frequently don't. I really don't think there is anything actionable in those comments. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:43, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg As it appears we're currently stuck, I'm now requesting another uninvolved user to continue this review. Fresh minds are needed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 20:56, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • The article seems fine from a neutrality standpoint. If the reader comes away thinking that the humanities is the same as holocaust denial and homeopathy, then that's probably saying more about the reader than it is about the article. The first hook is a little bland. Could go with something like ...that no single test has yet been devised that can clearly separate science from non-science?, although with the quote given in the citation, I'm not sure it's perfectly supported by the source, but may rather be inferred from the source. If you wanted to go with something with more purposefully dry humor, could go with something like ...that non-science includes all areas of study that are not science? GMGtalk

Articles created/expanded on April 16[edit]

Dafydd Gibbon

Dafydd Gibbon in Poznań, 2010
Dafydd Gibbon in Poznań, 2010
  • ... that Dafydd Gibbon (pictured) started his academic career in London Baptist Students Society?
  • Comment: This is a website created on 16th April 2018.

Created by Jolanta Bachan (talk). Self-nominated at 17:16, 24 April 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Apart from the fact this was moved into the wrong template space. Created 16th April, nominated 24th April. this is outside the 7 day window thus is ineligible. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 12:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg We can certainly give one day leeway to a new DYK nominator. However, the article is tagged for primary sources. Can you improve the page with secondary sources? Yoninah (talk) 20:53, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @The C of E and Yoninah: The nominator hasn't edited since May 22, so it might be possible that the issues may not be resolved soon. As for the hook itself, I think it needs to be rejected: for one thing, the society doesn't even have a Wikipedia article, and it frankly feels bland. Going to his article, there are a few other things about him that could be hook worthy: one was that he was both a "Linguist of the Day" and a "Featured Linguist". Another, possibly more interesting hook for the general public, is that he has published on European, African, and Asian languages: sure he's a linguist, but that variety might catch readers' attention. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:33, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: This isn't an abandoned nomination; in fact, the nominator made those changes on May 22 and is waiting for me to respond. I will do so later. Yoninah (talk) 10:23, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: The nominator has added additional sources to the article. @Jolanta Bachan: As for the hook itself, I'm afraid I've struck it since it's not really that interesting or hook worthy. Please suggest another hook based on the article text: my comment above has some suggestions for hook bases. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:05, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I also question the notability of this subject. The page is tagged for primary references. Yoninah (talk) 13:09, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Dear Yoninah and Narutolovehinata5, I added another external source for the article of Dafydd Gibbon. Now there are 5 primary sources and 9 external sources. I don't know what else I could do to removed the tag for primary references. Jolanta Bachan (talk) 10:03, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

  • There are so many primary references here that I'm ready to tag this for lack of notability per Wikipedia standards (please read that page). The lead says nothing about his notability, just facts about his academic career and publications, which many other professors share. Rather than cite facts to his CV, can't you cite them to independent sources? Has he been interviewed by newspapers? Has his work been written up in magazines or journals? I wonder if you have a personal interest in posting this page. I did some editing on the article. Yoninah (talk) 21:10, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi Yoninah! I am so surprised by the strick comments on English Wikipedia. I did the website in Polish and the experienced Wikipedists were content. The professor is well known in the field of linguistics, computational linguistics, and phonetics, was the editor of 3 handbooks published by Walter de Gruyter, received the medal of Ivory Coast, the medal of Adam Mickiewicz University, and supervised over 20 PhD theses of people from all over the world. This means he is well known in the field and maybe someone else could evaluate his notability. Is Wikipedia only for celebrities who appear on "breakfast programs"? On ResearchGate he has over 1000 citations and over 7000 reads. And ResearchGate is much younger than his work and people who he educated. I looked for articles or interviews with him, but he lives in Germany and it was a bit difficult to find on German sites, not to mention I wouldn't find online articles which appered 30 years ago in newspapers. Greetings from Poland. --Jolanta Bachan (talk) 22:42, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I'm sorry, I'm not seeing how he meets any of the criteria under WP:PROF. Most of the information here is sourced to his curriculum vitae. I don't see independent sources. I don't see significant awards. I'd like to call on another editor to re-review this. Yoninah (talk) 21:55, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg I heard that is much easier for a criminal to become notable than a prof. Let's see, Jolanta. I meet a man who is international demand, awarded honours. Can you use this review? I began a section External links, - can you put the links from Biographical there, with publisher and date when available? For a start. More tomorrow. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
ps: Be optimistic and word a hook. The one on top is boring, sorry ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:56, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 8[edit]

2018–19 RFU Championship

Created by Steven a91 (talk) and The C of E (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 19:44, 8 May 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article checks out the requirements: it's new enough, long enough, adequately sourced, with appropriately-licensed images, and with a QPQ provided by the nominator. Earwigs gives a score of 2.0% confirming that it has no copyright infringing material or plagiarism. However, @Steven a91 and The C of E:, I have concerns about the hook: while rugby is a popular sport worldwide, I'm not sure if the hook is interesting to a broad audience since the British and Irish Cup may not be familiar to those who do not regularly follow rugby. Perhaps an alternate hook could be suggested here? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:52, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
@Yoninah, Cwmhiraeth, BlueMoonset, Gatoclass, and The Rambling Man: Thoughts? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:47, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Basically meaningless jargon and almost certain to drive readers away. Either more links are required or a different hook should be proposed which complies with the DYK rules (see 3a - interesting to a broad audience.") This clearly does not meet that requirement. (P.S. I played rugby for ten years, and I certainly don't think this is even that interesting to a rugby fan, let alone "a broad audience). The Rambling Man (talk) 06:53, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
    • ALT1 ...that Coventry RFC will return to the 2018–19 RFU Championship for the first time in eight years?
    • ALT2 ... that the 2018–19 RFU Championship will feature London Irish after their relegation from the Premiership? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:03, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
      Both boring, just plain statements of what happens in a league structure. Teams go up, teams go down. And the refusal to link the teams is detrimental to the reader who may not be aware of "London Irish" for example. This may be one of those articles which just needs to be failed because it contains nothing of interest to a broad audience. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:23, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
      • In your opinion of course, Interest is subjective and furthermore I am not "refusing" to link the teams as I do not want WP:OLINK and I can leave it to the prep builder if they want to add extra links. Nevertheless ALT3 ... that the 2018–19 RFU Championship will be the first season of English rugby's second tier without Rotherham Titans in 14 years? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 07:49, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
        • I'm sorry, but I think I may have to agree with TRM on this one. None of the other alternate hooks appear interesting to a broad audience (if anything, perhaps ALT2 might be the closest to being interesting; perhaps it could be approved with some changes). This is because, honestly, few non-rugby fans would be aware of these teams and thus won't be able to appreciate the hook. At the very least, I suppose I suggest we stick with ALT2 and find a way to make it have a broader appeal (as the London Irish appear to be a particularly famous team in the world of rugby union). Narutolovehinata5 t ccsdnew 08:15, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
        • I'm just ensuring you comply with DYK rule 3a. These proposed hooks are, of course, not interesting to a broad audience. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:07, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

The original hook looks okay to me but you'd have to link British and Irish Cup. I'm not keen on the alts, I'm inclined to agree with the others that relegations up and down are pretty standard fare. Gatoclass (talk) 10:30, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

@The Rambling Man: I don't see what the error here is: if it's officially called the British and Irish Cup but it was English teams that withdrew, then I'm not sure how that's an error. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:23, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Which blurb are you asserting is the one to post? The Rambling Man (talk) 11:28, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
@The Rambling Man: ALT0 since that appears to be the preference of both the nominator and Gatoclass. Personally I don't have a preferred hook at the moment. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:52, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, so see above. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:14, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to try to help. I know nothing about rugby. The article doesn't seem to have much material to draw on for a hook; maybe it should be expanded? In the meantime, I wonder if you could do something hooky resembling a final score, like:
  • ALT3: ... that the teams playing in the 2018–19 RFU Championship are 11–1? Yoninah (talk) 19:31, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I don't understand that one at all @Yoninah:, sorry (where is 11-1 in the article anyway?). Would you be able to look at the others originally proposed please? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 23:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
  • @The C of E: I was trying to work something around the 11 English teams and 1 Jersey team in the championship. Like the other editors here, I don't find the other hooks particularly interesting. Yoninah (talk) 17:12, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
  • OK I get it now. Well I have no problems with it but I do suspect some may raise their eyebrows like I did but would be happy for it to go forward @Yoninah:. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 23:22, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg OK. New reviewer needed for ALT3. Yoninah (talk) 18:40, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 9[edit]

Unity of the intellect

Created by HaEr48 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:12, 8 May 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article currently focusses on the ideas of Averroes, crediting him with the main thesis. But he was interpreting Aristotle and was not alone in this. When one searches for the phrase unity of the intellect, one finds this attributed to other earlier thinkers such as Avempace. For example, "Ibbn Bajja was known preeminently as the proponent of the theory of the unity of the intellect". So, there seems to be two ways that this can be resolved. If the article keeps its current title, then it should present the development of Aristotle's idea of the passive intellect as the work of many philosophers over time and not start with Averroes. If it is to focus specifically on Averroes' ideas then it needs a narrower title and some justification for being distinct from Averroism. Also, a QPQ is needed too, of course. Andrew D. (talk) 18:33, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
@Andrew Davidson: Thanks for your review. QPQ is added. As for your question. Yes he interpreted Aristotle, but that doesn't mean it's not a distinct idea. During his time, the scientific method wasn't commonly practiced and progress in thoughts was often made by exegesis and drawing new conclusion from previous texts (especially Aristotle). The background section had a little bit more about previous theses on a single intellect, and also how Averroes' idea is distinct. Basically the other thinkers hold that each individual human has their own intellect which somehow cooperates with the single, superhuman intellect, while Averroes' idea says this singe intellect is the human mind itself, and there is no individual intellect. The sources I cite clearly associate this thesis with Averroes, e.g. "Averroes' proposal was greeted with derision" or "Averroes' best known philosophical doctrine holds that there is only one intellect for all human beings" (see also surrounding texts in both sources). As for Ibn Bajjah, I haven't read about his thesis in detail, but Adamson p.190 says that "Averroes decided he could not accept Ibn Bajja's teaching", which indicate his idea is different from Averroes'? Does this make sense? HaEr48 (talk) 06:15, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
@Andrew Davidson: I'm waiting for your reply. HaEr48 (talk) 01:04, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg My point has not been addressed and so I'm not willing to pass this. As we don't agree, I suggest getting another opinion to help establish a consensus. Andrew D. (talk) 06:33, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article otherwise meets all the DYK requirements (length/newness/copyright/stability/QPQ/etc.), but I'm concerned about the article's structure. Checking online, it seems that most discussion of the concept was made by Aquinas, and yet Aquinas only gets one paragraph in the article. I also agree Andrew that the article needs more discussion about other proponents of the theory (such as Ibbn Bajja). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:08, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the review. As for why most internet search result had Aquinas, it's because Aquinas wrote a book trying to reject the theory, the book is called On the Unity of the Intellect against Averroists I suspect most of your search result mentioning Aquinas is actually an e-book or an e-commerce site selling this book. Aquinas himself reject the theory (see paragraph 3 of "Legacy" section in the article, where Aquinas' rejection is discussed with citation). Since Aquinas is not a proponent of this theory, but a denier, it makes sense that he's not discussed in the "Theory" section where we discuss the theory itself, but only in "Legacy" section where we discuss various responses to the theory. Does that make sense? HaEr48 (talk) 04:36, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
@HaEr48: If that's the case, perhaps some more detail could be added to the article? Considering Aquinas' treatise doesn't appear to have its own article, and how retrospective coverage gives a lot of attention to said treatise, it probably needs at the very least its own section as opposed to just one paragraph. It doesn't even elaborate Aquinas' critiques other than the sentence "He used the philosophical and theological oppositions mentioned above, and used his own reading of Aristotle to show that Averroes misinterpreted what Aristotle said". And as I previously mentioned, the article still feels incomplete with regards to discussion by other supporters of the theory. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:56, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the response. The paragraph before the paragraph you cited detailed the criticism from Aquinas—which he shares with other Scholastics. I feel it unnecessary to repeat it in the next paragraph. I updated the article to make it clear that the preceding paragraph includes Aquinas' criticism [1]. "Criticism" now has its own section. As for the other supporters of the theory, the "Latin Averroists" section names multiple supporters of the theory as well as their contributions. Let me know if there's more I can do. HaEr48 (talk) 02:09, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg @HaEr48: The sectioning is a lot better now and I'm almost ready to pass this. With that said, Andrew Davidson's concern about other proponents of the concept (such as Avempace) are not even mentioned in the article remains unaddressed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:08, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: added a passage about avempace or Ibn Bajjah. HaEr48 (talk) 02:59, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Noted. Calling on Andrew to finish the nomination and to state if their objections have been addressed or not. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:45, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg No, my objection has not been sufficiently addressed. One can see this in the opening sentence and lead which still credits the concept to Averroes alone. Andrew D. (talk) 07:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Expanded the lead to note the influence and contributions from other thinkers. HaEr48 (talk) 09:25, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 10[edit]


Campanino apples (National Fruit Collection, UK)
Campanino apples (National Fruit Collection, UK)
  • ... that Campanino apples (pictured) have high content of antioxidants (up to 4 times more than Golden Delicious apples), high content of pectin and polyphenols, as well as ascorbic acid (vitamin C)? Source: E. Cocci; G. Sacchetti; M. Carboni; G.G. Pinnavaia; D. Mastrocola (2003). "Caratterizzazione e valorizzazione tecnologica di antiche varietà di melo dell'Emilia Romagna: studio sulle proprietà funzionali di trasformati in purea". Rivista di Frutticoltura (3): 69-72. , cited here
    • ALT1:...that Campanino apples can be easily preserved for six months after harvesting, without any use of refrigeration? Source: Agriculture department of Regione Emilia-Romagna; Sacchetti G.; Cocci E.; Pinnavaia G.G.; Mastrocola D.; Dalla Rosa M. (2008). "Influence of processing and storage on the activity of apple derivates". International Journal of Food Science and Technology (43): 797-804. , cited here
    • ATL2: ...that Campanino apples can be easily preserved for six months after harvesting, since their flesh is hard like marble? Source: "Mela campanina di Modena". Tradizioni e sapori di Modena (in Italian). Camera di Commercio di Modena. 

Created by Holapaco77 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC).


Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - The first hook seems too technical to be easily verifiable from an Italian language source. ALT1 is better but the source seems to indicate that the apples were preserved using natural cold and frost. That might not be easy and is arguably a natural form of refrigeration. I suggest focussing on the fact that the frost makes them taste better.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Andrew D. (talk) 21:06, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

  • @Holapaco77: Hello, it has been almost two months since the last comments in this nomination, and some paragraphs are still unsourced. Please source them as soon as possible so that this nomination can proceed. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 09:45, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
@Andrew Davidson:@Narutolovehinata5:  Done, all paragraph have citations now. Thanks you. --Holapaco77 (talk) 11:57, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Noted. While I'm almost ready to approve this, Andrew has some suggestions for the hook and it might be needed to take them into account. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:27, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
Ok, actually the area of origin of this apple is Modena, Italy, where there is a humid mediterranean climate (see: Modena#Climate), so there is not any "natural cold" in this area. Campanino apple lasts so long (120-180 days, instead of 60-90 days of "normal" average apples) because the flesh is very hard (they say "like the marble") and the harvesting is in middle october, while normal apples are harvested in september. Anyway, the hook can be changed as "...that Campanino apples can be easily preserved for six months after harvesting, since their flesh is hard like marble?" (or something like that). --Holapaco77 (talk) 21:03, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Mimi Mondal

  • Reviewed: QPQ To Come Alfred Eteson
  • Comment: Both hooks are supported by several other sources already cited in the article

Created by Draken122 (talk), DESiegel (talk), TheOneWorkingAccount (talk), and Ymblanter (talk). Nominated by DESiegel (talk) at 09:02, 17 May 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. ALT0 is more hooky IMO; hook ref verified and cited inline. QPQ done. ALT0 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 20:32, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Still waiting on a QPQ. Yoninah (talk) 20:36, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Nope. QPQ done. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 19:05, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hello, I came by to promote this, but I have some questions about the article. First: is her date of birth or at least year of birth unknown? Secondly, the "Bibliography" section completely lacks references. Perhaps each work could be individually cited, or a general citation listing all her works could be added here? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:42, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Hello, Narutolovehinata5. She does not list a year of birth in the biography section of her own web site, nor in her online resume. None of the cited sources list one, nor did any source I found, and I looked for one. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 12:59, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
Bibliographies are generally self-citing,and do not need footnotes, as a published work is a valid source about itself, if proper bibliographic info has been listed. However I see the info about several of the works is incomplete. I will attempt to fill it out and/or provide additional souring, and ping you when I have done so. DES (talk)DESiegel Contribs 12:59, 4 June 2018 (UTC)
  • @DESiegel: It has been almost a month since your last updates to the article, have there been any updates since then? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:14, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The nominator has not edited since June 30. Calling on article co-contributor Ymblanter to comment if they wish to continue the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:13, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
    Thanks for pinging me. I am now travelling and have bad internet connection, I will see next week what I can do and respond here.—-Ymblanter (talk) 07:53, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 18[edit]

Railway surgery

  • ... that some railway surgeons opposed the introduction of first aid kits on trains maintaining that only doctors should carry out this work? Source: Aldrich (2001), pp. 286-287

Moved to mainspace by Spinningspark (talk). Self-nominated at 21:30, 18 May 2018 (UTC).

  • reviewing, long enough, interesting, well written Whispyhistory (talk) 05:19, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
  • General eligiblity:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Really a very well written, thorough article. copyvio ok. Pleasure to read. Sampled some references, most I do not have access to, but appear very well thought out. Did you want links to general practitioner (links to modern version) or physician? AGF on most references. Everything is cited. The hook is correct but should it be in the article? Article says "There was some opposition to first aid through fear that it eroded the professional status of doctors and that local contract railway surgeons would lose the fees they would otherwise have accrued for the work". In addition, a hook centred around the attempt to remove an accidentally appointed female railway surgeon might be considered. Whispyhistory (talk) 04:57, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure I entirely understand why you think that the hook is not cited. Do you think that the article does not say that doctors should be rendering first aid rather than other railway workers? I would maintain that that is what the article says through the device of enumerating the reasons that railway surgeons argued this. In any case, the source cited is perfectly clear on this:

Yet if some railway physicians embraced first aid, to many others it was anathema. In the discussion of a paper by Dickson presented to the Association of Railway Surgeons in 1902, W. B. Outten of the Missouri Pacific claimed that “it is very difficult to teach these ignorant men very much about rendering First Aid as it ought to be rendered.” Yet the real complaint of those who opposed first aid training was not that the men were uneducable, but just the reverse: that rather than becoming an extension of the surgeon, as Jonas saw them, they would be a substitute. Thus, Outten went on to claim that “those who have no hospital department in connection with their railroads are naturally friends of first aid.” Another physician, Dr. James H. Ford, worried that “we should not permit them to have the idea enter their heads that they are to displace the local surgeons.” Dr. W. A. McCandless also worried about economics: “I believe much of the work entrusted to railway employees in rendering First Aid should be assigned to physicians. They are poor and they need the money for rendering such service,” he candidly observed.

— Aldrich, 2001
I don't think that general practitioner or physician should be linked. The doctors they had especially in mind were other railway surgeons or local doctors under contract fulfilling the duties of railway surgeon. On Sofie Herzog, I think the first aid issue is more directly relevant to the article and is thus a better hook. Although her case is astonishing to modern sensibilities, I rather think the company would have reacted in exactly the same way on discovering a female train driver had been appointed. The fact that the post was for railway surgeon is almost incidental. But put that article up for GA if you like and get it in DYK that way. As far as I can tell, it's never been to DYK before. SpinningSpark 14:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Ok to hook wording. Will let you decide about your GP links. The hook fact in the article still needs an inline citation at the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact. Citations at the end of the paragraph are not sufficient. Whispyhistory (talk) 17:31, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Oh good grief, I thought we were supposed to be WP:NOTBUREAUCRACY. The cite is a dozen words away and those twelve words are still talking about first aid kits. Maybe I'll do it in a couple of weeks time if I happen to be overcome with the urge to do something utterly pointless. SpinningSpark 17:55, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @Spinningspark: IMO What Whispyhistory asked is a simple and reasonable request in good faith. Please just address it without snarky comments. HaEr48 (talk) 22:14, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
  • @HaEr48: What you are all forgetting is the actual purpose of that rule. It is there so that reviewers do not have to trawl through the refs to find the cite, they can go straight there and verify the fact. There is little doubt what the relevant cite is in this instance, but in any case, I went to the trouble of transcribing a lengthy passage from the ref so the need is now moot (and it's behind a paywall anyway so you can't verify it directly). That took some effort on my part, but I did it with good grace and without any "snarky comments". So sorry if I have now run out of good grace, but I have a long list of articles to write and I'd rather be doing that than servicing useless bureaucracy. You can wait your turn – I'm a volunteer, I'll do it when I feel like it, if ever. SpinningSpark 23:29, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Symbol question.svg Query: there may be a QPQ issue. Template:Did you know nominations/Workplace robotics safety has already been claimed by Old School WWC Fan for Anarchism in Puerto Rico. It looks like OSWF did the full review. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:17, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

My review was a full review of all DYK requirements and I clearly stated that I thought all requirements had been met. @BlueMoonset: can we have a ruling on whether or not second reviews are valid for QPQ? I will happily do another QPQ review if that is what is required. SpinningSpark 10:54, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Spinningspark, Reidgreg, since the nomination had been pulled back from prep, a new review was clearly in order and should be credited. It is always possible for one nomination to end up having more than one review getting QPQ credit in any number of circumstances; for example, the initial complete review may uncover significant issues with the nomination, and if the reviewer also suggests an alternate hook, they cannot review the nomination further since someone else must check the newly proposed hook (and also that the issues raised earlier have been addressed). BlueMoonset (talk) 03:59, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 20[edit]

Wally Schirra

  • ... that NASA astronaut Wally Schirra was Walter Cronkite's co-anchor during the seven Moon landings? Source: Schirra, Wally; Billings, Richard (1988). Schirra's Space. Annapolis, MD: Naval Institute Press. ISBN 1-55750-792-9
  • Comment: The source of the hook is on page 221-223

Improved to Good Article status by Balon Greyjoy (talk). Self-nominated at 02:58, 21 May 2018 (UTC).

  • Reviewing... Chris857 (talk) 04:42, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
  • Article was promoted to GA status recently enough, I took the liberty of adding some needed formatting to the hook, hook is short enough and sourced and pretty interesting (though he's got a lot of other interesting stuff).
  • Minor issues:
    • "co-authored the book 1962 We Seven" - I assumed this should say "co-authored the 1962 book We Seven"? Done
    • Per rule 3b, the citation for working with Cronkite has to be no later than the end of that sentence, and it's currently one sentence too far away. Done
    • Is this your first DYK submission? If so, you don't need to do a QPQ review.
    • IMDb seems less than ideal for the portrayal credits. Not a big deal to me or this review, but do we have better options available?
  • Symbol question.svg Chris857 (talk) 04:56, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi Chris857. I am dropping by to try and tidy this up for Balon Greyjoy. My preference would be to keep it simple and move it on. This is the nominator's first DYK so QPQ does not apply. I am inclined to leave the IMDb issue unless you insist. Relevant two sentences in the article tweaked to meet 3b.
Anything else? Gog the Mild (talk) 17:06, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Thank you Gog, this is good to go (AGF on offline sources). I'm not going to hold this up over the IMDb sources. Chris857 (talk) 02:48, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but there is a significant amount of close paraphrasing from this source [2] which is not public domain. I also think it would be easy to cite the films he appeared in by referencing a cast list or movie book. Yoninah (talk) 19:09, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 24[edit]

Duck netting

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 22:13, 24 May 2018 (UTC).

  • reviewing, new article, interesting, earwig's copyvio 2%, long enough >1800 characters, will complete soon Whispyhistory (talk) 03:10, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
  • General eligiblity:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Glad to see ducks are free at end. I trust isbn/dates of reference will be double-checked. Thanks. Nice article. Whispyhistory (talk) 14:40, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I have pulled this because I couldn't confirm the hook. The supplied source makes no mention of the claim that the sport "may be unique to the Imperial House of Japan". Gatoclass (talk) 15:45, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
I apologize for this inconvenience and error on my part, Gatoclass. I nominated this mid-writing and never got back around to finishing off the references, which was my oversight. I've updated the article and also copied the citation and refs here as they appear in it. Chetsford (talk) 07:45, 9 June 2018 (UTC)
In modern times, it is believed to be peculiar to Japan generally, and to the Imperial Household specifically.[1][2][3][4]


  1. ^ We Japanese. Routledge. 2002. p. 88. ISBN 978-0-7103-0719-4. The netting of ducks, a pastime in the olden days of the Tokugawa shoguns, is believed to be peculiar to Japan. 
  2. ^ "Duck Netting in Japan". Daily Racing Form. March 25, 1920. Retrieved June 9, 2018. This has been a pastime of Emperors for ages and, as far as known, is confined to imperial domains. 
  3. ^ Zakarian, Zabelle (2016). Medic: The Mission of an American Military Doctor in Occupied Japan and Wartorn Korea. Routledge. ISBN 1315503719. I have hunted duck in a number of parts of the world, but the method of hunting ducks in Japan, besides the unique imperial pastime of duck netting, was also unique so far as I was concerned. 
  4. ^ Vernaci, Richard L. (2010). Within the System: My Half Century in Social Security. ACTEX. p. 167. ISBN 1566987660. Duck netting was not a popular sport and it's easy to see why the Japanese have since taken up baseball and golf. 

Clifford Braimah

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self-nominated at 10:26, 24 May 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article meets the newness and length requirements, is free from plagiarism, and the article and hooks are adequately sourced. QPQ provided. However, I'm concerned about Braimah's notability: I made a search and from what I can tell, coverage about him appeared to either be routine coverage or more about Ghana Water itself than him. As such, I'm not sure if the coverage specifically about him that does exist is enough to meet the notability guidelines. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 22:09, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5 For anyone who is interested. — Maile (talk) 12:33, 13 June 2018 (UTC) Find sources: "Clifford Braimah" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference
Narutolovehinata5 and Maile66 Thanks for your reviews. I will leave the dyk above and its concerns to be addressed by other editors. CrossTempleJay 10:25, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 30[edit]

Ivan the Terrible and His Son Ivan

Damage to the painting in 1913
Damage to the painting in 1913

Created by Violetriga (talk). Self-nominated at 20:46, 30 May 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article was nominated the day it was created. It is long enough and well-sourced. It does not seem to be biased. The hook is concise, precise and interesting. QPQ done. It seems ready to go! I would appreciate if the article could be further expanded, however, as the topic is very interesting. Surtsicna (talk) 13:10, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
2018 vandalism damage
And there is plenty of source materiel in the very good articles on the painting in (inter alia) the Russian and French Wikipedias. Including, as an alternative image, this photo of the 2018 damage. (talk) 11:30, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
    • @Gatoclass: - I have been away for a while and this nom appears to have become orphaned? violet/riga [talk] 19:34, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
No, it's right there on the nominations page violetriga. It's just that nobody has responded to the issues raised yet. Gatoclass (talk) 02:22, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 1[edit]

Mining in Sweden

Created/expanded by Newroderick895 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:01, 10 June 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on June 2[edit]

Spygate (conspiracy theory)

  • ... that Spygate, a conspiracy theory developed and popularized by the United States president Donald Trump, appears to have no basis in fact? Source: [6][7][8]

Created/expanded by Starship.paint (talk) [9] and A loose noose (talk) [10]. Self-nominated at 02:14, 2 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg A full review may follow, but at the moment, I think the hook is too sensitive due to the political claims in it (this is both due to WP:BLP as well as the discretionary sanctions on US politics-related articles). Alternate hooks may need to be proposed here. @Starship.paint and A loose noose: Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:39, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

How about maybe this one? (a bit more neutral in its wording):

  • ...that the Spygate conspiracy theory holds that the Barrack Obama administration planted a spy inside Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign in order to assist Trump's political rival Hillary Clinton win the 2016 US presidential election?

(Anyone who clicks on the article link can read for themselves about how true or false the theory is.) A loose noose (talk) 16:43, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

That's way above the 200 character limit. Please try to make it shorter. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:19, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

I like it! (@Narutolovehinata5: Are there any steps that need to be taken to "re-initiate" this process, or is it still considered to be active at this point?) A loose noose (talk) 18:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Just wait, reviewers can get busy. It's considered active unless weeks have passed without replies from either the nominator or the reviewer (the previous reply here was just two days ago). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg With that said, conspiracy theories by their nature are usually publicly denied, so I'm not sure about ALT2. As this is a hook about a sensitive topic (US politics), I'm requesting a second review for hook appropriateness. As for the article itself, it meets all the technical requirements (newness, length, sourcing, hook verification, QPQ), but the topic itself needs more eyes here, and I admit that it might be tricky to formulate an appropriate hook here: suggestions from other editors are appreciated as well. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
  • New reviewer welcome :) starship.paint ~ KO 13:36, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
    • Meh. Looks like this has died in committee. A loose noose (talk) 06:26, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer still needed, with an ALT3 having been proposed. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:22, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 5[edit]

Sega Technical Institute

  • Comment: Article created from redirect on February 19, 2018 and promoted to GA on June 5. First DYK nomination for author.

Improved to Good Article status by Red Phoenix (talk). Self-nominated at 21:15, 5 June 2018 (UTC).

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Red XN - The sentence in the article that states the fact is uncited. I suggest adding the Retro Gamer article as a reference.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg See above. I prefer the original hook. Philroc (c) 23:16, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Philroc: Cited. Had not been cited before because I felt it was redundant, but inserted for the sake of DYK now. Red Phoenix talk 01:32, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

@Red Phoenix: Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. Philroc (c) 11:36, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
  • I don't like this suggested hook, personally. It just feels full of WP:EASTEREGG, and I don't think a hook should be full of Easter eggs - that just feels cheap. I really don't see what was wrong with the one selected; it's a common misconception that all of the Sonic games were developed in Japan by Sonic Team, when that isn't the case, and it's STI's most interesting fact. I mean, you guys tell me what's wrong with it since I've never had a DYK before, but I would find it an interesting hook. I seriously doubt anyone not interested in video games would click it either way. Red Phoenix talk 00:39, 20 June 2018 (UTC)


ALT2: ... that Mark Cerny's aim in establishing Sega Technical Institute was to create an elite game studio that would combine American and Japanese influences? Source: Day, Ashley (2007). "Company Profile: Sega Technical Institute". Retro Gamer. No. 36. Imagine Publishing. pp. 28–33. Philroc (c) 17:16, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Not bad, but it still feels more bland to me than ALT1. As it pertains to The Rambling Man's suggestion, I can fix the articles with issues if needed since my research has turned up some things about both games, but my opinion remains on the subject of it as a hook and what's "hooky". Red Phoenix talk 22:11, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 6[edit]

Grace Macurdy

Grace Macurdy in her classroom
Grace Macurdy in her classroom
  • ... that Grace Macurdy (pictured) was already losing her hearing when she became chair of Greek at Vassar in 1920, and she continued to teach, research, and travel until retirement in 1937 despite her deafness?

Improved to Good Article status by KateCook (talk). Nominated by Claire 75 (talk) at 12:55, 6 June 2018 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting life, good article on good sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed, but doesn't show anything in small size, - can it be cut? - The hook is ok, but doesn't say anything about her themes of research, so could be said about many persons in the condition, no? I took the liberty to link Vassar. - Suggestions for the article: Find a way to not repeat a book title, if you have several references to different pages. I use Harvard refs, but you can achieve it with named references as well. "bought into conflict"? "bought her into conflict"? "bought conflict"? I find the lead extremely short for a GA, can you summarize a bit? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:51, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the crop, Froggerlaura, that's much better! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:30, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
Kate. Claire, are you interested in improving? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:08, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 10[edit]

Jack Kirby

Jack Kirby by Susan Skaar
Jack Kirby by Susan Skaar
  • ... that Jack Kirby (pictured) created comic book characters including Captain America, the Avengers and the Black Panther? Source: " Punching Nazis was A-OK with the King – and 70 years on, critics of the alt-right have found powerful allies in Cap and his Jewish co-creator", "Kirby’s comics became superhero showcases, introducing a veritable who’s-who of characters on cinema screens today: Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, Ant-Man, the collective Avengers, Silver Surfer and the X-Men" ([11] "Created in 1966 by Lee and Kirby, Black Panther was revolutionary as the first African superhero in mainstream comics. Considered by Kirby as one of his most important creations for its message, T'Challa (Black Panther) was a black man with brawn, brains, wealth and advanced technology introduced in the middle of the civil rights movement." [12]

Improved to Good Article status by Tenebrae (talk) and Hiding (talk). Nominated by Hawkeye7 (talk) at 03:29, 10 June 2018 (UTC).


Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - Too unsurprising and so does not do the subject justice
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The article was very readable – well done! But the hook needs more of that pizzazz. I suggest ALT1, which follows. Andrew D. (talk) 21:04, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

  • ALT1 ... that Jack Kirby (pictured) created many famous comic book characters, such as the Avengers, but his conception of Spider-Man was rejected for being too heroic?
    @Tenebrae and Hiding: Could somebody have a look at re-phrasing to remove the close paraphrase? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 02:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
    • @Hawkeye7: um, you guys are aware they appear to have copied our article. They have a published date of 12 Feb 2012. Our article as at 13 November 2011. [13] Why would we need to change our article, shouldn't we be reporting them? Hiding T 09:52, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
      @Hiding: That's a good point. I checked the source used for the WW2 details (Ronin Ro) and this checks out as the actual origin and was written in 2004. Some tweaks to our account might be needed but they are no big deal. I reckon that we just need to agree a hook now. Andrew D. (talk) 12:21, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
      My sincerest apologies Hiding. I have seen this happen before. I have been busy and didn't check. I have another hook suggestion, combining the two:
  • ALT3: ... that Jack Kirby (pictured) created comic book characters including Captain America, the Avengers and the Black Panther, but his conception of Spider-Man was rejected for being too heroic?
    I doubt if comic book fans could readily agree what Kirby is most renowned for, but I figured that the Avengers and the Black Panther would be best known to the rest in the wake of the recent blockbuster movies. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 21:25, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Comment Don't have a concrete proposal for fixing it, but the selection of characters reeks of WP:RECENT and is not even entirely accurate. The choice of Black Panther is problematic, since before 2018 the character was more obscure than Iron Man was before 2008, still now is likely nowhere near as well-known as the latter, and while Kirby's role in the creation of Iron Man may be debatable, this is not the case with several other, arguably more long-term notable, characters like the Fantastic Four, who are not included. Furthermore, "the Avengers" is not a closed group of characters, and as of 2018 the characters most-associated with the name by the majority of our readers are probably the roster from the 2012 film, of whom the creation of two (Black Widow and Hawkeye) have nothing to do with Kirby but more with Don Heck, a third (Iron Man, definitely the best-known) is dubious as mentioned above, and a fourth (Captain America) is redundant as written. These problems probably need to be addressed because, precisely as a result of the recent success of films based on his work, Kirby himself has become an important topic of cultural history, and so accurate and due representation of his work, not cherry-picked based on what works were adapted into excellent and important films but which Kirby himself probably never regarded as anything more than day-to-day pay-check work, is important. Hijiri 88 (やや) 12:58, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
    There is no doubt that Kirby would regard Captain America as his greatest creation. It was his first major success, and sold a million copies a month for a time. As did the Boy Commandos, but they are not so well known today. He was very proud of the Black Panther, and returned to the character in the 1970s. Whereas the Fantastic Four was very influential in setting off Marvel's revival in the Silver Age, but was cancelled in 2015, and I don't know how well it is known today. I hadn't considered the Avengers roster in the movies; I was thinking of the original Avengers in the comic books. He created the team, and is always credited as its co-creator, and co-created all the characters in the original line up including Iron Man, and he drew the first eight issues before handing over to Don Heck. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
@Hawkeye7: There is no doubt that Kirby would regard Captain America as his greatest creation. I know that -- that's why if you read my comment carefully, Cap is the only one whose inclusion I didn't question -- I just said it was redundant with "the Avengers" if we are going by characters who are well known to the general non-comics-reading public in 2018. and co-created all the characters in the original line up including Iron Man Your mentioning Iron Man here highlights the problem -- why is he not listed, when he's probably more famous now than the entire rest of the original Avengers roster plus Black Panther combined? Yes, his role in the creation of Iron Man is more "dubious" than most others (he probably did little more than design the original in-costumed look of the character, which has hardly ever been used since except as a kind of rough preliminary costume designed by Stark while in captivity and quickly replaced after he escaped, as in the 2008 film), but even with Captain America and Black Panther he wasn't the sole creator of those characters (for whom credit is also conventionally given to Simon and Lee, respectively). As for I hadn't considered the Avengers roster in the movies; I was thinking of the original Avengers in the comic books and He was very proud of the Black Panther, and returned to the character in the 1970s, those contradict your explanation for not including the Fantastic Four, which is that they may not be as well-known today (relative to other characters) as they were when Kirby was still alive, which is due primarily to the very recent IP dispute between Fox and Disney-Marvel, with the former pumping out relatively cheap, underwhelming and severely undermarketed films for the sole purpose of keeping the rights from automatically reverting to the latter, and the latter deliberately cancelling the book so as not to promote a rival studio's films. Anyway, if the purpose of this DYK is to highlight our Jack Kirby article, and Kirby himself was really more associated with BP than FF, the latter would not be named 19 times in the article (excluding refs) while the former is only named three times. Hijiri 88 (やや) 00:18, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
BTW: The source's Kirby’s comics became superhero showcases, introducing a veritable who’s-who of characters on cinema screens today: Hulk, Thor, Iron Man, Ant-Man, the collective Avengers, Silver Surfer and the X-Men is actually totally wrong: Kirby was involved with the original X-Men, which was never popular and has little to do with the reason the characters are popular in film and television now (different roster, and he had apparently nothing to do with the creation of either Wolverine or Deadpool), Silver Surfer is not a popular film character, and claiming he created "the collective Avengers" is both redundant with the claim that he created Hulk, Thor, Iron Man and Ant-Man and not accurate if one considers "the collective Avengers" to be the ones who constitute "who’s-who of characters on cinema screens today" (the four named characters were clearly selected based on a cross-section of the "canon" Avengers roster in the films with the original Avengers from issue #1 in the comics), and the "Ant-Man" he created is not the one who is a popular film character today, having only appeared in one major motion picture released to date. Hijiri 88 (やや) 00:26, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 11[edit]

Serge Blanc (violinist)

Created by LouisAlain (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:43, 18 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Hmmm... little did I know "someone" noticed that article. Thanks Gerda, LouisAlain (talk) 18:52, 18 June 2018 (UTC) -->
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new and has enough length. QPQ check is also done. However, there are several issues which need to be addressed before taking it to DYK. There are issues with Plagiarism, NPOV and referencing.
  • Copyvio check shows 48% confidence, and violation is possible.
  • The sentence about the subject's death is unreferenced.
  • The lead needs significant expansion considering the article's body.
  • One of the citation has a bare URL.
  • NPOV issues; "exceptional age", stress on the subject's age at various points of achievements may be avoided – this seems to be pushing the point of view about the subject's achievements.
  • Most of the article is only about the subject's achievements, there is no info about his life, and any criticism.
  • I would also suggest adding an infobox.
Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 06:59, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for the review. I am only the nominator, but will do what I can, but have several things on my to-do-list before I can turn to him. I noticed that a different site had translated the same French to English, but to my knowledge LouisAlain didn't even know that. No surprise they often arrived at similar wording. For many of thesee historic musicians, we don't know much about personal life and reception, and they are remembered for their achievements. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Yes, I understand. If you'd like me to hold the nomination for some time, I'll be happy to do it. Let me know. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 16:20, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for your patience. Instead of working on this (and another one waiting, and writing the article I had planned for today), I faced a load of tags for a BLP I watch, and another load for an article featured on the Main page, sigh. Also had to nominate a venerated woman for DYK today or never, which I managed to do, but the article is not yet in the shape I want it to be. Tomorrow will be busy RL, so it will be later today or on Thursday (unless we have new problems). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:37, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Hopefully tomorrow, - at least I managed adding refs for another nom. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:03, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Making progress: ibox, more lead, more trimming, no bare url seen anymore. Will look for cite for death, must be somewhere. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:03, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
More tricky than I thought: while several sources have him still living, his website and IMSLP have the date. What should we do, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:19, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 13[edit]


Speaker iconFragment of a popular gosos

Created by Dk1919 Franking (talk) and Sam Sailor (talk). Nominated by Sam Sailor (talk) at 12:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Interesting subject, on good sources, offline and Italian sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. The hook is nothing spectacular, sorry. How about something about the many bans? - I would love more lead, answering some questions still open after reading: Are these songs still sung today (and if yes when, where, by whom), or just history? Where does drama come in? - I confess that I find (any) sound examples unattractive, even if licensed. - I understand gosos s a plural term, so would you say a gosos? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:23, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your always positive feedback, Gerda Arendt.
    The ultimate question you ask in regards to the word's use in English is best answered by looking at anglophone sources, of which there aren't a whole lot, but the this thesis by Kathleen Boyle uses a gosos, i.e. plurale tantum. In Catalan and Castilian singular forms exist. In Italian, the singular form would appear not to be in use, whereas this paper and this paper both use un gosos, i.e. plurale tantum. Perhaps Dk1919 Franking can comment on the use in Italian?
    I will expand the lead and get back here with an alternative hook; and your suggestions to an ALT would be warmly welcomed, needless to say. Sam Sailor 11:34, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, helped. - I can give you directions for a hook, but if I word one, we need another reviewer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:45, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 14[edit]

Hassan Tampuli

* ... that prior to heading the National Petroleum Authority, Hassan Tampuli once secured the release of a Lebanese-Ghanaian journalist from wrongful detention? Source: [15] and [16] Comment

Created by Crosstemplejay (talk). Self-nominated at 13:36, 14 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Doing...-Nizil (talk) 12:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
  • @Crosstemplejay:First, thank you for contributing to Wikipedia and taking interest in DYK. Your article is New, long enough and QPQ done. Few questions and issues: Why article is named Hassan when references states Alhassan? Article also uses Alhassan in the lead. Use his official/most common name as title and add 'also known as' in the lead to avoid confusion. Hook needs a verifiable reference. Ghana Gardian reference only says that "Hassan Tampuli was a Lawyer for Ghanaian-Lebanese journalist and author Fadi Daboussi, and a known NPP loyalist who was invited by the BNI for a defamatory comment made about former President, John Mahama." which does not imply wrongful detention. You need to add precise reference stating it was wrongful detention. In article, you have provided details about the case but it uses the same reference and the other reference is just "Google search result" which can not used as a reference when we can locate the precise information. So please provide the reference in the article so hook can be verified. ALT1 hook should have a reference clearly saying what is said in the hook. So it also needs a new reference. Article has some complex lines like: "As a lawyer, Tampuli took on many cases in which people's fundamental human rights have been infringed upon." which can be simply written like "As a lawyer, Tampuli took on many cases of the human rights violations." This line is not neutral, "As head of NPA, he has been leading the crusade for proper regulation of the petroleum industry in Ghana". Simply write what he is doing at NPA as in the reference, not "leading crusade". Some words like "spent time", "embarked" can be substituted with simple words like "worked at", "took". Check for small grammatical errors. Article can be better divided in following sections: Early life and education, Career/Legal career/Political and administrative career. Link alma mater in the infobox. Everything else looks good. Please ping me after you have addressed these issues. Thank you again for contributing to Wikipedia. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 14:29, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah: Thanks for the review. Very happy with the painstaking search you made. I have made major changes so please go through the article and let me know what you think. Thanks once again. CrossTempleJay 11:41, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg@Crosstemplejay:, thank you for improvements. I have also copyedited a little bit, changed section titles and removed repeated info on his education. Now article looks OK. Now suggest a new hook or change in hook with precise reference because suggested hooks are not clear from references you have provided. "Wrongful detention" is not mentioned in the reference you provided so reword appropriately. There is no other case of human right violation is mentioned and he was working in his capacity as a lawyer, I have to think about that label. Is there any source which mention him as a human rights activist? We can use it and make a new hook from ALT1. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 12:55, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah: Thanks for your review. I dont know whether you have a problem with the word wrongful because according to the article holding someone in cells for more than 48 hours is indeed wrongful and unconstitutional anyway I will suggest a new hook below. Thanks. CrossTempleJay 11:19, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
* ALT2: ... that Hassan Tampuli prior to heading the National Petroleum Authority, once secured the release of a Lebanese-Ghanaian pilot and author from unconstitutional detention? Source: [19] and [20] Comment
@Crosstemplejay:, I don't have problem with word 'wrongful' or 'unconstitutional' but these words are not mentioned in any reference so I have asked for such references. Even one ref said that it was not politically motivated. So we should not judge it as wrongful if we do not have such reference. Please add references which says he worked for cases of human rights violations because only one case is mentioned and no refs mention him as human rights lawyer. ALT2 should drop nationality of author to make it shorter. I am suggesting a new one below. Regards, -Nizil (talk) 14:24, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah: Thanks for your review. I have taken the bit about human rights activist out. I am cool with your ALT3 but I am modifying it a bit. Thanks once again. Now all that is left is for another review/reviewer. God bless.CrossTempleJay 13:09, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I am OK with your ALT3a. Now good to go. Thank you for solving out issues patiently and carefully. I appreciate your cooperation. Someone else should have a look and approval of hook. Regards, -Nizil (talk) 14:27, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 15[edit]

Telfair Hodgson

Telfair Hodgson
Telfair Hodgson

Created by Zigzig20s (talk). Self-nominated at 01:59, 17 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg The article is new enough and long enough. It is neutral, uses inline citations, and does not appear to violate copyright. The facts in the hook are cited, assuming good faith for the sources that require registration, and the QPQ is done. Gulumeemee (talk) 07:52, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg @Zigzig20s: Hello, I came to promote this, but the article is classified as a stub. Can this please be addressed? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:39, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
It's now a start, isn't it? If it's good enough for DYK, surely it's a start.Zigzig20s (talk) 10:41, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
@Zigzig20s: Per the discussion at WT:DYK, it seems that among possible suggestions for a hook were that he served as a chaplain or a priest after the Civil War. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:37, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
  1. ALTBLURB1: ...that Telfair Hodgson was the co-founder of The Sewanee Review?Zigzig20s (talk) 09:03, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

He wasn't the co-founder according to the supplied source. Allow me to suggest a tweak:

  • ALT2: ... that Telfair Hodgson was the original financial backer and first managing editor of The Sewanee Review, the oldest continuously published literary quarterly in the United States?

- Please note that the relevant facts will have to be added to the article. Also, the reference to Hodgson in the supplied source needs to point to the appropriate page, not to the entire article. Gatoclass (talk) 00:29, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Done and done.Zigzig20s (talk) 13:43, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed for ALT2 hook, including the new additions to the article. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:22, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Note: The Sewanee Review is tagged for COI. It probably should not be linked on the main page until that's cleared up. Yoninah (talk) 23:33, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
I don't see a COI in the edit history, do you? Shouldn't the tag be simply removed? The article is factual, could do with more RS but it is not the target article.Zigzig20s (talk) 10:51, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
It reads like a not-very-interesting resume. I suppose we could go with something like that if nobody can be bothered cleaning up the Sewanee Review article, but if so I'd like to see something a little more succinct. Gatoclass (talk) 23:16, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 16[edit]

Patliputra University

  • ... that ...Patliputra University was created by bifurcation of Magadh University? Source: "Patliputra University, carved out of Magadh University and headquartered in Patna, will have some of the best educational institutions in Patna under it." [21]
    • ALT1:... that ... over 150 professors applied for the post of vice–chancellor of Patliputra University? Source: "The Raj Bhavan’s advertisement for the posts of VC and pro-VC of the yet to be inaugurated Pataliputra University has elicited a very good response as 171 professors have so far applied for the twin jobs." [22]
  • Comment: QPQ is under process. Alternate hook suggestions are welcome.

Created by Ivecos (talk) and PratyushSinha101 (talk). Nominated by PratyushSinha101 (talk) at 10:10, 21 June 2018 (UTC).

  • @Narutolovehinata5: I thought bifurcation of university is unusual for rest of the world, or is it a common practice? Pratyush (talk) 15:00, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
It's relatively common, if not at least routine. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:00, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
ALT2:... that Patliputra University consists of more than 125 colleges including two engineering colleges, and a dozen pharmacy colleges? Source:[23]
@Narutolovehinata5:. Pratyush (talk) 16:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - ?
  • Other problems: Red XN - While the number of colleges (125) sounds I'm impressive, I'm not sure if this is particularly uncommon, especially with Indian universities.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The technical requirements are met, but a second review (ideally from someone with an interest in academics) is needed to check the hook interest for ALT2. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:29, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 17[edit]

Trump administration family separation policy

Children separated from family members detained in cages
Children separated from family members detained in cages
  • Comment: Note that there are a few other editors who've improved the article who maybe should be given DYK credit

Created/expanded by Carwil (talk), Pharos (talk), and Gandydancer (talk). Nominated by Volunteer Marek (talk) at 20:12, 18 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg All other issues aside (overlap with news and "proposal to split" tags are the most stringent) this article strikes me like it makes absolutely no effort to be NPOV or even to step out of the bubble. It's like none of the editors even bothered finding commentary from authors on the other side, like they did not even glance at a news or commentary source that will not endorse the "Trump is a monster" meme -- it appears largely modeled on the usual spiel from CNN and Vox. This even though conservative commentators have explained their POV at length and have openly expressed criticism of exactly the issues presented as facts in the articles -- for instance here, here or here (there are also conservative critiques of Trump's policy, btw: here or here or here). Under "Support", what we get are reactions from surrogates and cherrypicked, partly misquoted through partisan sources, statements made by the likes of Brian Kilmeade (who is apparently much more relevant than any other conservative who had stuff to say on the subject). Also note he WP:WEASEL in "[Kilmeade] tried to defend" -- you see, you can't defend Trump's policies, you can only "try to defend them, but we know better".
And incidentally: for this article to pass, it needs a fix in the footnotes, where various citations fail to identify the publisher. Dahn (talk) 05:22, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Also, the original hook is a highly contentious claim made during litigation. Are we really basing hooks on stuff said by lawyers defending their clients? (As for the ALT: I personally find it manipulative, since it implies that the policy of arresting adult illegal immigrants is necessarily wrong, and also because it won't tell us what 2,000 is compared to a standard -- the immigrant population, for instance. It's nothing but a poor attempt at sensationalism.) Dahn (talk) 05:28, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
  • Lastly, the "cages" in the picture appear to be standard fixtures of any detention facility. Implying that those are "cages" is simply mendacious. Dahn (talk) 05:30, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
  • @Dahn: It has been a few weeks since your review, and neither the nominator nor the co-creators have responded here. Have your concerns been addressed? If not, this will be failed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:10, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
    • Maybe other users would like to weigh in, but from my part the answer is no: the article is still biased, still overlaps with WP:NEWS (see masthead tag), and still has many unformatted refs; the hook and ALT are still objectionable. Dahn (talk) 18:09, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
@Carwil, Pharos, Gandydancer, and Volunteer Marek: Thoughts? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 21:37, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
This was a WP:IJUSTDONTLIKEIT non-constructive review. Fuck it.Volunteer Marek (talk) 01:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
(I mean, the major complaint appears to be that the article does not include a couple OPINION pieces from National Review and The Spectator that he happens to fancy. WTF?) Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:37, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Apparently this reviewer and the references that s/he offered know better than over 200 activists groups, every major religious and medical group, 17 states who have begun lawsuits, a Federal Judge, the ACLU, several international organizations, all four former first ladies, people who donated to a facebook page in an amount that topped anything previously, and such. BTW, this reviewer needs to refresh their knowledge regarding RS sites. Gandydancer (talk) 03:15, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
This reviewer has not asked for you to rewrite the article or to remove references, he has asked for you to include all relevant viewpoints, which is a cornerstone wikipedia policy, and to change the tone of the claims the article makes (per WP:WEASEL). He has also asked you to stop misrepresenting facts in hooks, and has suggested that using one side of a litigation issue as a source for DYK is an absurd precedent. And incidentally, yes: activist groups are always poor sources to use. It is also telling that the users think National Review should not be used as an RS (as opposed to Vox), and then they bring up IDONTLIKEIT -- they don't use sources they disagree with politically, but think my demand for toning down blatantly partisan claims, and citing more viewpoints in a dispute, should be treated as a matter of my personal bias. Dahn (talk) 04:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
The "tone" is from the sources - you just WP:IJUSTDONTLIKEIT what the sources say. The "relevant viewpoints" are represented in proportion to how they're represented in reliable sources - you just WP:IJUSTDONTLIKEIT what the sources say. And no, I didn't say that NR should not be used - it depends on the contexts and the nature of the piece. Yes, Vox (and it is indeed a higher quality source than NR) is used in the article, but not for opinion pieces and mostly just to cite non-controversial things, like quotes from Trump himself. On the other hand, you basically want us to include some rant somebody wrote for the NR. Sorry man, not how this works.Volunteer Marek (talk) 06:17, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
I'm sorry to inform you so late in your career as a wikipedian, but wikipedia is not journalism, and therefore does not parrot partisan positions taken by the sources; wikipedia has its own rules on how content should be written and structured, which means that it either tones down to a neutral or attributes positions, quoted in full. Beyond that, the proportion of opinions and content you dislike is now 100/0, and you consider this encyclopedic; again, I do not ask you to remove sources, I ask you to add, in proportion to its relevancy (i. e. not zero), from the other side of the argument, and to stop manipulating readers by introducing weasel words in how you render opinions you favor. Incidentally, everything on Vox is an opinion piece, since the organization proudly announces that it "explains the news" -- you can see opinion clearly in essays currently used as sources by the article, such as this one. That in itself is not a problem, as long as at least some commentary from the opposing side, including as just one example the prestigious (much more prestigious than Vox) NR, is at least given some exposure. The POV here is entrenched and glaring. Dahn (talk) 06:45, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
I re-read the article. There's certainly not a 100/0 POV split, and Dahn is clearly relying on the idea that unflattering factual statements are negative opinions, when they are in fact encyclopedic content. Yes, the section on "defense of the policy" is weak, but that's because even the policy's enactors and advocates seem split on the issue. With regard to opinions: Trump himself called family separation "horrible" and Sessions said, "We don’t want to separate families, but we don’t want families to come to the border illegally. This is just the way the world works."([26]). Yet, the article offers opinions from Trump, Sessions, Nielsen defending the policy. A challenging issue for NPOV is that numerous reliable sources report such statements accompanied by clear fact-checks that undermine the proponents' factual claims; we dutifully included those facts. A policy that even its supporters claim is horrible, and (falsely, fwiw) blame their political opponents for "forcing" them to enact it, is going to look unsupported.--Carwil (talk) 14:12, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
For the fifth time, I haven'r asked for anything to be removed from the article, I have asked for the presentation of facts to be rephrased with the removal of weasel words (such as the absurd "tried to defend", which suggests that you can't defend Trump, and as such takes a stand), and I have asked for more sources to be added where there are several interpretations of the supposed facts. I haven't even suggested that other interpretations take precedence over Vox and the like, just that they be mentioned, for Christ. I haven't even suggested that there's any info in the article that is unencyclopedic, I have noted that the tone and the unilateralism are not encyclopedic -- and in fact the entire article is written in glaring indifference to our core policies about tone and style. I stand by that and there is nothing in the above replies to even contradict me on that, just dancing around the point. Dahn (talk) 18:58, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 19[edit]

Joan Does Dynasty

Created by Juanitavid (talk) and Sam Sailor (talk). Nominated by Sam Sailor (talk) at 21:11, 24 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. QPQ done. I linked this article in Joan Braderman so it wouldn't be an orphan. I think the image is incorrectly licensed; shouldn't it be fair use? Please check on that. Regarding the hook, it's okay but it has a lot of blue links in it. It's also to be expected that a feminist commentator would give a feminist quote. I'm wondering if you could write something a little funnier in the spirit of Braderman's send-up of Dynasty? Yoninah (talk) 21:58, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: In preparation for the DYK nomination, I contacted article creator and uploader of the image on Commons on June 22 in c:Special:Permalink/307583809#Joan Does Dynasty, two days before nominating. I have not heard from them, but have posted on their talk page here. Looking at their contributions my assumption is that the image is correctly licensed. I'll try to think of a hookier hook. Sam Sailor 19:53, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 22[edit]

Take a Knee, My Ass (I Won't Take a Knee)

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 14:48, 22 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Full review to follow, but I don't think ALT0 is interesting to a broad audience. Perhaps more hooks could be suggested here? One suggestion could be one that plays on the song's title, another suggestion would tie it to it being written as a response to the anthem kneelings. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:41, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
  • On the contrary, the hook is humorous and interesting if you understand the context (NFL players protesting the American national anthem), which has received worldwide coverage. SounderBruce 07:05, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
I know, but while the NFL anthem protests are big news over in the United States, I'm not sure if it's the case elsewhere. Most people are vaguely aware of it I suppose, but I suppose that even as someone who follows the NFL, I don't really see how the "bringing people together" part is interesting, since I don't know if people can get the connection immediately. Like I said, I think one possible suggestion here is an alternate hook that makes the connection to the anthem protests explicit. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:07, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
Would respectfully request that you review the article instead. As Bruce notes, the humour and 'hookiness' is obvious. I would like to see this being run. Kingoflettuce (talk) 15:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

Hook eligiblity:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - n
  • Other problems: Red XN - As mentioned above, I really don't see how "bringing people together" is hooky at first glance. It makes sense if you understand the context, but even to those familiar with the anthem protests (such as myself) may not get it immediately, and in fact without the context, a song "bringing people together" is not really that interesting (especially since it's supposed to be a patriotic song, and patriotic songs are really intended to be like that).
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I have struck ALT0 per my previous comnments in this discussion. As my suggestion, I think the article title is itself very hooky and one suggestion I have is to work on a hook that ties in to that. Other possibilites include linking the song to the anthem protests (i.e. "DYK that the song TAKMY(IWTAK) was written in response to the NFL anthem protests?" or something to that effect), or even a hook that references the song's negative reception (this quote "(it) sounds, to the casual listener, like McCoy is ordering his own buttocks to drop to the ground and pay their ass-y respects" sounds funnier, actually). Or possibly even a hook saying that while McCoy wrote the song, he was sympathetic to the protests? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:09, 2 July 2018 (UTC)

  • Directly calling out its connection to the protests makes the hook lose its luster. Concealing it within the link could work:
  • As for the second bit, there is coverage of the grammatical failings of the title and it could be made into a hook like so:
The top option is somewhat better, but again I'm not really sure on it. Anti-protest songs do generally attempt to "bring people together" so it's not unusual. The second one is somewhat interesting, but the hook fact is not mentioned in the article.
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg We'll need to have a second review here on the appropriateness of the two new ALTs. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:25, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
The link to "unforeseen manner" is totally irrelevant IMO, and I don't find the hook very compelling even without it. The other hook looks okay to me. EEng, do you see any possibilities with this one? Gatoclass (talk) 08:08, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 23[edit]

Articles created/expanded on June 25[edit]

Embassy chapel

  • ... that chapels of the embassies of Bavaria, France, Sardinia and other Catholic nations in London provided religious services to persecuted English Catholics before Catholic emancipation? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that throughout history, Embassy chapels, protected by international law, have provided religious services in host countries to otherwise persecuted religions? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created/expanded by Eccekevin (talk). Self-nominated at 19:01, 29 June 2018 (UTC).

Saving Light

  • ALT1: ... that the song "Saving Light" by Gareth Emery and Standerwick was released as part of "Make Trance #1 Again", an initiative that encouraged fans to purchase the song on Beatport to support the anti-bullying charity Ditch the Label...?
  • ALT2: ... that the title of the song "Saving Light" by Gareth Emery and Standerwick refers to someone supporting a victim of bullying and abuse by being their "saving light"...?

Improved to Good Article status by MicroPowerpoint (talk). Self-nominated at 05:45, 25 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article was nominated on the day it was promoted to GA status. Earwigs gives a score of 62.1%, but this is because of a quotation that's adequately cited in the article. This is the nominator's first nomination so a QPQ is not required. The image in the article is allowed under fair use, and the article is stable. The proposed hook is approved (it's interesting, hooky, and properly cited), but I would also suggest to the nominator that they consider proposing other hooks that may appeal to those unfamiliar with trance music: one could be about that the proceeds of its digital sales would go to an anti-bullying charity, or that the song's title itself referrs to that anti-bullying campaign. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:07, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Added two ALTs, though they may need better wording. Micro (Talk) 09:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The hook was pulled from the main page shortly after going live per this discussion at WP:ERRORS. None of the hooks were considered hooky by the administrators. A new hook will have to be found. I am returning this to the noms page since it only spent 46 minutes on the main page. Yoninah (talk) 12:45, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: On the contrary, the discussion on WP:ERRORS actually suggested that ALT1 and ALT2 were very interesting; if anything, the issue was with the sourcing in the article. But considering trance music isn't exactly mainstream, I suppose we could give the benefit of the doubt when it comes to sources here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 14:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 26[edit]

Biblical criticism

  • ... that white male Protestants dominated the field of biblical criticism for over 200 years, but globalization and multiple new perspectives of the late 20th century permanently changed that? Source: several
  • Reviewed: Winchell's kingfisher
  • Comment: The reviewer, Farang Rak Tham, did an excellent job shaping the article, deserves credit.

Improved to Good Article status by Jenhawk777 (talk) and Farang Rak Tham (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:15, 27 June 2018 (UTC).

  • I usually try to make a reviewer's life easier by proposing ony one. This one is what we (author and nominator) agreed upon. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Honestly, I'm not really sure about this hook: biblical criticism is a very interesting field of study that I'm personally interested in: surely there are other things that can be said about it too, right? The reason I'm asking about the hook is because, while it's fine, there's plenty more that can be said on the subject. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:40, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Yes, but DYK is not about saying plenty. - Just look at Druet: a great helper worded plenty (which was a good compromise after arguing since February), and while on the Main page, they reduced it to one a little quirky aspect (and I wasn't around, so noticed only afterwards, but you were around). DYK is to make curious, with something that is correct. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi Narutolovehinata5! I was concerned about the whole "white guy" thing--but it is one of the many things about biblical criticism that most people don't realize--it started out among Protestants and stayed predominantly Protestant until recently. As far as I am concerned you can pick anything you'd like to say, but how about one of these for an alternate?
  • (alternate 1) ...biblical criticism has permanently altered understanding of the Bible?
  • (alternate 2) ...biblical criticism began as a historical discipline and has become a field of disciplines with often conflicting views? or
  • (alternate 3) ...biblical criticism began in Germany and has now spread throughout the world even into non-Christian religions?
Do you like any of these better? I am okay with whatever the rest of you agree on. Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:10, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5, Gerda Arendt, and Farang Rak Tham: Sorry--I realized after the fact I should have pinged you all. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
@Jenhawk777: I actually feel that the original hook is on the right track, but the description doesn't really give the field justice. These days biblical criticism (and indeed Christianity studies as a whole) now has input from varying fields, such as the various Christian denominations, and even from scholars who are Jewish, Muslim, and even irreligious. Describing that simply as "globalization and multiple new perspectives of the late 20th century" seems too simple and not really that attention-grabbing. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 20:49, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
That was actually Gerda's first response--she wanted more as well. What she ended up with--what's here--was Gerda doing her best to summarize the summary in the lead and make it usable. What you refer to is in the article--in more than one place--and as a DYK hook would be representative of the article. The problem--as I explained to Gerda then and explain to you now--is that it is more information than there is any possibility of including in a DYK hook. This is the third paragraph from the lead which is a summary of information in the article remember.
  • By the late twentieth century, scholars of different ethnicities, women, and those from the Jewish and Catholic traditions became prominent voices writing biblical criticism from new perspectives. Literary criticism changed understanding of method, goals, and philosophy. Globalization and academic disciplines like Near Eastern studies were impacting biblical criticism as well. Anthropology and sociology became the foundation of socio-scientific criticism. Psychology began making contributions to biblical criticism in areas of interpretation, definitions, the field of memory, cognitive science, and more. Post-modernism developed its own form of biblical criticism. Feminism developed its own theology of liberation, and post-critical interpretation began to question the role and function of biblical criticism altogether. For over two hundred years, white Protestant males were the dominant voices under the large umbrella of historical biblical criticism. Their work permanently altered views of the Bible. By 1990, biblical criticism had irrevocably changed from a single historical discipline to a field of disciplines with often conflicting views.
That could easily become the longest hook of all time. :-) But if you can figure out a way to pick and choose in a way that satisfies what you would like to see included, we will all listen to any suggestions you might have for accomplishing your goal. Jenhawk777 (talk) 02:42, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Being an outsider and not Christian, but having read the Gospels once, I thought it was interesting to read that they may be based on an older source text called "Q":

ALT4: ... that many scholars of Biblical criticism argue the gospels partly originate from an older text called "Q"?
Just my two cents.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 04:55, 13 July 2018 (UTC) Removed second instance of that.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 07:55, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
While an interesting hook to non-Christians, that hook is slightly inaccurate: only Matthew and Luke are argued to have used the hypothetical Q source. Mark (which most scholars believe came first) did not (and was argued to have been used as an additional source for both Matthew and Luke, hence the so-called "two-source hypothesis"), while John is believed to not have used Q at all due to having a vastly different Christology. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:46, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
I knew that, but I thought that the word partly covered that ...--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 12:19, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: I am distressed that we are at a standstill. I actually like alternate suggestion number two, which is about the results of the kinds of changes you mention that there isn't space to list separately. If you don't like it, the only alternative I can see is to lengthen Gerda's original suggestion or exclude the first part of it:
  • (alternate 5)that white male Protestants dominated the field of biblical criticism for over 200 years, but by 1990, globalization, multiple new perspectives, and other academic fields of discipline changed that?
  • (alternate 6)that globalization, other academic disciplines, feminism, ethnicity, Catholicism and Judaism have developed multiple new perspectives in Biblical criticism?
I don't really like alternate 6, but I did like Gerda's original suggestion--even if I was mildly concerned about the whole "white guy" thing. If alternate 5 isn't too long, does it reflect your concerns?
An alternative (7) is a combination of these:
  • that white male Protestants dominated the field of biblical criticism for over 200 years, but by 1990, globalization, feminism, ethnic scholars, Catholicism, Judaism, and other academic fields of discipline changed that? Jenhawk777 (talk) 17:05, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 27[edit]

Val Gagné, Ontario

  • ... that Val Gagné, Ontario, is named for the heroic efforts of its parish priest, Wilfred "Little Father" Gagné, who died along with most of the settlement's residents during the 1916 Matheson Fire?
    • ALT1:... that nearly every person in Val Gagné, Ontario, died in the 1916 Matheson Fire, and the settlement was renamed to honour the heroic efforts of the parish priest Wilfred "Little Father" Gagné?

Created/expanded by Magnolia677 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:57, 1 July 2018 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. - I don't need more than three refs for on fact ;) - I think ALT1 works better. - As I see five DYK credits for you, you need to complete a review of another nomination before this can be approved. Let me know if you need help with it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:12, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing. Please check the hook for spelling. (I see 2 things.) Facts being scattered are no problem, but uncited paragraphs are, and each part of the hook needs a citation right after the fact. - I believe that being a member of an organisation - without financial interests - such as a school, a choir, a charity organization is unproblematic. (I am a member of several choirs and dared to write about them, and their conductor and soloists, - where's conflict there?) - Generally: a review could be a bit more personal especially when missing things, - the other editor is a human being ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
I reviewed the other article myself now (in my mind), see nothing promotional, but several bare urls. Ref formatting should look different. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on June 30[edit]

Stuart W. Jamieson

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 16:31, 6 July 2018 (UTC).

Franz Schubert

Franz Schubert, 1825 watercolour
Franz Schubert, 1825 watercolour

Improved to Good Article status by Zingarese (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 18:50, 5 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Doing... Starting review now. Flibirigit (talk) 00:45, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg This appears to be the first DYK for User:Zingarese. Congrats on the GA status. According to Earwig, https://hymnary.org/person/Schubert_FP could be a violation, but that site clearly states that it is using Wikipedia as a source, so no conflict there. Also, according to Earwig, https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/arts/music/23composers.html?_r=1 could be a violation, but since the text in question is directly attributed to a quotation, there is no violation there either. All citations for the hook are located in the section "Last years and masterworks". Flibirigit (talk) 13:09, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


  1. In the sections, "Complete editions", "Deutsch catalogue", "Numbering issues", "Portrayal in film", and is it possible to add a citation?
  2. For the "Filmography" chart, I'm unsure on the sources.
Gerda Arendt, Zingarese, thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 00:59, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
As I recall those sections contain almost exact same content as the main articles linked to them; those are well sourced. Will addeess asap. ThxZingarese talk · contribs 03:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, a cut and paste of those references from one article to another would be sufficient. Flibirigit (talk) 03:16, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
@Flibirigit:  Added Also this is not my first DYK but my third. Zingarese talk · contribs 05:24, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, this looks good to go. Flibirigit (talk)

Jean-François Bony

Created by Redfiona99 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:23, 30 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Doing... review in process for nomination. Flibirigit (talk) 03:27, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg See discussion below Flibirigit (talk) 03:41, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Article was created and then expanded five times on May 18, 2018. It was subsequently expanded on June 6th, which is not within the seven days required for a DYK nomination. However, since it is the users first nomination, QPQ was not required, but one was completed anyhow. I ask for other reviewers to consider overlooking the lapse in nomination for this case.

I also recommend that the author insert Template:Infobox person for this article as well. Flibirigit (talk) 03:43, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Request a second opinion from @Yoninah:, regarding newness eligibility. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 03:47, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg @Flibirigit: this is not the nominator's first DYK; in fact, s/he has 6 DYK credits. We would normally IAR for a new nominator who nominates 3 weeks late, but this is not a new nominator. Closing as unsuccessful. Yoninah (talk) 09:11, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hold on. I just noticed a note on the talk page that the article was accepted at Articles for Creation on June 30. So it really was nominated on time. @Flibirigit: you can proceed with this review. I added an infobox, and also a "citation needed" tag for the birthdate. Yoninah (talk) 09:33, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
I have accepted the newness status as per Yoninah. Waiting for @Redfiona99: to respond to the citation concerns, and proceed with review. Flibirigit (talk) 13:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks to @EricEnfermero: for helping out with the article too. Would you be willing to help with the DYK? Flibirigit (talk) 13:21, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
I believe birth and death places should be in a separate sentence, and not within the bracketed dates. Flibirigit (talk) 13:21, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Agree. I fixed the lead and moved the cite down to the body text. Yoninah (talk) 14:10, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, @Yoninah:. I have noticed that Redfiona99 last edited any articles on June 30th. I hope this nonimation doesn't stall. Flibirigit (talk) 14:16, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle

  • Reviewed Ninjala I believe I have less than 5 main page DYKs so no QPQ was strictly necessary

Improved to Good Article status by Barkeep49 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:32, 30 June 2018 (UTC).

  • Would "travelogue" fit better than "travel log"? Raymie (tc) 21:51, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Raymie, I made the change in the hook. Here's a review:
  • Symbol question.svg GA icon received same day as DYK nomination. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. I question the use of publisher's websites as sources, as they are WP:PRIMARY; please remove Goodreads, Scholastic, HarperCollins Childrens, and any other promotional pages you're using as sources. Please tell me what kind of a source you're using for the second hook fact about the travelogue. QPQ done; thank you for that. Yoninah (talk) 01:01, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
@Yoninah: thanks for the review and copyedit. The hook is sourced from Jones, Douglas A. "The True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle." I have removed the goodreads sentence as non-essential and replaced the Scholastic source with School Library Journal. The remaining change is going to be more time intensive to do and given that no part of the hook is cited to to it (with ALA and the above source the citations for the two pieces ofinformation), can I ask under what DYK criteria these changes are requested? Thanks again and Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 02:20, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
  • @Barkeep49: well, first, if this is a GA, it should meet all Wikipedia standards, or it should be returned for reassessment. Similarly, since DYK hooks appear on the main page, we want them to meet the Wikipedia criteria, even if they are start-class articles. Thank you for removing the publisher's websites. If the remaining sources have no information cited to them, why can't you just remove them? In a DYK, not everything has to be cited; there just has to be a minimum of one citation per paragraph. Yoninah (talk) 19:27, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Sorry I wasn't clear about your request. What is left from your request for change in sources are citation for several less prominent awards (mainly children's statewide readers awards) which are nicely collected at the publisher's page. I am not willing to just take the information out of the article especially because it doesn't relate to the DYK hook. As both the reviewer of the article and I have around 25 GA reviews to our names neither of us are unfamiliar with GA criteria which is why I asked about the DYK criteria justification which I'm admittedly not as familiar with. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 20:12, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
  • @Barkeep49: oh, now I see what you're citing. Usually when I write an article and find a list of awards in a primary cite, I just search for them on Google with the winner's name and then I can provide an independent source for them. Are you able to do that for at least some of them? Yoninah (talk) 20:19, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
  • One from the Chicago Tribune and The Courier-Journal (Louisville, KY)Nova Crystallis (Talk) 05:16, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Old ALA awards are particularly hard to cite with online sources. The Children's list has a good source [27] (which can also cite the Globe award which I believe is also noted in another existing source). The best I could find for Young Adult was [28]. I haven't made serious efforts to track down individual citations for the other awards (except as noted below). I would however ask you to reconsider the larger point, first as a requirement beyond DYK and second as not actually running afoul of WP:PRIMARY. I could explain why but won't since I think the real issue is with HarperCollin's not being a WP:INDY/WP:RS source. I can likely track them down but they'll be no more Independent than the publisher. For instance [29] cites the Judy Lopez award but is obviously not independent of the award nor has any more editorial control (and as someone who has been in charge of a statewide children's choice reading award perhaps less) than Harper Collins. Is the effort to change the sources going to really improve the quality of those sources or would it just be a shuffling? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:53, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 1[edit]

Cuitláhuac García Jiménez

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 02:16, 3 July 2018 (UTC).

Pharmacist-to-pharmacy technician ratio

  • ... that the pharmacist-to-pharmacy technician ratio has generally increased as pharmacy technicians have become less like retail clerks and taken on more responsibilities? Source: "Initially, technicians had a very limited function, only serving as clerks or cashiers. Many states...maintained low pharmacist-to-technician ratios...However, technicians gradually began to take on additional responsibilities, including entering and filling prescriptions, reconstituting medications, and communicating with physician’s offices and insurance companies." (source)

Created by Biochemistry&Love (talk). Self-nominated at 16:28, 1 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 2[edit]

Kelly M. Quintanilla

  • ... that Kelly M. Quintanilla, the first female president of Texas A&M University–Corpus Christi, is a first-generation college student? Source: "she is the first female president of the university [...] In 1989, she became the first person in her family to attend university, graduating from the University of Pittsburgh as a first-generation college student.

" (source)

  • ALT1 ... that Kelly M. Quintanilla, the first female president of Texas A&M University–Corpus Christi, is the first person in her family to attend university? Source: "she is the first female president of the university [...] In 1989, she became the first person in her family to attend university, graduating from the University of Pittsburgh as a first-generation college student.

" (source)

Created by Originalmess (talk). Self-nominated at 04:24, 8 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Originalmess: Full review to follow, but a new hook may need to be proposed here, since many people (such as myself) probably don't know what "first-generation college student" means. Perhaps we can just focus on her being the first female president of Texas A&M Corpus Christi? That by itself is pretty hooky if you ask me. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:44, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I created an alt hook to clarify. Thanks, originalmesshow u doin that busta rhyme? 15:39, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately I don't think ALT1 is really that interesting either: remember that in the United States, as most people don't go to college, statistically being the first in the family to go to college is not really that unusual. Even within the United States and elsewhere, it's probably not uncommon. With that said, the suggestion, again, is to simply focus on her being the first female president of that university. That by itself seems attention-grabbing, more than her being the first in her family to go to college. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 20:51, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Hmmm I think the context makes it more interesting - it brings contrast. The combination is what makes it unusual; academia is hard to break into, especially for first-generation students who are 14% more likely not to graduate at all compared to traditional students. First-generation college students in the United States also are less likely to obtain postgrad degrees (as stated in the article) which are usually required for academia and administrative positions. This is relatively common knowledge in the US, so I apologize if it's not global enough, but I'm surprised it's not similar in other countries! Although our tuition rates are ... unique. Tl;dr First generation students often don't feel comfortable at universities; now she's running one. originalmesshow u doin that busta rhyme? 05:22, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
Still. It may be interesting to U.S. readers (who, to be fair, make up a significant portion of Wikipedia's readership), but it's less so for people from other countries, particularly developing ones. Remember that the U.S. is not the world, and what is common or rare in the U.S. may not be so elsewhere. As such, I'm afraid I have to reject ALT0. Please suggest other hooks here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:47, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 4[edit]

Sea Trader: Rise of Taipan

  • ... that one critic felt that Sea Trader: Rise of Taipan lacked "pizazz"? Source: "It's definitely possible to get lost in the "gameplay" of Sea Trader...just don't expect a whole lot of "pizazz" while you do." ([30])
    • ALT1:... that Sea Trader: Rise of Taipan is a shipping simulation game for the Game Boy Advance? Source: "Never in a million years would you expect to see a game like Sea Trader: Rise of Taipan on the Game Boy Advance. It's a shipping simulation set in the days of yore, when pirates and sea serpents roamed the oceans." ([31])
    • ALT2:... that players can bribe customs officials in Sea Trader: Rise of Taipan? Source: "Money also comes into play when buying rounds of drinks to get the bartender to tell juicy rumors of lucrative situations, or bribing customs officials to carry the less-legal, more expensive booty as well as buying maps to gain access to the other parts of the world." ([32])

Created by Nomader (talk). Self-nominated at 02:36, 4 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is neutral, meets the required length, and is sufficiently referenced. Article created on 4 July, the same day as this nomination. Hooks are all interesting and sourced; I prefer the main hook, but all are fine. QPQ done. This is good to go! – Rhain 13:26, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Returned from prep for further work on the hook. Yoninah (talk) 21:38, 17 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 5[edit]

Solid (web decentralization)

Created by Anachronist (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 5 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 7[edit]

Konstantin Petrovich Nechaev

  • ... that despite being accused by Leon Trotsky of supporting Chinese monarchism, Konstantin Petrovich Nechaev was portrayed favorably in a Soviet propaganda film? Source for being accused of supporting Chinese monarchism: [33]; source for being portrayed favorably in a Soviet propaganda film: Waldron, Arthur; Cull, Nicholas (1995). "'Modern Warfare in China in 1924–1925': Soviet film propaganda to support Chinese Militarist Zhang Zuolin". Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television. Abingdon-on-Thames: Routledge. 15 (3), pp. 407, 408 )

Created by Applodion (talk). Self-nominated at 19:53, 12 July 2018 (UTC).

Cloud Kingdoms

  • ... that the time limit in the puzzle game Cloud Kingdoms is calculated in Manukas? Source: Zzap!64, May 1990, "The game is played against a weird time limit, the clock starting at 99 Manukas")

Improved to Good Article status by Canadian Paul (talk). Self-nominated at 16:58, 7 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Canadian Paul: An explanation might be need to be added to the hook, to explain what "Manukas" are. That, or an alternate hook may need to be proposed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:02, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5:, my idea with the hook was that people would want to click the article to find out what a Manuka was, but I can see how that might be problematic given the way the hook is worded currently. Perhaps ALT 1: ... that the time limit in the puzzle game Cloud Kingdoms is calculated in a fictional measurement referred to as Manukas?" would be an improvement? Canadian Paul 13:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Article was promoted to GA status on July 7 and was nominated for DYK on the same day. Article is adequately sourced; hook fact for ALT1 is interesting and cited to an offline source so AGF accepted. Earwigs gives a 0.0% score. QPQ provided. However, the article has an inconsistency: the article lede states that all versions of the game received mixed reviews, but the Reception section instead says that reviews for the Amiga version were mostly positive. This inconsistency needs to be addressed before this is approved. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Oops, I changed the wording in the reception section for the GA review and forgot to do the same for the lead. I just updated the lead; is the new version any better? Canadian Paul 09:58, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Abraham Hatfield

  • ... that Abraham Hatfield was a sugar merchant who built a castle and solved a mystery about stamps? [34])
    • ALT1:... that Abraham Hatfield borrowed stamps from a congressman to solve a philatelic mystery? Source: [35]

5x expanded by Rising*From*Ashes (talk). Self-nominated at 07:11, 7 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article has been sufficiently expanded, is well referenced, copyvio is unlikely. No QPQ necessary, as the nominator has less than five DYKs so far. The hooks are interesting, but the sources and the article itself do not describe the case Hatfield solved as "mystery"; you either have to reword the article, provide another source, or reword the hooks. Applodion (talk) 19:42, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Feng Timo

  • ... that Feng Timo is a network hostess who has over 11 million fans on Douyu app and over 7 million fans on Sina Weibo?
  • ... that Feng Timo's song 《佛系少女》 has been so popular that it had been the Top 20 Hottest songs?

Created by Omega68537 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:05, 7 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Hostesses, plural.Moriori (talk) 00:45, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg This nomination has several issues that need to be addressed if this is to be approved. First, the article is only 1032 characters long, which is far below the 1500 character requirement. Second, the article has several unsourced statements. Finally, both hooks are too vague or common to be hooky or interesting to a broad audience. I will give the nominator time to work on the issues, but if they are not resolved within a reasonable amount of time, this nomination will be failed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:04, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 8[edit]

Iase Tushi

Created by LouisAragon (talk). Self-nominated at 01:09, 16 July 2018 (UTC).

Brett Cantor

  • Reviewed: Butyrolactol A
  • Comment: As the hook suggests, I have an anniversary date in mind for this one again: July 30, the 25th anniversary of the killing.

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 02:29, 12 July 2018 (UTC).

@Narutolovehinata5: I don't know how you could get much better than the New York Times article I used. (And the point of the hook was that the defense was allowed to review the case file, not that they used it during trial). Daniel Case (talk) 15:04, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Such is Life: The Troubled Times of Ben Cousins

Created by HappyWaldo (talk). Self-nominated at 03:15, 8 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 9[edit]

Enrique Alfaro Ramírez

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 00:52, 11 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Raymie: Do you have any suggestions for alternate hooks? Because quitting a party shortly after being elected, while interesting, is fairly commonplace. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:10, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
  • True, party switching is common in Mexico, but this was within days after the election. One half of the hook might still work on its own: Raymie (tc) 18:54, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Governor-elect of Jalisco Enrique Alfaro Ramírez was the first winning gubernatorial candidate to come from the Movimiento Ciudadano party?

William Chong Wong

Created by Zanhe (talk). Self-nominated at 23:55, 9 July 2018 (UTC).

Carlos Hermosillo Arteaga

Created by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 18:53, 9 July 2018 (UTC).

Beautiful in White

Converted from a redirect by Beyoncetan 2 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:22, 9 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 10[edit]

Harold Spitznagel

Created by Runner1928 (talk). Nominated by Paul2520 (talk) at 02:58, 17 July 2018 (UTC).


  • ... that, in one fragmentary mythological account, the Mesopotamian warrior-god Ninurta was defeated by a giant turtle sent by the god Enki? Source: "The myth of Ninurta and the Turtle, recorded in UET 6/1 2, is a fragment of what was originally a much longer literary composition.[39] In it, after defeating the Anzû, Ninurta is honored by Enki in Eridu.[3][39] Ninurta has brought back a chicklet from the Anzû, for which Enki praises him.[3] Ninurta, however, hungry for power and even greater accolades, "set[s] his sights on the whole world.[3] Enki senses his thoughts and creates a giant turtle, which he releases behind Ninurta and which bites the hero's ankle.[3][39] As they struggle, the turtle digs a pit with its claws, which both of them fall into.[3][39] Enki gloats over Ninurta's defeat.[39] The end of the story is missing;[40][3] the last legible portion of the account is a lamentation from Ninurta's mother Ninmah, who seems to be considering finding a substitute for her son.[39] According to Charles Penglase, in this account, Enki is clearly intended as the hero and his successful foiling of Ninurta's plot to seize power for himself is intended as a demonstration of Enki's supreme wisdom and cunning.[39]"
    • ALT1:... that Ninurta, the Mesopotamian god of hunting, is believed by many scholars to be the source of the biblical figure Nimrod? Source: "Despite this, Ninurta was never completely forgotten.[5][3] Most scholars agree that Ninurta was probably the inspiration for the biblical figure Nimrod, mentioned in Genesis 10:8-12 as a "mighty hunter".[45][43][47][48] Though it is still not entirely clear how the name Ninurta became Nimrod in Hebrew,[43] the two figures bear mostly the same functions and attributes[46] and Ninurta is currently regarded as the most plausible etymology for Nimrod's name.[43][5][3] The city of Kalhu is specifically referenced in association with Nimrod in Genesis 10:11-12, where it is described as a "great city".[3] Eventually, the ruins of the city of Kalhu itself became known in Arabic as Namrūd because of its association with Ninurta.[5][3]"

Improved to Good Article status by Katolophyromai (talk). Self-nominated at 00:03, 17 July 2018 (UTC).

John Davy Rolleston

5x expansion from 10 July. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:02, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 16:58, 12 July 2018 (UTC).

Matthias Rauchmiller

Matthias Rauchmiller's clay model (1681) for the statue of St John of Nepomuk which was placed Charles Bridge in Prague in 1683. Its iconography (bearded priest leaning to one side, wearing biretta, holding crucifix, haloed by five stars) became the archetype for later representations of this saint.
Matthias Rauchmiller's clay model (1681) for the statue of St John of Nepomuk which was placed Charles Bridge in Prague in 1683. Its iconography (bearded priest leaning to one side, wearing biretta, holding crucifix, haloed by five stars) became the archetype for later representations of this saint.
  • ... that a butcher's son named Matthias Rauchmiller designed both the Plague Monument in Vienna, and the oldest statue on Prague's Charles Bridge? Source: Information from NDB article about Rauchmiller, cited in article
    • ALT1:... that the 1683 statue of St. John Nepomuk on Prague's Charles Bridge, which inspired depictions of the saint into the 19th century, is based on a small clay model by Matthias Rauchmiller? (Quote from the source, Prague's National Gallery: "This rarely preserved bozzetto was the precursor to the representation of the bearded priest-canon with a biretta on his head, dressed in a cassock, surplice and almuce over his shoulders. The Viennese sculptor slightly emphasized the contrapposto of the small figure with narrow shoulders, crowned by the martyr’s head inclined to one side, with the saint’s left hand embracing the crucifix as if in a gesture protecting the dead Saviour. In this small statuette of a foreign origin, and its enlarged form on Charles Bridge, the main type of St John of Nepomuk’s figure was constituted, subsequently repeated in a number of others, deep into the 19th century."[38]

Created by HouseOfChange (talk). Self-nominated at 11:37, 11 July 2018 (UTC).

Old North Building

  • ... that Old North, built in 1795, is the oldest standing academic building on Georgetown University's campus? Source: "The Old North Building is the oldest remaining building academic on the Georgetown University campus." (source)

Created by Ergo Sum (talk). Self-nominated at 18:24, 11 July 2018 (UTC).

Ybor Stadium

  • Reviewed: IOU

Created by Blackguard SF (talk) and Muboshgu (talk). Nominated by Muboshgu (talk) at 17:46, 11 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg File was created within the last seven days, is over the required prose length and has no copyvio issues. Hook is supported by a reliable, inline source. Once the user adds a QPQ review, this will be good to go. Kosack (talk) 13:59, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 11[edit]

John Joseph Merlin

John Joseph Merlin, 1781
John Joseph Merlin, 1781
  • ... that John Joseph Merlin appeared in Hyde-park in January 1803 in a carriage without horses, powered by a windlass? Source: "In January 1803, Merlin made what may have been his last public appearance, when a newspaper reported that he had 'appeared in Hyde-park on Sunday last, in a carriage without horses, and attracted universal notice. He kept the vehicle in motion by means of a windlass...'" Debenham, 2014
    • ALT1:... that John Joseph Merlin was the most striking Character of 900 masqueraders in 1778 in a wheelchair he designed? Source: "An extract from a newspaper report of a Masquerade Ball at the Pantheon, identified by the author, illustrates Merlin's penchant for self-promotion. ‘The company, about 900 in number, consisted of a more equal and agreeable mixture than usual, of Characters and Dominos: the most striking of the former, were, Mr. Merlin, the mechanic, as a gouty gentleman, in a chair of his own construction, which, by a transverse direction of two winches, he wheeled about himself, with great facility to any part of the room … ' 4 March 1778" Debenham, 2014
    • ALT2:... that John Joseph Merlin crashed into a mirror at Carlisle House while playing the violin on roller skates that he invented? Source: "One of his ingenious novelties was a pair of skaites contrived to run on wheels. Supplied with these and a violin, he mixed in the motley group of one of Mrs Cowleys' masquerades at Carlisle House; when not having provided the means of retarding his velocity, or commanding its direction, he impelled himself against a mirror of more than five hundred pounds value, dashed it to atoms, broke his instrument to pieces and wounded himself most severely." Highfill, 1984

5x expanded by Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk). Self-nominated at 23:24, 15 July 2018 (UTC).

Leander Dendoncker

  • ... that Belgian World Cup player Leander Dendoncker is the son of pig farmers? Source: [39] "Originaire de Passendaele, le fin fond de la Flandre Occidentale, où ses parents sont éleveurs de cochons, Leander Dedoncker a vécu très jeune loin de sa famille" - "Originally from Passendale, in deepest West Flanders, where his parents are pig farmers, Leander Dendoncker has lived far from his family from a young age".
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by Harambe Walks (talk). Self-nominated at 23:45, 11 July 2018 (UTC).

Paper car wheel

Allen Paper Car Wheel Company
Allen Paper Car Wheel Company
  • ... that paper car wheels provided a quiet and smooth ride in Pullman dining and sleeping cars? Source: Ken Cupery: "paper wheels were not immediately accepted, but eventually became standard equipment on Pullman cars ... to provide a quieter and smoother ride than conventional cast iron wheels."
    • ALT1:... that the use of paper car wheels resulted in a quiet and smooth ride in Pullman dining and sleeping cars?
    • ALT2:... that paper car wheels brought quiet elegance to Pullman dining and sleeping cars? Source: John H. Lienhard: "Allen's paper wheel was just the thing to bring quiet elegance to Pullman's dining and sleeping cars."

Created by NearEMPTiness (talk). Self-nominated at 08:33, 12 July 2018 (UTC).

Scott Smith (ice hockey)

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 02:21, 12 July 2018 (UTC).

Prague uprising

Expanded to GA by Catrìona (talk). Self-nominated at 01:04, 11 July 2018 (UTC).

Dharma Bum Temple

Dharma Bum Temple Service with guest speaker Thanissaro Bhikkhu
Dharma Bum Temple Service with guest speaker Thanissaro Bhikkhu
Pledge class of Delta Beta Tau at SDSU sitting in meditation
Pledge class of Delta Beta Tau at SDSU sitting in meditation
  • ... that the local Buddhist temple, Dharma Bum Temple, launched a fundraiser to buy the Swedenborgian Church in San Diego that raised $490,000 in three and a half months? Source: "The nonprofit had about $7,000 in its bank account, and 108 days to raise about $490,000. On Valentine’s Day, the 108th day of the fundraiser, the final $3,000 donations came in to make their goal. More last-minute donations gave them $7,000 to spare." (Source: San Diego Union Tribune, Febuary 15, 2017)
  • ALT1:... that Dharma Bum Temple helped organize the first Buddhist college fraternity in the United States, Delta Beta Tau, at San Diego State University? Source: "Jeff Zlotnik, co-founder of the Dharma Bum Temple, which leads the weekly meditation, thought why not start a fraternity at San Diego State - Delta Beta Tau." (Source: Country's first Buddhist fraternity sits at SDSU, ABC 10 News)
  • Reviewed: While I am credited on several articles with DYK credit according to the DYK bot, per [40] these were merely articles I contributed to. This is my first actual DYK nomination.
  • Comment: I'd like to note that the images added to the page (except for the logo) were all added after the article was promoted to GA status because there wasn't any free images available until a few days ago. Not sure if that effects anything for DYK but just disclosing this. Also, if the ALT is preferred then the bottom photo to go with it is preferred.

Improved to Good Article status by Wikiman5676 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:25, 14 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 12[edit]

Procerodes littoralis

  • ... that the flatworm Procerodes littoralis is tolerant of wide fluctuations in salinity and occurs in bays and estuaries, and where freshwater streams flow across the beach?

Created/expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 18:24, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg - @Cwmhiraeth: The length of the article is good, it is within policy, and has been recently created. QPQ review has also been completed. The problem is, the hook quite honestly seems to tail off at the end; maybe cut the last part and replace it with something else? Maybe, instead of "and occurs...", say ", being able to survive in sea water and fresh water?" This later part is from the paper "The environmental effects of salinity and temperature on the oxygen consumption and total body osmolality of the marine flatworm Procerodes littoralis", and the sentence "These authors showed that P. littoralis was exceptionally tolerant of any short-term salinity change ranging from completely freshwater to undiluted seawater." I can email you the full text of the paper, if you want (email me first). RileyBugz私に叫ぼう私の編集 23:39, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
The article also happens to include its preferred habitat, probably among other interesting things. RileyBugz私に叫ぼう私の編集 23:44, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Reginald Wilenski

  • ... that despite never completing his bachelor's degree, R. H. Wilenski was appointed lecturer in the history of art at the University of Manchester?
    • ALT1:... that ...?

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 17:12, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Elizabeth Kekaʻaniau

Elizabeth Kekaʻaniau, c. 1870
Elizabeth Kekaʻaniau, c. 1870

Source: Elizabeth Keka'ani'au [sic] recognized her role as an Ali'i and cared for her people.29 Because she was the last survivor of of the Ali'i who attended the Royal School, [41]

  • Reviewed: Malacañang of the North
  • Comment: Please use the image in promotion or use a cropped version. And if possible wait until September 11 to promote because it is her birthday.

Improved to Good Article status by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 15:18, 12 July 2018 (UTC).

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on July 13[edit]

Donald Trump baby balloon

At Parliament Square on 13 July 2018
At Parliament Square on 13 July 2018

Converted from a redirect by Pigsonthewing (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 10:00, 18 July 2018 (UTC).

  • There's a close-up image available: File:Trump Baby Balloon.jpg (although it's currently, and rather bogusly, nominated for deletion - well worth a quick read). If that won't suffice I'd be happy to crop this one for you, Gerda. nagualdesign 23:35, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Please crop (on the right and on top), - I want to show the parliament and people, or would have to say how big it is. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:06, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
Found a cropped version, using that for the moment. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:14, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Sara Hershkowitz

  • ... that Sara Hershkowitz, who usually appears on the opera stage as The Queen of the Night and Zerbinetta, performed Ligeti's Mysteries of the Macabre for a crowd of 15,000 as "Donald Gepopo"? Source: [42] Donald Gepopo / Mit Ligeti gegen Trump: die amerikanische Sopranistin Sara Hershkowitz über Freiheit, Humor und Protest auf der Bühne (Donald Gepopo / With Ligeti against Trump: the American soprano Sara Hershkowitz about freedom, humour and protest on stage) - [43] "I'm not trying to give a message, or pretend I have answers about what to do about the hot steaming mess that is our president," she said. "But my job is to hold up a mirror. To dazzle, illuminate."
  • Reviewed: Safavid Georgia
  • Comment: We can say it more precisely, of course.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:44, 13 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 14[edit]

Articles created/expanded on July 15[edit]

Jack Sumner

  • ... that Grand Canyon explorer Jack Sumner castrated himself?

    Sources: (1) "Alone and despondent that evening, Sumner pulled out his knife, which he had honed to razor sharpness, then dropped his pants and calmly castrated himself." [44] (2) "All we know for sure is that Jack Sumner, standing there quite alone, took out his knife, and took down his pants, and castrated himself." [45]

Moved to mainspace by Tryptofish (talk). Self-nominated at 23:44, 17 July 2018 (UTC).

Djajadiningrat family

Created by [[User:|User:]] ([[User talk:|talk]]). Nominated by AnakPejuangIndonesia (talk) at 03:34, 16 July 2018 (UTC).


King Kamehameha V in 1850
King Kamehameha V in 1850
  • ...that Keanolani was possibly the illegitimate daughter of King Kamehameha V (pictured) who died in 1872 without naming an heir to the throne?
    • ALT1:...that Keanolani was allegedly born from the illegitimate union of two Hawaiian royal students at the Royal School?

Created by KAVEBEAR (talk). Self-nominated at 06:15, 16 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 16[edit]

Neocalanus plumchrus

  • ... that Neocalanus plumchrus adults die after they have finished reproducing? Source: "Following the reproductive period, both adults die at depth, with males decreasing in number prior to females, inferring a prompt death subsequent to fertilization." – [46]

Created by RileyBugz (talk). Self-nominated at 23:54, 19 July 2018 (UTC).


  • ... that the Sol-20 was "the first complete small computer under $1,000"? Source: see text, from their otiginal ads

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 18:17, 16 July 2018 (UTC).


  • ... that flying fox teeth are used as currency in the Solomon Islands? Source: "Traditional currencies on Makira are shell money, dolphin teeth, and canines of flying foxes and domestic dogs." Lavery & Tyrone 2017

Improved to Good Article status by Enwebb (talk). Self-nominated at 22:22, 17 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article was promoted to GA status within the last seven days, is more than long enough and has no copyvio issues. The Solomon Islands don't seem to be directly mentioned in the article in regards to the hook though, maybe include them after Makira to indicate what nation the island is part of? User is exempt from a QPQ review as this is their second nomination. Kosack (talk) 18:12, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Good catch! I have revised the article to reflect that Makira is part of the Solomon Islands. Enwebb (talk) 19:02, 18 July 2018 (UTC)

Rie Murakawa

5x expanded by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:30, 16 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 17[edit]

Windscale Piles

The Windscale Piles (centre and right) in 1985
The Windscale Piles (centre and right) in 1985
  • ... that the chimneys of the Windscale Piles (pictured) were topped with "Cockcroft's Folly"? Source: "Because they were last-minute additions, the filters were placed atop the two 360ft (110m) tall chimneys rather than at the base. They were roundly criticised by the engineers building the nuclear facility. Engineers, who had been told by the government to make the UK a nuclear power by 1952, nicknamed the filters Cockcroft's Follies, mocking them as an expensive piece of pointless delay." (and [48])

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:29, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Torrance Barrens

Torrance Barrens
Torrance Barrens

Created by P199 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:35, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Wang Family Compound

Created by Muzzleflash (talk). Self-nominated at 16:10, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Technological University Dublin

Created by Bogger (talk). Self-nominated at 17:13, 17 July 2018 (UTC).

Brugada syndrome

  • ... that Brugada syndrome, known as Bangungut in the Phillipines, is the commonest cause of sudden death in South Asian young men with otherwise normal hearts? Source: It is worth noting that Asians have known about the condition for many decades. In the Philippines it was known as Bangungut (scream followed by sudden death during sleep)... ...Indeed, this syndrome is the most common cause of sudden death in individuals younger than 50 in South Asia with no underlying cardiac disease. Reference Brugada et al. 1999 PMID:11225790
    • ALT1:... that Brugada syndrome is known in the Phillipines as Bangungut, meaning a scream followed by sudden death during sleep? Source: It is worth noting that Asians have known about the condition for many decades. In the Philippines it was known as Bangungut (scream followed by sudden death during sleep)... ...Indeed, this syndrome is the most common cause of sudden death in individuals younger than 50 in South Asia with no underlying cardiac disease. Reference Brugada et al. 1999 PMID:11225790

Improved to Good Article status by PeaBrainC (talk). Self-nominated at 15:11, 17 July 2018 (UTC).

Aya Hirano

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hinulugang Taktak
  • Comment: If possible, I would like to request a special occasion hook for her birthday on October 8, but if this is not accepted, I would instead request for an alternative special date request on August 31, the date of an important plot point in the Endless Eight arc of the Haruhi Suzumiya series.

Improved to Good Article status by Juhachi (talk), Narutolovehinata5 (talk), and AngusWOOF (talk). Nominated by Narutolovehinata5 (talk) at 13:30, 17 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 18[edit]


Mauricio Kagel in 1985
Mauricio Kagel in 1985
  • Reviewed: Dafydd Gibbons
  • Comment: best on Bach's day of death, 28 July

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:09, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Chang and Eng Bunker

  • Reviewed: Rantzen v Mirror Group Newspapers (1986) Ltd and others
  • Comment: Using DYK check on this revision shows 5147 characters. Five-times expansion from this needs over 20,000 characters; the article currently hovers around 30,000. But if you include the lists in the Legacy and Descendants sections, it works out to around 8000 characters, which would need 40,000 after expansion. If the current length doesn't work for DYK then I'll just withdraw the nomination.

5x expanded by Hameltion (talk). Self-nominated at 18:51, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on July 19[edit]

Bratislava Working Group

Rabbi Weissmandel and his colleagues in the Working Group were not aware of the strange coincidences that caused Wisliceny to reduce the pressure for a while. They tended to believe that their proposal to Wisliceny and the bribes paid to the local hierarchy were what prevented the continued deportations. Based on this assumption, Weissmandel hatched the idea of expanding the “small plan”—aimed only at saving the lives of Slovakia’s Jews—to halt deportations all over Europe by offering bribes and promising legal aid at the end of the war. ... Wisliceny presented the proposal to Eichmann in Berlin. The latter promised to relay it to Himmler. In November 1942 Wisliceny informed the Working Group that Himmler had agreed to the proposal and that he had been entrusted with the task of negotiating with representatives of Slovakian Jewry. He named his price: three million dollars in return for halting deportations from western, southern, and southeastern Europe to extermination camps in Poland.

  • For the location of the Working Group in Axis-aligned Slovakia and its illegality, [51]

5x expanded by Catrìona (talk). Self-nominated at 22:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Badr Shirvani

Created by LouisAragon (talk). Self-nominated at 22:51, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Gerd Hatje

  • ... that Gerd Hatje learned typesetting, and founded a publishing house in 1945 which still carries his name, internationally known for books on contemporary art and architecture? Source: several
  • Reviewed: Gustaf Gabriel Hällström
  • Comment: His day of death is 24 July. Some of his works are auctioned at Christie's today to then.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 16:11, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Mary Fenton, Kavasji Palanji Khatau

  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Nizil Shah (talk). Self-nominated at 13:39, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

Vampyr (video game)

  • ... that the video game Vampyr can be completed without drinking the blood of the innocent? Source

Improved to Good Article status by Cognissonance (talk). Self-nominated at 10:27, 19 July 2018 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article has recently been promoted to good article status, it is long enough, and the hook is great. I do see a tiny little problem, but not enough to hold up the DYK: you cite PlayStation Blog. The content, though, seems to have multiple citations, so I think you can just remove the reference and be good. Otherwise, absolutely no problems. RileyBugz私に叫ぼう私の編集 06:10, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
  • @RileyBugz: Thanks for the review. The hook comes from the sentence "It is possible to finish the game without killing citizens", which cites VG247. Cognissonance (talk) 07:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on July 20[edit]

Liebe und Eifersucht

Hoffmann (self-portrait)
Hoffmann (self-portrait)

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:36, 20 July 2018 (UTC).

Sycamore Gap Tree

Sycamore Gap Tree
Sycamore Gap Tree
  • ... that the Sycamore Gap Tree (pictured) narrowly escaped destruction by a helicopter that crashed whilst carrying TV gardener Alan Titchmarsh? "In 2003, celebrity TV gardener and author Alan Titchmarsh narrowly escaped injury when the low-flying helicopter he was travelling in crashed into the ground metres from the tree." Carlisle News and Star
    • ALT1:... that the Sycamore Gap Tree (pictured) was featured in Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves and is commonly known as the "Robin Hood Tree"? "The 1991 film ‘Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves’, starring Kevin Costner, was filmed here. The tree has been known as The Robin Hood Tree ever since." European Tree of the Year Awards
    • ALT2:... that the Sycamore Gap Tree (pictured) has been shown in a Hollywood blockbuster, a Bryan Adams music video and a TV crime drama? "Nowadays, the tree has become something of a star. Most notably as the scene-stealer in Robin Hood Prince of Thieves starring Kevin Costner, TV series Vera starring Brenda Blethyn and Robson Green’s More Tales from Northumberland. National Trust "The tree also featured in the video to the soundtrack song, (Everything I Do) I Do It For You by Bryan Adams" Carlisle News and Star

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:50, 20 July 2018 (UTC).

Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 preferred. Interesting tree personality, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and almost a must! - I added pictured 3 times. Please check the article and find a few replacements for "featured". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:21, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

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