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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
December 26 1
January 7 1
January 10 1
January 14 1
January 16 2
January 26 1
January 28 1
January 29 1
January 30 4
February 1 1
February 2 1
February 5 2
February 6 2
February 7 5
February 8 3
February 9 1 1
February 10 2
February 13 1
February 15 9 6
February 16 5 5
February 17 5 2
February 18 13 9
February 19 16 12
February 20 10 8
February 21 17 13
February 22 15 10
February 23 11 8
February 24 16 10
February 25 16 12
February 26 21 12
February 27 15 10
February 28 12 6
March 1 7 4
March 2 19 14
March 3 10 6
March 4 9 5
March 5 20 8
March 6 12
March 7 2 1
Total 291 162
Last updated 11:31, 7 March 2021 UTC
Current time is 11:31, 7 March 2021 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Shortcut

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.

How to review a nomination[edit]

Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

Backlogged?[edit]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]


Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on December 26[edit]

Epsom College in Malaysia

Fernandes in 2011
Fernandes in 2011

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 20:02, 10 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The overall article is new enough and long enough. Regarding neutrality, the first paragraph of Origins feels unencyclopaedic in tone. The Scholarships sentence on a pupil being offered scholarships also feels out of place. On citations, I am wary of expatgo.com, and would prefer to hook from another source. On hooks, ALT0 is currently lacking, but I can see it working with a bit of expansion. ALT1 is hooky if you know who the two individuals are, but would not be otherwise. The sources seem to abbreviate it to ECiM not ECM. CMD (talk) 12:17, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
Chipmunkdavis: “Regarding neutrality, the first paragraph of Origins feels unencyclopaedic in tone.” It has two sentences. The first of those is strictly factual and seems to me to give the critical fact in the section. The second is about the motivation of Fernandes, based on the source. If there is anything there you find not neutrally written, do please say exactly what it is, and I’ll see how I can improve it. “The Scholarships sentence on a pupil being offered scholarships also feels out of place.” It is an achievement of the school as well as the pupil. Where would you prefer to put that? “On citations, I am wary of expatgo.com...” Expatgo is a publisher in Kuala Lumpur which has been publishing Expat magazine there since 1996, now employing about twenty journalists and editors. Do please say what your objection to it is. “On hooks, ALT0 is currently lacking, but I can see it working with a bit of expansion.” What is it lacking, please, and what would you want to add to it? “ALT1 is hooky if you know who the two individuals are, but would not be otherwise.” Most DYK hooks are about people and topics the world has never heard of, and there is no DYK rule that hooks can only mention famous people. But have you really not heard of Boris Johnson? “The sources seem to abbreviate it to ECiM not ECM”. The school, yes, but not the ECM Libra Foundation, which is not the same thing, see ecmlibrafoundation.com. Moonraker (talk) 00:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Strictly factual text can be unencyclopaedic in tone, and what is not neutral is the tone of those sentences. They're very promotional, perhaps magazine-like. The scholarships information is also promotionally written, is it needed on the page? Have the expatgo journalists done journalism elsewhere? What is the reputation of the magazine, and/or its credentials? Both hooks are short and rely on name recognition. The source used says "ECiM Libra Foundation co-founder Dato’ Lim Kian Onn...". CMD (talk) 01:57, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
Chipmunkdavis You say Strictly factual text can be unencyclopaedic in tone, and what is not neutral is the tone of those sentences. They're very promotional, perhaps magazine-like. You are entitled to your personal opinion, but in this context please say which element(s) you object to and what conflicts you see with a policy on tone and/or neutrality. The scholarships information is also promotionally written... Again, this is your personal opinion. I have not the slightest interest in promoting anything, the text is simply reflecting the contents of the best source available. ...is it needed on the page? Yes, some information on scholarships is clearly needed for a fee-paying school which can accept non-fee-paying students. Leaving that out would seriously affect the neutrality of the page. Have the expatgo journalists done journalism elsewhere? I have not the slightest idea. What is the reputation of the magazine, and/or its credentials? I can find nothing which casts any doubt on its good reputation. If you want to discredit it, that is surely up to you. Both hooks are short... They are a good length. There is a DYK limit on the length of hooks, but not on shortness. ...and rely on name recognition. I do not agree at all, and even if they did there would be no rule against that. The source used says "ECiM Libra Foundation co-founder Dato’ Lim Kian Onn...". So it does. Clearly both are used, life is like that, not neat and tidy. I have edited “ECM” to “ECiM”. Moonraker (talk) 03:09, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
As a sample element, "the brainchild of Tony Fernandes" is a positive spin lifted directly from the source used. The next sentence is similar, and I can't see what information it really adds to the first sentence. On scholarships, it is a common practice for fee-taking international schools in Southeast Asia to provide scholarships to local students, and so one instance feels unremarkable. CMD (talk) 10:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis As a sample element, "the brainchild of Tony Fernandes" is a positive spin lifted directly from the source used. You can’t have it both ways, either it is “lifted directly” or else it is “positive spin”. It is indeed lifted directly and is offered as the main hook, which you haven’t objected to, except to claim without any policy support that it isn’t long enough. The next sentence is similar, and I can't see what information it really adds to the first sentence. Not the least bit similar, but to humour you I have taken it out. On scholarships, it is a common practice for fee-taking international schools in Southeast Asia to provide scholarships to local students... It is indeed, but not universal, and the information is needed. ... and so one instance feels unremarkable. There is no policy which insists on everything in an article being remarkable. It has not struck you that 100 per cent scholarships are very unusual, but no matter. I have to say, I am not finding you constructive. If you are feeling so negative, why don’t you start an AfD to try to get the page deleted? Moonraker (talk) 02:51, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand that both ways comparison, if you're suggesting magazines cannot spin things positively I will have to disagree. The relevant hook policy is 2.1, interesting to a broad audience. A hook lifted directly from a source also seems an issue for Article 3.3 though, on close paraphrasing. As for deletion, I don't see where the notability of the page has been called into question. Is there an issue there? CMD (talk) 03:25, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis I thought you were trying to say it was “positive spin” by me. If you are saying it is “positive spin” by the magazine, I am completely at a loss to see what you mean. The word “brainchild” is simply an Anglo-Saxon form of “conception”. The magazine is saying Fernandes conceived the school in his mind. Other sources say he put a lot of money into it. Where on earth is the “spin” in that, what is being “spun”, and in what way is it too “positive”? You say the relevant policy is interesting to a broad audience, are you now saying that that hook is not interesting enough? If you are, you did not say it to begin with, you had other feeble objections then. ...an issue for Article 3.3 though, on close paraphrasing: no, “the brainchild of Tony Fernandes” is not paraphrased at all, it is a quotation. I am adding ALT0a to make that clearer. Looking over all of the above, you are clutching at a whole series of straws to find reasons to oppose the nomination, and looking for new ones when your first ideas do not hold water. Moonraker (talk) 06:43, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

The initial feeble straws remain the current feeble straws, although some have been dealt with and the copyright issue is new. There is no general preference for opposing nominations. If quotations are used they should be presented as quotations per WP:NFCCP, although the reliance on name recognition remains. On the topic of spin, the magazine is written in WP:NEWSSTYLE, and the article should not imitate that. On another initial comment, reading into the various sources in the scholarship section, they actually discuss the same scholarships, and so I am happy to c/e myself from the sources to maintain the information you feel needs mentioning. CMD (talk) 07:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis, I am glad you agree your objections are feeble. If you mean quotation marks should be added, you could have said that a long time ago and didn’t. I do not see any need but have added them as it is such a trivial point. It is quite normal for magazine articles to be written in NEWSSTYLE, and the article plainly does not "imitate" that, that is just subjective rubbish plucked out of the air. I do not understand your last sentence. You seem to be here only to play games, and I suggest you should bow out. Moonraker (talk) 05:14, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

The article copied the magazine almost word for word. That is beyond imitation. The objections remain, however you may feel about them. CMD (talk) 05:30, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis, that’s plainly not so. The article has two short quotations from the Expatgo article, which were there when you made your first comments, and you didn’t object to them. There is no “imitation” of NEWSSTYLE or anything else. Your nit-picking is the most extreme I have seen from a DYK reviewer in ten years, and that is what remains. When one nit-pick fails to hold water, you look for another. Moonraker (talk) 05:59, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

As I have already stated, aside from the issue of lifting some text from the source the other items were all mentioned in my initial response. CMD (talk) 06:02, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis, that expression “lifting some text from the source” is a weird turn of phrase to mean “quotation”, and it is helpful in showing just how hostile you are to something here, I don’t know what. At least you accept that it is a new nit-pick you have added. I see no point in repeating anything said above. If you are not going to bow out, we now need an experienced DYK contributor to look over the thread. Perhaps BlueMoonset can spare the time for it? Moonraker (talk) 06:21, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

Any updates on this? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:58, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Hello Narutolovehinata5, the situation does not appear to have changed. CMD (talk) 14:17, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Given that it appears that this nomination has reached a deadlock and the nominator and reviewer cannot come to an agreement, I would suggest that a new reviewer take a look here. If the issues remain unaddressed within a reasonable time frame the nomination may need to be closed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:24, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Blimey! Basic points such as length already covered & some of the review points now dealt with. Others remain, & most of the sources read like PR people dictating to journalists, but the school only opened last year. I think all 3 hooks pass, but ALT1 is probably best. Really the lead is much too short & the whole thing should be merged into say 4 sections. But I'll call it GTG. Johnbod (talk) 01:07, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg Hi there. Just a few concerns about this nomination. ALT0 and ALT0a are derived from an ExpatGo article, and there's note at the bottom of that article indicating that it's a press release from Epsom College. Therefore, it likely counts as a primary (WP:PRIMARY) and non-independent (WP:NIS) source. ALT1 is sourced to an HMC blog post and an Epsom College press release, both of which I would consider primary and non-independent for similar reasons. Edge3 (talk) 18:42, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Edge3, on Expatgo, I do not see what you see, except that there are contact details for the school. The article may or may not be based on a press release, but I imagine it was kicked off by one. Expatgo has journalists and editors and is a reliable source. I agree that oeclub.org is a primary source. You could call HMC a kind of trade association, but it is reliable on facts. I have checked out HMC and Heidi Salmons, and she was its Communications Manager at the time this was posted. If we were talking about notability, some of these sources could not be counted towards that, but even a primary source can be relied on to cite facts. Moonraker (talk) 20:56, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 7[edit]

Usmani family of Deoband

  • Comment: Since this is my first try for DYK, please allow me to improve things in between. I would really appreciate your advises. Thanks. ─ The Aafī (talk) 19:17, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Created by TheAafi (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 7 January 2021 (UTC).

  • This is more of a comment but right now none of the proposed hooks may appeal to an international audience except perhaps for some variant of ALT5. Would it be possible to write a hook that would be understood and interesting even to people outside of Pakistan who may not be familiar with any of the names or events mentioned in the article? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:37, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
    • Narutolovehinata5, I guess yes. I'll take some time for this. I know that ALT5 only can make a way out, but I was waiting for a review. Allow me some time. ─ The Aafī (talk) 05:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Are you able to finish a review? @TheAafi: Do you need help or clarification? I'm not sure if you were able to work on your hooks. Let your reviewer know if you need help. Edge3 (talk) 04:19, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
As I noted above, I wouldn't be able to do a full review of this due to a lack of time; however I'm willing to help out with sorting out any hook and hook interest issues. I see that the nominator suggested a new hook below, but the hoisting-the-flag angle will need to have some additional context for non-Pakistani readers. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:05, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, Do you think, for example, if we say, Shabbir Ahmad Usmani and Zafar Ahmad Usmani, Islamic scholars from the Deoband India based Usmani family of Deoband hoisted the flags of Pakistan in 1947 in Karachi and Dhaka respectively? Or something so. I'd try to fix it. I don't understand how I can provide a more better context for non-Pakistani readers? ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 06:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
I'm really not sure but I'm leaning towards against. Maybe Edge3 has some ideas? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
I think the main issue here is that non-Pakistani readers won't be able to get exactly what this "flag raising" thing is all about and why it was important. The context is missing, the hook would be fine otherwise. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5 how's this then? ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 10:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
At 192 characters, it's a bit on the upper end of an allowed hook length and could still be shortened if possible, but among the directions proposed so far this is perhaps the most promising. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5 Thanks for the heads up. I guess I won't be able to shorten it, if yes, we could remove the "Islamic scholars" thing. Helpful? I'm on mobile and I feel hard to write here. If it is more promising than all the earlier tries, may you approve this now with slight modifications on your own? Thanks. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 10:43, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
I haven't had time to conduct a full review, but another reviewer might. Edge3 (talk) 16:21, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
    • ALT6:... that four members of the Usmani family of Deoband were co-founders of Darul Uloom Deoband, where the Deobandi movement began? (adaptation of ALT3). Narutolovehinata5, whether or not you have heard of it, the Deobandi movement is very well known in many parts of the world outside Pakistan, & should be the key to the hook imo. Haven't checked if the refs given above support the added bit. Johnbod (talk) 03:31, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Is there a way to rephrase ALT6? The current version feels a bit repetitive wording-wise. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:52, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
@Johnbod:, looks fine to me. The sourcing is offline and Urdu-based, I'd request AGF. Among those four are, Fazlur Rahman Usmani, Zulfiqar Ali Deobandi, the father of Mahmud Hasan Deobandi, Nehal Ahmad, the brother-in-law of Muhammad Qasim Nanautawi and Mehtab Ali, the uncle of Mahmud Hasan Deobandi. Everything such is also individually referenced in the article as well. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 06:05, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Johnbod, university is a bad idea for it, it is better called a seminary. So I propose it as:

References

  1. ^ Iqbal Hasan Khān, Shaykh al-Hind Mawlāna Mahmūd Hasan: Hayāt awr Ilmi Kārnāme, Aligarh Muslim University, p. 116
  2. ^ Muhammad Tayyib, Qari. Bukhari, Akbar Shah (ed.). 50 Misaali Shaksiyaat [50 Exemplar personalities] (in Urdu) (July 1999 ed.). pp. 58–59.
  3. ^ Muhammad Miyan Deobandi, Ulama-e-Haqq Aur Unke Mujahidana Karname, 1, pp. 22–23
  4. ^ Iqbal Hasan Khān, Shaykh al-Hind Mawlāna Mahmūd Hasan: Hayāt awr Ilmi Kārnāme, Aligarh Muslim University, p. 116
  5. ^ Muhammad Tayyib, Qari. Bukhari, Akbar Shah (ed.). 50 Misaali Shaksiyaat [50 Exemplar personalities] (in Urdu) (July 1999 ed.). pp. 58–59.
  6. ^ Muhammad Miyan Deobandi, Ulama-e-Haqq Aur Unke Mujahidana Karname, 1, pp. 22–23
  7. ^ Mehdi, Jameel (ed.). "Atiqur Rahman Usmani (1901-1984)". Mufakkir-e-Millat Number, Burhan (November 1987 ed.). Delhi: Nadwatul Musannifeen. pp. 506–507.
  8. ^ https://dailytimes.com.pk/324380/asia-bibi-pakistanis-need-to-bridge-the-mister-mulla-divide/
  9. ^ https://dailytimes.com.pk/324380/asia-bibi-pakistanis-need-to-bridge-the-mister-mulla-divide/

Articles created/expanded on January 10[edit]

Everard F. Aguilar

  • ... that stamp dealer Everard F. Aguilar proposed that the Jamaican Post Office issue stamps to mark the death of James Bond creator Ian Fleming but the idea was not accepted?
  • Reviewed: Dog & Bull
  • Comment: Still working on it. Part of the career section was copied from Philip Saunders but there is sufficient new material for a new DYK

Created by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 15:58, 17 January 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - ?
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg ALT0 is fine, and has an online citation ("Between the devil and the deep blue sea") in the text. However there are minor issues. 1. Regarding the language and citation of ALT1: its language is unclear to me. I had to read the article and the citation ("Between the Devil") to work out that it meant that Aguilar had contributed one of the chapters in the book which was written by Fleming. On re-reading ALT1, yes the hook does say that, but it's not clear at first glance. It just needs to be clearer and simpler. 2. Also, ALT1 is not written out in the same way in the text with its citation next to it, so if ALT1 is to have a chance, you must do that. 3. The phrase, "third and youngest son" rings the plagiarism bell (re The Daily Gleaner: "Mr Everard Aguilar dies") - OK no-one would sue WP for that, but to get it through DYK you need to rephrase it. 4. QPQ pending. Apart from those minor issues, which are easily remedied, this is a nice article, and I thank you for this. I like the way that you make his difficult personality clear, while keeping the article neutral - I think all the best biogs are like that. Keep up the good work! Storye book (talk) 15:40, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I am looking into the Fleming connection and will expand on it shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 19:45, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the QPQ; I've adjusted the review accordingly. I've also struck out point 1, regarding the clarity of ALT1 - I think I was being too picky. I look forward to seeing the other issues resolved - that should be quite straightforward. Storye book (talk) 09:51, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Placing a hold on this nomination until Philafrenzy completes their review at Template:Did you know nominations/Dele Fadele; that QPQ was assigned to a nomination of theirs that has been promoted despite being incomplete. Once that review is done, this can be promoted, but not until. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:56, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
BlueMoonset Philafrenzy continued the review and the nominator is working on fixing the issues. I think it might be considered complete enough now. SL93 (talk) 08:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
  • This review is not resolved yet, and it would be good to complete this one. Issue 2 could be resolved quickly if ALT1 is struck out and we just use ALT0. Issue 3 is very minor indeed, and could be resolved by rephrasing or deleting "third and youngest son" - or "third son"/"youngest son" would do. Philafrenzy? Storye book (talk) 10:28, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
  • No worries. I was just attempting to remind the nominator and to make things as easy as possible for them. Storye book (talk) 11:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
  • It shall have my attention shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 15:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 14[edit]

Turkey and the Holocaust

  • ... that Turkey has used Holocaust commemoration to deny both the Armenian Genocide and antisemitism in Turkey? Source: Quotes from Turkish officials: "In our history, there does not exist any genocide." "Turkish society has always been away from anti-Semitic feelings [sic], has never shown any feelings of anti-Semitism and xenophobia. Our people has [sic] always embraced their Jewish brothers." https://doi.org/10.1111%2Fsocf.12521
    Analysis by Baer: Beginning in 2014, Turkish Jewish community leaders have been joined in their annual Holocaust commemoration by high-ranking Turkish officials who have used the occasion each year to promote the image of Turks as rescuers of Jews, from 1492 through to World War II. Playing the part of Jewish savior against the tide of genocide, the Turkish government can vaunt its pride and claim never to have engaged in such historical crimes, thereby denying, sometimes obliquely, sometimes explicitly, the annihilation of the Ottoman Armenians. — Baer 2020 p. 207
    "A second theme, unique to the Turkish case, is the determination to deny the Armenian genocide by acknowledging the Holocaust." https://pen.org/professional-ethics-and-the-denial-of-armenian-genocide/

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 18:06, 14 January 2021 (UTC).

  • buidhe This does not look like a neutral hook. Many hooks can be made on this article that are both interesting and neutral.VR talk 03:43, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • There is no requirement for hooks to follow NPOV. See WP:DYKRULES. It is factual and sourced to RS which is what matters. (t · c) buidhe 03:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • If you go to WP:DYKRULES and look under "Content", it says The hook should be neutral.VR talk 04:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • How is it non-neutral? It is just a fact. One that doesn't reflect well on Turkey, but many hooks don't reflect well on their subjects and have always been allowed on DYK. (t · c) buidhe 04:10, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Now that's a tricky one. I understand the NPOV concern and believe Vice regent is right about pointing to the DYK rules; but on the other hand after reading the article I believe the statement in the hook is correct, Turkey seems to do that (at least according to the sources in the article). So I would personally have difficulties wording the hook another way to present Turkey in a better light. @Vice regent could you maybe think of an example alternate hook that would satisfy NPOV for you? (Caveat: I am really not an expert on the subject, just a random Wikipedian chiming in.) --LordPeterII (talk) 15:27, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
  • My previous hooks have often portrayed various institutions, people, or countries in a negative light. Just a few examples,
    • "that memorial director Jens-Christian Wagner blames Alternative for Germany for the increase in heckling at former Nazi concentration camps in recent years?"[1]
    • "that in September 2019, far-right politician Milan Mazurek became the first Slovak parliamentarian to lose his seat due to a crime after comparing Romani children to "animals in the zoo"?"[2]
    • "that after the Greek Civil War, 20,000 leftists were exiled to Gyaros (pictured), dubbed "Dachau of the Mediterranean"?"[3]
    • "... that the European Commission of Human Rights found in 1969 that the Greek junta systematically tortured dissidents, leading to Greece's exit from the Council of Europe?"[4]
    • " ... that the Israeli Nazis and Nazi Collaborators (Punishment) Law was intended to punish Holocaust survivors rather than Holocaust perpetrators?"[5]
    • "that death squad commander Otto Ohlendorf claimed that the extermination of 90,000 Jewish men, women, and children was a justified act of self-defense?"[6]
  • Generally, the only negative hooks that were rejected were for BLP reasons. I don't really see NPOV as something that occurs in isolation for one fact or sentence, rather for an article as a whole, but I proposed hook ALT0 as I found it the most interesting element of the article. (t · c) buidhe 18:16, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

buidhe and LordPeterII How about something that actually discusses Turkey's WWII policies and considers both sides of the story:

  • Alt1: ... that during World War II Turkey helped thousands of European Jews escape the Holocaust even as it enacted a law that discriminated against Turkish Jews?
    • This is interesting because it shows the contradicting nature of Turkish policies. It also shows the good and the bad that Turkey did to Jews during WWII.
    • Source: "In November 1942, the [Turkish] government introduced a Property Tax (Varlιk Vergisi) ...[which effectively discriminated against Jews]. Meanwhile, and quite paradoxically, Turkish intervention saved many thousands of eastern European Jews from the Holocaust, by aiding their clandestine immigration into Palestine. There thus seems to have been a complete disconnect between internal and external policies. William Hale (professor), Turkish Foreign Policy since 1774, page 67VR talk 17:54, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
      • Not suitable, as I explained on talk, "saved" is not a WP:IMPARTIAL way to characterize giving a limited number of transit visas. Nor is it particularly interesting or unusual because that also Spain's policy at the same time was not dissimilar, although in the spanish case the laws discriminating against non-Catholics were passed before wwii. (t · c) buidhe 18:17, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I have trouble understanding buidhe's comments. 1. The word "saved" only applies to the indicated "saved" people. So the fact that it is a "limited number" is not an issue - the number is indicated. There is no statement that all were saved. 2. The fact that Spain - not a Muslim country - had a similar approach does not as buidhe suggests make it not "particularly interesting or unusual". 2603:7000:2143:8500:6960:9DFE:CAD2:CC8E (talk) 19:16, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • If you read other books that focus on this topic, such as Tuvia Friling's Arrows in the Dark, you would find that all of these transits were organized and paid for not by Turkey but by Jewish organizations, who faced many restrictions in their work. Furthermore, if you are going to contrast the transit visa issue with another Turkish policy, surely it would be denaturalization. (t · c) buidhe 19:23, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Okay, now Vice regent your suggestion is problematic in the exact opposite direction: If buidhe's original hook shows Turkey in a negative light, yours show it in a very positive. I mean, if they enacted laws to discriminate against Jews, but then saved lots anyway, surely the law was more of a farce? (At least it sounds like that imo.)
More importantly, ALT1 does contradict the article, as both the lede and the history section quite explicitly state that Turkey did not actively seek to rescue/save Jews, and rather let them pass through at best. There are notable examples, sure, but your hook would suggest it was a general and official rescue scheme. Especially this part of the lede, "Turkey and parts of the Turkish Jewish community have promoted exaggerated claims of rescuing Jews", is such a sentence as it directly contradicts the message of ALT1.
I understand that this is a delicate topic, and I admit that I do not have nearly enough knowledge about it (or time to acquire it) to weigh in on the neutrality discussion about the article itself. My argumentation thus will revolve solely around the eligibility of hooks for the current article.
Going back to the original hook ALT0, I must say that I am convinced by buidhe's point that they had previously gotten hooks approved that are quite critical - not unlike ALT0. Now I have previously made the mistake of invoking WP:OSE, but I do not believe this is the case here: If the DYK rules allowed several hooks to be approved that were critical extremely of Greece and Israel, why would a hook critical of Turkey be disallowed?
So in conclusion, while I value the discussion and still agree that we must be careful not to break NPOV, I do not think that this is actually the case with ALT0. Instead, ALT1 is unsuitable because it contradicts the article (in its current form). Maybe you two will want to discuss the neutrality of the article itself first (and I see at least one uninvolved editor has weighed in there), and then this DYK discussion can resume once we know what the hook should be compared against. --LordPeterII (talk) 11:36, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 16[edit]

March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 14:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Red XN - Sorry, I don't find anything particularly hook-y about this being Addie MS's first march. I don't think most readers will know who he is, and I'm not really sure what it means that this is his first march.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Sources accepted in good faith since I can't read Indonesian and am not familiar enough with the media landscape there to judge their reliability. Earwig turns up no violation. Neutrality seems fine, although a glance from someone familiar with Indonesian politics couldn't hurt. The main issue is just interestingness, as we want a hook that'll actually entice people to click through to the article. Reading it over, the most interesting factoid to me was that the previous march was retired after being unused due to constant mocking by activists. I'd suggest adding a little more information on that and then using it as the basis for the hook. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:26, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

ALT1 ... that the March of the Indonesian National Armed Forces was adopted after the previous march was retired due to mocking and parodying by activists?
How does this sound? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:15, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5, the nominator is on a wikibreak (enforced by a self-requested block), so someone else may need to step up to get this on the main page. I'd like to see more contextual information on the page itself, since currently it doesn't say why or how the previous song was mocked, and if we're using this as a hook we should allow people who click through to learn that. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
I've left a message at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indonesia asking for help. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:19, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5 and Sdkb: Really sorry to both of you; I forgot that I have a DYK review left open! I've unblocked myself for this occasion, and I searched for another source. I found a really interesting article from Kompas (I could send it to you if you want) and added some more text and information from the source. It turns out that the retirement of the march due to mocking was just an allegation from the author and was not the official stance of the armed forces. I also found the sheet music of the song, but it is quite blurry and I can't see anything. Probably someone who is expert in music could recognize the musical symbols immediately. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:07, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Where does the nomination stand now? SL93 (talk) 08:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Dele Fadele

Created by Ceoil (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 18 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Beginning Review
  • Article is new enough and long enough.
  • Hook is correctly formatted.
  • Should "extensive" pieces be "long" or "detailed"?
  • extensive is fine. Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • This sentence seems confused: "He was gregarious in life; according to Andrew Collins, in the 1990s Fadele arrived at the NME office each morning from a squat, but was always "absolutely impassioned"."
  • Hopefully clearer now. Ceoil (talk) 00:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • New Order need disambiguating.
  • Could you add anything about his early life? The article seems to start when he is already in his 30s.
  • Yup, hand on....Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Well referenced and neutral. Long book may as well be put with the other sources as it is only used once (needs a page number).
  • Long book mereged into the inlines. Its on google books, but seems to be a kindle version...ie doesn't give a page nr. Ceoil (talk) 00:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Hook fact needs a ref immediately after (I added CN in the place)
  • Sorted....Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Is it true that Morrissey's career "never really recovered"? Not according to our article on him.
  • His credibility never recovered, and has continued to sink since, especially since Brexit. But agree, this is not the article for that. Removed. Ceoil (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Awaiting QPQ.

Will finish later. Philafrenzy (talk) 10:17, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

  • Thanks Phil...I see you took care of a lot of these yourself. Will comb through and sort the remainder, and come back after a QPQ. Ceoil (talk) 20:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Philafrenzy, the QPQ has been provided. Please return to complete your review, since you have already claimed QPQ credit for it on an article that has since been promoted. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:41, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Continuing review. Not sure about Nigerian-English in the hook. He was born in Highbury, London, and spent his career in England too. I would call him Black British or just drop his nationality/ethnicity from the hook entirely as it doesn't add much. What about saying that the death of NME music critic (or journalist) Dele Fadele wasn't well-known for more than two years after the event? Could be stronger if you could say it wasn't known to his own colleagues for two years? Only Earwig matches are quotes and titles. Other issues dealt with. Will tick once hook finalised. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:53, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Ok, agree with these, will ping when done, and thanks for adding the photograph! Ceoil (talk) 12:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 26[edit]

Old-age-security hypothesis

Created/expanded by Vyacheslav84 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:09, 26 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment (not a review). The article does not support the hook, in several important ways. (1) It is about a decrease in fertility caused by adding pensions, not about an increase in fertility caused by removing them. The phrasing in the hook, suggesting that cutting pensions will cause fertility to go back up is an inference (WP:SYNTH) rather than something directly supported by the sources in the article. (2) Linking Welfare state to "well-being of the country" is a violation of WP:SUBMARINE. (3) There is zero support in the article for the claim in the hook that cutting pensions will increase well-being. It links low pensions to "overall income growth" but that is hardly the same thing as well-being. The only connection to well-being is an opposite one to what is in the hook: "although it increases household savings". The article is also quite problematic in its context-free presentation of various opinions with no evaluation of what local circumstances they are based on or how widespread those opinions are, and in its base assumptions that greater fertility is a greater good and that individual hardship (based for instance on involuntary childlessness) can be ignored. —David Eppstein (talk) 19:52, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Your suggestions for the wording? — Vyacheslav84 (talk) 07:36, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Adding pensions cuts fertility? — Vyacheslav84 (talk) 08:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
  • "the refusal of the state from old-age benefits..." is downright ungrammatical anyway. What does it mean? Johnbod (talk) 03:36, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 28[edit]

1x1 (song)

  • ... that Nova Twins recorded and returned their contributions to the Bring Me the Horizon song "1x1" in two days? Source: "They were on a really tight deadline because they needed it done a week after we'd got it, so the song was there and they said they wanted a few weird sounds, so I added a few weird bass noises on there [...] We turned it around in two days because they needed it quickly." (link)
    • ALT1:... that Nova Twins were asked to feature on the Bring Me the Horizon song "1x1" through a message on Instagram? Source: "The next day we got an inbox from Oli saying, 'Got a song for you guys, I've been listening to you guys on Spotify and I really like your stuff' and he send us the song as a DM!" "Yep, he sent it as a Dropbox file through Instagram!" (link)
  • Reviewed: QPQ pending

Created by Sock (talk). Self-nominated at 23:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Comment regarding notability Per WP:NSONGS songs articles should include independent, non-trivial coverage to demonstrate notability. Although this song has charted on the UK charts, I see that sources used in this article are limited to album reviews/discussions, and Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability. Is there coverage on this song beyond album reviews? If not, I am afraid this article fails NSONGS. HĐ (talk) 00:52, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
  • I would have to disagree that the album reviews are the only coverage, as both Sykes and Nova Twins have discussed the song with Kerrang! and NME. Additionally, Alternative Press not only covered Nova Twins' Kerrang interview, but also featured "1x1" in a list of unexpected artist collaborations and calling it "an eclectic blend of metal and radio pop". I think there's significant coverage for notability, personally. Sock (tock talk) 20:58, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
  • The coverage in Kerrang and NME can be reasonably merged into the album's article, probably within a "Background / Production" section where the conception of all songs is included. Other than that, the composition and "critical reception" sections taken from album reviews wouldn't suffice in terms of notability to me. HĐ (talk) 03:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Given that the nomination has been stuck for a while now due to notability concerns, I'd suggest having an AFD or merge discussion to settle things. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 29[edit]

TIC 168789840

* ... that astronomers using the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (pictured) determined that TIC 168789840 was oriented so the eclipses of all six of its stars could be observed from Earth? ** ALT1:... that astronomers using the Transiting Exoplanet Survey Satellite (pictured) determined that TIC 168789840 was oriented so the eclipses of all six of its stars could be observed from Earth?

Created by Geo Swan (talk). Self-nominated at 19:39, 29 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Greetings. I will get started with this review. In the meantime -- I have added a [citation needed] tag onto one statement, and I suspect the same is required for all the data on the infobox as well, unless the database SIMBAD is the source for the infobox. Let me know. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 05:04, 31 January 2021 (UTC)


Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Meets eligibility requirement (newness). Length is ~1600 characters, just above the recommended 1500 characters. If the editor can expand the article further, I definitely encourage that, but, if that is not possible, we should go for this. Have requested two sourcing edits, and those should be simple to complete. Scores high on Earwig's Copyvio detector -- but, this is attributable to a direct quote that has been rightly sourced. Hook's source has not been included as a part of the QPQ nomination (pardon me, if I missed it), but, I am assuming it is sourced to this NASA link. The quoted text says three binaries -- I am assuming that means 3 * 2 = 6 stars. Image in the hook is used in the article and is a public domain link from NASA. QPQ check says that it is the editor's first DYK nomination and hence QPQ might not be necessary -- if this is not true, please let me know. Can I request the editor to rework the hook so it might be interesting for the layperson reader? Need some amount of contextualization as well. Can you please take a pass? Happy to help if anything else is required from me. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 05:22, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

How about:
ALT2 ... that TIC 168789840 is the first six-star stellar system to be discovered where the stars can be observed eclipsing one another from the Earth?
If there's a desire to include the mention of TESS in the hook, it can come after the bolded link. The wording could probably be revised further but it seems clearer to wording suitable for general audiences than the original. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:11, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Greetings Narutolovehinata5. Pardon my delay. The hook definitely is good. I am ok with or without the TESS. However, if we do not use TESS, we will have to drop the image. Thoughts? Ktin (talk) 07:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Let's hear from Geo Swan if they'll prefer that TESS be mentioned in the hook or if they're okay with the mention being omitted. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:15, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
  • This is my first dyk. I'll defer to the judgement of more experienced contributors. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 00:46, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks. @Ktin: Will you be able to finish the review now? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:13, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks. I have removed the picture. We can go with ALT2. I have updated the notes. Last note -- the article has an infobox with lots of data. Is that sourced to the SIMBAD database? Can I assume WP:AGF on that one and mark the article as sourced? Please let me know. Thanks a ton. Ktin (talk) 05:48, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I have nothing new to add and will cheerfully defer to more experienced DYK workers. Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 03:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on January 30[edit]

Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen

Huub Oosterhuis in 1969
Huub Oosterhuis in 1969

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 22:54, 5 February 2021 (UTC).

  • This is only a comment, but perhaps a hook based on the proposal to ban the song from the 2013 edition of the hymnal that had it would be more interesting than it saying that it is a German translation of another song? The efforts to ban it and subsequent pushback sound more eye-catching to be honest. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
    Go ahead, I was tired when I wrote it, and have work waiting. The especially quirky thing is that the Dutch author received a German sermon prize only a few years after the "ban" discussion, but I couldn't get it all in. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Reading through the article, I'm confused as to who was the one who left the Catholic Church: was it Oosterhuis or Huijbers? The article wording makes it ambiguous. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:10, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
I repeated Oosterhuis, but don't think that a composer's turning away would have caused the same conflict. Also, the composer didn't head a church. For a hook, I'm reluctant to say too much about the author - vs. the text of this hymn which is the subject. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:24, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that a proposal to remove "Herr, unser Herr, wie bist du zugegen" and other hymns from a 2013 hymnal because their composer (pictured) had left Catholicism was met with backlash from German parishes?
How does this sound? Unfortunately, mentioning Oosterhuis by name would have meant the hook would go beyond 200 characters so I had to leave it out and include a piped link instead. As for the award angle, that sounds good, but it appears that he received that award for his work in general as opposed to for this hymn specifically. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Good try, but he was the author, not the composer, it couldn't be removed from the 2013 edition which didn't exist yet, and the same - not only this hymn - could be said against it. How is this: I write about another of his works, and then we try the approach? For this hymn, I'd really like the "God's presence" meaning, in memory of a friend. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed, during which the reviewer can request or suggest additional hooks. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
It doesn't seem clear from the article if "Herr" was one of the songs that were planned to be removed from the 2013 edition, so clarification on this information is needed if the angle is to be used. If it wasn't, then this angle could probably be dropped and a different direction be used. As for the "it couldn't be removed from the 2013 edition" part, as I understand from the article, the proposal was to remove his songs from the revision planned for publication in 2013. Was this indeed the case? If so, I don't understand how "remove from a 2013 hymnal" is inaccurate, because it was still discussing about a proposal related to the 2013 version. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

COVID vaccine dispute

  • ... that during a vaccine dispute, the European Union was accused of "an absolutely incredible act of hostility" by Arlene Foster, Northern Ireland's first minister?

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk) and Dumelow (talk). Nominated by Cwmhiraeth (talk) at 07:32, 3 February 2021 (UTC).

Whether relevant or not for DYK I have concerns this article has not been expanded to cover some of the fallout from this dispute (I'm unsure if this affects DYK). This includes: fallout impact on the ramifications of threat of revoking Article 16 (e.g.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55882140) ; the impact of the threat of export controls ; where the 9m doses have been magic'd from (I think I read AZ had procured extra capacity); Questions about more UK support for Valneva vaccine rather than EU/French support; pressure on Commission President Ursula von der Leyen .... I'm too tied RL currently to try to expand article which could be controversial but it probably needs nuturing and expansion in my view. It also really needs a Template:Gs/talk notice for covid if chosen for DYK. Otherwise probably has merits for DYK but DYK is not a zone I follow or know much about. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk)

Symbol possible vote.svg In response to Djm-leighpark's concerns, no, that is of no relevance to the DYK nomination. What is of relevance is the merge tag. That needs to be resolved before this nomination goes anywhere. Please place a {{subst:DYK?again}} tag once that's resolved. Schwede66 01:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The merger suggestion has been resolved. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Jane Lunnon

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 12:47, 31 January 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, nominated in time, QPQ done. Appears neutral/stable. Generally adequate inline sources, which appear reliable enough (but see below caveats/queries). Earwig found no copyright problems and spotchecks on freely available sources revealed no close paraphrasing. Hooks are concise, not negative and check out with sources. Alt 1 is fine.
  • I find the main hook a little dull, having not previously heard of Alleyn's School (and I'm a Brit, it's probably less known internationally); this needs more context to be usable, I think.
  • I like Alt 2 but the quotation given is slightly inaccurate, I think what she actually says is: "is not really doing anything very much for feminism". What you've put in the article is technically correct (C4 misquotes her) but the hook is not. I also think it needs the context of her being a head teacher adding. It would also be useful to add more about this interview clip to the article; she talks extensively about the show's emphasis on appearance, particularly sexualised appearance.
  • Not seeing a source for the place & year of birth?
  • Does Lunnon publish her middle name, maiden name and marriage date? If not, I think these should probably be removed per BLP policy if they are only sourced to the marriage certificate. Neither she nor her husband are public figures and the marriage certificate is not a published source.
  • kesw.org & rolemodels.me ref details could do with expansion. Channel 4 interview needs the date. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Espresso Addict. I think you are right, I am adding more context to the main hook, and I have corrected and expanded Alt2 as suggested. On the middle name, the answer is yes, Lunnon has included it in several public documents. I wasn’t aware of the BLP policy, which strikes me as very unhelpful to the purpose of an encyclopaedia. I doubt if any other reference works are so particular. In England and Wales Registration of Births, Deaths, and Marriages, is a public process, and while the original documents are primary sources, the indexes to them are publicly available secondary sources and in no sense private or confidential. So I would be inclined to leave those dates (but not to complain if someone comes along and removes them). The source for the place and year of birth is in the next citation. I’ll get around to expanding the article on the lines you have put forward. Moonraker (talk) 05:45, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Mapuche polygamy

Created by Sietecolores (talk). Self-nominated at 09:18, 31 January 2021 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg The topic is interesting enough, but the article has several issues which needs to be resolved. The least of these involve grammar, which can be rectified easily enough. However, the image which accompanies the article says it depicts the "Martrys of Elicura," but makes no mention of this incident within the body of the article, nor does it cite its connection to it. Some of the assertions in the article are poorly cited. For example, the lede states that "Mapuche polygamy has also been reported in the low-income peripheral communes of Santiago." However, the corresponding citation makes no mention of this, although it does spend a paragraph describing a polygamous union set in an unspecified urban area. With respect to the second hook, the source it cites doensn't establish any proof. Rather, it relies on heresay about people several generations ago for whom, unfortunately, there are no records provided of their social habits. In fact, a number of quotes from within that source suggests that polyandry was strongly discouraged historically and very likely did not exist at all. One person goes so far as to say that there exists "no precedent" for polyandry in Mapuche culture, and that the very concept "without question goes against nature." Finally, the main source of the article is, simply put, poorly written. Long paragraphs consisting entirely of meandering, run-on sentences are rife throughout. Worse of all, it poses what appears to be the author's personal opinions as objective facts. I think the article itself and at least one of the hooks needs some work in order to be DYK-ready. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 00:03, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Work in progress. I have made some changes to address some issues CurryTime7-24 find problematic. I do however find this statement "author's personal opinions as objective facts" unacceptable and I would like to have another author that assume good faith and neutrality address this DYK nomination. I have edited and created numerous Mapuche-related articles onver the years and this is the first time I encounter such negative attitude. Of course authors leave an imprint on the articles they create and I have done plenty of work in selecting the information to include which I think is encyclopedically relevant. As written above, I am addressing most of the issues CurryTime7-24 is concerned about But I will accept he/she being the reviewer here. Sietecolores (talk) 16:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 1[edit]

Symphony No. 6 (Prokofiev)

Sergei Prokofiev (on the podium, right) receiving applause after the second performance of his Symphony No. 6.
Sergei Prokofiev (on the podium, right) receiving applause after the second performance of his Symphony No. 6.
  • ... that Sergei Prokofiev's (pictured) Sixth Symphony was said to depict the "private world of modern man against the terrifying machinery of universal destruction"? Source: "В этом волнующем сопоставлении - личный мир современного человека и грозная машина всеобщего уничтожения - есть нечто роднящее Шестую симфонию с другой великой симфонией наших дней - Восьмой симфонией Шостаковича. (In this nerve-wracking juxtaposition—the private world of modern man against the terrifying machinery of universal destruction—there is something reminiscent in the Sixth Symphony akin to another great symphony of our times, Shostakovich’s Eighth.)" (Mendelson-Prokofieva, Mira (2012) On Sergei Sergeyevich Prokofiev: Memoirs, Diaries (1938 – 1967) (in Russian))
    • ALT1:... that the premiere of Sergei Prokofiev's (pictured) Sixth Symphony would be the "last unhampered, unmediated success" its composer would ever enjoy? Source: "The [premiere] was Prokofiev’s last unhampered, unmediated success." [9]

5x expanded by CurryTime7-24 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:09, 1 February 2021 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg It's hard for me to tell if this was truly expanded 5x; the article is only modestly longer than it was prior to the recent renovation, but a lot of old material was removed in the course of the renovation. IAR, I think the recent renovations merit a DYK appearance, but for due diligence I feel compelled to note this.

ALT0 is AGF on sourcing because I can't read Russian. ALT1 is properly sourced, but I don't find it particularly enticing to someone who doesn't know who Prokofiev is.

For the picture license, I'm not sure which of the Russian public domain criteria the picture falls under, so I'd like a second opinion from someone with copyright expertise. The picture is clear enough, although you can't really see much detail at 100px; we might want to consider cropping.

Earwig turns up no concerns. QPQ not needed, as nominator is under 5 limit. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 04:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Sdkb, in terms of expansion, this is a very odd case. Before a trio of edits on 30 January 2021, the article had 3043 prose characters. Today, the article has 6917 prose characters, about 2.3× the original. However, on 30 January, an editor reformatted the "Movements" section so that the prose in it was indented, as if this were a list, which means that the prose checkers would not have counted those three paragraphs, taking the prose count down to 931. (An expansion from 931 to 6917 is about 7.5×.) Normally, I'd give my regrets and note that going from 3043 to 6917 was insufficient expansion, even if the article were rewritten—as WP:DYKSG#A4 notes, Fivefold expansion is calculated from the previously existing article, no matter how bad it was (copyvios are an exception), no matter whether you kept any of it and no matter if it were up for deletion. This may be a bad surprise, but we don't have enough time and volunteers to reach consensus on the quality of each previous article.—and recommend that the article be renominated if it attains GA status. The feeling in the past has been that expansion should not be from an artificially low level caused by a removal of text shortly before the beginning of an expansion. I thought new wording had been decided on to reflect this, but can't find it in the supplementary guidelines. This may or may not be an IAR situation; maybe you should inquire on the DYK talk page. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:37, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

I never understood why in these cases they didn't count towards the prose count: they're still prose right? I can understand table content, but in the case of indented lists it feels a bit unfair. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:39, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
As the person who indented then sections was not the person who has expanded it and nominated, it seems unfair to disallow this as a 5x expansion. At the time when they started expanding it ([10]) it was 931 characters, and they have therefore done a 7x expansion. We shouldn't be expecting users to go check formatting on previous revisions of an article before expanding them. The 5x requirement is from the time they started it, at which point it was only 931 characters according to our rules check. I believe that disallowing this nomination would therefore be unfair, because the nominator has met the 5x expansion criteria according to our normal way of counting. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 2[edit]

I Am God (novel)

  • ... that I Am God? Source: ...it's the title of the book

Created by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 16:31, 2 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, long enough, nominated in time. Appears neutral. Generally sufficient online citations to reliable sources but see nitpicks.
Earwig found no major copyright problems; the one phrase it highlighted ("God falling in love with a mortal woman") is such a stock phrase that I don't think it's a problem. On source spotchecks you might want to look into rephrasing slightly further away from the NYT wording eg "for reasons he does not understand." (article) vs "For reasons He can’t understand" (NYT) in the context of other similar phrasing. "Intricate" is also a quotation, and should be quoted or rephrased.
Hook is concise and amusing; I like it for the quirky slot (it doesn't really fit elsewhere, but DYK is often short of the quirky ones so I don't think that matters). It isn't formally inline cited at the end of the sentence where it first appears. Is there an easy way of doing that just to tick the box?
Need to give original publication date (at least the year) in text with source (currently only in categories). You also need a source for the translator and date of translation into English, the genres, and indeed all the info in the lead and infobox that isn't in the body. Probably easiest to just start a brief publication history section to attach the refs to.
All the online sources would normally have access dates though it's unclear how necessary they are for reviews in newspapers.
Do you read Italian or are you going with some form of online translation? The word "spirited" probably needs quoting and giving the original word that it translates.
Not essential for DYK, but it would be good to expand the lead. It certainly should give the Italian title/date of publication, but a comment on reception would also be useful. In the body, you could also comment on the quality of the translation; eg there's a useful comment in R. P. Finch's review. Also the author is apparently a soil scientist and has written 7 novels of which this is the first to appear in English, which would be interesting background in the absence of an article about him.
Strictly QPQ could do with directly addressing all the DYK boxes eg length, copyvio/close paraphrasing, but more importantly there's no comment on the image suitability/licensing.
Sorry for the long review, I seem incapable of doing them short these days. Bottom line, with a few tweaks this will make a great quirky hook that will hopefully get lots of hits. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:32, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for checking it out, @Espresso Addict! No worries about the long review. In no particular order:
Still getting the hang of QPQ (I haven't even technically run enough hooks to require it, but I've been submitting quite a lot lately so I'm doing it out of courtesy), so there's some growing pains. I'll definitely keep the image matters in mind; I checked it afterwards out of personal curiosity and it looked fine, but I totally blanked on it being an aspect of QPQ.
Italian is via translation, yes (I know tiny amounts but nothing useful); I modified the wording of that section a little to avoid direct quoting in a way that risks getting disputed by an actual speaker.
I noticed while expanding the lede (hope it looks better now, and that the references are sufficient -- take that as a comment on the other parts about referencing) that Giacomo Sartori and Frederika Randall are both redlinks. I suspect one or both may pass GNG/NAUTHOR, so I'll be looking into solving that the classic way, so to speak. Access dates are added. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 05:59, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
The "hook" is not acceptable. A real hook must present an actual fact. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 01:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Vaticidalprophet: Great new article on Randall; sad to read she is deceased. I think my only remaining nitpick that's necessary for DYK is the date of publication in English needs an inline source. However I see that Mandarax has nixed the suggested hook -- personally I disagree and I know DYK has run hooks of this form in the past, but unless you want to take it up on the DYK talk page, I'm afraid you will have to come up with something different. The quotation from NYT looks nicely hooky to me. Espresso Addict (talk) 13:06, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Article on Sartori written too, as it is. Spent quite a while seriously thinking about this, and still not very happy with my options. I'd like to go to bat for the original hook; I don't want to cause a whole incident, though, and I suspect a whole incident may be caused if I do. Thoughts?​ Vaticidalprophet (talk) 17:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
@Vaticidalprophet: If you write a polite note on the DYK talk page soliciting editors' views on it as a quirky hook then I don't think it will cause an incident, though people seem pretty tetchy these days (lockdown fatigue?). Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 17:22, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
@Mandarax: The hook that ran from this 2011 DYK nom didn't have any fact contained within it (simply an enlarged question mark). Granted, it ran on April Fools' Day. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:38, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes, that was a one-time April Fools' Day exception, and I was fine with it. There have been a few other examples, but just because something wrong was done in the past is not a reason to do the same wrong thing again. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 02:17, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Vaticidalprophet:, I like the humor of your original hook, but I can see how it may fall in a gray area. I do like the concept of an 'in-universe' kind of hook for the novel, maybe something along the lines of one of the following would work? /Tpdwkouaa (talk) 02:31, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
    • ALT1: ... that God keeps a diary? [11]
    • ALT2: ... that God fell in love with an atheist? [12]
I quite like ALT2, and I'll take it if there are no objections, but in-universe style hooks get objections too. All apologies for blowing up your notifications lately, @Espresso Addict, but -- ? Vaticidalprophet (talk) 08:22, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
I did warn you this might happen Vaticidalprophet. I will just say be careful if you do want to go down that route as Maundy Thursday coincides with AFD this year so you might get some comment about it. But as I said in the talk page comment, I am only making an observation and I will not stand in the way of this. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 11:47, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
If in-universe hooks are absolutely prohibited, rather than only acceptable in exceptional cases as I had thought, then neither of these is any more acceptable than the original hook, sadly. Otherwise Alt1 (diary) is ok except that the article uses the word "journal"; and Alt2 (falling in love) is ok except that the falling in love wording is in the lead without an explicit source; the body uses "infatuation". If an out-of-universe one is needed then you would need at minimum to rephrase it along the lines of:
  • ALT3: "... that in I Am God, a novel by Giacomo Sartori, God falls in love with an atheist?" but even this, imo, really falls into the only in-universe pot, as the main fact is just plot summary.
@Mandarax: For clarity, are you opposed to this even on April Fools' Day? Espresso Addict (talk) 17:14, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
Yes. Besides a few specific exceptions, all of the "normal" rules apply to AFD hooks. ALTs 1 and 2 are also unacceptable, as in-universe hooks are, indeed, prohibited. Now, as far as I'm concerned, ALT3 is okay, but I believe the consensus in past WT:DYK discussions has generally been that even hooks like that are not allowed. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:21, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I think we'd better take this to DYK:Talk for a wider consensus. Espresso Addict (talk) 22:23, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I suspect we should, yes. At the moment, I'm a little acutely sleep-deprived and need to prioritize that health matter over starting a thread myself, but I'd be happy if you could or if you'd rather I wait some hours. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 22:39, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Either Alt1 or Alt2 are fine. --evrik (talk) 01:22, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: It should be noted that ALT1 and ALT2 are pure in-universe hooks and as such would not be allowed per the rules requiring hooks to have a connection to the real world. @Vaticidalprophet: The article is currently lacking sections on the novel's themes and development; are there enough sources or coverage for them to be written? If you can write sections on those, there could potentially be more hook ideas that would better fit the rules. @Espresso Addict: As for allowing in-universe hooks in exceptional circumstances, I did propose a similar idea a couple of years ago, although consensus ended up being strongly against it, and from experience no IAR exemption has ever recently been permitted for in-universe hooks, even for April Fools. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Hooks have to relate to the real world? Where do the guidlines say that? --evrik (talk) 01:01, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
@Evrik: WP:DYKSG#C6. Previous discussions have also rejected hooks based on plots and plot points. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:55, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Both diaries and atheists exist in the real world. In any case, I don't think slavish adherence to this guideline is really necessary. --evrik (talk) 03:09, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
  • There appears to be a consensus against any of the current proposals, so a new hook direction is probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Indeed, I was coming back to write this. I do note that some essentially in-universe hooks go through without complaint, witness today's Gwerz Santes Enori. Espresso Addict (talk) 05:59, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
It's apparently a song so its hook relating to the real world is more arguable. Had I seen that hook earlier I would have probably started a discussion on it to be on the safe side, though I think song lyrics-related hooks have been allowed multiple times in the past. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:59, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Trying a new approach. How about:
ALT4 ... that the God in the novel I Am God was described by a reviewer as "half heteronormative deity, half embarrassing uncle"?
ALT4a ... that the God in the novel I Am God was described by a reviewer as "half embarrassing uncle"?
The "half embarrassing uncle" quote caught my eye when taking a new look at the article, although I don't know if it's appropriate as a hook. If needed, it could be mentioned that the description was by a reviewer, but for hookiness purposes it could also be left out. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:42, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
On second thought, I just added the "by a reviewer" part to allay any concerns that the hooks sounded in-universe. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 5[edit]

Coat of arms of Naples

Coat of arms of Naples
Coat of arms of Naples

Created/expanded by Borteddd (talk). Self-nominated at 19:39, 8 February 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - N
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Is the large Italian-language direct quote needed? I think it should be rewritten and cited in the body of the article. Perhaps suggest a more specific and interesting hook that has an in-line citation. I added the image from the article. TJMSmith (talk) 02:33, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

National Socialist Party (Philippines)

  • Comment: QPQ to come later. Republican Party is too short and will look for ways to expand it further.

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self-nominated at 17:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Maybe another hook specifically about the party could be proposed here? MLQ doesn't really have that much name recall outside of the Philippines so I don't know if this hook works (except as a double hook where Republican was also nominated for DYK). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:41, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Westerners will associate "National Socialist Party" with Nazis, that flourished in the 1930s. U.S. Republicans hate communists. People will then be intrigued on MLQ who beat Nazis and communists only to find out it wasn't Nazis, but still communists. Howard the Duck (talk) 01:28, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
Maybe mention Aguinaldo and that he was the first Philippine president? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:10, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
Aguinaldo didn't have the incumbency advantage in this election. The hookiness of the hook relies on someone beating Nazis and communist-backed Republicans in the mid 1930s, with someone beating Nazis at this time close to impossible, and communists backing Republicans close to impossible as well, only to know that it wasn't Nazis, but still communists, but not the Republicans they know about. Howard the Duck (talk) 13:48, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 6[edit]

Giacomo Sartori

Created by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 16:17, 6 February 2021 (UTC).

  • I will start this review momentarily. Ktin (talk) 21:48, 6 February 2021 (UTC)


Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Article meets eligibility criteria - length and newness. Will require a relook at sourcing -- while sentences are sourced, many of them are sourced to the author's profile on the book publisher's webpage, his own Linkedin page. I am asking another editor / reviewer's assistance to help have a relook. No major copyvios to be seen. The phrase has since published seven novels and four collections of short stories can be considered for revision since it is used as-is from Restlessbooks. Hook is cited and interesting. However, hook is again sourced the author's page on the publisher webpage. Will require another Editor's eyes on this one. Request to the nominator -- In addition, can you think about a rewrite of the lede. Please see if you can avoid narrative style and go for a declarative style. E.g. He is an author of x books including A, B, and C, rather than "Sartori, who began writing in his thirties, has since published ...". I would also suggest reconsidering phrases such as 'positive reviews' in the lede. QPQ not required since the editor has only DYK published so far. However, if this is not accurate, please let me know. Overall, I think this is a good nomination, but, might require a relook. I am requesting for another reviewer's support on this one. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 22:26, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look, @Ktin! I'm cutting down on the relevant predominance of the author bio a bit. The LinkedIn cite is to support some uncontroversial biographical information, which I've always taken as an acceptable use of that kind of source (and is explicitly called out as "can be a valid reason to use discouraged sources" on Cite Unseen); post-revision, the author bio is mostly the same. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 06:16, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
@Vaticidalprophet: Thanks. Let me know when the edits are done, and I can pick it up. Cheers. Ktin (talk) 02:14, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
@Ktin: Been a while, but how do you feel about how the article is currently set up? Vaticidalprophet (talk) 22:55, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
@Vaticidalprophet: Looks good. Added one [citation needed] tag. Good to go once that is fixed. Ktin (talk) 03:04, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
@Ktin: Cited. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 22:51, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Approved. Looks good. Ktin (talk) 23:33, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Came by to promote, but I'm uncomfortable with the hook assertion being sourced to his publisher. I think we need a new hook. —valereee (talk) 16:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg If a new hook is needed, then adding icon indicating that there's an issue holding up promotion. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
  • Honestly, I'm pretty tired of this process. I have half a mind to entirely withdraw this hook and the I Am God hook. I don't know that I want to commit to it, but I don't exactly feel motivated to come up with a new one. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 03:41, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Hu Zhiying

Hu Zhiying (right) and New York missionaries together in 2014
Hu Zhiying (right) and New York missionaries together in 2014

Created/expanded by Jujiang (talk). Self-nominated at 13:12, 6 February 2021 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg I'm not sure this article and nomination are ready for primetime yet. There are still some rough edges in the prose that could be smoothed over into more fluid English, and while the copyvio detector doesn't pick up anything that looks like obvious plagiarism, it does suggest overquotation. I have my doubts about the picture being a free image, and even if it were we could certainly do better than "see, this guy is on the right of this group of three that takes up about one-sixth of the image" ... in fact I was preparing a crop when I decided to look at the image's source.

As for the hooks ... let's go with the original one; the one I had to remove a duplicate of, as what is now ALT1 is rather unremarkable as many artists have work exhibited worldwide. And even having said that, we will need to clean up the original hook as it is wordy and still awkwardly worded, as a result of being what seems to be a direct translation of the Chinese. Daniel Case (talk) 19:30, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Fixed that. Daniel Case (talk) 19:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
@Daniel Case: Thank you a lot. I made a little modification to the hook. --Jujiang (talk) 21:16, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
OK, but the article itself still needs some work, per what I wrote. Daniel Case (talk) 03:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@Daniel Case: Can you make a small improvement for this article if you find anything inaccurate? My mother tongue is not English. Thank you very much. --Jujiang (talk) 11:01, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 7[edit]

Freeee (Ghost Town, Pt. 2)

Improved to Good Article status by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg 5x expansion began on 7 Feb (article at 11,533 bytes prior to start) and was at 52,103 bytes on 15 Feb. That's not quite 5x expansion (which would be 57,665 bytes). Even now, it's only at 52,437 bytes. It needs at least 5228 more bytes to meet the 5x expansion minimum. Many artists submit songs to be considered, and most of them are not nominated, so the fact that these artists submitted their song and it wasn't nominated is not all that unusual or interesting, even though they are more well-known that many other artists. Article needs more expansion to be eligible, and it needs a more interesting hook. I'll think on it a bit to see if I can come up with a better hook. In the meantime, Kyle, please expand the article a bit more, and also try to think of a more interesting hook. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:28, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg The correct DYK icon here should be the purple maybe symbol since changes have been suggested as opposed to being rejected outright. Flibirigit (talk) 02:47, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Nihonjoe and Flibirigit, I have now changed the hook to be a more interesting one on my own part and could the suggestion of using the purple symbol be taken on now maybe? Also, I will try to expand the article today since I apologise for not having read the criteria to know expansion had to be 5x; however, this GAN is currently under review so if it passed shortly but has not been expanded further, can the DYK pass too? --K. Peake 07:27, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: Yes, if it passes GAN, then the 5x requirement is moot. I suggest, instead of changing the original hooks, create new ones using ALT2 and ALT3. That way, people can see what the originals were and be able to compare properly. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:17, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Nihonjoe I have made this update now, but how do you feel about the new hooks? --K. Peake 18:35, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: I like ALT2 and ALT3 better, but the wording still needs tweaking to tighten it up. Maybe something like ALT4?
If this one is picked, then someone else will need to review things to make sure they agree with my assessment. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:06, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
Nihonjoe I have offered an ALT5 now, how does it read? --K. Peake 21:31, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: The "a lawsuit was launched against" part in ALT5 is passive and too wordy, and therefore makes the hook not read as well. It shouldn't take too long for someone to pop by offer an opinion on ALT4. We're also waiting for you to expand the article further (about 5228 more characters) or for it to pass GAN, so we're not pressed for time. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 00:52, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Nihonjoe Would it be acceptable for ALT4 to be used if it is met with approval, despite me not being behind the hook fully? --K. Peake 06:47, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: That would be for another reviewer to decide. Since I'm the one that worded it, I can't decide if it's acceptable or not. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:38, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
@Nihonjoe: More so what I meant was are alts allowed to be used that another user paraphrased from the nominator? --K. Peake 17:43, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: Yes, that happens all the time. You would still get all the credit, though. ALTs are often tweaked and fiddle with until a catchy one is found. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:57, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
@Nihonjoe: This article has now passed as a GA and I have changed the expanded part, therefore you should change the new enough criterion to be appropriate in this context. Will just need to wait on the hook review after that! --K. Peake 12:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: Done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:06, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Nihonjoe All I have to do now is wait on another review then, correct? --K. Peake 21:54, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
@Kyle Peake: Yes, someone else needs to approve one of the hooks. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 03:22, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Nihonjoe That is fine, I patiently await when they take a look then but at least the article has met the other requirements already! --K. Peake 11:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Since I suggested one of the ALTs, someone else needs to look things over and decide which one is used. Everything else is good to go, though. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:11, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Epidemiology in Relation to Air Travel

  • ... that a book on air travel published in 1933, showed how quarantinable diseases could arrive in the UK? taken from Massey,...shows how the switch from steamship to air travel potentially opened up the UK to four of the quarantine diseases endemic in other parts of the world. ...[13]

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 16:46, 14 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Date, size, copyvio spotcheck, refs, hook, neutrality, all GTG but we still need that QPQ review. Also, this is my own view, but the hook is pretty boring. Any alts to consider? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Thank you @Piotrus:...Apologies for the delay in replying....have been thinking this over. I will complete a QPQ soon. With regards to the boring hook, it was the least boring one I could think of (sorry). Maybe a passing-by user might help here.
ALT1:... that in Epidemiology in Relation to Air Travel (1933), Arthur Massey showed how air passengers could spread infectious diseases between countries before they showed any symptoms? Philafrenzy (talk) 17:34, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Viola Brand

  • Comment: Since I withdrew my previous nomination, this is now my final nomination without the need for a QPQ.

Moved to mainspace by Possibly (talk), RamónMC (talk), and LordPeterII (talk). Nominated by LordPeterII (talk) at 10:17, 12 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg delighted by a nomination which includes "artistic cycling". The article is okay, but the list of results, i.e. the whole "Personal best" section, needs referencing. It could use being updated too, it says "as of December 2018" she was studying, well it's Feb 2021. It's not essential but would improve things. Regarding the choice of hook, an appearance on the The Ellen DeGeneres Show is mildly interesting, but it'd be more interesting (I think) if we reinforced that Viola is German and only 26, and I think you need to use the proper title of the show rather than "the Ellen show". My preference is for ALT1 right now because I imagine plenty of sportspeople have been on Ellen without being world champions. QPQ not required, noted. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:34, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Alright, first a ping to Possibly and RamónMC, because I am not sure if being mentioned in a nomination does ping you automatically, and you might possibly have missed that this is at DYK.
@The Rambling Man: Okay, I see RamónMC has already added a ref for the table, but I am not 100% happy with it since it is to a javasript-heavy (or whatever) site, where you have to click several times within the same URL to access the actual results you are looking for. I'll try to look for a way to directly link to her results (so it can e.g. be archived by the IAbot). As for updating, I'll take a look - it previously stated that she started studying in 2015, so it's already closer to now. I'm not sure if we have reliable sources following her studies since she has now quit her career, but I'll take a look. I'll also revisit the hook as per your suggestions. Will report back once that is done! --LordPeterII (talk) 09:31, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
I had forgotten about this article; it was a two-sentence stub when I started it. Congrats and thanks RamónMC, who has improved it so much. I think Alt2 is much better. Nothing more to add.Possibly (talk) 09:37, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
LordPeterII no problem, ping me when you're ready for me to re-visit. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:19, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
@The Rambling Man: Hey, so I'm sorry this took so long. I've been sucked into real life and... whatever, I'm back. The article is in a pretty good state now imo, and I've managed to find a way to link directly to the competition results (though alas IAbot still seems to have problems with archiving these). ALT0 is a bad choice indeed, so I'd prefer not to use it after all. I've also struck ALT1 because while the "17 medals" thing was quoted in an old version of the article, it does no longer fit with our new wikitable - and I think the sources counted some subset, or included medals from her youth. Anyway, I hereby propose an adjusted hook, as well as a new hook:
And since we apparently have pictures (thanks for adding these RamónMC), I would like to try to include them as well - but I do not know how. The Rambling Man, could you tell me how to add them to the nomination? I'm thinking of this pic here File:Viola Brand artistic cycling (cropped).jpg since it's the most colourful, but maybe File:Viola Brand Worldchampionship.jpg would also be a good option since it shows her in competition. I'd leave the choice to you. --LordPeterII (talk) 22:08, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi there. I have only added images while creating a nomination. Best bet is to take a look at the coding for one of the existing nominations with an image and replicate that.
Symbol question.svg With regard to this hook, a few things remain for me. We don't really use "Vice World Champion", more like runner-up at the World Championship. I certainly prefer ALT1a, but artistic cycling is a redirect and The Ellen DeGeneres Show needs to be in italics. The article is in good condition, I'll have to assume good faith on the sources as my German is weak. No QPQ required. Let's just tweak the hook(s) to take into account my comments (if you agree) and we're almost there. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:45, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Sursock Purchases

The Sursock Purchases (red circle)
The Sursock Purchases (red circle)
  • ... that reaction to the sale of al-Fule, one of the Sursock Purchases, was the most significant Anti-Zionist event in Palestine prior to World War I? Source: Emanuel Beska, 2014, Political Opposition to Zionism in Palestine and Greater Syria: 1910–1911 as a Turning Point: "As the debate regarding the crown lands was still under way another, more important event started to develop. The sale of lands of the village of al-Fula to the Jewish National Fund can be considered in this context the most significant event that took place in the period before the outbreak of the First World War. The lands of al-Fula belonged to Ilyas Sursuq, the wealthy Greek Orthodox banker, merchant, and landowner from Beirut, who in 1910 reached a deal on their sale with the Zionists... The peasant inhabitants refused to leave their village and were supported in their resistance by the qa’immaqam (district governor) of Nazareth, Shukri al-‘Asali (1878–1916), who was resolutely opposed to this transaction and became a major protagonist in the affair."
  • Reviewed: To come

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 01:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC).

  • The cited source talks about the importance of the sale, not the reaction to it. Regardless, a claim like "most significant" needs to be attributed unless you can show that it's more than the opinion of one author. (t · c) buidhe 03:15, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Many thanks for your comment. The context of Beška's wider article is clear that this refers to the importance of the reaction. See for example the introduction: "The relatively short period at the turn of the year 1910–1911 was of profound importance for the development of political opposition to Zionism in Palestine and its neighboring Arab regions. During a period of about a year, several important events and incidents occurred; a number of Arab journalists, notables, and officers became involved in anti-Zionist activities and campaigns; and the quantity of articles critical of Zionism published in the Arabic press markedly increased. Based on these and other reasons, we are convinced that the months at the end of 1910 and the first half of 1911 represent the turning point in the attitudes of the educated Arab public toward Jewish land purchases in Palestine, Jewish immigration, and the Zionist movement." Onceinawhile (talk) 08:48, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
@Buidhe: a second source as requested: Rashid Khalidi (1997). Palestinian Identity: The Construction of Modern National Consciousness. Columbia University Press. ISBN 978-0-231-10515-6.: "These themes are reiterated during one of the earliest cases of orga­nized opposition to Zionist land purchase in Palestine: the al-Fula (or ‘Afula) incident of 1910-1911. Many newspaper articles written in oppo­sition to this sale stressed the special place of Palestine, for it was one of the biggest purchases up to that point, and one of the earliest to lead to the eviction of large numbers of Palestinian peasants… The twentieth-century incidents in the Tiberias region and at al-Fula, especially the latter, are significant because of the major effect they were to have in the context of Ottoman and Arab nationalist politics and in the coalescence of Palestinian identity… Important as had been the al-Shajara incidents in 1901-4 and their bloody sequel in 1909, which repeated the pattern of the earlier clashes in Petah Tiqva and elsewhere while taking the conflict to a higher level, a far greater impact was created by events in al-Fula… Although the end result for many of the fellahin involved was the same—dispossession and homelessness—the al-Fula purchase marked the beginning of an overt and articulate anti-Zionist campaign… In large part as a result of al-‘Asali’s actions, the al-Fula incident became a cause celebre in bilad al-Sham, with dozens of articles appearing in news­ papers in Damascus, Beirut, Haifa, and elsewhere over a period of over a year... The sharp, continuing controversy sparked off by the al-Fula sale, an otherwise minor incident, underlines the importance of the disposses­sion and consequent resistance of the Palestinian peasantry in making the issue of Zionism a central one in Arab political discourse before 1914… The coalescence of all these factors made the al-Fula clashes between Arab fellahin and Jewish settlers more significant than the many others that preceded it and that involved a few of the same elements."
Does this address your questions? Onceinawhile (talk) 22:42, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Not really, the second source appears to say that it is the most significant incident of opposition to Jewish land purchases during that era but the claim in the hook does not follow from that. Anyway, I think a better hook would focus on the purchases themselves as opposed to the reaction to them. It looks like Al-Fula incident is a notable topic that could have its own article. (t · c) buidhe 23:35, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
@Buidhe: I think these sources very clearly support the hook, so perhaps let’s get a third opinion. In the meantime, given you are well read on Israeli-Palestinian history, please could you confirm whether you consider the proposed hook likely to be accurate, or if you are unsure, whether you are aware of any other pre-WWI outbreak of Anti-Zionism in Palestine that could be considered equally or more significant? Onceinawhile (talk) 22:43, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Cookhouse

Cookhouse at the Captain Edward Compton House
Cookhouse at the Captain Edward Compton House
  • ... that cookhouses (example pictured) were a standard feature of remote work sites, as the working men (e.g. cowboys, loggers, miners, etc.) needed large amounts of food for the strenuous work they performed? [21] [22]
    • ALT1:... that a cookhouse (example pictured) at a logging camp served up to five meals a day for the workers who could work upwards of twelve hours, and consume between 6,000 and 9,000 calories, a day? [23]

Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 05:37, 7 February 2021 (UTC).

  • @Evrik:...New enough, long enough. Before completing review, suggest a clearer image and addressing high copyvio. I prefer the single hook but consider simplifying it and rewriting without using "e.g.", brackets and "etc". QPQ provided. Whispyhistory (talk) 20:39, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Whispyhistory: I swapped images, though I'm not tied to any image. As for the copyvio, That mirror site has copied the text from the Wikipedia article. --evrik (talk) 05:11, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg...@Evrik: Thanks for clarifying the copyvio. Image is free and clear...it is a reconstructed cookhouse. The hook contains "cowboys" and "miners". I could not see this in the cited reference. Please clarify. A shorter, simplified hook might be easier to read. An interesting topic. FYI...if interested...I had a little read around and also found...the evolution of the cookhouse to the kitchen [24], cockroaches and cookhouses, [25], illnesses in military cook houses [26], [27]. In 1885, D. G. Crawford described an outbreak in a military containment where they had to use the cookhouse as a hospital [28]. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:48, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I added a reference about cowboys. The miners cite is less clear, so we can drop that word ... if you have any suggested hooks, they would be appreciated. I will add the references to the talk page and will look at it later. Thanks! --evrik (talk) 02:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Canadian loggers and their cookhouse, 1917.
Canadian loggers and their cookhouse, 1917.
ALT1... that their cookhouse (example pictured) was as important to loggers as their bunkhouse or tool shed?
ALT1a... that for loggers, the cookhouse (example pictured) was as important as the bunkhouse or tool shed?
ALT2... that farms often sprang up just to supply the cookhouse (example pictured) of logging camps, and closed when the camp did? Philafrenzy (talk) 20:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
Thank you. Please check ok with you @Evrik:. ALT1 looks good. Image ok too. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:39, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
  • The article cookhouse is barely adequate and is composed of a number of sources strung together just because they use the word cookhouse rather than canteen, kitchen, mess, or restaurant. If the sources had used another descriptor, would they even be in the article? It might be stronger if it more closely defined its subject and went into more depth about it. It has potential but right now it could easily be merged into another article and nobody would miss it. Philafrenzy (talk) 08:49, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
I think it needs a narrower focus and greater depth. Philafrenzy (talk) 17:25, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 8[edit]

I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone

  • ... that Elvis Presley's song "I'm Left, You're Right, She's Gone" features a theme common to country music: "passive acceptance of the singer's fate"? Source: "This song also features a common characteristic of country music–the passive acceptance of the singer's fate and the subsequent melancholy it brings." ([29])
  • Reviewed: Coming soon
  • Comment: The article still needs work, but today is the last day to nominate it. And the hook could be better, too.
    Update. My eyes are aching, so I'll have to limit my computer use for a while.

Created/expanded by Moscow Connection (talk). Self-nominated at 16:31, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting song, on good sources, no copyvio obvious, but please format the bare urls once your eyes ache less. I'm no friend of one-line sections, please expand or combine. Check for typos, please. I am used to using last name (Presley) and don't know if we make exceptions for pop stars. But surely not Presly ;) - Do we say "according to her and her book ..."? How about "according to her who wrote in her book ..." or "according to her book ..." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:13, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
Gerda Arendt I took care of the bare urls, the typo on Presly, and also "and her book"→"in her book". — Maile (talk) 15:25, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Allen Mawer

Allen Mawer
Allen Mawer
  • ... that Allen Mawer (pictured) was the driving force behind the establishment of the English Place-Name Society, which conducted the first scholarly survey of the toponymy of England? Source: Stenton, F. M. (2002). "Sir Allen Mawer". In Lapidge, Michael (ed.). Interpreters of Early Medieval Britain. British Academy. pp. 238–241. ISBN 9780197262771.; Ekwall, E. (1942). "Notes and News: Sir Allen Mawer: In Memoriam". English Studies. 24: 169–171. doi:10.1080/00138384208596736. There had long been a feeling in England that it was time for English scholarship to undertake a systematic survey of English place-names on lines similar to those followed in Scandinavia. It was now obvious that Mawer was the scholar to take the lead. He began paving the way… Thanks chiefly to Allen Mawer's untiring efforts the English Place-name Society was founded in January 1923 in order to finance the great survey planned. The Society met with a remarkable response from the public… The chief burden of the immense preparatory work lay on Allen Mawer's shoulders, and so no doubt did the task of drawing up the plan for the survey… It is really a feat of no small magnitude to have kept this great undertaking going without a hitch for so many years, and the chief credit is due to Allen Mawer. His organizing skill, his indefatigable energy, his infectious enthusiasm and unselfish devotion, his capacity for enlisting the interest and co-operation of other scholars and for frictionless collaboration, have been invaluable assets for the undertaking, as has been his scholarship, his etymological acumen, his sound method, and his experience as a place-name student. It will indeed not be easy to replace Allen Mawer.

Improved to Good Article status by Krakkos (talk). Self-nominated at 10:02, 8 February 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - ?
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The article achieved GA status on February 8 and was nominated the same day. Length is adequate. No plagiarism issues were detected, and the article meets DYK sourcing requirements. The photo of Mawer is freely licensed to the Commons, clear at a low resolution and would enhance the hook. The QPQ requirement has been completed. The hook is interesting, but I find it confusing that the term toponymy of England is not used in this biography and I do not feel the hook can be verified without more similar language used. I am concerned there may be weasel terms used in the biography. In the "Early career" section it says "he also published two notable papers", but it is not apparent to me why these papers are "notable". The statement "It established him as one of the major experts in this field of study" is not attributed to anyone, so the context is not apparent. In the section "Founding the English Place-Name Society", it says "It quickly became apparent that Mawer was the right man for the job". This statement should be attributed to someone who felt it was apparent. The statement, "Following a memorable speech" is not clear why the speech was notable nor who it is atributed to. In the statement "most notably Eilert Ekwall, Frank Stenton, Percy Hide Reaney, Albert Hugh Smith and John Eric Bruce Gover", it is not clear to me why these scholars are "most notable". The statement, "his highly important article "The Redemption of the Five Boroughs" seems very grandiose and does not attibute who said this nor why the article was important. In the "Provost at University College London" section, the statement "Although a man of great physical strength and energy" seems grandiose and would be better just to say he had a heart condition. Lastly, it is not apparent to me why any of the people listed in the "See also" section are related to this biography. Overall, the article is in decent shape but the tone could be improved. Flibirigit (talk) 17:20, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 10[edit]

Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of Clancarty

3/4-length portrait of Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of Clancarty
3/4-length portrait of Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of Clancarty
  • ... that one of the members (pictured) of the Supreme Council of the Irish Catholic Confederacy had two Protestant grandfathers? (1) MacCarthy 1913 p. 66: "Cormac MacDermott, 16th Lord, born in 1552, attended Parliament in 1578 as "Baron of Blarney", and conformed to the Protestant church." (2) McGurk (2004) p. 361, right column: "In the 1613 parliament he [Thomond] strongly supported the protestant party ..."
    • ALT1:... that Donough MacCarty, 1st Earl of Clancarty (pictured) who fought for the Irish Catholic Confederacy had two Protestant grandfathers? (1) MacCarthy 1913 p. 66: "Cormac MacDermott, 16th Lord, born in 1552, attended Parliament in 1578 as "Baron of Blarney", and conformed to the Protestant church." (2) McGurk (2004) p. 361, right column: "In the 1613 parliament he [Thomond] strongly supported the protestant party ..."
  • Comment: The hook fact is not central to the biography of the subject

Improved to Good Article status by Jdorney (talk) and MadMax (talk). Nominated by Johannes Schade (talk) at 17:31, 10 February 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol voting keep.svg ALT1 prefered Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:10, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg There are a few [citation needed] tags due to lacking inline citation requirements for DYK. These need to be resolved prior to promotion. (t · c) buidhe 14:27, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Dera Buidhe. I have done some work on the {{cn}} tags. I would like you to have a look and remove them if you agree. With Thanks, Johannes Schade (talk) 18:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Treatment of South Asian labourers in the Gulf Cooperation Council region

Migrant workers in Doha, Qatar
Migrant workers in Doha, Qatar

5x expanded by Zakaria1978 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment Zakaria1978, thanks for your work on this article! However, expansion is measured in readable prose and the article's readable prose has not been 5x expanded since creation. Since the size prior to recent additions was 1439 characters, the article needs to be at least 7195 characters of readable prose to be eligible. It currently stands at 5036 so expansion is definitely doable. (t · c) buidhe 03:59, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Article is now at 7645 characters. CMD (talk) 03:38, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b "How will Qatar's labor reforms impact South Asian workers?". DW.COM. October 1, 2020.

Articles created/expanded on February 13[edit]

Two-room school

  • ... that the US government once mailed rural school districts scale models from which carpenters could construct actual two-room schools? Source: from ref5 "Schoolhouse Models by Parcel Post"

Created by MB (talk). Self-nominated at 01:51, 16 February 2021 (UTC).

I don't agree, it could be split in the future if it got too big. But for now, any additions about anywhere in the world can go into this rather small article. I fear the tag may put off reviewers from looking at this article, so I will point out here that the supplemental rules say a DKY cannot have "dispute" tags, and practice is it cannot have major cleanup/referencing tags. But "improvement" tags like this are this are not an issue. MB 23:24, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Article titles should reflect the current content of the article, not what it could be if someone added content on say Bulgaria. Johnbod (talk) 00:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 15[edit]

Irena Solska

Portrait of Irena Solska by Leon Wyczółkowski (1899)
Portrait of Irena Solska by Leon Wyczółkowski (1899)

Created by Volunteer Marek (talk). Self-nominated at 01:27, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Reviewed: Lester Collins (architect)
  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is within DYK limits and is interesting. Image is in the Public Domain. AGF on the Sources/Citations which are written in Polish. Will be good to go as soon as QPQ is satisfied.-- Gwillhickers (talk) 23:34, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Reviewed/ing Lester Collins (landscape architect). Volunteer Marek 18:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

1994 Football League Third Division play-off Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - Needs a source.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Some Dude From North Carolina Emoji u1f422.svg 01:03, 7 March 2021 (UTC) -->

"Wycombe Wanderers had gained promotion from non-League football when they finished the 1992–93 Football Conference as champions and as such were making their first appearance in the play-offs in their first season in the Football League.[8]" + "No further goals were scored and Wycombe were promoted to the Second Division at their first attempt.[7][12][13]" The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Green Leader

Rhodesian Air Force ensign
Rhodesian Air Force ensign
  • ... that the Rhodesian Air Force's (flag pictured) Green Leader told Zambia that they were taking control of Zambian airspace on an air raid and threatened to shoot down any Zambian Air Force planes that interfered? Source: The Guardian

Converted from a redirect by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 15:47, 15 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg This is only a comment and not a review (I will leave the full review to another editor), but the current hook is too long as it is 214 characters long including "(flag pictured)" and 198 characters without (I am citing WP:DYKHOOK which states that hooks slightly shorter than 200 characters may still be rejected). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:12, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Also pursuant to WP:DYKHOOK, it also says that character count is "...not including the ... or any (pictured)". I have shortened it a little by changing "bombing" to "air". The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:50, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 17[edit]

How Did I Find Myself Here?

  • Reviewed: I'm on it.

Created by Drmies (talk) and Myuserid (talk). Nominated by Drmies (talk) at 16:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting album, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. The hook is fine, but has too many numbers for my taste. I don't need the "1980s" at the beginning, and by 29 years (or three decades) or whatever, that is even redundant altogether. I'd begin with the attractive title, say what it is, then how much later than the first. Unless you want to focus on the elapsed time, but then bring that to the front. - In the article, I read many historic things but somehow don't hear the music until Reception comes in. May be just me. - Other music, pleasant: some days ago FS said he often uses a red link, I created that, made a hook, and read a better hook in yesterday's paper! This project can be so great! The interview was run by a person with whom I sang in choir, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:52, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Farahnaz Forotan

  • Comment: Proofreading to both the hook of the article are welcome. I wanted to include the fact that apparently she's the youngest recipient of the "Journalist in the country" as a hook, but I have failed to find this in the cited sources.

Created by NoonIcarus (talk). Self-nominated at 13:50, 17 February 2021 (UTC).

  • I have tried to remove the flags but have been unable to find either of the awards mentioned in English language sources. The sources currently given seem to be general news links that no longer support the statements given, but perhaps someone can find better ones. Terrific subject for an article! Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
  • I would suggest that the paragraph about awards be moved to the talk page, with a request for people to find sources that would support its return to the article, so that the DYK process can proceed, without that information. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:07, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Koo App

  • ... that the Koo App shot to prominence after Twitter got into a weeks-long standoff with the government of India? Source:Japan Times article
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Aman.kumar.goel (talk). Self-nominated at 11:00, 17 February 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: Red XN - I checked only three of the sources, and two of them didn't support the relevant assertion. So, eg, where did the assertion that the messages are known as "Koos" come from? Similarly, where was the list of intended further languages sourced?
  • Neutral: Green tickY
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Red XN - Can't tell yet, as the sources for some of the content are unclear.

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg I've added a link and made a minor amendment to the hook. Bahnfrend (talk) 12:22, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

@Bahnfrend: I have addressed above issues with my recent edit. I don't think QPQ is needed because I have less than 5 nominations. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 11:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 18[edit]

New York COVID-19 nursing home scandal

Created by Yousef Raz (talk) and CaliIndie (talk). Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk) at 15:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC).

Spare Time (film)

Spare Time titles
Spare Time titles
  • ... that Humphrey Jennings' film Spare Time (1939) showed an American audience how the British working classes spent their free time?
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: To be done
  • Comment: Just acquired new sources and still working on it

Created by Edwardx (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 11:18, 25 February 2021 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Article requires further expansion and QPQ, but a solid start on a British classic. No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:42, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg I have inserted a purple "maybe" icon since the article does not appear to require considerable work before becoming eligible. Completely rejecting the nomination does not seem correct at this time. Flibirigit (talk) 21:12, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
I think that was probably what No Swan So Fine intended. I have the book needed to expand it (just received) and will work on it shortly. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Yes, sorry for any confusion. I've amended it to a 'maybe'. It'll certainly be fine after some minor work. No Swan So Fine (talk) 13:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Caroling Dusk, An Anthology of Verse by American Negroes, The Book of American Negro Poetry, Negro Poets and Their Poems

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:44, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

  • I will take this up momentarily. Ktin (talk) 05:02, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Please can I request for a restructuring of this article? I feel it does not flow well starting with a table with a count of submissions. The table can come lower in the article if needed. Ktin (talk) 05:06, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Doing... working a background section. Eddie891 Talk Work 13:13, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Ktin, I've moved details around and added a section providing context of the era. Is this better? Eddie891 Talk Work 13:39, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Hi, Ktin, I'd like to belatedly expand this to four noms. Please don't feel obligated to continue the review, as I know it isn't what you signed up for. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:08, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Eddie891: No problem at all. Is it alright if I picked it up later in the day? Thanks Ktin (talk) 14:49, 20 February 2021 (UTC)

Robert R. Glauber

5x expanded by Ktin (talk). Self-nominated at 02:52, 18 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article has been expanded more than fivefold and is nominated timely. It is long enough, well written and well sourced. I found no copyvios. I am assuming good faith on the source for the hooks because of a paywall, but I have no doubt the quote is correct. Both hooks are OK, but I prefer ALT1 because it is a little unclear what "watch Verdi" means. The only thing lacking is a QPQ. Ktin, please ping me when you have done this. -- MelanieN (talk) 19:46, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 19[edit]

Clare Fowler

  • Reviewed: To be done
  • Comment: Slightly late - hope that's OK as it is a strong article

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 09:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is acceptably new enough and is long enough. The hook facts are cited inline apart for the flexible telescope, which I can't find mentioned on page 190 of the source. A telescope is an instrument for seeing distant objects so it is more likely to be an endoscope in my opinion. The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. A QPQ needs to be done. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Tifton Residential Historic District

Created by Doncram (talk). Nominated by GeneralPoxter (talk) at 02:04, 25 February 2021 (UTC).

Article:
Created as a draft on February 19, then moved to the main space.Green tickY
The readable prose consists of 928 characters. The bulleted points do not count as such. (Wikipedia:Article size#Readable prose)Red XN
Hook:
Interesting, the citation checks to page 11 of the provided document.Green tickY
Other: QPQ checks.Green tickY
The readable prose size of the article is an issue here. I would gladly extend a week to improve it in order to pass this DYK.Symbol possible vote.svg--GDuwenHoller! 22:00, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Ah, my bad. I didn't read up on what could be considered part of the byte count. I'll see if I can expand in the near future (thanks for the extension). GeneralPoxter (talk) 22:05, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
No problem there, it is an interesting fact, and it would make a good addition to the DYK section for sure.--GDuwenHoller! 22:18, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Abdallah Oumbadougou

Created by Drmies (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg hi, Drmies, nice work. AGF on non-english sources. Looks like three of the albums under 'discography' are wanting for citations. Eddie891 Talk Work 20:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

Space industry of India

Created by Raymond3023 and expanded by Aman.kumar.goel. Nominated by Aman.kumar.goel (talk) at 05:48, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

  • This is not a full review, just a comment, but I'm not sure this is ready to go. While an "expand" tag is fine, the "rewrite" tag is considered enough of a danger sign to generally stop an article from appearing on the front page at all. I realize you stuck it there yourself, but please resolve the issue. Additionally, I think the article has some mixed focus. The article should, in my opinion, specifically be on the industry side - corporations, factories, construction, that kind of thing, yet there's some parts that just seem to recap what ISRO has done. I realize that ISRO contracts are probably very closely tied to this, but I'd be careful about drawing a line to avoid repetition or unclear focus. Finally, I think the hook can use some work - what does launching a satellite "for" a country even mean? Were these contracts with national governments other than India? Or just any business involving entities from outside India? Did these launches use homegrown tech, or were these pre-assembled gear from elsewhere that just happened to be launched in India because it's at the right latitude? Source isn't really clear, it seems like puffery. SnowFire (talk) 05:04, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
  • @Aman.kumar.goel: Did you see the above? Per the instructions, please add the nomination page to the watchlist to see comments. If you disagree with my comments that's fine but some sort of response is expected to avoid a reject on the hook. SnowFire (talk) 09:05, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
* the "rewrite" tag is considered enough of a danger sign to generally stop an article from appearing on the front page at all. It was me actually. I yet have planned to expand article and rewrite that section in a much better. But not have been getting sufficient time for a while. Better I do it now. Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 11:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
SnowFire You may further proceed your reveiw now. Regards Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 12:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 20[edit]

Robert T. Kerlin

  • ... that the educator Robert T. Kerlin was fired from work at three universities for his activism? Source: [32]

Created by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:25, 20 February 2021 (UTC).

Eddie891 after reading the article and one of the sources, I think it would be more hook-worthy if you wrote a specific hook about why he was fired, what the activism was, etc. — Maile (talk) 19:58, 20 February 2021 (UTC)


  • I'm fine with ALT1, Maile66, thanks for suggesting it. I agree the specific is more hook-y, just wasn't sure the best way to phrase it. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment: For ALT1, "overseers" seems overstrong perhaps as sources say white landlords. Also "Congo barbarity" is the term Kerlin used to described the unjust treatment of the farmers, not what the farmers were rioting against. gobonobo + c 05:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Nationality, religion, and language data for the provinces of Thailand

Created by Futurist110 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:52, 20 February 2021 (UTC).

By the way, an alternative hook for this –which I myself actually like better than my original hook here–could be this:
I have now reviewed this DYK? nomination here: Template:Did you know nominations/Jasmin Taylor. Futurist110 (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 21[edit]

United Airlines Flight 328

The airplane in 2012
The airplane in 2012

Created by Kencf0618 (talk), AnAUsedSubcompact (talk), and WikiPediaAid (talk). Nominated by AllegedlyHuman (talk) at 05:00, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg QPQ not needed for a new nominator. As long as the sources are cleaned up, I think this could be good to go, maybe with some modifications to the hook. SounderBruce 05:13, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

I've removed the social media sources from the article; it seemed to be no issue, as all sentences they were attributed to had independent reliable sources as well. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 05:40, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
@AllegedlyHuman: There are still quite a few problematic sources: BroomfieldPD Twitter, Flightradar24, Aviation-Safety Wiki, AirFleets.net, one YouTube video, and Aerossurance, among others. These need to be replaced. SounderBruce 04:03, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Well, I was telling the truth when I said I removed those sources before–but it seems several less competent editors have added them in different places in the time since. I've taken another stab at it, though. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 14:30, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

If We Must Die

5x expanded by Eddie891 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:45, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment: How is this "Created by..." as the article dates to 2017??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by David notMD (talk • contribs) 05:40, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
David notMD (I think) actually it’s 5x expanded , I’ve amended accordingly. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

River Poddle

  • ... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of Dean Swift of Gulliver's Travels and his friend Stella - and a pool on the same river gave Dublin its name? Source: Swift and Stella - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53.
    Name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...)

** ALT2:... that Dubh Linn, a peaty pool on the River Poddle where it joins the Liffey, gave Dublin its name, and the same river was also the city's main source of water for over half a millennium? Source: Dubh Linn pool, peatiness and city name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...), Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.

    • ALT3:... that the River Poddle was the main source of water for Dublin homes and industrial users for over 500 years, and had its own tax to manage flooding risk from the time of Charles II? Source: Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
    • ALT4:... that the River Poddle's role in the growth of Dublin is referenced multiple times in James Joyce's Finnegans Wake, and that the name of the city comes from a pool on that river? Source: Joycean aspects - D'Arcy, Anne MArie (2013). "Vartryville: Dublin's Water Supply and Joyce's Sublation of Local Givernment". The Joyce Studies Annual. 2013: 252–294, Name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...)
    • ALT5:... that the River Poddle, main water source of the city of Dublin for over 500 years, was later so polluted by industry that it allegedly killed cattle and horses drinking from it? Source: Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc., Pollution - McEntee, Don; Corcoran, Michael (2016). "5 (The Poddle)". The Rivers Dodder & Poddle (Dublin City History Engineering, 3) (1st ed.). Dublin, Ireland: Four Courts Press. pp. 51–63.
    • ALT6:... that flooding by the River Poddle led to the moving of the graves of satirist Jonathan Swift and his partner Stella Johnson within St Patrick's Cathedral, Dublin?
    • ALT7:... that the River Poddle was the main source of water for half a millennium for Dublin, the city being named from a "dark pool" on the river? Source: Dubh Linn pool, peatiness and city name - Little, George A. (1945–1946). "Pre-Norse Dublin - Part 1: The Name". Dublin Historical Record. 8 (1): 1–4. Dubh .. meaning dark or black .. and lin(n) .. not merely as "pool" but as "riverpool" ( ...flows through boglands which supply to the water their dark amber hue...), Role in city - Doyle, Joseph W. (January 2018). The Rivers and Streams of the Dublin Region. Dublin, Ireland: Rath Eanna Research. pp. 50–53 / also Sweeney, Clair L. and also McEntee and Corcoran, etc.
  • Comment: Expanded in recent days, 5x per DYK Check (and that's without 1036 additional characters not counted by DYK check per known issue with bulleted lines).

Sorry for so many hooks, but there are many angles to the Poddle. 8th nomination, QPQ applicable and performed a couple of weeks back - Template:Did you know nominations/Konrad Rupf

5x expanded by SeoR (talk). Self-nominated at 21:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC).

Ernest R. Fatland

Source: On 21 January 1980, Ernest R. Fatland’s obituary in the Capital Journal (subscription required) reported: "During the Great Depression of the 1930s, Fatland served on the Gillian County Debt Adjustment Committee, helping to persuade creditors to scale down their bills to save farmer’s from bankruptcy." Another, article in the Heppner Gazette-Times, dated 5 April 1934, says Fartland was "chairman of the Gillian County Debt Adjustment Committee…" (i.e. the organization’s leader).

Created by Orygun (talk). Self-nominated at 23:36, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 22[edit]

Ringyuichon Vashum

Ringyuichon Vashum
Ringyuichon Vashum

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 16:48, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

Reindeer Station

  • ... that Andrew Bahr drove a herd of 3,000 reindeer from Nome, Alaska to Reindeer Station, earning the nickname "The Arctic Moses"? Source: "After three years on the trail, only two thousand reindeer were still with the herd. Hundreds had frozen to death, hundreds more bolted and were never recovered, and countless others were weakened by insects and devoured by wolves. The drive was years behind schedule, and all Bahr, who by now had earned the nickname “The Arctic Moses,” could tell the Lomens and the Canadian officials was that he was “making haste slowly.”" [33]
  • Reviewed: This is my second of 5 DYK nominations.

Created by Awmcphee (talk). Self-nominated at 05:58, 26 February 2021 (UTC).


Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg @Awmcphee: Nice work on this page. The only small issue is there are a few sentences that paraphrase somewhat closely. Otherwise this is good to go. Epicgenius (talk) 03:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Great Mosque of Tlemcen

  • ... that the ornamental dome of the Great Mosque of Tlemcen is considered one of the most exceptional examples of Almoravid architecture? Source: Almagro, Antonio (2015). "The Great Mosque of Tlemcen and the Dome of its Maqsura". Al-Qantara, vol. 36. Article can be downloaded directly here. Hook supported in opening line: "The dome covering the space adjoining the mihrab of the great mosque of Tlemcen together with its adornments, have always been considered as one of the most outstanding works of art of the Almoravids."
  • Reviewed: Barnham Court (Feb 18)
  • Comment: Expanded on February 22-23; I did a rough count (by copy-pasting into MS Word) and counted 537 characters in the last version before this (Nov 10) and 6039 in the current prose. PS: the words "considered one of" could be replaced with "among" to be slightly shorter but I wasn't sure if this was clear enough wording.

5x expanded by R Prazeres (talk). Self-nominated at 20:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

KOKL

5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC).

  • I'll review this one. The first review will be up by tomorrow. -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 19:59, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Groover's Paradise

McDonough, Jack October 26, 1974, Billboard DSR: Abum and QS 'on tour' producers

Created by GDuwen (talk). Self-nominated at 20:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 23[edit]

A Bitter Heritage (Playhouse 90)

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:50, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - hook probably needs a link to Jesse James; non-Americans may not follow who "Jesse James Jr." is.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The article relies on extensive citations from ctva.biz, which may not be a reliable source. Generally, the plot is not sourced in articles, but this reference is used on the "Production" section, where it lists the producer, director and writer, and when it was aired. Perhaps we can get another reference for this paragraph. There's also an empty "Reception" section. If this will be filled up later on, that's better because the article prose is exactly 1,500 characters, not including the footnotes ("[1]"). I suppose this can lengthen the article some more for it to surpass the 1,500 threshold. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Mark F. Pomerantz

  • ... that attorney Mark F. Pomerantz, who once supervised the prosecution of mob boss John A. Gotti, is now assisting with a criminal investigation into the finances of Donald Trump? (Sources: "Mr. Pomerantz returned to the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office to head the criminal division between 1997 and 1999, overseeing major securities fraud and organized crime cases, perhaps most prominently against John A. Gotti, the Gambino boss."[34] ; "As the Manhattan district attorney’s office steps up the criminal investigation of Donald J. Trump, it has reached outside its ranks to enlist a prominent former federal prosecutor to help scrutinize financial dealings at the former president’s company, according to several people with knowledge of the matter. The former prosecutor, Mark F. Pomerantz, has deep experience investigating and defending white-collar and organized crime cases."[35])
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by MelanieN (talk) and Neutrality (talk). Self-nominated at 23:36, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Welcome to Heartbreak

5x expanded by Kyle Peake (talk). Self-nominated at 08:43, 23 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Note: I nominated this article back when I did not know the expansion level had to be five times larger; however, I have made it a GAN and I am expecting a review shortly so I will change the expanded text to reading improved to GA status instead, plus for whoever reviews this I presume you can have it on hold for that long. --K. Peake 09:30, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 24[edit]

Karl Schuke

Organ in the Gedächtniskirche
Organ in the Gedächtniskirche
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: Sorry, I'm a day late - again. I struggled all day yesterday to make a viola player fit for DYK and failed - and forgot this one. - If the image is a problem as the Commons say because of the stained glass, can we perhaps make a crop which leaves so little blue that it's no longer a piece of art? - The two places are Berlin landmarks of architecture after World War II, - I'd love to mention how international the workshop operates but it would get too long. See pics of their organs - some day we should translate the workshop article.

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 08:23, 4 March 2021 (UTC).

Jakob Grün

Jakob Grün
Jakob Grün
  • Reviewed: Patricia Delgado
  • Comment: Most sources devote much room to the discrimination in Hannover because he was Jewish, but it's actually a better story about Joachim who quit in solidarity, while Grün is passive in it, and is pictured later. The students educated in Vienna for 31 years are impressive, but not welcome with our audience, also the other image is not as good.

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 19:14, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

RealSports Baseball

  • ... that the Atari 2600 version of RealSports Baseball received a "certificate of merit" in the "Best Sports Videogame" category at the 1984 Arkie Awards, while the 5200 version received one at the 1985 Arkie Awards? 1984 award can be seen here a p.72, 1985 award can be seen here at p.28
  • Comment: This is my first DYK nom, please be gentle!

Created by FOARP (talk). Self-nominated at 19:11, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

  • clock In progress I've read through and will submit a review.—Bagumba (talk) 03:30, 3 March 2021 (UTC)


Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - no
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Nice, nostalgic read. For the hook, there are more interesting options than a "certificate of merit", which appears to be the equivalent of an honorable mention. Suggestions include (but are not limited to) the game being a response to Intellivision or an upgarde to Home Run. —Bagumba (talk) 03:48, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

sufficiently hookified? FOARP (talk) 09:46, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
@FOARP: Almost there. There's a 200 character limit, so I'd suggest removing the specific publications from the hook (they still need to be added and sourced in the article). Atari should be in the hook (e.g. "that RealSports Baseball, Atari's response to ...) Remove "aggressive" from the hook (if not the article too). The Main Page draws more WP:NPOV / WP:OR scrutiny, and it would need more sources to meet WP:DUE.—Bagumba (talk) 10:32, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Hmm... having problems verifying that second best sports game award as it's not clear what magazine is being referred to, VGU renamed itself Computer Entertainer so it's already mentioned in the article. Better keep it to 1983. FOARP (talk) 14:06, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
@FOARP: From the source, it was an award for 1983 that was published in a 1984 issue. It's debatable for the hook to say it was won in 1983, "for 1983" seems more accurate. Also, the year is unclear in the current WP article prose. For hook 1b, "award" and "awards" is repetitive. Finally, the name of the publication from the source's first page is strangely "The Video Game Update includes Video Entertainer". On p.159, it reads "All awards are at the sole discretion of "THE VIDEO GAME UPDATE ..." Not directly related to the hook, but perhaps it was still more known as Video Game Update at the time of the award.—Bagumba (talk) 11:54, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Many thanks for the feedback and apologies for putting you through all these revisions. I'll update the article to note that CE was also known as VGU and clarify the year of award in the prose. Hook updated per your comments -

Charles Joseph Bonaparte

  • ... that Charles Joseph Bonaparte, great-nephew to Napoleon I, founded the Bureau of Investigation during his time as U.S Attorney General, which would later become the Federal Bureau of Investigation? Source: Findlay, James G. (November 19, 1943). "Memorandum for the Director: Re: Early History of the Bureau of Investigation, United States Department of Justice". Historical Documents from the Bureau's Founding. Los Angeles, CA: Federal Bureau of Investigation. Archived from the original on July 3, 2012. Retrieved August 14, 2012

Created by MJV479 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:29, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Carol Breen

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:34, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

WNVL

5x expanded by Sammi Brie (talk). Self-nominated at 01:22, 24 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 25[edit]

Around the World in 90 Minutes (Playhouse 90)

Newspaper ad for Around the World in 90 Minutes
Newspaper ad for Around the World in 90 Minutes
  • ... that Around the World in 90 Minutes featured Elizabeth Taylor cutting a 30-foot-long cake, Walter Cronkite reporting, and Hubert Humphrey delivering a speech? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC).

The Mystery of Thirteen (Playhouse 90)

Murderer William Palmer
Murderer William Palmer
  • ... that Jack Lemmon starred in The Mystery of Thirteen as a real-life physician (pictured) who Charles Dickens called "the greatest villain that ever stood in the Old Bailey"? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:08, 4 March 2021 (UTC).

Amber McReynolds

Created by Reywas92 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:00, 27 February 2021 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg In the source you cite, "millions" is not mentioned. Might be worth clarifying/linking "the pandemic" in the hook. Eddie891 Talk Work 00:48, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy ping Reywas92 Eddie891 Talk Work 00:53, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Eddie891 The Fulcrum includes more info about usage. "that Amber McReynolds helped millions of people vote from home in the 2020 United States elections during the pandemic?" Reywas92Talk 04:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg I started to review this and reduced some over referencing. I was about to wave this through when I saw a) it was being reviewed and b) the ibox which assumes that she will be appointed. Surely this breaks the no crystal ball rule. If she is notable just for being a nominee then fine, but the article should finish at that point with "in 2021 she was one of the Presidential nominations for ...". Victuallers (talk) 16:05, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
What do you mean "assumes"? She *has* been appointed [39], and I've undone your edit because it's present tense that she IS a nominee and the original version was correct. The infobox clearly notes she is a nominee and there is no crystal ball violation. She is notable for the combination of significant coverage she's received as a presidential appointment and as head of NVAHI. Reywas92Talk 19:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
The ref you mention says "Announces Nominee". That is not an appointment. You seem to merge the two ideas. Why do you say she has been appointed when she is a nominoee? Which is correct? Victuallers (talk) 06:14, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
There is not a single word in the article that is wrong so I don't know what you're still getting at. If the presidential appointment process is completed when the Senate confirms them and the president signs their commission, the article is accurate to say "who is a nominee", it is accurate to have "nominee" in the infobox, and it is accurate to use the subjunctive "that he would appoint McReynolds." Even if my statement above conflated the terms, the infobox does not "assume that she will be appointed", because it clearly says "Nominee" and assumption of office is still TBD. This is consistent with Merrick Garland, Deb Haaland, Xavier Becerra, etc. etc. and does not violate crystal ball. So can you please approve this for DYK? Reywas92Talk 07:35, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
I withdraw my query. Thank you Reywas92 for the explanation. I would approve but I think Eddie891has first dibs. Sorry to have delayed your nom. Victuallers (talk) 08:56, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Track 5 (Taylor Swift)

  • ... that fans consider track 5 on a Taylor Swift album to be special? Source: "a pattern started to emerge of track five denoting the moment on each of her albums where Taylor really, fully gets cathartic ... there is a certain vulnerability that comes with a Taylor Swift track five, and there is always a heightened level of anticipation for what these songs will hold." ([40])

Created by PublicWriterABC (talk). Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 22:46, 26 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The outcome of the AFD was to merge this article. As the article no longer exists as a separate article, it is no longer eligible for DYK. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:19, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on February 26[edit]

The 80 Yard Run (Playhouse 90)

  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:48, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Shah Abdul Latif Bhittai

Statue of Shah Abdul Latif
Statue of Shah Abdul Latif

5x expanded by AhmadLX (talk). Self-nominated at 22:49, 4 March 2021 (UTC).

Sex as a biological variable

  • ... that research incorporating sex as a biological variable enhances the rigor and reproducibility of results? Source: "Sex as a biological variable (SABV) is a key part of the new National Institutes of Health (NIH) initiative to enhance reproducibility through rigor and transparency...Having greater awareness of the roles that sex and gender play in health and disease will help the entire medical scientific enterprise achieve more clarity and enhance rigor and reproducibility.[41], "To produce precise and reproducible results applicable for both men and women, sex should be considered as an important biological variable from basic and preclinical research." [42]
    • ALT1:... that the European Commission, Canadian Institutes of Health Research, and the National Institutes of Health have all instituted sex as a biological variable policies to enhance scientific rigor and reproducibility? Source: "Recently, funding organizations including the European Commission (EC), Canadian Institutes of Health Research (CIHR), and the US National Institutes of Health (NIH) put efforts into influencing researchers to integrate sex and gender in the whole study processes from hypothesis to publication." "To produce precise and reproducible results applicable for both men and women, sex should be considered as an important biological variable from basic and preclinical research." [43]

Created by TJMSmith (talk). Self-nominated at 14:09, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl

Created by Anarchyte (talk). Self-nominated at 05:25, 1 March 2021 (UTC).

Maha Jaafar

  • ... that Maha Jaafar, a Sudanese-Iraqi dentistry student has attracted almost two million views for mimicking Arabic dialects and stereotypes on YouTube, just to "have fun with her friends"? Source: “It all happened by coincidence; I was sitting through my final year of dentistry when I posted one video to have fun with my friends,” she says. [1]
    • ALT1:... that Maha Jaafar, a UNICEF Sudan National Ambassador, has been credited to help unite people in the Middle East through her comedy sketches on YouTube? Source: "As a fellow of YouTube’s Creators for Change programme, which is aimed at individuals who promote “empathy and understanding,” she is often credited to helping unite people and their cultures through her content."[2]

Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:39, 26 February 2021 (UTC).

References

  1. ^ "Meet Maha Jaafar, the UAE vlogger helping to clean up YouTube's reputation". The National. 2018-01-28. Retrieved 2021-02-26.
  2. ^ "UNICEF Sudan names Maha Jaafar as new National Ambassador for children's rights". www.unicef.org. Retrieved 2021-02-26.

Begum v Home Secretary

Created/expanded by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 18:01, 27 February 2021 (UTC).

Audrey Forlani

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:57, 27 February 2021 (UTC).

  • in progress - length is fine. QPQ done, more than enough refs, I have added extra facts and an extra hook. An overcheck by a French speaker would be appreciated e.g, Can we include the "brain" word in the article/hook? Sadly no image which is a pity as she's all over google images. ALT2 is not very hooky and I'm not sure that she works in a "farm shop". She may sell fertiliser or tractor oil to farmers. ALT1 is fine but I sharpened the hook. No evidence seen of close paraphrasing. Victuallers (talk) 17:18, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

Washington State Route 539

Improved to Good Article status by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 05:17, 27 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is a recent GA, is long enough, and stable. I find the first hook the most interesting. I couldn't verify the name due to a paywall with the source. Could you provide an excerpt? For such a claim though, I would hope there would be a better source to use than a newspaper article that appears to casually mention this while talking about a different subject (a nearby park). Grk1011 (talk) 16:54, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
  • @Grk1011: The clipping and page should be free to view without an account. This was the only source I could find, as this is a niche subject, but is reliable and still of adequate quality. SounderBruce 22:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
  • @SounderBruce:, I'm having some trouble with the ref. I think I can read it (right side, lower corner), but it doesn't seem to explicitly state that Route 539 is called the Guide Meridian. Can you clarify? Grk1011 (talk) 19:04, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
  • @Grk1011: You can click through to see the full page. It doesn't specifically call out 539 because the name continues beyond the state designation. SounderBruce 04:33, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
  • This wouldn't be notable, as any straight-line road follows some sort of survey meridian. Named guide meridians are less common, and having a road named for one is very rare. SounderBruce 02:13, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
  • I'd like to wait for a second opinion then. I don't feel that In Whatcom County, Guide Meridian is exactly 12 miles east of, and parallel to, the Willamette Meridian properly backs up the claim. Why "Guide"? Where I live we don't have many straight roads, so it's not very obvious to me that any straight road would need to follow a meridian. Grk1011 (talk) 15:15, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
  • @Grk1011: "Guide Meridian" (all capitalized) in the newspaper source refers to the road's name, not a generic "guide meridian", so it should support the statement. SounderBruce 06:43, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Tamar (poem)

Created by Ffranc (talk). Nominated by Ashleyyoursmile (talk) at 10:07, 26 February 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on February 27[edit]

Arora Akanksha

  • ... that Arora Akanksha is the first millennial candidate for Secretary-General of the United Nations? Source: "She is the first person known to officially challenge an incumbent seeking a second term, and the first millennial-generation candidate."[46]
    • ALT1:... that Arora Akanksha, the first millennial candidate for Secretary-General of the United Nations, is a UN auditor who believes the organisation is wasteful and ineffective? Source: "Ms. Arora’s message, she said, is that the United Nations is sclerotic, wasteful, adrift, paternalistic and patronizing...'We are not living up to our purpose or our promise,' the letter stated. 'We are failing those we are here to serve.'"[47]

Created by Ganesha811 (talk) and Mx. Granger (talk). Nominated by Mx. Granger (talk) at 16:45, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

St. Clair Parkway

5x expanded by Floydian (talk). Self-nominated at 05:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Zameen (novel)

  • ... that the English translation of the novel Zameen is titled A Promised Land?
    Source: "A Promised Land, translated by Daisy Rockwell ... Khadija Mastur's posthumous novel Zameen ..." [48]

Created by Idell (talk). Self-nominated at 21:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg This article requires considerable work before becoming eligible. @Idell: You could improve the article by adding a brief plot summary, reception section, characters, analysis etc. Currently, it is very small article which ineligible for DYK. --Gazal world (talk) 09:11, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
    @Gazal world: Sure, but the article will become older than seven days, will that be an issue? Idell (talk) 10:33, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
    Article history says that the article was created on 27 Feb, and was nominated for DYK on 4 March. So it is OK. P.S: The hook is just a random fact. Improve the article, and find out some interesting hook. --Gazal world (talk) 10:49, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

African American scientists and technicians on the Manhattan Project

Blanche Lawrence, "Atom Scientist"
Blanche Lawrence, "Atom Scientist"

Created by Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk). Self-nominated at 20:16, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg @Mary Mark Ockerbloom: Interesting topic! New and long enough, within policy, Earwig finds no copyvios (only direct quotes match). There are more interesting facts in the article than the hooks above. It's interesting that even though there was an executive order prohibiting discrimination, African American workers still faced segregation outside and sometimes within the federal installations. Or maybe showcase some of the accomplishments of the individual scientists. John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 04:43, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Lisa Martin (rugby union)

  • ... that in 2008, Scottish rugby union player Lisa Martin captained the side to their first victory in Ireland for 12 years? Source: [49] "Martin played a part in the Scotland Women’s best Women’s Six Nations finish in seven years in 2017 and their first away win in twelve year’s versus Ireland at Donnybrook in 2018."
    • ALT1:... that Scottish rugby union player and former captain Lisa Martin has also played club rugby in England and France? Source: [50] "Last season, Martin fulfilled a life-long dream of becoming a full-time rugby player when she signed for French side, Lille Metropole Rugby Club Villeneuvois, but it shows her class that Saracens head coach, Alex Austerberry, jumped at the chance to sign the former Scotland captain when she became available."

Created by Joseph2302 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg article is new enough, long enough, no obvious copyvio. QPQ checks out too. Both hooks are fine, although I prefer the first one. The only thing here for me is that "the side" is unclear. You may need to include "international" in there after "Scottish" or "national" before "side" to make it unambiguous what "side" she was captaining. Fair enough? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 22:11, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on February 28[edit]

Paul Rolan

  • ... that Paul Rolan has been Principal Investigator in over 700 clinical research studies of new medicines? Source: "He has been principal investigator in over 700 clinical pharmacology studies including 70 first-in-man studies." ([51] doi:10.2217/pmt.12.12)
    • ALT1:... that Paul Rolan investigates the links between the immune system and chronic pain? Source: "A unique partnership between two of the University of Adelaide's senior medical researchers is edging closer to finding new treatments for chronic pain ... Professor Paul Rolan and Dr Mark Hutchinson have combined their different specialist skills to prove a link between pain and the brain's immune system" ([52])

Moved to mainspace by Gronk Oz (talk). Self-nominated at 07:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Italo-Byzantine

Madonna and Child, Berlinghiero, c. 1230
Madonna and Child, Berlinghiero, c. 1230
  • ... that Vasari disliked the "clumsy Greek style" of Italo-Byzantine painting (example pictured) that preceded the Renaissance? Omissi, Adrastos, "Byzantium and Italian Renaissance Art": "Giorgio Vasari, the Italian painter turned historian, whose 1550 Lives of the Most Excellent Painters, Sculptors, and Architects, from Cimabue to Our Times essentially defined the renaissance – the rinascita – as a rejection of ‘that clumsy Greek style’ (quella greca goffa maniera) and the creation of a new naturalism that captured the human form in ways not known before"; see also Voulgaropoulou, Margarita, "From Domestic Devotions to the Church Altar: Venerating Icons in the Late Medieval and Early Modern Adriatic", in Ryan, Salvador (ed), Domestic Devotions in Medieval and Early Modern Europe, 2020, MDPI Books, (reprint from Religions in 2019), online top of p. 203.

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self-nominated at 03:11, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Bahattin Hekimoğlu

  • ... that Turkish world and European champion para archer Bahattin Hekimoğlu closed himself at home for two years after he broke his neck and got paralyzed? Source: "Hekimoğlu, Avrupa'da da şampiyon olduktan sonra dünya şampiyonu olmayı başardı." (in Turkish) [53], "Boynu kırılan Hekimoğlu,", "Geçirdiği ameliyatın ardından artık felç olduğunu öğrenen Hekimoğlu, iki yıl kendisini eve kapattı." (in Turkish) [54]

Created/expanded by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 06:33, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

A City Called Copenhagen

5x expanded by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:27, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

Broad front versus narrow front controversy in World War II

General Dwight D. Eisenhower
General Dwight D. Eisenhower

Created by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:57, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article was recently promoted to GA. Overall article sourcing, neutrality, and plagiarism is assumed to have been covered during the GAN. The picture is acceptable, but most people know what Eisenhower looks like, so I'm not sure it adds much. My main concerns are about phrasing and interestingness.

Regarding phrasing, "polemics" is uncommon, anachronistic language that also mirrors the source a little uncomfortably closely, so I'd suggest a different word choice. The meaning of "broad front versus narrow front" also might be a bit unclear to or require a bit of inference from non-expert readers, so if you can think of a way to concisely explain it, that might be good (if not, it's alright enough).

Regarding interestingness, it's not bad (and my standards are stricter than most DYK reviewers), but I'd be curious to hear if you have any ALTs. You seemed to begin an ALT1 but didn't fill it out. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 05:44, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Originally I intended to use the quote, but it was too long.
  • I don't normally offer up ALTs because they deter reviewers.
  • I'm not sure Ike is that well known any more; you'd have to be a boomer or someone who reads 20th century history to remember him.

Hawkeye7 (discuss) 07:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg The original hook doesn't read right because a decision is not a controversy. Ike's decision was to stick to a broad front. The controversy was the debate before and after. Ruppenthal's quote expresses this more accurately: "Of all decisions made at the level of the Supreme Allied Commander in western Europe during World War II, perhaps none has excited more polemics than that which raised the 'one-thrust-broad front' controversy." Squeezing all this into a hook seems challenging, so let's try some controversial ALTs:

  • ALT1 ... that during an argument about his broad front, Ike (pictured) put his hand on Monty's knee? Source: "Pulling Eisenhower’s recent signals from his pocket, he exclaimed, 'They’re balls, sheer balls, rubbish!' Perhaps only Eisenhower would have the forbearance to sit in stony silence while a subordinate verbally assaulted him. When Montgomery at last paused for breath, Eisenhower put his hand on Montgomery’s knee and gently said, 'Steady, Monty! You can’t speak to me like that. I’m your boss.'".[56]
Field Marshal Sir Bernard Montgomery
Field Marshal Sir Bernard Montgomery

Andrew🐉(talk) 11:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

  • These sound fine. (I'm inclined towards the second.) I've provided an online source for checking. Changed "orders" to "messages". Montgomery never disobeyed orders, but Eisenhower was reluctant to issue them. As the article points out, Montgomery was the senior officer even though Eisenhower was the boss. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:45, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
    Good. As a further tweak, I suggest "signals" rather than "messages". It is slightly shorter, follows the source and works a bit better as a hook, IMO – more likely to get the reader wondering what was going on.
@Sdkb: As the primary reviewer, you should please check these ALTs. I can't approve them myself as I'm too involved.
Andrew🐉(talk) 23:48, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Andrew Davidson, sorry, I'm not a fan of using first names like that; it doesn't seem encyclopedic. Your alts are also missing the very core context that we're talking about WW2. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 00:10, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

G. E. L. Owen

Martha Nussbaum in 2008
Martha Nussbaum in 2008
  • ... that the philosopher G. E. L. Owen was described by Martha Nussbaum (pictured) as "an alcoholic and an attempted womaniser"? Source: My thesis adviser, G. E. L. Owen, was a brilliant scholar of ancient Greek philosophy. He was also an alcoholic and an attempted womaniser. Nussbaum (2003) 97.

5x expanded by Modussiccandi (talk). Self-nominated at 00:07, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

  • Comment: You could add the high quality photo of Nussbaum to the hook. Although I know this is more focused Owen than her.TJMSmith (talk) 04:07, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, that's not a bad idea at all. Modussiccandi (talk) 09:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 1[edit]

Aedes de Venustas

Aedes de Venustas store window at 9 Christopher Street in 2013
Aedes de Venustas store window at 9 Christopher Street in 2013
  • ... that the signature fragrance of Aedes de Venustas perfumery (store window, pictured) is based on rhubarb and tomato leaf? Source: "....aroma that surpasses any single ingredient's scent ... tomato leaf ...green, rhubarb core" Vanity Fair
    • ALT1:... that perfumery Aedes de Venustas (store window, pictured) has two fragrances named after the store and both were created by Bertrand Duchaufour? Source, 2012: "To create the first stand-alone fragrance for New York’s beloved olfactory boutique__Aedes de Venustas__, proprietor Robert Gerstner said, he and partner Karl Bradl, along with perfumer Bertrand Duchaufour..." (Vanity Fair) and 2008: “A scent that L'Artisan developed in conjunction with Aedes de Venustas the perfume boutique located in New York will be unveiled at the shop...bringing in Duchaufour has given L'Artisan more freedom to do custom collaborations.” (["L'Artisan Looks to the Power of Three" Women’s Wear Daily, paywalled])

Moved to mainspace by Innisfree987 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:55, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Elsa Dreisig

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:39, 4 March 2021 (UTC).

Jake Funk

  • ... that Maryland running back Jake Funk had his best college season after tearing his ACL in the two previous seasons? Source: "Funk overcame torn ACLs (one in each knee) the last two years to have his career year in 2020."
    • ALT1:... that Maryland running back Jake Funk's grandmother Jean was one of the first female athletes for Penn State, competing on the men's rifle team? Source: "grandmother, Jean, was one of the first female athletes at Penn State, competing for the men's rifle team"

Created by Etzedek24 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:18, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 2[edit]

Dalby Church

Dalby Church
Dalby Church
  • ... that Dalby Church (pictured) in Sweden may once have been part of a Danish royal palace complex? Source: Andrén 2012, p. 359 makes the claim most forecully.
    • ALT1:... that Dalby Church (pictured) is sometimes claimed to be the oldest stone church in the Nordic countries still in use? Source: Dahlberg & Sjöstrom 2015, p. 57, for example. Several sources quoted in the article, making this claim.

Improved to Good Article status by Yakikaki (talk). Self-nominated at 22:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

Relapse 2

Converted from a redirect by RealFakeKim (talk). Self-nominated at 15:12, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

List of international goals scored by Dwayne De Rosario

Created by SounderBruce (talk). Self-nominated at 04:47, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg nice list, no copyvio, looks good. A couple of things: (a) the actual sport Dwayne plays isn't mentioned in the hook and (b) is there an overall source which dates more recently than 2015 for him still being Canada's top scorer? I don't doubt he is but six years is a long time for someone else to have potentially crept past him. Even the RSSSF source is dated from two years ago. Is there a list of Canada's top scorers overall we could find? Also need a QPQ of course. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:13, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
  • @The Rambling Man: Fixed the hook, added a source from 2019, and added a QPQ. Unfortunately, Canada has had terrible luck in international soccer (scoring once in 13 games in 2013, for example), but is on the upswing as of late, so this record could be surpassed sometime in the decade. SounderBruce 02:12, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

EMER-K1

  • ... that the EMER-K1 was created by Myanmar because China refused to ship further QBZ-97 assault rifles due to sanctions?
    • ALT1:... that the EMER-K1 was created by Myanmar when QBZ-97 assault rifles sold to them were reverse engineered?

Created by Ominae (talk). Self-nominated at 08:29, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

  • Starting review:

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg the article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, adequately cited and neutrally written. Earwig's tool did not detect any copyvio. AGF for ALT0 ( offline source), the other hook is appropriately sourced. QPQ not done! As soon as a QPQ will be done, I will give the ok. Alex2006 (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Efforts to impeach Andrew Johnson

Andrew Johnson
Andrew Johnson

Created by SecretName101 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:29, 3 March 2021 (UTC).

  • Cbl62, two malformed hooks were proposed. I've added properly formatted versions. Also pinging SecretName101 regarding your other query. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 16:02, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

It's an appropriate standalone article because it largely details efforts to impeach Johnson separate from his actual 1968 impeachment. Much like efforts to impeach Donald Trump largely describes efforts to impeach him separate from the two impeachments he actually received. The "previous efforts to impeach" section on the article about Johnson's impeachment did not even exist until after this article (which discusses those efforts in greater detail) was written SecretName101 (talk) 18:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, and sourced. Hooks are short enough, sufficiently interesting, and supported by citation. No QPQ requirement -- three prior DYKs.
One issue requires attention. Earwig detected a few instances of close paraphrasing with the House History web site (here). Nothing egregious but a little work would be appropriate to address this.
Example 1. Wikipedia: "Around this same time, in 1866, the popular Major General Benjamin Butler, a candidate for the House, regularly denounced Johnson from the stump and called for his removal from office.." House History: "the popular Major General Benjamin F. Butler, at the time a candidate for the House, routinely denounced the President from the stump and called for Johnson’s removal."
Example 2. Wikipedia: "Based upon Ashley’s impeachment resolution, the Judiciary Committee began gathered evidence from witnesses in closed sessions. While the committee did run out of time, with the 39th Congress expiring, they ruled that they had received “sufficient testimony” to continue their investigation in the new 40th Congress." House History: "Working from Ashley’s impeachment resolution, the Judiciary Committee receded from the public spotlight as it gathered evidence from witnesses in closed sessions. Eventually the committee ran out of time and the 39th Congress came to an end. But the committee had gathered “sufficient testimony” to continue the investigation in the new 40th Congress".
Example 3. Wikipedia: "President Johnson kept secret tabs on the House impeachment inquiry through the Pinkerton Detective Agency." House History: "Johnson secretly kept tabs on the House impeachment inquiry using the Pinkerton Detective Agency." Cbl62 (talk) 19:56, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Example 3. Wikipedia: "...offering Republicans a chance to register their displeasure with Johnson, without actually formally impeaching him." House History: "... allowing Republicans to register their displeasure with the Johnson without committing to impeachment."

Cbl62 (talk) 19:56, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

I felt I could be a little looser with paraphrasing, since, as a work of an officer of the United States government as part of their job, the work featured on the House of Representatives website is not copyright-protected, and is therefore public domain. SecretName101 (talk) 21:23, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
I have revised example one, however. SecretName101 (talk) 21:27, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 3[edit]

LeRoy Woodson

Polluted stream in Alabama
Polluted stream in Alabama

Created by Gobonobo (talk). Self-nominated at 03:55, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Andrew Russell Murray

Created by Iainmacintyre (talk). Self-nominated at 14:34, 4 March 2021 (UTC).

2002 Football League Third Division play-off Final

5x expanded by The Rambling Man (talk). Self-nominated at 21:17, 3 March 2021 (UTC).

Chinatown MRT station

  • ... that constructing Chinatown station required diverting the Eu Tong Sen Canal into steel pipes, one of Singapore's largest drainage diversions? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that instead of demolishing the Garden Bridge for the construction of Chinatown station, the cultural landmark was underpinned by massive steel trusses? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT2:... that the artwork at Chinatown station features Chinese calligraphy on the floor instead of the walls in auspicious positions?

Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:06, 3 March 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 4[edit]

Elizabeth Sander

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Phil Chisnall

  • Reviewed: Second review of HMS Surly (1855)
  • Comment: Eligible per Rule 1d, because it only appeared in the "Recent Deaths" section of ITN and not as a bold link.

5x expanded by Bloom6132 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Art Potter

Created by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 21:30, 4 March 2021 (UTC).

Supersonus

Supersonus
Supersonus

Created/expanded by Mk170101 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:20, 4 March 2021 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Article is ineligible for DYK as it currently has 603 characters of prose (it needs 1,500 characters at minimum). Mk170101, please see WP:DYKRULES for more information. There are scripts that can help you check the article length (see Wikipedia:Prosesize or User:Shubinator/DYKcheck). If you can further expand the article in the next few days and would like the DYK nomination to be reconsidered, just ping me here and I'd be happy to review. DanCherek (talk) 04:01, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 5[edit]

Steve Cherry

  • ... that professional footballer Steve Cherry injured himself trying to prevent his pet kitten escaping the house? Source: Cherry, Steve; Nicholas, Jonathan (2018). Cherry Picking. The Book Guild Ltd. ISBN 978-1912575-831.
    • ALT1:... that a two-year old Steve Cherry woke his family with his teething cries during a house fire? Source: Cherry, Steve; Nicholas, Jonathan (2018). Cherry Picking. The Book Guild Ltd. ISBN 978-1912575-831.
    • ALT2:... that Steve Cherry prevented an unconscious John Fashanu from choking on his tongue? Source: Cherry, Steve; Nicholas, Jonathan (2018). Cherry Picking. The Book Guild Ltd. ISBN 978-1912575-831.
    • ALT3:... that professional footballer Steve Cherry was described as a "goalkeeper, wit, raconteur and failed anorexic" after struggling to keep his weight down? Source: Cherry, Steve; Nicholas, Jonathan (2018). Cherry Picking. The Book Guild Ltd. ISBN 978-1912575-831.

Improved to Good Article status by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 11:39, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Lu Li'an

Created by Mx. Granger (talk). Self-nominated at 10:22, 7 March 2021 (UTC).

United States Marine Hospital (Pittsburgh)

Moved to mainspace by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk). Self-nominated at 05:17, 7 March 2021 (UTC).

Octet (Bruch)

  • ... that the String Octet by Max Bruch was premiered in a live BBC broadcast in 1937 and then forgotten for several decades? Source: [66], page 6
    • ALT1:... that the final movement of Max Bruch's String Octet, written when he was gravely ill, seems to express his hope of regaining enough strength to revisit some of the places of his youth? Source: [67], page 5

Created by Intforce (talk). Self-nominated at 03:06, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Archimedean Excogitation

Archimedean Excogitation
Archimedean Excogitation

Created by Sdkb (talk). Self-nominated at 19:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Poème roumain

Created by GeneralPoxter (talk). Self-nominated at 19:03, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Osman Erbaş, 2021 TAF AS532 crash

  • ... that Lieutenant General Osman Erbaş was one of 11 Turkish military personnel killed in a 4 March 2021 helicopter crash? "An army helicopter crashed in eastern Turkey on Thursday, killing 11 military personnel on board and injuring two others ... The victims included Lt. Gen. Osman Erbas, an army corps commander" from US News

Created by Dumelow (talk) and Solavirum (talk). Nominated by Dumelow (talk) at 18:43, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Harry F. Sinclair House

Isaac D. Fletcher House
Isaac D. Fletcher House

Improved to Good Article status by Vami IV (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 17:24, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

John-Michael Caprio

Created by JGHowes (talk). Self-nominated at 16:53, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Noah Beck

  • ... that Noah Beck, a social medial personality and former college footballer, wore fishnet tights, cuffed jeans, and stiletto heels for a digital cover of VMan magazine? Source: "Noah Beck Poses in Fishnet Tights, Cuffed Jeans & Stiletto Heels for ‘VMan’" [68]

Created by TJMSmith (talk). Self-nominated at 14:15, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Theodore Cohen (chemist)

Professor Asimov, who inspired Professor Cohen's career in chemistry
Professor Asimov, who inspired Professor Cohen's career in chemistry

5x expanded by David Eppstein (talk) and Andrew Davidson (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 12:14, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

  • Reviewing...long enough, 5x expanded, nice hook, no copyvio issues. QPQ provided. Will go through in detail and complete soon. Whispyhistory (talk) 11:54, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

John Morkel

  • ... that John Morkel captained the Rhodesia national rugby team to a victory over the All Blacks? Source: ESPN

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 09:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 6[edit]

A Goofy Movie

Bill Farmer in 2010
Bill Farmer in 2010

Improved to Good Article status by Some Dude From North Carolina (talk). Self-nominated at 01:05, 7 March 2021 (UTC).

2 Broadway

2 Broadway after renovation
2 Broadway after renovation

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 23:39, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Luis Salvador (politician)

  • ... that Luis Salvador became mayor of Granada in 2019, even though his party won only four of 27 seats? Source: "Los corporativos han elegido al candidato del Ciudadanos, Luis Salvador, que se ha sido investido con el apoyo de PP y Vox. Y ello en minoría absoluta, pese a tener solo cuatro de los 27 concejales". Translation: "The members have chosen the candidate from Citizens, who has been invested with the support of PP and Vox. And in an absolute minority, in spite of having only four of the 27 councillors" ([70])
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Comment: I've made a lot of articles recently but only this fact really took the biscuit and made me want to go to DYK. It's certainly not unusual to make a coalition government anywhere in the world, but it is unusual when the leader of the junior partner gets the top job! I think the Morphopsychology story about this candidate is more interesting, but I understand that hooks should not be negative.

Created by Unknown Temptation (talk). Self-nominated at 23:03, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Port Way

Port Way near Grateley
Port Way near Grateley
  • Reviewed: TBC

5x expanded by MIDI (talk). Self-nominated at 21:28, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Yuri (genre)

  • ... that use of the term yuri to describe a genre of Japanese media focusing on intimate relationships between female characters originates from a gay men's magazine? Source: Yuricon
    • ALT1:... that most early yuri works, a genre of Japanese media focusing on intimate relationships between female characters, were tragedies focused on doomed relationships that ended in separation or death? Source: Drawing Out Lesbians: Blurred Representations of Lesbian Desire in Shōjo Manga
    • ALT2:... that Sailor Moon contributed significantly to the development of yuri, a genre of media focusing on intimate relationships between female characters? Source: Women-Loving Women in Modern Japan
  • Reviewed: to come

Improved to Good Article status by Morgan695 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:21, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

New York Produce Exchange

5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Self-nominated at 18:14, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Borgo Santo Spirito

The final stretch of Borgo Santo Spirito with St. Peter's Dome in the background
The final stretch of Borgo Santo Spirito with St. Peter's Dome in the background
  • ... that Borgo Santo Spirito (pictured) was named after a fortified complex for Anglo-Saxon pilgrims to Rome? Source: "Qui era la Schola Saxonum e dall'ospizio di questa nazione prese nome la via oggi cosi' chiamata dall'ospedale omonimo" (Delli (1988), p. 196, sub voce)
    • ALT1:... that in the 15th century the the most important relic of Christianity, the Veil of Veronica, was displayed in Borgo Santo Spirito (pictured) at the end of a solemn procession? ...nel 1400, ed in alcune solennità, si esponeva alla devozione dei fedeli il ...Sudario della Veronica, che ivi si portava da San Pietro con processione solenne" (Borgatti (1925), p. 155

Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:43, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Flock (Jane Weaver album)

Created by Ashleyyoursmile (talk). Self-nominated at 16:00, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Ernie Curtis

Improved to Good Article status by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 15:51, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Patrick Francis Healy

Patrick Francis Healy
Patrick Francis Healy
  • ... that Patrick Francis Healy (pictured) was the first Black American to earn a Ph.D., become a Jesuit, and become the president of a predominantly White university? Source: "...Father Healy may be considered the first African-American to earn a doctorate, the first African-American to become a Jesuit priest, and the first to serve as president of a predominantly white college." (National Park Service)

Improved to Good Article status by Ergo Sum (talk). Self-nominated at 05:23, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Sandra Wolin

Sandra Wolin
Sandra Wolin
  • ... that Sandra Wolin's (pictured) lab discovered the Ro60 autoantigen is tethered by Y RNA to a ring-shaped nuclease, forming a double-ringed ribonucleoprotein specialized for structured RNA degradation? Source: " By studying a bacterial ortholog of one such protein, the ring-shaped Ro60 autoantigen, they discovered that this protein is tethered by noncoding “Y RNA” to a ring-shaped nuclease, forming a double-ringed ribonucleoprotein machine specialized for structured RNA degradation." [71]
    • ALT1:... that Sandra Wolin (pictured), a physician-microbiologist, devised an early ribosome profiling method as a postdoctoral researcher in Peter Walter's lab at the University of California, San Francisco? Source: "She carried out postdoctoral training with Peter Walter at the University of California San Francisco, where she devised an early ribosome profiling method." [72]
    • ALT2:... that Sandra Wolin (pictured), a physician-microbiologist, researches how non-coding RNAs function, how cells recognize and degrade defective RNAs and how failure to degrade these RNAs affects cell function and contributes to human disease?Source: "Wolin’s research examines how noncoding RNAs function, how cells recognize and degrade defective RNAs and how failure to degrade these RNAs affects cell function and contributes to human disease." [73]

5x expanded by TJMSmith (talk). Self-nominated at 03:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Z173 Factory

  • ... that Z173 Factory received six awards in total during its 55th anniversary?
    • ALT1:... that Z173 Factory changed its name seven times from 1965 to 2010 before it took its current public name as Hong Ha Shipbuilding One-Member Limited Liability Company?

Created by Ominae (talk). Self-nominated at 14:01, 6 March 2021 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on March 7[edit]

Disability Day of Mourning

Created by Vaticidalprophet (talk). Self-nominated at 04:34, 7 March 2021 (UTC).

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