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For instructions on how to nominate an article, see below.

This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
July 15 1
August 29 1
August 30 1
August 31
September 2 1 1
September 3 1
September 13 1
September 14 1
September 15 1 1
September 16 1
September 19 1
September 20 1
September 21 1
September 22 2 1
September 24 2 1
September 26 2
September 27 3 2
September 28 1 1
September 29 2 1
September 30 6 5
October 1 2 2
October 2 4 4
October 3 9 7
October 4 9 7
October 5 11 7
October 6 12 9
October 7 6 3
October 8 14 12
October 9 7 3
October 10 8 5
October 11 10 7
October 12 12 8
October 13 8 7
October 14 10 7
October 15 8 5
October 16 15 8
October 17 13 6
October 18 7 1
October 19 11 1
October 20 3
Total 209 122
Last updated 17:10, 20 October 2021 UTC
Current time is 17:11, 20 October 2021 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Shortcut

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing.

Further information: Official supplementary guidelines and unofficial guide

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Alternatively, you may leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose.

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  1. Install the DYK helper script by adding the line {{subst:lusc|User:SD0001/DYK-helper.js}} to your common.js page.
  2. Go back to the article, and choose the "DYK" option from the "More" menu (see image).
  3. Fill in the form and submit it.
  4. Check back periodically to address comments or concerns from the reviewer (it may take several weeks).

Manual instructions[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.

For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.

I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Publish page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Publish page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below).

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.


Instructions for reviewers[edit]

Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Instructions for project members[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a Prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
1) Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: Symbol confirmed.svg Symbol voting keep.svg.
2) Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
a. Any outstanding issue following Symbol confirmed.svg Symbol voting keep.svg needs to be addressed before promoting.
3) Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
4) Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
5) Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
6) Hook should make sense grammatically.
7) Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
8) Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
1) For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
a. Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
2) Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
a. Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
b. Check that there's a bold link to the article.
3) If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
4) Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
5) Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
a. At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
6) Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources: To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]] To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]] To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]] To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]] To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]] To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]] To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on July 15[edit]

Osa Maliki

Moved to mainspace by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 09:59, 15 July 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Length, date, sourcing, qpq checks out. However, I find that the wording of the hook doesn't catch the essence here. I'd suggest ALT1: "... that Osa Maliki, a former Communist Party of Indonesia member, cooperated with army commander and religious groups in an anti-communist purge inside the Indonesian National Party?" --Soman (talk) 18:30, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Soman: Sure, that’d be fine too. Juxlos (talk) 01:12, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to complete the review including checking proposed ALT1 hook by first reviewer (original hook has been struck). BlueMoonset (talk) 16:17, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[]
Symbol question.svg@Juxlos and Soman: Hmmm.. the hook depends of him being a member of the communist party (but the ref won't load) and anti-communist moves which are in the (very long) referenced document (I think) but I cannot (quickly) see where it says anything like "cooperated with army commander and religious groups in an anti-communist purge" in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victuallers (talk • contribs)
I'm bowing out (or at least I did some time ago). I cannot equate the PKI with communism and I don't know why Maliki objected to the PKI (it may be because they were communist). Too complex. I cannot check the first ref as its in Indonesian. Victuallers (talk) 13:30, 10 September 2021 (UTC)[]
The wording in the article is "By mid-October, army commanders and religious groups have backed and cooperated with Osa's faction in eliminating supposed pro-PKI elements from PNI". I'd say that is very close to ALT1. --Soman (talk) 22:02, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@Soman: would you say it's acceptable? If so, it's best to just push it into DYKA. Juxlos (talk) 04:24, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
I didn't object to ALT1, I presented it. The objection came from other editors. I'd say that the distinction communism/PKI is secondary, in contemporary Indonesian context anti-communist/anti-PKI is basically the same (with the possible exception for Murba Party, but that's a more marginal phenomenon). --Soman (talk) 14:30, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg new reviewer needed to check ALT1 and finish the review. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:51, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on August 29[edit]

East Germany–Zanzibar relations

Created by Soman (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 29 August 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article was created within the past seven days and is long enough; however, the hook is not cited with an incline citation. It may also be helpful to include the ambassador's name, Chargé d'Affaires Günther Fritsch, in the hook. Huey117 (talk) 00:35, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Didn't notice the review above, anyway, I think the article is fine - the hook's claim is cited in the body. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:48, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Genuine question: what exactly is meant by "permanent"? Günther Fritsch appears to have been there for a little over one year. If that is permanent, does it mean that other East German diplomats flew home for the weekends from their African countries? Schwede66 18:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  • 'Permanent residence' is an established term in diplomacy, there is a difference between ambassadors accredited to a country but based somewhere else and those that are based in the country where they are accredited. --Soman (talk) 23:31, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  • I see. I wonder how well known that is. I'm familiar with the concept of permanent residency and in particular New Zealand permanent residency. There's unfortunately not an article about the diplomacy term. I wonder whether it's possible to set up a redirect to a relevant article and write something about the concept. I suspect that others will also struggle to get the point that is being conveyed here. Alternatively, maybe it needs an alternative hook that's less confusing / ambiguous. Beyond that, having now looked at the reference, I quote (page 64): "The outcome was the presence of the first East German ambassador to take up permanent residence in a recognised African state." I'm not sure what exactly is being referred to by "recognised state" but I would assume that it's a subset of all African states. Would it therefore be possible that what the hook conveys does not necessarily align with what the source says? Schwede66 23:51, 31 August 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg user:Soman, the above needs some attention. Maybe an alt hook is best. Schwede66 17:17, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Sorry, yes, that's fine for a hook, theleekycauldron. I didn't think of myself as the reviewer of this nominations; Huey117 is. I was just reading some hooks, this one caught my attention and I started looking into it. I haven't done anything else but review the hook and read the source that goes with it. Schwede66 06:46, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg new reviewer needed as the reviewer has been AWOL for a while. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:53, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol question.svg The hook fact is mentioned in the lede, but is not directly mentioned in the article (the body wording is "the first East German diplomat to take permanent residence as ambassador" rather than "the first East German embassy in Africa"), so either the latter sentence needs to be revised, or a reference be added to the lede mention. In addition, a QPQ has yet to be provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:47, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Whoops, not sure how I missed that. The rest of the review still stands however. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:21, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I feel we are back to square one. The initial hook was "first East German ambassador with permanent residence to an African country", which was then contested on the notion that 'permanent residence' was somehow ambiguous. Either we go with the most factually correct wording ("first East German ambassador with permanent residence to an African country") or we water it down ("first Embassy in Africa"). This embassy was, per the fact that it had the first ambassador with permanent residence, the first proper embassy in Africa with a building etc, but GDR probably had temporary delegations before that. --Soman (talk) 11:54, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Soman: Adding a footnote to East Germany initiated a number assistance programs to Zanzibar, and established its first embassy in Africa on Zanzibar. would solve my main issue, at the very least. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:21, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
added now. --Soman (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks, I hope to finish the full review by tomorrow. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol question.svg Adding to Huey's review, no close paraphrasing was found and a QPQ has been done. ALT1 addresses Huey's original concerns since it makes mentioning the ambassador's name unnecessary, and it's more concise and accurate. While the article is technically good to go, I just find it confusing that there's no mention of what happened to the embassy-turned-consulate after the compromise was reached: was it also closed in 1971, or before? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:06, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on August 30[edit]

Turkoman (ethnonym)

Territories where Oghuz languages are spoken today
Territories where Oghuz languages are spoken today

... that a significant percentage of residents of Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Turkmenistan are descendants of Oghuz Turks, also known as Turkomans, and the languages they speak belong to a single group within one language family (pictured)? Sources: Shukurov, Rustam (1987). Fadl Allah Rashid ed-Din. Oghuzname (in Russian). Baku, Azerbaijan: Elm. pp. 1–26; Doerfer, Gerhard (1987). "Turks in Iran (Turkish translation)": 431. It is very strange that the word "Turkmen" still leads to confusion; in Leningrad, I saw that Iraqi Oghuz literature was cataloged under the name "Turkmen"; in fact, the word Turkman simply means an Oghuz nomad. Cite journal requires |journal= (help)

  • ... that a majority of residents of Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Turkmenistan are descendants of Turkomans, and their languages belong to an Oghuz group of Turkic languages (pictured)? Sources: Shukurov, Rustam (1987). Fadl Allah Rashid ed-Din. Oghuzname (in Russian). Baku, Azerbaijan: Elm. pp. 1–26; Doerfer, Gerhard (1987). "Turks in Iran (Turkish translation)": 431. It is very strange that the word "Turkmen" still leads to confusion; in Leningrad, I saw that Iraqi Oghuz literature was cataloged under the name "Turkmen"; in fact, the word Turkman simply means an Oghuz nomad. Cite journal requires |journal= (help) Julian Rentzsch, "Uniformity and diversity in Turkic inceptive constructions", Johannes Gutenberg University, pp. 270-271

Improved to Good Article status by Visioncurve (talk). Self-nominated at 03:09, 1 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment (not a review): Hello, good work on getting this article to GA status! I note that your hook doesn't include the title of the article; you will need to think of a new hook that includes the term "Turkoman" (which should be linked in bold in the hook, like so: Turkoman). This page has more information about composing a hook, which may be helpful. Cheers, Chocmilk03 (talk) 02:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Pinging Visioncurve in case they missed the above comment. Note that you don't necessarily need a new hook if you can integrate a link to your DYK article into the existing hook. However, if you want the image used, you'll also have to integrate that into the hook so that it includes something like (pictured) or (helmet pictured). MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:20, 4 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The supplied hook is 221 prose characters including spaces and punctuation, well over the maximum of 200 (and it's better to be shorter than that). I have struck the hook; Visioncurve, please supply a new one that's shorter. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:40, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Comment perhaps one of these hooks could work?
ALT1: ... that Turks in Turkey used to be known as Turkomans?
ALT1a: ... that there are Turkomans in Turkmenistan, but not Turkey?
ALT1b: ... that there are Turkomans in Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Pakistan, but not Turkey?
pinging @BlueMoonset and Visioncurve theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 08:46, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Visioncurve overwrote their original hook (which was struck) with the following, which I have moved down here (and restored the original hook so it's available for reference); ALT2 is 163 characters:
  • ALT2: ... that a majority of residents of Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Turkmenistan are descendants of Turkomans, and their languages belong to an Oghuz group of Turkic languages (pictured)? Sources: Shukurov, Rustam (1987). Fadl Allah Rashid ed-Din. Oghuzname (in Russian). Baku, Azerbaijan: Elm. pp. 1–26; Doerfer, Gerhard (1987). "Turks in Iran (Turkish translation)": 431. It is very strange that the word "Turkmen" still leads to confusion; in Leningrad, I saw that Iraqi Oghuz literature was cataloged under the name "Turkmen"; in fact, the word Turkman simply means an Oghuz nomad. Cite journal requires |journal= (help) Julian Rentzsch, "Uniformity and diversity in Turkic inceptive constructions", Johannes Gutenberg University, pp. 270-271
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that there are hooks proposed that don't exceed the maximum length. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:59, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on August 31[edit]

Articles created/expanded on September 2[edit]

Articles created/expanded on September 3[edit]

La Folia Barockorchester

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 10:51, 3 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment (not a review): Gerda Arendt the article says, without a reference, that LFBO is named after La Folia, which redirects to a musical theme, but https://www.lafoliabarockorchester.net/lfbo-1 refers to a term “la folia” not the musical theme. TSventon (talk) 11:19, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    The two go together, I had no time to clarify, and won't until next week, sorry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:46, 3 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    TSventon: La Folia means not only the theme but the compositions based on it, described by ref Düren (now used) as "eine Form, die wildes und kühnes Spiel mit großer Freiheit zur Kreativität erlaubt" - a form that permits wild and bold play with great freedom to creativity, "play" not meaning instrumental playing but the playful music variation. Please check if it's now clear enough. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    Gerda Arendt: thank you, that is helpful, I see you have been busy over the last two weeks. TSventon (talk) 09:08, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    Thank you for understanding. I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Karnabo. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:48, 18 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that QPQ has been supplied. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:34, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol question.svg Might be a tad over seven days, but I think that's fine. Long enough, neutral, and mostly sourced to the best of my understanding. I made a slight copyedit to the lead. I think the hook needs tweaking, as the meaning is a bit unclear to those who do not understand the various nouns involved. (For example, I suggest dropping "from Dresden".) Gerda, could you tell me what exactly the 'hooky' bit is? Is it the broadcasting from an Abbey? CMD (talk) 11:31, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    I don't want to drop Dresden, as the focus on music from the Dresden court is what they stand for. It's remarkable but perhaps not hooky - I'm known not to care much about hookiness - that not only they appeared at that notable festival, but also were broadcast, and then even by several stations. - I commented out the uncited soloists before I saw your note. They are not critical to the article. I have no time to dig up refs for them right now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    To answer the question in an edit summary: typically such lists (which I dislike, but I just translated) go by alphabet, but here, I had two different references, so went by alphabet within reference. It would be better to say precisely who performed which music, but back to no time ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    Thanks Gerda, I think that does not come through right now. Hookiness should convey what is remarkable. The "from Dresden", "at the Rheingau", and "from Eberbach" form a somewhat confusing string for a non-German speaker. Is there a way to rearrange the elements? CMD (talk) 14:48, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    I said before I don't care about hookiness. Compromise:
    ALT1: ... that La Folia Barockorchester from Dresden performed at Eberbach Abbey in a broadcast concert of the 2021 Rheingau Musik Festival?
    Defending: Dresden may be for many readers the first word they know, because La Folia is Italian/Spanish and Barockorchester is German. I don't like the name of the ensemble but what can we do? Eberbach Abbey is widely known beyond classical music as a World Heritage Site, and as the location of the film The Name of the Rose. The festival is also widely known, and those who don't know can learn something new. Any 2021 performance is a gift, hooky or not. It was the first with singing after the lockdown but I wouldn't know where to put that in the limited space. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    This should not be a search for a compromise, but a solution. If Dresden is to be included, why not ... that the Dresden-based La Folia Barockorchester...? That eliminates one from/at X, while also indicating what Dresden means. Shifting 2021 is a good idea, let's keep that shifted 2021, as it breaks up another from/at X. With both of those variations, I think either ALT0 or ALT1 would work much better. CMD (talk) 16:21, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]
    I try to avoid links before the bold hook but as you wish. Could you please word a version that would please you? You can still approve as long no new facts are involved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:24, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Sorry for the delay. CMD (talk) 15:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[]

Of the two, I prefer ALT2. Isn't a broadcast concert one without audience? (English isn't my first language.) Both have Dresden before the bolded link. but I'm sort of tired ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Symbol voting keep.svg I'm afraid my musical knowledge lies mostly within the realm of private practice and appreciation. No issues with a promoter tweaking Dresden, broadcast concert, or any other part of any of the hooks. Noting author preference for AL2. CMD (talk) 15:54, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol question.svg @Gerda Arendt: CMD's CN tag should be addressed before this hook is promoted. 21:36, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[]
In my opinion, a concert being broadcast happens all the time and is not that interesting, and adding "by several stations" to me indicates that its broadcast was limited, since "several" is indeterminate but not very many, and could be as little as two. So I've struck the hooks that use that particular phrase. May I suggest that a much more interesting hook would be the anonymous works that survived multiple fires, that (according to source 2) La Folia "deliberately didn't even try to find out the authors of the individual pieces" (Google translate of part of the Geisler quote). That "didn't even try" fact would need to be added to the article, if it fits a hook, but the multiple fires fact might be sufficient even without it. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:21, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you, both. I added refs for the recordings and for that intentional leaving anonymous. However, I prefer to say what I saw/heard and found great. I added also a ref for the "Radiofestival", one program of the public radio cultural stations in Germany (many, several - not sure). It wasn't just a radio concert, but one of the selected few from this years summer festivals, beginning with the opening (at the same location) as the President's charity concert, - we just don't have room for all that in a hook. The teaser for the concert was Anna Prohaska whom I had come to hear, and the ensemble was a discovery on top! In case we want to go the same way (but it's a bit unfair to the other three singers):
ALT4: ... that soprano Anna Prohaska and La Folia Barockorchester performed at Eberbach Abbey for the 2021 Rheingau Musik Festival and the ARD Radiofestival? - We could also go quirky and contrast the title "Glorious Revolution" with the sacred building. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:56, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@BlueMoonset:, I'll promote once you sign off. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:41, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@BlueMoonset what's happening with this nom? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:18, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]

theleekycauldron, I pointed out issues with the existing (approved) hooks; I hadn't volunteered to review any new hooks. Perhaps you should do that, and let some one else promote. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg My reviewing an article usually means that it takes a week or so longer to get promoted, and this nom's been hanging for a while. I'll put out a call for a new reviewer to check the new hooks and verify that the cn tag has been addressed at WT:DYK and relist this nom. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 00:10, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol question.svg I haven't had a chance to take a look at the article yet and see if the citation issues have been addressed, but I have to agree with BlueMoonset that the currently proposed hooks aren't broadly interesting, especially when other potentially much more interesting angles (such as the fire and the author anonymity) could be used here. I've struck ALT3 and ALT4 as they do not address at all the issues that were raised by BlueMoonset. Inviting Theleekycauldron and Chipmunkdavis to suggest hooks on either the fire or anonymity angles and we'll see where we can go from here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:22, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Hi there! Some alt suggestions:
ALT5: ... that the La Folia Barockorchester made the first recordings of rediscovered anonymous violin concertos that had survived multiple fires?
ALT6: ... that members of the La Folia Barockorchester made no attempt to find the authors of anonymous violin concertos they found?
I prefer ALT5, and ALT6 would need to be included in the article. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 17:21, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you for the offer but the fire has really nothing to do with the orchestra's playing, sorry. We should probably have an article about the collection, and use the idea then. The ALT6 fact is in the article, and I duplicated the ref. "members" is not referenced, Dresden should be mentioned to give them a location, therefore:
ALT6a: ... that when La Folia Barockorchester made first recordings of anonymous violin concertos found in the Dresden Hofkirche, they chose not to find out the identity of the composers? [2][3] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:07, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you for ALT6a, it's a pretty good hook. This is just a note Gerda, but I've noticed that you've been making a lot of late-by-a-day-or-two nominations lately,. While usually we grant IAR exemptions to nominations late by a day or two, given that you've made multiple of them at this point, I would highly suggest that moving forward you try to nominate articles on time instead of relying on IAR exemptions. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:48, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I am guilty of nominating in time but when the article is not yet ready (three of those, indeed, over the weekend). I wouldn't know when I was late after this one, but really don't know what's worse. A friend was banned, I went to a funeral last week, was away for the long weekend, had to deal with 4 Recent deaths articles - and those can't wait or are no longer recent - such as today's Edita Gruberová which will take some more hours to polish today: I confess that my interest in DYK is reduced, and perhaps I better drop out. But before, I want to write an article with a DYK of this stunning performance which you don't permit me with the orchestra. One of the other singers, perhaps. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:23, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Gerda, another thing I noticed is that in many of your nominations, you have described how you have ongoing DYK and RD nominations, as well as are planning to create or expand other articles. For example, in this nomination, you mention that you have been working on four RD nominations, and that these pending nominations are a factor as to why you end up nominating articles for DYK slightly late often, or why nomination issues aren't immediately addressed. Such comments are usually not relevant to the current discussion and may give others the impression that you are bragging about your nominations. In the future I would suggest you avoid making such comments unless there's good reason to do so. Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:11, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I don't know what you do when late, I explain why. Call that bragging if you have to. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 13[edit]

Hogwarts School of Prayer and Miracles

Created by BuySomeApples (talk). Self-nominated at 09:15, 13 September 2021 (UTC).[]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced (it has a citation to Inquisitor, a generally unreliable source but I'll let that slide as it seems to just be for opinion.), neutral and plagiarism-free. However, I have a few issues with the hooks though they are both interesting. Firstly, the article title should be in italics, no? Regarding ALT0, I do not see replacing Magic with... however you spell it (I've never heard it before.) mentioned in the article, and the fan fiction did not rewrite the series, no? With ALT1, "Christian friendly" and its negative reception for its plot does not seem to be mentioned in the article. But overall, the hooks are quite silly. Face-tongue.svg QPQ has been done. Pamzeis (talk) Ping me in replies! 12:51, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Hi @Pamzeis: thanks for reviewing this one so quickly! Evangelicalism is a type of Christianity, it's kinda the really conservative American type. The Wikipedia page it links to is really long, but I don't know how to boil it down. All of the sources link the fanfiction to Christianity, but a lot of the sources like Snopes, The Daily Dot and Religion News Service say Evangelicalism in particular (I think that's important because not all Christians believe the same things).
  • Re: ALT0 I altered the hook a bit to say "prayer and Evangelical morality". The sources say "Evangelical stay-at-home mom named Grace Ann has taken it upon herself to remove all the witchcraft devil-worship from Harry Potter and replace it with a more Christian-friendly message",[12] "All the magic in the story is replaced with “prayer,” where the characters kneel and ask God for things, which will suddenly appear, as if by, you know, magic",[13] and "her mission to re-write the Harry Potter books to be a Christian morality tale."[14] I removed Inquisitr from the article and hook citations.
  • The fan fiction is described as "rewriting" the original series in many of the sources because it retells the book's story in a different way. It doesn't change the actual Harry Potter story, but it is still a revision of it.
  • Re: ALT0 The negative reception was mentioned in the "Reception and analysis" section, it mentioned that it garnered an almost universally negative reaction from critics and has more specific criticisms from sources like was critical of the writing, grammar and plot, and referencing the author's stated purpose of making a family friendly, Christian take on Harry Potter.
  • I edited the introduction and "Reception" section now to be more specific now and include all the info you mentioned. The introduction now reads "The fan fiction rewrites the Harry Potter series to replace magic with prayer, and emphasize moral lessons rooted in Evangelicalism." and the "Reception" section opens with "The fanfiction went viral in 2014, and garnered an almost universally negative reaction from critics for its plot, writing and message." and includes "Madeleine Davies of Jezebel criticized the author's "Christian-friendly" plot". Let me know if there's anything else! BuySomeApples (talk) 21:05, 13 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol confirmed.svg ALT0b and ALT1 are fine by me! Pamzeis (talk) 01:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @BuySomeApples: I'm not seeing a citation for ALT0b, because it's only written in the lead—would there be a place in the body where it can be inserted and cited, or do you want to just cite in the lead? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:57, 25 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Pamzeis: Symbol question.svg I know I'm being a stickler about this, because it's just the synopsis of the article, but I want to promote ALT0b but I'm not seeing a citation in the article. BuySomeApples appears to be AWOL, any way this could be fixed? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:20, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I've added a cite but the article doesn't mention "Christian morality" so I've struck it and added an alt. Now, we just need someone to review it. Pamzeis (talk) 06:58, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 14[edit]

SpaceX Starship

Tile inspection on Starship
Tile inspection on Starship
  • ... that the flaps of SpaceX's Starship spacecraft do not generate lift but instead induce drag to control the spacecraft's descent? Source: "The vehicle therefore uses four steel landing flaps, positioned near the front and rear of the vehicle, to control its descent. This is much like a skydiver uses their arms and legs to control a free-fall. 'It's quite different from anything else ... we're doing a controlled fall,' Elon Musk said during a Starship update in 2019. 'You're trying to create drag rather than lift - it's really the opposite of an aircraft.'" [15]
    • ALT1:... that the design of launch towers' arms allows them to "catch" and recover (retrieve?) the Super Heavy booster of SpaceX's Starship system? Source 1: "[...] SpaceX’s first custom-built ‘launch tower’ is a sort of backbone or anchor point for several massive, mechanical arms that will accomplish the actual tasks of servicing – and, perhaps, catching – Starships and Super Heavy boosters." [16] Source 2: "One month after SpaceX stacked Starship’s South Texas ‘launch tower’ to its full height, the company has installed the first arm on what amounts to the backbone of 'Mechazilla.'" [17]
    • ALT2: ... that SpaceX's Starship rocket has twice the lift capacity of the Saturn V? If Starship then launched as an expendable, payload would be ~250 tons. What isn’t obvious from this chart is that Starship/Super Heavy is much denser than Saturn V. [18]

Improved to Good Article status by CactiStaccingCrane (talk). Self-nominated at 07:48, 14 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Symbol question.svg The hooks look interesting enough, though I will suggest slight paraphrasing for each.
    • ALT3: ... that the flaps of SpaceX's Starship spacecraft do not generate lift but instead induce drag to control the spacecraft's descent
    • ALT1b: ... that the design of launch towers' arms allows them to "catch" and recover (retrieve?) the Super Heavy booster of SpaceX's Starship system? 
No problems for ATL2.
Rectify these. Will leave to the promoters to decide which of the hooks are better.--ZKang123 (talk) 12:01, 14 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Alt1 is a completely new design that has never been tested in any way and that is likely to change a lot in the future based on test results. I would avoid that for now. --mfb (talk) 16:23, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@ZKang123: I like that you suggested alts! I'm not seeing that a full review has been done, so I couldn't promote just yet. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 00:19, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
Apologies. Was busy and missed out this review. Looks good to go I guess. Symbol confirmed.svg --ZKang123 (talk) 00:25, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
@ZKang123: to be clear, the article is new enough, long enough, plagiarism free, etc.? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 01:31, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
It has just recently attainer GA when it was nominated at the time, so its passable.--ZKang123 (talk) 01:33, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • ZKang123, nominations for DYK have to meet a certain number of requirements before approval, and while you might have checked, I can't see that that's been verified in the nom page. You might want to reference the reviewing guide in taking a full review. Let me know when you've finished that (i also find it helpful to use the reviewer's template), and sorry for the holdup! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 05:15, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg a full review is needed for this nomination, unfortunately. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:46, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • The ALTs seem a little in the weeds to me. The topic is naturally interesting because it's in the news, so I'd consider going with something simpler, like:
    ALT4 ...that SpaceX's reusable Starship launch vehicle has twice the thrust as the Apollo Program's Saturn V?
    ALT5 ...that SpaceX's reusable Starship launch vehicle will carry more than 10 million pounds (4.5 kt) of propellant?
Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}} talk 07:54, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Symbol question.svg Symbol redirect vote 4.svg this might have gotten moved back for some reason theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 23:20, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 16[edit]

Japan and the Holocaust

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 11:41, 16 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Not sure this hook works, if it had no connection whatsoever no article could be written about it. Phrasing in the article is to be clearer, but I expect there are better hooks available. (t · c) buidhe 14:21, 16 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • I have to oppose the hook as I think it's misleading. It's your nomination, so please find a better hook. (t · c) buidhe 02:40, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Contradicted by the article which describes various types of peripheral involvement in "During World War II" section. The article lead states correctly: "did not actively participate in The Holocaust". But I don't see how that's hook worthy, since it does not distinguish Japan from pretty much any country outside of Europe. (t · c) buidhe 02:54, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Buidhe: Since Japan was part of the Axis, I think the hook is quite interesting. Not that I mind the other wording, see ALT1 below; anyway, given globalization, virtually any significant country had peripheral involvement in this. Frankly, I prefer the main to ALT1, since it is more clear, but I don't have strong feelings here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here

ALT1: ... that although Japanese Empire and Nazi Germany were allies during World War II, Japan did not actively participate in The Holocaust? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:02, 17 September 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Alt1 is factually accurate and I suppose it's educational so I'll let someone else who isn't as well read on the topic to decide if it's interesting enough for DYK. (t · c) buidhe 00:40, 30 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Looking at the note, while it makes the article title more clear, the hook ALT1 does not. Can it?--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 21:25, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol question.svg@Piotrus: The hook does not make it clear which Holocaust is being referred. Given The Empire of Japan's massive amount of killings during the Pacific War and some of those killings (mostly covered by the article Japanese war crimes) being referred to by some reliable sources as being holocausts in and of themselves. Assuming the word Holocaust is exclusively about the Holocaust of Jewish people, and a few other groups, at the hands of Nazi Germany, is Eurocentric. Therefore, please provide a modified hook for further evaluation.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 20:45, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
When I refer to the Pacific War, I also include the Japanese invasion of Manchuria and the Second Sino-Japanese War.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 20:56, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • RightCowLeftCoast While I think The Holocaust has one primary meaning (feel free to suggest a move at it's talk page), this issue can be easily solved by adding "of the Jews" to the hooks. I am not convinced this is necessary, as in my experience, nobody asked to or did disambiguate numerous Holocaust-related hooks I've seen in the past, but here you go. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:48, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Main b: ... that although Japanese Empire and Nazi Germany were allies during World War II, Japan was not involved in the Holocaust of the Jews?
Alt1b: ... that although Japanese Empire and Nazi Germany were allies during World War II, Japan did not actively participate in The Holocaustof the Jews?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Piotrus (talk • contribs) 23:48, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Piotrus: As there are sources, such as this one and this one and this one and many more others, which verify that the Japanese have conducted holocausts against other ethnicities of their own, it is only right that the hook specific which holocaust is being mentioned. To say that Holocaust is a term used only for the Holocaust of Jewish people again is a Eurocentric perception and makes light of the many millions killed and tortured by the Empire of Japan.
While Main b, and Alt1B, are improvements, it fails to inform readers of the holocausts conducted by the Empire of Japan in its entirety, thus it can be argued that the hooks are non-neutral.
Perhaps ALT2: "...that while the Empire of Japan was found to commit holocausts of their own, it did not actively participate in the Nazi Germany led Jewish Holocaust?"
It may be required that the article be expanded to allow for the context which the suggested hook to be included in the article. Though, the nominator or others may suggest other hooks, which provide context to the actions of the Empire of Japan upon the peoples whom they killed in the millions, and their non-active participation in the Jewish Holocaust.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:18, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
RightCowLeftCoast, I am fine with your ALT2; of course we still need a new reviewer for it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:10, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 19[edit]

Killing of Lindani Myeni

Created by Ezlev (talk) and FormalDude (talk). Nominated by Ezlev (talk) at 18:27, 19 September 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - ALT0 is not cited inline, and ALT3 does not appear in the article—that should probably be cleared up
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Hi, ezlev! I'm sorry it's taken so long for someone to get to to your review—this nomination has quite a few issues, but I'm glad someone took the time to cover this topic; it's super important! Let me know when we're ready to move forward. Great work so far, just a bit more! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 00:07, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Thanks for the review, Theleekycauldron. I expected the article to remain somewhat stable for a while when I submitted it, but it's in flux now, as you likely noticed during your review – I hope it'll be in shape for DYK in the near future! ezlev (user/tlk/ctrbs) 01:08, 15 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 20[edit]

Raytheon Anschütz

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self-nominated at 13:08, 20 September 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Good article, but it really needs more and better sources. An important invention like this must be described in other reliable secondary and tertiary sources. Thanks. -- P 1 9 9  ✉ 18:43, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@P199: Fixed. Also
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Maury Markowitz (talk • contribs) 14:25, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Trainer's article is a good addition. Although a few more diverse sources would have been great, it is good enough to pass. I have tweaked ALT1 to make it more concise:
Do you agree with this simpler version? -- P 1 9 9  ✉ 14:40, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 21[edit]

Osman Çakmak

  • ... that Osman Çakmak, a former professional footballer, who got amputated, enjoyed European Amputee Football Championship titles as player in 2017 and as manager in 2021 with the Turkey national team? Source: "Zeytinburnuspor formasıyla profesyonelliğe ilk adımını atan Osman Çakmak", "... sol bacağını diz altından kaybederek" (in Turkish) [21], "2017 Avrupa Ampute Futbol Federasyonu (EAFF) Avrupa Şampiyonası'nda şampiyon olan.." (in Turkish) [22], "Ampute Milli Takımı, finalinde İspanya'yı 6-0 mağlup ederek üst üste ikinci kez Avrupa Şampiyonu olurken Teknik Direktör Osman Çakmak açıklamalar yaptı..." (in Turkish) [23]

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 15:17, 28 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment The phrase "who got amputated" is odd. It's very strange to say "got amputated" without specifying which body part was amputated. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 11:56, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Dodger67: Thank you for your comment. How about the following? CeeGee 15:41, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[]
At 191 characters, the hook is pretty long and complicated. Perhaps shortened it a bit? The hook seems to have some redundant parts. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:08, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @Narutolovehinata5: Hooks can be as long as up to 200 chars. There must be no problem as you can know. I'd appreciate if you can form a hook as you like. CeeGee 11:30, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Symbol question.svg I am citing WP:DYKHOOK here: While 200 is a hard limit, hooks near or at this limit may still be rejected at the discretion of reviewers and administrators. (emphasis mine) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:51, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Perhaps this can work? ALT2 ... that Osman Çakmak won the European Amputee Football Championship as player in 2017 and as manager in 2021 after a leg amputation? I'm not completely happy with this though as the hook mentions amputation twice (and this was also one of my issues with ALT1). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thank you CeeGee for the proposal. It does bother me a bit though that we have articles for the yearly iterations but not for the tournament as a whole; perhaps one can be created so that it can be added to the nomination as well? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:46, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@CeeGee: Thoughts on ALT3? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:55, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Sorry! Can you make it a little bit more clear? CeeGee 10:23, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@CeeGee: Would you be able to write an article for the European Amputee Football Championship and add it as a second bolded link for ALT3? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:45, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • An article with this title was moved or deleted previously. I don't why? I can try it later on because I am working on an article now. . However, I do not think that this is necessary for the approval of this nomination. CeeGee 11:11, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • My impression is that you are trying to make up excuses to prevent or delay the approval. CeeGee 10:02, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I have no idea where that impression came from. It was merely a suggestion, and the hook and nomination can be approved even without said article being created. I just found it strange that there were articles for the yearly iterations and not one for the tournament as a whole and was wondering if that could be addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:23, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @CeeGee:, Narutolovehinata5 is trying to help you make your nomination the best it can be—I'd give them the benefit of the doubt. As far as I can see, the article hasn't been checked anyways, so the delay is nominal, really. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 02:43, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 22[edit]

Castle Recording Laboratory

  • ... that Castle Recording Laboratory, Nashville's first commercial recording studio, was established in a repurposed hotel banquet room? Source: "... in 1947, with a $1,000 loan from Third National Bank to convert a banquet room on the second floor of the Hotel Tulane at 206 8th Avenue North into a studio equipped with their mixing console, an Ampex Model 200 tape recorder, and a Scully lathe, establishing the first commercial recording space in Nashville."

Created by Synthfiend (talk). Self-nominated at 15:05, 24 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comments by Tbhotch
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg @Synthfiend: Nominated on time, long enough and no copyright issues according to Earwig. QPQ unrequired (first nomination). Most of it is sourced and is present on the sources, but the phrase "helping earn Nashville the nickname "Music City U.S.A."" sounds like original research and it should be reworded to adjust to what multiple sources say: it is the most important Nashville studio at the time. (CC) Tbhotch™ 20:40, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 24[edit]

Economy of Sarawak

Created/expanded by Cerevisae (talk). Self-nominated at 08:59, 29 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Thanks for your suggestion. Table moved to sandbox for further expansion. Cerevisae (talk) 13:35, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

References

  1. ^ Chiou Sia, Tan (2015). Forecasting the gross domestic product (GDP) of Sarawak (PDF). Sarawak: Faculty of Economics and Business University Malaysia Sarawak. pp. 6–7. Archived from the original (PDF) on 29 September 2021. Retrieved 29 September 2021.
  2. ^ "Gross Domestic Product (GDP) By State 2020". Department of Statistics Malaysia. Archived from the original on 1 July 2021. Retrieved 22 September 2021.
  3. ^ Fumitaka, Furuoka (2014). "Economic Development in Sarawak, Malaysia: An overview" (PDF). Munich Personal RePEc Archive. University of Malaya: 2–3. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2021-06-02. Retrieved 22 September 2021.

Articles created/expanded on September 26[edit]

The Gaslight Effect

  • ... that Robin Stern's book The Gaslight Effect (2007) describes gaslighting as an epidemic?
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 13:25, 3 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment (not a review). Of the 10 sources in the article, only one (the J. Psychohistory review) appears to be both in-depth and directly about the book. Perhaps because of this, it has been tagged for notability, neutrality, and additional citations. These issues should be addressed (not merely hidden by removing the cleanup banners) before this can be DYK. —David Eppstein (talk) 23:25, 5 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Lismore Crozier

The Lismore Crozier, National Museum of Ireland
The Lismore Crozier, National Museum of Ireland
  • ... that the 12th-century Lismore Crozier was rediscovered along with the 15th-century Book of Lismore, in a walled-up doorway in Lismore Castle, Ireland? Source: Moss, Rachel. Medieval c. 400—c. 1600: Art and Architecture of Ireland. New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 2014. p. 37. ISBN 978-0-3001-7919-4
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - I have AGFed on the hook source, but it looks like the book you cited in the nom (Moss 2014) is the not the same as the book cited in the article (O'Neill 2014). Do they both support the statement? Also, and this is a very minor point, the article right now says the crozier was discovered in a "concealed" doorway—I take it doorways can't really be concealed otherwise than by walls, so "walled-up" and "concealed" are likely synonymous, but wanted to confirm on this.
  • Interesting: Green tickY

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed: Red XN - I am slightly concerned about the picture. This ancient object, and any images of it, is surely in the public domain, as noted in Commons policy (see commons:Template:PD-Art), but the actual source of it is not clear about the provenance. Has NMI posted a picture of the crozier?
  • Used in article: Green tickY
  • Clear at 100px: Green tickY

QPQ: Red XN - Not done
Overall: Symbol question.svg In addition to comments above, waiting on QPQ (per nom). AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 15:50, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Given that the image gets MP exposure through a different hook, this can only be promoted as a non-picture hook. Thanks. Schwede66 02:01, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Have just uploaded [27] but am travelling so can’t update until later. Ceoil (talk) 13:05, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 27[edit]

Roman campaigns in Germania (12 BC – AD 16)

  • ... that the Romans won a series of campaigns against the Germanic tribes following the disaster at Teutoburg, but decided to leave Germany because its land was not considered valuable? Source: Wells (2003), The Battle That Stopped Rome, pp. 206–7

Improved to Good Article status by SpartaN (talk). Self-nominated at 03:34, 29 September 2021 (UTC).[]

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - Source is offline but happy to AGF. However, in the article the statement “they considered German lands too poor for annexation” is sourced to p.204 of Wells. pp.206-7 referred to above is used to support that they that “it was too costly in economic and military resources” to go into in Germany. I guess either way the hook is sourced but could you clarify the exact sourcing of the hook.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Interesting thorough article, well-written with good quality sourcing. Earwig shows no issues. Just a minor query around the hook sourcing but otherwise will be good to go. DeCausa (talk) 08:23, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@DeCausa: I found the web link that (for me) shows a preview if you're able to see it: https://books.google.com/books?id=mc30CAAAQBAJ&pg=PA206&lpg=PA206
SpartaN (talk) 10:07, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@SpartaN: Thanks for providing the link. It’s prompted a couple of thoughts for me. Firstly, Wells doesn’t seem to be saying the reason for the withdrawal is definitively known (“… the reasons for these decisions must have lain…”) i.e he’s making an assumption, however well founded. The hook is more definite than Wells is. Secondly, Wells’ emphasis is on the strength of the resistance being behind the reason - the poor value of the territory makes it “not worth it” because of the strength of the resistance. That’s not quite the same as just saying the land wasn’t valuable. (I notice the text you used in the article on this reflects that effort/value ratio issue.) To fix both points would you be prepared to consider an ALT1 which after “…Teutoburg” continues something along the lines of “…likely decided to leave Germany because the military effort was out of proportion to the territory’s value?” although there may need to be some trimming to get it into the 200 character limit. DeCausa (talk) 11:12, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 29[edit]

Coat of arms of the Football Association

Coat of arms of the Football Association
Coat of arms of the Football Association
  • ... that the lions supporting the coat of arms of the Football Association (pictured) are half-blue and half-white in imitation of the blue shorts and white shirts worn by the national teams? " The supporters are: On each side a lion party per fess argent and azure [heraldry speak for "divided in half horizontally and coloured silver (ie. white) over blue"] charged on the shoulder with a Tudor rose and with the interior hindfoot resting on a football proper. Essentially these are two lions in the colours of the England kit." from page 39 of: Phillips, David Llewelyn (Spring 2015). "Badges and 'Crests':The Twentieth-century Relationship Between Football and Heraldry" (PDF). The Coat of Arms, the Journal of the Heraldry Society. XI part 1 (229): 35–50.
    • ALT1:... that despite being awarded a full heraldric achievement (pictured) in 1979 there is no evidence the Football Association has ever used it? "On 9 January 1979 the Football Association received a second grant, of crest, supporters and a badge ... I can find no evidence that the Football Association has ever made public use of the crest, supporters or badge. Recent correspondence with the F.A. in fact suggests that they are unaware that their coat of arms includes these elements. It also appears that they are at the time of writing unable to locate either the original grant of arms or the second grant of supporters, badge, and crest" from page 39 of: Phillips, David Llewelyn (Spring 2015). "Badges and 'Crests':The Twentieth-century Relationship Between Football and Heraldry" (PDF). The Coat of Arms, the Journal of the Heraldry Society. XI part 1 (229): 35–50.
Arms of The Football Association.svg

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 16:01, 29 September 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Symbol question.svg Article was nominated the day it was moved to mainspace, a QPQ has been done, and other article requirements are met. I didn't find any close paraphrasing. All hooks have been verified in the provided source. I don't have a full preference for a hook but I think ALT0 is marginally more interesting than the other two. Both images are suitably licensed. Only issue: the reference for ALT2 comes after the sentence after ALT2's sentence, rather than the exact sentence. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:41, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks for the review Narutolovehinata5. I disagree with that rule of DYK, which is out of step with Wikipedia:Citing sources, but have added a duplicate reference to comply - Dumelow (talk) 09:49, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on September 30[edit]

Above Znoneofthe

Created by Ivanvector (talk). Self-nominated, as alt account PEIsquirrel (talk), at 13:05, 7 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • General eligibility:
  • New Enough: Green tickY
  • Long Enough: Red XN - Article clocks in at 1,058 prose characters—the minimum requirement would be 1,500

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The name should be bolded, and I feel like the hook could be a little punchier? I've suggested an ALT2.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg @PEIsquirrel: Hi, welcome to DYK! This nomination will need a bit of work before it's ready to be on the front page, but this is good so far! It's very amusing. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 18:46, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]

  • Hi Theleekycauldron, thanks for your review! I am Ivanvector, this is an alt account, and I do have a couple of DYK credits under my main. I wasn't aware there was a minimum length requirement for new articles, I don't think it came up in DYKcheck, but I can flesh it out some. For ALT1, he only ran as a Rhinoceros candidate in the most recent of the elections he's run in. In his first since his name change, he ran as an independent against the leader of the "None of the Above Party", and for several elections after that ran as a candidate for that party, so I'm not sure if we should mention the Rhinoceros Party in the hook. What do you think? Ivanvector's squirrel (trees/nuts) 16:39, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 3[edit]

Elaine Estes

Created by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:27, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment: I hope you don't mind, SL93, I've suggested an ALT1. Feel free to strikethrough if it you don't want it :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 18:37, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg One sentence needs to be cleaned up, and someone else has to approve the hook—but you're almost there. Nice work! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 02:17, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Theleekycauldron I fixed the sentence. SL93 (talk) 21:54, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
aight, we should be good on that, then. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 22:01, 12 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to check ALT1 hook. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:55, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Say You to Yo Asobi

  • ... that the Japanese variety show Say You to Yo Asobi collaborated with the Japan Racing Association and to feature the race horse Takarazuka Kinen?Source: Oricon (article): 番組と連動した『JRA×「声優と夜あそび 2021」宝塚記念チャレンジ』サイトでは、木曜日、金曜日のMC陣が、宝塚記念を予想した動画を特別公開。 [On the "JRA x Say You to Yo Asobi 2021 "Takarazuka Kinen Challenge" website linked to the program, the MC team on Thursday and Friday will release a special video with their predictions on Takarazuka Kinen.]

Created by Lullabying (talk). Self-nominated at 22:40, 3 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 4[edit]

Heterotermes aureus

Created by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:02, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Symbol confirmed.svg That's just a lazy common name. There's literally "other subterranean desert species". Nonetheless, article is barely late, long enough, neutral, sourced, and with no copyvio found. QPQ done. Striking AT0 as it reads to me as lacking much in hookiness at all, but I really like ALT1 placing desert subterranean termites on a ceiling. This is supported by the source, so passing ALT1. CMD (talk) 17:03, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Ustaše Youth

Moved to mainspace by OakMapping (talk). Self-nominated at 20:42, 9 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 5[edit]

Pushbacks in Greece

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 11:39, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg – The article is long enough (16,688 characters) and new enough (created on October 4, 2021). It cites various sources, and Earwig's Copyvio detector shows 29.1% similarity (violation unlikely). But ... It has few neutrality issues including a neutrality tag. The hook seems fine, and maybe cited in the article. Can we have a source here? Rest, a QPQ has been done. Till the neutrality concerns are resolved, this DYK nomination should be on hold. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 06:57, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Pushback (migration)

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 11:38, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Bonifasius Belawan Geh

Created by Nyanardsan (talk). Self-nominated at 11:23, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Personally, I'd go for ALT1. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 01:52, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol question.svg Article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and I didn't find any close paraphrasing. QPQ has been done. Concurring with Sdkb that ALT1 is the hookiest hook; assuming good faith for the Indonesian source. However, because the hook fact for ALT1 is spread over multiple sentences, each of these sentences need to have a footnote rather than just the end of the paragraph. In addition, both the hooks and the article could use some copyediting. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:24, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

IBM PCradio

  • ... that the IBM PCradio could receive faxes twice as fast as it could receive standard cellular data? Source: "4,800 bits per second (bps) in wireless communications and ... a 9,600-bps facsimile." 3
    • ALT1:... that IBM spent $50 million to develop the PCradio and expected to sell 100,000 units, but ended up selling just under 10,000? Source: "IBM spent an estimated $50 million to develop the PCradio, but it sold fewer than 10,000 of them, according to En Route Technology, a computer trade publication." 1
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 09:10, 5 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 6[edit]

Susan Chitty

  • Comment: Review will done shortly.

Created by Meanderingbartender (talk). Self-nominated at 08:58, 13 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • New and long enough, and despite the hook, neutral. QPQ needed (I think). Earwig finds nothing but book titles etc. Johnbod (talk) 20:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Topre

Topre switch
Topre switch
  • ... that the young engineer behind Topre's conical-spring capacitive keyboard switch was inspired by mosquito coil? Source: "Then came a breakthrough. A young engineer, inspired by a "katori senko," a coiled spiral strip that, when lighted, wards off mosquitoes, suggested a similar design: The keyboard plunger would be joined to the printed circuit board by a conical spiral beneath each key. 'We let him make a prototype," recalls Mr. Miwa. "We found it would work.'" (Tharp, Mike (September 23, 1985). "Success Story: One Man from Japan Gains U.S. Beachhead for His Tokyo Firm". The Wall Street Journal. ProQuest 397910536)
    • ALT1:... that a reviewer called Topre's Realforce the "Aston Martin One-77 of the keyboard world"? Source: "We test drive the Aston Martin One-77 of the keyboard world" (Hayward, David (March 5, 2014). "Topre Realforce 88UB". Micro Mart. ProQuest 1517932885)
  • Reviewed: gotta do

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 22:43, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

The Incredible Hulk: The Pantheon Saga

Improved to Good Article status by Cat's Tuxedo (talk). Self-nominated at 15:34, 6 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 7[edit]

The End of Illa

José Moselli, author of the 1925 French science fiction novella The End of Illa
José Moselli, author of the 1925 French science fiction novella The End of Illa
  • ... that according to science fiction essayist Jacques Van Herp, the novella The End of Illa (author pictured) sounded the temporary death knell of French science fiction? Quote from article: "In 1994, in a postscript written during the reissuing of the work by the Grama publisher, the science fiction essayist Jacques Van Herp argues that this novel was the origin of the temporary decline of French science fiction, on the grounds that it was suspected by the Amiens tribunal of perverting the youth.[6] Even though this hypothesis is contested[3]--or at least taken with precaution--it testifies to the progressive disappearance of stories of scientific imagination starting from the 1930s[49], notably through the practice of self-censorship by authors.[6]" [6] is a book, but source [3] is a magazine article available online and confirms that Jacques van Herp made this claim.
    • ALT1: ... that according to science fiction writer Philippe Curval, the 1925 French science fiction novella The End of Illa (author pictured) was prophetic of the horrors of the Third Reich? Quote from article: "According to Philippe Curval, the 1925 novel accomplishes the feat of anticipating, twenty years in advance, the horrors instigated by the Third Reich.[3]", where [3] is available online

Created by Bowlhover (talk). Self-nominated at 06:26, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Donald McGuire (Jesuit)

Created by Polska jest Najważniejsza (talk). Nominated by DeCausa (talk) at 00:13, 10 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Janet Wilmshurst

Created by DrThneed (talk). Self-nominated at 19:06, 7 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Note October 12th is Ada Lovelace Day, would be good to have a woman in STEM on the front page (but might be a bit late for this one!). DrThneed (talk) 19:34, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The hook reuses the language without quotation, it would either have to be rephrased or quoted somehow. Also, I've suggested a cheeky (pun intended) hook that could be used for April Fools' day, if you'd like.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg @DrThneed: We're almost there! Nice work on the article—just have to clear a few things up. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 18:24, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Theleekycauldron, Thanks for the ALT hook. I hadn't thought of it for April Fool's Day, I have no objections to it - do I need to repost the template in the special holding area for that? And yes I'll take a look another look at the article to make it less CV like (we're having a women in STEM editathon on Tues so I will do it then). Thanks! DrThneed (talk) 23:26, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@DrThneed: not at all! I'll move the nom to the AFD area after I approve it. Sounds like a plan, let me know! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 23:50, 8 October 2021 (UTC)[]
DrThneed? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 20:07, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Ooops sorry User:Theleekycauldron this one dropped off my to do list, will ping when ready, hopefully tomorrow. DrThneed (talk) 07:22, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 8[edit]

Boost Drinks

  • ... that Boost Drinks was originally known as Blast UK Limited? Source: 1
    • ALT1: ... that Boost Drinks sold a limited edition grape and cherry flavour known as Cosmic Glow? Source: 2
    • ALT2: ... that Boost Drinks is the official energy drinks partner of Leeds United? Source: 3

5x expanded by Sahaib3005 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:59, 14 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Reply Corporation

  • ... that Reply Corporation went from competing against IBM with clones of the PS/2 to selling upgrade motherboards for them? Source: "In October 1992 the company laid off 40 of its 100 employees and set in place an entirely new strategy. Petracca went to his customers to ask how Reply should reinvent itself. After conducting an elaborate survey of the company's customer base, in January 1993 Reply successfully introduced motherboards and upgrades for the PS/2 installed base, and the company again closed the year with revenues of $37 million" (Ehrenfeld 1995, p. 72.)
    • ALT1:... that Reply Corporation was the first computer manufacturer to offer x86 silicon manufactured by IBM? "IBM Corp. has signed its first OEM agreement for its 386SLC and 486SLC processors with Reply Corp., which has agreed to start carrying boards with IBM's modified chips. Reply expects to start shipping a 386SLC-based system by the end of this month ..." (Quinlan 1989a)
  • Reviewed: I.O.U.

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 01:26, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 9[edit]

Pankratius Pfeiffer

  • ... that Salvatorian priest Pankratius Pfeiffer saved hundreds of Jews in Rome during the Second World War? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Ergo Sum (talk). Self-nominated at 17:52, 9 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New article that was created on 9 October 2021‎ is 3,212 characters and nominated on the same day. No copyvios detected and duplication detector of [32][33][34][35][36] reveal no close paraphrasing issues (AGF PDF docs which can't go through Dup detector). Article is well-sourced. Hook is 103 characters long (under 200 character max.) and is interesting. Refs 4 and 5 (verifying the hook) are reliable sources. QPQ done. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:41, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Too many red flags here. If he really saved hundreds of Jews, you would expect plenty of confirmation of this in scholarly sources and him to be recognized by Yad Vashem. I can't count the number of times that I've seen mainstream newspapers print completely false stories about Jews being rescued during the holocaust, so better sources are definitely needed to confirm these extraordinary claims. Thanks Brigade Piron for letting me know about this. (t · c) buidhe 16:51, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I have to admit I'm just a bit perplexed by the argument. Except in fairly uncommon cases of multiple RS that contradict each other, we don't generally recognize any "hierarchy" of reliable sources. Sources are either RS or they are not. So I'm not sure what kind of sources you have in mind as "better" sources. The ones currently cited in the article are all RS, so that should be the end of it. I might add that if you seek some manner of official imprimatur in the vein of Yad Vashem, the City of Rome named a street after him.
  • Your point about why there isn't more extensive coverage of this historical figure is well taken but can easily be attributed to the fact that all manner of historical figures are lost to history, especially those who are notable really for one major event in their life that did not come to light until years later, as is the case here. Indeed, one of the RS in this article describes Pfeiffer as being "lost to history." I'm adding the new review icon here so that we can get at least one more editor's evaluation of this. Ergo Sum 13:32, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • There are very few people who actually saved hundreds of Jews during the Holocaust and plenty of hoaxes that were reported as truth by various news organizations—for example Necdet Kent. In other cases, actual rescue did occur but the numbers are greatly exaggerated and repeated uncritically by news organizations, such as Raoul Wallenberg. If the story is true you would expect to see it covered in many more credible sources. There are plenty of cases where a source is reliable for some info but not others. For example, someone's CV is often reliable for "they worked at X organization" but not "they are a world expert in Z". Extraordinary claims require extraordinary sourcing. (t · c) buidhe 21:27, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • I should say that I share Buidhe's concerns. I think saying that "all manner of historical figures are lost to history" rather side-steps the sheer volume of historical scholarship on all aspects of the Holocaust. On a more banal note, I think part of the problem is that the sources cited are, essentially, all journalistic sources published by explicitly Catholic or Salvatorian outlets. The specific sources cited for the "saved" claim are Romereports (I am not familiar with this outlet, but the typo in the video does not inspire confidence) and a self-published Salvatorian newsletter. Neither are scholarly sources and both are, again, explicitly confessional in nature. I think WP:BIASED may on point in a highly sensitive issue touching on the wider disputes about Pope Pius XII and the Holocaust. Do we know what the Samerski book says, for example? —Brigade Piron (talk) 08:55, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Buidhe It is true that the sources cover Catholic issues, but only the Salvatorian one is actually published by a Catholic institution. I need not go into how many varied Catholic newspapers are in their adherence/faithfulness to the Catholic hierarchy and beliefs (see e.g. National Catholic Reporter versus National Catholic Register).
  • But more direclty, there actually are many scholarly RS that discussion Pfeiffer and his works in Nazi-occupied Rome. You will find them on the other language versions of this article. The problem is that I do not read Italian or German well enough to use them in the article. Coverage is not the issue. It is English language coverage. Ergo Sum 13:48, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Mattea Conforti

Moved to mainspace by Pamzeis (talk) and S0091 (talk). Nominated by Pamzeis (talk) at 05:10, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Crime in Latvia

Created by TootsieRollsAddict (talk). Self-nominated at 06:51, 10 October 2021 (UTC).[]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - Doesn't seem like the hook is quite accurate—quoting "crime capital of Europe" makes it seem like Forbes said specifically those words, but the source doesn't bear that out
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg @TootsieRollsAddict: Nice work so far! There's some work left to do—you might want to request a copyedit from the Guild of Copyeditors. Your choice, though. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 03:29, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

@Theleekycauldron:The ironic fact about this is that I MYSELF am a Guild Of Copy Editors member, although I don't do too much. But I got rid of the close paraphrasing, and here is the Forbes article that mentions exactly what the DYK says: this one. You can tell me more later, although don't expect me to reply for a long time. TootsieRollsAddict (talk to me pls I am lonely) 11:28, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@TootsieRollsAddict: ah, haha! that is ironic. We're good on paraphrasing, but we'll still need a copyedit, and i don't see the words "crime capital of Europe" in that order anywhere in the forbes article. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 17:20, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Maybe I'll write a new alt. I don't know about the copyediting part though. Maybe I'll have to request one. TootsieRollsAddict (talk to me pls I am lonely) 00:17, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Corsi-Rosenthal Box

Corsi-Rosenthal Box
Corsi-Rosenthal Box

Created by Festucarubra (talk) and GorillaWarfare (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 21:57, 9 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Added ALT1. The wildfire thing is perhaps a bit misleading, since that was more used to validate that it could remove COVID-19 particles; it wasn't really designed for that purpose so much as it's similar to something else that was used for wildfires. GorillaWarfare (she/her • talk) 23:39, 9 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • That is a fair point - reviewers take note. Same source can apply. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:27, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 10[edit]

Joe Youssefi

  • ... that Iranian-American aerospace engineer Joe Youssefi was posthumously awarded a gold medal for his collection of Persian stamps?
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: To be done

Created by Philafrenzy (talk). Self-nominated at 21:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

The Man Who Died Twice (novel)

  • Comment: Noting that I've highlighted Osman's authorship in all the hooks due to a hope that his celebrity will lead to more interest in the book's page.

Moved to mainspace by Sdrqaz (talk). Self-nominated at 00:16, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

This is just a comment, not a full review. I think ALT1 and 4 are misleading. The full quote from the source is It sold 114,202 copies in its first three days on sale last week (including pre-orders), according to Nielsen BookScan – a performance which the sales monitor said made it one of the fastest-selling novels since it began to track sales in the late 1990s. So it's one of the fastest-selling novels since the records of one particular service began in the 90s... the current phrasing seems to imply by omission that it's one of the best-selling novels in literary history. Spicy (talk) 04:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
(Slightly surprised by how quick a comment came, given how my other nomination has languished ...) Spicy, I'm fine with a change from "best-selling" to "fastest-selling". As for the thing about Nielsen, it appears that it is considered an authoritative source for these things (rather like its sister company's Nielsen ratings in America). If we use the used by others standard, they've been used by The Guardian (obviously), the BBC, The Telegraph, The Times, and were called the "official book sales monitor" by The Guardian and The Huffington Post and has been widely accepted for years in the industry: it's not just another provider (perhaps akin to Gallup polls or Ann Selzer in American polling). I don't think I quoted The Guardian out of context, given it was verbatim from the text (they qualified the statistic later on in the article). Apparently this use of hard statistics when calculating book sales is a relatively recent phenomenon, strangely enough. It may be that as peculiar as the statistic is, it's an accurate one. Sdrqaz (talk) 14:22, 11 October 2021 (UTC)[]
I have struck all hooks that use the term "best-selling novels since records began" because it's so far from true: the source is discussing first week sales in the UK (including preorders), while "best-selling", as Spicy notes, has to be assumed to be total sales ever without further context. The hooks as written are misleading and would have been pulled if promoted, so better to strike them now. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:20, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Also, thinking about it, the final four Harry Potter novels all sold millions of copies their first day on sale, so Nielsen is clearly on very shaky ground. Any kind of selling-related hook is going to need a better source with better context. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:37, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
If it'll prevent a thread at ERRORS (I had that joyous experience for shadow docket) I'll respect the decision. I've provided ALT4a and ALT4b in an attempt to salvage the underlying fact behind ALT4, but the other hooks are probably stronger. Sdrqaz (talk) 07:39, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:59, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Archon of Pella

5x expanded by MRichards01 (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 04:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 11[edit]

Grant Morgan (American football)

Created by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 19:37, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Advocate General (European Union)

  • ... that thanks to Advocate General's opinions, one is likely to know the outcome of the court case before the European Court of Justice before it even starts drafting the ruling? Source: "likely to know": see in-article stats on convergence of AG's and Court's opinion; "before it even starts drafting the ruling": [39]

Created by Szmenderowiecki (talk). Self-nominated at 12:09, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Dianxi Xiaoge

  • ... that Dianxi Xiaoge, who grew up in a remote Yunnan mountain without running water, is one of only three Chinese Internet celebrities who have reached international prominence?
    Source:
    1. 诸未静 (2019-12-23). 林涛 (ed.). "网红出海热 谁能成为下一个"李子柒"？" [Internet celebrities are become popular overseas. Who can become the next "Li Ziqi"?]. Southern Metropolis Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2021-10-11. Retrieved 2021-10-11 – via Nanfang Daily.

      The article notes: "NoxInfluencer统计结果显示，真正在海外走红并成功变现的中国区网红只有排名前三位的“办公室小野”“李子柒”和“滇西小哥”。三者的视频均是“美食默片”，长度控制在5至10分钟，出镜者言语不多，借助简单英文字幕即可让全世界网友心领神会。"

      From Google Translate: "NoxInfluencer statistics show that the only Chinese Internet celebrities who have become popular overseas and been successfully realized are only the top three of Ms Yeah, Li Ziqi, and Dianxi Xiaoge. The three vloggers' channels all make "food silent films", the length is controlled at 5 to 10 minutes, and the person who appears on the screen doesn't speak much. With the help of simple English subtitles, netizens all over the world can understand."

    2. 严瑜 (2020-09-03). 胡文卉 (ed.). "访侨乡保山美食博主"滇西小哥"：感受朴素的幸福" [Interviewing Baoshan food blogger Dianxi Xiaoge in a region well-known for Chinese expatriates: Feel the simple happiness]. People's Daily (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2021-10-11. Retrieved 2021-10-11.

      The article notes: "“小哥”，说的便是“滇西小哥”。这位全网粉丝量超过1600万的美食博主，制作发布的云南美食视频，单期平均播放量达2000万次左右。这样一位美食博主，竟然生活在如此偏僻的山野之中？ ... “滇西小哥”本名董梅华，是个“90后”。算起来，回乡已有4年。“小时候，走出去的愿望特别强烈。... 高考填志愿，一所云南的学校都没选， ... 在“滇西小哥”的记忆里，上小学之前，村里还没通自来水。每天清晨，妈妈都得起个大早，去山脚的那口泉眼挑几大桶水回来。"

      From Google Translate: ""Little Brother" refers to "Dianxi Xiaoge". This food blogger with more than 16 million fans on the entire network has produced and released Yunnan food videos with an average of about 20 million views in a single issue. Such a food blogger lives in such remote mountains? ... "Dianxi Xiaoge", whose real name is Dong Meihua, is a "post-90s". After calculating, it has been 4 years since she returned to her hometown. "When I was young, I had a strong desire to go out.... Filling up my wish for the college entrance examination, I didn't choose a school in Yunnan. ... In the memory of Dianxi Xiaoge, before she went to primary school, the village had no running water. Every morning, her mother had to get up early to pick up a few large buckets of water from the spring at the foot of the mountain."

Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 07:49, 11 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • The phrase "真正在海外走红并成功变现的中国区网红只有排名前三位的" means "the only Chinese Internet celebrities who have truly become prominent overseas and successfully cashed in are the top three [in the rankings...] 变现 means to monetize (literally: turn into cash), not "successfully realized". But the article doesn't say what it means to "truly become prominent", nor what it means to "successfully cash in", so the hook seems vague. --Bowlhover (talk) 06:18, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 12[edit]

Luc Tardif Sr.

  • Reviewed: Stadium district
  • Comment: I have nominated this article today in a rush to meet the seven-day deadline for DYK. I am busy in real life and cannot respond to any questions until October 23. Thanks in advance for understanding.

Created by Redacwiki (talk). Co-nominated by Flibirigit (talk) and HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) at 17:47, 19 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • I am adding an ALT here:
  • ALT1 ... that Luc Tardif Sr. gained French citizenship to play ice hockey?
  • ALT2 ... that Luc Tardif Sr. left Canada to become a French citizen in order to play ice hockey?
  • I think this is an interesting ALT seeing as France is not typically viewed as a place for an ice hockey career. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 21:38, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg @HickoryOughtShirt?4:, Thanks for the added ALTs. I have added you as a co-nominator, and feel free to respond to any review or question. A full review is still needed, and I will not be online again until October 23. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 22:10, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Micah Joseph Lebensohn

Micah Joseph Lebensohn
Micah Joseph Lebensohn

5x expanded by Ploni (talk). Self-nominated at 02:04, 14 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • @Ploni: Symbol delete vote.svg DYK Check shows the article has not 5x expanded yet in the past 10 days. Htanaungg (talk) 11:48, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • More specifically, Ploni, it was 1309 prose characters before your edits, and it's currently 4537, meaning another 2008 would be required for a five times expansion. Can you further expand the article? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:44, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Thanks for reviewing! I may not have the chance to work on it for the next while, so feel free to reject the nomination if I haven't 5× expanded it within 10 days after the initial expansion. –Ploni (talk) 01:04, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Willy von Beckerath

Brahms am Flügel, 1896
Brahms am Flügel, 1896
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by WQUlrich (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:51, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment: I noticed that in the article, there is no explicit claim on the chronology of his Brahms portraits (besides the 1896 dating of the painting, which remains to be cited) to support this DYK. GeneralPoxter (talk • contribs) 14:28, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[]
    Perhaps you could just find a better hook wording. What strikes me is that the old Brahms was depicted by a rather young man. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 14 October 2021 (UTC)[]
    I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Cabinet cup. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:12, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Kaczyzm

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 09:13, 12 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on October 13[edit]

Harriet Pattison

  • ... that landscape architect Harriet Pattison collaborated with her lover Louis Kahn on the design of Four Freedoms Park and the grounds of the Kimbell Art Museum?Source: "The book ends with the 2012 opening of the Four Freedoms Park on Roosevelt Island in New York, a long-delayed memorial to FDR on which Pattison and Kahn collaborated towards the end of his life" (The Guardian)Source: "She worked for a firm in the same building as Kahn’s firm and intermittently for Kahn, too (off in a closetlike space in case of a surprise visit from Esther); key among her projects was the site planning and early landscape design for the Kimbell Art Museum." (Architectural Record)
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: moved from draft to mainspace on 13 October

Created by Thriley (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is long enough and new enough. The hook is directly cited. I assume good faith on The Guardian link because it says that I need to register to read the full article. A QPQ is needed. SL93 (talk) 17:14, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 14[edit]

American Computer and Peripheral

  • ... that American Computer and Peripheral's 386 Translator, released ahead of the first computer with a 386 processor, ran a 286-equipped PC/AT 10 percent slower? Source: "One such product is called the 386 Translator. It’s a plug-in piggyback card that replaces the 80286 in a standard IBM PC/AT with an 80386 and some support circuitry. The new board allows developers to create software that takes advantage of the 386's ability to run simultaneously in several different modes. The only penalty seems to be that an AT with the 386 Translator board runs about 10 percent slower than an unmodified machine because of the wait states that must be inserted for 386 memory accesses" (Nelson 1986, p. 32.)
    • ALT1:... that according to InfoWorld, the manual for American Computer and Peripheral's 386 upgrade board describes removing the existing processor in a way that could "easily damage the system board"? Source: "Documentation for the 386 Turbo Accelerator is lacking in several key areas. Both the wording and the diagrams are unclear, and a user could easily damage the system board by removing the 286 chip as directed in the manual ..." (Satchell 1988, p. 48.)
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by DigitalIceAge (talk). Self-nominated at 20:55, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Eva Olsson (scientist)

Eva Olsson "more women nominated"
Eva Olsson "more women nominated"
  • Comment: Women in STEM this month for Women in Red, and every month for Jess.
Reviewed: Women Who Fight Roundabout

Created by Jesswade88 (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 09:58, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment While the point Olsson is making in the proposed hook is a valid one, it doesn't give any context about who she is (a member of the Nobel selection committee for Physics) or speak to her breakthrough work with electron microscopes. I'd offer up as a possible ALT1: "... that materials scientist Eva Olsson (pictured) pioneered the use of electron microscopes to study soft materials." —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 18:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Cueva de las Manos

Hands, at Cueva de las Manos
Hands, at Cueva de las Manos
  • ... that of the hundreds of hands stenciled at Cueva de las Manos as artwork (pictured), very few show a right hand? Source: "Cueva de las Manos . . . yielded counts of 329 left hands to 31 right ones" ([45])
    • ALT1:... that the artwork at Cueva de las Manos (pictured) was first created between 13,000 and 9,500 years ago? Source: "The Cueva de las Manos, Río Pinturas, contains an exceptional assemblage of cave art, executed between 13,000 and 9,500 years ago." ([46])

Improved to Good Article status by Tyrone Madera (talk). Self-nominated at 02:58, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • The lead states: "The art in the cave dates to between 11,000 to 7,000 BC". That’s a 500 years discrepancy with ALT1. Schwede66 07:39, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Schwede66, I've fixed the discrepancy. Thanks for pointing that out! Tyrone Madera (talk) 23:07, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 15[edit]

Susan Bernal

  • ... that as between 5 and 8% of global CO2 emissions are caused by concrete, Colombian-born Susan Bernal is developing new and novel cements?Source: ""
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: Bagenal's Castle
  • Comment: a Green Women in STEM who was one of the Women in Red

Created by Jesswade88 (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 19:40, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Lorenza Böttner

  • ... that Lorenza Böttner, a mouth and foot painter, had both of her arms amputated following an electrocution? Source: "At the age of eight, Ernst suffered an accident in which he was electrocuted by power lines he had climbed while chasing after a bird; this resulted in the amputation of both of his arms" [47]
    • ALT1:... that Lorenza Böttner, an artist who had both arms amputated, played the role of Petra at the 1992 Summer Paralympics? Source: "Back in Europe, she played the part of Petra, the mascot of the 1992 Paraolympics in Barcelona, who was drawn by the artist Javier Mariscal (born in 1950)." [48]
    • ALT2:... that the art of Lorenza Böttner depicts herself, as well as marginalized figures, such as prostitutes, those facing police violence, and lesbian and gay people? Source: "While the vast majority of Lorenza’s photos and oil paintings are self-portraits ... These paintings introduce a gallery of socially subaltern characters with whom the artist established an alliance through drawing: Amsterdam prostitutes, African Americans as the object of police violence in New York, lesbian sexuality under the shadow of the male gaze, and gay sexuality depicted as a tender bond." [49]

Created by Urve (talk). Self-nominated at 11:40, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Robert Wertheim

Moved to mainspace by RightCowLeftCoast (talk). Self-nominated at 03:10, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

If possible please hold this article for Veterans Day.--RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:19, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 16[edit]

Rail transport in Lithuania

Train near Vilnius
Train near Vilnius
  • Comment: Self nomination; effectively a new article, but the page was already present as a redirect. A different image can be selected based on the preferred hook.

5x expanded by Mindaur (talk). Self-nominated at 13:54, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Bagenal's Castle

  • ... that Bagenal's Castle was originally thought to have been destroyed, but was rediscovered in 1996 in the premises of a bakery? Source: [54]

Created by Jurtaa (talk). Self-nominated at 19:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The text is too similar to the sources. Whole sentences are taken from here with no (or only trivial) changes. Wikipedia articles have to be "in your own words". You cannot take a sentence and use it if someone else wrote it. Neither can you change it a bit. It needs rewording completely. Worth the effort, I think. Victuallers (talk) 22:02, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Earl Old Person

Earl Old Person
Earl Old Person

Created/expanded by Montanabw (talk). Self-nominated at 18:37, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]


Umberto Lenzi filmography

Created by Grapple X (talk). Self-nominated at 17:10, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Christiaan Huygens

One of the first pendulum clocks designed by Christiaan Huygens alongside his treatise Horologium Oscillatorium (1673)
One of the first pendulum clocks designed by Christiaan Huygens alongside his treatise Horologium Oscillatorium (1673)
  • ... that the first pendulum clock was invented in 1657 by Christiaan Huygens? Source: In 1657, inspired by earlier research into pendulums as regulating mechanisms, Christiaan Huygens invented the pendulum clock, which was a breakthrough in timekeeping and became the most accurate timekeeper for the next 275 years until the 1930s. Marrison, W. (1948). "The Evolution of the Quartz Crystal Clock". Bell System Technical Journal. 27 (3): 510–588. doi:10.1002/j.1538-7305.1948.tb01343.x.

Improved to Good Article status by Guillermind81 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:24, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Starting this review shortly. Ktin (talk) 20:06, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

QPQ: Question?
Overall: Symbol question.svg Article meets eligibility criteria. Was recently promoted to GA. I will lean heavily on the due-diligence done during the GA promotion process. Taking the hook citation from the reference. The image is used in the article and looks reasonable. I find the hook interesting, though it is a matter of personal preference. I do not see a QPQ. Please share that once done. Ktin (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Ktin, as best I can determine, this is the first DYK by this nominator. As such, they are not required to supply a QPQ. Also, with all due respect, DYK reviewers should never rely on the GA review for anything here at DYK: it is your responsibility to do all of the usual checks, from neutrality to the inline citations in each paragraph to copyvio/close paraphrasing/plagiarism checks. We have found issues with some past GAs that have required fixing at DYK (and more than one GA has been revoked because of DYK scrutiny). Thank you for not leaning at all on this one or in future reviews. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:23, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Sounds good @BlueMoonset:. @Guillermind81: -- firstly, amazing work on the article. I have added a few [citation needed] tags across the article. Should be easy to fix. Most of them might just need addition of a reference that has already been used elsewhere in the article, I suspect. Found that the works section was lacking in sources. Can you have a look at that as well? Ktin (talk) 04:16, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ktin: Thanks for your feedback. I've added the references requested in the original article, including the works section. Let me know if there are any other edits you think are necessary. Guillermind81 (talk) 16:34, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Thanks @Guillermind81: that was quick. I was doing a round of copyvio checks and the tool kept working for a long time (understandable given the size / number of links). But, it came back with a 62.3% violation possible score [58], which I think is not truly reflective of the quality of the article with most of the matches either being names of works that have been rightly used as-is or quoted text. The highest match was was with an Encyclopedia.com article. There is one paragraph and you can see that at the link provided, that seems to be a very close paraphrasing. Using a technique equivalent to Richardson extrapolation, Huygens approximated the centre of gravity of a segment of a circle by the centre of the gravity of a segment of a parabola, and thus finding an approximation of the quadrature; with this he was able to refine the inequalities between the area of the circle and those of the inscribed and circumscribed polygons used in the calculations of π. From these theorems, Huygens obtained two set of values, the first between 3.1415926 and 3.1415927, and the second between 3.1415926538 and 3.1415926533. Huygens also showed that the same approximation with segments of the parabola, in the case of the hyperbola, yields a quick and simple method to calculate logarithms. He appended a collection of solutions to classical problems at the end of the work under the title Illustrium Quorundam Problematum Constructiones (Construction of some illustrious problems). Please can you re-examine this text? I think once done we are almost there. Ktin (talk) 03:13, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Ktin: Thanks again for getting back to me. I've changed the wording based on your feedback; let me know if further changes are needed.Guillermind81 (talk) 16:40, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]
@Guillermind81:, Thanks much. Looks good. [59] Copyvio score says 53%, but, most of the hits are phrases, names of works, and direct quotes. Should be good imo. Added two minor [citation needed] tags. Please have a look. Once that is done. I will approve this hook. Ktin (talk) 18:23, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Johannes Schröder

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:47, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Bourbaki Panorama

Detail from the Bourbaki Panorama showing French soldiers piling arms
Detail from the Bourbaki Panorama showing French soldiers piling arms
  • ... that the 115 metre (377 foot) -long Bourbaki Panorama (extract pictured) depicts the internment of 88,000 French soldiers in neutral Switzerland at the end of the Franco-Prussian War? "980x11,500cm ... this panorama illustrates and event that took place at the end of the Franco-Prussian War when General Bourbaki's eastern artm ... fled to Switzerland ... documents record that 88,000 men marched into Switzerland" from: Comment, Bernard (2002). The Panorama. Reaktion Books. p. 214. ISBN 978-1-86189-123-5.

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:23, 16 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Figures and background painting from the Panorama
Figures and background painting from the Panorama
The second image should be used if ALT1 is chosen but either (or any other from the article) could be used for the others - Dumelow (talk)


Articles created/expanded on October 17[edit]

Microberlinia bisulcata

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 08:15, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Rise Bar

  • ... that more than 400 people living near Rise Bar supported a motion to keep it open later? Source: "More than 400 neighborhood residents have written letters endorsing the proposed 4 a.m. closing time." ([60])
    • ALT1:... that Rise Bar's management spent more than US$110,000 soundproofing the space, which holds just 74 patrons? Source: "Before Rise opened last November, the venue's landlord spent around $90,000 on soundproofing throughout the building, Blair said. Additionally, he spent approximately $20,000 hiring a sound engineer to install paneling and conduct sound checks." ([61])

Moved to mainspace by Armadillopteryx (talk). Self-nominated at 22:46, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Emil Utitz

Moved to mainspace by Kusma (talk). Self-nominated at 21:10, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Gerd Ruge

German journalist Gerd Ruge
German journalist Gerd Ruge

5x expanded by Ktin (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Ktin (talk) at 16:39, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment (not review): I suggest a grammar tweak ALT0a:... that German reporter Gerd Ruge (pictured) formed a lasting friendship with author Boris Pasternak and named his son Boris after him?
  • rephrased alt0 - this is NOT a review Victuallers (talk) 22:18, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • Comment. I like ALT0a. I have also added ALT1 which might also be worthy of consideration for WP:DYK. Ktin (talk) 21:57, 19 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Myrtle Edwards (politician)

Created by SounderBruce (talk) and WomenProj (talk). Nominated by SounderBruce (talk) at 03:38, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • I will start the review here shortly. DYK Check says that this article is a stub currently, which might mean the article has to be expanded and / or the stub tag removed from the article. Please can you have that done while I complete the review. Ktin (talk) 01:14, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

General eligibility:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

QPQ: Red XN - ?
Overall: Symbol question.svg Article is new. At ~1750 characters it is above the DYK minimum of 1500 characters. However, the article has been tagged a stub which needs to be removed. Article is well sourced and the tone is neutral. Copyvio does not show any issues. Hook is cited and is also used in the article. I would encourage the DYK authors to simplify the hook. Currently reads a tad verbose. Will wait for the QPQ. Handing it back to the authors. Ktin (talk) 01:24, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Miller’s Anatomy of the Dog

  • Reviewed: This is my second DYK nomination, I have not reviewed another article.

Created by DferDaisy (talk). Self-nominated at 00:34, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Der Bazar

Created by Egeymi (talk). Self-nominated at 05:54, 17 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 18[edit]

Andreas Reize

  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: This just happened.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Grimes2 (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:00, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Unity Dow

Unity Dow, 2011
Unity Dow, 2011
  • ... that Unity Dow's (pictured) actions as a plaintiff and legal counsellor successfully challenged gender discrimination in Botswana law? pp 48-50 Botswana: The Unity Dow Citizenship Case and "Refusal to register LEGABIBO was not reasonably justifiable under the Constitution. It violated the applicants' rights to freedom of expression, freedom of association and freedom of assembly as enshrined under Sections 3, 12 and 13 of the Constitution of Botswana," said the judge...Former High Court Judge and renowned human rights lawyer Unity Dow represented the applicants in this case"[64]
  • Reviewed: Lesley Akyaa Opoku Ware
  • Comment: I really, really want her to have the photo slot if that is at all possible.

Improved to Good Article status by SusunW (talk), Ipigott (talk), and GRuban (talk). Nominated by SusunW (talk) at 18:29, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Margaret Louden

  • ... that Margaret Louden developed a technique used to save people crushed by rubble during the The Blitz, but did not write up her work and her contribution was forgotten until the 1990s? Source: Plarr's Lives of the Fellows
    • ALT1:... that Margaret Louden treated Sir James Martin, the inventor of the ejector seat, after he had been injured in a fight and then advised him on the effects of ejection on the skeleton? Source: Powell & Ramsay, Georgia & Katharine (2005). Chin up, Girls! A book of women's obituaries. Great Britain: Hodder Headline. pp. 43–46. ISBN 0-7195-6300-3.

Created by Davidjes601 (talk). Nominated by Zeromonk (talk) at 10:55, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Corvus: A Life with Birds

5x expanded by SL93 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:49, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Fuchs Mizrachi School

5x expanded by Theleekycauldron (talk). Self-nominated at 00:22, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Falling for Figaro

Created by Filmomusico (talk). Self-nominated at 00:20, 18 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Articles created/expanded on October 19[edit]

Alpha Phi Beta

  • ... that Filipino fraternity Alpha Phi Beta has been involved in many instances of violence, including getting mauled by rivals Sigma Rho? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/KHXS
  • Comment: COI with creator, although they are not main authors of article. Other editors probably have COI too due to internal university sources, but don't think venturing into that is necessary seeing balance in article.

Created by Alphaphibeta (talk) and Audibose (talk). Nominated by A. C. Santacruz (talk) at 09:13, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]

CSS Maurepas

Created by Hog Farm (talk). Nominated by A. C. Santacruz (talk) at 09:21, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  •  Comment:: the translation from French is my own. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Talk 09:38, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Forresters Manuscript

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Florissantia (plant)
  • Comment: Hook is uncited within article, wanted to create DYKnom anyways and ping K9feline2 in the process.

Created by K9feline2 (talk). Nominated by A. C. Santacruz (talk) at 09:35, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Pixel 6

  • ... that the Pixel 6 is the first smartphone to be powered by the Google Tensor system-on-chip (SoC)? Source: "The Pixel 6 marks the first time Google has put a mobile TPU in a phone." (The Verge)
  • Reviewed: This is my first DYK nomination, so if I understand correctly I am exempt from QPQ.
  • Comment: Article created in draftspace on August 2, moved to mainspace on October 19.

Moved to mainspace by InfiniteNexus (talk). Self-nominated at 06:39, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Feetloaf

Feetloaf
Feetloaf

Created by RoySmith (talk). Self-nominated at 03:07, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - See below
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral and plagiarism-free. Although the hook is interesting and cited, it seems to be stating an opinion as a fact, which I believe violates WP:DYK#Content: The hook should refer to established facts that are unlikely to change [...] [and] be neutral (emphasis in original). QPQ has been done. Pamzeis (talk) 05:08, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

  • I'd also like to point out that "absolutely disgusting" should probably be quoted—on a side note, this is a delightful article on a horrifying subject and I was happier when I didn't know that existed. Nice work on the article! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:00, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • @RoySmith and Pamzeis: Although if I have to suffer, I would like others to suffer as well—therefore, I strongly recommend that the image in the infobox be used at DYK theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 06:19, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
  • I've added an ALT0a which quotes "absolutely disgusting". As for this not being an "established fact", I hope I never live in a world where offering severed human feet to neighborhood children is not considered absolutely disgusting. I've also added an ALT1, which has less shock value, but is more mysterious; I think I actually like it better than my original, for that reason. I'd be happy to have the image be used. I'm afraid I'm not smart enough to know how to rework my nomination to add that to the template, so could somebody please assist me on that? Thanks. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:43, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
The more I think about it, the more I prefer ALT1. Since it refers to something near the end of the article, it keeps people interested long enough to get to the end. Oh, what a twisted world I live in that I'm excited about having written a click-baity headline. -- RoySmith (talk) 14:51, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]
Added the image—good god is this quite the hook. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 14:58, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Cwmhiraeth

Cottages at Cwmhiraeth
Cottages at Cwmhiraeth
  • Reviewed: Michael Sumpter
  • Comment: This isn't, like, my best work or anything, so I'm happy to work with nearly any changes the reviewer wants to make. My preference would be for ALT1, I do genuinely appreciate the beauty and a little mysticism? of the name of the hamlet. and also, hehehe

5x expanded by Theleekycauldron (talk). Self-nominated at 00:33, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Sutton 58

  • Comment: QPQ pending. Not too many interesting hooks here that I can think of sadly.

Created by Quantocius Quantotius (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 23:05, 19 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Waluburg

5x expanded by Berig (talk). Self-nominated at 09:59, 19 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Courtenay Edward Stevens

  • ... that British classicist Courtenay Edward Stevens produced German-language newspapers and radio broadcasts for British military intelligence in the Second World War? "Stevens served in intelligence during WWII, and is particularly known for producing a set of German language newspapers dropped behind enemy lines" from: "Papers Relating to Courtenay Edward Stevens (F.1933-1972)". Magdalen College archives. Retrieved 19 October 2021. and "His war service was predictably bizarre. He worked on "black propaganda", and was an intelligence -officer with Radio Atlantic, the service beamed at U-boat crews." from: "Mr C. E. Stevens". The Times (59798). 2 September 1976.
    • ALT1:... that British classicist Courtenay Edward Stevens sometimes taught for 72 hours a week at Magdalen College, Oxford? " Pupils both male and female were harvested from all quarters, and taught at all hours and in all surroundings in one 'stupendous week he taught 72 hours, and totals over fifty were commonplace" from: "Mr C. E. Stevens". The Times (59798). 2 September 1976.
    • ALT1:... that it was British classicist Courtenay Edward Stevens who suggested that Allied radio broadcasts during the Second World War use the opening notes of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony as a signature theme?"it was at his suggestion that the four opening notes of Beethoven's Fifth Symphony (the "V" in Morse Code) were adopted as the most famous broadcasting theme of the war" from: "Mr C. E. Stevens". The Times (59798). 2 September 1976.

Converted from a redirect by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 08:35, 19 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Geography of Wisconsin

Improved to Good Article status by JackFromWisconsin (talk). Self-nominated at 22:09, 19 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Symbol question.svg – The article is long enough (13,417 characters) and new enough (promoted GA on October 19, 2021). The hook is well formatted, neutral, interesting, and withing the character limit. The article is well cited and neutral. Earwig's Copyvio detector shows violation unlikely. But two things stand out: firstly, does the hook refer to Wisconsin glaciation? If so, we should mention that it happened just some 17 thousand years ago. Secondly, what is the page number of the book cited here, although good faith can be assumed? QPQ not required. Almost good to go, just clarification needed on few issues. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:30, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Articles created/expanded on October 20[edit]

Didi Gregorius

Didi Gregorius with the New York Yankees in 2017
Didi Gregorius with the New York Yankees in 2017

Improved to Good Article status by GhostRiver (talk). Self-nominated at 15:30, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Darth Vader Giant Pill-Millipede

  • Reviewed: KPEC-TV
  • Comment: I do hope this suffices for an April Fools' Day nomination—my preference would be for ALT2, than ALT1, than ALT0.

Created by The Great Mule of Eupatoria (talk) and Theleekycauldron (talk). Nominated by Theleekycauldron (talk) at 07:20, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]

Lars Fause

Created by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 05:13, 20 October 2021 (UTC).[]

  • Comment: wooooo! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 07:30, 20 October 2021 (UTC) []
  • Comment The hook has been altered as the original was based on a misinterpretation of the sources; the present hook is now correct. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:43, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[]

Special occasion holding area[edit]

The holding area has moved to its new location at the bottom of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.

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