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This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page, by a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area, from which the articles are promoted into the Queue.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
March 7 2
March 24 1
April 2 1
April 5 1
April 7 1
April 9 1
April 11 2
April 12 1
April 13 2
April 14 1 1
April 15 1
April 17 4 1
April 18 2
April 19 2
April 20 4
April 21 1
April 22 2
April 23 1
April 24 3 1
April 25 1
April 26 2
April 27 3
April 28 4 1
April 29 3
April 30 2 1
May 1 1
May 2 5 2
May 3 2 1
May 4 2 1
May 5 3 2
May 6 8 4
May 7 6 2
May 8 4 3
May 9 12 2
May 10 12 6
May 11 7 3
May 12 6 1
May 13 13 6
May 14 14 7
May 15 14 8
May 16 9 2
May 17 8 4
May 18 14 8
May 19 8 5
May 20 6 3
May 21 15 6
May 22 17 8
May 23 6 3
May 24 14 10
May 25 17 8
May 26 19 8
May 27 11 2
May 28 18 7
May 29 10 1
May 30 5 3
May 31 13 2
June 1 9 3
June 2 10 1
June 3 3
Total 369 137
Last updated 11:34, 3 June 2020 UTC
Current time is 11:35, 3 June 2020 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Shortcut

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began or it became a good article (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.
For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.
I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began (or, if a new Good Article, the date on which it became a GA), not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.

How to review a nomination[edit]

Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

Backlogged?[edit]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]


Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • Hooks that have been approved are located on the approved nominations page.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
  • In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
    • Paste the hook into the hook area (be sure to not paste in that that)
    • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
    • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • change |passed= to |passed=yes
    • Add an edit summary, e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", preview, and save

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on March 7[edit]

George Pechell Mends

Created by Broichmore (talk). Self-nominated at 16:35, 12 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Broichmore, Yeah that is exactly what a QPQ is. You get QPQ when you review a did you know nomination. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:41, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - new hook needed that is related to the subject.
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Can be approved after the comments above have been resolved. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

  • @Broichmore: You need to respond to the points raised above, propose a new hook that includes the name of the article, and reformat the references that are bare urls. After that you can ping CAPTAIN MEDUSA so that he can finish the review. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:48, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA:Comments addressed, thanks -Broichmore (talk) 17:50, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
@Broichmore: they are not cited. ATM. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:23, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
@CAPTAIN MEDUSA:Think it's sorted now, thanks -Broichmore (talk) 13:41, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that English sailor George Pechell Mends works are featured in the National Maritime Museum?
ALT3: ... that George Pechell Mends entered the Navy as a volunteer on his father's ship?
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg: These are the hooks that I find interesting. New reviewer needed to approve the hooks. The sources can be found on the article (AGF). Thanks. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 12:18, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg -Article was recent enough, obviously long enough, neutral, hook is cited in the article, no copyvio/closeparaphrasing (excepting bald facts), the hooks are within character limit, accurate, sourced, and possibly interesting to a broad audience. Passing ALT2 by a margin? serial # 12:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but the article hardly looks ready for the main page. The lead is too short and does not show his notability. Any mention of his art career is confined to image captions that are not sourced. ALT2 and ALT3 are very ho-hum. Is there any way to expand and source the section under "Art career" and then propose a hook along the lines of ALT1? Yoninah (talk) 17:58, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I have expanded the lead. As the subject is known mainly for his art, a picture hook would be best. I suggest the following. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:50, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
HMS Conqueror wrecked at Rum Cay
HMS Conqueror wrecked at Rum Cay
  • Thank you, Andrew Davidson, but as I said above, the whole section on his art career is missing. All the text in captions should be moved into the prose portion of an art section; then the images could run as the gallery. The ALT4 is not even cited. Yoninah (talk) 18:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg There is a basic contradiction in the article. While it says that Mends was born in 1811 but not baptized until 1815, it also says that his elder brother William was born in 1812, a year after him. (Why does William have two sets of birth/death dates, one year only, and one full date?) I'm also troubled by three main sections in a row that are each only a short sentence; if there's that little to put into a section, then the article needs to be reorganized. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:45, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Good points, I have changed the script as you suggest. --Broichmore (talk) 15:51, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Broichmore, thanks for the changes you made; however, more is needed. You have two facts that seem contradictory, but haven't done a good job of reconciling them. First, it would be quite unusual if Mends was not baptised within a reasonably short period of his birth, so 1815 is almost certainly his birth year. However, that conflicts with his obituary, which says he was in his 60th year in 1871 when he died (which means they thought he was actually 59, since he was in his 60th year, upon completion of which he would have turned 60). Since we know his elder brother was born in 1812 and George was his next youngest brother (there may have been an intervening sister or two, since there were five Mends children as of 1817 according to the Bowen Stilton Mends source), it's clear that the obit was incorrect; it's okay to mention the discrepancy, but make sure the article notes that there is one now that the birth is given as circa 1815. With the date change comes another matter you need to take care of, which is the note that said that 13 or 14 year olds frequently went to see. Since Mends would have been 8 years and 9 months, mentioning 13 or 14 makes no sense, which is why I added a "clarification needed" tag.
However, you have not done anything to address the other issues noted by Yoninah above, and the fact that you have three one-sentence sections in a row. Are you planning on dealing with these issues? BlueMoonset (talk) 23:13, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Hmm. One source says he was in his 60th year, the other merely says he was "about 60", which means they had no idea. He was, if we are to go by the baptism date, 56. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Yoninah, I have done some work on the article, addressing the issues I raised and also combining the Artwork and Collections sections and giving them a bit more material, but nothing on the order of what you were requesting. (I don't think it would be appropriate to include details about every image in the gallery.) Please check to see whether the article passes muster now. (I did add a source for ALT4 in the gallery.) BlueMoonset (talk) 02:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Michela Gallagher

  • ... that neuroscientist Michela Gallagher identified the epilepsy drug levetiracetam as a candidate to reduce mild cognitive impairment in patients with Alzheimer's disease? source, MEDRS-compliant confirmation in Setti which is now cited : "Pharmaceuticals that attenuate this excess activation, such as the anti-epileptic drug levetiracetem [note this is a misspelling, em for am], can dose-dependently improve memory in aged rats (Koh, Haberman, Foti, McCown, & Gallagher, 2010) and reduce both hippocampal hyperactivity and memory impairments in patients with aMCI, as indicated by decreased BOLD activation (Bakker et al., 2012)." [Baker is also co-authored by Gallagher]. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 18:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
    • ALT1:... that neuroscientist Michela Gallagher found that hyperactivity in the hippocampus of rats caused them to have a worse memory? source Confirmed in McGarrity which is now cited : "Moreover, our findings support recent studies in humans and rodent models linking hippocampal overactivity and hyperexcitability to age-related memory deficits" citing (Koh, Haberman, Foti, McCown, & Gallagher, 2010; Bakker, Krauss, Albert, Speck, Jones, Stark, Yassa, Bassett, Shelton, Gallagher, 2012)

Created by Achaea (talk). Self-nominated at 21:42, 7 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough, nominated in time. QPQ done. Article is not negative. Hooks are both concise and interesting. The main hook needs more wikilinks, at least to the two diseases.
  • However, I think the sourcing needs work throughout eg newsletters and ScienceDaily summaries are not considered sufficiently reliable to make claims, particularly relating to medical topics, which must be supported by WP:MEDRS-compliant sources. Given the sourcing quality, there is a problem with making claims and talking about what her company is doing without promotion. Gallagher's research seems highly cited and should be treated in depth in much more reliable sources.
  • The source for the main hook does not seem to meet MEDRS requirements, which would be necessary to talk about a drug for use in humans. Alt1 is supported by a newsletter from Johns Hopkins, which is not sufficiently independent to make a claim.
  • Earwig[1] found some minor overlap with [2] and other sources, which could do with rephrasing.
  • Another problem I see is that the article is rather stub-like, and not fully wikified. It's not always easy to find year of birth and country of birth (if American, why go to UCL?) for living scientists who shun the limelight, but without those key biographical elements it feels less a biography than a career summary and company profile. You should link her Johns Hopkins home page [3], CV [4] and Google Scholar profile [5]. I did find a few tidbits from a brief web browse:
  • She served as Editor-in-Chief of Behavioral Neuroscience 1995–2001 (CV & [6]) -- the latter article has more on her research c. 2001
  • Per her CV, she's also an elected fellow of several societies, which should be included, especially if an independent source can be located.
  • She originally studied fine arts[7]
  • She was one of the first two women to graduate from Colgate University and was the first woman to get a PhD there.[8] (and above)
  • Past Chair of Johns Hopkins Department of Psychological and Brain Science & Vice Provost of Academic Affairs and Faculty for 4 yrs (as above)
Espresso Addict (talk) 10:32, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Espresso Addict: Thanks for the review, I'll try to address your points asap. I'm don't think WP:MEDRS is really applicable here, because it is about what science she does, rather than saying that the claims are true. I can add her own articles on the studies, but these would not count as secondary sources for the scientist, only for the topic (e.g. can use them in the mild cognitive impairment article). I'm happy to just go with the second ALT though, if you're worried about the first one. Also, all the overlap on Earwig are names of her position or of the prizes she's won, I really cannot rephrase those things, as they are just simply names.
I will have a look of adding in that information, obvious you are also welcome to. However, the article is long enough and a start article, so following the rules of DYK, that shouldn't be a reason to stop the DYK, right? Thanks! Achaea (talk) 11:27, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Espresso Addict: Have added in the information that I could find sources for and a few more medical sources. Achaea (talk) 18:14, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
Some very nice suggestions. While they are not necessary for DYK, I have added them because it makes for a very interesting article. Thanks to the original editor for starting this :-) Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 19:36, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg As the article has been expanded to over twice its original size at the time of review, a new review is needed to see where the article stands as regards the original issues and whether there are issues with any of the new material. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:30, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I might do a full review later, but from a glance, the article's sourcing has been cleared up and it reads better. Looks like quite a nice article. Kingsif (talk) 20:49, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review still needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:48, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg There are still some problems. I agree with the previous reviewer, and disagree with the nominator, that MEDRS is relevant here. Yes, the article is about what Gallagher has done, but the subject of her research is of enormous interest to a very large number of people. We need to be extremely careful to distinguish what Gallagher is claiming from what is widely accepted to be correct.
    • AGF previous review on newness, length, and QPQ
    • The ScienceDaily source is still in the article. This is supporting a sentence also supported by another source. Part of that sentence makes a claim about Gallagher's area of research; that does not require a MEDRS (but it does require a BLP compliant source). Part makes a claim about the relation between the hippocampus and Alzheimer's (MEDRS needed). Part makes a claim about mild cognitive impairment (MEDRS needed). It is entirely unclear which source supports which parts.
      • moved non-MEDRS source, added MEDRS compliant source
    • The Psychiatry Newsletter source is still in the article. It supports two claims. One is a claim about Gallagher's findings; a MEDRS is required agreeing that that is what she found (there is a difference between what Gallagher found, and what she claims she found). The second is a straight medical claim.
      • added MEDRS compliant source
    • Both hooks are cited to non-MEDRS. If there are MEDRS discussing Gallagher's research, these should be used instead. If she is currently out on a limb by herself, then sorry, we shouldn't be announcing her findings on the front page. It may be safer to use a hook that is less cutting edge, such as her learning indices, but the issue still would need fixing in the article.
    • On copyvio, the only thing Earwig is throwing up is the sentence "These measures have had a significant impact in the field", which is not too serious, but no reason not to fix it. SpinningSpark 12:03, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
      • rephrased
  • Nominator Espresso Addict Achaea has not edited on Wikipedia since April 4, so it seems unlikely that they will be addressing the issues Spinningspark has raised. Since Mary Mark Ockerbloom has done some work on the article already, I'm pinging her to see whether she was interested in working on these issues. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset:, Thanks for tagging me again; I meant to come back to this. I have made modifications as noted above. I've added MEDRS compliant sources but also left in the non-MEDRS sources because they are often easier for non-specialists to understand. If someone prefers to remove the non-MEDRS sources, I will accept that. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 18:12, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Achaea, I'm very glad to read that you're recovering; I hope that recovery accelerates soon. Mary Mark Ockerbloom, thanks for taking this on and helping out. Spinningspark, are we there yet, or is there more that needs to be done? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:50, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • The article seems to have been somewhat "cite bombed" since I last looked at it in response to my bullet #3 (on Psychiatry News). Are all of them really needed to sythesise the cited facts? Despite all those additions, the non-MEDRS source is still in the article. If the new sources support the claims, then it is not needed. If they don't, then there is still a problem. Both hooks now have MEDRS sources, but the qoutes provided do not support the claim that these were Gallagher's discoveries. In ALT0, for instance, the Letti source cites a paper co-authored by Gallagher (her name does not even come first in a long list of authors) but we need the source to say directly that Gallagher was responsible before that can be a DYK fact. SpinningSpark 18:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on March 24[edit]

Coronavirus recession

  • ... that due to the coronavirus recession, almost 80 countries have asked the IMF for help before May 2020? [9] Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Sa.vakilian (talk). Self-nominated at 11:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Date and length fine. However there are several problems with the article. It has several citation needed tags and tags on the header. There is also the big problem of the merger proposal which means @Sa.vakilian: it cannot proceed until all tags have been removed. Once the merge debate is ended and the citing is fixed (the citations are a bit messy too I'll add), then ping me and I'll have another look. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:32, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
  • The article's title has not been established by reliable sources. As of now, I could not see this article passing. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 23:40, 31 March 2020Seyyed(t-c) 04:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC) (UTC)
@The C of E: All of the tags exept one of them has been removed. Can you please check it again. Of course, we can find a better DYK.--Seyyed(t-c) 03:54, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
@Sa.vakilian: All tags need to be removed before this can proceed. I've also noticed after a recheck that the Coronavirus pandemic subsection under the Causes section is a complete copy and paste from 2019-20 Coronavirus pandemic's opening paragraph. That is not allowed under rule 1.b of DYK rules and will need to be reworded or deleted and also casts suspicion on the rest of the article. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 05:29, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
I have not checked all of it but I think most of it is not copy from the other articles.Seyyed(t-c) 15:10, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
You wrote it, how do you not know if you copied anything? It cannot include any copied work from other articles. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 16:02, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
@The C of E: I have written some part of it and I ask other participants to answer you here. Seyyed(t-c) 04:18, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@Keepcalmandchill:@Capewearer: Hi, as major contributors in coronavirus recession, please participate in this discussion and help us to have DYK on the main page.Seyyed(t-c) 04:23, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

@user:Keepcalmandchill and @user:Capewearer Hi, as major contributors in coronavirus recession, please participate in this discussion and help us to have DYK on the main page.Seyyed(t-c) 08:07, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

I'm aware of the nomination. Please don't keep pinging me about it. Capewearer (talk) 08:14, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg While the merge proposal is ongoing, the nomination is temporarily on hold. If the article survives intact, then a new review will be needed: the nominator's only significant edit to the article was in creating a 2715 prose character article, which has since grown to 38951 prose characters. There doesn't seem to have been overlap between the articles in the initially created article—the Causes section was a later addition, so any direct copying within Wikipedia was after and beyond the minimum 1500 prose character creation. If there were copied sections, they ought to have been mentioned on the article talk page (I didn't see any mentions in the edit summaries), but running Duplication Detector, there aren't very many exact strings of words left between the two articles after two months of editing. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:50, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 2[edit]

Zoltán Peskó

Zoltán Peskó in 2006
Zoltán Peskó in 2006
  • Reviewed: to come

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 21:05, 3 April 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Red XN - TBD
Overall: Symbol question.svg The picture doesn't have a great exposure, but it meets the technical requirements. I am not sure that the hook would interest a general audience however, most people don't know what La Scala is or why it's noteworthy to promote contemporary opera there. buidhe 01:46, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

The readers who don't know that La Scala is one of few best-known opera houses in the world, but tremendously traditional (and mostly Italian), will not care about the biography of this man. Can we please attract those who do, + those who at least know what Bluebeard refers to? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia for general readers, not just for classical music enthusiasts. The hook needs to be appealing even to those unfamiliar with the subject, and right now I agree with Buidhe that the current hook does not do that. Having the attitude of "please accept this hook because it is written specifically for a niche audience" goes against the spirit of DYK, which really requires the opposite (meaning that the hook needs to be interesting to more people, not to less). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:07, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Repeating: Bluebeard should appeal to a large audience, and then even two of those, it's even quirky. Imagine the person was your grandfather. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:37, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
So far, we presented just his name, and almost 10k people were interested. Here, we had the chance to even reach those who may have missed it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:40, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Gerda, I hate to keep breaking this to you, but I think you are overestimating how well-known these operas you mention are among general audiences. Most people could probably only name a handful of operas if any at all, and I don't think Bluebird is one of those typical examples that would come to mind. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:45, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
I am sorry to tell you (again?) that you completely misunderstood me, because I didn't mean the operas, but the bloody character. - I can also clearly tell you that I will not take much more of this kind of not wanting to accept the greatest achievements of a subject, only to please our public's ignorance and sensationalism. I can work for ITN 100% of my time, and still have too little. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:15, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
N=1, but I've never heard of Bluebeard before now. Your articles are great, but in my opinion, DYK has a specific function and is not necessarily suitable for all new articles that are created. buidhe 13:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
So you have not heard of Bluebeard, someone else may not have heard of Faust, someone else not of Romeo and Juliette, Undine, Macbeth, ... and why can't we teach the audience that cultural things exist, and if they are not interested, so what? Instead of this discussion, I could have created a stub article. How long did we discuss Jessye Norman, and in the end the stats were due just to her smile? I get tired of DYK, did you know. In the old days, we ran 4 sets a day, and had no time for such discussions. If a hook is not for a reader, OMG, there are so many others. Sorry for getting wordy, just explaining that I understand that the normal answer to DYK should be "no" and not "yes": - present what is not yet known. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:48, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Might a hook be made of Peskó conducting the three Stravinsky works at La Scala for the composer's centenary in 1982, with stage direction by actor Peter Ustinov? Both Stravinsky and Ustinov are names that are more easily recognizable than Togni. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:02, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
    Good idea, thank you. I duplicated the ref. My idea was not Togni, but I was sure that the bloody Bluebeard story was well-known and attractive. Learning. In a way I'd prefer the Hungarian work to Stavinsky, but I think I said before that I'm tired of arguing. Bartók alone would be possible but seems not sufficiently "contemporary". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
  • I didn't realize I was supposed to write out the hook! Here's basically what I wrote above, only in hook form:
Pinging Gerda Arendt to make sure this is okay, and buidhe to review it. I checked the information against the La Scala source (via Google translation), which confirms the information. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:39, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the offer. I'd drop that "all" because I understand it's three short works one night, usually staged by the same person. Needless to say, I'd prefer to mention the substantial Hungarian work to three unnamed rarities. - I tried "attraction by mentioning a prominent director" in another hook, but that failed, with a reviewer ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
I changed my mind when looking closer at the "operas". They all have short names, are not really operas, and are too little known, so they could actually be named, which would also reduce readers' disappointment (they might expect the big names), and would be a little hidden tribut to Dmitri Smirnov, who wrote one of the articles (Renard):
ALT2: ... that Zoltán Peskó (pictured) conducted stage works by Stravinsky at La Scala for the composer's centenary in 1982, The Flood, Renard and Mavra, directed by Peter Ustinov? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:32, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, Gerda, but ALT2 is too close to saying "A was in X, Y, and Z" - this isn't the kind of thing that gets a hook. ALT1 is a little interesting to me, but I think perhaps the original idea could be revisited? I think the original hook was missing out saying what to Gerda is probably obvious, but isn't to most, and is what makes it hooky: that Zoltán Peskó promoted contemporary opera at La Scala, a notably traditional performance hall. You could propose a hook including that bit of information, provided it gets cited somewhere in the article. Kingsif (talk) 23:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
ALT2 is written as BlueMoonset suggested. You can accept it (or the original), or we call for a different reviewer. Dmitri Smirnov will be pictured DYK later today, and a little tribute, mentioning his Wikipedia work, would be what I'd prefer. DYK should be about the things people don't know yet, imho, and the greatest opera house + a composer who caused a scandal in 1913 + a famous (not usually for opera) director be hooky enough, not just A B C facts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Actually, Gerda Arendt, I deliberately omitted the opera titles when I wrote ALT1 because I felt they were a distraction, an unnecessary clause, that stopped the hook in its tracks. I'm not at all worried about readers being disappointed if they get to the article and discover that these aren't Stravinsky's "big names" because they will have read most of the article by then, doubtless with interest, and the hook will have succeeded in getting them there. I included "actor" for Ustinov to both help people place him, but also because if people didn't know/remember him, there is the potential curiosity about a regular actor directing opera. The hidden tribute is so well hidden that it shouldn't be a consideration, especially not when it lessens the hook interest. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:21, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
I didn't strike ALT1, seeing all that. The tribute is more open right now, pictured today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:25, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Another reviewer's opinion needed on the remaining proposed hooks and whether they are adequately interesting, so this review can proceed. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:33, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
    I'll do a review, soon. starship.paint (talk) 06:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
    We do a beauty contest. All hooks hava La Scala, for many The opera house, where he did something unusual: contemporary, not Verdi and Puccini. All hooks try to establish that by an example (or more). The original is built on his home country, Hungarian commposer's great and rather well-known opera with the bloody title (once you know Bluebeard). ALT1 is built on people rather knowing Stravinsky and Ustinov, and ALT2 plays with it, saying that once we have these attractions, we have the chance to mention three works with really short titles which would never been mentioned on the Main page otherwise. I believe that people will either know Ustinov and be attracted, or be told that he is an actor (among many things which can not be also mentioned) will not attract them any further. The conductor's article has not much to do with Ustinov doing something unusua, but with him conducting rarely played "operas". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:47, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Right, as is customary, I'll review the entire article, and update the issues below. Still ongoing and I'll ping when I'm done. starship.paint (talk) 03:49, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Can you get a source on the bold part He graduated from the Liszt Ferenc Academy of Music in 1962, having studied with Goffredo Petrassi and Franco Ferrara. [11] mentions Ferrara but doesn't say when or where.
    I just found an Italian source for the two people, but not location - seems more likely in Italy than Budapest. We have feast days today and tomorrow, - he'll have to wait for more - patience please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:32, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
    Symbol question.svg @Gerda Arendt: - I've fully reviewed the article, take your time, I'll wait. starship.paint (talk) 04:40, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Peskó first conducted at La Scala in Milan in 1970: Dallapiccola's Ulisse and Prokofiev's L'angelo di fuoco, directed by Antonello Madau-Diaz. He conducted the first performance in Milan of Mozart's La finta giardiniera at Piccola Scala, directed by Filippo Crivelli. There he promoted original programming including contemporary stage works such as operas composers of the Second Viennese School, Kurt Weill with Milva singing, and music by Aldo Clementi, Azio Corghi and Franco Donatoni, among others. In 1974, he conducted the Italian premiere of Schoenberg's Kol Nidre. - is this really sourced to [12]?
    No, oops, sorry. Scala of course. --GA
  • Source for the year of conversation? A 1972 conversation of Peskó and Pierre Boulez about "Musical Aspects in Today's Musical Theatre" was published in 1978 in the journal Tempo
    Sigh, saw it somewhere but where? this says "first published 1973". - And then I found something, added. --GA
  • coupled with Camillo Togni's Blaubart, staged by Maria Francesca Siciliani - does the source say Blaubart? [13]
    The source says "doppio Barbablù", will check. The article (not by me) was possibly at least partly translated from German. --GA
    I checked the composer's English article, which says Blaubart without a source. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:12, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Starship.paint, Camillo Togni: Blaubart in: Italian Opera Since 1945- here is a detailed source on that work, which is based on a poem of the same name by Trakl. It could be added, but isn't relevant for the conductor, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:34, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Giorgio Battistelli's Prova d’Orchestra [14] source said Orchesterprobe. [15] Is it the same?
    Similar, German Orchesterprobe is Italian Prova d’Orchestra, and the performance was in Düsseldorf, Germany. --GA
  • He served as chief conductor of the Orquestra Sinfónica Portuguesa [pt], the orchestra of the Teatro Nacional de São Carlos in Lisbon, from 2001 to 2004 - I don't think the source [16] said the bold part.
    I added another ref. See also the pt article on the orchestra. --GA
  • Among the highlights of this role was the theatre's performance of Tchaikovsky's rarely performed opera The Enchantress with the Mariinsky Ballet - the source says ... in a co-production with the Maryinsky Theater (Kirov), directed by David Pountney and with Maryinsky singers in the leading roles - are classical ballet dancers also singers? I'm surprised if they are.
    You need singers for the opera, and possibly also a ballet, - many operas have dance scenes. Let's ask Amakuru who added that. --GA
  • When did Pesko leave Carlos? [17] says 2004 but [18] says 2005.
    I don't really care enough to make a footnote that sources disagree. Opera goes by seasons, 2004/05. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Image is okay.
  • I'd approve ALT2 but could you use "Teatro alla Scala" instead of "La Scala"?
  • NOTE, I placed a question mark in front of the review comment to make it apparent to others that a review has been completed and in progress. Flibirigit (talk) 14:56, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
@Flibirigit: - thank you! :) I forgot about that, my bad. starship.paint (talk) 00:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Starship.paint, I don't understand why the preferred name in the Wikipedia article for the opera house, "La Scala", should be changed to the far less well-known "Teatro alla Scala". We want people to have touchstones so they're more likely to click on a hook; using the official name rather than the common one seems yet another unnecessary detail to make the hook less interesting (which, in my opinion, ALT2 already is as compared to ALT1). BlueMoonset (talk) 15:36, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
    @BlueMoonset: - okay, got your point. Struck that. starship.paint (talk) 00:14, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm not sure if a consensus has been reached regarding the hook, or if it's appropriate for me to make wording suggestions (I'm new to DYK), but I think ALT1 is more interesting than ALT2. I also think the original hook could be made more "hook-y" by rewording to give more context and less detail:
Could we say "highly traditional" or even "conservative" of La Scala and have that be appropriate NPOV? (Genuinely not sure, I had never heard of La Scala.) I slightly prefer my ALT3 to ALT1 since I feel it explains more why the information might be interesting, but as I said I also think ALT1 works. ~ oulfis 🌸(talk) 02:06, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the offers, but I see two problems. 1) The "traditional" aspect is not part of the conductor's article (nor should it be), - I believe it's kind of implied in "promoted contemporary". 2) Bartók's work is well known (and so is he, no given name needed), but by now already almost a classic, - the other is much more "contemporary". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:50, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 5[edit]

Was mein Gott will, das g'scheh allzeit

Portrait of Albert by Lucas Cranach
Portrait of Albert by Lucas Cranach
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: The often stands for a chorale cantata, the St Matthew Passion, and other cantatas ...

Converted from a redirect by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC).

Thank you for the offer, but next time, please don't "reword", but word an ALT, as I have now done. We'll see what reviewers say. I'd expect a chronological sequence when two things are combined by "and", and this is opposite, the tune from the 16th centura, the use in cantatas in the 18th. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:17, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Madagascan hoopoe. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:09, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that the tune for the hymn "Was mein Gott will, das g'scheh allzeit" by Albert, Duke of Prussia, (pictured), originated from a secular French song, and has been used by numerous composers including Bach? Source: several
I found both A0 and A1 confusing. I believe your hook appears to be attempting to emphasize the reuse of this tune not only by Albert, but also by Bach. This appears to be a truly fascinating example of how artists borrow from one another. However, the belabored writing of A0 and A1 makes this fascination difficult to grasp. The article and image certainly pass requirements, and once a hook is settled on, this should be good to go. CawheeTalk 18:31, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
I am sorry that it is confusing. Albert created the text, so why "reuse". The sort of quirky thing is that the melody for a Christian hymn by Albert comes from a secular song, and that then Bach liked it enough to set it several times. I feel like explaining a joke ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:11, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, striking ALT2. The others may be confusing, but this is misleading. It reads as if Bach and "numerous composers" (as if anybody cared about those) used the tune (only) while it's the text by Albert that they used, with the tune. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:18, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed—there are no specifics in earlier comments—including the hooks. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:31, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I feel like the hooks are all too much of a mouthful - trying to cram too many disparate facts into one sentance - and suffering for it. How about:
ALT2: ... that the tune for the German religious hymn "Was mein Gott will, das g'scheh allzeit" by Albert, Duke of Prussia (pictured) first appeared in a French secular song?
ALT2a: ... that the tune for the German religious hymn "Was mein Gott will, das g'scheh allzeit" first appeared in a French secular song?
The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the offers, but sorry, I feel that's too little. (We don't need" religious", it seems to be the first meaning of hymn, and has been used on DYK often.) If only one fact, then that is attributed to a politician, and used by Bach, - why the English Wikipedia may care about this German hymn. A melody based on something secular is rather common for hymns (O Haupt voll Blut und Wunden), - not specific to this one. It's added to make the main fact a bit quirky ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:41, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 7[edit]

Crusader states

  • Outremer, or the Crusader states, were feudal Christian states created by a series of religious wars initiated, supported and sometimes directed by the Latin Church in the Middle Ages. These states in the Levant were the first examples of "Europe overseas" and became known to historians by the French version of the phrase, Outremer.

Improved to Good Article status by Norfolkbigfish (talk). Self-nominated at 16:08, 17 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Might need you help on this one CAPTAIN MEDUSA, it is my first DYK. I though Outremer, or the Crusader states, were feudal Christian states created by a series of religious wars initiated, supported and sometimes directed by the Latin Church in the Middle Ages. These states in the Levant were the first examples of "Europe overseas" and became known to historians by the French version of the phrase, Outremer. was a hook for this. Apologies for my ignorance Norfolkbigfish (talk) 13:38, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Norfolkbigfish, That is kind of like a sentence to me. I need a short hook, that is catchy, about the article. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 13:43, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
  • How about The Outremer created by the First Crusade in the Levant was the first example of an "Europe Overseas"? Norfolkbigfish (talk) 13:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that the Outremer created by the First Crusade in the Levant was the first example of an "Europe overseas"?
I have formated the hook for you. Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 14:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Just a remark. I requested the reassessment of the article. The proposed hook is quite problematic: it presents a scholarly PoV as a fact and it ignores the experience of Greek colonies and the Hellenistic states in Antiquity. Borsoka (talk) 04:05, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Given the sheer number of templates in the article, a review would not be useful at this time. Once the issues are settled such that templates are no longer needed, we can call for a reviewer at that time provided the article has not been delisted at GAR. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:48, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 9[edit]

Eight Hungarian Folksongs

Béla Bartók in 1903
Béla Bartók in 1903

Created by Ron Oliver (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 15:17, 16 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen in online sources. The hook, though, is boring. The part about Bartók's desire to educate the public was so evident that the melody in his folksongs was doubled by the right hand of the pianist would make more interesting hook material, as long as it's cited. Image is public domain but looks like it was photographed off a television set. QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 04:53, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Ron Oliver? - I don't find it boring that did this - collecing folk music which he is known for - already at a young age, - perhaps that could come out better? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:46, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Bartók is primarily known for two things apart from his outstanding musical output: Hungarian folk music and education. Now, you are most likely never going to find a reference that implies that Bartók doubled the voice because he had a strong desire to educate, but it was surely easier for him to teach and promote songs by showing (potentially) undereducated singers what the melodies are expected to sound like. The next sentence is ref'd and, in my view, it's equally as interesting. Ron Oliver (talk) 18:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I agree that the next sentence could make a good hook:
Alternatively, folksongs and DYK hooks are both meant to interest to the general public. Perhaps something based on their textual content, such as
However, this kind of information is not currently in the article. FourViolas (talk) 21:52, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, does ALT1 work for you? (I'm not sure we want to get into ALT2, since it's reliant on a thesis.) BlueMoonset (talk) 04:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 11[edit]

Impact of the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic on domestic violence

Created by DiplomatTesterMan (talk), Leaky.Solar (talk) and Nederlandse Leeuw (talk). Nominated by DiplomatTesterMan (talk) at 13:33, 15 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Courtesy ping. Adding Nederlandse Leeuw to DYKmake template for expansion of article. DTM (talk) 09:23, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
  • QPQ done. DTM (talk) 06:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg A big topic, but it looks like it's handled well. New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. There is some close paraphrasing from the sources:
  • Source: Christophe Castaner, the French Interior Minister, said there had been a 36% increase in police intervention for cases of domestic violence in Paris after the lockdown measures were enacted.
  • Article: Christophe Castaner on 26 March 2020 announced that said there had been a 36 percent increase in police intervention for domestic violence cases in Paris after the lockdown measures were enacted.
  • Source: In Australia, the government said that Google has registered the most searches for domestic violence help in the past five years during the outbreak
  • Article: The Australian government said that Google has registered the most searches for domestic violence help in the past five years during the outbreak.
  • Source: The total complaints from women rose from 116 in the first week of March (March 2- 8), to 257 in the final week of March (March 23-April 1).
  • Article: total complaints from women rose from 116 in the first week of March to 257 in the final week.
  • Regarding the hooks, ALT0 is ok, but the "ceasefire" part is hookier. I don't understand why you're writing "after the pandemic"; isn't it still going on? I think the hook should attribute the "ceasefire" quote to the United Nations, but ALT2 does not seem to be worded correctly.
  • QPQ done. I'm not sure about the copyright status of the two videos. Yoninah (talk) 19:02, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Three close-paraphrasing issues sorted.(i hope) A minor rewrite for two of them, and a removal for the third. Both videos are tagged on Youtube - 'Creative Commons Attribution license (reuse allowed)'. Rephrasing ALT2. "During" and not "after". Yes, a preference for ALT1 and ALT2 over ALT0. DTM (talk) 09:57, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Gisele Bündchen

Gisele Bündchen in 2006
Gisele Bündchen in 2006
  • Reviewed: 60 Hudson Street
  • Comment: I would’ve liked the hook to be about her 37 international Vogue covers in one year (2000), but unfortunately the best source I could find isn’t that good for it. There is a Vogue source about 3 American covers in that year (still an incredible feat which no model has done since) but that doesn’t exactly grab the magnitude of the accomplishments. Other alts can be made too.

Improved to Good Article status by Trillfendi (talk). Self-nominated at 20:21, 11 April 2020 (UTC).


QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg I have verified all three hooks but since I tweaked ALT0 for accuracy, I will need the nominator Trillfendi's approval of the change before proceeding. Gatoclass (talk) 21:51, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Pinging Trillfendi again as I failed to add a new datestamp to the last comment so the ping probably didn't work. Gatoclass (talk) 07:38, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

@Gatoclass: If someone is audited by the IRS, they would have received an official letter for it, it isn’t speculative. My hook was worded in a way that was neutral toward both parties. ⌚️ (talk) 05:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Actually Trillfendi, the reason I copyedited your hook in the first place was because it had the same ambiguity - but now that you mention it, I agree that my initial copyedit didn't altogether remove it, so I've given it another tweak, please take a look and tell me what you think. Gatoclass (talk) 09:12, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
When referring to reports, the word to use is alleged, allegedly, etc. ⌚️ (talk) 19:07, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Trillfendi, I have struck ALT0 because, as I noted previously, it is ambiguous. When you say "Gisele Bündchen alleges that she was audited by the Internal Revenue Service" it can be misread to mean that she alleges she was audited, rather than the intended meaning, which is that she alleges the audit was done because of her placing on a high earners list. And I'm restoring the hook as I tweaked it as ALT3, because it eliminates the ambiguity. If you don't like that hook, we can run with ALT1 or ALT2 instead, but IMO ALT0 is not viable. Gatoclass (talk) 09:12, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 12[edit]

O sacrum convivium!

Messiaen in 1937
Messiaen in 1937

Created by Ron Oliver (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:43, 19 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced. There is close paraphrasing in the article which needs to be put in quotes or rewritten in your own words:
  • Source: unlike nearly all of his contemporaries, held an unshakable Catholic faith throughout his entire life
  • Article: unlike many contemporaries, held an unshakeable faith throughout his entire life
  • It seems that other phrases are pulled directly from the sources; I think you should go over them one by one and put in quotes any unusual wording, as I did with superhuman love. The cite for this sentence: Even though it is one of the composer's best-known works, he declared later that it was not representative of his compositional style. (footnote 4) does not verify anything.
  • All the book sources need page numbers. The hook facts about him being 29 and writing the composition in Latin need inline cites. The image is very clear and public domain. QPQ done. Yoninah (talk) 05:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I rephrased it in more chronological order. Ron? - The text - like all Catholic liturgical music is in Latin. Would we need a cite that Gloria is in Latin? Same for his age, calculating from date of birth, which source do we expect? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:19, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Ron, you may have to move or duplicate refs for the different order of facts, commission first. - Trimming the hook: drop the age as we are not sure about the date anyway, drop Latin, because if a reader doesn't see/know that it's Latin, s/he may not be interested in the whole thing. 1937 makes for a better match of pic and hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:02, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that O sacrum convivium!, an offertory motet for four-part choir probably completed by Olivier Messiaen (pictured) in 1937, remained his only work for the Catholic liturgy?
  • I really wouldn't know how to rephrase it, but Messiaen was Catholic and a large portion of his works deals with religious topics. Including that would make for a much more interesting hook, in my opinion. Ron Oliver (talk) 18:35, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Unfortunately, close paraphrasing still remains in the article; indeed, the first printing of 1000 copies was not exhausted until the mid-1950s is a direct copy from the source. Yoninah requested that more work be done in this area, and still more is clearly needed. There are other issues in general: the block quote in Composition makes no sense where it is: I started reading it thinking it was contemporaneous with O sacrum convivium, only it turned out to be written 27 years later. I'd suggest a better lead-in, and perhaps summarizing the letter rather than reprinting the whole thing, perhaps with a representative quote or two. While I've made some textual changes for clarity, I think more are needed; "religious intentions", for example, is quite vague. Pinging Gerda Arendt and Ron Oliver. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I apologize for the delay. I have changed the direct quote from the source. I believe the block quote is important and should not be summarized. Messiaen offered an explanation for why he never chose to write works that were intended for liturgy, which is exactly what is brought up in the previous sentence. It was indeed written 27 years later, which is stated on the name of the source below the quote itself. I cannot see why that is a problem. Gerda Arendt? Ron Oliver (talk) 07:25, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 13[edit]

Hotel Milan

  • ... that the 2018 film Hotel Milan is based on the "Anti-Romeo Squads" formed in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh? Source: "I don't expect any protests against film: 'Hotel Milan' director". Outlook. Press Trust of India. 21 August 2018. Retrieved 13 April 2020.

5x expanded by Skr15081997 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:39, 14 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New enough, long enough. QPQ done and image properly licensed. Not seeing anything with the article content, other than the synopsis section is unsourced. I also don't like ALT1 as I don't consider "Censor Board" to be neutral.--Launchballer 21:48, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
  • The prose could also use a copyedit for English grammar. Yoninah (talk) 22:04, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Anti-defection law in India

Created by Santoshdts (talk). Self-nominated at 11:18, 14 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Santoshdts, thank you for creating the article. Before I go on for a more complete review, please do some minor copyediting of the article. There are many locations where an extra space is needed after the citation and before the start of a new sentence.
  • Please put "Gehlot, N S. (September 1991)" into the bibliography and then use sfn templates, harvard references, etc so that there is limited repetition of the same citation in the references.
  • Please try and make the tone less subjective at certain places such as "There rose a need to this malice of political defections."
DTM (talk) 11:59, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Santoshdts, it seems you commented on the transcluded section of this DYK nom on the articles talk page. Did you mean to comment here? Either way it has been noted. Thank you for making the changes.
Here is the review - Article is new enough, long enough, sourced, neutral, and seems to be free of copyright problems. QPQ not applicable. However you need to do a copyedit of the article. Example - this sentence "whereas the Y B. Chavan committee suggested..." should start with a capital W. Also please do not capitalise words unnecessarily such as in "Autocratic party system". Please also keep a note of consistency - "Committee" in one line and "committee" in another. Also the formatting of the bold text under the header "The Law". I suggest placing it in Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Requests.
An issue with the sourcing of the hook. The first hook is sourced to an offline source... Malhotra 2005. Can you confirm you have access to this or is there an online version saying the same thing? Could you try finding some less... technical hooks? In the second hook you have written "can be disqualified"... now this is a common phrase, but what does "disqualified" actually mean for an international audience? Maybe a small note would help? (If better hooks can't be found nevermind.) Symbol possible vote.svg DTM (talk) 07:47, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
DiplomatTesterMan Thank you for reply. As this is my first DYK nomination, I was unable to find the appropriate page to reply on your views. Hence, ended up replying on the article talk page and diverging from the norm. Thank you for reviewing the article and bring out errors in the page. I shall give it another concentrated review and clear out more errors. About the book you mentioned, I've linked it to Google book it is a live link and yes, I do have a copy the book in ebook format. It's freely available at Digital Library of Parliament. As far is Alt1, I can rephrase it as: "...be disqualified as a member of legislative house for the remaining term of office", Regards. Santoshdts (talk) 08:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks for all the changes. New reviewer requested. DTM (talk) 10:37, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 15[edit]

2020 coronavirus pandemic in Delhi

Created by Dey subrata (talk). Self-nominated at 15:28, 20 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed. Note that this is actually a 5x expansion dating from April 17 (three days prior to nomination) rather than an original article creation, which occurred back in March. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:59, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 17[edit]

Justice delayed is justice denied

5x expanded by 7&6=thirteen (talk) and Wl219 (talk). Nominated by 7&6=thirteen (☎) 00:18, 23 April 2020 (UTC)


QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Everything seems to be in good order   User:Dunkleosteus77 |push to talk  00:27, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook is a little flat. Could you be more specific about its legal origins, or perhaps suggest something else? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 21:09, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

Cyprus in the Eurovision Song Contest 2020

Created by Grk1011 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:05, 19 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Note: I've now bolded "Running" as it has become a GA, so if the first hook is selected, it would be a dual. Grk1011 (talk) 16:36, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg @Grk1011: Both articles recently created / promoted to GA, well referenced, with no close paraphrasing from the English language sources. The original (double) hook is interesting and the singer's ancestry is cited in the Cyprus article to a Greek language source. Just waiting on two QPQ reviews and this will be good to go. 97198 (talk) 07:45, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @97198 and Grk1011: If this is still needing QPQs, you can have two from my reviews. Nice hook and articles, by the way. Kingsif (talk) 23:26, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oh my.. It's been almost decade since my last nomination. I had no idea what QPQ meant above! I just assumed it meant this was waiting on one more person to take a look. I will try to review some tomorrow to satisfy the requirement. Grk1011 (talk) 02:48, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

T. F. Secor

Created by Gatoclass (talk). Self-nominated at 13:39, 17 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Just a quick comment: I was wondering if anything else could be said about Secor as it's not unique for wealthy individuals to leave $1 million fortunes, even engineers. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:08, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Well, $1 million was a lot of money to accumulate in 1901 - even Cornelius Vanderbilt, who is usually placed as the second or third wealthiest American in history, had a fortune of only $105 million - about $2.5 billion in today's money, which wouldn't even get him close to being on the world's richest 500 list today. Also, if you take Secor's fortune as a share of total national GDP at the time, which is how Vanderbilt's wealth is often calculated for comparative purposes, $1 million in 1901 would be the equivalent of $953,000,000 today. Gatoclass (talk) 18:19, 19 April 2020 (UTC)
Even if that were the case, that probably means the hook won't be as hooky to a reader unless they were aware of the context of the times. Perhaps a different hook fact could be discussed here instead? Looking at the article again, there do appear to be some information about his life that isn't reliant on the fortune. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:04, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Like what, Narutolovehinata5? Gatoclass (talk) 06:32, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps something about his company's shipbuilding activities, such as the boats and engines they built before and during the Civil War? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 06:54, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg New article is 6,749 characters long and nominated on the same day as creation. No copyvios detected and no close paraphrasing issues spotted. Article is well-sourced. Hook is 191 characters long (under 200 character max.) and is interesting. Refs 4, 5, 6, and 8 (all verifying the hook) are reliable sources (AGF ref 8 from NYT which is behind paywall). QPQ done. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 13:12, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Thank you for the review Bloom, but after Narutolovehinata5's comments, I decided that I should come up with a better hook, which will entail writing a companion article to make this a double nomination, which I'm hoping to get done in the next few days. My apologies for not adding a note to this effect earlier - but I'm sure your review will still count as a valid QPQ if you need one regardless. Gatoclass (talk) 15:02, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
  • No worries, Gatoclass. Feel free to ping me when you've got the second article and I'll be more than happy to review that one too. —Bloom6132 (talk) 15:35, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Time flies Narutolovehinata5 - faster than ever it seems lately.
I haven't been able to get back to this because, firstly, I recently bit off more than I could chew by starting 10 GAN reviews plus two GANs of my own in a futile attempt to stay in the Wikicup, and am now obliged to complete those reviews as a priority, and secondly, because real life unexpectedly became very busy a week or two ago and will remain so at least until the end of the month. So I've had to put this one on the backburner for a bit. I still expect to get back to it in the not-too-distant future, but am not quite ready to do so yet. Apologies for any inconvenience. Gatoclass (talk) 13:57, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: Just leave a message or inform the reviewers once you're ready to work on this again. If things get too difficult and continuing the nomination within a reasonable amount of time becomes unfeasible, let people know here too. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:32, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 18[edit]

2016 Heart of Dallas Bowl

5x expanded by PCN02WPS (talk). Self-nominated at 20:05, 24 April 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - Winsipedia does not seem to be a reliable source; ESPN source given in hook is not used in the article.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Needs some work before it can be used. SounderBruce 04:02, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

This is just a quick question, but I was wondering if a different hook fact could be used. I admittedly know little about bowl games or US college sports rivalries, but I'm pretty sure that one team beating another team in the post-season or equivalents after losing to them in the regular season is quite routine in American sports, so I don't really see how the hook fact is anything special. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:33, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
In college football, it's a bit unusual to have two meetings between teams in separate conferences, let alone an independent school (with no conference affiliation). The article makes it pretty clear: they teams had only met 4 times during a 20-year period before 2016. SounderBruce 03:25, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
The concern I have is that people unfamiliar with college football (which is probably not the norm in America but may be the norm in the rest of the world) may not be aware of this fact, meaning the hook as written has a relatively narrow audience. The context isn't clear in the hook, and that may need to be addressed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:28, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5 and SounderBruce: The interesting bit of the hook was that they'd already met once that season, which happens rarely in college football, as SounderBruce mentioned above. If either of you have another hook I'd be perfectly fine with changing it up to make it more understandable for a wider audience. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 15:08, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
I took a look at the article and tried thinking up of something, but my admittedly limited knowledge of college football meant I couldn't come up with anything. Perhaps another editor who specializes in the topic could come up with something better. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 05:06, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
As a college football guy, I can probably throw out a suggested hook. After reading the article, North Texas (and technically Army, but that's a story that's going to be hard to explain in just a DYK hook) being invited to a bowl game despite having a losing record might be interesting enough for non-sports fans (it's not the only instance in history, but it's still rare and those unfamiliar with college football will obviously not know). Maybe something like ALT1 below would suffice? Zappa⚡Matic 04:35, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
I would support the above proposed ALT1. I will work on improving citations and expanding the "game summary" section with some prose in the coming days. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:02, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 sounds good, but for the benefit of others, what does "technically Army" and "too complicated to explain in a hook" mean? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
It's mostly just a lighthearted remark on my part, but here's the explanation for anyone unfamiliar with college football and is curious: Army was 6–5 when they were invited to the bowl game, but two of their wins came against NCAA Division I Football Championship Subdivision teams, and the second should not count toward's one's bowl eligibility. To become bowl eligible, a team must have at least six victories (though as stated in the article, the lack of available bowl slots led to them getting in anyway). My "losing record" is a bit inaccurate as Army would be at .500 rather than below, but the point still stands in that they technically were not bowl eligible when they were extended the invitation. Zappa⚡Matic 01:58, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Just checking in after these updates. The sourcing issues brought up in the original review still have not been resolved. The ALT1 hook is good as long as the losing record is mentioned in the prose (as it is currently just a figure, not mentioned directly) and linked to Winning percentage. This nomination has been open for over a month now, and I'd like to see some progress and let it enter the queues soon. SounderBruce 06:07, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
@SounderBruce: I will begin on those changes today. Thank you so much for your patience and your willingness to work with me to improve both the article and the DYK. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 12:02, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Philip Treacy

Treacy wearing one of his own creations
Treacy wearing one of his own creations

Improved to Good Article status by Britishfinance (talk). Self-nominated at 10:22, 18 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article was promoted to Good Article status in the past 24 hours, so it is new enough. Being a Good Article, it is more than long enough and i'm not seeing any neutrality issues or citation problems. I think i'd suggest the original hook to be the one used, as that is more to the punch. The alt is a little too specific and long. The original hook is interesting and is cited inline properly. The QPQ has been done and the image suggested is of proper use and looks fine. Everything looks good to go. SilverserenC 23:31, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Returned from prep. Image has been nominated for deletion. I don't think the first hook works without an image. The alt hook is better but needs to be shortened. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 09:57, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks Yoninah, and I left a note for Cwmhiraeth on the article talk page to undo the promotion as I think the nomination for image deletion is correct and looks like it was a "Flickr washing" account (I thought it was a studio sharing their work). I think the hook can still work but without the (pictured) part? Of, course, it would be a pity not to have a visual image given his trade, and this could work (quote is directly from the article and inline cited, and picture is alongside)? Britishfinance (talk) 10:07, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
ALT2: ... that Irish milliner Philip Treacy said "There was a moment where I thought I would find myself with my head on a spike outside the Tower of London", from the controversy of Princess Beatrice of York's "pretzel hat" (pictured)?
  • Britishfinance, I've had to strike ALT2 because, at 215 prose characters, it is well above the DYK absolute maximum of 200. In addition, the photo of the pretzel hat in the article is not a good photo and the hat is difficult to see clearly, so if the hat is ultimately used for the hook it shouldn't be a pictured one. A possible (189 prose character) variant of ALT2:
  • ALT2a: ... that Irish milliner Philip Treacy said of his controversial "pretzel hat" for Princess Beatrice of York, "I thought I would find myself with my head on a spike outside the Tower of London"?
  • BlueMoonset, that is much better. Agree that the picture is not great but it would be a shame not to have a picture of the hat - I found this on another WP article on hats which is the hat in question?
    Princess Beatrice Fascinator.jpg
    . Britishfinance (talk) 17:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Britishfinance, the problem with the drawing is that we don't know the provenance of it (I doubt it's Treacy's drawing) and it's the wrong color (pink; not the color of a pretzel at all). It's probably a random person's illustration of the hat, but without Princess Beatrice in it I just don't think it's an appropriate image to run on the main page. (There are nice photos of the displayed hat itself, sans Beatrice, on the Met's website, but they're copyright and therefore unusable.) It also doesn't fit in the article, which has the clearly more appropriate image of the Princess wearing the hat, and DYK rules require that the image be in the article to be useable in the nomination. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:56, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • BlueMoonset, that is a good point. I have tried to look elsewhere for a better useable photo of Princess Beatrice wearing the hat but with no luck. I guess we should just drop the photo and proceed with ALT2a? thanks. Britishfinance (talk) 10:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Pinging Yoninah to check ALT2a and give her thoughts on whether this is the way to proceed. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:01, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 19[edit]

Autogenous pressurization

Created/expanded by Seddon (talk). Self-nominated at 00:22, 20 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New (created 19th), just about long enough (1791 characters). Referenced and in scope, but it would be good if it had more links in the text. Passes copyvio check. QPQ not needed (this is the user's second DYK). ALT1 looks best to me, the original one would also be OK if the repetition of 'Space Shuttle' is removed. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:36, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Seddon I have restored the thread so I could see what Mike Peel was talking about. In future, please do not edit existing hooks, but add new hooks as alts at the end of the thread. It's up to the reviewer to strike hooks. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 17:17, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The article has a clarification tag and also needs some more links to scientific terms. Yoninah (talk) 17:21, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: - Added more articles links, fixed clarification and fixed citation. Seddon talk 13:04, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Seddon: Thank you. But I don't see the hook fact about the Space Shuttle external fuel tank in the article? Yoninah (talk) 00:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

Galcerán Bridge

Created by Mike Peel (talk). Self-nominated at 19:01, 19 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Long enough, new enough, adequately referenced, hook is referenced, no copyvios found, QPQ done. Rlendog (talk) 21:29, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook isn't going to be so interesting to non-Spaniards. I would like to know if you have any other details to add to the article besides its construction specifics; this would help create a more interesting hook. Unfortunately, the only non-construction detail right now is the death of a worker. Yoninah (talk) 19:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I've added what I can to the article already. Why wouldn't it be of interest to non-Spaniards? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:56, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Because it sounds like a news item in a Spanish paper. If you don't know who this person or place is, why would you click on it? Yoninah (talk) 20:17, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
  • The mention of Miguel Primo de Rivera does not make it clear that this is the Spanish head of government (Prime Minister) visiting the Canary Islands, a distant part of Spain, rather than on the Spanish mainland. I'm a bit astonished that while Tenerife (one of the islands) is mentioned by name, there is no other indication that the bridge is in the Canary Islands. One thing that struck me as of possible interest was that the bridge was controversial with the populace because they (incorrectly) thought the bridge construction (or constructed bridge?) would somehow kill (shut down?) the newly built football stadium. Unfortunately, the source doesn't seem to have much in the way of useful detail, if Google translate is reasonably accurate, but perhaps enough to for hook? (If so, then that part of the text would need updating to support such a hook.) BlueMoonset (talk) 03:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @BlueMoonset and Yoninah: Canary Islands was mentioned in the infobox when I proposed the DYK, but it was subsequently removed by another editor; I've added it to the lead instead. I couldn't make complete sense of the affect the bridge was supposed to have on the football stadium, hence why I just mentioned a controversy related to it. Perhaps the Primo de Rivera angle is the way to go - see the article on him, possibly 'promoting infrastructure' in particular. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 06:51, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Returned from prep; hook is still under discussion. A new hook is requested. Yoninah (talk) 10:58, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 20[edit]

Niya (mythology)

  • ... that Niya was the Polish god of the underworld? Source: Aleksander Gieysztor (2006). "So both Długosz's information and his interpretation of Nia by analogy with Pluto deserve trust."
    • ALT1:... that Polish god Niya had temple in Gniezno? Source: Paweł Szczepanik (2018) "Therefore, the largest temple of the Polans would be a place where the souls of their dead would rest, creating a >> kind of reservoir of souls awaiting reincarnation through the fire of the family-territorial community <<, and the Lech Hill itself would create the original central place centered around the cult of Niya"

Created by Sławobóg (talk). Self-nominated at 14:33, 22 April 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - i like the first hook, but it needs to be "that Niya was the Polish god of the underworld?" with 2x "the" added

QPQ: Red XN - not required
Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg hook needs adjusting, qpq needs clarifying, article needs some work Mujinga (talk) 00:00, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

    • Looking again at the article as a whole it could do with a copyedit generally. The "Russian information" section is not referenced and there's a citation needed tag in "Etymology". In the "Sources" section everything is cited to Kolankiewicz, Leszek (1999) which I do not have access to, but the quotes themselves are attributed to different people in the text. Mujinga (talk) 08:45, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
      • also seems like a first DYK nomination so QPQ is not required (after five noms, the nominator is required to review another DYK submission) Mujinga (talk) 08:56, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
        • Fixed hook, added reference for Trubachyov and Russian information. Added few more references in sources section but not for all though. Kolankiewicz book is free to read here. Also added two more sources I missed before. Sławobóg (talk) 20:48, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Sławobóg thanks for the additions, the Russian information still has an uncited paragraph, which also includes the claim "probably copied" which reads to me like original research. I said "article needs some work" not realising this was your first article created on EN, so to expand on that, for example the "sources" section needs work, quote frame is over used and it really is little more than a collection of quotes right now, some or all of these can be paraphrased. If you need help you could make a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors. Mujinga (talk) 18:58, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Deep Adaptation

  • that the climate science paper Deep Adaptation inspired thousands of people to join a movement? Source: "It has now been downloaded over half a million times, translated into a dozen languages, and sparked a global movement with thousands of followers - called Deep Adaptation, because Bendell calls on people to adapt their lifestyle to cope with the harsh conditions in his vision of the future." [20]
    • ALT1:that the climate communications paper Deep Adaptation has been downloaded over 600,000 times? "More than 600,000 people have downloaded Bendell’s paper, called Deep Adaptation: A Map for Navigating our Climate Tragedy." [21]
    • ALT2:that climate activists warn that the "doomist framing" of the paper Deep Adaptation, which argues that civilizational collapse is already inevitable, threatens to "[lead] us down the same very path of inaction" as the worst climate deniers? "What's more, Mann claims, Bendell's 'doomist framing' is 'disabling' and will 'lead us down the very same path of inaction as outright climate change denial. Fossil fuel interests love this framing.'"[22]
    • ALT3:that Jem Bendell's paper Deep Adaptation argues that because climate change-induced collapse is inevitable, society needs to plan for a 'post-collapse' future? "By the near term, he means less than 10 years from now. By social collapse, he is speaking of unpredictable and interrelated breakdowns, in affluent as well as poor countries....How do we “adapt” to that? By accepting that the world as we’ve known it is ending, he says, then beginning to envision whatever new one can be built on the ruins."[23]
    • ALT4:that Jem Bendell's popular paper Deep Adaptation argues that nothing—from a carbon tax to geoengineering—can prevent what he sees as an impending climate apocalypse. "Even if we ceased emissions tomorrow, Bendell argues, the latest climate science shows that “we are now in a climate emergency, which will increasingly disrupt our way of life ... a societal collapse is now inevitable within the lifetimes of readers of this paper.”[24] "Bendell acknowledges that some researchers have suggested developing geoengineering as an emergency backup plan for cooling down the planet in case global warming runs faster than current projections suggest. But he dismisses it as a potential way to ameliorate climate change because he thinks that its unpredictability will prevent its deployment."[25]
  • Reviewed: My third nomination for DYK.
  • Comment: Moved to mainspace on April 20 after a short user draft.

Created by Jlevi (talk). Self-nominated at 21:56, 21 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Both hooks sound rather vague: the first doesn't really say more about the movement or how it "inspired thousands", and the second doesn't really say much more. Could something more be said about the paper? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:17, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
  • As most readers will not be familiar with the subject I think it would be enough of a hook just to say something basic about it: for example "Deep Adaptation is A Map for Navigating Climate Tragedy" or "Deep Adaptation will soon be needed after human civilisation breaks down" Chidgk1 (talk) 10:59, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I think ALT4 is the strongest. Chidgk1 (talk) 17:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that new hooks have been proposed. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Rights of nature

  • ... that there is a school of legal thought that promotes the recognition of rights of nature, based on the utilitarian argument that humans' survival depends on a thriving nature, and the ethical argument that nature itself has as much right to exist and prosper as humans do?
    • ALT1:... that the recognition of rights of nature is already part of the law in 12 countries around the world?
    • ALT2:... that there is a school of legal thought that aims to recognize the rights of nature, following the same ethical principles that underpin human rights?

Converted from a redirect by LindaSheehan (talk). Nominated by Al83tito (talk) at 02:51, 21 April 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol voting keep.svg Just FYI, you usually shouldn't have more than four citations in a row. Either move the citations closer to the content they support, or drop the weakest ones. Also, it would be appreciated if you quoted the source which supports "twelve countries", there are several citations in the article. buidhe 15:39, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  • ALT1 has unsuitable editorializing ("already"). A MOS-compliant version would be...

Hi there, I have made several suggested edits, and addressed other several matters in my message to reviewer Buidhe's talk page. Thank you. Al83tito (talk) 17:39, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The nom is approved but we need a new reviewer for ALT1b. buidhe 19:00, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Edward J. O'Donnell (military)

O'Donnell as a Captain in the 1950’s
O'Donnell as a Captain in the 1950’s

Source: [26] Created by Halsey1237 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:11, 20 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Halsey1237, though I see you have made a number of additions and added some sourcing to the article, you have yet to address the "citation needed" templates. It is important that you do so if you wish this DYK nomination to pass. Please reply here with your plans to deal with this issue. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 21[edit]

2016 Sleaford and North Hykeham by-election

  • Reviewed: Exempt.

Improved to Good Article status by N Oneemuss (talk). Self-nominated at 11:34, 21 April 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Red XN - no
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Nice article! However, none of the suggested hooks are particularly interesting or unusual. buidhe 06:34, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 22[edit]

2012 Bojangles' Southern 500

Improved to Good Article status by MWright96 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:14, 22 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg - Good to go. Very well written article. Chris (talk) 20:11, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg A more complete review is needed as not all of the DYK criteria have been checked. Simply saying "good to go" without additional context is insufficient for reviewing purposes. Courtesy ping @Miller17CU94:. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:44, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg - Per request and review. The article was created less than a week ago, contains 51k characters. The sourcing is adequate, neutral, and avoids plagarism. The hook is cited, interesting, and short enough to meet the required criteria. Chris (talk) 22:56, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook is more narrative than hook. Could you write this in a hookier way, or provide a different angle? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 12:41, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @MWright96: I restored the thread. How is that any different? The only part that's interesting is the 200th win. Meanwhile, there are too many numbers in the hook. Yoninah (talk) 16:37, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: After review, I am unable to come up with an alternative hook. MWright96 (talk) 14:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you. Since I added some more details, we need another editor to review and approve ALT2. Pinging original reviewer @Miller17CU94:. Yoninah (talk) 15:22, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Art Tomassetti

Tomassetti by F-35 Lightning II in 2002
Tomassetti by F-35 Lightning II in 2002

Created by Skeet Shooter (talk). Self-nominated at 13:58, 25 April 2020 (UTC).


Policy compliance:

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol possible vote.svg Article is somewhat "fanboy" i.e promotional. Earwig flagged one passage. Alt1 is best hook. --evrik (talk) 01:35, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Thank you for reviewing the nom, evrik. Could you let me know which areas you felt were promotional, and I will try to fix/reword. For the earwig issue, were you referring to matches with Tomassetti’s USMC biography (i.e. wording of “firsts” and list of aircraft flown)? The biography is USMC public domain which I acknowledged in the attribution section, but I’ll try to reword if this is the area of concern. Also, the picture currently in the article is a cropped version of the original when I submitted the nom. After I submitted, another editor thought his/her cropped image looked better than the original, so I left it as is. Thanks again. Skeet Shooter (talk) 02:46, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • It appears this article is not ready for DYK. I withdraw the nomination. Thanks. Skeet Shooter (talk) 13:16, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Skeet Shooter: Before you withdraw it, list the article. They may be able to get to it in a week. --evrik (talk) 14:56, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 23[edit]

Tomáš Cihlář

Symbol question.svg @Swmmng: New and long enough, Earwig detects no copyvios. I'd like to see more specifics and better sourcing about Cihlář's involvement in developing remdesivir; these are generally large team efforts and simply saying he developed it himself isn't sufficient detail. Was he a laboratory scientist, a research group head, or was it in his executive position at Gilead? John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 23:39, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ a b Anon., "Remdesivir Cleared For Use On Covid-19 Patients in Four Czech Hospitals", Prague Morning, April 29, 2020.
  2. ^ a b Saiver, F., "Je Remdesivir lékem na covid-19? O objevu týmu Tomáše Cihláře má být jasno už do konce dubna", Forbes, April 8, 2020.

Articles created/expanded on April 24[edit]

Alvin Clark (schooner)

The Alvin Clark in 1978
The Alvin Clark in 1978

Created/expanded by Lettler (talk). Self-nominated at 16:14, 24 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article length and age (just passed GA today) are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. I have a slight preference for ALT1. --TheSandDoctor Talk 23:31, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment I agree, ALT1 works better. Lettler (talk) 00:50, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this. I don't understand why ALT1 works for you; it is completely out of context. Would you consider combining the two hooks in some way, like:
  • ALT2: ... that after lying on the seafloor for nearly 100 years, the schooner Alvin Clark (pictured) was noted as "the finest preserved historic vessel in the United States"? Yoninah (talk) 01:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I found ALT1 more interesting than alt0. However, do agree that alt2 is better. --TheSandDoctor Talk 03:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: I agree as well. Thank you for the suggestion; it's my first DYK nomination. Lettlerhello 03:23, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Teri Mitti

  • ... that Manoj Muntashir originally wrote Teri Mitti as a tribute to soldiers and later rewrote it for those working to keep people safe during the coronavirus pandemic in India? "March 2019...Song Teri Mitti from the film Kesari...lyrics by Muntashir" [33], tribute to every soldier [34]. April 2020..."the tribute to doctors and nurses. In this context we requested Manoj to write new lines.[35]. For those "fighting to keep us safe" [36]

Created by Whispyhistory (talk), Sulfurboy (talk), and Nizil Shah (talk). Nominated by Whispyhistory (talk) at 17:28, 1 May 2020 (UTC).

I think the first hook is the better of the two, but would benefit from clarifying that it was re-released as a reprise. @Whispyhistory: how do you like the below?
The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @The Squirrel Conspiracy:...Muntashir wrote both, but I don't know if correct to say he released it. ALT0a can be tweaked a bit. Thanks. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:30, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Whispyhistory changed "released" to "wrote". The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks @The Squirrel Conspiracy:... looks good to me. Whispyhistory (talk) 13:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 25[edit]

Abu Said Faraj

  • ... that Abu Said Faraj started a rebellion to to enthrone his son Ismail I, but Ismail imprisoned his father before he eventually became Sultan? Source: "After this incident he [Abu Said Faraj] was imprisoned in a fortress, and his son then ordered him to be held in the castle of Cártama. When Ismail ascended the throne in 1314 he had his father transferred to the fortress of Salobreña, the royal family prison of the Nasrids, where he died in 720/1320" [https://www.jstor.org/stable/25183293 Fernández-Puertas p. 5)

5x expanded by HaEr48 (talk). Self-nominated at 13:54, 30 April 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on April 26[edit]

Meine engen Grenzen

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:35, 3 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Article is new enough, long enough, and original. It's written neutrally and informatively and carefully referenced - good encyclopedic work. I'm using Google translate to read the (German language) sources and the article is a definitely a fair representation of what it in those sources. My only query about the references is ref 6 in the current version. There's a title and publisher for this, but no further information. I suspect it's a paper publication, but could we have more information as to what it is? QPQ done. I have two issues with the hook. 1) "be transformed to a broader perspective" I didn't find where in the sources (specifically ref 2) legitimises this form of words, though I admit this could be the fault of Google translate and of my terrible German. The poem is clearly about recognising one's narrow limitations, as the title implies and the sources repeatedly state, so this query is just about that latter part of the sentence. 2) "singing ... means requesting ..." feels like a really odd construction to me. I see why it's chosen: the subject is both a poem and a hymn and spelling this out would be clunky. If it's important to have Heurich in the hook, "...that the hymn "Meine engen Grenzen" by Eugen Eckert and Winfried Heurich requests that one's..." would be a more natural construction. So I'd like to see another attempt at the hook for this well-written and definitely DYK-able article. Symbol question.svg MartinPoulter (talk) 10:40, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
    Thank you for looking, and will return with more time, and a qpq. Just for the wording, it's obviously unclear because what you word seems not to be the same. When I sing "Meine engen Grenzen" (My narrow limit(ation)s I bring before you) followed by "wandle sie" (transform them), then I - the singer request that my limits be transformed. The singer requests, very personally so. Help with wording welcome, anybody. The article explains that the author wrote it when reaching his limits when he tried to prevent the suicide of a girl whose minister he was. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Plav-Gusinje massacres (1912-13)

  • ... that in the course of the Plav-Gusinje massacres up to more than 1,800 Albanians and Bosniaks were killed and 12,000 were forced to convert to Christian Orthodoxy? Milosević (2013) Bosniak organisations claim that more than 1,800 Muslims from Plav and the nearby municipality of Gusinje were killed and more than 12,000 of them forcibly converted to Christianity during the 1912-13 Balkan wars.
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Fa alk (talk) and Maleschreiber (talk). Nominated by Maleschreiber (talk) at 23:48, 30 April 2020 (UTC).

Reviewed: Organ transplantation in Tamil Nadu


NOTE TO REVIEWER: This article is the subject of a deletion discussion currently in progress, see: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plav-Gusinje massacres (1912-13). Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 16:56, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

The deletion discussion has ended, so the nomination can continue.--Maleschreiber (talk) 07:30, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Comment - The claim about the number of religious conversion and killed muslims is exxegerated and controversial as explained here - link. --Antidiskriminator (talk) 14:43, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
    The 12,000 figure is from the official report which I added to the article after I placed the nomination for DYK.--Maleschreiber (talk) 15:19, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
No. Its what "Bosniak organisations claim". That claim is disputed. No RS independent from the subject supports it. The attempt to present disputed claim as a fact and bring it to Wikipedia frontpage is not constructive.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:11, 14 May 2020 (UTC)


Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - Hook is presenting a partisan claim as fact
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol delete vote.svg Recommend withdrawal of this DYK. buidhe 15:17, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

@Buidhe: I obviously haven't copied anything, you should check the dates. If you click that link, you'll see that the website has copied the article from wikipedia. As for the hook, I wrote up to more than 1,800 in order to reflect this part of the article: A contemporary report by Djordje Šekularac, head Orthodox priest of the military administration noted 12,000 conversions.[13] Bosniak organizations maintain that more than 1,800 were killed in the course of the massacres and 12,000 were forced to convert.[14] Mark Krasniqi of the Academy of Sciences of Kosovo has placed the total number of Albanians killed during the massacres at 8,000.[15] Nobody has taken any part of the bibliography in the article to RSN and the AfD discussion is over - it didn't conclude that "there is no RS", if it did we wouldn't be discussing about it on DYKN, because it would have been deleted. If you think that the hook is partial I could go with a different hook from Pacariz (2013):
  • ALT1:... that in 2013 the President of Montenegro addressed the Plav-Gusinje massacres as crimes which represent "the dark side of the Montenegrin history"? Pacariz(2013): President Filip Vujanović joined the cerenomy, where he stated the crimes performed in Plav and Gusinje are the dark side of the Montenegrin history --Maleschreiber (talk) 15:41, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
    • ALT1 would be OK, if the article were sourced well enough to pass muster. The article was a "no consensus" close with multiple editors arguing that the sources weren't strong enough to support the content. Peacemaker67 I hate to bother you, but what do you think about the article sourcing? Is it good enough for the main page? buidhe 02:01, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
      • The hook seems fine except it should refer to them as "crimes" not a "massacre" as that is the word the president used, but I'm afraid the Balkan Wars as a whole are outside my area of expertise. Some of the sources appear partisan or dubious, and I am struggling to find exact details of these killings in reliable publications in English, although there are several that talk about them in a vague way. The deletion discussion isn't terribly useful because nearly all the editors who participated are from one or the other side. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:30, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
        • I think this could be run with Peacemaker's suggested hook, but first please get rid of the scribd and Matica crnogorska-published sources in the article. Matica crnogorska is a cultural not a scholarly organization and isn't a reliable source for a sensitive topic. buidhe 13:36, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
          • I have changed the hook. I haven't used scribd as a source, scribd was just the only repository available online. It's also on Gbooks, but without even a snippet function [37]. Likewise, I haven't used Matica Crnogorska as a source. The source is the journal Almanah. I'm using the same journal from CEEOL (a website which hosts academic journals from the Balkans) too. This particular article is paywalled on CEEOL, but has been uploaded on Matica Crnogorska. It helps the reader to be able to have access to bibliography. I can change the links to gbooks and a paywalled version on CEEOL respectively, but how does that help readers? --Maleschreiber (talk) 16:12, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
            • Gbooks also says "publisher not identified", what makes this book reliable? CEEOL is a non-selective repository; it publishes grey literature and other unreliable sources. Is Almanah a peer-reviewed academic journal? If so why isn't it published by the Macedonian academy of sciences? buidhe 16:23, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
              • It is regularly used as bibliography by historians like Marenglen Verli, member of the Academy of Sciences of Albania in his work about Plav/Plav-Gusinje/Gucia (it has full bibliographical details - I used the same). Rexhep Dedushaj is a very well-respected historian from Gusinje and the book has been republished multiple times.
              • Why should it be? It's published in Montenegro, not in Macedonia. Honestly, in the Balkans something getting published by X Academy of Sciences is not a reason to consider a publication RS. But I don't think that we should be having the same discussion of an AfD that ended. It ended as no consensus, but that doesn't mean we should be repeating the same arguments about notability all over again. I changed the hook to one which refers to the President of Montenegro acknowledging the events.--Maleschreiber (talk) 16:56, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I cannot pass this nomination unless I am convinced that all the sources cited in the article are reliable, per the DYK criteria. What's the story about the book? Is it self published? What are the credentials of the author? As for the journal, you didn't answer my question. For example, in Slovakia journals of Slovak Academy of Sciences are highly reliable, those published by Matica slovenská are definitely not (because the former is academic and peer reviewed, the latter is a cultural association.) Again, why is the Matica a reliable publisher? buidhe 17:04, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
It's not - it's on its 4th edition by a publishing house called "New York" (it's called NYork because most people from Gusinje/Plav live nowadays in the states of N.Y. and Michigan) which in the 1990s published a series of books about the region by various authors. Historians have used it as a secondary source in their own works and it has become sort of "textbook material" because it's basically the only book written by a local historian and it has many details that would have been otherwise lost. Gusinje is a municipality of 4,000 people in a country of ~650,000. Bibliography in/from Montenegro or by people from Montenegro written in the native languages is not going to have the same coverage as that from wealthier regions in Europe. I've reviewed a DYK of yours and just the bibliography about that single book surpasses the available bibliography of about 1/3 of Montenegro. It's a sad story, but it's the reality of having limited resources in very poor and depopulated country.
Matica is not the publisher, I just found a full upload of the article of the Almanah journal on Matican Crnogorksa. They have an online library with many publications about the history of Montenegro. BRILL in its Yearbook of Muslims in Europe regularly uses Almanah in its bibliography.--Maleschreiber (talk) 17:26, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Sarkinovic appears to be a lawyer with no training in history [38]
Marijan Premovic is an archaologist, not an expert on recent history. His university isn't even ranked by Times Higher Education.
So that raises the question as to whether the journal has strong editorial controls or if it is more of an amateur history outlet (nothing wrong with that, but it makes it much less useful as a source). If I found the correct Worldcat item, it is published by Jevrejske zajednice Crne Gore = Jewish communities of Montenegro? In your link, it appears to be used to support statistics on mosques. I could believe that it's reliable for that, but we need much stronger sourcing for this subject.
I appreciate your efforts to improve coverage of an understudied area, but at the moment I am just not seeing that the article meets the requirements. buidhe 17:59, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
@Buidhe: Rexhep Dedushaj was a secondary school history teacher and political activist, not an academic, as I explained during this article's first deletion discussion. See [39] Also, there is another deletion discussion underway, so this DYK will have to wait. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 18:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 18:11, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

I think that you're adding other criteria than those described in WP:RS. THE ranking or the specific field in humanities are not criteria to decide RS. Nobody has ever approved or rejected a paper in any peer-reviewed journal based on whether the undergraduate degree of the author fits that particular subfield of humanities. If the author of a book, works as a school teacher says nothing about his reliability as a source.--Maleschreiber (talk) 18:18, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Yes, the fact does not say that he is reliable, which is what needs to be demonstrated. buidhe 18:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • On hold until second AfD is resolved. buidhe 18:21, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 27[edit]

Nebuta Museum Wa Rasse

The museum in May 2011
The museum in May 2011
Reviewed: Gusinje Municipality

Created by Mccunicano (talk). Self-nominated at 06:11, 27 April 2020 (UTC).

  • The hook as written could probably use some clarification. What does "experienced year-round" mean, does it mean the museum is open throughout the year? That's not really unusual for a museum as a lot of them don't close for long periods. In addition, the current wording makes it sound a bit like a promotion for the museum, instead of perhaps saying more about how it's an "emulation". Maybe a hook about that "emulation" would work better instead? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:28, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: Hi, thanks for doing this review. Hm, maybe a different hook could be "... that at the Nebuta Museum Wa Rasse the Aomori Nebuta Matsuri, one of the 100 Soundscapes of Japan, can be experienced any time of year instead of only in early August when the festival is held?" Mccunicano☕️ 10:45, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
That still sounds either niche or something you'd find in a travel guide. Either the hook wording needs to be rephrased (it sounds a bit weird right now with the current clause construction), or perhaps a different direction is needed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:28, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
maybe "... that at the Nebuta Museum Wa Rasse visitors can experience a brief performance of the dance and music of the Aomori Nebuta Matsuri, one of the 100 Soundscapes of Japan?" Mccunicano☕️ 12:50, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
The wording still sounds like one you'd find at a travel guide. I'm sure there's probably a better way to word that hook fact but right now it's not working out. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:53, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
The only thing I can think of that would make it sound less like a travel guide at this point is leaving out the visitors part. Perhaps you have a hook in mind? Mccunicano☕️ 02:24, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps a hook about the museum being built as part of a development created to mitigate the effects of a new Shinkansen line would work? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 04:00, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the new hook. However, it probably needs some mention of the Shinkansen line there since ALT1 can still be a bit too vague. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:16, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 Completed How does the revised hook look? Mccunicano☕️ 02:43, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 is almost ready, the hook just need to be reworded a bit since it could be misinterpreted to mean that it was the museum or the development that was bypassed, not Aomori. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Okay, how's that? Mccunicano☕️ 11:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Sounds good. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:06, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Great, so would you say this is ready for DYK then? Mccunicano☕️ 00:19, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
I'll do the full review by tomorrow but so far the article itself looks good and the hook facts are referenced. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:18, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Apologies for the late response, I suddenly got caught up in several real-life matters yesterday. I'll try to finish by tomorrow, but if not, perhaps another editor would be willing to take a look at this too. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:03, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
No worries! Mccunicano☕️ 12:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
I was doing a partial review earlier (didn't find any close paraphrasing) and noted that a QPQ has been done, but while the hook fact for ALT1 is cited (assuming good faith since the source is in Japanese), the actual sentence mentioning the hook fact doesn't have the relevant footnote, which doesn't appear until later in the paragraph. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:31, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
The source has been appended to that sentence now. Mccunicano☕️ 14:00, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg I think we should be good to go now. All other concerns have been addressed and the article meets DYK requirements. The image is okay and suitable, but it might be too small or unclear for use in a picture hook. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg@Narutolovehinata5: do you really understand what ALT1 is talking about? I came by to promote this and I've never heard of half the things this hook is mentioning, and I don't care either. What is a preemptive revitalization project? Is it the same as a revitalization project? Could the hook call it the city of Aomori, and could a descriptive term be used to identify what Tōhoku Shinkansen is? Yoninah (talk) 15:49, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: From what I understand, the hook means the museum was built as part of a larger redevelopment project, which aimed to mitigate the economic effects of Aomori being bypassed by the Shinkansen. Personally I thought the Shinkansen was well-known enough that it could be mentioned without context, though adding "train line" probably won't hurt. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 15:56, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
@Yoninah: Added an ALT2 per your comment. Mccunicano☕️ 00:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
A Nebuta float at the museum

*Symbol question.svg OK, I'm back. Thank you for the alt, but frankly, all the alts seem to be written for someone who knows what they're talking about. The unfamiliar Japanese words don't speak to me at all. I notice that you have an .ogv image in the article and wonder if you'd like to incorporate it into a more user-friendly hook, like:

@Yoninah: Brilliant, I definitely prefer a hook that pertains to the exhibits. Mccunicano☕️ 00:16, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Checked the source used for the new hook with Google Translate and there doesn't seem to be any mention of a room being kept dark there? The only part that seemed to show up in the translation was about how the floats are related to the festival. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:43, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: English reference added from one of the museum's designers that specifically mentions the lighting. Mccunicano☕️ 14:10, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • As the source speaks about "dim lighting", I wrote that the room is "darkened" in the article and hook. Yoninah (talk) 15:48, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for that. Mccunicano☕️ 01:27, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Just for clarification, the quote in question is As they wind their way through galleries and educational displays, the lights dim and the recorded sounds of the festival—pounding drums, flutes, chants and cries—grow. Guests step out onto a shadowy platform, and are suddenly confronted by the Nebuta themselves. right? It doesn't see to explicitly mention that the darkening is to imitate the festival, only implied. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Along with the other Japanese source you used Google translate on there's enough to say that the focus of the room is to create a setting that immerses the viewer in a festival-like environment. Mccunicano☕️ 02:44, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Honestly I'm not so sure. I would normally assume good faith on the Japanese source but it doesn't even seem to mention anything about dark rooms. I'll ask for a second opinion from another editor if the sourcing is sufficient, but otherwise that's the only thing remaining before this can be approved. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:16, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Héctor D. Abruña

Created by AthalGolwen (talk). Self-nominated at 02:40, 28 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. No QPQ needed for nominator with less than 5 DYK credits. The hook, though, tells us nothing about his notability or accomplishments other than he was the "second". You have written quite a bit about him; could you suggest a different hook fact? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 15:36, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you, Yoninah, for your review and for encouraging me to come up with a better hook! I have suggested two new ones and am grateful about feedback for how to improve them. AthalGolwen (talk) 21:30, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @AthalGolwen: thank you for the alts. But a hook is just that – something that "hooks" the reader and makes him want to click on the article to read more. ALT1 is more like a story and tells me everything I need to know; forget about reading the article. ALT2 is okay but not exciting. Sometimes it just takes clever wording to make things "hooky". I'd like to look at this with a clear head tomorrow and suggest something. Best, Yoninah (talk) 21:34, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you again, @Yoninah: After lots of pondering, I have finally created an ALT3. What do you think? AthalGolwen (talk) 15:57, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • OK, I looked at the article more closely, added cites and fixed some language that did not exactly express what the source was saying. What do you think about this tweak to your ALT1:
  • ALT1a: ... that thanksdue to Héctor D. Abruña's outreach efforts, 15 out of 55 graduates of a Cornell University electrochemistry research group by 2018 were from Puerto Rico, like Abruña himself? Yoninah (talk) 20:12, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks. But since I added more information to the hook, someone else will have to approve it. Requesting reviewer for ALT1a. Yoninah (talk) 20:30, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
This is a comment and not a review, but is it acceptable to say "thanks to" in a hook? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:11, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Noted. Changed to due to. Yoninah (talk) 10:56, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

F. Scott Fitzgerald

  • Comment: I figure that this is a good time for this fact, considering the 1920s and the Jazz Age occurred a century ago.

Improved to Good Article status by HAL333 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:59, 27 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Could I also add this image? (File:F Scott Fitzgerald 1921.jpg) Sorry. ~ HAL333 16:05, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg There is currently some disagreement over at the GA review regarding the quality of the article as a GA so I would suggest that this nomination not be reviewed until that is resolved. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:58, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Ok, I'll try to resolve it. Thanks! ~ HAL333 15:53, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
Narutolovehinata5 The areas listed have been fixed. The discussion unfortunately spilled into ANI and nothing has come from it. Can we now proceed? ~ HAL333 00:03, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
I don't know, it might be a good idea for someone else to take a look at the article (I never intended to review this, I was only pointing out the discussion at the GAN page). But if the issues haven't been settled I wouldn't be confident in this being reviewed just yet. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:35, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 28[edit]

Planet of the Humans

5x expanded by various users. Nominated by RTG (talk) at 12:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is new enough (expanded) and not plagiarized, but I wonder if the hook (unsourced) is correct. This simple statement is not found in the article, and I worry that saying so in our wiki voice is unjustified WP:SYNTH. Also I am not seeing QPQ review from the nominator (seems required?).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:54, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
  • It's the whole basis of the documentary... That some measures to replace traditional energy with "clean" energy is done in a dirty way. I see no it's already been greatly expanded since I started it. It says now that the central theme of the doc is the use of "biofuel" being a synonym for "burning trees", but in fact it also criticising building and materials... questions like... how do you building thousands and thousands of tonnes of wind farm without burning a lot of coal and oil, and how many plants are built in conjunction with gas plants... I'm lagging behind a bit.. I'll see if I can source that properly, update, and do my QPQ over the weekend and I'll ping you then Piotrus, cheers. ~ R.T.G 03:36, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
  • It does actually say, "The film also claims that wind power and solar energy don't fare much better than biomass once all their inputs from fossil fuels are taken into account, and in some cases, pollute more"? Seems to be just a different wording to the hook above? ~ R.T.G 03:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I just saw the film. It's misleading at best to say that Michael Moore argues anything in the film. He executive produced it, but didn't write, direct, or appear in it. It would be more accurate to say something like "... Planet of the Humans, executive produced by Michael Moore, argues that new measures ..." MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 07:27, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Considering how controversial the film has been and how its science claims have been questioned, I would highly suggest that any hook that ends up being used or proposed takes this reception into account and that whatever hook is used adheres to guidelines like WP:FRINGE. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:56, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
  • How about instead of saying "...Michael Moore argues..." to just say ALT1 ... that a documentary produced by Michael Moore, Planet of the Humans, argues that new measures promoted to save the planet are actually endangering it? ~ R.T.G 14:44, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Note: I claimed to have started the article but I didn't. I started a different article about a documentary around the same time. Planet of the Humans has an article more than six months. It got expanded by various editors after Moore released it free to watch on Youtube a couple of weeks ago. ~ R.T.G 14:48, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Another comment: while I'm aware that a lot of coverage for the documentary mentions Moore's name due to his involvement, I'm thinking that theoretically him being mentioned in the hook is optional since it's fairly incidental and the subject is the film and its content, not Moore. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:19, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Moore is a big name in documentaries. He has won higher awards and had more success than any other documentarian. As a boss of the show, it is the hookiest thing to put his name on it. It may be worth adding "Jeff Gibbs" but it would not be worth removing "Michael Moore" in terms of maximising hits. ~ R.T.G 05:04, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
In other words, the goal is not information, but promotion. So no. --Calton | Talk 08:44, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Not sure what the rules are at DYK for FRINGE opinions, but the movie has been found so rife with mistakes that the hook above might give more credence than is due. I'm planning (RSI, might not happen) to bring some reputable fact-checks more to the front in the article, maybe we can use some of those instead for a hook? If we want a hook at all. Femke Nijsse (talk) 09:59, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Based on past experiences, hooks on articles about fringe topics have been allowed on DYK, provided that the hook itself doesn't make the fringe claim. For example, a hook that goes "that wongo juice is claimed to cure cancer?" would not be allowed, but something like "that alternative medicine producer ACME Corporation has been criticized for claiming that wongo juice can cure cancer?" or "that according to several studies, the popular alternative medicine wongo juice has no effect on the treatment of cancer?" may be allowed. Usually though these hooks going through would depend on the neutrality of the article itself, and there have been cases in the past where nominations were rejected because the articles failed to meet NPOV or the WP:FRINGE guideline. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:51, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
There seems currently no consensus about the neutrality of the article, with discussion still raging about how to describe the inaccuraries. Femke Nijsse (talk) 07:12, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
If that's the case, I would suggest putting the nomination on hold for now or even failing it, since article instability is considered a point against an article. Of course, that will depend on how the neutrality concerns will play out or if they can be resolved in a reasonable amount of time. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 07:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Article promotion is the specific goal of DYK. Yes it should be neutral. Moore is a key point of the facts about the article. If the hook says, "Michael Moore, who is never wrong..." without quoting that statement as a significant detail from the article, then there would be an undue bias. Saying "...produced by Michael Moore..." is about as neutral as it is possible to get without covering part of the information up. Covering up would be the same as acting out a bias... As for stability... the movie was recently released for free on Youtube. It is going to receive a stream of edits for a while. As the nominator, I haven't done a QPQ yet. I went about halfway through the list a couple of times and sadly I didn't find a review open that wasn't a more significant review than this one. Nominations often sit for months. Please be patient with it both in terms of the stability and the QPQ. In the meantime, I will take a look for the argument on the talkpage and see if I can help with the neutrality. ~ R.T.G 19:56, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg There appear to be concerns at the article talk page over the neutrality of the article, as well as article structuring and how to present the claims stated in the documentary; as such, I would recommend that the nomination is not approved until those are addressed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
  • RTG, this was nominated over four weeks ago, and you have still not provided a QPQ. That's simply too long a delay. If you want us to be patient, then a QPQ is a must. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:00, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Joanna Jordan (talent agent)

Created by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 09:20, 29 April 2020 (UTC).

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Red XN - Hook is not very interesting
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg buidhe 22:03, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Buidhe (talk · contribs), another hook could be:
Cunard (talk) 09:13, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

I don't think that works either as it doesn't explain why she is interesting or what she does that makes her respected. buidhe 20:18, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

KPS 9566

  • Comment: Article written by my friend; I suggested to her that it would be a fascinating DYK. Will do QPQ asap of course. EDIT: QPQ done on Nazi analogies.

5x expanded by HarJIT (talk). Nominated by Maplestrip (talk) at 17:57, 4 May 2020 (UTC).

  • @Maplestrip:, this is neither new nor was it a 5x expansion. What is the basis for the nomination? --evrik (talk) 00:40, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • It was a 5x expansion in prose between April 28 and May 4 (see here). Tables of data are not included in the 5x expansion calculation for DYK. The article went from ~4 paragraphs of prose to over 40 paragraphs of prose, now I'm counting them I suppose it's even a 10x expansion. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Confirming that it hit 5x expansion on May 1, according to DYKcheck. Kingsif (talk) 23:57, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Alt2 ... that the characters ☕, ☔, and ⚡ were originally proposed by North Korea, though not always with their final proposed meanings?
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Nominated at the time of its expansion. Long enough, sourced. Offering a new hook. --evrik (talk) 19:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
    I find this less snappy and eye-catching, but it's accurate and fine. I'm alright with this alt if you think the original hook is not acceptable, though I don't think the note "not always with their final proposed meanings" is necessary for the hook at all... ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 09:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 29[edit]

Marie Hassenpflug

Marie Hassenpflug
Marie Hassenpflug
  • ... that Marie Hassenpflug (pictured) was a source for the Brothers Grimm fairy tales Little Red Riding Hood, Sleeping Beauty, and Snow White? Source:(and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Mk170101 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:10, 29 April 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg No hook is provided. Forgotten? CeeGee 16:50, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg @CeeGee: I think the intended hook was "is most well known for being a source of Little Red Riding Hood, Sleeping Beauty, and Snow White" but they put it inside the source part for some reason. I'll leave them a talk page message to see if they can return to the nomination and address the hook issues. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 10:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
  • OK. I am waiting. CeeGee 18:29, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Hook was finally provided thanks to Cowlibob. Article is new, long enough and neutral. It is partly cited inline. The paragraphs #2 and #3 in the section "Life" are missing citation at thier end. I am not sure whether the "†"-sign for "died" in the first paragraph of the section "Life" is MOS compatible. No check for text similarity can be done by "Earwig's Copyvio Detector" since all online sources are in foreign language. I AGF.The hook is well-formatted and interesting. Its length is within limit. Its fact is cited inline. No QPQ was done. It seems that the nominator has less than five DYK-noms. I will approve after the a.m. issues are addressed. CeeGee 18:25, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
@CeeGee and Cowlibob: The nominator hasn't edited since the 5th, or days before the original review. If any issues are going to be addressed, it may have to be done without the nominator's input if they do not return soon. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Narutolovehinata5, this article is written in such poor English, and has plenty of other problems (in the citations, for instance): there is no way it should go on the front page in this condition. I'm surprised the reviewer didn't comment on this, or attempted to correct at least the obvious mistakes that I just tackled. Drmies (talk) 13:00, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

@CeeGee: Would you be fine if this article is taken to WP:GOCE? As the nominator is relatively new to Wikipedia and has no prior nominations, I think some leeway could be given in the time we can give to this. However, if the nominator doesn't return in a reasonable timeframe and the issues remain unaddressed, this may need to be failed. As the subject is German, perhaps Gerda Arendt might be able t help explain the use of "†" in the article? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:08, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
The symbol is short for day (or year) of death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:10, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
Deep sigh. I did some basic formatting. The highlight of the (machine?) translation was Schultheiß = school hotspot. (It's close to my so far favourite, teenager=tea rodent.) (Is she even notable?) Anyway, I couldn't leave the article in that state ;) Jmar67, could you perhaps polish a bit more? - The fairy tales in the hook need links. She and Grimms would have used German titles, though. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I see that some hands are trying to help out. I normally do not interfere in copyediting, I leave it to English-speaking Wikipedians. Now, I am waiting for the final stage to complete the review. CeeGee 16:45, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Gerda Arendt, I am not quite sure what to do. The "Wo Marie als Kind lebte" obviously verifies only one tiny little part, but I can't stick it in the right place (at Haus Lossow) since I don't know which of the two sources verifies what comes before--if only the German article had had proper footnotes. The biography isn't accessible via Google; I'm about to look at the other book that was cited. There is some information in various German editions of the Grimm tales, but only snippets, and we have two unverified paragraphs. Drmies (talk) 00:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I like the topic, but am simply to busy (an open FAC restructured, with a new source found but not in place yet, + a feast day) to even look today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:07, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on April 30[edit]

Beyond Live

  • ... that in April 2020, SuperM played live to virtual crowd of over 75,000 paid real-time viewers from 109 countries, in the kick-off concert of the world's first high-tech online-dedicated concert series Beyond LIVE?
ALT 1: Over 75,000 viewers from 109 countries bought tickets for the first live concert of the the innovative full-sized online-dedicated concert series launched in April 2020?
ALT 2: The first full-sized online-dedicated concert series supported by advanced technology including augmented reality tech and three-dimensional backdrops graphics was launched in April 2020?

Sources: "With over 75,000 paid viewers checking out the event from 109 countries, the inaugural Beyond Live concert streaming event earned upwards of $2 million USD from virtual ticketing..." from Forbes
"Their live stream marks the first show in SM Entertainment's ground-breaking broadcast concert series Beyond LIVE, which features a wide array of camera shots, 3D backdrop graphics, augmented reality that's never been experimented on online concerts...' from Billboard

"While a number of artists have been streaming performances from home or re-broadcasting old concert footage, “Beyond LIVE” is the first attempt to replicate a new, full-sized arena show online." from Rolling Stone
"On Sunday afternoon, K-pop boy band SuperM thrilled fans in 109 countries with a spectacular live online performance, paving the way for a future of paid concerts...marked a new era of live concerts with state-of-the-art AR technology and real-time communication amid the coronavirus outbreak" from ABC News

Created by PeaceNT (talk). Self-nominated at 17:23, 30 April 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 1[edit]

How To: Absurd Scientific Advice for Common Real-World Problems

  • Reviewed: Still have to do

Created by Blohod (talk). Self-nominated at 13:33, 13 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough. New enough. Inline citations are there but some of the cited sources don't support the prior text. I've marked a couple CNs in the article. The hook is interesting, and its source is citation 8 (WorldCat). It's unclear if the book cover image is free / under fair use. QPQ may not be required since the nominator/contributor appears to be new. Anyway, fix the CNs, and confirm that the image is good for fair use. Hybernator (talk) 02:31, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
    • @Hybernator I have fixed the cns and I believe the image is ok, but someone who knows more about that stuff than me should confirm. blohod let's chat about stuff 00:57, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg The CNs have been fixed. Assuming the image is of fair use and a QPQ is not needed for a new editor, this is GTG. Hybernator (talk) 22:54, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this. WorldCat is not a source. Could you find the book on Google Books? Even a snippet view would be fine. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah The book itself is the source, not WorldCat, I put the ISBN into the automatic citation tool and that is what was generated, I don;t see how a google books link is any different. I may be entirely wrong though, as I am quite new to Wikipedia and unsure of the policies regarding this. blohod let's chat about stuff 01:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 2[edit]

Fremantle Fortress

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self-nominated at 07:55, 4 May 2020 (UTC).

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg New enough and long enough, well-written, neutral and seems free of plagiarism (Earwig stands at 35.1% but that's mostly due to proper nouns like names of the batteries, military units etc). Hook cited and interesting, and QPQ done. Looks good to go to me. Having written a number of articles about the fortifications of Malta myself, I found the article quite interesting - well done! Xwejnusgozo (talk) 09:37, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, and while the article is interesting, the hook is not. A fortress was named after a harbor? This is not "hooky" enough to reel in readers to click on the link. Please say something catchy about the fortress itself. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 11:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I had originally approved this on the basis that "fortress" tends to refer to a single fortification rather than a network of fortifications spread out on a relatively large area. However, I agree that the new hook is better, and it seems OK since it's cited, interesting and included in the article. Seems good to go. Xwejnusgozo (talk) 11:35, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Mongol campaign against the Nizaris

  • ... that the Nizari (the Assassin) garrison of Gerdkuh resisted the siege of the Mongol invaders for 13 more years after the surrender of their leaders? Source: "Girdkuh continued to resist its Mongol besiegers, as the last surviving Nizari outpost in Persia, for thirteen years after the fall ot Alamut." [48]
    • ALT1:... that invading Mongols had built permanent houses around the Nizari fortress of Gerdkuh, which resisted for 17 years? Source: "The Mongols, who had erected permanent structures and dwelling places of their own around Girdkuh"[49] "The fortress was besieged for seventeen consecutive years"[50]
    • ALT2:... that the besieged Nizari fortress of Gerdkuh surrendered after 17 years to the invading Mongols for the want of clothing? Source: "The fortress was besieged for seventeen consecutive years ... finally surrendered for the want of clothing"[51]
  • Reviewed: HMS Terror (I03)
  • Comment: The term "Nizari" is the more commonly used in modern scholarly works, but "Assassin" is commonly used in other sources.

Created by ZxxZxxZ (talk). Self-nominated at 17:11, 3 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Thanks, I've read in another source that it was a threat for not to invade, elsewhere I read about assassination attempts against Mongke, Hulegu and Kitbuqa. I will check Daftary's works and see what can be found there. --Z 14:23, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
  • My Mongol history prof (Broadbridge) mentioned an assassination attempt on Möngke, but I don't know if she's said this in any of her published work.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 19:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I have expanded the article and added a section discussing the Ismiali-Mongol relations before this campaign. --Z 15:44, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I personally like ALT2 the best, although I can't give this a proper review since I've helped the article.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 18:14, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Jewish Legion (Anders Army)

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 02:19, 3 May 2020 (UTC).

  • General eligibility:
  • New Enough: Green tickY
  • Long Enough: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - The article relies exclusively on a single source and the lead does not adequately summarize the article body. Being eligible for cleanup tags means that the article is unsuitable for DYK (in its current form).

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - Both hooks have vague wording. That some supported and some opposed, or that it "proved to be rather controversial", are not inherently interesting qualities.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg buidhe 09:16, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 3[edit]

Maister (gamer)

Created by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk). Self-nominated at 22:37, 3 May 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 4[edit]

Ludwik Maurycy Landau

5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 13:37, 5 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg OK, I think this meets the criteria. It's new and long enough, seems neutral, but there are a few issues that need clarification. For example, "intelligentsia family" just isn't used in English, you could say middle-class family but I'm not sure that's what's meant. I have no idea what is meant by "social income" and it redirects to an unrelated org. Also, I'm not sure the article supports his research being "underground". AGF on the hook sourcing. buidhe 23:07, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Buidhe: I don't believe I was pinged or notified about this reply; sorry for the delay in replying but can I ask you to ping me in the future if you want my reply? Also DYK review suggests leaving a talk page message if issues are present in an article as part of the regular process (Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Ludwik Maurycy Landau|header=yes|sig=yes}}), which I highly recommend to following in the future to speed things up. Now, (1) intelligentsia family is pretty clear to me. The word intelligentsia is used in English, it may not be very common and is a loan word I think, but it is more specific than middle-class and correct (and sourced) for this context. (2) You are right that the term social income redirects to an unrelated NGO, but it is an economic term used by the reliable source ([52]). It is not an error as this term is used in economy ([53]), so it is just the problem with an improper redirect and Wikipedia possibly missing an article on this topic; I'll add it to my to-do list. (Also, note that the term used to be a redirect to Guaranteed minimum income) and was recently broken by a new editor [54]). For now I'll add a pipe to the article, but I am not convinced this redirect is correct. But the term "social income" is, again, correct in the context of Landau's work (per the reliable, verifiable source using it). (3) I am happy to discuss better wording, but he was doing some research while hiding (as a Jew) with presumed hope of being able to publish it after the war. I think it fits the common-sense definition of "underground research". I'll ping User:Nihil novi, my go to oracle for English use, and see if he has any language suggestions for this? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:35, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Piotrus, thanks for the fixes. I thought that "intelligentsia" is a noun in English. Anyway I can understand what it means but as a native speaker it sounds like a grammar error to me. You and I both know that it was underground research but since this is Wikipedia there has to be a verifiable source for it. buidhe 04:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Buidhe I trust Nihil novi will shortly fix the sentence if it needs to read more nicely in English (maybe we need a possessive, intelligentsia's family? Or family of intelligentsia?). Regarding the underground research, I think it is not OR/SYNTH but just a paraphrase/use of summary style. Should we ask for a third opinion? Ping User:BlueMoonset: is it ok, should we reword it, what's your suggestion for this? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:46, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
"Intelligentsia", in the social structures of some countries, denotes the class of educated people or intellectuals. It is customary in Poland – where the term was coined in the 19th century, during the Partitions of Poland – in biographies to describe individuals as coming from, or belonging to, the intelligentsia, peasant, or worker classes. During World War II, both the occupying Germans and Soviets made it a point to eliminate or otherwise neutralize Poland's intelligentsia, as the social element most likely to organize opposition to them. "Intelligentsia" is a not unuseful sociological construct, which I would keep in the article. In English, the word is used in the same form as both noun and adjective.
Nihil novi (talk) 09:43, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
The article clearly states that Ludwik Maurycy Landau did research, writing, and teaching for the Polish underground state. Everything "underground" was, tautologically, "undercover".
Nihil novi (talk) 09:50, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Pinging buidhe to comment on whether her concerns have been addressed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:40, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 5[edit]

Man Down (Holby City)

Moved to mainspace by Soaper1234 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:54, 5 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Article is new enough, is huge, and is written in a careful and encyclopedic way. No copyvio issues: quotations are attributed properly. The hooks are short enough and are all stated in the article with an inline source, usually backed by multiple sources. I think it's desirable to link Holby City in the hooks. I personally think ALT1 is the most interesting; the others are more normal things I would expect to happen in creating a TV episode. The source for ALT1 doesn't explicitly mention stunts, but it mentions being on the edge of a roof with a harness, so a stunt is the fair way to summarise that in a word. Looking at another source from the article — ref 7 — the shot is explicitly described as a stunt. Better to have singular "stunt" rather than "stunts". For ALT2: the hook mentions the actor talking to friends and medical professionals, but the given source says the actor consulted people he knew, and the programme worked with a mental health charity, so this source doesn't specify that the actor spoke with medical professionals. In the article, the statement is backed by a different source which is a broadcast interview, so assuming good faith on that. Also note typo in ALT2 "prepartion". QPQ done.
So the article definitely qualifies, and the three hooks qualify (once the typo's fixed and maybe with the addition of the Holby City wikilink, and assuming goof faith for the ALT2 ref.)- my issues were with the sources suggested in this nomination rather than the sources which are used in the article. Good to go with a preference for ALT1 (but prefer "stunt" in the singular). Symbol confirmed.svg MartinPoulter (talk) 11:09, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Olivia Dahl

Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Self-nominated at 15:01, 7 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Reviewing...New enough, interesting, long enough. Take your time with a QPQ. May be Philafrenzy can think of an alternative hook on Olivia/measles/vaccine/Dahl. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:33, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT2 that after Olivia Dahl died from measles, her father Roald Dahl became an advocate of vaccination? It's tricky because he stated his views more than 20 years after her death and we need to keep the focus of the hook on the child not the father whose reactions form the core of the article. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:53, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Your right. Can you think of some more. Take your time. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg copyvio issues because of a large quote. Reviewing again...I think ALT1 is clearest and more Olivia focussed than others. Hooks are in article and followed by inline citations to sources containing hook facts. Other tag issues resolved. @No Swan So Fine:...I think the article might look better if the lead and beginning has 'a lead' followed by a section 'life' or 'biography'. Whispyhistory (talk) 06:23, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I would favour the original hook as Alt1 is a little banal and doesn't address the central impact of her death as forming his views on immunisation. It's also very topical right now. Agree it needs a proper lead and dividing into relevant sections now it has been moved. The second huge para needs breaking up. P.S. I doubt he spelled it with a "z" but that's what the source says so we will have to go with it. Philafrenzy (talk) 07:05, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg to proposed hook too. Whispyhistory (talk) 07:42, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Apologies...just saw that a QPQ is due. Ping @No Swan So Fine:....Whispyhistory (talk) 08:35, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
The tag on the article has not yet been addressed. Yoninah (talk) 14:03, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
@Philafrenzy: the original hook is inaccurate, as he said it two decades later. I suggest tweaking ALT2 as follows:
ALT2a: ... that Roald Dahl became an advocate of vaccination after his eldest daughter died from measles, saying it was "almost a crime to allow your child to go unimmunized"? Yoninah (talk) 19:16, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
Fine. @No Swan So Fine: just needs to provide the QPQ and write the lead and do some tidying. Philafrenzy (talk) 06:09, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry, now done. Thanks for all your hard work. No Swan So Fine (talk) 17:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 6[edit]

Systime Computers Ltd

Created by Wasted Time R (talk). Self-nominated at 11:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Review

General eligibility:

  • New Enough: Green tickY
  • Long Enough: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - I believe some of the sections in your article, specifically The Cold War, could be rewritten to have more full-length prose to it, and not merely a collection of sentences. There isn't anything wrong with the content, it could just be formatted to be nicer to read. There is also some unprofessional language, e.g. "The effect was immense". Be specific in what affected what, and don't use the same phrase twice in succession.

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - No citation was given.
  • Interesting: Red XN - It is very unclear what "was a victim of the Cold War" means. If you wish to say that the Cold War caused several economic failures that lead to the company's bankruptcy, a better way to phrase it may be "was brought to bankruptcy because of Cold War restrictions on exports". I also recommend adding in an interesting fact from your summary: "During the late 1970s and early 1980s, Systime become the second largest British manufacturer of computers". I would phrase it as such: "...that Systime Computers, the second largest British computer manufacturer, was brought to bankruptcy because of Cold War restrictions?"
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg Waxworker (talk) 20:21, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

@Waxworker: Thanks for the review. I completely agree that the Cold War section needs more work on the prose – the sources I was using were unclear on some of the timeline, and so I am looking at some additional sources from the Gale repository in the WP Library, and was waiting on the prose until that was done. But I was up against the 7-day filing deadline for DYK so I had to create the nom today. Bear with me, I will have the article in better shape in the next couple of days. As for the hook, I like a little bit of mystery in the hook, to draw the reader into clicking through. But I realize that hook styles differ ... Wasted Time R (talk) 22:22, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
@Waxworker: I've done further work on this and the copyediting run that I spoke out, so the article is ready for re-review. In terms of the ALT0 original hook, I think it is supported by this quote in the article: "By 1985, in the aftermath of U.S. sanctions, the company was virtually destroyed.". But per your request, here are two alternate hooks.
  • ALT2: ... that Systime Computers Ltd, once Britain's second largest computer manufacturer, went into great decline due to a dispute over export restrictions during the Cold War?
Note that we can't say "bankruptcy", as you suggested, because as far as I know the company never actually entered that state. I continue to prefer ALT0, but it's up to you and the DYK promoter.
Thanks for your patience and let me know of any further comments. Wasted Time R (talk) 17:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

Tilly Bébé

  • ... that Tilly Bébé, an international performer with lions and a pioneer of their docile training, starred with her animals in a 1907 silent film genre described as "exotic-erotic-escapist"? Source: [55] for the quote, + others
  • Reviewed: to come
  • Comment: images, but not good enough - not only that film was described that way, but a whole genre, but I have no way of saying that short enough.

Created by SusunW (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 08:26, 13 May 2020 (UTC).

Heuglin's gazelle

Illustration of Heuglin's gazelle
Illustration of Heuglin's gazelle

5x expanded by Sainsf (talk). Self-nominated at 22:52, 6 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Thanks Johnbod, I like ALT1. Sources don't mention the date it was sighted, but the month is most probably June as the earliest report (from the government) was on 29 June. I would suggest sticking to the year. Sainsf · (How ya doin'?) 14:31, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
I meant the Italian period year actually, but the source I looked at was vague. Johnbod (talk) 15:24, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Striking both hooks because parenthetical comments, such as "(19th to 20th centuries)", are not allowed in hooks (see WP:DYKSG#C9). Getting a better colonial date, as Johnbod suggests, is one way to deal with the issue; another is phrasing like "over a century" or whatever the actual time period is that it hasn't been seen. Sainsf, you'll need to supply a new hook (or hooks). Thanks, and sorry for the bad news. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:49, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • BlueMoonset, thanks for the comment. I am not sure about the actual date or time period, and the source does not mention it anyway, but we can be sure that the colonial rule existed "over a century back". I have rephrased the hook: Sainsf (t · c) 18:09, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that Heuglin's gazelle (illustrated), reportedly last seen in Eritrea over a century back during Italian colonial rule, was sighted again in the country in 2019?
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that a hook is set. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:31, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Over Ground Worker

Created by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 11:03, 6 May 2020 (UTC).

  • DiplomatTesterMan, it's been over three weeks since you nominated this, well beyond the time when a QPQ review should have been submitted. Please do one right away. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Doing just now. DTM (talk) 04:43, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • qpq started. DTM (talk) 05:28, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 7[edit]

Günther Massenkeil

  • ... that the musicologist Günther Massenkeil, known for a music encyclopedia in eight volumes, initiated the restoration of the village organ he had played as a prisoner of war in Alsace decades earlier? Source: [58]
  • Reviewed: to come

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 10:20, 14 May 2020 (UTC).


QPQ: Red XN - Still outstanding
Overall: Symbol question.svg QPQ still outstanding. AGF on the sources since I don't speak German. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 04:37, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

I reviewed now Template:Did you know nominations/Jenny Gusyk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Wong Keng Liang

  • ... that Wong Keng Liang has been called the "Pablo Escobar of animal trafficking"? Source: "For more than two decades, Anson Wong has been the internationally recognised "face" of the trade; the 'Pablo Escobar' of animal trafficking, according to some." (Source)
  • Reviewed: Chandrayaan-2
  • Comment: There are a lot of interesting things in the article. I'd say the hook is simple and attention grabbing, but feel free to offer another suggestion.

Created by EchetusXe (talk). Self-nominated at 15:30, 8 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg fascinating article--new and long enough, and I like the hook. No copyvio detected, tone is neutral (no fault of yours that 90% of the article is devoted to his smuggling career). Nice work! Kingoflettuce (talk) 07:39, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
QPQ is done too :) Kingoflettuce (talk) 07:39, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Although if I might say, Pablo is so passe--something evoking Joe Exotic would be even better (and Wong did deal not just with lizards but tigers too) Kingoflettuce (talk) 07:41, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Hárshegy

View from Hárshegy of Budapest
View from Hárshegy of Budapest
Observation tower in Hárshegy, Budapest
Observation tower in Hárshegy, Budapest

Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 17:53, 7 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Nice little article, but about what? Good sources, Hungarian sources accepted AGF. The image is licensed, but looks rather abstract in stamp size. I prefer the original hook. Now to the article. When I read "neighbourhood" (UK English please?), I expect people living there, but the article tells us nothing. It seems a bit arbitrary what went to the lead, and what to the body. Please sort it out for me and others readers: What is it, briefly, in the lead, and history, and naming history two sections. - Thank you for the offer of a qpq, but given some time, I'll manage my own ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I just swapped out the image to a less "muddled" one, and a new corresponding hook. --evrik (talk) 16:02, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    The image is much better, but pictures no hills, - please reword. The article hasn't changed much. How about moving the description from almost the end to the first line: "The area is a popular place for recreation, including camping and hiking", before surprising by a children's railway first thing? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I ran out of time earlier. I reworded a hook, and have reorg'ed the article a bit. I think it flows better. Thoughts? --evrik (talk) 21:03, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Striking the first 2 as the others are better. I am not sure "sweeping" is encyclopedic enough. Will look at the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    Almost ready to strike ALT2 also, because Budapest is not recognizable this size. For ALT3, you need to find a way not to say "the towers" and then picture one. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    The article flows better. Can you make "Lindenberg" less of a surprise? Please avoid "popular" in two sentences in a row. I suggest ALT4 to just copy from the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:31, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
    The "commanding view" image is not yet part of the article ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:32, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Copy edits made. Images added. --evrik (talk) 21:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Much improved, but I still don't know when the name Lindenberg came in, and people not reading German will not know it's for a tree. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:14, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

Riyaz Naikoo

  • Reviewed: Indigo (restaurant)
  • Comment: I'm not sure if the first hook is a little negative but no one died in this particular encounter. The police had to release his father and the militant let the eleven family members go. ALT3/ALT4 and ALT5 act as a replacement to the first 3 similar hooks then.

Created/expanded by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 12:22, 7 May 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 8[edit]

Another Holocaust

Converted from a redirect by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 01:29, 8 May 2020 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg @Buidhe: New enough, long enough, QPQ done, copyvio 26.5%, interesting hooks, but here are my concerns:
  • Ref 15 should cite The Times of Israel instead of www.timesofisrael.com.
  • ALT1 has WP:NPOV issues. For the article to be neutral, you should also explain why Pence made these accusations instead of just a one-sentence quote.
  • I'd go with ALT0, but it needs some work. I'd propose it as ALT0a: ... that Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin claimed that he had prevented another Holocaust by bombing an Iraqi nuclear reactor? I'd also suggest adding a picture of Begin to the article and this proposal.
  • Not related to DYK, but the photo of Bridget Loves Bernie doesn't belong in the article because it isn't mentioned in the prose and doesn't enhance the reader's understanding.
Let me know with a ping when you've addressed these concerns. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 19:20, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  1. Wikipedia:Did you know/Citation says nothing about such minor details in citations.
  2. Fine, that's why I provided 3 hooks.
  3. Why did you strike ALT0? WP:DYKHOOK does not require links other than the one to the featured article. 3 links in one hooks is too many imo.
  • I appreciate constructive suggestions, but please keep them separate from comments that are related to the DYK criteria and eligibility of the article and hook. buidhe 21:04, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
@Buidhe: The point was that you did not introduce who Menachem Begin was, so that hook has no context. Again, neutrality issues still haven't been addressed; that pertains to the article, not just the hooks. Also, I perceived the incorrect citation as bordering a bare URL, my mistake. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:25, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
I fail to see how the absense of context could be a WP:NPOV issue, which "means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic." Nevertheless, I've added some. I also do not see how what Begin looks like would be remotely relevant to the article or the hook. I wouldn't object to ALT0a with minor modifications: ALT0b: "... that Israeli prime minister Menachem Begin said that he had prevented another Holocaust by bombing an Iraqi nuclear reactor?" but I also do not see anything wrong with the original hook. buidhe 21:37, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
@Buidhe: Because Pence claiming that Iran wants "Another Holocaust" is a clearly loaded statement that definitely required context. Why are you so opposed to wikilinks to Begin and Operation Opera? Read MOS:LINK, it makes it easier for readers to find information which is what we want to do. The photo of Begin would be because he is the subject of the quote, as is typical for DYK. It would also make your DYK eligible for a top spot, but it's okay to not want that. Also... you say you appreciate the constructive criticism but have kept the irrelevant photo in the article and you haven't fixed the one incorrect citation. Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 22:47, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 9[edit]

Stanford Fleet Street Singers

  • Comment: Fewer than 5 DYK's at this point (I think 2–3?)

Improved to Good Article status by Shrinkydinks (talk). Self-nominated at 18:38, 12 May 2020 (UTC).

Pavle Jovanovic (bobsledder)

  • ... that Pavle Javonovic was one of the best "pusher"s in bobsledding, a position requiring extraordinary speed, strength, and finesse? Source: here there “If there was ever a bobsledder born to push heavy objects, man it was Pavle. Pavle was definitely a one of a kind original.” Mesler memorialized that Jovanovic was his "personal legend," and "the athlete that set the standard for focus, dedication, meticulousness, and drive” in his life and for the team. ... Pavle was king. He WAS the standard." there "When it comes to loading into the sled, I think that that is something that only years and years of experience in high competitions, with crowds and years of training properly at high speeds, can really give you crisp, smooth look," he explained. "That is just timing and work over and over again in the whole offseason." Since mere thousandths of a second can separate winner, precise teamwork is required. Obtaining "the smoothest acceleration" is the goal, and entry should be automatic, "crisp and clean". "And from that point on, you are just trying to stay as smooth and as long and as bio-mechanically correct as you can from what your coaches have taught you all along." there
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

5x expanded by 7&6=thirteen (☎) Self-nominated at 18:08, 12 May 2020 (UTC).

Dye (EP)

  • ... that the title of Got7's EP Dye is a pun on the word "dye" which refers to both colour and death?

5x expanded by Ashleyyoursmile (talk). Self-nominated at 07:48, 11 May 2020 (UTC).

Bell Cottage ruin

Created by Calistemon (talk). Self-nominated at 02:21, 11 May 2020 (UTC).

List of operas by Claudio Monteverdi

  • Reviewed: SS Dongola, 2nd article
  • Comment: best on the composer's birthday 15 May, and sorry for being late

Moved to mainspace by Aza24 (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:08, 9 May 2020 (UTC).

  • The hook wording is rather confusing: would it be better to say instead that L'Orfeo is (from what I can tell from the article) the oldest opera that is still regularly performed today? I'm sure that hook fact, if worded properly, would interest even non-opera fans. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:24, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that L'Orfeo, which premiered in 1607 and is one of the three surviving operas by Claudio Monteverdi, is the oldest opera still regularly being performed today?
Would you be fine with this wording? I'm not sure how to avoid the repeated use of the word "opera" so this could probably be revised further. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:39, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the offer, however, I feel that it would be a good hook about L'Orfeo, but not the operas. What do others think? It could also be shortened by dropping the date, because I feel a clause with two points retards the key fact for too long? And I think the key fact should be at the end. And I think "surviving" might raise curiosity, and perhaps more than "oldest" whatever. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:54, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Incitement to genocide

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 14:40, 9 May 2020 (UTC).

Honora Jenkins' will

Created/expanded by Serial Number 54129 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:17, 9 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Nice article, long & neutral enough, & well-written. Slightly concerned about the hook, & the ref given. Does the case alter the way, or provide justification for altered ways due to COVID? Might other refs support it better? More later. Johnbod (talk) 14:00, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
@Johnbod: Thanks for this. Apologies for the delay; I've been in Grenada. Well, the point of my "may" was to suggest that it wasn't in any sense a general, or permanent, change. Do you not approve of the NYT? I'm sure there's plenty of other hooks in the article, but I thought it would be a shame not to link it to the current pandemic (not, I hasten to add, because there's not enough COVID-19 coverage on the front page (!!!), but because there are few light-hearted mentions. Thoughts? serial # 12:53, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
No worries! Is that where the mysterious elbow was located? I'm actually happy to drag this out, as I explain at my other nom. My concern was with "alter" rather than anything else. I like the COVID angle generally. Johnbod (talk) 13:04, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Ok, can we move on this now - thanks Johnbod (talk) 14:01, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Mueller, Benjamin (April 28, 2020). "Where There's a Will in England, There's a Way" – via NYTimes.com.

Ferenc Varga (sculptor), Frank Varga

Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 17:54, 9 May 2020 (UTC).

Christine Hayes

5x expanded by Cawhee (talk). Self-nominated at 18:43, 11 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg@Cawhee: thanks for working on this article about a very impressive scholar. I don't believe it has been expanded 5x per WP:DYKRULES 1b. Could you confirm if I am missing something? Onceinawhile (talk) 17:01, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg The article was 10,370 prose characters prior to the first of Cawhee's edits, and is now 4,266 prose characters, a decrease in size rather than an expansion. This was in two steps: a cut/rewrite on May 10, and a further expansion on May 17. However, as it says at WP:DYKSG#A4: Fivefold expansion is calculated from the previously existing article, no matter how bad it was (copyvios are an exception), no matter whether you kept any of it and no matter if it were up for deletion. So this cannot qualify as an expansion. If the article should someday become a Good Article, it can be nominated at that time, but it is too large a base to qualify as a 5x expansion. Courtesy ping to Onceinawhile, the original reviewer, who noticed the expansion issue. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Taungtha people

  • ... that the Taungtha, an unrecognized ethnic group of Myanmar, claim descent from the Pyu during the reign of the legendary King Thamoddarit of Pagan? See (Eleven Media Group 2020-05-09) for them being an unrecognized ethnic group; See (Myanmar Digital News) for their claim from Thamoddarit. Both sources are in Burmese.
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created by Hintha (talk). Nominated by Hybernator (talk) at 03:21, 16 May 2020 (UTC).

  • @Hintha and Hybernator: Because Thamoddarit may not be a familiar name to most readers, would it be a good idea to mention that he was a founder of a dynasty in the hook, to add context? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 12:59, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Narutolovehinata5, Pagan and Pyu people added for additional context. (Thamoddarit, according to legend, was a Pyu royal from Sri Ksetra Kingdom who left for what is now central Myanmar, and founded Pagan (Bagan). The Taungtha claim they are of Pyu descent, not of Pagan (or Bamar/Burman) descent.) Hybernator (talk) 04:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 10[edit]

Senior Citizens party-list

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self-nominated at 14:28, 10 May 2020 (UTC).

  • It's been a long time since I last did a DYK. Do I still have to do QPQ? Howard the Duck (talk) 14:44, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - Does it say in the article that the belated swearing-in is due to the three candidate lists being submitted? In the article I only see that three candidate lists were submitted, then the winner was sworn in belatedly, but without a relationship between the two events.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg epicgenius (talk) 16:19, 11 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I did not see this till now. Symbol confirmed.svg This is good to go. epicgenius (talk) 23:03, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but it is unclear from the article that the swearing-in was belated; please state this explicitly. Also, I find the hook confusing and wordy. The section about the 2013 election seems much juicier in terms of a hook. Also, please add citations for the Electoral chart. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:31, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Reference #16 shows that the legislature has already convened, and that its leaders is asking the election commission to hurry up in declaring Senior Citizens' winning nominee. As for the blurb, we could make it less wordy to by omitting the reason and just say it was delayed.
  • As for 2013, I'd agree, as it was not just delayed; they were not seated. How about:
  • ALT1: ... that no nominees for Senior Citizens Partylist were seated in the House of Representatives of the Philippines despite winning in the 2013 election due a dispute on which between the two sets of nominees to follow?
  • I've also cited "Electoral performance" section. Howard the Duck (talk) 02:47, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • @Howard the Duck: When we review hook facts for DYK, we want to see the information written in the article; then we look at the source to see that the text is verified in the source. Please spell out in the article that the swearing-in was delayed. As for ALT1, it is wordy and repetitive, and is not going to be of interest to anyone who doesn't follow Philippines politics. I'll try to suggest another alt later. Yoninah (talk) 11:49, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
  • I've added the date when Congress first convened, when congressional leaders urged the Commission on Elections act on this party's pending petition, and when the party's nominee was sworn in. I'd go with using the original blurb as approved by Epicgenius. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:16, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Covid Symptom Study

Created by Rich Farmbrough (talk), Joseph2302 (talk), and PamD (talk). Nominated by Joseph2302 (talk) at 18:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Ah, I remember this from the London Zoom meeting, nice to see it in good shape and going to DYK! Reviewing now: Article is five days old so new enough; long enough, prose is 2100+ characters, exceeding 1500; well referenced with inline citations to reliable sources; is neutral and within policy; no plagiarism or close paraphrasing that I can find; and QPQ checks out. Hook has proper format, is interesting to a broad audience, and well sourced; just tweaked it by linking COVID-19. Overall looks good to go for DYK to me! My only suggestion (outside of the criteria to my knowledge) is that the article be moved to "COVID Symptom Tracker" as in the official name of the app[60][61] and as in other COVID-19-related articles[62][63]. ▼PσlєοGєєкƧɊƲΔƦΣƉ▼ 12:59, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook is a little repetitive. Yoninah (talk) 12:08, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Battle of Asakai

Created by 3family6 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:15, 15 May 2020 (UTC).

  • @3family6: I've made a slight change to the hook explaining that it took place in Eve Online, though for now I'll leave the review to another editor. I'm not sure though if Eve Online or the battle's name should be mentioned first in the hook. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Monita Rajpal

Sources:

  1. Eckler, Rebecca (2001-04-04). "Former 'switchette' bound for CNN: Monita Rajpal lands coveted position with media giant". National Post. Archived from the original on 2020-05-10. Retrieved 2020-05-10 – via Newspapers.com.

    The article notes: "Upon graduation from Ryerson, she accepted a six-month receptionist position at ChumCity."

  2. Sarkar, John (2007-04-14). "Seeking cultures". The Economic Times. Archived from the original on 2020-05-10. Retrieved 2020-05-10.

    The article notes: ""To interview these international leaders has been an incredible experience. My meetings with the Mexican president Vicente Fox and Colombian President Andres Pastrana have been the best so far," says Monita."

  3. Coutts, Matthew (2010-10-28). "Monita Rajpal: From a T.O. reception desk to CNN's anchor chair, this cable news icon dishes on landing her dream job and growing up in North York". TRNTO. Post City Magazines. Archived from the original on 2020-05-10. Retrieved 2020-05-10.

    The article notes: "Rajpal has interviewed renowned world leaders and politicians for CNN, including Al Gore and former Soviet Union president Mikhail Gorbachev."

  4. Taneja, Nikhil (2010-09-25). "CNN's new show on art and culture: Icon explores the memorable facets of art and transcends boundaries in terms of culture and influence; Monita Rajapal, news anchor with CNN, will host the show". Hindustan Times. Archived from the original on 2020-05-10. Retrieved 2020-05-10.

    The article notes: ""We are not only focusing on established icons," explains the veteran news anchor, who counts Mikhail Gorbachev, Tom Ford and IM Pei among her top interviews."

5x expanded by Cunard (talk). Self-nominated at 07:50, 11 May 2020 (UTC).

Burchell Whiteman

5x expanded by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 07:42, 10 May 2020 (UTC).

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Red XN - The cited source implies that he was the top student in Clarendon, but it may not be the case. I suppose the hook can be at least as cautious as the source on this.
  • Interesting: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Just the hook being cautious on him being the top student in Clarendon, just as the same way the source is. Howard the Duck (talk) 08:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Hey Howard the Duck, thanks for the review, but I don't quite agree. The source says "which means he was the top student for Clarendon", so that's unambiguous (as opposed to "which suggests", etc.). I wouldn't second-guess what the source is literally saying (that "it may not be the case") In any case I don't know how cautious the reworded hook can be, never mind that its original wording is verifiable, without sounding awkward. Kingoflettuce (talk) 08:57, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
I suppose a short explanation of him attending Munro College on a government scholarship means he was considered the top student of the county. Howard the Duck (talk) 09:58, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
In the hook? I just find it a mouthful and it doesn't change that at the end of the day the source does unambiguously say that he was the top student. Kingoflettuce (talk) 12:13, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
Sorry for being unclear. I was referring to explaining this on the article per se. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:23, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
It's apparent User:Kingoflettuce won't do the request. I'll let another person chime in. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:27, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
More of a comment than a review, but I'm not so sure about the hook interest. Being a top student in a place is a remarkable achievement, but also fairly common place and doesn't seem to make a good hook if it refers to a fairly obscure location. There's probably still potential for the hook fact, but at the very least it could be reworded to make it more appealing, like perhaps he got a scholarship because of it. Is it also known if the scholarship was the reason he entered politics? If it was, that might work better as a hook. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 08:29, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Being the top student in some obscure place is not interesting. —BarrelProof (talk) 23:55, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

East York Lyndhursts

Canada versus the Soviet Union in 1954
Canada versus the Soviet Union in 1954

5x expanded by Flibirigit (talk). Self-nominated at 06:02, 10 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment it's misleading to describe the Soviet Union team as "Russians". Also, some of the hooks read as POV, eg "the best thing that could have happened". buidhe 21:58, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
  • I thought extensively about the wording Russian vs Soviet. I am well aware of the nuances. I chose to use the same wording the sources since they are derived from direct quotes. I feel that changing the word in a direct quote is worse than wikilinking to the Soviet team. The hooks are based on direct quotes. I have added quotation marks to make this more clear. Quotations can have inherent POV. Altering a quotation to remove POV would itself be bias. Flibirigit (talk) 04:11, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg nomination has not received a full review yet. Flibirigit (talk) 08:08, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 11[edit]

Cover Girl Strip Poker

  • ... that models featured in the game Cover Girl Strip Poker weren't informed what the photoshoot was for, and several models weren't paid for their involvement in the game? Source: Trine Michelsen, a model in the game, stated in an interview that "It was not at all clear what it would be for, and I did it as a favor. Apperently some of the other models weren't paid at all." Kenneth Bernholm, the CEO of the parent comapny of the original publisher, in response to being asked how much the models were paid, stated that "You can ask, but you won't get an answer". [67]
    • ALT1:... that Cover Girl Strip Poker has a legal disclaimer stating that the game is "Not manufactured, distributed or endorsed by any of the models appearing in the product"? Source: The back cover of the game explicitly states this,[68] and Amiga Power also mentioned the disclaimer.[69]

Created by Waxworker (talk). Self-nominated at 20:25, 13 May 2020 (UTC).

Hebraization of Palestinian place names

  • ... that there is a recent trend to reverse the Hebraization of street names in mixed Jewish-Arab cities in Israel? Source: Rekhess, Elie. “The Arab Minority in Israel: Reconsidering the ‘1948 Paradigm.’” Israel Studies, vol. 19, no. 2, 2014, pp. 187–217. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/10.2979/israelstudies.19.2.187; "A new trend that has become particularly popular in recent years in mixed Jewish-Arab cities, is attempts to restore original Arabic street names, “Hebraized” after 1948."
  • Reviewed: To come

Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Self-nominated at 21:28, 11 May 2020 (UTC). comment


  • comment There are few problems in the article there are active discussions on the talk page --Shrike (talk) 08:25, 14 May 2020 (UTC)

Czechoslovak myth

  • ... that the myth of Czechoslovakia as "a welcoming and tolerant place for Jews" was exploited by Czechoslovak politicians?
    • ALT1:... that the Czechoslovak myth describes the country as "a welcoming and tolerant place for Jews" and an "island of democracy in Eastern Europe"?

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 09:31, 11 May 2020 (UTC).

  • I have some knowledge in this area (History of Jews in the Czech lands/Czechoslovakia), but I've never heard about the existence of the term "Czechoslovak myth" as a commonly accepted term referring specifically to the political exploitation of a concept of "Jew-tolerant" post-war Czechoslovakia. This story has many facets and can be explained properly but I don't think it deserves a stand alone article under the title "Czechoslovak myth" as a commonly accepted concept. I would be good to see what exactly the sources say. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 06:21, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • One of the sources (Orzoff) is already quoted in the article and even has "myth" in the title. Lichtenstein writes in the abstract of her paper, "Instead, they sought to cultivate a strategic alliance between the state's Czech elite and the Jewish minority which centred on the claim that Czechoslovakia was a particularly welcoming and tolerant place for Jews, an image that would evolve into a significant component of the myth of Czechoslovakia as an island of democracy in Eastern Europe." Lanicek says, "Thus the ‘myth’ of the exceptional Czechoslovak democracy – closely linked to its treatment of Jews – was born. The Czechoslovaks soon became aware of this reputation among the other East- Central European nations and began to utilise it for political benefit. This ‘myth’ became the main asset of Czechoslovak foreign policy already at Versailles." It is not necessary for every source to use the term in order to have a wiki article on it. If you'd like to propose a different title, feel free to file a WP:RM. buidhe 06:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Orzoff's book or study discusses the term 'Czechoslovak myth' from a different and far broader perspective, from what I can see in this review of the book (Historická sociologie 1-2/2012, Charles University in Prague (in Czech)). Similarly, the thesis La Nation Tchèque: konstrukce československého národa ve Francii (Charles University, full version in Czech sercheable on Internet, abstract and summary also in English) deals with the topic (from the point of view of Orzoff and other researchers) in a broader context. The author says (my clumsy translation with the help of G-translator): A key publication for this thesis is the book by the American historian Andrea Orzoff, specializing in modern European history. The book describes the so-called Czechoslovak myth, as constructed by T. G. Masaryk and E. Beneš. This myth forms a basic narrative framework of Czechoslovak propaganda presented to foreign, and later also to domestic, audience. Czechoslovaks are portrayed as fair, naturally democratic founded, progressive, peaceful nation with a sense of humanity, naturally inclined to Western Europe. The idealized nature of the Czechoslovak nation is then built in contrast to the cruelty and power of German nations and Hungarians who oppress and exploit Czechs. Your interpretation may be a part of the story of Czechoslovak myth, but incomplete and highly selective. I think that in a broader examination of the topic we should focus on works describing activities of T. G. Masaryk, E. Beneš and Ernest Denis in Paris during 1915-1918, and the revue La Nation Tchèque. Vejvančický (talk / contribs) 14:02, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • The very first sentence of the article states, "Czechoslovak myth is a term used by some scholars to refer to the narrative that Czechoslovakia was a tolerant and liberal democratic country, oriented towards Western Europe, and free of antisemitism compared to other countries in central and eastern Europe." Multiple sources do discuss the treatment of Jews as an important element of the myth, which I don't think that's contradicted by any of the sources you cited. If you'd like to expand the article with more detail and information, please feel free, I don't WP:OWN it. buidhe 23:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Roland Tan

  • ... that Roland Tan was the most wanted fugitive in Singapore but remained at large for 51 years until his death on 4 April 2020 in Denmark?

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 08:36, 11 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Article created and nominated on the same day. Long enough and meets basic policy requirements. Passes spotcheck and earwigs. Hook is interesting enough and cited inline. However, the reference Once Singapore's most wanted, gangster Roland Tan dies after 51 years on the run (The Strait Times Singapore) requires a log in or subscription. Please could you put the appropriate lock sign to signify this, especially as this ref has been used in multiple places. Also you forgot the talk page.
  • After you fix these small points, I will request this DYK nom to be put on hold for sometime, in case anyone has a better hook, as per noms comment. (If the nom wants this passed without any alt hook suggestion please let me know). Symbol possible vote.svg DTM (talk) 09:28, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Yeah sure, both done, although technically neither points raised are DYK requirements (especially the talk page bit). Thanks anyway! Kingoflettuce (talk) 10:05, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Kingoflettuce Thanks. You hadn't mentioned which citation supports the DYK hook. So if I were to take the one mentioned above, it would be important since the final tick would not be the green one but rather the blue one signifying "reference behind a paywall accepted in good faith".
So do you want to wait for dyk suggestions? Or maybe give yourself time too to think of something else? DTM (talk) 10:26, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Think it's going to be the latter option regardless in light of the offline sources that I've cited, which I unfortunately can't make available online. It's not just about sources pertaining to the hook, obviously--I presume you've reviewed the whole article so you'd know. I like this hook actually, it was just a casual comment Kingoflettuce (talk) 10:46, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg DTM (talk) 12:24, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 12[edit]

Hope Runs High

  • ... that in 2019, Hope Runs High started theatrically re-releasing documentaries directed by Lee Grant, marking the first time many of the films have been exhibited in decades?

Created by Lwottring (talk). Nominated by SL93 (talk) at 01:20, 14 May 2020 (UTC).

Jim Lander

  • ... that Jim Lander graduated from Lander University? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
  • Reviewed: IOU

Created by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 02:32, 13 May 2020 (UTC).

St. Lawrence (restaurant)

Created by Premeditated Chaos (talk). Self-nominated at 23:28, 12 May 2020 (UTC).

The Doon School Quintet

Created by TerentiusNew (talk). Self-nominated at 14:48, 12 May 2020 (UTC).

Note: Hello, copyvio shows up mainly because of the quotes used in "Critical reception" section. TerentiusNew (talk) 03:54, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Antonio Berti (sculptor)

Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 18:30, 15 May 2020 (UTC).

Comment: I looked at the article. Striking ALT1 which has two direct links to the Italian Wikipedia, which will not be accepted, also the church and the person will probably not attract many, and the image is poor. I looked at which image is good, and came up with
Statue of Foscolo in Santa Croce
Statue of Foscolo in Santa Croce
ALT2: ... that the Italian sculptor Antonio Berti made a statue of Ugo Foscolo (pictured) for his tomb in Santa Croce, Florence? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
The article says bust here, statue there, - to my understanding it's a statue. The portrayed man was a poet and revolutionary, which might add extra interest if mentioned in the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:01, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT1a: ... that while he was an official sculptor of the Holy See, Antonio Berti sculpted busts of Pius XII, Louise de Marillac, and a statue of Giulio Facibeni on the square in front of the Church of Santo Stefano in Pane?
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thank you for the help, Gerda. --evrik (talk) 16:46, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Note: ALT1a struck as it is too long, at 212 prose characters. Perhaps an ALT1b can be fashioned that comes in at under 200 characters? BlueMoonset (talk) 22:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that hooks are set. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 13[edit]

Balidaan (1997 film)

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 15:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC).

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg New enough at only two days old, all of the information is cited, including its ban in Nepal, and I see no neutrality, sourcing, plagiarism, or any other problems with the article. BTW congratulations on finding this really interesting hook since I have always found stuff relating to the Nepalese Communist Party or Nepalese Civil War really interesting. Jon698 talk 21:58 21 May 2020 (UTC)

  • Yoninah, I thought quotes looked better, I guess, but fixed. I think that the Nepalese Civil War pipe is appropriate because this event led to film being banned. The war lasted from 1996 to 2006. It was banned by Nepali monarchy but they were overthrowed as a result of the war. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 16:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @CAPTAIN MEDUSA: OK, now that I edited the page I see there was quite a bit of time between the film's release and its banning. Do you want to include the date in the hook?
  • ALT1: ... that the 1997 historical drama Balidaan (Sacrifice) was banned eight years later by King Gyanendra for its portrayal of Nepal's communist movement? Yoninah (talk) 17:14, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, Thank you for the copy edit. Including the release date seems relevant. ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 17:20, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Thanks. @Jon698: could you sign off on ALT1 please? Yoninah (talk) 17:22, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Yoninah, I came here to give the tick you requested nearly a week ago, but was unable to find in any of the sources wording that specifically ascribed the banning to Gyanendra himself, so I can't approve ALT1. Neither the wording in the lede nor in the Sarkar quote goes that far (and the quote is very odd in that it says "five years ago" yet there is no identification of when the passage was written). BlueMoonset (talk) 02:11, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  • The article was written on September 24, 2005 (see the heading on the bold text).
... that 1997 historical drama Balidaan (Sacrifice) was banned eight years later by King Gyanendra's government for its portrayal of Nepal's communist movement?
Hi BlueMoonset, Is this better? ~~ CAPTAIN MEDUSAtalk 11:19, 3 June 2020 (UTC)

KROQ Top 106.7 Countdowns

Sinéad O'Connor topped the 1990 KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown
Sinéad O'Connor topped the 1990 KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown

Converted from a redirect by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 06:36, 13 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Redirect expansion started on 12 May and nominated well in time on 13 May. Though not a part of the DYK requirement, I would request the nominator to adjust the class to list, that is if you agree this is a list article. Some minor copyedits like the extra comma before cites 5 and 6 could be done. Earwigs gives "violation unlikely". As far as the hooks go:
  • ALT0: You have written ".... only woman, or female.....". Is this on purpose? Also, maybe interchange Sinéad O'Connor and KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown so that more emphasis is given on KROQ since that is the article in question.
  • ALT1: You have written ".... had a world-wide impact... " ... would "... had a world-wide audience..." be better? Please clarify the line that has been quoted, is it "KROQ is the most powerful rock station in the world" ...?
The image is clear and aptly licensed, though I do have my doubts about the relevance of a singers image in this. But since the first hook brings out the relevance it is ok. ALT1 doesn't go with the image. QPQ to be done. Symbol question.svg DTM (talk) 13:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

... that Sinéad O'Connor is the only woman, or female group, to top the KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown?

  • Fixed first hook. Changed class, adjusted commas. Created Alt0a and Alt1a. Yes, the citation was about "most powerful." --evrik (talk) 16:06, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
  • GTG. ALT0a, ALT1, ALT1a with a preference for ALT1a over ALT1. Image is more suitable with ALT0a. Symbol confirmed.svg DTM (talk) 05:19, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Hi, I came by to promote this. @DiplomatTesterMan: I don't understand your problem with ALT0. ALT0a is so much more wordy. Yoninah (talk) 16:06, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Yoninah, as I have mentioned above, the problem was that I thought the hook+image focused more on Sinéad O'Connor than the actual DYK article KROQ Top 106.7. But if you think the hook ALT0 is alright, I agree that it is shorter and easier to read than ALT0a. I'm fine with both. It was merely a suggestion " Also, maybe interchange"..... rather than a problem (text in bold). DTM (talk) 05:37, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @DiplomatTesterMan: Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't planning on promoting the image; it's too dark at thumbnail size. Yoninah (talk) 09:50, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah:, I love the green slash of light in that photo. --evrik (talk) 21:44, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg OK, I see that Sinead O'Connor is the only woman on the chart, but that is sourced to RadioHitlist. Nothing is mentioned in the LA Times article (footnote 8) about her being the only woman to top the charts. In fact, footnote 8 doesn't verify anything in that paragraph under Lack of female artist representation. Do you have another source for that? Yoninah (talk) 10:01, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Oops, missed this. DTM (talk) 13:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: could you point me to the exact line in the source that verifies the hook fact? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:59, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • My apologies, I have spent too much time from the article. Hook Alt0 or its derivatives, as they are, cannot not be reliably cited today. The fact in the sentence is res ipsa loquitur, but I can't find the news article that addressed this online today. I can show that Sinead O'Connor's achievement here, here and here, but cannot cite the lack of other women on the chart. --evrik (talk) 21:44, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: so what hook do you want to use? Yoninah (talk) 21:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Yoninah: Alt0 and Alt1a are my two preferred hooks. I reorganized the paragraph discussing gender equity and cited each fragment. I trust your judgement, and the hook you pick. I can keep looking for the news article discussing lack of women in the chart, but it may take me a day or two. --evrik (talk) 22:09, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: well, I am trying to find the ALT0 hook fact in one of the two sources, without success. Where is it? Yoninah (talk) 22:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Sinead O'Connor's achievement here, here. Nothing that says she is the only woman, unless you look at the chart itself. --evrik (talk) 22:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Evrik: so with the two sources you cite, someone has to look up every year in order to find O'Connor's name listed at the top only once? Can't you find a more straightforward source? Yoninah (talk) 23:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Gerhard Erber

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 12:09, 20 May 2020 (UTC).

  • There is probably something else that could be said about the subject, because right now the hook will not appeal to anyone who does not follow the German classical music scene. I don't think the typical reader would even know what the Gruppe Neue Musik Hanns Eisler is nor its significance, which means the hook doesn't give enough context as to what makes Erber and his career special. The article seems to show that he's had a long and recognized career: surely another hook could be proposed based on that instead? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:38, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
  • (This is a disclaimer that Narutolovehinata5 and I talked about this off-wiki, though all opinions in this comment are mine.) I think there are other things can be said about Erber. Let's look at it from the viewpoint of a random reader who knows nothing about Gruppe Neue Musik Hanns Eisler. Why should someone flipping through the main page care about Erber? Can the hook be reworded in such a way that it would be interesting to those who aren't fans of opera? epicgenius (talk) 14:44, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
    Please don't ask me because I want to make the Gruppe known ;) - Do you have an elegant way to say how unusual it was for them to tour in the West? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Neel Kolhatkar

5x expanded by Alink10273 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC).

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Red XN - n
  • Other problems: Green tickY

QPQ: ????
Overall: Symbol question.svg I'm not sure how interesting the hook would be to an international audience. Maybe include something about his "one-man musical based on a wannabe gangster from the Southern Sydney suburb of Kogarah, titled The KogDog!" (quoted from article) That may be more intriguing. Clemlivy aikensnaps (talk) 00:07, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

If it helps, I gave Alink10273 some hook suggestions at their talk page. — CR4ZE (T • C) 03:08, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Silver Line (MBTA)

  • Reviewed: WEBY
  • Comment: It's a stupid joke - Ted Williams was known for his hitting ability.

Improved to Good Article status by Pi.1415926535 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Lean more into the controversy. The hook as-is doesn't spark too much interest. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 11:28, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that a state representative called Boston's Silver Line buses racial discrimination, owing to their poor service compared to the light rail line they replaced?
ALT2 ... that although Boston's Silver Line was designed to quickly replace the Washington Street Elevated line, it took fifteen years for service to the area to resume?
ALT1 ... that the Silver Line's South Boston Piers Transitway was one of the most expensive bus rapid transit projects in the world?
@Pi.1415926535 and Vami IV: Any of these work? The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 00:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
I like Alt1 and Alt3. –♠Vami_IV†♠ 01:33, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
I'm okay with ALT1 or ALT3. ALT2 isn't really accurate - there was still bus service on route 49 from 1987 to 2002. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:38, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Susan Benesch

Created by Buidhe (talk). Self-nominated at 11:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC).

Laguna Creek watershed

Valley oak in the watershed
Valley oak in the watershed

Created by Evrik (talk). Self-nominated at 05:13, 13 May 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 14[edit]

Megacephalosaurus

Reconstructed skull of Megacephalosaurus
Reconstructed skull of Megacephalosaurus
  • ... that Megacephalosaurus (skull pictured) was one of the last known pliosaurs and coexisted with some of the earliest mosasaurs? Source #1:[70] "Megacephalosaurus eulerti is a large macropredatory plesiosaur representing one of the last members of the diverse pliosaurid clade Brachaucheninae." Source #2: [71] "Other previously reported taxa include... Megacephalosaurus eulerti... and plioplatecarpine mosasaurs." (In Discussion)

Improved to Good Article status by Macrophyseter (talk). Self-nominated at 21:28, 18 May 2020 (UTC).

Wells curve

The Wells curve
The Wells curve
  • ... that the Wells curve (pictured) explains the difference between respiratory droplet transmission and airborne transmission of respiratory diseases? Source: "This paradigm between droplet and airborne transmission has been underpinned by early studies by Wells, who described the settling of expelled particles as being a function of size, time and evaporation" [73]

Moved to mainspace by Rosieredfield (talk). Nominated by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) at 21:07, 21 May 2020 (UTC).

Leicester House, Westminster

Elizabeth Stuart
Elizabeth Stuart

Created by Moonraker (talk). Self-nominated at 07:19, 20 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Comment Nice article, but the hook should locate the house. And "ended her life" rather implies suicide, which I don't think was ever suspected. There are alternative hooks along the lines of "... that the bottom of the Q of B/Prince of Wales' garden is now in London's Chinatown/became a red light district?" Or "...that the Q of B was born in Scotland and died in Soho?" Johnbod (talk) 12:31, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • On “ended her life” I take your point, Johnbod, I was trying to find something more interesting to say than just she died. I don’t know of any rule that requires the hook to “locate the house”. This map says we are just outside Soho. Here are two Alts. On your first idea, you will see I am struggling with the word order. Moonraker (talk) 18:40, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Alt1 ... that London's Chinatown is now at the bottom of the garden of the last house of the Queen of Bohemia (pictured)?
    Source: see maps in article.
  • Alt2 ... that Elizabeth Stuart, Queen of Bohemia (pictured) was born at Dunfermline Palace in Scotland and died at Leicester House in England?
    Sources: (1) for place of birth M. Barbieri, Descriptive and Historical Gazetteer of the Counties of Fife, Kinross, and Clackmannan (1857), p. 157; (2) for place of death: Thomas Allen, The History and Antiquities of London, Westminster, Southwark, and Other Parts Adjacent, Volume 4 (1829), p. 299
Either of these better imo, though I find:

hookier. Anyway, time for a proper review, which I wasn't doing. Johnbod (talk) 14:06, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

I am not keen on Alt3, Johnbod, at the time London meant the City of London and strictly no more. Moonraker (talk) 11:53, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Johnbod (talk) 14:08, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Siamosaurus

Illustrated tooth of Siamosaurus
Illustrated tooth of Siamosaurus
  • ... that Siamosaurus, a large bipedal carnivore from the Early Cretaceous of Thailand, is the first spinosaurid (crocodile-like) dinosaur named from Asia? Source: "If future discoveries confirm this attribution, Siamosaurus suteethorni will be the first spinosaurid to be reported from Asia" (Buffetaut and Ingavat, 1986)[1] - "Later spinosaurids are characterized by significantly smaller and more numerous denticles (Baryonyx), or unserrated carinae (Spinosaurus), the Asian forms such as Siamosaurus suteethorni from the Early Cretaceous of Thailand" (Buffetaut, 2012) - "The Spinosauridae is an enigmatic clade of large and carnivorous theropods" & "the morphology of the skull and teeth in particular are similar to those of extant crocodilians" (Hone and Holtz, 2017)

Improved to Good Article status by PaleoGeekSquared (talk). Self-nominated at 13:06, 15 May 2020 (UTC).

  • starting review--Kevmin § 18:29, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Article GA expansion and status new enough. Hook is cited and sourced. no policy issues identified with the article. Neutral in tone. image is main page appropriate. However there are multiple citations that are either not defined or multiply defined and need sorting..--Kevmin § 22:48, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Buffetaut, E.; and Ingevat, R. (1986). Unusual theropod dinosaur teeth from the Upper Jurassic of Phu Wiang, northeastern Thailand. Rev. Paleobiol. 5: 217–220.

Ode to the Mets

Julian Casablancas
Julian Casablancas
  • Reviewed: 7 (New York City Subway service)
  • Comment: Image is only for ALT2-4 hooks if ALT0 or ALT1 don't make the cut. I can also try to find a better image if requested.

Converted from a redirect by Aria1561 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:42, 14 May 2020 (UTC).

Benefield Castle

  • ... that when Prince Edward's men, housed at Benefield Castle, stole cattle from villagers of Oundle, the villagers beat them back and recovered many of their beasts? [1]
  • Reviewed: No DYK credits yet, not reviewed any DYK

5x expanded by MistyGraceWhite (talk). Self-nominated at 12:38, 14 May 2020 (UTC).

References

  1. ^ Adkins, Sir William Ryland Dent; Serjeantson, R. M. (1930). The Victoria History of the County of Northampton. Constable.

CFVO-TV

  • ... that the board of directors of Canadian cooperative television station CFVO-TV rejected the resignation of its president so he could negotiate a loan? Source: [75]

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 06:33, 14 May 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 15[edit]

Isle of the Dead (Tasmania)

Isle of the Dead, Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia
Isle of the Dead, Port Arthur, Tasmania, Australia
  • that one of the earliest sea level benchmarks installed in the world and a convict cemetery remain preserved today on a tiny island in Tasmania called Isle of the Dead (pictured)? ([76][77])

Created/expanded by Southpaw20 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:35, 26 May 2020 (UTC).

Seraph Young Ford

Seraph Young Ford, 1902
Seraph Young Ford, 1902
  • ... that Seraph Young Ford (pictured) was the first American woman to cast a vote under a women's equal suffrage law?
    No hook was supplied, so I added an image and my suggested hook. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:44, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Created/expanded by Historian1896 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:08, 22 May 2020 (UTC).

Lycian Way

  • ... that the 1999-opened Lycian Way, an over 500 km (310 mi)-long hiking trail in southwestern Turkey, was conceived by British Kate Clow? Source: "The best guidebook is probably the one written by Kate Clow, the British expat who marked the ancient road together and discovered the Lycian Way.", "This route was opened in 1999 ...", "The 540 kilometer Lycian Way, ..." [78]

5x expanded by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 12:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC).

Moncef Slaoui

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 07:58, 16 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough (15 May), long enough (by a lot), neutral, cites sources, passes Earwig and eye tests for plagiarism (Earwig found two major hits, but based on the dates, it's clear those sites copied this page, not the other way around).
Hook is interesting and cited, but I would change "is leading" to "is one of the leaders of", as the person that's "leading" the effort is Kushner, and Slaoui is a senior advisor. Please let me know if ALT1 below works for you.
ALT1 ... that former GlaxoSmithKline executive Moncef Slaoui is one of the leaders of Operation Warp Speed, which aims to deliver 300 million doses of a vaccine for COVID-19 by January 2021?
QPQ present. No image. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:24, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
Excellent. No issue whatsoever inre Alt1. Cheers! Kingoflettuce (talk) 09:23, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

The Lot (album)

  • ... that Roger Taylor's 2013 album The Lot had to be re-released the following year because of a series of mistakes with the tracks? Source: [79]
  • Comment: Created as draft April 30, moved to mainspace May 15

Created by Pupsterlove02 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:14, 15 May 2020 (UTC).

Flag of Ulster

flag of Ulster
flag of Ulster
  • ... that the Flag of Ulster (pictured) is supposed to have come about from a cross of saracen blood given by Richard the Lionheart and a bloody red hand cut off to claim a kingdom? Source: Fortress Britain: All the Invasions and Incursions since 1066. The History Press. p. 20. ISBN 0752497170. (cross) Carnigie Council (hand)

5x expanded by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 08:03, 15 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg DYKcheck tells me that it has not been 5x expanded. buidhe 05:58, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Buidhe: Are you sure because the bot might be including the table? Before I did the expansion, it worked out I needed 3,000 characters for a 5x expansion, which I specifically checked I had done. How much more do I need to add? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:01, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • The C of E, The article had 1866 readable prose characters in November 2018, so to be a 5x expansion it should be at least 9330 characters. buidhe 06:09, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Buidhe: No, it had 587 characters at the start of expansion so 2,935 was needed for expansion, which has been done. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:18, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Buidhe: You're correct. Rule A4 of DYKSG states that "Fivefold expansion is calculated from the previously existing article, no matter how bad it was (copyvios are an exception), no matter whether you kept any of it and no matter if it were up for deletion." The number of characters in the version at the start of expansion is thus irrelevant, because that version is not the "previously existing article". —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:28, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • But the previous existing article was the one I started from as I interpret "previously existing article" to mean the version that existed before the expansion, not one that was deleted nearly 2 years ago. Its not as if I blanked a load of rubbish and started from there. I didn't even know about this revision that existed almost 2 years ago, that version is not valid. That rule was clearly designed to stop people removing a load of unsourced material and rewriting it, not to penalise people who in good faith made the expansion based upon the version that had stood for at least a year. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 20:34, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Ignorance of a previous revision is not an excuse. It's not for you to decide which version is valid and which one isn't – the rules make it clear what constitutes the "previously existing article" (and I'm sure @BlueMoonset: would agree with Buidhe and myself). And no, blanking "a load of rubbish and start[ing] from there" would not be acceptable either – that "load of rubbish" would have to be included in the calculation of a 5× expansion. —Bloom6132 (talk) 20:59, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Which i didn't do . Equally that wording is vague because it doesn't specify which version. I interpret it to mean that which existed at the point of the new expansion without artificial interferance from the editor. Plus I've had this happen before and its been permitted to continue. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 21:20, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Just because this has incorrectly been allowed to happen before does not mean that bad precedent should be allowed to continue today. There are established rules, and Buidhe has interpreted those rules objectively and correctly here. —Bloom6132 (talk) 21:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Then I suggest you rewrite the rule because at the moment, it seems to only be against blanking stuff and rewriting. I'd prefer to take it to WT:DYK. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 21:50, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 16[edit]

The Sky Is Pink

Improved to Good Article status by Krish! (talk). Self-nominated at 07:10, 23 May 2020 (UTC).

  • While the full review could probably be left to someone else, I wonder if alternate hooks could be proposed because I'm not sure if the hook would appeal to non-Bollywood audiences or those unfamiliar with Chopra (I understand that this hook will probably appeal to the Indian subcontinent, but Wikipedia is an international website and we're writing not just for Indians). Perhaps a hook about how the song used for promoting the film wasn't actually used in the final cut might work better? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 11:59, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Grace Hoffman

  • Reviewed: to come

Created by LouisAlain (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 22:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC).

  • {{doing}} Beginning review now. This may take several hours. @Gerda Arendt: QPQ fulfilled yet? Zingarese talk · contribs 16:24, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
    • Symbol question.svg Everything looks good - I just couldn't find anything in any of the sources detailing her cause of death. Unless my German failed me please add a citation supporting that detail. Also, how are you on terms of QPQ? Let me know and i'll approve. Zingarese talk ·

contribs 03:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

The Generation: The Rise and Fall of the Jewish Communists of Poland

Created by Piotrus (talk). Self-nominated at 04:49, 18 May 2020 (UTC).

  • I've found that book hooks are best when they are a pun on the title. Maybe something like
  • ALT2... that a Generation of Polish Jews joined the Communist movement, but were betrayed after the war?
  • This would require some additions to the article. buidhe 04:54, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • @Buidhe: I'd be a bit careful with this pun, as while the author himself uses it, they are also careful to note that only a small part of said generation did this; most Polish Jews of that time generally supported socialist or Zionist parties. Mahybe add "a part of" or "some" in front of your hook? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:05, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
  • ALT2b... that part of a Generation of Polish Jews joined the Communist movement, but were betrayed after the war?
  • ALT3... that part of a Generation of Polish Jews became Communists, leading to accusations that they "masterminded the enslavement" of their country?
I like ALT3 best. buidhe 05:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
@Buidhe: I think 2b and 3 are fine, I'd just add links to related concepts present in my original hooks. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:23, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Mark Ibn Kunbar

  • Comment: my first submission, let me know if I missed some instruction.

Created by Awsomaw (talk). Self-nominated at 16:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC).

Constance Sladen

  • Comment: This is my first attempt at a DYK, feedback gratefully received.

Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Self-nominated at 09:41, 17 May 2020 (UTC).

1925 FA Cup Final

  • Reviewed: Pending

Improved to Good Article status by Kosack (talk). Self-nominated at 07:16, 17 May 2020 (UTC).

Pinning ceremony

Pinning ceremony at Nazareth College in New York
Pinning ceremony at Nazareth College in New York

5x expanded by Michael Barera (talk). Self-nominated at 00:13, 17 May 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 17[edit]

AGM-183A ARRW

AGM-183A carried by a B-52 during a 2019 test
AGM-183A carried by a B-52 during a 2019 test
  • ... that the United States' announced Super-Duper Missile has been theorized to be the AGM-183A air launched rapid response weapon (pictured)?

Created by Chetsford (talk). Self-nominated at 08:04, 17 May 2020 (UTC).

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Green tickY
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Pooper scooper Hawkeye7 (discuss) 22:05, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

Coming here from the AfD, which I discovered through ITN. Whatever happens to it eventually, we should hold this until after the AfD discussion closes. StudiesWorld (talk) 15:49, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Agreed! It would be best to put this on ice until the discussion closes. Chetsford (talk) 16:44, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
On hold until discussion closes. We do this all the time. See Wikipedia:Did you know/Supplementary guidelines, rule D5: Articles nominated for deletion must go on hold until they have survived the deletion process. Note that it was not nominated when it was reviewed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:36, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Chetsford, Hawkeye7, the AfD was closed as "keep but rename", so I have made the necessary adjustments to this template to reflect the article move (but the template itself should not be moved). However, the hook as written no longer works and has been struck; a new ALT will need to be provided. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:57, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

SiIvaGunner

  • ... that YouTube channel SiIvaGunner uploads videos claiming to be video game soundtracks which are actually remixes?

Created by OmegaFallon (talk). Self-nominated at 20:08, 23 May 2020 (UTC).

The Masked Singer (American TV series)

  • ... that to prevent spoilers, the name of the American reality singing competition television series The Masked Singer is not listed on its contracts with celebrities competing on the show? Source: "The initial talent contract will have the celebrity's real name, but does not include the show name, The Masked Singer, just in case something leaks." [81]

Improved to Good Article status by Heartfox (talk). Self-nominated at 21:32, 17 May 2020 (UTC).

Shashi Tharoor's Oxford Union speech

Shashi Tharoor
Shashi Tharoor

Created by DiplomatTesterMan (talk). Self-nominated at 11:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC).

The Oxford Union debating chamber
The Oxford Union debating chamber
  • Alternate image on right. DTM (talk) 11:22, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 18[edit]

Hakkōda Mountains

The Hakkōda Mountains as seen in the winter
The Hakkōda Mountains as seen in the winter

5x expanded by Mccunicano (talk). Self-nominated at 08:11, 25 May 2020 (UTC).

Wakanui, ANZCO Foods

Wakanui feedlot drone footage

Source: "Minister of Agriculture Damien O'Connor also launched a scathing attack, saying New Zealand would be crippled if it listened to everything SAFE said. ... 'Clearly the image of pastoral farming is the one New Zealand promotes and it is the mainstay of our industry.' "Radio New Zealand

  • Reviewed: Seattle Center Monorail & Troy Collings
  • Comment: It's not often that you have a good and interesting video with a new article but I got lucky and got my hands onto some drone footage. Very impressive and so not-New Zealand. I wasn't sure whether to use "(pictured)" when a video is used; please tweak it if I've got it wrong.

Created by Schwede66 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:22, 23 May 2020 (UTC).

  • I've just written an article for the company that owns the feedlot and have added that to this nomination. Schwede66 23:02, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

Prometheus (Orozco)

Prometheus (1930)
Prometheus (1930)

Created by Sdkb (talk). Self-nominated at 01:14, 20 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New, long, and neutral enough. Well-written & referenced. Hook checks out & Earwig finds nothing. No QPQ needed. Unfortunately, I'm not sure about the picture licence for main page. I'd question whether a wall-painting in a fairly public place in the US can be described as "it was first published outside the United States". I wouold have thought the painting was the publishing - if not, then what was? Copyright specialist needed. Otherwise GTG, but I'll query it for the pic. Johnbod (talk) 12:39, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

WIZF

  • ... that in a promotional stunt, staff at Cincinnati-area radio station WIZF demanded a 40 percent raise, which turned out to refer to an unauthorized technical boost? Source: p 3/50, [84]

5x expanded by Raymie (talk). Self-nominated at 07:20, 19 May 2020 (UTC).

List of Dia Art Foundation locations and sites

Moved to mainspace by Found5dollar (talk). Self-nominated at 19:34, 18 May 2020 (UTC).

Gaoshi Shrine

Gaoshi Shrine
Gaoshi Shrine
  • ... that Gaoshi Shrine (pictured) is the first Shinto shrine constructed in Taiwan after the island's Japanese rule? Source: [86]: "2015年重建，是台灣戰後第一座供奉神祇的神社"; literal translation of quoted sentence: "Reconstructed in 2015, [Gaoshi Shrine] is Taiwan's first Shinto Shrine after World War II." Japan's colonial rule over Taiwan ended after World War II.
    • ALT1:... that Gaoshi Shrine (pictured) is the first Shinto shrine constructed in Taiwan after World War II?

Created by Ganbaruby (talk). Self-nominated at 13:11, 18 May 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 19[edit]

William Frederick Windham

Title page of The Great Lunacy Case of Mr. W. F. Windham (1862)
Title page of The Great Lunacy Case of Mr. W. F. Windham (1862)
  • ... that in 1861-62, William Frederick Windham was the subject of the longest and most expensive "lunacy" case in English history?
    • ALT1:... that ...?
  • Reviewed: Olivia Dahl
  • Comment: Still got some tidying to do

5x expanded by Philafrenzy (talk) and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 09:44, 26 May 2020 (UTC).

1929–1930 Psittacosis Pandemic

Amazon parrot
Amazon parrot
  • Reviewed: To be done

5x expanded by Whispyhistory (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Philafrenzy (talk) at 16:59, 24 May 2020 (UTC).

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Green tickY
  • Interesting: Green tickY
  • Other problems: Red XN - n
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol question.svg The hook states the pandemic killed more than 100 people whereas the lead section says 750-800 globally Clemlivy aikensnaps (talk) 23:40, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Clemlivy aikensnaps:...I'll do some more work on it and ping back. Give me some time if ok. Will sort QPQ soon too. Thank you for reviewing. Whispyhistory (talk) 15:35, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

Mexican music in Chile

María José Quintanilla, a Chilean singer of Mexican music
María José Quintanilla, a Chilean singer of Mexican music
  • "...the corrido danzado, with or without poetic text, to the extreme that its national dispersion [in Chile] is today on par with that of the cueca, and that it is more intensely played than cueca, proof of which is that it is played in the Fiestas Patrias of September 18 in many localities of Chile." [87]
  • "The Chileans who live in southern part of the country have incorporated Mexican music as part of their culture many decades ago" [88]
  • "[The corridos] national dispersion [in Chile] is today on par with that of the cueca" [89]
  • "the people who like Mexican music is mostly from the south [of Chile]" (Montoya & Díaz, 2017, p. 15)
  • "one can apreciate today the attachment of cinema and folk music of Mexico in the lower classes, in particular those of the rural world" [90],

Created by Dentren (talk). Self-nominated at 07:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 20[edit]

Rupert Bunny

Rupert Bunny self-portrait
Rupert Bunny self-portrait
  • ... that the French state acquired 13 of Rupert Bunny's (self-portrait pictured) works for French museums? (agnsw)
    • ALT1:... that Rupert Bunny (self-portrait pictured) gained an honourable mention at the Paris Salon of 1890 with his painting Tritons? (agnsw)

5x expanded by Alice Batt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:53, 21 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Hi, thanks for working on this article. At the moment, substantial chunks of it do not have any obvious citations, thereby failing WP:V. This will need to be fixed before the article can be featured at DYK. Vanamonde (Talk) 03:46, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Senti Virus

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 18:09, 20 May 2020 (UTC).

Happiness Curriculum

A student defining "Happiness" during a Happiness Class
A student defining "Happiness" during a Happiness Class
Students during a Happiness Class
Students during a Happiness Class


Created by Richasg06 (talk) and KCVelaga (talk). Nominated by KCVelaga (talk) at 21:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on May 21[edit]

Thomas Lucas (shorthand)

Created by E bruton (talk). Self-nominated at 15:09, 26 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New, long enough, passes Earwig & within policy. I've tightened up hook a wee bit - it's from online source & is good. No QPQ necessary yet as nominator is new to DYK. Zeromonk (talk) 11:42, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this and did extensive wikifying and cleanup; please see the page history. There is one paragraph that lacks any cites, per Rule D2. Yoninah (talk) 21:32, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Başakşehir Çam and Sakura City Hospital

Created by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 19:03, 28 May 2020 (UTC).

Barracuda Lounge

  • ... that Barracuda is home to the longest-running bar show in New York City, which may have inspired RuPaul's Drag Race? Source 1: "... 'Star Search,' a weekly competition at Barracuda that preceded RuPaul's Drag Race by more than 15 years and probably served as one of its inspirations." ([96]) / Source 2: "'Star Search is the longest-running bar night in New York,' says Pontarelli." ([97])
    • ALT1:... that a long-running drag show at Barracuda may have inspired RuPaul's Drag Race? Source: "... 'Star Search,' a weekly competition at Barracuda that preceded RuPaul's Drag Race by more than 15 years and probably served as one of its inspirations." ([98])
    • ALT2:... that Barracuda is home to the longest-running bar show in New York City? Source 1: "'Star Search is the longest-running bar night in New York,' says Pontarelli." ([99]) / Source 2: "Candis: Star Search was pretty major at Barracuda. / Sherry: It's the longest-running night in New York City. It's literally 25 years old. ([100])
    • ALT3:... that Miz Cracker, Peppermint and Bob the Drag Queen all worked at Barracuda before appearing on RuPaul's Drag Race? Source 1: "Barracuda also kickstarted the careers of drag legends like Candice Cane, Jackie Beat, Peppermint and more." ([101]) / Source 2: "Some of the biggest and best names have come through Barracuda — Jackie Beat, Sherry Vine, Peppermint, Tina Burner, Candis Cayne, Shasta Cola, Mona Foot, Bob the Drag Queen — I can go on and on." ([102]) / Source 3: "[Barracuda] gave me one of my first big drag gigs." (Podcast interview with Miz Cracker @ 09:25)

Created by Armadillopteryx (talk). Self-nominated at 04:20, 23 May 2020 (UTC).

Coal in Turkey

  • ... that coal in Turkey fuelled the first submarine in history to fire a torpedo while submerged? Source: "The first submarine in history to fire a torpedo while submerged ..... joined the Ottoman Navy in .... 1888." The First Barrow Submarines
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Improved to Good Article status by Chidgk1 (talk). Self-nominated at 07:23, 22 May 2020 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New GA, and everything checks out, including the hook, which is a pretty good one. No QPQ done, do you have an exemption from that, Chidgk1? Moonraker (talk) 04:39, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
This would be my third DYK so if I understand right I have not reached the free limit yet. Chidgk1 (talk) 10:42, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg As no QPQ is needed, ready to go. Moonraker (talk) 12:05, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Rockwell A. Schnabel

5x expanded by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk). Self-nominated at 23:56, 21 May 2020 (UTC).

Ed Warren (politician)

Created by Jon698 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC).

Zack Snyder's Justice League

Created by TheJoebro64 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC).

I'd change original cut to director's cut, since new stuff could be recorded or filmed, and it could be rearranged as a miniseries. El Millo (talk) 23:58, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Facu-el Millo, done JOEBRO64 00:19, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Gaja Baja

  • ... that Film Development Board of Nepal rejected Gaja Baja to be produced as the title contained the word marijuana? Source: What’s in a name? "In a ridiculous decision, the Film Development Board (FDB) of Nepal has withheld the approval of upcoming movie Gajabaja"

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 19:45, 21 May 2020 (UTC).

Aama (2020 film)

Created by CAPTAIN MEDUSA (talk). Self-nominated at 15:26, 21 May 2020 (UTC).

Landis's Battery

Created by Hog Farm (talk). Self-nominated at 02:31, 21 May 2020 (UTC).

  • @Hog Farm:, I would work on the hooks. They don't do the article justice. --evrik (talk) 03:44, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on May 22[edit]

James A. Baker (born 1857)

  • ... that James A. Baker successfully defended the trust fund which established Rice University? Source:”It was Captain Baker who won renown as a personal attorney and friend of William Marsh Rice and who represented Rice’s estate ... in the litigation concerning the disposition of Rice’s fortune (over $5 million) and the establishment of the Rice Institute.” [103] (page 10).
    • ALT1:... that James A. Baker helped to reveal the murder conspiracy against cotton magnate William Marsh Rice? Source:” Baker, as an executor of the will, was instrumental in proving that Rice had been murdered and that a second will, leaving the bulk of Rice's estate to Albert Patrick, was forged.”

Improved to Good Article status on May 22 May 2020 by Oldsanfelipe2 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC).

Kigali

  • ... that the annual film festival in Kigali is known as "Hillywood"? Source: Bradt Travel Guide: "the Rwanda Film Festival (w rwandafilmfestival.net) or Hillywood, as it's often known, builds pop-up theatres and takes over existing venues around Kigali and around the country every July"
    • ALT1:... that ...? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)

Improved to Good Article status by Amakuru (talk). Self-nominated at 10:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC).

QPQ done: Template:Did you know nominations/Jagdschloss Kranichstein.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:52, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Zara Abid

  • (