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List of DYK Hooks by Date
Date # of Hooks # Verified
July 18 1
July 24 1
July 25 1
August 14 1
August 16 1
August 18 1
August 21 1
August 26 1
September 3 2
September 6 2
September 7 1
September 9 1
September 10 2
September 11 1
September 13 2
September 14 1
September 17 1
September 18 1
September 19 2
September 20 1
September 21 2
September 22 3 1
September 23 3
September 24 1
September 25 6 1
September 26 5
September 27 11 3
September 28 3 1
September 29 2
October 1 10 2
October 2 3
October 3 7 3
October 4 8 2
October 5 9 3
October 6 9 3
October 7 12 2
October 8 10 5
October 9 10 4
October 10 13 4
October 11 14 4
October 12 13 6
October 13 7 5
October 14 16 5
October 15 21 6
October 16 13 8
October 17 13 5
October 18 16 4
October 19 14 8
October 20 11 4
October 21 11 2
October 22 8 2
Total 309 93
Last updated 19:49, October 22, 2015 (UTC)
Current time is 19:53, October 22, 2015 UTC (purge)

Instructions for nominators[edit]

Create a subpage for your new DYK suggestion and then list the page below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the bottom. Any registered user may nominate a DYK suggestion (if you are not a registered user, please leave a message at the bottom of the DYK project talk page with the details of the article you would like to nominate and the hook you would like to propose); self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination (consider watchlisting your nomination page).

If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing:
Official DYK criteria: DYK rules and supplementary guidelines
Unofficial guide: Learning DYK

To nominate an article[edit]

Read these instructions completely before proceeding.

For simplified instructions, see User:Rjanag/Quick DYK 2.

I.
Create the nomination subpage.

Enter the article title in the box below and click the button. (To nominate multiple articles together, enter any or all of the article titles.) You will then be taken to a preloaded nomination page.


II.
Write the nomination.

On the nomination page, fill in the relevant information. See Template:NewDYKnomination and {{NewDYKnomination/guide}} for further information.

  • Not every line of the template needs to be filled in. For instance, if you are not nominating an image to appear with your hook, there is no need to fill in the image-related lines.
  • Add an edit summary e,g, "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Make sure the nomination page is on your watchlist, so you can follow the review discussion.
III.
Post at Template talk:Did you know.

In the current nominations section find the subsection for the date on which the article was created or on which expansion began, not the date on which you make the nomination.

  • At the top of that subsection (before other nominations already there, but below the section head and hidden comment) add {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}}.
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Nominating YOUR ARTICLE TITLE for DYK" and click Save page.
  • Consider adding {{Did you know nominations/YOUR ARTICLE TITLE}} to the article's talk page (without a section heading—​the template adds a section heading automatically).

How to review a nomination[edit]

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Frequently asked questions[edit]

Backlogged?[edit]

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first (so that those hooks don't grow stale), it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions above).

Where is my hook?[edit]

If you can't find the hook you submitted to this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is in the queue for display on the main page. You can check whether your hook has been moved to the queue by reviewing the queue listings.

If your hook is not in the queue or already on the main page, it has probably been deleted. Deletion occurs if the hook is more than about eight days old and has unresolved issues for which any discussion has gone stale. If you think your hook has been unfairly deleted, you can query its deletion on the discussion page, but as a general rule deleted hooks will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Search archived DYK nomination discussions[edit]

Instructions for other editors[edit]

How to promote an accepted hook[edit]

  • See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
  • In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote. In another window, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.
  • In the prep set...
  • Paste the hook into the hook area
  • Paste the credit information ({{DYKmake}} and/or {{DYKnom}}) into the credits area.
  • Back on DYK nomination page...
  • change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
  • change |passed= to |passed=yes
  • Add an edit summary e.g. "Promoted to Prep 3", and save.

How to remove a rejected hook[edit]

  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue[edit]

  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there is usually a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Leave a comment explaining that the hook was removed from the queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
    • If the day title for the section that contained the hook has been removed from this page, restore that section.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
  • Add a link to the nomination subpage at Wikipedia:Did you know/Removed

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name[edit]

  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations[edit]

Older nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on July 18[edit]

Maria of Bosnia

Created by Surtsicna (talk). Self-nominated at 11:46, 21 July 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough and long enough. AGF on offline source in a language that I do not know (just a query: Why is the title of this book initially in German and then in Bosnian?). Article is well sourced, including on the hooks, although only having one source (page numbers/quotations for each inline would help, but not essential for being on DYK). QPQ done. '''tAD''' (talk) 22:52, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The first hook is great, but the article is sourced to only one source, which could lead to a question of notability. Isn't anything more written about her? Yoninah (talk) 23:38, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
There is much more[1] but in German, which I don't speak. If I understand correctly, a single source is far from ideal but not an insurmountable issue. Surtsicna (talk) 10:53, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
  • It's my understanding, per Rule D12, that a single source may be sufficient for an obscure topic such as an extinct species, but not for a biography. Perhaps you could get some help from a German editor? Yoninah (talk) 11:57, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I would contend that a 15th century countess is a rather obscure topic as well. An English language genealogy website (generally considered reputable) has some info about her. Would that help? The cited source is the only comprehensive biography of the subject. Surtsicna (talk) 15:32, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I did a bunch of online searches, and I see your dilemma. However, since you have most of her biography down, I think you should access one or two of those German sources using Google Translate, to add a few more cites. The genealogy website doesn't look like a reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoninah (talkcontribs) 00:10, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Surtsicna: - have you managed to get any further with this? Prioryman (talk) 11:13, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Side note: there's rather more sources when you look for "Ulrich V" Helfenstein Maria. Additional note: you can also go by WP:RD/H and beg for some help with the German.
    Now, that said, it's my understanding, per what Rule D12 actually says, that a single source is insufficient for a biography of a living person who might sue or be damaged by inappropriate treatment. D12 has nothing whatsoever to do with notability, but countesses count anyway and she's plenty notable—as noted—in German. The lack of English information is just a side effect of some WP:BIAS. There's no problem here. Genealogy websites, on the other hand, are not in any way, shape, or form a reliable source. Per The Almightey Drill, this should be good to go but leave me a note on my talk page if you need another set of eyes first. — LlywelynII 09:12, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg What kind of source is being used here? This looks like a thesis.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Almost, it's a conference paper. The source (in Bosnian, with an English abstract and summary) can be found here. Fuebaey (talk) 18:21, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • And did the conference paper go through peer review? WP:SCHOLARSHIP emphasises the need for peer review for a source to be reliable. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 23:13, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Just an innocent bystander here, but according to these guidelines from the publication's website (and Google Translate) it does appear that submissions are peer reviewed. The article seems to have been initially presented at a university department roundtable but later published in this journal. Nsteffel (talk) 20:41, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
I have been terribly busy lately, but I am not sure I have much to add anyway. If the source is deemed reliable, and DYK rules do not require more sources in this case, the situation is as simple as it can be. If it is necessary to add aditional (German-language) citations verifying basic facts such as her existance/name, country of origin, name of her husband, possibly year of death, I suppose can do that despite not speaking German. I honestly do not see the point of using redundant lower grade sources other than to formally satisfy a requirement. The article does not have the potential to reach GA status, but it is DYK material. Surtsicna (talk) 22:44, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • It strikes me that if someone died over 600 years ago but is still being written about, they are clearly notable. The thesis also refers to a 16th century historian who studied her. However, I would want a clear description of the (one) currently cited source before this nom went any further (i.e. if it was published in an academic journal then what, where, when?). The ALT1 hook seems far better, less ambiguous and more interesting. Sionk (talk) 09:51, 18 October 2015 (UTC)







Articles created/expanded on July 24[edit]

Safeword (game show)

  • ... that game show Safeword involves celebrities berating each other in order to avoid ejection?

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 01:05, 24 July 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article is new (2 days old), long enough at 1865 characters of prose, and there are no copyvio problems. The main problem I have is that most of the content is cited to the TV episode itself, which is a bit weak. I'd prefer a synopsis of the programme or a feature on it, such as the Radio Times or ITV's own website, particularly for the key word "berating" in the hook (and ejection from what exactly?) Without that, the article does give the impression of being "stretched" to meet the 1500 character limit. Can you find better sources for the show? Also, "roasting" could do with a link to roast (comedy) as I'm not sure everyone (particularly Brits) are familiar with the term outside of what happens to chicken and beef in an oven. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:43, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
I would assume most Brits are familiar with the term (I'm a Brit myself) but I've added a link. Neither the Radio Times nor ITV go into that much detail on it, but UKGameshows.com (as linked in External links) has an article on it. Their Weaver's Week column will probably cover that sort of detail, though they pledged to review Hive Minds in next week's issue and I doubt they'll do two reviews in a week. Nonetheless, I've fixed most of the other issues. (Disgusted to see that this article is apparently the only article on the web to give round names.)--Launchballer 11:20, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg A QPQ is needed for this nomination. Yoninah (talk) 22:06, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done--Launchballer 01:01, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
  • I think that the "Within policy" criteria on the QPQ need to be addressed before it can be considered "done". BlueMoonset (talk) 01:55, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Is that better?--Launchballer 10:08, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Pinging original reviewer Ritchie333. ~ RobTalk 17:36, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
@Launchballer: Sorry to be a pain in the proverbial, but what makes UKgameshows.com a reliable source? Also, how can I verify the information cited to the TV show itself when it's been and gone from the airwaves? (I'm not saying you're lying or anything, but mistakes can be made). Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 14:49, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
I'd rather be interrogated now than have the hook returned. Safeword airs 10pm on Thursdays or you can use ITV player, though I'm uneasy about providing a link because most broadcasters only hold shows on their servers for so long. UKGameshows.com is primarily edited by David J. Bodycombe, a man who has 25 years experience in the field of gameshows and was responsible for bringing the nation The Crystal Maze. I consider him a reliable source.--Launchballer 17:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, I've dropped this on the floor. Do you still want me to look over this or shall we get another reviewer on it? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:37, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
Oops. Yes, please do so.--Launchballer 22:21, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg Right, I've picked this up again. I'm happy to AGF that the video is an official source that can satisfy everything in the article is verifiable, but could I ask a quick favour and cite the specific times in the video each claim occurs (not for the general concept, I get that from just a cursory look, just the round names, "a swift and nasty exit", and rules specifics. Then I think we will be good to go. Sorry about the wait. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:21, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

I no longer have a copy of that episode, so I've just replaced it with its UKGameshows.com entry which covers all the bases.--Launchballer 17:45, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I think we're going round in circles. Really sorry about the wait, but I think somebody else has to have a look at this. Just to confirm, I think the main problem is the article itself and its verifiability generally, rather than anything specifically to do with the hook. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:56, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough, long enough, and what isn't cited is easily verifable. Hook which is catchy and cited. The article is neutral and free from copyright issues. And here, hopefully, ends the debate. FrogmanOfTheSahara (talk) 06:19, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Under the circumstances, I think we need to supersede the approval, given the issues with this new reviewer's previous DYK reviews, as discussed at WT:DYK. This needs an experienced reviewer who is familiar with sourcing issues. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:50, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg I don't think there is anything wrong with using the show a the source for the description of the gameplay as this is the equivalent of using a film or TV programme as the source for the plot, but you have made it quite confusing by citing the UK Gameshows article as the source repeatedly in this section when most of the information (I guess) still comes from the show itself. The remaining sourcing problem is that there are no sources to indicate the broadcasting details; this does need clearing up before this nom can be passed. There also seem to be a lot more sources available (from extensive research I've done by typing "safeword ITV" into Google; go me, Queen of Research! ) Other non-DYK problems: "roulette" is not right, "carousel" could be but I haven't seen the show so I can't say for certain; there's no indication in the episode list of which of the guests were the targets; and it is unclear if the seven episodes are the complete series. Belle (talk) 08:10, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

I replaced the episode source with the UKGameshows.com source because ITV take stuff off ITV player after four weeks. (Had I looked, I would have found many of the episodes are routinely repeated...) The rest of the information is offered here, which I'll add in.--Launchballer 14:29, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm not entirely sure what makes a "Created and run by fans for fans" site like www.comedy.co.uk a reliable source for the episode info, but as that information hasn't been added in yet the point isn't (yet) germane. Since that site does have an article that states it's a "seven-part series", I imagine that information is available elsewhere as it looks like a press-release reprint. Belle, further thoughts on what needs to be included and whether comedy.co.uk would be a sufficiently reliable source? BlueMoonset (talk) 18:10, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Copied from the same page: "The BCG is owned and run by founder Mark and co-editor Aaron, who heads up all archive comedy coverage. However, they do not work alone, valuing the assistance of a group of regular volunteer contributors, lead by Ian, the main curator of our TV & radio schedule." That's good enough for me.--Launchballer 19:31, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Volunteer contributors would seem to indicate the source is not reliable. ~ RobTalk 20:26, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Is this better?--Launchballer 20:49, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
For the citing the fact there were seven episodes, yes, but the broadcast details aren't in there. Belle (talk) 22:12, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
I've added references to the dead ITV player links.--Launchballer 18:02, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to check the outstanding issues; Belle hasn't edited in two weeks, and may not be able to get back to this review. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:34, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Two and half months down the line this nomination seems to be going nowhere, mainly because the article is inadequately sourced to reliable secondary coverage about the programme. One news article does not make a TV programme on a minor TV channel notable. The page is almost entirely unsourced at the moment, suggesting it is more of a fan page than an encylopedic article. I notice there is an edit dispute currently, with an IP editor removing all of the primary sources. The hook is poor too, it should at least say "British television game show" or even "ITV2 game show", but that is minor in comparison with the major unresolved issues with the article itself. Sionk (talk) 10:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Many of my game show articles have had the same treatment, using inappropriate guidelines. I'll let this one slide but I'm going to have to do something about this systematic assault on my articles.--Launchballer 12:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
DYK guidelines (and WP:GNG for that matter) are pretty unambiguous about what is required. If you've experienced similar problems with other nominations then surely you should make sure they meet DYK guidelines before you raise them for closer scrutiny. Sionk (talk) 12:13, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I meant having the primary sources removed; DYK requires the existence of a source at the end of each paragraph, and the sources keep being removed.--Launchballer 12:17, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
You may have a point. But if there were sufficient independent secondary sources maybe it wouldn't be seen as such a major issue. Sionk (talk) 13:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I've readded the UKGameshows source and added a couple of other sources. I'll have another look once I've finished this post.--Launchballer 18:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
UKGameshows is a wiki, about as (un)reliable as Wikipedia. Someone has already added this Wikpedia article to its links! Sionk (talk) 21:22, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
It's not a freely editable wiki like this one. Copied from above: "UKGameshows.com is primarily edited by David J. Bodycombe, a man who has 25 years experience in the field of gameshows and was responsible for bringing the nation The Crystal Maze. I consider him a reliable source." I did check YouTube to see if any of the episodes were there - the first episode, the one first used to source the article is there - would you rather I used that?--Launchballer 05:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on July 25[edit]

Supplication of Abu Hamza al-Thumali

Created by Saff V. (talk). Self-nominated at 15:24, 26 July 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg new enough, long enough, inline citations and refs checks as well. Good to go. I suggest using the original hook.--BabbaQ (talk) 23:08, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg There's currently no in-line citation on the fact that Zayn al-Abidin narrates the Dua, which is required by DYK criteria. ~ RobTalk 15:51, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @BU Rob13:There are several in-linecitation in the article that indicate the hook is correct (Ref 1,2,3,and 4).Saff V. (talk) 08:39, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Saff V.: The only mention of Zayn al-Abidin in the article is in the first sentence of the section "The narrator", and this sentence does not have an in-line cite. The DYK criteria requires an in-line cite no later than the end of the sentence that contains the hook fact. Also, now that I'm looking at this more closely, the article appears to say in the lead that Abu Hamza al-Thumali narrated this Dua, which would contradict the hook fact. This apparent contradiction would need to be resolved before this hook runs (or the hook updated, if you intended for al-Thumali to be in the hook). ~ RobTalk 10:07, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @BU Rob13:You nominated two issues. The first is unclear for me. Is it your mean :"there is no source to establish the Zayn al-Abidin is a narrator of supplication? If your answer is yes, I try to find reliable source but we can use ALT1 as hook. Is not it? Abot the apparent contradiction, you are right. For first time, Zayn al-Abidin read this supplication, then Abu Hamza learnt it from Imam and conveyed to other. So my question is that who is the narrator?Imam or Abu hamza.Can you clear to me the meaning of narrator!Saff V. (talk) 08:24, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
  • It doesn't necessarily have to do with whether you have a source that supports it, just that the information doesn't appear in the article with an in-line citation. If you wanted to do the narrator hook, you would need to put that fact in the article and provide a source that supports it at the end of the sentence where you put the fact. As for ALT1, the fact that Zayn al-Abidin invocated it is in the article and cited, but you would need to add the fact that he was the fourth Shia Imam to the article with a cite. ~ RobTalk 10:19, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @BU Rob13:Can you clear to the meaning of in-line citation? What would I do to resolve the problem? If I put the source after the fact, the problem is solved or not? Do I nominated to the hook in another place of the article except of lead? Please check the recent changes. Thanks!Saff V. (talk) 12:41, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg In-line citation means the numbered citations in the article (i.e. the numbered references that are "in-line" with the text). With the recent changes, ALT 1 is good to go. AGF on the foreign language source with regards to when he invocated the dua. ~ RobTalk 14:39, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I've pulled the hook from prep; the article needs a thorough copyedit before it can be featured on the main page. The final paragraphs of the "Chain of authority" and "Reception" are particularly opaque. I would like to strongly recommend that "invocated" not be used in the ALT1 hook (and article, since the hook is taken directly from it), since the verb "invocate" is listed by dictionaries as "archaic" and there is probably a better way to phrase it so people won't stumble over an obsolete word. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:53, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
  • From my point of view, this is barely English. It needs serious work and anyone who was involved with accepting it for main page inclusion should take a second look. Seriously, what the hell does "advised to croon a little part of dua with feeling and meditate upon its Words. He nominated that don’t read fast this meaningful supplication and think a bout it" mean? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:02, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Article has received its copyedit, and Saff V. has made a number of edits subsequent to that. Reviewer should check that previous issues raised here have been addressed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:17, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svgArticle is long enough and new enough. The copy edits helped. The text is written neutrally with no copyright vios detected. Image is fair use. QPQ not needed. ALT1 has inline citations, although one citation appears to be the text to the supplication rather than a reference to the fact that it was invoked by Ali ibn Husayn Zayn al-Abidin. The second citation links to a site in a language I do not speak, so I could not confirm the citation. Perhaps someone else should double check this point. Also, in a discussion previously, there was a question about whether the word "invocated" should be used in ALT1. That hasn't been yet addressed. SojoQ (talk) 20:25, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
  • The first citation requires you to join the site to download the cited document so I couldn't confirm it; the second one has the information in the hook at the top except it only mentions dawn ("the time of beginning of the fast"), so the hook should be altered is that cite is relied on; not sure how far any of the sites are deemed reliable sources though. Belle (talk) 00:17, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Corinne, main editor of the article, stated that: "the article looks good now." You can see in my talk page.Saff V. (talk) 11:20, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
  • In response to Saff. V.'s comment just above, I have to make clear that I mostly edit to correct errors in grammar, punctuation, spelling, capitalization, text formatting, word usage, sentence flow, and paragraph cohesion. I don't know much about references and citation styles, so other editors will have to speak to these. Corinne (talk) 20:35, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to check the outstanding issues; Belle hasn't edited in two weeks, and may not be able to get back to this review. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:37, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
As BabbaQ noted, article is new enough, long enough, and has inline citations.
  • In the last sentence of the article ("He recommended reading this meaningful supplication slowly and thinking about it as one reads.") the word "meaningful" seems editorial enough to compromise NPOV. I think it should be either quoted and attributed, or replaced with a more neutral word.
  • Perhaps I'm missing something (very possible, as I am not well-versed in Islam) but the source cited for the phrase "Imam al-Sajjad, the fourth Shia Imam" seems to identify 'Ali Zain al-Abidin as the fourth Imam. If these are two names for the same person I believe a source should be cited establishing that.
  • Imam al-Sajjad and Ali Zayn al-Abidin are one person. I replaced all Imam al-Sajjad by Ali Zayn al-Abidin.Saff V. (talk) 09:47, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Of the sources cited for the remainder of that sentence ("invoked the supplication of Abu Hamza al-Thimali every night or dawn during Ramadan.") the first one appears to be just a rendering of the supplication, and does not seem to mention when the supplication was invoked. I searched the book for "morning" and "evening" but could not find substantiation of the claim.
  • The second source cited for the timing of the invocation of the supplication seems to be in Persian. However, Google Translate was of no help as there does not appear to be content on the page. I'm afraid I can't give this source an AGF pass, Saff V., given the issues with the other sources cited for the hook.
Symbol possible vote.svg There appear to still be sourcing issues with the hook. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 22:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)









Articles created/expanded on August 14[edit]

Varaha Upanishad

Varaha
Varaha

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 08:35, 17 August 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough when nominated. Long enough at 10,817 characters. Article meets DYK policies. Hook is short enough, and has been verified by the online source provided, but may be hard to comprehend by people unfamiliar with the subject. Image is used in the article, on Commons and has a valid license. QPQ done. Good to go. sovereign°sentinel (contribs) 14:21, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Okay, I'll be the fly in the ointment here. Not being of this faith, it seems to me the entire second paragraph in the lead of the nominated article is maybe the gist of the hook. And there's a citation at the end of the paragraph. And the source depicts that process by how that happened. Did I get that correct? I'm a little bit concerned this might be perceived as somewhat vague like, "Jesus ascended to heaven because he led a good life." If that makes sense. — Maile (talk) 20:38, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Hello. As I have been editing some articles relating to Hindu philosophy and Hinduism itself recently, I also want to join the conversation. I certainly believe the Varaha Upanishad deserves a DYK, as it is such an important work, whether you are religious or not. In my opinion, the current DYK info is a bit too general to by catchy on its own. And as it has been pointed out it might not make much sense to people without much "inside" knowledge on the subject. There are so much in this particular Upanishad that will make very interesting DYKs, so I have made a small list of examples here below:

  • ALT1 ... the X year old Varaha Upanishad is the first text to describe how the Om mantra washes away all sins and assures salvation?
  • ALT2 ... the X year old Varaha Upanishad is the first text to elaborately describe the concept of Brahman?
  • ALT3 ... the Yamas described in the Varaha Upanishad X years ago, closely matches the Ten Commandments from Christianity?

As the article stands right now, it lacks information on its origin. It is truly very old in the order of 3.000 years, but the article really needs more information on it as it is. That's is why I wrote the "X" above.

RhinoMind (talk) 21:19, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed to check the three suggested Alt hooks. And perhaps have a look at the article for what RhinoMind suggests is lacking. — Maile (talk) 21:28, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

  • @RhinoMind: @Maile66: The article is based on translations of the original Sanskrit text which is dated between the 13th and 16th centuries. I have added this fact in the lead with a reference. The article is highly philosophical and runs into 247 hymns. I have abridged most of it within this article. However, I have added a few more lines at the end of lead which may be interesting. — Maile's observation on the hook is correct. I don't think I can improve on it further as the subject is abstract. I, therefore, suggest that ALT 1 hook suggested by RhinoMind, with the period mentioned, may be considered for approval. I am suggesting it as
ALT4 hook ... the Varaha Upanishad (pictured Varaha), dated between 13th and 16th century, is the text that describes how the Om mantra washes away all sins and assures salvation?

Nvvchar. 06:52, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg ALT4 mentioned in the article, specific enough in wording, and sourced. Striking the others so the promoter does not get confused. Does @RhinoMind: have any comments? — Maile (talk) 12:23, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for adding the origins information Nvvchar and notifying me Maile66. I must say that I am surprised it only dates to the 13th-16th century, as most other Upanishads are 3,000 years old. Or am I completely off on that one too? I better check up on all this. It might be, that the source you writes from Nvvchar, is a compilation with some added verses from that period, while the original text is much older. I dont know and I better discuss it on the articles own TalkPage when I have done some proper research on it.
Update: yes the Upanishads that are viewed as part of the Vedas, are generally 3,000 years old, written in 900-600 BCE. I have now learned, that there are a plethora of more recent so-called Upanishads also. But as only some groups view them as part of the Vedas, they are often called "the sectarian Upanishads" in scholarly terms. Guess you learn something new every day :-) I have moved this particular discussion to the proper TalkPage for now. RhinoMind (talk) 02:29, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
As it was I who suggested the ALT DYK, I think its a great idea :-), but could we perhaps sharpen the DYK further with the addition that it was "the first text to describe ..."? Or is this not true either? I have made a bummer with the dating I guess, so this might also be untrue perhaps. But then: which text did mention it first then? An open and interesting question. RhinoMind (talk) 01:42, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Since my three ALTs relies heavily on an ancient dating, that turned out to be wrong, I am not sure which DYK would fit best. I am open to anything. RhinoMind (talk) 02:33, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
@RhinoMind:, since @Nvvchar: is the nominator, what you are requesting here needs to be approved as a hook by him. Then he needs to make sure it's mentioned that way and sourced in the article.— Maile (talk) 13:46, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
If my opinion counts, I think ALT5 is too long and even more complicated than the original DYK. And Samsara is described by so many other texts, Varaha does not stand out in this respect. For a DYK, I think we should pick something that is unusual and at the same time special for Varaha Upanishad. Perhaps Nvvchars original hook is the best idea after all? Just my thoughts on this. RhinoMind (talk) 17:24, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
  • @Maile66: I would prefer the original hook, as also suggested by RhinoMind. I am proposing it again with slight modifications

ALT6... that in the Varaha Upanishad Varaha (pictured) enlightens sage Ribhu, who attained godhood by austerities, on all Hindu scriptural texts? Nvvchar. 04:10, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed to check ALT6. — Maile (talk) 12:25, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg I essentially re-checked this article against all the criteria. It does need some clean-up, but nothing major, and main page exposure hopefully attract some editors willing to copy-edit the article. I'm approving ALT 6, as it meets the hook criteria and seems the most satisfactory one reached after long discussion. I've taken the liberty of striking Alts 4 and 5, and moving 6 out so that it is more visible for the prepping editor.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 19:34, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Sorry, but "austerities on Hindu texts" makes no sense. I haven't had time to check this nom thoroughly, but at the very least the hook will need rephrasing. Gatoclass (talk) 14:11, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Gatoclass, it's actually "austerities, on Hindu texts." Ribhu, who practiced austerities, is being enlightened on all Hindu texts, no Ribhu practiced austerities on Hindu texts. Even so, maybe "who attained godhood by austerities" could be reworded to "who attained godhood through austerity" or "practicing austerity."--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 14:39, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the explanation, but quite honestly, "enlightened on all Hindu texts" doesn't make much sense to me either, especially given that "enlightened" usually has a more specific meaning in this context. Again, I am going to have to take a closer look at the article and its sources before drawing any further conclusions. Gatoclass (talk) 14:50, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Is this thread still active? Gatoclass Yes, reading the text carefully, it all makes sense, as 3family6 explains. But I can see that the phrasing is easy to misunderstand, and it might ease things, if the commas are simply replaced by dashes. Like this:
"... that in the Varaha Upanishad Varaha (pictured) enlightens sage Ribhu - who attained godhood by austerities - on all Hindu texts?"
Yes "enlightens" can mean many things in a religious context, but here it simply means enlightenment, as it is used in the context of education. Varaha made sure Ribhu understood the Hindu scriptures. Nothing special.
Austerities -> Austerity. I would not endorse this, although it seems a very small thing. Austerity - in Christianity in particular - has a very specific meaning. In a Hindu context there are many "austerities" to work with. They are mainly summed up in the Yamas. These Yamas are somewhat similar to the Ten Commandments in Christianity, so the word "austerities" has a much broader meaning than how the word "austerity" is usually understood in a western cultural context. With just a superficial understanding of Hinduism this aspect is clear. Not trying to be condescenting, just stating and explaining explicitly.
About researching. Nvvchar has made a great contribution by writing up a summary of this important text in English from the Sanskrit version. I am not sure there is any English translation of this text available anywhere. If you know of, or has access to one, the article can be greatly improved if you put in a link or reference.
RhinoMind (talk) 20:34, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
@Gatoclass:, Nvvchar, and RhinoMind: Perhaps a more interesting hook would be "... that the Varaha Upanishad considers being born a human male Brahmin a blessing not easily achieved?" This would mean that a citation would need to be added to the corresponding passage in the article.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 03:06, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Apologies for the delay in returning to this - I was surprised by the length of the article and of the upanishad itself, which has put me off a bit and I haven't found time to look more closely at it yet. I think Rhinomind's suggested fix for ALT6 would probably work, and 3family6's suggested alt would also probably be acceptable assuming it can be verified. Gatoclass (talk) 09:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Gatoclass, RhinoMind and 3family6 I have fixed reference to ALT6 suggested by User talk:3family6 which is in chapter II hymns 5 (b) -7 (a). I have also added the original Sanskrit version of the Upanishad but there is no verbatim translation of this text in English.Nvvchar. 10:28, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Having taken a closer look at this, I can't verify ALT6, which looks to me like a possible misreading of the underlying text. 3family6's suggested alt might work, except that the text uses the term "Brahmana" rather than "Brahmin" and I don't know if they are the same thing. Gatoclass (talk) 09:49, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @Gatoclass:. Brahmana, apart from representing a collection of ancient Indian texts with commentaries on the four Vedas, is also used colloquially in all south Indian languages to mean a Brahmin ( such as "he is a bramhana", "where is the bramhana", "a bramhana is essential for this rite" and so on). However, in this context I am rewording the hook suggested by RhinoMind as ALT7 ... that the Varaha Upanishad (Varaha pictured) considers being born a human male with blessings of knowledge of Brahmana, which is not easily achieved?Nvvchar. 04:28, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Hello. Again :) It's a bit amusing how a simple DYK issue can evolve into such a long thread and I feel a bit sorry for Nvvchar who have to endure all this, when he just wanted to finish of his article with a short interesting DYK. That said, I would need to point out, that the DYK above has to be copy-edited to be complete, so here goes:
  • "... that the Varaha Upanishad (Varaha pictured) considers being born a human male with blessings of knowledge of Brahmana, something not easily achieved?"
In your post Nvvchar, you both writes brahmana and bramhana. Is this a mistake? And perhaps this similarity between Brahmana and Brahmin in South India would need to be ref'ed, sourced or linked, if it is important for the understanding.
Overall I think it would be wise to be cautious when mixing the Indian caste system and Hindu philosophy. Hindu philosophy is something else and much more universal, while the caste system is a cultural aspect of India specifically. Some of the Hindu scriptures use the concept of the caste system to explains certain things, but this does not imply that this culture specific social order is a fundamental aspect of Hindu philosophy. The scriptures just mirrors the cultural context from which it emerged, while explaining much more universal things. Therefore I do not think it is a good idea to mix these concepts in a casual way. It is two different things. Just saying. RhinoMind (talk) 11:14, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I have mentioned it as a colloquial usage and I can't cite it with any specific reference. The hook modified by RhinoMind, @Gatoclass: may wish to approve. If there is so much problem in approving the hook, it may be better for me to withdraw the dyk. Pl decide. Nvvchar. 14:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)






Articles created/expanded on August 16[edit]

Murder of Shuja Khanzada

Created by Wikimandia (talk), Mar4d (talk), and محمد افضل (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 23:47, 22 August 2015 (UTC).

  • As someone who contributed significantly to this page, I don't feel it's appropriate for a DYK. A bit too morbid and disrespectful of the dead IMHO. An updated hook can be used for ITN. МандичкаYO 😜 01:46, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Unfortunately, the ITN nomination was late, and many unrelated news from the same day of the incident were posted on ITN. Therefore, the story is... running out of its time to be posted. Once archived, it'll be too late. As for these hooks, I'll add more without being morbid and disrespectful:
  • I wasn't able to add details of the explosion, but I'm trying my best. George Ho (talk) 03:05, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough. ALTs 3-5 short enough and sourced, but would all require a reference after them. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found. QPQ done and image properly licensed.--Launchballer 12:21, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

What do you mean "require a reference after them"? George Ho (talk) 14:22, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg I imagine he means that one or more of the facts in those hooks need to be given inline source citations in the articles by the end of the sentence that contains them. However, ALTs 3 through 5 are very confusing in their intro; ALT1 was acceptable in that regard, but these three are not. You also might want to consider putting the second clause ("before his demise at his home in Shadikhan") first, which would allow the rest of the hook to run without interruption ("that before his demise at his home in Shadikhan, Pakistani politician and ex-colonel Shuja Khanzada fought/served/commanded..."). ALT4 and ALT5 also end with "throughout his military career", which don't make sense in the context of a single assignment from that career. Finally, while I realize you were trying to address the feelings by one of the authors of the articles that the initial hooks were "morbid and disrespectful", the euphemistic phrase "his demise at his home" makes it sound like he died of a fall, not from assassins' bombs. If the line in the lead of the Shuja Khanzada article, Appointed Home Minister in 2014, Khanzada spearheaded the campaign against terrorism and sectarian militancy in Punjab. could be sourced, that fact might make an effective hook in tandem with the attack. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:21, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Anything wrong with "demise at the the hands of assassins' bombs"?--Launchballer 17:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
That would make hooks longer. George Ho (talk) 21:16, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Rewrote ALTs. George Ho (talk) 21:16, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't have time to check them now, but does it make them longer than 200 characters? I'll check later, but if not, then what's the problem?--Launchballer 16:50, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol possible vote.svg Launchballer, "demise at the the hands of assassins' bombs" is wordy as proposed and it's more than a bit odd to have "hands" and "bombs"? Why not "death from assassins' bombs"? George Ho, not only did you fail to fix "Pakistani and politician ex-colonel", you retained "throughout his military career", which is not only a waste of characters but makes no sense in context. If you aren't going to take more care with the hooks you propose in response to the issues raised, you need to be prepared for the nomination to be closed as unsuccessful. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:07, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Good enough for me. I await an appropriate ALT.--Launchballer 21:15, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
I overlooked. I was so busy with other things, yet I forgot one slight error describing the person. As for "throughout his military career", I'll fix it soon. George Ho (talk) 22:35, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
...Actually, I eliminated the phrase as redundant. George Ho (talk) 22:37, 15 October 2015 (UTC)









Articles created/expanded on August 18[edit]

Du'a Arafah

Created by Saff V. (talk). Self-nominated at 10:39, 22 August 2015 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg Not so much a review, but I would suggest that before this is seriously considered the prose be brought up to standard English. It's got too much of a non-native speaker feel to it as is. Daniel Case (talk) 05:35, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
@Victuallers: Can you help to copy edit the article?Saff V. (talk) 06:01, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough. Hook short enough and sourced, but uninteresting - see below. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found. QPQ unnecessary and image properly licensed. An informative article - I thought until recently the Arafat Desert was banned at the same time as trans fats.
Please ask the WP:GOCE to copyedit the article. Also, has this got anything to do with the recent pilgrimage that killed 717 people (or whatever it was)? Hooks on the topic of that are probably going to be more interesting.--Launchballer 16:46, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Added the article in this page. The article has no relation with Mina event .Saff V. (talk) 05:28, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  • This is a great little article, but as much as I'd like to send it on it's not ready. The references are done inconsistently and incompletely, esp. notes 9 and 10. Notes 4 and 5 are from the same source but done differently; I don't know what the GGKEY part means in note 2. Also, I cannot tell whether Noormag is a reliable source (plus, I'm ashamed to say, I can't read it). And it still needs copyediting, but I think that needs to be done by someone with solid knowledge of the subject matter: that person is not me. I glanced through the list at Category:Muslim Wikipedians, but didn't see anyone I know. That person, an experienced Wikipedia editor who also knows the subject matter, can also take care of the references. Drmies (talk) 03:47, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • According to this page, copy editing of the article is completed.Saff V. (talk) 07:53, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Saff V., the GOCE work may have been completed on October 8, but Drmies has nevertheless found some remaining issues with the prose, though it has been improved from before. It looks like more work is needed, and the problem is finding someone who knows the subject matter to do it. Perhaps you could request assistance at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam/Shi'a Islam task force, since this is a Shi'a Islam article? BlueMoonset (talk) 16:59, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I have a problem with the opening sentence already, which seems to lack an article. I think there are titles that need to be italicized. I see minor punctuation errors/infelicities. In short, plenty of work. Drmies (talk) 17:07, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
BlueMoonset I think that sa.vakilian can help you in the article. This user is member of Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Islam/Shi'a Islam task force and is active member in the project.Saff V. (talk) 09:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Saff V., I'm glad to see that sa.vakilian will be helping you. Please be sure to let us know here when the work has been completed. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:56, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I will be happy to help you with it.Seyyed(t-c) 05:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on August 21[edit]

2015 Thalys train attack

Four awarded men with French President François Hollande
Four awarded men with French President François Hollande
  • ... that in the Thalys train heading to Paris, when the attacker's rifle was jammed, six passengers (four pictured) were able to subdue him, ending the attack with five injuries, including the attacker?

Created by Unibond (talk), Sandra opposed to terrorism (talk), Callinus (talk), and Wikimandia (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 03:55, 25 August 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Right now there are two. George Ho (talk) 16:29, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Still unacceptable. You may consider removing the text altogether. sstflyer 08:31, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Added another citation and then removed uncited one. George Ho (talk) 08:32, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

I switched a photo with a better one. George Ho (talk) 08:10, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The above review was not a complete review, so I went through and reviewed the whole article from scratch. Length and nomination date check out. No copy-vios or other policy violations regarding the content. QPQ done. Image is used within policy, is in the article, and displays well. I consider the first hook very wordy, and I did a bit of minor cleanup on Alt 1, which I approve (if the minor cleanup I did, though it made little change to the hook content disqualifies me from approving, then please, another editor sign off on it).--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 19:48, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg 3family6, the hook is 212 characters excluding the "(four pictured)", well above the DYK maximum. Even when I discount the duplicate use of "attack" at the end of the bold link, it's 205 characters. I've struck ALT1; George Ho, can you please supply a new hook? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Here are more ALTs below:

George Ho (talk) 21:29, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

  • George Ho, I've edited the hooks so "attack on the Thalys train" is the bold link; since the article is "2015 Thalys train attack" is makes no sense to fail to include "Thalys train" in the article link. If people want to know the meaning of Thalys, it will be there in the bolded article. I've also relabeled the second ALT3 as ALT4, and revised the death/injury clauses, since they had wording problems and couldn't have passed as is. I'm not sure why you've gone from "six" to "several", so I left that unchanged, although the lack of a firm number makes the hook inherently less interesting. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:46, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • As I was checking, five men were already given the honours, while the sixth guy (anonymous) was supposed to be given the honour at an unknown later date. I changed from "several" to "six". George Ho (talk) 00:24, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  • George, as the article says with Damian A. expected to be similarly honored at a later date, you can't simply say "six" and "were" as if it had definitely already happened to all six. You need confirmation that Damian has already been made a Knight, sourced and in the article, or a different wording will be required. Sorry, but we can't state things we don't know to be completely accurate. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Here are more ALTs below; I struck above ones but made ALT2 fresher.
  • ALT6:... that six men subdued the gunman of the attack on the Thalys train heading to Paris, which ended with four injuries, including the perpetrator himself?
  • ALT7: ... that five men were made Knights of the Legion of Honour (ceremony pictured) for subduing the gunman of the attack on the Thalys train heading to Paris, although one more male helped the subduing?
  • ALT8: ... that the suspect who was subdued by six men during the train attack heading to Paris was shown on handcuffs in trial (prior to conviction), which is illegal in France?







Articles created/expanded on August 26[edit]

Railway of the Prince Imperial

Railway of the Prince Imperial
Railway of the Prince Imperial

Created/expanded by NearEMPTiness (talk). Self-nominated at 08:43, 29 August 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This article is new enough, long enough (over 2,300 characters), and neutral, although it is quite problematic in that it has no inline citations and the only two references (listed at the end) do not link to resources available online. For this reason, I am unfortunately unable to judge the citation quality of the article or check for copyright concerns. The hook (to which I have made a few minor modifications) is short enough and quite interesting, but I am unable to confirm its veracity due to the aforementioned issue with the article's references. Furthermore, the nominator only has two previous DYKs, so QPQ is not required. In further good news, the image is public domain due to age and is used in the article. If this article can be properly referenced, I'll be happy to review the citations and check for any copyright issues, but I can't pass this nomination without proper inline citations. Sorry. Michael Barera (talk) 02:17, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for the review. As this article is a translation from the German Wikipedia, I do not have access to the references either. I will ask the German author for help. --NearEMPTiness (talk)
Thank you for your help, and for understanding that I can't pass this nomination without inline citations. Michael Barera (talk) 00:34, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
I have now added two inline citations into the article. --NearEMPTiness (talk) 07:39, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Symbol voting keep.svg I am accepting the inline citations in good faith, as I unfortunately cannot read either French or German, although on the other hand having foreign-language citations essentially precludes the possibility of plagiarism by definition. I know that having just two citations in an article is quite unusual for DYK, but considering the length of this article as well as its subject matter I think that it is passable in this case. If other users disagree with me on this assessment, however, please speak up and voice your concerns. To me, though, I think that this article is good to go (again accepting the sources in good faith). Michael Barera (talk) 01:51, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Links to the references are here (middle column) and there (illustration). --NearEMPTiness (talk)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Symbol voting keep.svg Thanks. I've added the URL for the first of the two references to the template in the article, but the second reference (the illustration) is not the Reder (German-language) source, is it? So, I'm still accepting both references in good faith because I can't read French or German. Michael Barera (talk) 01:38, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I have returned this from prep 4 because the hook is uncited. It seems there are only one or two references for this claim, one offline and another in French. If someone can translate the French, the hook might be verified that way. There is another uncited claim in the article that this was the first known photograph of a model railroad, which should also be cited. Otherwise, it might be worthwhile doing a google search for "world's first model railroad" to try and find further verification. Gatoclass (talk) 15:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
I found this on an enthusiasts' website: Mathias Baldwin, founder of the Baltimore Locomotive Works, made an early passenger train model in the 1830s. By the end of that decade, several other toymakers had produced their own versions. George Brown & Co., of Connecticut is credited with making the first known self-propelled American model train in 1856. It utilized clockworks. Model Train History. I guess the first self-propelled model train is not the same as "the first documented model railway" though, as the latter would seem to indicate a fixed display. Gatoclass (talk) 15:29, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment While I had accepted the references in good faith, I think that it may be better to have someone who can read French, and maybe also German, review this article and its citations more closely. Michael Barera (talk) 23:57, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
From my limited French, the first source only contains a first hand description of the railway. I don't have access to the German book and, even if I did, it lacks a page number (not feeling like going through ~250 pages for this). Pinging the nominator. Fuebaey (talk) 01:54, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment I read French without difficulty. The Monde Illustré source definitely does not confirm that the railway of the Prince Imperial was the first documented model railway in the world. Nor does it support a number of other statements in the article, a good part of which – through no fault of the nominator – appears to consist of speculation or WP:OR, compounded by poor understanding of the source (for example, the engine is described in the source as being 50 cm wide, but the Wikipedia articles (en, de, da) give that as a length). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 10:47, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for your comment on the confusion about width and length ("Sa locomotive, qui peut avoir cinquante centimetres de largeur,...") which has now be corrected in both the German and English article. --NearEMPTiness (talk)
  • @NearEMPTiness: The hook does not appear to be sourced. If you're still working on this nom, please add an in-line citation to the sentence or provide another suitable hook. Fuebaey (talk) 18:32, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Reviewer needed to check proposed ALT1 hook. I've struck the original hook due to its lack of required sourcing. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:26, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Although it appears that the claim in ALT1 is supported by an offline source (and referenced by an inline citation in the article), I think there are a few other reasons why this article is likely ineligible at the moment. Supplemental rule A2 states that block quotations should not be counted when determining article length. If you exclude the large block quotation in this article, it falls below the required 1500 characters. Additionally, rule D6 says an article is likely to be rejected if there are dispute tags in the article. As of this moment, I count four dispute tags in this article (and one more could arguably be placed on the unsourced sentence at the end of the "Historic documents" sentence). I think this hook could make for a very interesting DYK, but the article first needs to be expanded and the citation issues still need to be resolved. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 22:41, 12 October 2015 (UTC)








Articles created/expanded on September 3[edit]

That We Can Play

Games (now Ford & Lopatin) in March 2010
Games (now Ford & Lopatin) in March 2010

Created by EditorE (talk). Self-nominated at 12:41, 5 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough, created 2 days before nomination. Symbol confirmed.svg It's long enough, at 7659 characters by my count. Symbol confirmed.svg It follows NPOV, though the tone is unencyclopedic in some places (e.g. "majorly"), and uses inline citations appropriately.
Symbol possible vote.svg There are a number of instances of too-close paraphrasing that will have to be corrected before this article can run as a DYK.
Symbol confirmed.svg Hook is short enough (though I would strike the "highly" and the second "their") and interesting enough. Facts in the hook are cited in the body of the article but not yet in the lead — that's easily fixed, though. Hook is compliant with BLP.
Symbol question.svg I was baffled by the results from the QPQ check tool... is there documentation somewhere? (I am new to DYK review.)
Symbol confirmed.svg Image is freely licensed; I'm not convinced it works at DYK thumbnail size, though.
As I have virtually no experience at DYK review, I'd ask a more experienced reviewer to check my work. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 03:28, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer requested to check inexperienced reviewer's work. Note to GrammarFascist: please only use one summary icon per review, since the software will assume the most recent icon is the one that counts, but in this case the final icon (the tick) does not reflect what the final assessment should be, that the too-close paraphrasing means that the article is not approved and needs further work. (Giving at least one or two examples of the close paraphrasing is a good idea, as it helps the nominator find and correct them.) BlueMoonset (talk) 01:24, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Oops! Sorry about that, BlueMoonset, and thanks for fixing it for me. Here are a few examples of the close paraphrasing:
  • article "A week of demos had been recorded during the summer of 2009 at Ford's parents' home in Massachusetts"; source "We did a week of demos during the summer of 2009 at Joel's parents' house in Massachusetts." (Pitchfork)
  • article "the two decided to move into an apartment together in 2010 to get the project going."; source "it took us moving into an apartment together this year to really get the project going again." (Pitchfork)
  • article "'Planet Party' has dusty handclaps, cheesy, violent orchestra hits, howling wah-wah'd guitar synths"; source "The dusty handclaps, cheesy orchestra hits, and baying keyboards of 'Planet Party'" (Boston Globe)
I (belatedly) followed the link to the Everything Starts With An 'E' nomination above and confirmed that EditorE reviewed it. I'm still confused by the QPQ Check tool, though. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 21:03, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the issues addressed! I'm trying to make my articles as little of a quote farm as possible, and I promise these issue will be resolved. 和DITOREtails 22:35, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Still waiting after over a week for EditorE to fix all the close paraphrasing in the article. EditorE, please be sure to post here when you have addressed the issues raised by GrammarFascist in the reviews above. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 03:15, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Pretty sure all the close paraphrasing problems is fixed by now, and also removed some unneeded critical analysis. 和DITOREtails 03:29, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • You did well at rewording most of the close paraphrasing, EditorE, but you did miss some that the wording should have been obvious to you as too similar to the source:
    • article "Its instrumentation of synth panpipes and marimbas, a bouncing boogie bass and pounding disco drums backs Laurel Halo's extremely-reverb'd dreamy vocals noted to be similar to the cloud-like textures that appear in works released under the name Oneohtrix Point Never"; source "'Strawberry Skies', for instance, is their contribution to history's vocal pop canon, featuring Laurel Halo's dreamy singing over synth panpipes and marimbas, a bouncing boogie bass and stomping disco drums underpinning it all." The word "dreamy" is POV and should be either attributed as a direct quotation or changed, as should the distinctive phrase "cloud-like textures" which is taken from a different sentence in the same source.
    • article "Shaw wrote that the song sounded more like a real computer game than the UK club songs that the track is being influenced by"; source "the result sounding far more like a real computer game than any of the UK club tracks currently referencing them." This should probably be converted to a direct quotation since you're mentioning the author.
Symbol possible vote.svg I'm concerned that you thought those instances weren't close paraphrasing, EditorE. I don't think this article is yet ready for another reviewer to take over, since they would just tell you to fix instances like those noted above. For future reference it's much easier to avoid close paraphrasing from the start than to fix it after the fact. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 17:15, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've done more fixing of this ever since. I'm trying my best. 和DITOREtails 22:04, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • EditorE, more needs to be done to correct close paraphrasing than changing a word or two to a very similar word. You need to rewrite what you find in sources in your own words. Distinctive phrases, even ones as short as "boogie bass", should be either (1) completely rewritten, (2) included as a direct quotation set off by "quotation marks", or (3) omitted entirely. Please address the above-listed instances of close paraphrasing properly (I note that you have thus far made edits to only one of the sentences I identified above) using one of the three methods I suggested. Remember that evaluative language has a higher attribution requirement than dryly factual language; it might be fine to use the phrase "five-track EP" without attributing it as a direct quotation, but the same would not be true of the phrase "explosive debut EP", nor would changing it to "explosive first EP" constitute sufficient rewriting. Is this clear? —GrammarFascist contribstalk 13:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC)







Shelby Gem Factory, Larry Paul Kelley

Shelby Gem Factory
Shelby Gem Factory

... that the Shelby Gem Factory (pictured), founded by Larry Paul Kelley, makes more varieties of synthetic and man-made gemstones than any other company in the world?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self-nominated at 10:00, 3 September 2015 (UTC).

  • To be clear, I am not reviewing this nomination; someone else will have to do that. The reasons I'm not doing the review are 1) I'm too new at reviewing DYK noms, in my own estimation, and 2) I'm going to be going in and trying to edit at least one of the articles so that it has a chance of passing NPOV. As of now, much of both articles reads like advertisement. I have to wonder whether user:Doug Coldwell has a personal and/or business relationship with Shelby Gem Factory and/or Larry Paul Kelley. Personally, I think the hook would be stronger without mentioning Mr. Kelley at all; his name in there feels too promotional. All that said, I have a passing interest in gemstones, so I'm feeling motivated to tweak at least the one article to save it from being nominated for deletion. We'll see what my Google-fu brings up for sources... —GrammarFascist (talk) 22:10, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
  • @GrammarFascist: I am disturbed by your comment where you wonder if seasoned editor @Doug Coldwell has a "personal and/or business relationship" with either SGF or LPK; please assume good faith and be very careful with innuendo. As for wanting to improve these or any other articles, that's what we're here for, mate, so join in as you please. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:43, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
  • @Rosiestep: Sorry; I have seen other editors come right out and ask someone who created an article full of promotional language whether the article creator had a COI, so I thought that's how it was done. How should I have phrased it? Meanwhile, both user:Doug Coldwell and I have removed some of the promotional language from the Shelby Gem Factory article, but I feel there may still be a bit too much. I think it might help if a third editor looked it over so its DYK nomination doesn't fail. —GrammarFascist (talk) 17:00, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
  • I have 365 Did You Know articles, a few that are multiple article hooks that range from 2 to 30 articles in a single line DYK. I have created 370 articles (five are pending DYKs) and have some 30,000 edit contributions. From my past experience this article qualifies as a DYK as it stands now. Of course I don't mind additional improvements.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 17:22, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Just passing this along - my wife asked me "Why don't we go visit this place. It would be an easy day trip." We have never been there, however it sounds totally fascinating. Got everything from the Web.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Just passing this along also - look under my picture to see videos on how I normally do research for the articles I create. Usually I use books, however some I create from just online sources - like this one. Also don't forget to look at the newspaper article written up on me.
  • Like I say, from my experience this article qualifies as a Did You Know as it stands now.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:34, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Oh, did I mention that the Factory pictures were uploaded to Wikipedia (not Commons) over 9 years ago - by Larry P. Kelley himself. So I guess if there is a conspiracy here, we have been working on it for almost 10 years.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:48, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Here is where Larry Kelley added one of the pictures to the Skull crucible article in February of 2006.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:03, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
It wouldn't matter even if Doug did know the company and was being paid by them to write it. As long as it reads neutrally and is sourced reliably. Not that I think he is working for the company, but still. It's a lovely new article. And I checked what he wrote originally and see nothing promotional or gushing about it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:12, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT1 ... that Larry Paul Kelley founded the Shelby Gem Factory (pictured) which makes more varieties of synthetic and man-made gemstones than any other company in the world?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg - new enough, long enough, citations and sources checks, good alt1 hook. Good 2 go.BabbaQ (talk) 16:03, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Symbol possible vote.svg I am concerned that some of the phrasing used is too close to that of the sources. Compare for example the Kelley article and this source. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:42, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

@Nikkimaria: I have copyedited and expanded the Kelley article. Will this work?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:22, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

No, it's still too close. One specific example is "Kelley learned that making ruby laser rods was interesting, but didn’t prove profitable" vs "But making rubies for laser rods, while interesting, didn’t prove very profitable", but the problem is more pervasive than that single phrase. Nikkimaria (talk) 02:48, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
O.K. I'll continue to make improvements to the Kelley article today.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 09:44, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @Nikkimaria: I further copyedited and improved the Kelley article. I have reduced the Earwig's Copyvio Detector from 1.0% to 0.0% confidence on all websites. I also double checked by entering in each line into Google, without quotes, and not once did it come to the website A Flaming Success at the Shelby Gem Factory. I would think if there was close phrasing used that it would bring up that site at least one time on one of the sentences. Will that work for a green tick?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 19:08, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
  • No, it won't. We can't rely on automated tools like Copyvio Detector to determine close paraphrasing, because they aren't "smart" enough to see what humans can - phrases that are close in wording or structure but not identical to the source. Another example of this from Shelby Gem Factory: "These are chemically and physically indistinguishable of those unearthed. The man-made gemstones have a nearly flawless composition, because the factory controls the ingredients and cooking temperature. It is very rare to find flawless natural gems" vs "which are chemically and physically identical to stones dug from the ground. “Most of the gems we make are nearly flawless, because we control the ingredients and the cooking temperature,” Larry says. “It is rare to find a flawless natural ruby". There needs to be some more significant rewriting here. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:27, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
  • "Semiconductor technology" section is rather close to FN6 still, and the Factory article generally needs copy-editing before it will be mainpage ready. Nikkimaria (talk) 16:18, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @Nikkimaria: I have removed the "Semiconductor technology" section on Larry's article and am doing copyediting on the Factory article.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 18:39, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • "Semiconductor technology" was totally rewritten by me and I put it into the Factory article. 7&6=thirteen () 19:06, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
  • "Semiconductor technology" was moved back to Larry's article by me.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 20:08, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Need a second opinion / recheck. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:06, 5 October 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on September 6[edit]

Boile Run

Boile Run in its lower reaches
Boile Run in its lower reaches
  • ... that an erroneous version of Boile Run's (pictured) name was in local use for at least 95 years?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 15:12, 6 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, well referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Hook ref verified and cited inline. Images are form Commons. QPQ done. GTG. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:15, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg I pulled this hook from prep 6 as the hook appears to be incorrect - it looks to me as if the source says the correct version of the name was in use for at least 95 years rather than the incorrect one. Gatoclass (talk) 09:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
@Gatoclass: Nice catch, I modified the article now. I think the opposite hook could fly just as well: ALT1: ... that Boile Run (pictured) was referred to as "Boyle Run" in a 1953 USGS map, even though the name "Boile Run" had been in local use for decades? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 14:15, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
I will need some time to think about that alt - at the very least, I think it could use a copyedit to avoid the repetition of "Boile Run". Gatoclass (talk) 14:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
I am not very keen on the proposed alt. How about this:
  • ALT2: ... that the name of Boile Run was still in question 95 years after its first documented use? Gatoclass (talk) 12:31, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Something doesn't seem quite right about ALT2, I heavily lean towards ALT1. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 23:02, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
The problem with ALT1, Jakec, is that it just isn't interesting. Who cares that a name was misspelled on an official document one time? It's a yawn as a hook, made worse by the fact that it's a wordy yawn. Also, we have already featured at least one other hook using essentially the same fact. I think ALT2 is a lot more interesting and I see no problem with it; it's a fact that the USGS were recommending the adoption of the spelling "Boile Run" 95 years after its first documented use. Gatoclass (talk) 08:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
ALT2 is not entirely accurate; it makes it sound like the name was in question the whole time, which it wasn't. And we don't know that 1874 is the first documented use of Boile Run. It's just the first that can be found from publicly available online sources. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 11:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Jakec, it's not from "publicly available online sources", it's from a 1965 document, long before there was any such thing as "online". And that USGS document states that the name has been in use "approx. 95 years" and cites an 1874 map, so yes, the 1874 map must be the first documented use. I guess you have a point about the "still in question" phrase, however. Try this instead: *ALT3: ... that government officials recommended adopting the name "Boile Run" for a tributary of the Susquehanna 95 years after its first documented use? Gatoclass (talk) 15:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)





Celebrity Fifteen to One

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 01:04, 6 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg I am not sure I get the math here at all and I am an engineer. So the first show had 2 out of 35 celebrity shows, or 5.7% of all shows in the original. Reviewed show had 4 out of 10 or 40% - Correct so far? I just don't see the leap to 4275%, I mean that would mean it would have to produce 42 times more celebrity shows = 84 shows? Not sure what 35/2 gives us? that there was a ratio of 17.5 to 1 I guess? But that's not a percentage. I don't get the math and the cited hook is not sourced either so it's hard to pass this one on that part alone. If the hook can be explained/supported by facts then maybe otherwise I'm not sure this could be passed. @Launchballer: I would love a few details on this.  MPJ-US  03:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Reading the two articles just gives me a headache - So Non Celebrity Original series, 2265 episodes, non celebrity revival series 100 episodes? 2 original show Celeb episodes, revival had 10? original 0.08% Celebrity Specials, new one 0.9%-ish Celebrity specials. `I am not seeing how you get the 4275 number at all. MPJ-US  03:32, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
  • You've lost me now! The first 35 series contained just 2 celebrity specials. 1 special per 17.5 series. In the revival series, the four series contain 10 specials. 2.5 specials per series. 17.5 x 2.5 = 43.75, or 4375%, minus 100%. Clearer?--Launchballer 18:58, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
'*but.... 17.5 to 1 is not a percentage, it is a ratio - and why multiply two ratios with each other? That definitly does not turn it into a percentage. To me the math is unclear, potentially wrrong and there is no source for it. Yes it is "synthesized" from facts, but the calculations are not clear at all.  MPJ-US  20:19, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
  • by your logic the first show had 17.5% specials and the new one had 250% specials? Since you.went 43.75 = 4375%? I am trying to see the math, but the jump from ratio to percent does not make sense. MPJ-US  20:24, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
17.5:1 divided by 1:2.5, or 17.5 divided by 0.4, is 43.75. Converted to a percentage, 43.75 is 4375%. 4375% is 4275% more than the 100% of the original.--Launchballer 21:47, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
I get the math until you turn a ratio into a percentage straight up - you basically say that 2 is 17.5% of 32. That math does not check out at all. MPJ-US  23:10, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Actually it is wrong right off the bat should be 1/17.5 and 10/4. Which equals 0.05 and 2.5 respectively. If we follow your logic we go to 0.05/2.5 = 0.0228...
At this point I can fail the DYK for being unsourced and not logical, or you can ask for a second opinion on your math. MPJ-US  23:16, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
The alternative is for me to produce another hook, such as ALT1: ... that Gyles Brandreth is the only person to have appeared in episodes of Celebrity Fifteen to One presented by both William G. Stewart and Adam Hills? However, try taking the ratios as fractions; my logic is based on 2.5/0.0571428 to find out how much more the revival has in comparison with the original.--Launchballer 00:16, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Let us go with the alternate hook to avoid head aches, the last appearance table is unsourced though so that needs to be addressed before the hook can be considered sourced.  MPJ-US  00:36, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Oops, fixed.--Launchballer 09:05, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
That source does not list Brandreth as a contestant as far as I can tell? MPJ-US  03:28, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Which source are you on about? Either try Ctrl-F, or if on the episode guide, watch celebrity episode 4 in series 2015. They list the contestants at the start of the show, so it won't take long.--Launchballer 08:03, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── It's a video? I did not even notice that. Yes the video does list him, hmmmm.  MPJ-US  13:01, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

One last thing, what does the colored squares refer to? There is no key to indicate this? MPJ-US  13:11, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Whoa was just AFD'ed! So this is on hold until the AFD is over, if it is kept it could still have a DYK. MPJ-US  13:51, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Unbelievable. To answer your question, they are gold, silver and bronze.--Launchballer 16:17, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Oh so literally 1st, 2nd, 3rd. Too obvious for me to see that ;-)  MPJ-US  16:27, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, that "Unbelievable" wasn't directed at you, rather at AldezD for nominating the article for deletion. You are welcome to comment on that AfD if you feel particularly opinionated one way or the other.--Launchballer 17:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Note: still at AfD, for those wondering why the nomination has stalled. If the AfD is closed without deletion, then the review will resume. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:56, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg AfD closed as "no consensus", so a reviewer needed to start the process going again. Have struck the original hook with its questionable methodology. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:41, 17 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on September 7[edit]

El Hijo de Dos Caras

Converted from a redirect by MPJ-DK (talk). Self-nominated at 01:50, 13 September 2015 (UTC).

Symbol possible vote.svg Length and history verified. But I need to know more about the sources used for the hook facts. For the main hook, the source is a blogspot blog. Is Estrellas de Ring considered a reliable source within the Mexican wrrestling community? For the second, I ran the source through Google Translate and the nearest thing that supports the hook fact is a comment sort of asking the question. I think we need a better source than that. Daniel Case (talk) 03:35, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes it is considered reliable for what it is, match results and interviews with wrestlers. The author Ruiz Reyes writes about lucha libre for a number of different sites that covers Lucha Libre.
You mean the "hold the ladder" comment? First of all I want to point out the first picture in the actual article, showing Morgan (opponent) and referees holding the ladder for Hijo de Dos Caras. (Is that considered 1000 words on the subject ;-) kidding) Also this from my built in browser translator "In the final moments, I tired of so many failed attempts and a third ladder in the ring, the Pirate Morgan knowing that weight nobody could help, I'd rather help the son of two faces hung literally belt that resisted loose tie that held it down and could finally be declared Heavyweight new monarch of the IWRG".
I hope that helps clarify?  MPJ-US  12:29, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, that helps with the main hook, which I like more anyway. My query about the source cited for ALT1 is still open, though, and I'd rather not clear this for takeoff before either a) we have resolved this or b) we've decided to drop it. Daniel Case (talk) 05:14, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • woops did not realise there was a question for the alt1 as well. That is sourced in the "Hijo del Dos Caras" section to an interview in SuperLuchas magazine 507.  MPJ-US  11:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)








Articles created/expanded on September 9[edit]

Emilie von Berlepsch

von Berlepsch
von Berlepsch
  • ALT1:... have a go
  • Reviewed: QPQ = Maiasmokk
  • Comment: Copyedit by a German speaking editor very welcome

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 20:21, 9 September 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting life and writing! Few sources, but good, - German has more, literature could be copied for those interested. I don't see Goethe in the German article, but Jean Paul. I think the name of the first husband should be mentioned. If possible avoid squeezing text between infobox and image. Hook fine, subscription source accepted AGF. Image free and a good illustration! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:02, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks @Gerda Arendt:. Goethe's in the Emglish source. I can see that she was briefly engaged to Jean Paul. That's notable but I don't have the skills/courage to find/add a German source. Useful to include. I have added a bit about Robert Burns and her first husband. OK? thx again. Victuallers (talk) 12:23, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Fine. Jean Paul should be added for interest's sake, but his name missing is not in the way of approval. I though again about the hook. Can you add a hint at early writing on women's rights, for those who don't know Wollstonecraft and misogyny? At least link the latter which I had to look up? Our readership is international ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:18, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm ... I've tried to take the ideas and remove the need for prior knowledge. Victuallers (talk) 14:12, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Alt1: ... that Emilie von Berlepsch told German readers about how a woman writes about Women's Rights?
Alt2 ... that Emilie von Berlepsch told German readers about why it appeared that men hated women?
Symbol voting keep.svg All hooks possible, I prefer the slightly quirky touch of Alt1, said "a" instead of "the" because she wasn't the only one, right? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:37, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
I fixed the link to the Misogyny article above. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 15:26, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Those hooks don't look right to me. I will take a closer look at this one tomorrow. Gatoclass (talk) 14:27, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Apologies for not following up on this one sooner. Both alts are awkward in my opinion and inaccurate, I don't think either are acceptable. The original hook looks viable in terms of fact but again is a bit awkwardly expressed - does "told about" mean "introduced to" (ie Wollstonecraft)? And I don't think you can say she "told about" the nature of misogyny either, as if she's an impeccable authority - she merely had an opinion and wrote about it. So I think this hook at least needs some clarification. Gatoclass (talk) 07:02, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • If Berlepsch did indeed introduce Wollstonecraft to German readers (the article says only "discussed" so that would need to be clarified) then I think the original hook could be reworded to something like:
  • ALT3: ... that aristocrat Emilie von Berlepsch wrote about women‍ '​s rights and misogyny and introduced German readers to the work of Mary Wollstonecraft? Gatoclass (talk) 07:08, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Are you telling us about this or writing about it? I'm not sure there is a difference. I'm quite happy with either or even if you are "introducing" your view to us. I presume this difference is important and I'm happy with any of these very similar interpretations. This alt doesn't address Gerda's objections (who can read de:wiki) however which I feel have been ignored. Victuallers (talk) 14:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I think the difference is that "told" can mean a lot of different things and have different connotations, whereas "introduced" has a more precise meaning. However, you didn't confirm for me that Ms. Berlepsch did actually introduce Germans to Wollstonecraft - the article still only says she "discussed" W. for German readers - any chance you could clarify that in the article? Regarding Gerda's comments, they weren't really objections, rather suggestions as to how the article might be improved, which are beyond the scope of this process, as I think the article already meets the criteria. We really only need to confirm the hook at this point. Gatoclass (talk) 14:48, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Gerda said " I though again about the hook. Can you add a hint at early writing on women's rights, for those who don't know Wollstonecraft and misogyny?". This is not about the article and it is the reason why the hooks were written. The original hook said "told". I would have thought that translations might be useful for introducing a writer to German readers but maybe she was just discussing/telling/saying/writing. If you want to insist on Alt3 then I suggest you change it to the word you like. I think introduce could have read re-introduce but discuss will do. Victuallers (talk) 16:55, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I added "womens rights" to the hook (and also "aristocrat" as I think it adds to the interest). How does it look now? Gatoclass (talk) 10:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
(still watching, on vacation:) please don't change hooks which have caused comments, because it makes the discussion hard to follow. "Aristocrat" is redundant for readers who know that the "von" in her name stands for that. Mentioning women's rights and Wollstonecraft and misogyny seems one thing too many to me, please decide on two of the three. Is "introduced" now in the article and sourced? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Which would you prefer to see in the hook, misogyny or womens rights? Regarding the "introduced", the article states that She discussed various writers for German readers including particularly Mary Wollstonecraft.[1] She notes her similar role in raising these subjects for the first time in German.[1]. If she "raised these subjects for the first time in German" then she introduced them to Germans.Gatoclass (talk) 09:45, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Women's rights better than a word I never heard before, - but that's just me. You might convince me that it is a catchy term, and the source indeed says that she gave what she fought that name. As for "first time", I can't access the offline source, and the article says that she regarded herself as the first, which makes "first" not a fact. I like the phrase in source 2, "fighting against the prejudice that wants to grant women neither a will of their own nor the courage to express it", but see that it's long. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:28, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Just to confirm the off line source says that she re-introduced as German readers may have forgotten Wollstonecraft - I think this is Gerda's point. I do feel we are dancing on the heads of pins (sorry Gerda that means that we are finding very tiny differences in meaning). Pleased to see Gerda is involved as I feel we are sending the wrong message when we re-open a review by a competent reviewer. Victuallers (talk) 11:24, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Well Vic, I must reject your suggestion that I am nitpicking, but it won't help move this nom forward to have a debate about that. As for "sending the wrong message", however - rechecking of others' approvals is supposed to be standard procedure here at DYK and I think it's the frequent failure to do so that if anything "sends the wrong message" to reviewers. So I'm not going to apologize for doing my job. I will concede though that some of my earlier comments on this thread were unintentionally blunt - due in part to tiredness and an at times very slow editing window on this PC which is very frustrating to use - so I will apologize for that. Now can we please try to get back to finding a hook we can all agree on? How about we just went with something simple:
ALT4: * ... that Emilie von Berlepsch is considered an early proponent of women‍ '​s rights in Germany? - the article says as much in the intro, though it would need to be cited. Gatoclass (talk) 06:06, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
It is a summary of cited material which I could approve, but I find it a bit boring and a bit misleading because readers unfamiliar with the times - thanks for the infobox! - might expect rights to vote etc. Can one of you write a hook using the above-mentioned quote which describes one of her topics exactly? I could but then we would need another reviewer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:44, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Look, I'm fine with going with your proposal for a hook, the problem is that someone needs to add it to the article first. Gatoclass (talk) 12:08, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Look, I can't because first to introduce a fact in the article and then approve it seems to go against the rulez, written or unwritten. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:16, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Gerda, you are the one who proposed this idea for a hook. You are not permitted to verify your own hook, so if you want this for a hook, I or someone else will have to verify it. Gatoclass (talk) 15:18, 21 October 2015 (UTC)




Articles created/expanded on September 10[edit]

Apple Pencil

Created by Kutchkutch (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 02:39, 15 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough and long enough. Well-sourced from reliable sources throughout and no sign of copyvio or bias. QPQ done. However, there is the problem with reference 4, that it is saying something not supported by the source. '''tAD''' (talk) 20:29, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Fixed. sst 05:22, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg new enough, long enough, inline citations and refs checks, interesting and factual hook. Good 2 go.BabbaQ (talk) 12:21, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I went to promote this but I couldnt see where in the ref (in the lede) that it says you cannot use the Apple pencil with other makes (obvious but not stated) or models. Sorry if I missed it. Victuallers (talk) 15:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Adding icon to reflect issue above that prevents promotion. Fix needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Fixed. sst 04:57, 19 October 2015 (UTC)



Sigala (musician), Good Times (Ella Eyre song)

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 21:56, 10 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Sigala (musician) was created 07:52, 23 August 2015, but wasn't nominated until 21:56, 10 September 2015, over two weeks later. However, there was a five-fold expansion of the article that began 01:09, 5 September 2015‎, so I believe it qualifies as new enough. With a prose portion just over 2000 characters, it is also long enough. It follows NPOV and uses inline citations.
    • Some of the chart listings cited in the Sigala article are not the ones listed in Template:Record Charts, so I'm not sure how reliable they are as sources; are they all the official websites of the organizations that track the charts, or competing chart producers, or are some perhaps merely reporting other organizations' information?
    • A more serious issue I discovered while reviewing your sources is that you have not cited enough independent reliable sources that provide significant coverage of Sigala. The first DigitalSpy article cited is a mere mention; while the second DigitalSpy article cited is substantive enough to count towards notability, it isn't currently being cited for anything but the details of Sigala's second single. (You also need to change the ref name of one or the other to correct that ref error.) The only other substantive coverage is from Coda Music Agency, which appears to be Sigala's agent and thus not independent. I'm willing to AGF that sources to establish notability exist enough to not nominate the article for deletion (though another editor might) but I don't think an article on an apparently non-notable subject should move forward as a DYK.
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Sigala (musician) needs work before the nomination can proceed. I am pausing here and not looking at Good Times (Ella Eyre song) yet, but if it has similar issues, Launchballer, I recommend you get on those, too, without waiting for a review to detail them. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 18:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Sigala passes WP:MUSICBIO#C2, so notability isn't a problem. I'll have a look for sources later.--Launchballer 00:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on September 11[edit]

Vida Latham

Created by Keilana (talk). Self-nominated at 18:51, 17 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Review, acceptable stuff -> New enough (barely). Long enough. ALT1 is sourced, short enough and better, plus I added "in both fields". Acceptable rephrasing. QPQ done. No image. starship.paint ~ KO 04:24, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
  • @Keilana: issues to be solved starship.paint ~ KO 05:36, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
  • (a) Source 2 states she received some early education in Cambridge, not London.
Source 1 says "University of London" for her MSc in 1889.
  • Yes, but we're talking about early education here ... Masters is already postgraduate.
  • (b) Source 1 does not mention that the College of Pharmacy was Northwestern's
Both the College of Pharmacy and College of Physicians and Surgeons were Northwestern.
  • I'm going to need a source for that. Source 1 uses the same ";" between all her positions, if they used a "," before the College of Pharmacy I'd be more understanding. Plus, Source 1 says the College of Physicians and Surgeons is from Chicago.
  • (c) microanalyst and physician from 1929, not 1931, according to Source 1?
Fixed.
  • (d) Source 2 states she moved to Chicago in the US as she could not practice dentistry in the UK with an American degree
I don't think this contradicts anything in the article - are you asking me to clarify/add this?
  • Yes, please add this.
  • (e) Source 2 does not state she published her first papers in 1888, It does state that they were on pain and tooth anatomy.
Fixed.
  • (f) Source 1 does not state cancer, but pulp neoplasm (tumor?)
In this case it means a malignant neoplasm, aka cancer.
  • I'm afraid I can't accept the assumption that the neoplasms she researched on are solely malignant ones. Source 1 simply does not indicate that.
  • (g) Not entirely sure the lede saying "known for her work in publishing and her research on oral surgery and anatomy." is reflective. Suggest removing, or I need convincing.
She was the editor of several prominent journals and "published extensively" in reference to her dental research. I think this is more than enough to support this sentence. Keilana (talk) 19:30, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Well now that I re-read the article, I'm thinking, why restrict it to merely oral surgery and anatomy? How about adding "oral tumours" because there's tooth pulp and palate tumors plus oral cavity cysts as well - you should probably group them so. starship.paint ~ KO 05:30, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
Ada Lovelace Day is October 13th and this one might be relevant. Please consider helping move articles Victuallers (talk) 23:34, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Hi, sorry, my life has been nuts the past few weeks with WikiConference USA and a scientific conference I'm attending with my lab. I'll get to this soon hopefully. My apologies for taking so long. Keilana (talk) 22:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)







Articles created/expanded on September 13[edit]

IWGP Heavyweight Championship (IGF)

Created by Wrestlinglover (talk). Self-nominated at 12:31, 13 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg new enough, long enough, inline citations and refs checks, interesting and factual hook. Good 2 go.BabbaQ (talk) 12:23, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg BabbaQ, I don't see any mention that you checked for close paraphrasing or neutrality, the other "within policy" checks. Can you please do so to complete the review? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:35, 18 October 2015 (UTC)



Jared Tebo, 2007 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship

  • ... that the 2007 and 2013 world champion, Jared Tebo took up radio-controlled racing as an alternative to regular hospital visits caused by motocrossing?
  • ALT1:... that the 2007 and 2013 world champion, Jared Tebo considered radio-controlled racing to be motocrossing without the hospital visits?

Created by Donnie Park (talk). Self-nominated at 23:37, 13 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment: Will prefer this to be posted on its opening day. October 3—5 (2015 IFMAR 1:10 Electric Off-Road World Championship, 2WD class) as Tebo is the defending champion in that class.

Articles created/expanded on September 14[edit]



Bibi Bourelly

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 00:03, 14 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I have concerns about using a Forbes article as a main source for a BLP. The Forbes article is written by a "contributor", not a staff, and may not be sufficiently reliable. As a side note, I would recommend linking this article from the Bitch Better Have My Money article. sstflyer 16:55, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
I regard all interviews as inherently reliable; information from interviews can be sourced not to the paper, but to the artist.--Launchballer 18:10, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
That is an unusual view Lbr. Many people exaggerate or underplay their contribution. Wikipedia is meant to be an objective view and interviews are usually a subjective view. Victuallers (talk) 10:12, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 17[edit]

Marathwada Liberation Day

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:05, 23 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough. Hook short enough and sourced, but written very poorly - read on. No neutrality problems found, no copyright problems found. QPQ unnecessary and image properly licensed. I'd like to see a copyedit carried out before I approve this, as both it and the hook are written very poorly indeed. If you ask the copyeditor, (s)he may submit a hook for you.--Launchballer 00:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 18[edit]

2008 TNA World X Cup Tournament

5x expanded by Wrestlinglover (talk). Self-nominated at 01:23, 19 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment: the hook is not interesting at all. A world cup tournament would of course have participants from around the world. A better hook should be featured on the Main Page.--Skr15081997 (talk) 10:40, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
  • The issue here is this is a very very rare event in wrestling. WWE does not have tournaments consisting of wrestlers from other promotions. This was only the third one ever to happen and had travel issues involved. I find it very interesting since it doesn't happen much.--WillC 20:25, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
  • @Skr15081997: - Can I suggest that we take your point and point it up - this will need a ref adding - Japan the USA and Mexico were 75% of the contestants Victuallers (talk) 13:01, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • (alt1) ... that the World X Cup Tournament in 2008 had wrestlers in four teams, Japan, Mexico, USA and the rest of the world?
  • If the above can get approved I'm indifferent. The reference named WV4 should be able to cover the above fact. If needed, a report of Victory Road can also cover it.--WillC 22:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on September 19[edit]

Ragged Ass Road (street)

Looking north along Ragged Ass Road from Brock Drive
Looking north along Ragged Ass Road from Brock Drive
Ragged Ass Road official sign
Ragged Ass Road official sign
  • ... that although Ragged Ass Road has had that name since 1970, the city of Yellowknife did not put it on official street signs (pictured) until very recently?

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 16:32, 20 September 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg The article has been expanded 5X and seems reasonably compliant with policy. I'm less happy with the hooks. Their sourcing seems ok but they are a bit dull and I reckon we can do better. I'll be suggesting another ALT but can't approve that myself. There's no QPQ but I'm not sure how many DYKs the nominator has done. And there might be an issue with the picture of the road sign – as it is text in a particular visual form, which is sold commercially as a souvenir, there might be some intellectual property rights to consider. To be safe, we should use a picture which shows the street more than just the sign. Andrew D. (talk) 13:57, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
There is a QPQ ... see "reviewed" above. As for the street sign, that's the one the city placed. Even if it were, text in a common font that doesn't make a complete sentence (I think) is ineligible for copyright, in both the US and Canada (We wouldn't have this Commons category otherwise. Daniel Case (talk) 04:37, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for pointing out the QPQ - I have trouble registering the word "reviewed" as meaning the same thing. I take your point about the copyright issue and would be happy to pass on this aspect myself. That just leaves the hook to be decided. Andrew D. (talk) 07:10, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Added the city it's in to the hook ... always a good idea to tell people where these places are. Daniel Case (talk) 04:38, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've taken it out again. My thinking is that hooks should be brief so that the reader can easily grasp them and should be mysterious so that the reader is intrigued and clicks through to the article. Andrew D. (talk) 07:06, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Fine, but I also think that not at least giving a clue where something like this is constitutes systemic bias. Daniel Case (talk) 17:35, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • We need a third opinion, in any case, to choose between the hooks. I'm not understanding your point about bias. We're providing a clue by giving them a link to click. The more we tell them in the hook, the less likely they are to click through on the link. Anyway, let's see what the next reviewer says. Andrew D. (talk) 18:05, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
My point is that we are assuming everyone who reads DYK lives in North America, an assumption some people resent because it's not true. I've written a lot of NRHP articles about historic places, and always, always, in the hook, I have included at least the city and state (I don't think it will make much of a difference as far as the mystery goes, because a) most Canadians know Yellowknife is one of their country's territorial capitals but might not be sure of which one (especially since Nunavut was sawed off the NT 16 years ago), b) most Americans might know Yellowknife is somewhere in Canada but not much more than that and c) outside of North America, the name "Yellowknife" won't ring any bells. Just my (ahem) case. Daniel Case (talk) 02:39, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Here's the third opinion. C2: Don't assume everyone worldwide knows what country or sport you're talking about DYK Supplementary guidelines. The practice at DYK is that if the nominator doesn't like the wording of a suggested ALT, then the ALT is struck, and the nomination moves on. — Maile (talk) 20:51, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. So I have put "Yellowknife" back in. Really, while the original is my personal preference (if used with the street sign picture, it will get clicks), due to its direct focus on the road's unusual name, I usually defer to whoever puts it in the set. And now I have no problem with ALT2, if that's what we want to go with. Daniel Case (talk) 05:27, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
If Daniel prefers his original hook, that's fine and understandable. As we still don't have agreement on any hook, I have created two versions of ALT2 (2a and 2b) so readers may see the difference which is in dispute. Note that I make no assumption about the reader's knowledge - the reader is obviously not expected to know where a particular street is. The point of the shorter version is that it is short per the recommendation at WP:DYK, "When you write the hook, please make it "hooky", that is, short, punchy, catchy, and likely to draw the readers in to wanting to read the article. Shorter hooks are preferred to longer ones, as long as they don't misstate the article content." Andrew D. (talk) 06:38, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I just noticed another DYK with the hook "that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police believe Atsumi Yoshikubo intended to disappear when she was last seen on Yellowknife's Ingraham Trail a year ago today, but won't be specific about why?" That's too long IMO but the significant factor is that it mentions Yellowknife too and Daniel seems to be creating a series of DYKs about this place. If they all mention the name of the town in the hook, then we may get complaints that this is boosterism like Gibraltarpedia. It would be better to vary the format of the hooks to avoid this impression. Andrew D. (talk) 14:39, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Whatever. You try to write that Yoshikubo hook with fewer characters and impart the information accurately.Face-smile.svg

I really don't see how, given supplmental DYK rule C2 quoted above, there's any reason to argue over this. I've written series of articles which I took to DYK in the past all of which were based on visits to a particular place, and said so in the hooks. About seven and a half years ago, I had one such batch based on photos of National Register-listed buildings in Poughkeepsie, which I uploaded and then developed into articles based on their nomination forms for the Register. After a spate of these had run relatively close to each other, someone complained on WT:DYK. The consensus there speaks for itself—basically, this is going to happen in the normal course of things, so no big deal. Editors, as noted, often work on groups of related article subjects and bring them to DYK when they find interesting facts out about them while doing the research, like Jakec has been doing with all these streams in Northeastern Pennsylvania, which I presume are (as with Poughkeepsie in my case) around where he lives.

So it is with me here. I visited Yellowknife briefly last summer. I spent one night—or, more accurately for Yellowknife at that time of year, one four-hour period of civil twilight—at the Explorer Hotel, where Yoshikubo stayed as well, with my father (I may yet write a short article on the hotel, too). We were on our way to a white-water rafting trip in the Arctic, which will ultimately lead to some more new articles and expansion of existing ones (primarily but not exclusively related to Inuvik), the same as I have been doing with things I saw and, in many cases, photographed while walking around town.

To address directly the issue that caused the Gibraltar problem, I do not have any relationship with any person or business in Yellowknife that has influenced my editing or decisions to nominate the articles I have developed for DYK. I simply thought our coverage of Yellowknife could bear improvement, and that I could contribute.

I would also add that putting the place associated with something like a building, street, landform etc. in the hook is also helpful to the editors who put sets together in ensuring that they assemble truly diverse sets of hooks which reflects Wikipedia's global readership. There have been too many instances for me to easily recall and link to where people on T:MP have complained (and rightly so) about a preponderance of U.S. and/or U.K.-related hooks in DYK. Those complaints are, I think, more likely to occur when people only realize where the article subject is located after clicking. Daniel Case (talk) 17:51, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Symbol question.svg The hooks themselves are definitely sufficiently hooky (I think that we could say anything with "Ragged Ass Road" in it and people would click on it). I would lean to ALT2; it's better-supported by citations than ALT0 and more interesting than ALT1. Alternatively, we could go with ALT3: ... that Ragged Ass Road is said to be one of the most famous streets in Canada?, though that would require a duplicate citation. Also, this is a minor issue, but it seems to be just short of 5X. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 18:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)



One Hundred And Eighty

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 22:21, 19 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough. Long enough. QPQ done. Both references have "Missing or empty title=". Could you add URLs for the relevant webpages please? Hook is "hooky" enough. Where the hook fact appears in the article, there needs to be a citaition at the end of that sentence, not just the end of the paragraph. Not yet checked for close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism. Edwardx (talk) 13:20, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Both fixed. I'd filled in both, but not the series parameter. That must be a common error - where can I have a bot do it?--Launchballer 14:36, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg Thanks. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm still struggling to review this properly. As far as I can figure it, the main source seems to be an episode that you watched. On the one hand, this source mostly supports content similar to a movie plot, which wouldn't need to be cited as such. On the other hand, it might be seen by some as skirting close to WP:OR. As for the hook, "£500" has a citation, but it is to that episode again; the "20,000 jackpot" needs a cite. It would be most appreciated if you could hunt online for more webpages to support the article! Edwardx (talk) 14:27, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, I've added a cite to the jackpot.--Launchballer 10:45, 3 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on September 20[edit]

Country Joe and the Fish

Country Joe and the Fish in 1967
Country Joe and the Fish in 1967

Improved to Good Article status by TheGracefulSlick (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 08:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Find another hook. Technically, "among" means they were standing around at a festival where other bands appeared. And refers to the unsourced sentence While the band waited to record their debut album, they were present at the Human Be-In, along with other influential San Francisco musical acts including Jefferson Airplane, Big Brother and the Holding Company, and Quicksilver Messenger Service. And even there, since they had not even yet recorded an album, "influential" is a POV if meant to refer to Country Joe. The lone source at the end of that paragraph does not mention influence, and is mostly Country Joe looking back at the 1960s. The article does not give any examples of their influence, but focuses on their brief recording and performing career. — Maile (talk) 21:02, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
  • @GrammarFascist: per your comment on my talk page. I was making a comment above, not doing a review. Sorry for the confusion, but you are more than welcome to do a review of this nomination. — Maile (talk) 12:04, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying, Maile66. Right then, here we go, SSTflyer:

  • Article was nominated within a week of its promotion to GA. It is hence more than long enough and within policy, particularly as to neutrality, use of inline citations, and (based on 7 spot checks) avoidance of close paraphrasing or other copyright issues. However:
    • I'd like to see a citation for the sentence "The EP fulfilled the band's ambitions to incorporate electric instruments into their music, effectively melding the instrumentals and pioneering an early template for the musical subgenre of acid rock."
    • Citation would also be desirable for "All the while, the group looked to capitalize on the momentum from Woodstock and their appearance in the film, Zachariah, by releasing their fifth album, CJ Fish, in May 1970."
    • The formatting of the citations should be standardized, particularly as some of the works cited, e.g. The Independent, are not in italics as they should be. (This does not count against the DYK review.)
  • I agree that the original hook was not sourced as well as it should have been. ALT1 and ALT2 are both strong hooks, short enough and interesting enough. I also think the image works equally well with either ALT. However:
    • Since "The Fish" is Barry Melton's nickname, it should be in quotation marks in the hook.
    • The sentence "The first line-up of Country Joe and the Fish formed in mid-1965, when Country Joe McDonald (vocals, acoustic guitar) and Barry "The Fish" Melton (lead guitar, vocals) came together as a duo", which substantiates ALT1, is unreferenced. I suspect the reference at the end of the following sentence is meant to cover it, and that's fine by normal Wikipedia standards, but for DYK the hook's citation must come no later than the end of the statement asserting the hook fact(s). Should be easily fixed.
    • The sentence "The song met unprecedented exposure among the band's young audience after a performance at the Schaefer Music Festival in New York City, in the summer of 1968", which substantiates ALT2, is also unreferenced. I suspect that, again, the reference at the end of the following sentence is meant to cover it. Should similarly be easily fixed.
  • QPQ is done and image appears to be properly in the public domain.

Symbol question.svg Excellent choice of nominations, SSTflyer (and excellent work on bringing the article up to GA by TheGracefulSlick). Once the few issues mentioned above are addressed this will be good to go. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 14:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)









Articles created/expanded on September 21[edit]

Al-Istibsar

5x expanded by Saff V. (talk). Self-nominated at 09:54, 28 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Expansion and length are good. Your inline citation, however, seems to say it is the third book in the collection. I'd reword the hook to say it is a "book", rather than a collection, to avoid confusion, and would also remove the word "great" as I think that's POV. Also where is you QPQ? Freikorp (talk) 23:22, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Freikorp Thanks for your review. This DYK is 5th DYK and I have 4 DYK. So, QPQ not include me. I removed the "great" word in the hooks. Can you explain more about book and collection? What should i do? Saff V. (talk) 12:42, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I understand you do not need a QPQ. I've reworded the hook and ALT myself, so you don't have to worry about it. Now that these issues are addressed i'm taking a closer look at the article before I approve it. Should finish doing this tomorrow. Freikorp (talk) 13:06, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The hook is cited and the QPQ is not needed. Though i'm afraid this article may need re-writing to appear on the main page. The grammar is difficult to understand at times. I have reworded this where possible however have been unable to do this at certain points as I am unsure what is trying to be said. For example "In specific print of book, 5558 Hadiths have been reported that is caused by manner of counting" – I have an idea of what this might be trying to say, but since the source is in Arabic and I can't read it I don't feel comfortable rewording it in case my understanding is incorrect. I'm also not sure if the formatting is appropriate. The article seems to focus more on the history of the author than the actual subject of the article, and information in the author section seems to be duplicated in the background section. This one may need attention from someone who is more experienced in the subject area. My changes to the article can be seen here. Freikorp (talk) 00:34, 21 October 2015 (UTC)



1989 (Ryan Adams album)

5x expanded by Keegan (talk) and Sendu1984 (talk). Self-nominated by Keegan at 06:40, 23 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This is a very nitpicky point, but I can't find any sources that say, definitively, that Taylor Swift wrote the lyrics for every song on the album. At the moment, you support this claim by citing the Amazon page for Ryan Adams' album, but I could not find information about authorship there. I also looked at other sources; I found some sources that credit her as a "composer" for every song on the album (see, e.g., this source), but how do we know she didn't compose music for lyrics that were written by someone else? -- Notecardforfree (talk) 15:23, 19 October 2015 (UTC)





Articles created/expanded on September 22[edit]

Tracy Dahl

  • ... that Tracy Dahl's voice has been described as "filled with sunshine, rainbows and laser light"?

Created by Smrondeau (talk). Nominated by Rainbow unicorn (talk) at 23:50, 23 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. It was created via "Articles for creation" and is largely neutral but a bit peacocky in places. The hook fact is well-cited and I didn't detect any policy issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 06:12, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg I came by to promote this, noted the peacock comment, and did some copyediting on the article to bring it up to Wikipedia standards. I added several "when?" tags to clarify her debut dates. Yoninah (talk) 00:41, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Yoninah, I found the date for one [2] but I couldn't find the others. They all might be in the Opera Canada source, it's on Questia but I don't have full access to it. Rainbow unicorn (talk) 20:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I'm not sure if the page creator is going to show up again. I went ahead and put the information into chronological order and added a source for her Australian performances. I deleted the "when?" tags because that's how the information appears in the online source, and it really doesn't make or break this DYK nomination. Restoring tick per Cwmhiraeth's review. Yoninah (talk) 19:23, 22 October 2015 (UTC)




Edward Hart (settler)

  • ... that although the town clerk, Edward Hart, wrote the Flushing Remonstrance of 1657, no one knows who most inspired its moving appeal for freedom of conscience in colonial New Netherland.

Created by Delabrede (talk). Self-nominated at 19:10, 22 September 2015 (UTC).

Lizzie Halliday

Lizzie Halliday
Lizzie Halliday

Created by Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk). Self-nominated at 23:29, 23 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Please conduct a full review that addresses the DYK criteria. sstflyer 16:37, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Needs a full review. Jim Carter 15:48, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
  • comment only - Interesting woman - its obvious that you have tried to avoid some of the more sensationalist reports.- looking down the sources I see that some are called blogs. Those that are recounting newspaper verbatim seem fine (to me) - although you could include the newspaper details in a ref and use the blog as the url. The John Conway blog seems fine but this is one man making his own posting without any peer review or references - I would avoid this if poss Victuallers (talk) 13:28, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on September 23[edit]

Scaptotrigona postica

  • ... that Scaptotrigona postica workers can trace the scent markers of workers from other colonies in order to find food sources?

Created/expanded by Mira.tbaum (talk). Self-nominated at 04:01, 2 October 2015 (UTC).


Lenuzzi's Horseshoe

Created by Daß Wölf (talk). Self-nominated at 18:47, 29 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Okay, here is another one:
  • ...from the slightly silly department... GregorB (talk) 09:07, 30 September 2015 (UTC)




Fireweed Studio

Front view of cabin, 2015
Front view of cabin, 2015

5x expanded by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 02:21, 25 September 2015 (UTC).






Articles created/expanded on September 24[edit]

Mercedes Gleitze

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 12:46, 27 September 2015 (UTC).




Articles created/expanded on September 25[edit]

Ernst Beyeler

  • ... that Ernst Beyeler, "the greatest art dealer since the war", left a collection worth at least $1.85 billion when he died in 2010?
  • Reviewed: to be done
  • Comment: other hooks welcome

Created by Edwardx (talk) and Philafrenzy (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 22:38, 2 October 2015 (UTC).

Bombus hyperboreus

Created/expanded by Megxb (talk). Self-nominated at 16:50, 1 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Great work with your first DYK nomination! The expansion is from 480 characters to 8,054 characters, which is definitely enough. The article is neutral and cites sources with inline citations. I may be missing something obvious here, but I cannot find the hook fact mentioned in the article. sst 09:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Ah I think it may have been removed. I can change the hook fact to the Bombus hyperboreus is a parasitic bee that invades other species' nests maybe? Does that work? Megxb (talk) 03:43, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Yeah, change it. sst 08:33, 19 October 2015 (UTC)


Nexus 5X, Nexus 6P

Created by AkshayAnand (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 02:57, 1 October 2015 (UTC).


Umaid Bhawan Palace

Umaid Bhawan Palace
Umaid Bhawan Palace
  • ... that when the Umaid Bhawan Palace (pictured) opened its gilded doors in 1943 it was considered as one of the largest royal residences in the world?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:51, 1 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg @Nvvchar: I strongly prefer ALT1 and would suggest you strike the main hook, as "gilded" is non-neutral and "considered" as one of the largest royal residences is a bizarre wording, as it either is or it isn't. For ALT1, everything is good to go, as the image is fine and free, the hook is cited, interesting, and neutral, and the hook meets formatting guidelines. 5x expansion accepted. Once again, good to go for ALT1 only. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 02:41, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


Dana Records

Created by 78.26 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:57, 29 September 2015 (UTC).




The Punishment of Lust

The Punishment of Lust, 1891
The Punishment of Lust, 1891
Giovanni Segantini - The Punishment of Lust - Google Art Project.jpg
  • ... that the Walker Art Gallery changed the name of Giovanni Segantini's painting The Punishment of Lust (pictured) to avoid offending the Victorian public?

Created by Belle (talk). Self-nominated at 13:39, 25 September 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Interesting topic, on good sources. I am afraid I like the complete image better than the crop. It should be pictured! In the description, does everybody know "in limbo"? "the inclusion of withered trees symbolises" - can you include who says so? I like the original hook, giving a feeling for time and taste. Can you get a bit more of "The mysterious atmosphere set by the painting is in line with the painter's metaphysical views about the connection between human and natural life." in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerda Arendt (talkcontribs) 10:34, 07 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning up after me, Mandarax, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:10, 11 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on September 26[edit]

Picturesque Palestine, Sinai, and Egypt

The cave under the Dome of the Rock, from Picturesque Palestine
The cave under the Dome of the Rock, from Picturesque Palestine
  • ... that Social Life in Egypt, an 1884 supplement to Picturesque Palestine, argued that poor treatment of women was Egypt's primary stumbling block in modernizing itself?
  • Reviewed: Professor X
  • Notes: Pic for OP: Social Life in Egypt.jpg. Pic for ALT1: Charles William Wilson.jpg. Pic for ALT2 & ALT3: Picturesque Palestine, Division I.jpg

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 14:21, 3 October 2015 (UTC).


Referendums in the Netherlands

Created by L.tak (talk). Self-nominated at 22:03, 1 October 2015 (UTC).



Bad Timing (Adventure Time)

  • ... that one critic described the creatures comprising the outer margins of "Bad Timing" as a mute chorus?
  • ALT1:... that "Bad Timing", an Adventure Time episode, is visually framed to have its main action occur in the center, while polygonal creatures comprise the outer margins?
  • ALT2:... that "Bad Timing" was called the pièce de résistance of Adventure Time?
  • Reviewed: Pending

Converted from a redirect by 23W (talk). Self-nominated at 05:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC).



Yusuf al-'Azma

Portrait of Yusuf al-Azma, 1920
Portrait of Yusuf al-Azma, 1920

5x expanded by Al Ameer son (talk). Self-nominated at 23:01, 28 September 2015 (UTC).



List of Padma Bhushan award recipients (1954–1959)

Homi Jehangir Bhabha
Homi Jehangir Bhabha
  • ... that Padma Bhushan, India's third highest civilian award, was instituted in 1954, and the "father of Indian bomb" (pictured) was one of its first recipients?
  • Reviewed: High diving
  • Comment: Would be nice to get promoted on 30 October, Homi Jehangir Bhabha's 106th birthday

5x expanded by Vivvt (talk). Self-nominated at 19:13, 26 September 2015 (UTC).

  • I've tweaked the hook slightly, in the interests of concision. Edwardx (talk) 11:55, 30 September 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on September 27[edit]

Rosamind Julius

Most successful chair
Most successful chair
  • ... that Rosamind Julius and her husband were the entrepreneurs behind the world's most commercially successful chair (pictured)?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 15:20, 1 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Note: This nomination was created and deleted by Anomiebot due to a simple error which is now corrected. I have allowed this to be renominated as it was nominated in good time Victuallers (talk) 22:47, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Ada Lovelace Day? Oct 13th Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is long enough and the original DYK nomination was made in good time. The hook facts are reliably sourced with an inline citation and the image is appropriately licensed. The article is neutral and I detected no policy issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:14, 16 October 2015 (UTC)


Deep frying

  • Comment: Improved to GA substantially by the WP:TAFI project. I have fewer than five DYKs, so I'm exempt from QPQ.

Improved to Good Article status by Northamerica1000 (talk), Winner 42 (talk), and Bananasoldier (talk). Nominated by Esquivalience (talk) at 01:15, 5 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The article definitely meets DYK criteria (although the nomination is barely new enough), but where is the citation for the hook? sst 14:38, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Rapid strep test

  • ALT1: (feel free to suggest different hooks, since I am not familiar with the subject)
  • Reviewed: Richard Roma

Improved to Good Article status by J Milburn (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 16:45, 2 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Article GA passed on Sept 27 and nominated for DYK on October 2.
  • Prose and character length of article is long enough
  • Interesting hook; sourced and cited.
  • QPQ completed.

Symbol confirmed.svg  — Calvin999 11:42, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg Hi, I came by to promote this. I see the hook fact in the lead; would you mind pointing out where it appears with an inline cite in the article? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 00:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • This article's really nothing to do with me- I have no opinion! Josh Milburn (talk) 07:14, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I think it's unlikely that we're going to find either the GA nominator (who was a two-edit IP where the nomination was the second edit) or the editor who was responsible for the major rewrite and expansion, Realitas (now Realitas~enwiki after account names were made unique across all the Wikimedia sites), whose sole Wikipedia edit was that expansion. I've changed the DYKmake from J Milburn to Realitas~enwiki. Since the GA reviewer didn't request a single change—and a significant fact in the lede that isn't in the body of the article is something that a GA review is supposed to point out and have fixed—that's also a dead end. Looks like this is all up to you to address, sst. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:07, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • OK then. ALT1: ... that rapid strep tests may help to limit the use of antibiotics in viral illnesses? sst 04:55, 19 October 2015 (UTC)


Bombus hyperboreus

Created/expanded by Megxb (talk). Self-nominated at 16:50, 1 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Great work with your first DYK nomination! The expansion is from 480 characters to 8,054 characters, which is definitely enough. The article is neutral and cites sources with inline citations. I may be missing something obvious here, but I cannot find the hook fact mentioned in the article. sst 09:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Ah I think it may have been removed. I can change the hook fact to the Bombus hyperboreus is a parasitic bee that invades other species' nests maybe? Does that work? Megxb (talk) 03:43, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Yeah, change it. sst 08:33, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Haute-Loire

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:42, 1 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Expanded recently and enough, hook is interesting, cited reliably inline in the article, within policy, and short enough. QPQ done. Good to go. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 02:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Tumbes sparrow

  • ... that the typical habitat of the Tumbes sparrow is arid scrub, open dry woodland and semi-desert?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:30, 29 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article size and expansion fine, and the article is adequately referended. Hook is neutral, interesting, cited in the article, and verified in online reference. No close paraphrasing detected. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 20:52, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Scott Duncan (referee)

Duncan refereeing in 2014
Duncan refereeing in 2014

Created by Mattythewhite (talk). Self-nominated at 21:20, 28 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Dull hook. Everyone has to start their career somehow, somewhere. Unless there's something interesting about this particular match. Daniel Case (talk) 21:44, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Hook changed to a involve a more prominent match. Mattythewhite (talk) 14:07, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. The image is appropriately licensed and the hook fact is sourced. The article is neutral and I did not detect any copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:04, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg There is close paraphrasing from the BBC source, although the source is talking about Oliver and the article is talking about Duncan:
  • Source: over their decision not to punish their vice president for discriminating against a female referee.
  • Article: over their decision to not punish their vice-president for discriminating against a female referee. Yoninah (talk) 00:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Ni no Kuni mobile games

Created by Rhain1999 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:44, 28 September 2015 (UTC).

Music of Ni no Kuni

Joe Hisaishi
Joe Hisaishi

Created by Rhain1999 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC).

Ni no Kuni: Dominion of the Dark Djinn, Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch

Converted from a redirect by Rhain1999 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:02, 28 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Articles is recently converted from redirects, and is new enough, easily long enough, and neutral. The hook is interesting, long enough, and supported by reliable sources. Personally prefer ALT1 and ALT2 (never heard of Dominion of the Dark Djinn before actually). QPQ done. Well done. AdrianGamer (talk) 03:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
  • AdrianGamer, since you were the person who reviewed this at GA, you're unfortunately not eligible to review it here per WP:DYKSG#H2: You're not allowed to approve your own hook or article, nor may you review an article if it's a recently listed Good Article that you either nominated or reviewed for GA (though you can still nominate it for DYK). Later addition: I hadn't realized that your GA review was subsequent to your review here. However, there was a major issue with your review (regarding split/spun-off articles; see below), and now that you have done the GA review, which is the reason White Witch can qualify for DYK, you cannot continue the DYK review. 03:15, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Rhain1999, I'm confused about where the articles came from. The edit summary that created Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch with 83,944 bytes says "Splitting from DS version." This is not at all clear to many readers such as myself, and the Ni no Kuni: Dominion of the Dark Djinn's creation summary of "Splitting from PS3 version." is similarly opaque. Such edit summaries should always contain a link to the actual originated article; I think that the material for White Witch came from the main Ni no Kuni article, and I'm guessing for Dark Djinn as well, but is that the only source for imported material? I'd like to suggest placing a clear template to that effect on both article talk pages. It looks like the Wikipedia plot summary for White Witch was copied onto at least one YouTube video page, but since it dates from July 2013 and the White Witch article was seemingly started in August 2015, without that clear origin it looks like Wikipedia did the copying when it was (upon further investigation) definitely vice versa. See WP:COPYWITHIN for instructions on how to fix this copyright problem, especially in its WP:RIA section, which will probably involve using the "Copied" template on both new and originating articles' talk pages. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:30, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed by new, independent reviewer. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:30, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Note for reviewer: both articles were split off from an earlier article, and as such any material copied from that article does not count as new, and further (per WP:DYKSG#A5) must be 5x expanded. Because White Witch was subsequently made a GA, that supersedes any expansion requirement—looking at it now, it clearly didn't qualify as a 5x expansion prior to the GA listing—but for Dark Djinn, it still holds. Be sure to check what was copied against the current size of that article. (Of course, if Dark Djinn should be listed as a GA—it was nominated on October 10, but a review has not yet begun—it becomes eligible for DYK on that basis regardless of expansion.) BlueMoonset (talk) 03:15, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for that, BlueMoonset. A lot of the information from the Wrath of the White Witch article originated from the Ni no Kuni (you can find it here). If you don't understand much about the games, it's a bit complicated to explain: the PS3 version of the game (Wrath of the White Witch) is very similar to the DS version (Dominion of the Dark Djinn) story-wise, but almost everything else (graphics, gameplay, etc.) is different. I think editors just decided to write about the games as one article, and nobody decided to split the articles (until I came along), even though it was discussed on the talk page. Most of the information from Wrath of the White Witch is my own original text (I adapted the Gameplay section, and edited the Plot, but everything else is original), while almost all of the information from Dominion of the Dark Djinn is original. – Rhain1999 (talk to me) 03:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

George Givot

  • ... that when George Givot played Mae West's character's black lover in the 1931 Broadway play The Constant Sinner, producers had him remove his wig after each performance to show the audience he was white?
  • ALT1:... that when George Givot played Mae West's character's lover in blackface in the 1931 Broadway play The Constant Sinner, producers had him remove his wig after each performance to show patrons he was white?
  • Reviewed: HMS Trial (1744)
  • Comment: The Afd has been withdrawn by the nominator.

5x expanded by Clarityfiend (talk). Self-nominated at 01:11, 28 September 2015 (UTC).

  • I think the hooks would be less cumbersome, and the meaning would be unaffected, if you removed "character's". Edwardx (talk) 10:29, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
  • It's also one way to make sure the hooks are not over the DYK maximum of 200, since they are currently 202 and 204 characters, respectively, and thus too long. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:59, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I thought that "that" wasn't counted. Anyhoo, I'd rather just delete the play title instead.
ALT2: "... that when George Givot played Mae West's character's lover in blackface in a 1931 Broadway play, producers had him remove his wig after each performance to show patrons he was white?" Clarityfiend (talk) 01:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on September 28[edit]

The Internet and cats

  • ALT1:... that CNN estimated there were about the same number of cat pictures on the internet as living humans on earth?
  • ALT2:... that in 2015, the "How Cats Took Over The Internet" exhibit opened at the Museum of the Moving Image in New York?
  • ALT3:... that the annual Internet Cat Video Festival celebrated and awards the Golden Kitty to cat videos?
  • ALT4:... that Tim Berners-Lee was surprised to discover his invention being widely used for kitten content?
  • Comment: Those are just some random ideas for the tagline. You guys can probably come up with something better. We are no where near searching every notable source for all its juicy information, so I'm sure we'll uncover some more exciting facts soon. Also, feel free to drop by and hit the edit button if this topic appeals to you. :)

Created by GliderMaven (talk), Coin945 (talk), McGeddon (talk), and Northamerica1000 (talk). Nominated by Coin945 (talk) at 13:53, 5 October 2015 (UTC).





Moodu Pani

Improved to Good Article status by Kailash29792 (talk). Nominated by Vensatry (talk) at 16:46, 28 September 2015 (UTC).

I support this hook, but it can be "keyboard" without a space. Kailash29792 (talk) 16:58, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Horace Brodzky

Horace Brodzky
Horace Brodzky

Created by Smerus (talk). Self-nominated at 15:53, 28 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough. Long enough. QPQ done. NPOV. WP:AGF on the citations, as none are available online. Nonetheless, the hook fact needs a citation at the end of the article sentence in which it appears. I have confirmed the hook fact to be correct from the Tate catalogue entry for the bronze bust itself. Not possible to confirm that the article is free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism, but the creator has a good track record. Last para needs a cite. Hook is good enough. In my view, the article would look better with headings! Edwardx (talk) 18:05, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for this. I have put in some headings, and a ref for the last para (not I think strictly needed for DYK). Can I point out that, in fact, all the citations are online without subscription requirements, and links are given, so checking should be straightforward. The hook fact was substantiated by the citation at the end of the paragraph, but I have now repeated this at the end of the relevant phrase. I hope this may be sufficient for you to consider the article OK for DYK. Best, --Smerus (talk) 18:17, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you for the headings. Good point about the sources, and I've now run dup detector on them, and found no close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations or plagiarism. Hook cited. All paras cited. Good to go. Edwardx (talk) 14:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on September 29[edit]

Val-d'Oise, L'Isle-Adam, Val-d'Oise

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:48, 4 October 2015 (UTC).



Huawei Watch

  • ... that the Huawei Watch is the first smartwatch of Huawei?
  • ALT1 ... that the Huawei Watch is the company's first smartwatch?

Created by Shwangtianyuan (talk). Self-nominated at 02:51, 29 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Length, newness, hook verified. There is limited close paraphrasing in the following text which has to be modified:
    It's powered by a 1.2 GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 processor with 512MB of RAM and 4GB of internal storage. Sensors include a gyroscope, accelerometer, vibration motor, and heart rate sensor. The Huawei Watch is made of 316L stainless steel with sapphire crystal glass on front. ...There is wireless support for WiFi and Bluetooth 4.1 LE, but there is no GPS receiver for run tracking or mapping without a smartphone connection.
Emphasis indicates where the paraphrasing occurs. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 16:06, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
All done.Shwangtianyuan (talk) 23:24, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Please check the bolded lines and paraphrase them. I just bolded them. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:30, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
Because it is the first time to write the article about smartwatch, so I referred other smartwatch articles and wrote these sentences. Sorry about that. These are the features of this watch.Shwangtianyuan (talk) 23:38, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
I understand. But they can still be rephrased, especially this: but there is no GPS receiver for run tracking or mapping without a smartphone connection. and this: The Huawei Watch is made of 316L stainless steel with sapphire crystal glass on front. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 23:45, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
I rephrased two sentences just now. Please review it. Thank You.Shwangtianyuan (talk) 07:04, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
You did not rephrase this: The Huawei Watch is made of 316L stainless steel with sapphire crystal glass on front.. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 14:45, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
I rephrased this sentence. The current sentence is "The case is 316L stainless steel with sapphire crystal glass on front."Shwangtianyuan (talk) 01:53, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
I don't think we are communicating here. This is almost the same sentence I told you to change. Look at this report. The red sentences are where the close paraphrasing is. Please change all of them. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 02:25, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
All done.Shwangtianyuan (talk) 03:49, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
I have added a better phrased ALT1. Edwardx (talk) 10:24, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you Edwardx. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 14:45, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 1[edit]

St Edmund Church, Godalming, Meadrow Unitarian Chapel, Godalming Friends Meeting House, Salvation Army Hall, Godalming, Godalming Congregational Church

Meadrow Unitarian Chapel, Godalming
Meadrow Unitarian Chapel, Godalming

Created by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:32, 6 October 2015 (UTC).

Umpqua Community College shooting

Created by Ktr101 (talk), Versus101 (talk), AMERIXANPSYCHO (talk), and Alvandria (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 04:49, 6 October 2015 (UTC).

Vasile Morțun

Created by Biruitorul (talk). Self-nominated at 17:13, 5 October 2015 (UTC).

Province of Zamora

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:42, 5 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article size and expansion is fine, and the article is adequately referenced. Hook is neutral and interesting, and the fact is cited in the article. AGF on offline reference. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 10:45, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


The Mother (Gorky novel)

  • ... that The Mother is the best known novel of Maxim Gorky and the only novel of Gorky on the Russian revolutionary movement?

5x expanded by Jim Carter (talk). Self-nominated at 15:32, 3 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Suggested hook tightening:
  • ALT1: ... that The Mother is the best known novel by Maxim Gorky and his only novel on the Russian revolutionary movement? Yoninah (talk) 18:07, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
I support ALT1, thanks Yoninah. Jim Carter 08:44, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Valls, Alt Camp

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:21, 3 October 2015 (UTC).



Program for Action

Converted from a redirect by Epicgenius (talk) and Tdorante10 (talk). Nominated by Epicgenius (talk) at 03:44, 2 October 2015 (UTC).


Louis Fles

Louis Fles
Louis Fles
  • ... that in 1933, accountant and furniture importer Louis Fles (pictured) wrote an anti-Nazi radio address for Vrijdenkers Radio Omroep (VRO) (Freethinkers Radio Broadcasting) that was so strident, it was banned by the Dutch Government?
  • ALT1:... that anti-Nazi activist Louis Fles, (pictured) who was of Jewish ancestry, advocated for the discontinuation of religious observance and replacing it with educational family activities?
  • ALT2:... that the son of Louis Fles (pictured), Dutch socialist and activist, was arrested by the Stalinist regime and later died in prison?

Created/expanded by VaDawn (talk). Self-nominated at 21:07, 1 October 2015 (UTC).


Diptych by Giovanni da Rimini

Scenes from the Lives of the Virgin and other Saints, by Giovanni da Rimini
Scenes from the Lives of the Virgin and other Saints, by Giovanni da Rimini

Created by Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk). Self-nominated at 19:54, 1 October 2015 (UTC).

Symbol voting keep.svg Details on impressive work of art, on good sources, Italian sources accepted AGF, hook ok and sourced. There must be projects to mention on the talk. The image is free and the best hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 4 October 2015 (UTC)



Collateral Damage (Millennium)

Moved to mainspace by Grapple X (talk). Self-nominated at 08:51, 1 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Great detail of info, good sources (yet mostly inaccessible), well lengthened, no bloating, and hook cited. However, can you create hooks about the actor James Marsters, who made guest appearance in the episode? I'd like to create hooks myself, but I must abide to WP:DYKSG rules. George Ho (talk) 20:22, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
    I suppose I could, but I'm not sure anything in there about him would be concise enough for the DYK character limit—the bit about him not being recognised during casting would take a bit of explanation, as I see it. GRAPPLE X 23:52, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
  • How about mentioning just his guest appearance and his role as "Spike"? Concise enough? George Ho (talk) 00:04, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
James Marsters in 2003
James Marsters in 2003

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg I wasn't sure whether you are going to do it, but I have an impulse to do something instead.

I'll leave this to you and another reviewer then. George Ho (talk) 18:41, 3 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on October 2[edit]

Nahem Shoa

Nahem Shoa standing beside Giant Head of Ben
Nahem Shoa standing beside Giant Head of Ben
  • ... that the artist Nahem Shoa (pictured) increased the number of portraits of Black and mixed-race British people on display in British art museums?
  • ALT1:... that some of the British painter Nahem Shoa's portraits (pictured) were painted at up to 15 times life size?
  • Comment: OTRS is pending for the image; we're hopeful it will be reviewed in time for the DYK.

Created by Arttalk1984 (talk) and GrammarFascist (talk). Nominated by GrammarFascist (talk) at 17:19, 6 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The image is nominated for deletion at Wikimedia Commons. It's claimed that the copyright status of the painting is not definite. Mhhossein (talk) 18:59, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • That phrasing is somewhat disingenuous, Mhhossein. You nominated the file for deletion and you "claimed that the copyright status of the painting is not definite" — even though OTRS received Nahem Shoa's declaration before Arttalk1984's. No one else is denying that the artist has licensed the file in a way compatible with its use on Commons and Wikipedia. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 08:04, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
I would not call it "disingenuous" assuming good faith, because there's no contradiction between the nomination and that claim. No one denied the license being granted, rather it was due to an OTRS pending template pasted there. How would you guarantee that both emails are checked? There's only one addressed ticket at the moment. By the way, I withdrew the nomination because an admin said there was no problem as far as he saw. Mhhossein (talk) 10:36, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
What made it disingenuous was the implication that someone else made the claim and you were just reporting it here. (As for WP:AGF, did you have that in mind when you nominated the file for deletion despite it being tagged with one OTRS ticket pending and another accepted?) But thank you for withdrawing the nomination. Perhaps you will exercise more care with future nominations, and not assume which ticket has been assessed. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 14:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Good faith takes a different meaning when it comes to copyright issues. Even now, I think that I did the best thing possible by nominating the file. Unfortunately, the files are suspicious until a volunteer from OTRS team addresses them. I withdrew only due to what the admin said. Please consider that, the nomination was not based on an "assumption" rather a problem existing in the description page of the file. Btw, who made the claim? Mhhossein (talk) 16:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Full review needed now that image issues have been settled. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Province of Cremona

  • ... that sixteenth century irrigation channels assist in the production of rice in the Province of Cremona in northern Italy?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:15, 5 October 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Nice expansion, good sources. I am sorry I don't find Cremona in the book given, nor rice, please explain. To me, the ALT would be nothing new, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: Maybe you looked at a different source? I see the information on rice and canals, mentioning the Province of Cremona, on page 145 of the source (ref 8). I think both hooks are interesting because the cultivation of rice is not what I would have expected to happen in northern Italy. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 16:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Faskally Forest

Faskally Forest
Faskally Forest
  • ... that a colorful event held in the setting of the Faskally Forest (pictured), "The Enchanted Forest" received awards as the "Best Cultural Event in Scotland" consecutively for three years since 2011?

Created by Nvvchar Rosiestep (talk). Self-nominated at 01:34, 5 October 2015 (UTC).



Articles created/expanded on October 3[edit]

Seoul International Fireworks Festival

Seoul international fireworks festival 2011
Seoul international fireworks festival 2011

5x expanded by Misokkkim (talk). Self-nominated at 05:27, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment. Student project, so I hope we can waive some formalities (like date of nomination). Ping me if there are any concerns, and I'll help to deal with them (said student is from my class). Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:33, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Post Malone

Allen Iverson
Allen Iverson

Created by Rainbow unicorn (talk). Self-nominated at 23:47, 7 October 2015 (UTC).



Pendant portraits of Maerten Soolmans and Oopjen Coppit

Pendant portraits side by side
Pendant portraits side by side
  • ... that in September 2015, two pendant portraits (pictured) broke a record for the most expensive pair of pendant wedding portraits ever, and individually the most expensive works by Rembrandt?

Created by Jane023 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:01, 4 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, neutrally written, no close paraphrasing seen. Regarding the title: It is unclear why you're calling them "pendant portraits", as they are full-length portraits. I didn't see that term in the sources. Perhaps just "Portraits" would suffice? Regarding the hook facts, these need to be stated and cited in the article. The first fact, that it broke a record for the most expensive pair of pendant wedding portraits ever, doesn't appear in the article. The second fact, that the purchase price broke a record for the most expensive works by Rembrandt, appears in the article but not in the source. No QPQ necessary for nominator with less than 5 DYKs. Image is PD. Yoninah (talk) 23:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Yoninah, thanks for your comments! The word "pendant" in the case of paintings refers to the fact that the paintings form a pair (a "painting series", but not a larger series than 2) and are meant to hang together. The supporting articles about the paintings individually quote the expert Hofstede de Groot who refers to them explicitly as pendants of each other. Though the word "pendant" may be missing from the current sources in this article, I don't see a need to include a specific reference for this word, as it is so common in this context. The NYtimes source does say that the only comparable Rembrandt is the Aristotle which sold for $2.3 million in 1961. That makes it a pretty safe bet to say this is the most expensive pair and the most paid individually. Not sure what else you can compare it to. This is also the only entry in the List of most expensive paintings, which I linked to. Without access to insurance premiums we can't show the actual market value of others (though I imagine the reason these have appeared on the market in March is due to this enormously expensive show of Late Rembrandt in the Rijksmuseum this year. Jane (talk) 08:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment - Jane is quite correct. Article is good to go, although I wouldnt mention "record-breaking" in the lead image, which also could be enlarged. Symbol confirmed.svg Ceoil (talk) 15:32, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Thank you for your input, @Ceoil:, but it is inappropriate to take over another editor's review and approve the article before I could even respond. I hope to respond to Jane shortly. Yoninah (talk) 18:08, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @Jane023:, OK, I understand now what "pendant portraits" are. But I don't see the proper inline cites in place. Would you mind pointing out where it says in the article that the sale broke a record for the most expensive pair of pendant wedding portraits ever, and which source you're citing? And would you point out where it says in footnote 1, The Guardian source that you're citing, where it broke a record for the most expensive works by Rembrandt? Thank you, Yoninah (talk) 20:30, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Added source that mentions that when the "portrait of Catrina Hooghsaet sold earlier this year, it was a record price for the artist. However, three weeks ago, in an unusual move, the Rijksmuseum and the Louvre in Paris agreed jointly to buy a pair of Rembrandt portraits of Maerten Soolmans and his wife Oopjen Coppit (1634) from the Eric de Rothschild collection, for €160m for the pair". Ceoil (talk) 21:01, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you, @Ceoil:, for adding sources for the record-breaking Rembrandt part. Yoninah (talk) 21:05, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
Cheers Yoninah - this has made headlines in a lot of the trade mags in last weeks. More available. Ceoil (talk) 21:07, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Yes thanks for adding those (quite interesting) references! I moved the NYTimes article ref up too. Yoninah, I think that indeed the Catrina Hooghsaet (1657) portrait and its proposed price of 50 million euros is proof enough that Oopjen's portrait is the most expensive female portrait by Rembrandt, but again, it is more the fact that these Rembrandts don't come on the market at all, and certainly not as a pair. That fact in and of itself means it is a record, since the art market in general has exploded since the 1980s and there have been no Rembrandt wedding pendants sold together since that time. Let me know if you want me to expand it a bit about the Catrina Hooghsaet portrait (could use its own article!) -- I am especially intrigued to read that it came on the market after being lent out to the Rijksmuseum, which just goes to prove my theory that the insurance premiums have gone up so high that it is maybe getting too expensive to hold such paintings if you don't have the paying public to help with the costs of ownership. Jane (talk) 21:26, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

forgot to mention that in general portraits of women are cheaper than portraits of men, and so the pendants are probably valued at 100/60 rather than 80/80 but we will never know for sure, and the Hooghsaet price helps with that. Jane (talk) 21:30, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Jane, the DYK rules specifically state that any facts mentioned in the hook must be sourced. Without sources, your conclusions are considered OR. You have adequately sourced the record-breaking Rembrandt part, but not the most expensive pair of pendant wedding portraits ever part. Would you like to shorten the hook so we can pass this?
  • ALT1: ... that in September 2015, two pendant portraits (pictured) broke a record for the most expensive works by Rembrandt ever sold? Yoninah (talk) 23:17, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2: ... that in September 2015, the portraits of Maerten Soolmans and Oopjen Coppit (pictured) broke the record as the most expensive works by Rembrandt sold at auction? Ceoil (talk) 00:08, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Yes, I could go with either one of those! Meanwhile, I have already been moving on and just created Portrait of Catharina Hooghsaet. Now it's done I see I have to go write her bio too, as I find her quite a fascinating woman besides just the portrait after reading her biography - she managed to achieve a divorce without giving up her wealth and more importantly, was *not* shunned by the Mennonites (which generally happened whenever women left their husbands in those days). Jane (talk) 08:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Great, thanks. Let's go with Ceoil's ALT2, which is more precise. Since I only shortened the original hook for my ALT1 suggestion, I'm going ahead and approving this. ALT2 hook ref verified and cited inline. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 10:08, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Jane (talk) 10:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks for the Portrait of Catharina Hooghsaet article. Have been following that drama via Last chance to buy £35m Rembrandt. Ceoil (talk) 10:23, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Oooh the plot thickens! Thanks for that - I guess then that the Rijksmuseum is in fact the mystery overseas buyer probably. Of course it's great for Amsterdam if all these Rembrandts come home to roost, but personally I like the idea of them spread all over the place. And sources on the inside tell me that these old paintings can stand ages of neglect hanging on castle walls with no specific room temperature controls or any of the things top museums claim. Jane (talk) 11:53, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


Maikel Kieftenbeld

Kieftenbeld in 2014
Kieftenbeld in 2014

5x expanded by Struway2 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:14, 4 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This substantial article is a five-fold expansion and is new enough and long enough. The hook fact has an inline citation and the image is appropriately licensed. The article is neutral. Many of the references are in Dutch but I found no close paraphrasing in the English language sources I checked. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:14, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Nako, Himachal Pradesh

Nako and the monastery
Nako and the monastery
  • ... that the Nako Monastery (pictured) in Nako has sculptures of five Dhyani Buddhas made of clay in the main hall where there are also many thangkas on the walls?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 04:32, 4 October 2015 (UTC).

  • @Dr.K.: Thanks for the review. I have corrected the text in respect of paraphrasing and what is left is the title of the book under bibliography (3.8%) and not related to the main text. Thangkas are mentioned in web sources realted to tourism so I mentioned it instead of "other idols". However, I am correcting the original hook as per the book reference as ALT2 ... that the Nako Monastery (pictured) in Nako has sculptures of five Dhyani Buddhas made of clay in the main hall where there are also many images?Nvvchar. 06:18, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT2 ... that the Nako Monastery (pictured) in Nako has sculptures of five Dhyani Buddhas made of clay in the main hall where there are also many images?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg ALT1 and ALT2 approved. Good to go. Non-clickable refs accepted AGF. Thank you Nvvchar for the cleanup and for writing a very nice article. I took the liberty of repeating the line for ALT2 to make it more visible. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)


Fatimid desecration of Jerusalem

Created by Guru Noel (talk). Self-nominated at 16:01, 3 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Considerably problematic in its current form. The article is new enough and (barely) long enough, but I cannot judge it as within policy. Both article and hook present an exceedingly non-neutral point of view regarding the controversial historical figure Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah. The second paragraph is entirely unreferenced. Whatever the Morris 2005 reference is isn't formatted correctly; it appears to be taken from another article that used shortened footnotes and harvard referencing. Because of this problem, I cannot verify claims sources to it; this is especially problematic because it appears to take the writings of Adémar de Chabannes at face value, which further compounds NPOV concerns. Indeed, the article title itself is problematic, with an alternative such as Destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre perhaps being preferable, if it is even determined that this is a necessary spinout from Church of the Holy Sepulchre. In any case, this article, as it stands currently, is not in my opinion suitable for display on the Main Page. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:59, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment Thanks for your review. The article has now been substantially re-written to better show clear title is correct and the scope of the desecration to Jewish and Christian sites outside of Jerusalem. Morris source has been replaced. Guru Noel (talk) 21:30, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol delete vote.svg Still no. This article, from title to text to proposed DYK hook, presents an exceedingly Western/Judeo-Christian biased accounting of the 1009 destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and its consequences. Neglecting any consideration of the Fatimid perspective is not neutral. Deeming the destruction of the church the "desecration of Jerusalem" is not neutral. Newly-added text equating the actions of Al-Haqim with the Biblical abomination of desolation phrase is absolutely not neutral. The proposed hook is worse, essentially using the words of Adémar de Chabannes to call Al-Haqim the Antichrist. The article's topic is a complex, nuanced, and sensitive event. The article itself is not; I will not approve it for DYK. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 02:32, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment Excuse me, but the entire of Wikipedia is Western/Judeo-Christian biased accounting! What do you think our University system is based on? There are no Fatimid perspectives, they all likely killed Al-Hakim. We don't give Hitler's perspective on the holocaust because no-one (or a negligible minority) support his view and think that was a good thing to have done. I don't think you have re-read the article carefully enough to notice that the "desecration" extended beyond the Church of the Holy Sepulchre at all and with that sort of neglect request another reviewer's attention to this article. I have however changed the hook on your advice to make it suitable. Guru Noel (talk) 08:12, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia is built on consensus; you are welcome to seek a second opinion, although I assure you that I examined the article, its claims, and its sourcing quite thoroughly. An appropriately balanced, neutral article on the topic would need to address scholars' opinions of Al-Haqim's motivations (which will probably need to address his shifting religious allegiances), such as concerns that the Holy Fire was fraudulent,[3] or that the destruction was potentially taken as a consequence of the complex Byzantine-Arab relations during the period.[4] A neutral article will also need to take a more measured approach to the chain of events connecting the 1009 destruction of the church to the First Crusade. Rodulfus Glaber probably needs to be addressed along with Adémar, and context needs to be provided for their writings (Adémar especially was prone to hyperbole or outright fabrication). The First Crusade's causes were more complex and nuanced; indeed, Al-Haqim was long dead and the church rebuilt before the Crusades were even conceived of. Not all scholars agree whether its destruction was even mentioned by Urban II at Clermont.[5] And, finally, it goes without saying that a neutral article would require neutral language. This is simply not Hitler and the Holocaust. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:16, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for these helpful pointers. It is more complex than the Holocaust. I have made an attempt to incorporate a lot of this information with a new motivations section and clarified the crusades. Guru Noel (talk) 21:07, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The article is much improved from the state at its original DYK nomination, but I am still not comfortable approving this for DYK. I retain the belief that the title is problematic, and that some of the phrasing (especially, but not limited to, "abomination of desolation") is far from neutral. It remains my opinion that this is not suitable, but the nominator has requested a third party reviewer, and I have no objection to someone else giving the article due consideration. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:10, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your valuable contribution Squeamish. Much appreciated. I have taken the Abomination of desolation topic up on the talk page and further discussion is welcome there, not limited to that but other possibly problematic phrasing I am open to address. I understand your concerns about title and am open to discussion about that, also the hook. This article has become a bit of a Sherlock Holmes Whodunit case since I started it. After a lot of researching it seems likely in my opinion that Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah did likely have a Christian mother and did likely execute his uncle Arsenius, Patriarch of Jerusalem as part of the "desecration" for the Holy Fire fraud on the suggestion of the disenchanted Christian monk John, making the whole matter a lot more involved than generally understood, prior to writing the article. I think this clarification of multiple complicity actually presents a great message of peace right now, with everything going on with Shi'ite Muslims and Christians in Syria. Perhaps a revised hook and some advice could put that message across on the main page to your better satisfaction? Guru Noel (talk) 15:49, 14 October 2015 (UTC)



Black Hours (Morgan Library)

"Black Book of Hours"
"Black Book of Hours"

5x expanded by Ceoil (talk) and Kafka Liz (talk). Nominated by Ceoil (talk) at 04:13, 10 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg expansion enough, long enough, inline citations and refs checks, interesting and factual hook. Good 2 go.BabbaQ (talk) 12:22, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Cheers BabbaQ. Ceoil (talk) 13:01, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg BabbaQ, the review does not cover the remainder of the "within policy" criteria, such as close paraphrasing and neutrality, and also fails to check the submitted image and the length of the hook, which is well over the maximum of 200 characters (including spaces). Please complete this review, being sure to check all the DYK criteria. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:17, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I have added a new hook, close paraphrasing and neutrality check and is ok, image is free and can be used. If the nominator wants another hooks Ceoil can suggest another one.BabbaQ (talk) 17:44, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 4[edit]

2015 Dadri mob lynching

suggestion by Jointed.owl (talk) 13:00, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Comment: QPQ not needed

Created by Kenfyre (talk). Nominated by Human3015 (talk) at 01:22, 9 October 2015 (UTC).


Aydın Archaeological Museum

5x expanded by CeeGee (talk). Self-nominated at 11:12, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Meets all criteria required for DYK. Cleared for queue. LavaBaron (talk) 01:00, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Please list review details, as a courtesy to the nominator, especially if meant to be used as a QPQ. Please don't leave room for this being pulled from promotion because of inadequate review. This article is sourced in the Turkish language (did you check for copyvio/close paraphrasing?) and is structured like a list. If this is a list, and it can be argued that it is, the prose count would be affected. What did you check? — Maile (talk) 20:05, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg All of it. Good to go! LavaBaron (talk) 08:40, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed. Please provide details of what was checked.DYK review instructions please begin with one of the 6 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed. Details that are supposed to be checked in a review can be found at DYKReviewing guide — Maile (talk) 12:12, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg As per administrator ruling here, it's been determined no further review is needed. This is cleared for queue. LavaBaron (talk) 04:07, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Ion Buzdugan, Bessarabian Peasants' Party

5x expanded by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 13:00, 7 October 2015 (UTC).

Llanos long-nosed armadillo

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:30, 7 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, and well referenced without copyvio. The hook fact is very interesting and although the source doesn't explicitly use the word "quadruplets", I'm going to go out on a limb and say that it is obvious to anyone with a modest understanding of how reproduction works that a litter of four from a single zygote must be identical quadruplets. QPQ is done. Great work as always. 97198 (talk) 10:40, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Civility

  • ... that civility is the act of engaging with others in a constructive manner?

Moved to mainspace by Blippincott (talk) and Kvng (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 13:03, 6 October 2015 (UTC).


Ununennium

  • ... that ununennium is the element with the lowest atomic number that has not yet been synthesized?

Improved to Good Article status by Double sharp (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 13:54, 5 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article passess!

Article:

  • Has far more than 1500 characters
  • Is not new, but has been expanded more than 5x by nominator in the past week
  • Is Good Article status
  • Has sufficient inline citations
  • Meets core policies, etc.

Hook:

  • Hook is interesting
  • Hook is very concise and short
  • Has a citation in article

Nominator:

  • Has reviewed another article
  • 5x expanded article

Well done! Fritzmann2002 7 October 2015 8:19 (UTC)

  • Symbol question.svg @Fritzmann2002 and SSTflyer: Sorry if I'm missing something, but can you point out where the hook fact is cited in the article? I can only find it in the lead, where it doesn't have a citation. 97198 (talk) 11:22, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • "As ununennium is the lightest undiscovered element, it has been the target of synthesis experiments by both German and Russian teams in recent years." sst 11:34, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Is atomic number directly correlated with mass (i.e. is "lightest" synonymous with "lowest atomic number")? Sorry if this is a very basic question – I have forgotten most of what I once knew about chemistry! 97198 (talk) 11:58, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Basically yes. sst 10:31, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


Prado Navarette v. California

Created by Notecardforfree (talk). Self-nominated at 22:43, 4 October 2015 (UTC).

The Almost Impossible Game Show

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 17:25, 4 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg I think there could potentially be a very interesting or funny hook for this article, especially if the hook mentions one of the games from the show, but there are two problems with this nomination at the moment. First, per WP:DYKSG D6, the dispute tags should be resolved. Additionally, per WP:DYKSG D7, the unexpanded headers should be expanded. I am happy to review this again later once these issues are resolved. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 00:10, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
What unexpanded headers? They've all got at least one subsection.--Launchballer 07:46, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
After taking a closer look at this, it does appear that the unexpanded headers do, in fact, have expanded subsections. I was thrown off by the fact that the major headers are the same size/font as the minor headers. Although this may technically satisfy the requirements for D7, I think there may be a better way to present this information. Maybe you can put it into a table? Also, have you thought about using one of the games from the show as the basis for a hook? I think that could potentially be more interesting than telling readers the show was based on a German format. Once you resolve the issues with the dispute tags, I will take another look at this nomination. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 07:53, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
There is a difference, as the contents page shows. I have college now but I'll have a look later in the day.--Launchballer 08:00, 13 October 2015 (UTC)



Articles created/expanded on October 5[edit]

Frame Lake

Frame Lake in 2005
Frame Lake in 2005

Created by Daniel Case (talk). Self-nominated at 03:42, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

Andreas Panayiotou (businessman)

  • ... that Andreas Panayiotou was once the UK's largest private landlord, until he sold up in 2006/07 and moved into hotels?
  • ALT1:... that Andreas Panayiotou was kicked out of school aged 14, for punching his teacher, and became an amateur boxing champion and the UK's largest private landlord?
  • Reviewed: yet to be done
  • Comment: Other hooks welcome

Created by Edwardx (talk). Self-nominated at 22:20, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

Chilly McIntosh

  • ... that Chilly McIntosh became a leading figure in the Creek Nation after he escaped the death penalty for signing an agreement to sell Creek tribal land?

Created by Bruin2 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:11, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2 checks out. Though correctly worded, the construction of the primary hook could be misconstrued to mean he escaped the death penalty by signing an agreement, etc. The nom phrased the sentence correctly, I just have a feeling two predicates in a sentence is more complex than the average front page reader can digest. All other dimensions of the DYK criteria check out. Great job, Bruin2! (Admin note - this is a non-QPQ review.) LavaBaron (talk) 17:54, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

US federal recognition of Native Hawaiians

Created by Mark Miller (talk). Self-nominated at 04:02, 7 October 2015 (UTC).

Review
  • QPQ not required.
Eligibility
  • Article created by Mark Miller on October 6, 2015 with 7739 characters (0 words) "readable prose size"
  • Article is NPOV, currently stable, no edit wars, no dispute tags
Hook, Sourcing and copyvio check
  • Every paragraph sourced
  • No bare URLs, and no external links used as inline sources
  • Hook is fine at 197 characters, sourced and stated in the article
  • Symbol question.svg The last sentence in the article, which is the basis for part of the hook, is worded almost identical to the source. You need to reword this sentence. No other copyvio/close paraphrasing found.
  • Symbol question.svg The lead says "over a hundred and eighty federal statutes", but when I read the source, it says 160. Did I miss something in the source?
Image
  • No image used, but I would recommend the Liluokalani image. My understanding on the Commons licensing is that the original black and white is Common Domain, but that you colorized it and have freely licensed it on Commons. It's wonderful.
  • Awaiting response on the one copyvio issue and the 180 or 160 issue. Everything else is fine. — Maile (talk) 22:37, 20 October 2015 (UTC)


Chronicler of the Winds

Henning Mankell in 2011
Henning Mankell in 2011
  • Reviewed: The Punishment of Lust
  • Comment: a work by an author who just died, - can we honour him with an image?

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 11:14, 7 October 2015 (UTC).

Snowy-crowned tern

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:39, 7 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article expansion new enough, long enough, and with no policy issues identified. QPQ done, The hook is cited and correct. Of the three names given in the article. looks good to go.--Kevmin § 15:18, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Masroor Rock Cut Temple

Masroor Rock Cut Temple
Masroor Rock Cut Temple

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 01:42, 7 October 2015 (UTC).

Cecile Hoover Edwards

  • ... that Cecile Hoover Edwards graduated high school at 15, and later focused her scientific career on the amino acid composition of foods to improve the health of African-American cuisine?

Moved to mainspace by Sisterchemist3 (talk), Antony-22 (talk), and Yoninah (talk). Nominated by Antony-22 (talk) at 00:39, 6 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Hi, I came by to review this but found the information rather scanty and only 2 refs. I added more reliable refs such as encyclopedia dictionaries, and also linked it to other Wikipedia pages so it wouldn't be an orphan. I guess I've recused myself from reviewing this, but I would appreciate a DYK creation co-credit. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 18:27, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Added. Thanks for the improvements! Antony–22 (talkcontribs) 23:17, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


Vartan Mahokian

Vartan Mahokian
Vartan Mahokian
  • ... that having escaped a massacre, painter Vartan Mahokian (pictured) continued to paint and earned himself a Legion of Honor?

Created by EtienneDolet (talk). Self-nominated at 17:38, 5 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS. AGF French sources. GTG. I changed the hook to say Legion of Honor to reflect the article. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 23:08, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on October 6[edit]

Henry Fox Bourne

  • ... that Henry Fox Bourne advocated for the rights of native peoples to their land, institutions and wealth against colonising powers?

Created by FunkyCanute (talk). Self-nominated at 10:54, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

Surface Book

  • ... that the Surface Book is constructed from machined magnesium?

Created by Sbmeirow (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 07:47, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

South American tern

  • ... that in 1877, on a single beach in Argentina there were estimated to be 67,500 nests containing 112,500 eggs of the South American tern?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:49, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

ALT 1: ... that an estimated 67,500 South American tern nests containing 112,500 eggs were found on a single 150-yard (140 m) stretch of beach in Argentina?
Symbol confirmed.svg Article was expanded 5x in past 5 days; article is long enough and is adequately references with no evidence of plagiarism; hook is appropriate length and reference is good. However, I suggest the hook be changed to emphasize the small size of the beach rather than the year of the observation (see ALT 1 above)…I think that’s more interesting. In either case, DYK is good to go.--Orygun (talk) 19:42, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. ALT1 is better, and I have struck the original. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:00, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Harry Anthony

Created by 78.26 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:10, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Meets all five criteria for DYK. Let 'er rip! LavaBaron (talk) 01:19, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Please list review details, as a courtesy to the nominator, especially if meant to be used as a QPQ. Please don't leave room for this being pulled from promotion because of inadequate review. — Maile (talk) 20:01, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Meets all DYK criteria. Good to go! LavaBaron (talk) 08:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Again, please do a proper review. sst 07:35, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg As per administrator ruling here, it's been determined no further review is needed. This is cleared for queue. LavaBaron (talk) 04:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Ale Ahmad Suroor

  • Comment: As of now I don't have any prior DYK credit. Hook is in "Indian English".

Created by Human3015 (talk). Self-nominated at 18:31, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

Montignac, Dordogne

  • ... that Montignac is the main centre for visiting Lascaux and other prehistoric sites in the Vézère valley in France?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:48, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Expansion is from 590 characters to 2819 characters, enough to qualify. The article is neutral and cites sources with inline citations. Copyvios confidence 18.7%. Hook is short enough and cited to an offline source. QPQ done. sst 07:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


Local authorities swaps litigation

Created by Legis (talk). Self-nominated at 20:52, 6 October 2015 (UTC).


Soundway Records

  • ... that Soundway Records has been named as "One of the 10 British Labels defining the Sound of 2014"?

Moved to mainspace by FrankyMB (talk) and MatthewVanitas (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 13:34, 6 October 2015 (UTC).

Golem Arcana

Created by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk). Self-nominated at 03:36, 6 October 2015 (UTC).


Articles created/expanded on October 7[edit]

Corruption in South Sudan

  • ALT1:... that the "Dura Saga" in which food shipments to combat famine disappeared and were appropriated by government officials is considered the worst instance of Corruption in South Sudan?
  • ALT2:... that the worst instance of Corruption in South Sudan was the "Dura Saga" in which millions of dollars worth of grains and cereals were stolen by government officials?
  • ALT3:... that Corruption in South Sudan allowed for nearly a billion dollars to vanish from 2005-2006 in the newly independent nation?
  • ALT4:... that President Salva Kiir Mayardit has made attempts to combat Corruption in South Sudan but has lacked the resources and domestic support to do so?

Created/expanded by DaltonCastle (talk). Self-nominated at 01:46, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Transylvanian rugs

Created by HajjiBaba (talk). Self-nominated at 08:16, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg HajjiBaba - unfortunately this doesn't meet the newness criteria as it's been in mainspace for more than 7 days. However, this is such a wonderfully written and sourced article I think you should nominate it for GA; once promoted it could then re-nominated for DYK. (Admin Note: This has not been a QPQ review by me. This QPQ has been done and contributed to Mhhossein for credit to clear Template:Did you know nominations/Arba'een Pilgrimage.) LavaBaron (talk) 04:20, 22 October 2015 (UTC)



University of Hong Kong pro-vice-chancellor selection incident

Johannes Chan
Johannes Chan

Created by Citobun (talk) and Ohconfucius (talk). Nominated by George Ho (talk) at 07:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC).


Erwadi dargah

Erwadi dargah
Erwadi dargah
  • ... that in the Erwadi dargah (pictured), well known for healing mentally deranged people, the cure offered to the sick people is only the holy water from the dargha twice a day, apart from prayers?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk) and Thamizhan1994 (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 02:28, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

Galit Hasan-Rokem

Galit Hasan-Rokem
Galit Hasan-Rokem

5x expanded by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 21:46, 10 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svgArticle length and date of posting are in order. Hook is cited and verified. Text is neutral and no copy vio noted. QPQ done. Img is freely licensed. Good to go. Nvvchar (talk) 02:42, 11 October 2015 (UTC)‎
  • Symbol question.svg The hook seems to be diametrically opposed to the article: the hook says "bias toward" which indicates to me that it's favoring the Arabic-speaking residents, while the article says "bias against", which indicates to me that it's favoring the Hebrew-speaking residents at the expense of the Arabic-speaking ones, and this latter is what's stated in the source's lede. Please revise the hook to reflect the article and its sources. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:24, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Sorry about that. I fixed the hook. Yoninah (talk) 16:30, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Restoring tick; hook now reflects article and source. Rest of review per Nvvchar. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:13, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Aram Manukian

Portrait of Aram
Portrait of Aram

5x expanded by Yerevantsi (talk). Self-nominated at 10:24, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

Mary Saran

Created by Charles01 (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 09:58, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

Ermua

  • ... that a town councillor in Ermua was kidnapped and murdered by the Basque separatist movement ETA in 1997?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:07, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg · Article size and expansion ok. Hook fact is neutral, interesting, and cited in the article. AGF on foreign language reference. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 18:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

1987 Carapintada mutiny

Argentine president Raúl Alfonsín during the mutiny
Argentine president Raúl Alfonsín during the mutiny

Created by Cambalachero (talk). Self-nominated at 18:51, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

It Is the Law

  • ... that moviegoers in 1924 saw Justin Victor get away with murder because It Is the Law?
  • ALT1:... that It Is the Law was the final film directed by J. Gordon Edwards?
  • Reviewed: Fatimid desecration of Jerusalem
  • Comment: It is admittedly debatable whether the first hook "involves the real world in some way" sufficient to satisfy that criterion. On the other hand, it's much punchier. ALT1 is an absolutely real-world alternative, but uninteresting to most readers (who won't be familiar with Edwards).
  • This was submitted as a new-article DYK, but it is now additionally a Good Article. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 13:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Created/expanded by Squeamish Ossifrage (talk). Self-nominated at 16:43, 7 October 2015 (UTC).

  • I'm dubious that the moviegoers and the year sufficiently involves the real world, and am proposing a slight alteration that adds another layer of real world info, which I hope doesn't reduce the interest level that much:
If you don't like it, Squeamish Ossifrage, feel free to strike it. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:39, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
No objection here. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:44, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

George Edward Hilt

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk). Nominated by User:Doug Coldwell at 10:39, 7 October 2015 (UTC).


Chikan, Kaiping

Chikan waterfront dominated by Tong Lau dating from the early 20th century
Chikan waterfront dominated by Tong Lau dating from the early 20th century
  • ... that the historic town of Chikan, Kaiping has more than 600 Tong lau, stretching along over 3 kilometers of roads?

Created/expanded by Wishds (talk). Self-nominated at 09:22, 7 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg The article is new enough and has over the required number (1896) characters. However, the sources are kind of problematic. Ref 1 (qcoco.com), for instance, is a forum and thus cannot be used as a reliable source. The article does not cite a single academic source. Երևանցի talk 10:23, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg At least one of those sources is a government source. One seems to be a news site. This is a fairly new editor, so maybe someone else familiar with Chinese articles can have a look at this. — Maile (talk) 23:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on October 8[edit]

Yellow-faced myna

  • Reviewed: iPhone 6S

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:15, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg ·Article size and expansion fine. Hook is neutral, interesting, cited in the article, and verified in online reference. No close paraphrasing detected. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 13:01, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


Ni no Kuni

Improved to Good Article status by Rhain1999 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:06, 10 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Promoted to GA in a timely manner, and certainly long enough. Well-written and cited, per GA demands. First hook is well sourced, the second does not have a source immediately after the information in the article. I looked on the nearest reference to it but couldn't find the information. On the third hook, I can't find affirmation that only one game was localized: reference 37 does not say which game was localized, it is named in #38, but that has no mention that it was the only one. The first hook should be good to go, if you are preferring the alternatives we may have to work on the referencing '''tAD''' (talk) 17:15, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, The Almightey Drill. The alternatives are not directly mentioned in any of the references; instead, they're implied through multiple references (one stating that Wrath of the White Witch was localised, and one stating that Dominion of the Dark Djinn was not, etc.). If this isn't allowed, then I'm very happy with using the main hook instead. – Rhain1999 (talk to me) 07:30, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Impossible Is Nothing (Iggy Azalea song)

Improved to Good Article status by Coolmarc (talk). Self-nominated at 17:03, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Article was promoted to GAN on October 3, nominated for DYK on October 8.
  • At 6720 character, it exceeds 1500 minimum requirement.
  • Hook is sourced and cited.
  • It is within policy.
  • Nominator has received five DYK credits. The rules are slightly ambiguous ("nominator has fewer than five DYK credits (whether or not self-nominated) then the nomination is exempt from QPQ") so I assume nominator is exempt, but will not be next time.
  • However, the hook is boring and is not interesting. It doesn't even give an example of how or why it received comparisons, and this detail can't be done in a DYK hook. I don't understand why so many clauses are being used either, because it makes it longwinded. Reading the article, a hook about the song being about "underdog triumphalism", or "raps the track's aspirational lyrics with a mantra technique" would be far more likely to grab my attention and make me click to read more. Saying it is similar to Eminem songs without explaining why would not make me click to read more. Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  — Calvin999 18:17, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Hello Calvin999. First of all, thank you for fixing the template for me. This is my first DYK nomination, it was purely by accident. I thought had I explained why it was similar to Eminem's songs, the hook would have become too long. I appreciate your alternative hook suggestions, is there one you specifically think would work? Please let me know. Thanks. CoolMarc 06:50, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've given you suggestions, it's up to you to provide alternative hooks, not me. You could probably come up with a way of combing both of my suggestions into a short, snappy hook. People will click on that.  — Calvin999 10:38, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the suggestion. That sounds a lot better, though I'm not sure if "underdog triumphalism" needs quotation marks, it's quite a basic, non-bias term... CoolMarc 12:24, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • It's a direct quote from a review cited in the article, so best to quote it, because it's quote a specific thing to say. Symbol confirmed.svg ALT2.  — Calvin999 12:28, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • No prob. CoolMarc 12:56, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

San Joaquin pocket mouse

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:25, 10 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, expanded/long enough, suitably referenced, with no close paraphrasing seen. The hook is interesting and cited inline (I have repeated the reference that supports it so it is directly at the end of the sentence). QPQ is in progress. 97198 (talk) 06:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

The Araki (London restaurant)

Created by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 22:31, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS, but the age of the wood isn't in the source. While I am here, I might mention that the fact that this place is the best Japanese restaurant in London could also make a good hook. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 13:52, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've added that missing cite, also suggesting this:

2015 FA Women's Cup Final

Chelsea Ladies lift the FA Women's Cup at Wembley Stadium
Chelsea Ladies lift the FA Women's Cup at Wembley Stadium

Created by Carlos Kickabaw (talk). Self-nominated at 21:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Needs at least 1,500 characters of prose for DYK. Currently stands at 1,125.Cowlibob (talk) 17:33, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
  • For other criteria that I can assess thus far. New enough as mainspace on October 8. Hook ALT0 is formatted correctly, short enough, interesting, cited in line. ALT1 likewise though could be reworded for more prominence to the article. Image is CC2.0, used in article, captioned appropriately, ok at 100x100. No need for QPQ as nominator has no previous credits. Others I can't assess until complete expansion to >1500 has been made. Cowlibob (talk) 13:29, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I went in and expanded the game summary which should put it over the 1,500 mark (and just generally improve it). Not a huge deal but if I could be listed as a co-creator for the credit that'd be cool. Happy to help with any other issues that come up in the review too. Nsteffel (talk) 21:30, 16 October 2015 (UTC)


Richard Wright (musician)

  • ... that at the time of his death, Richard Wright had been working on an album thought to comprise a series of instrumental pieces?
  • Reviewed: TBD

Improved to Good Article status by Ritchie333 (talk). Nominated by FrB.TG (talk) at 19:56, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

Henry Fox (cricketer)

Harry Fox
Harry Fox
  • ... that the Russian authorities claimed that the Svans had murdered Harry Fox (pictured), but they almost certainly did not?

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self-nominated at 17:23, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg 1. The article was expanded more than fivefold on the same day that it was nominated. 2. The prose is certainly long enough. 3. There are sufficient sources and I believe no copyright problems. As for the hook, any mention of murder is a winner, so I think the first one should be used. It is properly sourced and I confirmed it via google books. The picture is old enough to avoid copyright problems. Finally, QPQ has been met, so I think this nomination ticks all of the boxes. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 06:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


Arba'een Pilgrimage

2013 Arbaeen Pilgrimage, streets are full of pilgrims.
2013 Arbaeen Pilgrimage, streets are full of pilgrims.

Created by Mhhossein (talk). Self-nominated at 13:54, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg This meets all the criteria, except it needs a QPQ. Mhhossein, if you've already done one please note it here and ping me and I'll come back and green-check this. LavaBaron (talk) 04:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
LavaBaron: Thanks for your review, but it's my fifth nomination! does it need QPQ?Mhhossein (talk)
It's only pro-bono if you've made fewer than five. However, I just did a non-QPQ review at Template:Did you know nominations/Transylvanian rugs so I'll credit it to you and clear this. LavaBaron (talk) 04:50, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. Meets all DYK criteria. Nom failed QPQ, however, reviewer has done Template:Did you know nominations/Transylvanian rugs on nom's behalf. LavaBaron (talk) 04:50, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


Microprinting

  • ... that microprint was invented by Albert Boni in 1943?
  • ALT1:... that microprint can be found not only on currency but also bank cheques, postage stamps, security seals, and other important documents?
  • ALT2:... that the first US postage stamp to incorporate microprinting was the American Wildflower Series in 1992?
  • ALT3:... that true microprint (text less than 1px tall) can not be reproduced by digital methods but microtext can (text approx 4 to 1px tall)?
  • Comment: I have spent the past few days significantly expanding and improving this article.

5x expanded by David Condrey (talk). Self-nominated at 09:09, 8 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg There is some further work needed here. An expansion of about 2.5x has been achieved so far (based on expansion starting on nomination date of 4 Oct), and a large number of good sources have been introduced, but more content is needed to reach the DYK yardstick of a 5x expansion. There may be scope to include info about microprinting on other countries' banknotes, for example. There is an {{Expert-subject}} tag in one section, which I think is justified, but some expert help would really need to be forthcoming before this could run at DYK. Has the Science wikiproject been approached directly? Could the Numismatics and/or Technology wikiprojects help as well? There are also some paragraphs needing citations.
This article has excellent potential, especially given that good sources have been added as part of the expansion so far, and it would be good to keep this nomination on hold for a while to see if further expansion could be achieved. I have watchlisted the article. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 20:41, 12 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on October 9[edit]

Douglas Lambert

5x expanded by FunkyCanute (talk). Nominated by Bcp67 (talk) at 18:38, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

Conca de Barberà

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 11:28, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Looks fine to me. New enough and although fairly short, long enough. Sourcing looks fine and the article is well-written and within policy. ALT1 is clearer, so let's go for that one; it's interesting enough and reliably sourced. Prioryman (talk) 21:23, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

San Andrés del Rabanedo

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 09:15, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

Villablino

  • Reviewed: Phellodon

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:20, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article size and expansion fine, and the article is appropriately referenced. Hook is neutral and interesting. The fact (that Villablino has large reserves of bituminous coal) is cited in the article, and verified in online reference. That Villablino is located in nortern Spain, is not cited directly, but I regard it as trivial information. QPQ done. Spot checks did not reveal close paraphrasing. Oceanh (talk) 18:54, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

List of places of worship in Waverley (borough), Park Lane Chapel, Farnham

The former Park Lane chapel in Farnham, Surrey
The former Park Lane chapel in Farnham, Surrey

Moved to mainspace by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:51, 12 October 2015 (UTC).


Anti (Rihanna album)

  • ... that work on Anti, Rihanna's eighth studio album, began in 2013?

Created by Sullysully11 (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 10:08, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Not eligible for DYK since the album currently fails WP:NALBUMS for no confirmed release date or full tracklist. Feel free to renominate when it has a confirmed release date and track list. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:46, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
An article does not need to meet the stricter requirements of WP:NALBUMS if it meets WP:GNG. Your move of the article into draft space is inappropriate. sst 14:54, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed. Restoring nomination history after prematurely closed by reviewer @SNUGGUMS:. A reviewer should not close out their own review. @SSTflyer: has challenged your review, and this nomination needs to be given a chance for others to look at it. WP:DYKR: ...an uninvolved editor will soon review the discussion and likely close it and promote the article. If the article does not qualify for DYK for some technical reason or if the participants cannot agree on at least one viable hook, the discussion will eventually be closed by an uninvolved editor and the article will not be promoted. — Maile (talk) 12:47, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Whoever looks at it should keep this in mind for why it DOES need to meet WP:NALBUMS in order to warrant an article in mainspace. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:23, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
@SNUGGUMS: if the article does not meet notability guidelines, the place for that discussion is at AfD. DYK nominations are put on hold during AfD proceedings, and only restarted should the article be retained. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article has been nominated at Articles for Deletion; DYK nomination is on hold until the process concludes. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:45, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg The result of the AfD discussion was keep. sst 07:23, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Santa Coloma de Queralt

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 10:07, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

Symbol confirmed.svg nice expansion on good sources, hook interesting and sourced. I wonder if Catalan is known enough to be not linked. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


Texas A&M–Commerce Lions women's soccer

Texas A&M–Commerce Lions women's soccer in action
Texas A&M–Commerce Lions women's soccer in action

Moved to mainspace by Michael Barera (talk). Self-nominated at 03:03, 10 October 2015 (UTC).


Dibaeis baeomyces

pink earth lichen
pink earth lichen
  • ALT1:... that Dibaeis baeomyces (pink earth lichen) was once thought to be in the same genus as the similar-looking Baeomyces rufus (brown beret lichen), until DNA sequencing proved otherwise?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I'm hoping to have an actual botanist contribute to the article. Will update authors listing if any do.

Created by GrammarFascist (talk). Self-nominated at 23:58, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

  • I have wikilinked the other species in ALT1, since it's no longer a redlink. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 15:00, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svgArticle long enough and new enough. off line references taken AGF, with the hook and the alt both sourced and verified. Im not totally sure why monophyletic group is in scare quotes though?--Kevmin § 21:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • What you call scarequotes was me being perhaps overzealous in avoiding too-close paraphrasing, Kevmin. I couldn't figure out a way to state that information without it being a close paraphrase of one source or another, so I went with a direct quotation. Thank you for such a prompt review! —GrammarFascist contribstalk 21:33, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Kevmin, I've just found out from BlueMoonset (here) that it's not too late to convert this to a double DYK, with Baeomyces rufus as the other article — if, obviously, you don't mind reviewing a second article and what had been the alternate hook. This would be my first 2-in-1, so I'm not sure if the two articles can have separate reviewers. If not, and Kevmin isn't interested in taking on the other review, I'm fine with the original hook and this DYK being just for Dibaeis baeomyces. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 22:00, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @GrammarFascist: It's a fairly normal biology parlance to use that phrase and that its a three word combination makes it hard to be a copy-violation. I would say it doesn't need them. Lets ping @BlueMoonset: As for the double nomination, I have no problem with a second review at all!--Kevmin § 22:07, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've just updated the nomination's DYK nompage links template, and added a DYKmake template, both to reflect the addition of the new article. So this template is all set. I'm glad that Kevmin's available to review the second article, though it would have been possible to have two separate reviewers for the two articles if he hadn't been. As for the use of "a monophyletic group", I agree that the quotes are not necessary for a basic scientific term, but I'm not sure that the context is appropriate. The article seems to be saying that although Dibaesis baeomyces isn't related to the Baeomyces after all, it is related to these other two species being in a monophyletic group with them, but the source says that Baeomyces is in that same monophyletic group with D. baeomyces and Gyalecta ulmi and Pertusaria trachythallina. This doesn't affect the hook at all, but it will affect the article, assuming I haven't misread that "Lichen clade IV" sentence in the source. (Apologies in advance if I have!) BlueMoonset (talk) 22:51, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Reading through the conclusions of Stenroos & DePreist, I agree with what @BlueMoonset: notes, @GrammarFascist: it looks like you missread the Genus Baeomyces as the species D. baeomyces on page 1557 of the article.--Kevmin § 02:55, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I am more than willing to accept that I may have misread something in the densely-technical sources I used. I like science, but I am not a scientist by training. That said, in reviewing the source, I found three statements I had used to build the article. Two are unambiguous, I think — "Our data suggest that Baeomyces rufus and Dibaeis baeomyces (syn. Baeomyces roseus) are phylogenetically distant and more closely related to taxa from other orders and suborders than to each other." and "Siphula ceratites and Thamnolia vermicularis form a monophyletic assemblage together with Dibaeis baeomyces." — and seem to support what's in the article I created. Then there is "Pertusaria trachythallina of the Lecanorales forms a monophyletic group with Gyalecta ulmi of the Gyalectales, and Baeomyces rufus and Dibaeis baeomyces of the Leotiales." (emphasis added). The inclusion of B. rufus in that sentence contradicts the rest of the article, so I was taking it as a misprint. Shall I perhaps add a quote= parameter to the citation to clarify where the information is coming from?
As for the quotation marks, I will take them out. Thanks for reassuring me they were not needed, Kevmin and BlueMoonset. I also struck the original hook since it only applied to the first article. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 04:07, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────*Symbol question.svg Initial review of Baeomyces rufus, article new enough, long enough, and well referenced. No obvious problems with it, and the hook is cited, and checks out. We still await clarification of the monophyly paragraph in Dibaeis baeomyces, due to probable missreading of the source as identified above. Also "phylogentically distant" doesn't need quotes either.--Kevmin § 03:00, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

  • @GrammarFascist: I come to the same conclusion as you on the one sentence being out of place given the consistency of the article on the unrelated nature of the two species. I would clarify in the article that there is some confusion on the nature of the relation and see if there is any new papers that clarify. --Kevmin § 22:34, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @Kevmin: It's a relief to read that you don't think I misread the article after all. I have added a footnote to the Dibaeis baeomyces article explaining the apparent contradiction in the Stenroos and DePriest paper. I also found and added a third study that also established Baeomyces and Dibaeis as distinct genera. I don't think a similar note is necessary in Baeomyces rufus as that article only asserts that D. baeomyces was found not to belong to genus Baeomyces and says nothing further about the relatedness of the two species. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 00:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Perhaps you ought to omit the monophyletic group material altogether, if you believe the source is incorrect, rather than include the parts you think are correct and omit those you don't (albeit with explanation). There is no obligation to include every fact in a source; eventually there will be further publication and a more clear statement of the facts. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:28, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • That was an excellent suggestion, BlueMoonset, and I have followed it. Reference to monophyly has been removed, along with the corresponding footnote. What do you think, Kevmin? —GrammarFascist contribstalk 04:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg with those changes, and no major shift in the articles quality or policy neutrality, I think the hook is good to go.--Kevmin § 14:52, 15 October 2015 (UTC)



Harry Brand

  • ... that press agent Harry Brand had 20th Century Fox insure Betty Grable's legs for $1 million dollars as a publicity stunt?
  • ALT1:...that press agent Harry Brand had Marilyn Monroe photographed wearing only a potato sack to divert attention from a nude calendar shoot she had done?

Created by JSFarman (talk). Self-nominated at 18:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC).


Articles created/expanded on October 10[edit]

Ronald Reagan Cross County Highway

Converted from a redirect by Mxn (talk). Self-nominated at 22:33, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

Female Figure (Giambologna)

Female Figure
Female Figure
  • ... that Giambologna's untitled 1571-73 sculpture of a woman bathing (pictured) was known as Bathsheba in the seventeenth century, perhaps in an attempt to justify her nudity through biblical association?

Created by Ceoil (talk) and Kafka Liz (talk). Nominated by Ceoil (talk) at 18:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Article is long enough, new enough and the content looks well-cited (sources are offline, but I spot checked some bits where I could). The hook is cited, but I do have a couple of issues: it's a *long* hook with a picture. In fact it's exactly 200 characters. Is there any way to shorten it? A more important problem, I feel, is that the hook is a close paraphrase of the direct quote from the source. Can it be directly quoted? Or re-written to remove the closeness? Happy to discuss any of these issues if I am incorrect (it's been a while since I did DYK!). --Errant (chat!) 21:23, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

  • You and me both Errant.

ALT1: ... that 17th century reformist defenders of Giambologna's 1571-73 sculpture of a woman bathing (pictured) justified her nudity by identifying her as either Bathsheba or Venus? Ceoil (talk) 02:11, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg I think that works, thanks! Happy to sign off on it. --Errant (chat!) 08:08, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Abadiño

  • ... that there is an oath chapel at the Basque town of Abadiño, with twelve stone seats arranged in a semicircle?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:18, 16 October 2015 (UTC).

Amorebieta-Etxano

  • ... that the municipality of Amorebieta-Etxano was formed in 1951 by the merger of two very unequal-sized communities?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:41, 16 October 2015 (UTC).

Every Single Word

  • Reviewed: Verma Panton
  • Comment: Nominated with 1 hour on my time limit to spare. Woo!

Created by Silver seren (talk). Self-nominated at 21:08, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Valle de Trápaga-Trapagaran

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Highland tuco-tuco

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 06:14, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg · Article is recently expanded more than 5x, and is long enough. No copyvio detected. Hook is neutral, interesting, cited in the article, and verified in online reference. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 14:00, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Mercados Libres Campesinos

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 04:38, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

Robust tuco-tuco

  • ... that the robust tuco-tuco is threatened by loss of its habitat to agricultural development?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:16, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article has been reviewed against each of the seven DYK criteria and found to have met seven of seven DYK criteria. Review began at 0435 on 12OCT2015 and concluded at 0442 on same date. LavaBaron (talk) 04:43, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Please list review details, as a courtesy to the nominator, especially if meant to be used as a QPQ. Please don't leave room for this being pulled from promotion because of inadequate review.— Maile (talk) 20:11, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg For those who are unclear what the "DYK criteria" consist of (the nominator, or others), I have wikilinked to them as a courtesy. I hope other editors do not choose to needlessly hold-up this excellent nom as a perfunctory, and disruptive, bookkeeping exercise. LavaBaron (talk) 11:01, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to provide details of what is checked in the review. DYK review instructions please begin with one of the 6 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed. Details that are supposed to be checked in a review can be found at DYKReviewing guide — Maile (talk) 12:14, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg As per administrator ruling here, it's been determined no further review is needed. This is cleared for queue. LavaBaron (talk) 04:08, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


Sushi machine

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:41, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

List of accolades received by Whiplash (2014 film)

5x expanded by Cowlibob (talk). Self-nominated at 17:50, 10 October 2015 (UTC).

Early life and career of Gene Roddenberry

Gene Roddenberry in 1976
Gene Roddenberry in 1976

Improved to Good Article status by Miyagawa (talk). Self-nominated at 10:57, 10 October 2015 (UTC).

  • The article is new: Green tickY
  • The article is long enough: Green tickY
  • The hook is interesting: Green tickY
  • The hook is referenced: Green tickY
  • The hook is below 200 characters: Green tickY
  • A google search does not reveal any copyright violation: Green tickY
  • The article follows most other important policies: Green tickY
  • QPQ: Green tickY
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is good to go. I prefer the first hook. Cambalachero (talk) 18:19, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


Crane Mountain

Created by Orygun (talk). Self-nominated at 20:07, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on October 11[edit]

Dominik Wörner

Moved to mainspace by 2A02:8109:740:1E28:B41F:6DB7:678:763 (talk) and Gerda Arendt (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 21:01, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

Georgie Wolton

  • ... that architect Georgie Wolton designed the first house in the UK to use CorTen steel as the primary structure?

Created by Sionk (talk). Self-nominated at 12:02, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Only just long enough, but it qualifies; good sourcing; new enough at the time of nomination; within policy and the hook is OK and reliably sourced. QPQ has been done. Everything checks out, so I'm giving this one a tick. Prioryman (talk) 21:53, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Battle of Britain (video game)

Converted from a redirect by Jaguar (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 01:53, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

Palamu Forts

Entrance gate of the Palamau_Fort
Entrance gate of the Palamau_Fort
  • ... that the central gate is the largest of three gates built in the fort in the plains (pictured) and is known as "Singh Dwar"?

5x expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 11:47, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Sinn Féin Funds case

  • Reviewed: I have fewer than five DYK credits

Created by Jnestorius (talk). Nominated by Scolaire (talk) at 10:01, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

  • I suggest reordering to "that the 1948 ruling in the Sinn Féin Funds case" since the case ran from 1942 to 1948 and there was a separate significant ruling in 1947. jnestorius(talk) 17:08, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Butterfly

Old World swallowtail
Old World swallowtail

Improved to Good Article status by Chiswick Chap (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 12:02, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg · Recent GA, well referenced. Hook is interesting, neutral, cited, and verified in online reference. Spot checks did not reveal any close paraphrasing. QPQ done. Picture is used in the article, and Commons license ok. Oceanh (talk) 19:01, 14 October 2015 (UTC)


Agar.io

Improved to Good Article status by Esquivalience (talk). Self-nominated at 01:04, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

Buçaco Forest

cold fountain
cold fountain

Created by Singora (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 09:15, 12 October 2015 (UTC).


Nathan Waller (soldier)

  • ... that according to legend, Nathan Waller once killed a bear with only a pine knot?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 21:32, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg I sorta question whether this meets GNG, but that's not a criteria for DYK, all of which this meets. GO! LavaBaron (talk) 01:22, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Please list review details, as a courtesy to the nominator, especially if meant to be used as a QPQ. Please don't leave room for this being pulled from promotion because of inadequate review. — Maile (talk) 20:03, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Everything checks out - good to go! LavaBaron (talk) 08:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I, LavaBaron, do hereby explicitly and unambiguously confirm, with neither apprehension nor misgiving as to the veracity of the assertion, and with a firm and unshakable belief that brooks no hesitation in its utterance, that the five main DYK criteria have been met in the matter of this nomination (AKA "everything checks out"). Further, I hereby assert that a copy of this declaration has been signed in wet ink, notarized, and submitted - via certified post (return receipt requested) - to the registered agent of the Wikimedia Foundation for archive and filing as a permanent record of the completeness of this review. Signed in my hand on this, the 19th day of October in the Year our Lord, Two Thousand and Fifteen, and of Wikipedia the Fourteenth - LavaBaron (talk) 19:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed. The is just rambling and tells us nothing about what was checked. DYK review instructions please begin with one of the 6 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed. Details that are supposed to be checked in a review can be found at DYKReviewing guide — Maile (talk) 12:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg As per administrator ruling here, it's been determined no further review is needed. This is cleared for queue. LavaBaron (talk) 04:07, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


Roaring Run (Bowman Creek)

  • ... that Roaring Run is the only wild brook trout and rainbow trout fishery in Pennsylvania?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 13:56, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

Sugar Hollow Creek, South Branch Roaring Run

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 13:58, 11 October 2015 (UTC).


Pasticciotto

Ricotta-filled pasticciotto
Ricotta-filled pasticciotto
  • ... that one variety of pasticciotto pastry is filled with meat but topped with sugar?
  • ALT1: <a>... that pasticciotto pastry may take their name from their creator's view of them as a "mishap"?

Created by GrammarFascist (talk). Self-nominated at 05:30, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svg Nice dish, on good sources. Looking at Pasticcio, "mishap" seems not to be the only translation of the term, - please check that for the article, - I would not approve it for a hook. Article: it's a filled pastry, no? Why "type"? How about crust first, explain lard vs. olive oil, then filling. Don't recall "composition" for food ;) - perhaps not so many headers anyway? Please have Easter pastry with a source in the body of the article. Mention Puglia,Sicily and Naples in the lead? No problem with a late image, but I think the sugar-coated one would illustrate the hook better. - Is this your fourth nomination? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Hello Gerda Arendt, thanks for reviewing this article. (I think you are reviewing it? Or do you just have comments?)
  • "Mishap" is the only translation given as being related to the name of this pastry by a source; I think trying to relate it to similar words might constitute original research. After all, for all we know it's a case similar to "fluke" in English, which can have a meaning similar to "mishap" but can also mean a sea creature's fin, or a type of parasite... but that doesn't mean every use of the word is intended to invoke all those meanings. Also, I did some additional Googling and did not find any other meaning or origin given for the word pasticciotto.
  • "Type" because there are many different kinds of filled Italian pastries — two others, cannoli and sfogliatelle, are mentioned in the article — of which pasticciotti are only one type.
  • Sure, I don't see any reason not to put crust before filling. Olive oil isn't used, though, from the research I did; just butter or lard.
  • I'm not sure I understand your objection to "Composition". Are you asking for a synonym? Or do you think Crust and Fillings should each be top-level headers without an umbrella heading?
  • The main reason I didn't choose the meat image even with that being the primary hook was that I didn't think the image would be intelligible at 100 pixels, even after I cropped the original. I'm willing to be convinced, though. Face-smile.svg
  • I've had 3 DYKs make it to the front page. I have more than one I've nominated that's stalled. I expected I would just stick the notation about one or another of the several reviews I've "banked" onto whatever's left on this page once a fifth nomination of mine enters staging. —GrammarFascist contribstalk 20:23, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Meat-filled pasticciotto
Meat-filled pasticciotto
Symbol confirmed.svg Thank you, understand better. My comments are just ideas you can take or leave. Call me Gerda ;) - Still think the other image would be better, because the hook would explain it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Siege of Khartoum (currency)

Moved to mainspace by Godot13 (talk). Self-nominated at 02:11, 11 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is new enough and long enough, and the hook is generally supported (it is a general statement of existence rather than a specific fact, so every ref used de facto supports it). The hook is interesting enough, as the idea of "emergency currency" is generally uncommon enough to warrant interest, and the article is in fine shape for inclusion. It may be possible to run this with one of the article's images as well. My one query is the article's title—I'm unfamiliar with the workings of WP:NMSM or their MOS, but it seems that "Siege of Khartoum" isn't really the name of the currency, and "Piastre (Siege of Khartoum)" or "Siege of Khartoum currency" (without the brackets, as the disambiguator implies a name rather than a descriptor) may work better. GRAPPLE X 09:51, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

The Berenstain Bears' Christmas Tree

  • ... that ....?
  • ALT1:Stan and Jan Berenstain had to provide 20,000 sketches of the Bear Family before animators began working on the NBC television special?

Created by Darb02 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:10, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Just to let you know, Darb02, you didn't format this correctly. ALT1 is properly used for an alternative hook, not the main hook as you seem to have placed there. All hooks should begin "... that", and the article title needs to be linked to and the link bolded, so '''[[The Berenstain Bears' Christmas Tree]]''' should be somewhere in the hook. I gather this is your first nomination? —GrammarFascist contribstalk 14:48, 21 October 2015 (UTC)


Articles created/expanded on October 12[edit]

Salve Regina (Latry)

Great organ of Notre Dame de Paris
Great organ of Notre Dame de Paris

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:21, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

Deborah Saunt

  • ... that Deborah Saunt was cited as one of "London's top architects" in 2012?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:58, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg size and age of article ok, written in neutral tone, no gross copyvio detected with earwigs, hook cited and faithful to source. good to go. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:00, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Rosemary Stjernstedt

  • ... that London-based architect Rosemary Stjernstedt was the first woman to reach senior grade I status in a British council county division?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:00, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

Souillac, Lot

  • ... that an international jazz festival is held annually in the French town of Souillac ?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 12:43, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article size and expansion fine, and the article is appropriately referenced. Hook is short enough, neutral, cited in the article, and verified in online reference. QPQ done. Spot checks with DD did not reveal any close paraphrasing. Oceanh (talk) 13:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Gravity Falls: Legend of the Gnome Gemulets

5x expanded by AdrianGamer (talk). Self-nominated at 12:27, 13 October 2015 (UTC).


Ardstinchar Castle

Remains of Ardstinchar Castle
Remains of Ardstinchar Castle

Moved to mainspace by Supdiop (talk). Self-nominated at 04:31, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and posted by due date. Hook is cited and verified. No copy vio noted and the text is neutral. Author has less than 5 DYKs as verified from his talk page, hence QPQ is not required. Good to go.Nvvchar. 12:28, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Melon soup

Cantaloupe soup is a type of melon soup
Cantaloupe soup is a type of melon soup
  • ... that several varieties of melon soup exist, such as bitter melon soup, cantaloupe soup (example pictured) and winter melon soup?

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 01:09, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

  • DYK checklist template
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Passes DYK checklist.

  • Review Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go! Meets core policies and guidelines, and in particular: is neutral; cites sources with inline citations; is free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism. DYK nomination was timely and article is easily long enough. Every paragraph is cited. Hook references are verified and cited. No copyright violations or too close paraphrasing. Earwig's copy violation detector Melon Soup report gives it a clean bill. The hook is hooky enough, I think, and relates directly to the essence of the article. It is interesting, decently neutral, and appropriately cited. QPQ done. 7&6=thirteen () 01:23, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
I did fill out the references further. Nice job! 7&6=thirteen () 02:03, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Baryonyx

Baryonyx with a fish
Baryonyx with a fish
  • ... that with a head shape likened to a gharial, the dinosaur Baryonyx is thought to have eaten fish?

Improved to Good Article status by FunkMonk (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 00:25, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg Promoted to GA status on 12 October 2015, content of the hook is backed with inline citation to reliable sources in the article, checks for copyvio reveals no problems (e.g. [6]), all non-lead paragraphs have inline citations, QPQ review performed by the nominator. Interesting hook that generates interest in the topic. Image is properly licensed.
I added an inline citation to the article at the end of a sentence about the dinosaur being thought to have eaten fish. I cannot find an inline citation to a reliable source at the end of a sentence in the article stating that the dinosaur has a head shaped like a gharial. As per WP:WIADYK point #3, "Each fact in the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation to a reliable source, appearing no later than the end of the sentence(s) offering that fact" (italic emphasis mine). After this is performed, this will be good to go. North America1000 01:03, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
Added now. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:17, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
One comment, it is known to have eaten fish (fish-scales in the stomach), not sure if that would affect the wording... FunkMonk (talk) 05:12, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Pachycondyla petrosa

Pachycondyla petrosa holotype
Pachycondyla petrosa holotype

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 22:19, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

Martel, Lot

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 19:40, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg 5x expanded within timeframe, so long enough and recent enough. It's well written and provided with sources. QPQ done. The hook, however, is problematic. The source doesn't claim the town is named after Charles Martel, only that "Martel" means hammer, and that a legend credits Charles Martel with founding the city. For all we know it could be an example of false etymology. But how about something like this:
Alt 1 ... that the town of Martel is said to have been founded by Charles Martel, nicknamed "the hammer" after his victory in the Battle of Tours?
Let me know what you think. Yakikaki (talk) 19:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
@Yakikaki: Alt1 is fine by me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 04:53, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg OK, then a new reviewer has to take a look on the alt hook. Yakikaki (talk) 16:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Kate Macintosh

  • ... that Kate Macintosh designed a social housing complex in London that was described as "one of the most remarkable housing developments in the country"?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 14:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New article, long enough, well sourced, hook fact supported by inline citation. Article is neutral in tone, looks good to me. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:37, 16 October 2015 (UTC)


Suillus bovinus

Suillus bovinus (left, right) and Gomphidius roseus (centre)
Suillus bovinus (left, right) and Gomphidius roseus (centre)

Improved to Good Article status by Casliber (talk). Self-nominated at 05:25, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

Frozen Fever

  • ... that it took only six months to complete the production of Frozen Fever?

Improved to Good Article status by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 01:35, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Length, date of GA status both check out fine. Spotchecks reveal no evidence of copyvio or close para-phrasing. The original hook is appropriately referenced inline. I'm not keen on ALT1; for one thing the article doesn't explicitly state that it is true, and secondly, what defines an animation team? I'm happy to pass this with the original hook once a QPQ has been completed. Harrias talk 15:15, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 13[edit]

Alice Coomeraswamy

Ratan Devi in Manhattan
Ratan Devi in Manhattan
  • ... that Alice Richardson from Yorkshire went to India and returned as Ratan Devi (pictured)?

Created by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk), 7&6=thirteen, (talk), Rich Farmbrough (talk), and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 15:54, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Review
  • QPQ by Victuallers
Eligibility
  • Article moved from User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )/Alice Coomaraswamy on October 13, 2015 and is currently 2671 characters (0 words) "readable prose size"
  • Article is NPOV, currently stable, no edit wars, no dispute tags
Sourcing
  • Every paragraph sourced inline, online (some of it by subscription only)
  • No bare URLs, and no external links used as inline sources
Hook
  • First hook is 77 characters, stated in the article and sourced
  • ALT 1 is 90 characters, stated in the article and sourced
Image
  • Image used is in the article and freely licensed on Commons
Tools
  • Duplication Detector on all online sources found no copyvio or close paraphrasing.

Symbol confirmed.svg This one is good to go, with both hooks acceptable. I prefer ALT1, because it is so quirky. — Maile (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Sulawesi myna

  • ... that the Sulawesi myna sometimes issues a "meeow"-like sound with its head thrusting forwards and its back feathers fluffed up?

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:31, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article expansion new enough and long enough. The article is well cited, hook included, neutral, and hook verified. No policy issues are seen in the article. good to go.--Kevmin § 03:49, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Jack jumper ant

Jack jumper ant worker foraging on top of a dry flower
Jack jumper ant worker foraging on top of a dry flower

Improved to Good Article status by Burklemore1 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 08:13, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Its a GA listed on Oct 13. Its long enough and it has lots of cites. Its neutral and I found lots of mirror sites but no paraphrasing I could spot. Image is in the article and free. The hook fact is in the article and I think I now understand what gamergates are. Thanks for this one. Victuallers (talk) 14:21, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

John Martin (judge)

  • ... that John Martin, first Chief Justice of the Cherokee Supreme Court, had no formal legal training?
  • ALT1:...John Martin, first Chief Justice of the Cherokee Supreme Court, was a great grandson of Joseph Martin, a noted American leader in the American Revolutionary War?
  • Reviewed: Cyclone Rusty

Created by Bruin2 (talk). Self-nominated at 21:34, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Nice article. Its long enough and has a good number of cites but one para lacks a ref. I can also see the lack of training mentioned in a note which is cited. Can you move this to the main article as its part of your hook. Pity these are no images. I couldn't see any paraphrasing from the main source which I looked over. QPQ is done and it neutral. Thanks @Bruin2:. Just those two points.... oh and Alt1 looks as if it won't do as the acticle (and the first source) says "His father was John (Jack) Martin, Senior, a white man who was reportedly the brother of General Joseph Martin." - (can you also fix the link to Gen. Martin) Victuallers (talk) 14:56, 22 October 2015 (UTC)


Temperance songs

Temperance song sheet music cover
Temperance song sheet music cover
  • ALT1:... that the tune for "Oh! Susanna" by Stephen Foster was used ten years later by Foster to write a song (another temperance song pictured) against the dangers of alcohol?

Created by Barbara (WVS) (talk). Self-nominated at 10:46, 14 October 2015 (UTC).


  • Symbol question.svg Comments, not a review. @Barbara (WVS): Commendable subject, first of all. Secondly, I'm not sure you can claim Stephen Foster and Oh Susanna! as DYK, although you can link them in the hooks. I'm guessing that's what you really meant to do, but are uncertain about the process steps here.
  • Temperance songs created by Barbara (WVS) on October 14, 2015 - no problem with the date on this one.
  • Oh Susanna! is too old for DYK credit (but you can link it). It was created May 19, 2005 and has not been expanded.
  • Stephen Foster was created January 30, 2003 and was 10065 characters (0 words) "readable prose size" on Aug 25, 2015, the last date before you began expansion with your alternate account of Bfpage. It would have to be 50,325 characters of readable prose to qualify as 5X expansion. At present, it's only 12991 characters (0 words) "readable prose size" Also, the expansion needs to be done within 7 days of the nomination. You started that expansion on Sept 14, 2015.
  • You need to source the Political developments section.
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg So, I'm giving the turn-around arrow here, to make sure somebody gives this nomination a complete review. And I'm pinging @Mandarax: and @BlueMoonset: to see if any technical tweaks about the two hooks need to be given to this template.— Maile (talk) 22:12, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Done. I also added a caption and (pictured), which anyone should feel free to shorten or otherwise tweak. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 01:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the fix and I apologize for not fully understanding the process, which resulted in someone else having to take the time to clarify my submission to highlight the Temperance songs article. I knew the others didn't meet the standards but thought they all had to be submitted because they all appear in the hook. The graphic that accompanies the submission is a cover from another Temperance song, not the Stephen Foster song. The text on the graphic is quite amusing and says something like "the lips that touch liquor shall never touch mine" but it is not the temperance song he wrote. The graphic is meant to represent an example of a Temperance song, not the Stephen Foster song. Sorry to bore you with the details but the exact lyrics to Foster's temperance song is contained in the article Temperance songs. You'll have to hum "Oh Susanna" along with the new lyrics sometime, it will make you laugh.
Barbara (WVS) (talk) 02:08, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps the Alt wording would be best to highlight the name of the article Temperance song.
Barbara (WVS) (talk) 02:12, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg For accuracy, the (pictured) is pretty wordy. It should ideally be trimmed if someone can figure out how to do it appropriately, or maybe it could be omitted. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 02:34, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I trimmed the "sheet music cover" phrase from the parenthetical "pictured" in both of the above hooks, while leaving "temperance" there so the word does appear somewhere in the hook, but I also reordered ALT1 as ALT1a below, which I hope is a bit more compact. Let me know if you think it works. BlueMoonset (talk) 03:07, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I concur with the ALT1a version and have located other graphics to go with the hook, although I love the original graphic for its wording: "The lips that touch liquor shall never touch mine".
  • File:Oh! Susanna 1.jpg
  • The Drunkard's Progress - Color.jpg
  • File:StephenFoster.jpeg
  • File:Stephen Foster.jpg
Barbara (WVS) (talk) 16:28, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2000

Donald Trump 2000 campaign logo
Donald Trump 2000 campaign logo

Created by William S. Saturn (talk). Self-nominated at 21:53, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Article is new, meets Wikipedia policies, DYK hook is cited in article, and article is definitely long enough. Hook format is short enough and hook is interesting, but the formatting is a bit funny. The ellipses before the question mark are unnecessary, I believe. I also am unsure about the photo. It's from a new user and says it's their own work but it's hard to verify, imo. I would cut the photo just to be safe. Fuzchia (talk) 17:04, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
@Fuzchia: - Other than the ellipses (which I have removed), what exactly is funny about the formatting of the hook? Will this receive the green check mark?William S. Saturn (talk) 05:14, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Nope, that was it! Looks good. Here's your green check mark! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fuzchia (talkcontribs) 15:06, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. William S. Saturn (talk) 23:02, 15 October 2015 (UTC)


2015 National Games of India medal table

Moved to mainspace by Bharatiya29 (talk). Self-nominated at 08:38, 13 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Hook wording trimmed a bit. Edwardx (talk) 22:32, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg The hook is short enough, but it doesn't seem to be particularly well tied to the article. It needs a new hook that's related to the medal table. As for everything else, the article is new enough (started on the 12th), long enough (2000+ characters), is neutral, cites properly, and looks to be free of copyright violations. QPQ isn't needed (second nomination), and there's no image. Let me know when you've got some new hooks and I'll re-review. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 20:17, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that 1334 medals were awarded in the 2015 National Games of India?
  • Symbol confirmed.svg I reworded ALT1 so that it was clear that the bolded article referred to the medals table. Either of ALT 2 or ALT 3 are good to go. If you prefer one over the other, strike the one you don't like out, so that the one you like is the one that gets picked for the main page. If you don't have a preference, it'll be the choice of the admin that promotes this to the main page. The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 22:52, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 14[edit]

2004–05 Arsenal F.C. season

Improved to Good Article status by Lemonade51 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 21:19, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Connotations (Copland)

  • ... that the premiere of Aaron Copland's Connotations, on September 23, 1962, "sent shock waves through the world of music"?

Improved to Good Article status by Jonyungk (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 20:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Template:Did you know nominations/Revival (Selena Gomez album)

Gambling in Cambodia

Created by WilliamThweatt (talk). Self-nominated at 06:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Maria Möller

Maria Möller
Maria Möller

Created by BabbaQ (talk) and Werldwayd (talk). Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) at 12:26, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg By my count, the prose portion of this article is below the 1500 character minimum. If you expand it, I can review it for you, but it needs to first meet the length requirements. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 19:53, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @Notecardforfree: Thank you. I have expanded the article. Let me know what you think.BabbaQ (talk) 19:59, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg This article was created on October 14, it is over the 1500 character threshold, and there are no policy violations. The image used here is licensed via CC. The hook is under 200 characters and I will AGF that because Möller is primarily known for her work on stage, the fact that she is a classically trained vocalist is unusual and interesting. However, there are two issues that need to be addressed before this nomination can pass. The first is that the link to the source supporting this hook is dead. Can you fix the link? The second is that another editor has stated the QPQ used for this nomination does not meet minimum standards necessary for a review. Can you supply another QPQ? Also, you say that Möller is a "suffler." I'm not too familiar with all the jobs associated with the stage and theater, but I couldn't find a definition for what a "suffler" is. Can you clarify this? Thanks, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:40, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg The citation issue has been resolved, but the QPQ issue has not. The QPQ review for Julie Schwabe is almost identical to the one that was rejected by BlueMoonset. A new QPQ is needed bfore this nomination can be approved. Thanks, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 22:21, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
OK, I see. Lets try with Anibal Escalante. @Notecardforfree: BabbaQ (talk) 16:35, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
BabbaQ. The new review is functionally equivalent to the one that was rejected by BlueMoonset. I don't want to undermine BlueMoonset's judgment in this matter, so I think it may be best to start a new review and use that as your QPQ. Thanks, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 17:27, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Notecardforfree it was approved and if there had been any problems with that qpq it would have been raised at the time.BabbaQ (talk) 17:29, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Alright, fair enough I have made a new review on Ioan Missir.BabbaQ (talk) 17:32, 20 October 2015 (UTC)


Villa Geber

Villa Geber
Villa Geber
  • ... that Villa Geber (pictured) is best known as being Sweden's most expensive liveable property?
  • ALT1:... that Villa Geber (pictured) is best known as being Sweden's second most expensive liveable property when it was sold to Salvatore Grimaldi in 2000?

Created by BabbaQ (talk) and Werldwayd (talk). Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) at 12:37, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg The source is in Swedish; I ran it through google translate and it looks like it says Villa Geber is one of the most expensive homes in Sweden, rather than the most expensive home in Sweden. BabbaQ, can you please clarify this? Thanks, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 02:45, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @Notecardforfree:Yes you are actually right. I thought I found the right source. But anyway, I have corrected that information and added a better source.BabbaQ (talk) 16:33, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Salvatore Grimaldi

Salvatore Grimaldi
Salvatore Grimaldi

Created by BabbaQ (talk) and Werldwayd (talk). Nominated by BabbaQ (talk) at 12:40, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg It looks like this article is also below the 1500 character minimum. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:02, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg This article was created on October 14, the article is over the 1500 character threshold, and the article is within policy. The images are licensed by CC. QPQ is satisfied, though you really need to check for close paraphrasing when reviewing nominations. I double checked the Navroji Mistri article (everything looked okay), but checking for plagiarism is an essential component of DYK reviews. The hook here is under 200 characters, but I don't think it satisfies the "interesting" requirement. People get honorary degrees all the time for all kinds of reasons -- there is nothing inherently noteworthy or interesting about receiving an honorary degree. Therefore, I would like to propose this alternate hook:
  • ALT1 ... that Salvatore Grimaldi has been described as the "richest immigrant in Sweden"?
Let me know what you think of this new hook. If you like it, then we'll have to get another editor to approve it, because you cannot approve your own hooks. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 23:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've reworded the first hook and unlinked Sweden in the ALT1, per WP:OVERLINK. Edwardx (talk) 20:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Because I am the author of ALT1, we'll need another editor to approve this. Many thanks to Edwardx for their editorial fine-tuning! -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:58, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

KIC 8462852

The constellation of Cygnus
The constellation of Cygnus
  • ... that KIC 8462852 in Cygnus (pictured) will be searched for signs of alien civilisation?
  • ALT1 ... that Tabby's star in Cygnus (pictured) will be searched for signs of alien civilisation?
  • ALT2 ... that Tabby's star in Cygnus (pictured) with very unusual objects in orbit, is being searched for signs of alien civilisation?

Created by Spudst3r (talk) and Drbogdan (talk). Nominated by Andrew Davidson (talk) at 11:52, 18 October 2015 (UTC). Comment - Things are happening fast. The SETI Institute already started scanning the vicinity of the star for radio transmissions. Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 13:27, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

  • @BatteryIncluded: Thanks for the comment. As you're already familiar with the topic, perhaps you could do a timely review here, please? Andrew D. (talk) 13:59, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
I am unfamiliar with procedures. My review is ALT2. Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 14:07, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Since you and Drbogdan are the top contributors to the article,[8] I don't think you are eligible to review the hook, although I'm sure someone will chime in here to correct me if I'm wrong as the rules are somewhat hazy on this point (the DYKmake wikitext below indicates you are receiving credit for this hook). FWIW, is there any evidence that this star is actively referred to as "Tabby's star"? I'm asking because after reading all of the literature and listening to all the interviews and podcasts, I don't recall seeing that term in use. Viriditas (talk) 22:12, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
@Viriditas: Yes "Tabby's star" is referenced at: REF-1[1] - and REF-2[2] - and REF-3[3] - also see => "Talk:KIC 8462852#Unofficial names" - hope this helps - iac - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 22:27, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm aware of those sources, Drbogdan, hence the problem. As I said above, is there any evidence that this star is actively referred to as "Tabby's star"? Those sources that you provided only show that Wright uses it as an affectation out of respect for his colleague. Putting the recentism aside, most sources (and other researchers) do not refer to it by that name nor is it an official designation. As a result, I do not think it should be used in the hook and I don't think it should be given the weight it currently receives. Viriditas (talk) 22:35, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
@Viriditas: Thank you for your clarification - yes - I understand - and agree with you - and supportive of your viewpoint - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 22:53, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Comment in orbit is speculation at this point. The objects don't have to be gravitational bound to the star (though it's likely). Gap9551 (talk) 22:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ Newsome, John (16 October 2015). "Space anomaly gets extraterrestrial intelligence experts' attention". CNN News. Retrieved 16 October 2015. 
  2. ^ Staff (15 October 2015). "Discovery of a strange star could mean alien life". Fox News. Retrieved 16 October 2015. 
  3. ^ King, Bob (16 October 2015). "What’s Orbiting KIC 8462852 – Shattered Comet or Alien Megastructure?". Universe Today. Retrieved 16 October 2015. 

Iranian underground missile bases

Created by بلده (talk). Nominated by Mhhossein (talk) at 07:29, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol delete vote.svg Article has been thoroughly and exhaustively reviewed and is found lacking, to wit: (1) Hook-2 - content is not interesting, and, (2) Article-3 - content is not neutral; it appears to intentionally frame alleged Iranian ballistic missiles as offensive weaponry, enforcing an idea advanced by some elements in contemporary U.S. political discourse of an "expansionist" Iranian state (the numerous userboxes this relatively new editor has placed on their userpage is not sufficient to overcome this concern). Further, the RS of Xinhua and Trend News Agency merits scrutiny. LavaBaron (talk) 11:59, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but can any one explain what LavaBaron really means? The hook is so interesting to be repeated by numerous reliable sources, one could easily get it by a simple search through those news outlets some of which are used as references to this article. The reviewer would better exactly say which part of the article is not neutral and why (the reviewer has made some general comments!). Finally, I can't understand how my user page "is not sufficient to overcome this [which I don't understand] concern." The article is merely reflecting the facts presented by the sources. There's also an analysis section. I would add any other views if there existed! Mhhossein (talk) 12:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
IMO, the tone of this article presupposes Iranian ballistic missiles are offensive weapons, when there is a wide body of contention (e.g. Ken Waltz, et. al.) that advances the idea that Iranian ballistic missiles are a necessary power balancing technology (Ali Akbar Velayati, himself, has referred to them as "defensive weapons"). One-third of the article relies on a quote from an IDF official expressing fear of a "surprise attack," which - without any balancing statement - simply plays into an Islamophobic trope. This article seems to attempt to make Iran look like some kind of cartoon villain with secret bunkers inside volcanoes on skull-shaped islands. LavaBaron (talk) 13:11, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Those sources (Xinhua and Trend News Agency) were replaced by The Guardian! Mhhossein (talk) 13:09, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Given that the issue of Xinhua and Trend has been addressed, I withdraw my DYKno - while maintaining my strenuous objections about neutrality and interest-level - and defer to a new editor to review. LavaBaron (talk) 13:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


Roshanara

Roshanara by Robert Henri
Roshanara by Robert Henri

Created by Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 21:57, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough (moved to articlespace on 14 October), long enough (2341 characters). Article is neutral, appropriately referenced, and spotchecked material did not reveal plagariasm or close paraphrasing. Hook is interesting, and appropriately worded. One correction should be made prior to acceptance and queuing: the sentence supporting the hook appears to be missing a word ("Craddock taught and the later film star, Bette Davis was one of her dance pupils", probably should read "taught dance").
The image requested has some licensing issues. In fact, all three images have licensing issues to a greater or lesser extent. The first two are both licensed PD-US as works published before 1923, but there needs to be evidence that they were actually published and not just taken prior to that date (I'm pretty sure these are both publicity photos, which would clearly have been distributed and, thus, published, but that should be clarified). The third image, which is requested as part of this DYK, is licensed PD-old-80, but this is not sufficient to demonstrate the artwork is in the public domain in the United States. Because this image may have been cropped somewhat from the actual artwork, it is not safe to assume that it did not comply with the initial copyright registration formalities in 1926 when it was created; however, since Robert Henri died shortly after painting it, it is very unlikely that a copyright renewal was filed in 1954. That would, at a minimum, qualify it for PD-US-not renewed, but you will need to check the 1954 Catalog of Copyright Entries to be certain of that. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 17:43, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
hmm you are setting some difficult problems. I'll answer the three of them in the order you raised them @Squeamish Ossifrage:
  1. As regards the hook - please suggest an alt that suits you. It makes sense to me, but I don't understand your suggested change that addresses the point you are making.
  2. The first two images. You ask for prove that publicity pictures were distributed. I know how to show publishing but I have no idea how to do prove distribution if not published. Are you suggesting we delete them as one is from the Library of Congress. Maybe they have the evidence you say is required? Otherwise this might snowball into deleting a great number of photographs on Commons. Do you know how to prove that pictures were distributed? I think it unlikely that incontrovertible evidence exists and 'common sense/reasonable person view' may be required. If you are sure then we'll delete them.
  3. Was the third image cropped? Strange question. (Can you supply a link to the rule as I've never seen that bit) But being as this image was placed on line and sold for 130,000 dollars then I would guess that it may be fairly complete. What evidence is required? There is a picture of it in a frame on commons.
Thats a long reply I'm afraid, but you have raised some issues and it seems fair that I address them in detail. Victuallers (talk) 22:31, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
My apologies if some of my statements were unclear:
  • 1) The hook is fine. I was just pointing out that the associated line of text in the article itself (that I quoted, above) reads awkwardly and should probably be cleaned up a little.
  • 2) I know no one likes dealing with the technical details of image licensing! The issue here is that the pre-1923 date only ensures material is in the public domain if it was published prior to that cutoff, not merely created. Upon further review, the Underwood & Underwood image is fine; it has their studio insignia, and is clearly a piece prepared for distribution rather than merely a photograph. I'll @Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ):, who uploaded the other of these two images, to see if there's information available to ensure the licensing is all in order there as well.
  • 3) I've done what I can to fix this for you. Mostly, it needed a US-PD notice. "Publication" for artwork is sometimes tricky, but there's very little chance of this being other than in the public domain now.
Sorry to be a stickler for the details of licensing. Hopefully everything will be squared away shortly. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:02, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Thats OK - we are trying to keep inside the law - whilst completing the prime directive (:-) ). The details of "Richard"s image are now available. I did think they were there but they were not obvious. If you follow the link then it will take to the Library of congress Flickr stream which confirmed that the image was published by the Bains new service in 1915 .... so the 1923 rule applies... and the Library of Congress say its PD Victuallers (talk) 15:48, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Yep, I think we're good now. Ideally, that one line in the article could use rewording to improve the prose, but I'm not going to stand on principle over it. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:39, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Thomas á Jesu

  • ... that monks who wanted to live a life of solitude in the 16th-century "desert" hermitages founded by Thomas á Jesu had to apply and meet strict criteria?

5x expanded by 184.147.131.85 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:21, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Pinol, Máchica

Milk, máchica (in bag) and pinol mix (in tin)
Milk, máchica (in bag) and pinol mix (in tin)
  • ... that although pinol, a drink made with máchica (toasted barley flour), panela (unrefined sugar) and spices, was invented in the 20th century, it's already considered a traditional beverage of Ecuador?

Created by GrammarFascist (talk). Self-nominated at 03:50, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Saul Adadi

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 23:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

William Donald Scherzer

Rolling lift bridge
Rolling lift bridge

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk). Self-nominated at 20:41, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Lots of refs including one that supports the hook. Lengths are fine. I think animated gifs are great for this and they make a change from another head shot. I added some text to explain how the bridge works. Neutral and I saw no close paraphrasing but pay walls stopped me on some sources. Nice little artible. Thanks Victuallers (talk) 14:21, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
  • In the interests of brevity, I've added a more concise ALT1. Edwardx (talk) 22:29, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
As originator of hook I have struck original, as I like ALT1 better. Thanks Edwardx.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:40, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Murder of Richard Everitt

  • ... that the perpetrator of the murder of Richard Everitt was never apprehended, because members of the gang who killed him fled to Bangladesh?

Created by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 20:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC).


SummerThing!

  • ... that SummerThing! was premiered on the Saturday Night Online radio show?

5x expanded by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 12:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

Eleanore Pettersen

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:15, 14 October 2015 (UTC).

Symbol delete vote.svg-whats great about it?Aryan from Hindustan (talk) 10:24, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment Huh? 7&6=thirteen () 15:58, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Comment Review under way. 7&6=thirteen () 11:01, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
  • DYK checklist template

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Passes DYK checklist.

  • Review Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go! Meets core policies and guidelines, and in particular: is neutral; cites sources with inline citations; is free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism. DYK nomination was timely and article is easily long enough. Every paragraph is cited. Hook references are verified and cited. No copyright violations or too close paraphrasing. Earwig's copy violation detector: Eleanore Petterson report gives it a clean bill. Hooks are hooky enough, I think, and relate directly to the essence of the article: interesting, decently neutral, and appropriately cited. QPQ done. 7&6=thirteen () 12:17, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
Could we restate and use ALT 2 as "... that Eleanore Pettersen, one of the first women to open an architectural firm in New Jersey, designed two houses that were lived in by Richard Nixon?" I think it is clearer and better tracks the source's language. 7&6=thirteen () 12:31, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
The source explicitly says "the first New Jersey woman to open her own architectural firm", so I'm not sure what you're talking about. 97198 (talk) 06:09, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Current nominations[edit]

Articles created/expanded on October 15[edit]

Centris pallida

  • ... that Centris pallida males regularly have internal temperatures only three degrees Celsius from being lethal?

Created by Floyd Burney (talk). Self-nominated at 06:08, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Poles in Bosnia and Herzegovina

  • ALT1:... that Polish colonists introduced synthetic fertilizers and non-food crops into the north of Bosnia?
  • ALT2:... that 70 years after repatriation, Bosnian Poles and their descendants maintain certain aspects of Bosnian culture?
  • Reviewed: pending

Created by Surtsicna (talk). Self-nominated at 20:57, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Mark Slonim

Created by Dahn (talk). Self-nominated at 10:57, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Jaba', Jenin

General view of Jaba'
General view of Jaba'

5x expanded by Al Ameer son (talk) and Huldra (talk). Nominated by Al Ameer son (talk) at 23:57, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

French destroyer Jaguar

Improved to Good Article status by Sturmvogel 66 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 20:26, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Staten Island Railway

Improved to Good Article status by Kew Gardens 613 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 18:39, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Boise National Forest

Trinity Mountains in Boise National Forest
Trinity Mountains in Boise National Forest

Improved to Good Article status by Fredlyfish4 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 17:10, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • DYK checklist template
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Passes DYK checklist. Recently promoted to Good Article status. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:00, 19 October 2015 (UTC)


Eulie Chowdhury

Created by Nvvchar (talk) and Missvain (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 14:19, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

My Scientology Movie

The Hole at Gold Base, Hemet, California
The Hole at Gold Base, Hemet, California

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 21:08, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article was created a few days ago, in conjunction with the film's release. No issue with readability or validity of hook, is cited appropriately. Length is fine. Image is that of the article's. Lemonade51 (talk) 23:27, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Gertrude Leverkus

  • ... that Gertrude Leverkus was the only woman among 500 men to sit her final exams in architecture?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 10:42, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS. GTG. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 13:11, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Beverly Loraine Greene

  • ... that the memorial service for Beverly L. Greene, believed to be the first African American woman licensed as an architect in the United States, took place in a funeral home that she had designed?

Created by SusunW (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 23:50, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The article is new enough, long enough, neutrally written and referenced. Interesting hook and content. A minor suggestion: cause of death (at such an early age) and images of her works may be included. Good to go. --Clithering (talk) 09:52, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg @SusunW: Uh oh. Look what I just found: Beverly Lorraine Greene, created a day after this nomination. These articles must be merged (although I think the present nomination is the better written one). Yoninah (talk) 10:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Support is withdrawn for the time being pending clarifications from both the creator and the nominator. --Clithering (talk) 16:39, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I have no idea how to fix that or what a merge even is. Not even sure how to initiate same. Apparently the creator of the other article was able to do that because they spelled the name wrong? What do we do about it? SusunW (talk) 17:36, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • No problem, I read WP:MERGEREASON and went ahead and redirected the other article to this page. This page has the correct spelling, and also has far better referencing than the other article. The content was almost identical; therefore, it's considered an obvious duplicate and any editor can be bold and do the redirect. We can go ahead with the DYK now. Yoninah (talk) 17:49, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Yoninah you know I have no technical skills with Wikipedia :) I am so grateful for those of you who do. SusunW (talk) 18:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Since the most commonly used name should be used as the article title, please advise "Beverly Loraine Greene" and "Beverly L. Greene", which one should be adopted?--Clithering (talk) 01:34, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Sources are about equal in what they call her. Thus, I would say her full name. Women's names don't work like men's names. More often than not, until the 1970s at least in the US, it was considered "impolite and too familiar" to refer to a woman by her given name. It makes finding sources for women really hard. You can always pare down what you know but if you start with a pared down version, it is often difficult to find the entirety and thus sources. I have little doubt that was a consideration in the naming protocols on Wikipedia, because no where does it advise that looking for Mrs. John Doe might help find sourcing. ;) SusunW (talk) 02:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I was just wondering whether her middle name should be given in full in the hook for the sake of consistency with the article name. Thank you for your detailed explanation and the article is surely good to go now. --Clithering (talk) 03:20, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
@Clithering: I worked on adding sources, and also wrote the hook. The sources equally refer to her as Beverly Greene and Beverly Loraine Greene. But the hook would go over 200 characters if we spell out her full name. There is really no requirement to spell out a name in a hook; for example, we often write Bach or Mozart, to keep it short. I only put the L. in because SusunW used her middle name in the title. I'm perfectly fine with deleting the initial in the interests of keeping the character count down:
  • ALT1: ... that the memorial service for Beverly Greene, believed to be the first African American woman licensed as an architect in the United States, took place in a funeral home that she had designed? Yoninah (talk) 09:13, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

María Luisa Dehesa Gómez Farías

Created by SusunW (talk). Nominated by Yoninah (talk) at 23:26, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS, AGF Spanish sources. GTG. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 13:07, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Lake Glory

  • ... that Lake Glory has an "inspirational name"?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 23:11, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Meithalun, Marj Sanur

Meithalun (foreground) and Marj Sanur (background)
Meithalun (foreground) and Marj Sanur (background)

Created/expanded by Al Ameer son (talk) and Huldra (talk). Nominated by Al Ameer son (talk) at 23:10, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Elephantomyia longirostris

Elephantomyia longirostris male
Elephantomyia longirostris male

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 23:07, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Debra Crew

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 21:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is new enough and long enough. Hook is interesting and cited and verified. No copy vio noted, Prose is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go.Nvvchar. 12:47, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Schloss Krobnitz

Schloss Krobnitz
Schloss Krobnitz

Created by Yakikaki (talk). Self-nominated at 19:21, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Symbol question.svgEverything is ok: it is new enough, neutral enough, quiet well-cited; however it is not long enough (only 1,435 characters), it should reach 1,500 characters. Improved this and it should be ok.--Rochelimit (talk) 17:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Rochelimit for the review! Including spaces (which are supposed to be included according to WP:DYKSG) I count, in the prose part of the article, excluding the lead, 1691 characters - am I missing something? Best regards, Yakikaki (talk) 18:53, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svgOops ok Yakikaki, I guess it's fine.--Rochelimit (talk) 07:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Shisha Gumbad

Shisha Gumbad
Shisha Gumbad
  • ... that Shisha Gumbad is a monument constructed between 1489 and 1517 CE and houses a tomb, perhaps of an unknown person from the last lineage of the Lodhi Dynasty?

Created by AKS.9955 (talk). Self-nominated at 17:29, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg New and long enough, user exempt from performing QPQ review per QPQ check results, image to be used is properly licensed, article content is free from copyright infringement and close paraphrasing (e.g. [9]).
Matters that need to be addressed:
  • The first paragraph in the Construction section does not have any inline citations. Per the DYK supplementary rules #D2, "The article in general should use inline, cited sources. A rule of thumb is one inline citation per paragraph, excluding the intro, plot summaries, and paragraphs which summarize other cited content."
  • Regarding the hook, this source used in the article states that the person buried in the tomb is unknown, and it states that "There is no indication as to why these were built. In all probability they are buildings of the Lodhi period." This source states, "It is not known who lies buried. here. It was perhaps built during Sikandar Lodi's reign (A.D. 1489-1517)", but may not be a reliable source. Inre this matter, the article and hook needs to be updated to state that the era when this person was placed in the tomb is estimated, rather than (as worded) certain.
  • Regarding the construction dates, this source used in the article states about the "Sheesh Gumbad (Tomb)" that "These monuments (Tombs) were built between 1433 to 1533". This contradicts the dates in the article and hook. This source, which I view to be unreliable, and hence not usable to verify content of the hook, states that "Sheesh Gumbad, which stands opposite, was built around the same time", in reference to the time period of 1494. Better sourcing is needed to verify the claim that the tomb was built between 1489-1517 CE. North America1000 04:50, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Hello North America, following are my comments and action taken.
  • Inline citation. Apologies for the oversight, citations added.
  • Hook:Amended.
  • Construction dates: I have also provided this source in the article. Please let me know if this can be accepted for 1489-1517?
Many thanks for your time and quick revert; appreciate it. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 14:27, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the improvements. Unless I'm missing something, I'm not seeing it mentioned in any of the sources about the unknown person "from the last lineage of the Lodhi Dynasty". North America1000 01:28, 21 October 2015 (UTC)



The Silent Command

  • Reviewed: Roshanara
  • Comment: Depending how quickly reviewers get to this, there may be quite a bit of ongoing expansion (especially in Reception, where I need to dig out the appropriate 1920s sources); this certainly is not ready for GAC! But it is already a fivefold expansion at the time of nomination.

5x expanded by Squeamish Ossifrage (talk). Self-nominated at 17:19, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Jal Mandir

Jal Mandir
Jal Mandir

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 12:52, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Up Out My Face

Improved to Good Article status by Calvin999 (talk). Self-nominated at 11:49, 15 October 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on October 16[edit]

Dochula Pass, Royal Botanical Park, Lampelri

108 memorial chortens o Docula Pass
108 memorial chortens o Docula Pass

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 11:46, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Welcome Wagon (Veronica Mars)

Improved to Good Article status by Johanna (talk). Self-nominated at 02:04, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Passed GAN on 16 October, nominated for DYK on 20 October
  • Hook and article are within length policy
  • Hook is sourced and cited but it's to a DVD commentary so I can't check it.
  • 4 days after being nominated, a QPQ hasn't been supplied.
  • However, I think the hook itself is really unclear. It reads awkwardly because of the structure of clauses and because the song nor the remix nor the band is mentioned, it doesn't make sense. To someone who knows nothing about the subject, it makes it difficult to engage with because it's not understandable. Also, it's only a premiere when it premieres, after that it is the series opener or first episode. Altered is the wrong word, too. Changed would have sufficed. You don't even link to the song in a pipe, at least, either.
  • Nominated is under-prepared in several aspects as listed and the hook is not good enough/difficult to verify. Surely there must be an article online to support this.  — Calvin999 13:36, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg "4 days after being nominated, a QPQ hasn't been supplied"?? This was only nominated today. "under-prepared" nomination is not a criteria for completely rejecting this. By Reviewed it says "TBD", that means there will be a QPQ. A nominator gets time to do that. Yes, it achieved GA on October 16, in a fairly detailed review by someone who has a few review chops under his mouse. New reviewer needed, please. — Maile (talk) 00:23, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
    • Sorry I got a bit confused. I wasn't well yesterday. I've struck my rejection. New reviewer not needed. Hook just needs rewriting and clarifying. Symbol redirect vote 4.svg  — Calvin999 07:20, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

@Calvin999: I have reworded the hook and supplied the QPQ. Take another look. Johanna (formerly BenLinus1214)talk to me!see my work 02:46, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

It's good that you've included the song and band but I still think some of my original issues are unanswered. It just feels long-winded to me and could be put much simpler.  — Calvin999 08:16, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Odyssey Opera

Created by Altenmaeren (talk). Self-nominated at 20:40, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

Harry Alexander (rugby union)

5x expanded by FunkyCanute (talk). Self-nominated at 16:37, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough at 3,008 characters and new enough - nearly 6x expanded since 13 October. The article is decently referenced to a variety of online and offline sources and is within policy with a neutral approach and no copyvios detected. The hook fact is mentioned twice and is cited to an offline ref - I have been able to verify it from my own printed sources. Hook is correctly formatted. No image used in article. QPQ done. OK for DYK. Bcp67 (talk) 09:20, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Vern Miller

  • ... that in 1971, Kansas Attorney General Vern Miller participated in an undercover drug raid by hiding in a trunk of a car in order to make arrests?

Created by Connormah (talk). Self-nominated at 20:59, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg QPQ has not been done yet. -Zanhe (talk) 18:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg New reviewer needed to do a thorough review and provide details of what was checked. DYK review instructions please begin with one of the 6 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed. Details that are supposed to be checked in a review can be found at DYKReviewing guide — Maile (talk) 12:18, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Beatriz del Cueto

Faro de Las Cabezas de San Juan
Faro de Las Cabezas de San Juan

5x expanded by SusunW (talk), Sionk (talk) and Ipigott (talk). Nominated by Sionk (talk) at 19:09, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article length and date of posting verified. Hook is interesting and cited and verified. There is no copy vio detected and the text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go. Nvvchar. 13:45, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Marilyn Monroe

Marilyn Monroe as gangster's moll Angela in John Huston's film noir The Asphalt Jungle (1950)
Marilyn Monroe as gangster's moll Angela in John Huston's film noir The Asphalt Jungle (1950)
  • Reviewed: Green oropendola
  • Comment: Suggestions for alternative hooks are welcome

Improved to Good Article status by TrueHeartSusie3 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 18:50, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

Fizeau experiment

Fizeau's experiment, experimental setup
Fizeau's experiment, experimental setup
  • ... that the Fizeau experiment (setup pictured) was one of the key experimental results that shaped Einstein's thinking about relativity?

Improved to Good Article status by Stigmatella aurantiaca (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 17:48, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg I like the original hook. It sounds more catchy. The article is good. The hook is cited. The GA approval is new enough. It's definitely long enough. The photograph is PD. We're good to go! Étienne Dolet (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Dicranophora fulva

Dicranophora fulva on Suillus bovinus
Dicranophora fulva on Suillus bovinus
  • ... that the mold species Dicranophora fulva (pictured) was not recorded between 1935 and 1994?

Created by Casliber (talk) and Sasata (talk). Nominated by Casliber (talk) at 06:37, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS, AGF paywalled source. GTG. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 13:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Environmental issues in Tehran

Air pollution in Tehran
Air pollution in Tehran

Created by Rye-96 (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 01:28, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg My first thoughts were that this article was a bit contrived to combine pollution and earthquakes as a single issue, but the cited Payvand article does indeed write about both as reasons for moving Iran's capital city. So unless someone objects to the article imminently, it looks okay to me, new enough, long enough, using inline citations appropriately. Hook is fine, interesting enough. I'd suggest the image is a bit weak and unnecessary, it's not overtly about pollution. Apart from that, good to go! Sionk (talk) 19:00, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Thunder (Leona Lewis song)

5x expanded by Calvin999 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:42, 16 October 2015 (UTC).

  • I think you are confusing the concept of betting with daring. One can "bet" another that something will happen, but one cannot "bet" another to do something. 97198 (talk) 12:01, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • No, I'm not confusing anything. When money is involved, it is a bet. Plus, it is sourced as a bet, not a dare.  — Calvin999 12:59, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Okay, what I mean is that the hook doesn't make sense grammatically: one cannot bet another to do something. 97198 (talk) 08:04, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • But you can bet someone money on something. It wasn't a dare. Money was involved, and that is a bet. It is sourced as being a bet, too.  — Calvin999 09:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Sure, it was a bet. I don't really care what it was. All I'm trying to say is that the hook doesn't grammatically make sense. 97198 (talk) 09:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • It makes sense to me.  — Calvin999 09:34, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Javanese traditional house

This style of roof, called the joglo, is associated with Javanese aristocrats.
This style of roof, called the joglo, is associated with Javanese aristocrats.
  • ... that the roof shape of Javanese traditional houses (pictured) determined the social and economic status of the house owners?
  • ALT1... that the roof shape of Javanese traditional houses (pictured) is determined by the social and economic status of the house owners?
  • ALT2... that the social and economic status of the house owners of a Javanese traditional house (pictured) can be determined by the shape of the house's roof?
  • ALT3... that the social and economic status of the owners of a Javanese traditional house (pictured) can be ascertained by the shape of the roof?

Created by Rochelimit (talk). Self-nominated at 16:51, 16 October 2015 (UTC).

  • I'm no expert, but surely it would be the other way round? I've added an ALT1 to reflect that. Edwardx (talk) 22:23, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
    • Hi Edwardx. The original hook refers to the fact that from outside of the house compound, you can only see the roof looming above the perimeter wall, and so you can determine what is the social status or the economic status of the house owner by observing the roof shape. I'm writing another ALT2, is this much understandable?
      • Thanks. ALT2 is even better. I think you could cut the first "house", and that "ascertained" would be less ambiguous than "determined". Edwardx (talk) 11:07, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
        • Thanks for the review Edwardx. I've fixed the wording. Anything missing? Oh and don't forget the approve it with the DYKtick ;) --Rochelimit (talk) 11:43, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg ALT3 approved. New enough. Long enough. QPQ done. Good hook, which is cited. WP:AGF on the sources, which are all off-line. However, the hook fact can be confirmed with online sources. Not possible to assess close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism, but looking at some of the cumbersome English, I'm prepared to AGF on this. NPOV. Image license suitable for front page. Trimmed final "house's" from ALT3 hook. Edwardx (talk) 12:41, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Old-fashioned doughnut

Old-fashioned doughnuts (top)
Old-fashioned doughnuts (top)

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self-nominated at 05:04, 16 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS. I don't see the part about deep-frying in the source, but I'll assume it's somewhere beyond the paywall. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:51, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • That said, the image may be misleading with the hook since not all of these are in fact old-fashioned doughnuts. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:52, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 17[edit]

Elizabeth Williams (producer), TodayTix

  • ... that Broadway producer Elizabeth Williams believes that the mobile app TodayTix may allow Broadway shows "to reach audiences [...] we haven't been able to reach before"?

Created by GrammarFascist (talk). Self-nominated at 12:35, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Whinchat

Whinchat, typical behaviour
  • ... that the whinchat (pictured) breeds in Europe and western Asia from Ireland and northern Portugal east to the Ob River basin, and from northern Norway south to central Spain, Italy and Greece?

Improved to Good Article status by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 21:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Brugherio's plague crosses

a cross in Brugherio
a cross in Brugherio

Created by FrOsmetti (talk), FoCuSandLeArN (talk), Labaici (talk), and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 13:49, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Pssst

  • ... that Pssst revolves around Robbie the Robot's objective to defend his plant from interstellar space slugs?

Improved to Good Article status by Jaguar (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 07:48, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Corinne Bennett

  • ... that cathedral architect Corinne Bennett's interest in stone came from her father, a geology professor?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:35, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg article is long enough, both hooks are interesting and referenced, CopyVio is unlikely, nominated within time, QPQ done. Good to go. --Human3015TALK  00:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Anupama Kundoo

  • ... that Anupama Kundoo, an Indian architect working at Auroville from 1990 created innovations in her project designs by adopting "sustainable building technologies and infrastructural systems"?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 14:03, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

Silvana Imam

Silvana Imam
Silvana Imam
  • ... that Silvana Imam (pictured) and her girlfriend Beatrice Eli performed together in 2015 under the stage name Vierge Moderne?

Created by BabbaQ (talk). Self-nominated at 12:28, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg This article is under the required 1500 character minimum. If you expand it, then I can review it for you, but please remember that the DYK Rules require articles to be at least 1500 characters long. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 19:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @Notecardforfree:Thank you. I have expanded the article. Let me know what you think.BabbaQ (talk) 20:06, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg This article was created on October 17, it is within policy, and the picture here is licensed by CC. The hook is less than 200 characters and supported by inline citations. The sources are in Swedish, but a quick check with google translate verifies their accuracy. QPQ is satisfied. The problem is that this article is still too short (1441 characters). You are very close, but you still need to add a little more material here. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 20:47, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg Now that the article has been expanded above the 1500 character threshold, this is good to go. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 21:12, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg Regrettably, the QPQ was both incomplete and failed to note that the hook was well over the maximum length allowed. If the QPQ is properly completed, then this nomination can be reapproved, but not until then. (Also: I removed the extra ellipsis from the hook here.) BlueMoonset (talk) 05:28, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol possible vote.svg BabbaQ, unfortunately, the QPQ for Catanzaro is almost identical to the QPQ that you initially provided for this article. It looks like you didn't check for close paraphrasing/plagiarism in the Catanzaro review. Also (and this is a moot point now that Catanzaro has already appeared on the main page) the hook was not supported by the source in that article. The source cited examples of crimes that had occurred in the province, but the source did not state that the crimes were committed by organized syndicates. Therefore, another review is needed here before this nomination can be approved. Thanks, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 22:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC
  • BabbaQ, the Leandro Rodríguez review is another review where you did not consider policy criteria. To that extent, it is also functionally equivalent to the review that was rejected by BlueMoonset above. I don't want to undermine BlueMoonset's judgment in this matter, so it may be best to start a new review, rather than link to an old one. I really appreciate the work you have done to review articles, but I want to be fair to the judgments of other editors as well. Thanks so much for your understanding with this. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 17:23, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol voting keep.svg The new QPQ satisfies all relevant criteria. Now that this issue has been settled, this is good to go. Thanks, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 17:52, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

The Red Sea Sharks

Improved to Good Article status by Midnightblueowl (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 08:32, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • DYK checklist template
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Passes DYK checklist. No image used in hook line, which is alright. Recently promoted to Good Article status. Good to Go. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 11:57, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Bara Gumbad

Bara Gumbad.
Bara Gumbad.

Created by AKS.9955 (talk). Self-nominated at 06:11, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

Operation Zeppelin (deception plan)

  • ... that a Zeppelin helped the Allies during World War II?

5x expanded by ErrantX (talk). Self-nominated at 21:15, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article is expanded enough, is well cited throughout, and is written in a neutral way and free of copyvio. The problem is with the hook, I can't find a citation for it, and whether it's correct or not is really a matter of interpreting what's actually cited, which is that "it is likely that it bolstered the belief that...", "According to Jacob Field, the operation successfully detained twenty five divisions in defensive positions", and "whether directly related to Zeppelin or not...", &c. Could we please have a hook which is definitely supported by a reliable source? Moonraker (talk) 20:33, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for the review. Is this not sufficient: "the Allies considered it to have achieved the main objectives of tying down German forces in the region". The objective of Zeppelin was to do exactly that, tie up German forces in the area. Yes, there is no evidence that the German's really thought that an invasion would happen (note: if you dig into this topic everyone always couches analysis with caution because it was a confused time and the operations were complex) but they were cautious enough to do what the Allies wanted anyway. I always try to find interesting hooks that intrigue the reader; I could pull a dry fact from the article but that doesn't really excite me :) --Errant (chat!) 20:56, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Actually, what I have done is re-worked the Impact section to make clear the point: Zeppelin was a success, with some details about why and how much following. Does that address concerns? If it also helps a direct quote from the source is: "Plan Zeppelin had in general achieved the required objects" --Errant (chat!) 21:00, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Errant, I do sympathize, a dry fact would have less impact, but a DYK hook has to be cited, a hook can't be an inference or one that might well be correct. If you were saying "...that a Zeppelin is believed to have tied down German forces in the Balkans", that would be fine, as you have a citation for it, but I couldn't find one to support "helped the Allies". Moonraker (talk) 23:10, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
So your concern is with the word helped? If so, I've found a source that explicitly says this & rewritten part of the impact section to reflect the wording in the hook with inline sourcing :) --Errant (chat!) 08:10, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Symbol voting keep.svg Yes, indeed, because the hook must be cited. Offline source accepted AGF. Ready to go. Moonraker (talk) 22:01, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Joseph Hobson

  • ... that Joseph Hobson designed the first underwater railroad tunnel to a foreign country?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk) and Paul W. (talk) Nominated at 14:49, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Article is new enough, large enough and well referenced. Hook fact is interesting, neutral, and cited with inline citation in the article. AGF on offline reference. QPQ done. Oceanh (talk) 19:15, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Qatar Airways Flights 15 and 16

A Qatar Airways A319
A Qatar Airways A319

Created by SSTflyer (talk). Self-nominated at 11:53, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

Jon-Erik Beckjord

Jon-Erik Beckjord with Bigfoot poster
Jon-Erik Beckjord with Bigfoot poster
  • ... that crypto-researcher Jon-Erik Beckjord (pictured) believed the Loch Ness Monster was an alien pet?
  • ALT1:... that Jon-Erik Beckjord's (pictured) UFO and Bigfoot musuem was billed as one of San Francisco's "strangest?"
  • ALT2:... that Jon-Erik Beckjord (pictured) believed Martian lava and rock formations resembled Ted Kennedy and Tammy Faye Bakker?
  • Comment: Reviewed: Devin Wilson

5x expanded by SojoQ (talk). Self-nominated at 11:31, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on October 18[edit]

Death of Lucas Leonard

Created by FiredanceThroughTheNight (talk). Self-nominated at 00:07, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Avonmouth railway station

Avonmouth railway station
Avonmouth railway station

Improved to Good Article status by Mattbuck (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 20:51, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Zoka Zola

  • ... that Zoka Zola’s desing of Zero Energy house blends every available space in the house with solar, wind and geothermal methods in a "modern-organic fusion style"?

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 06:56, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Kristin Feireiss

Created by Rosiestep (talk) and Dr. Blofeld (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 05:05, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Diachlorus ferrugatus

yellow fly
yellow fly

Created by Casliber (talk). Self-nominated at 11:56, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article's prose length is 1468 ch, a few words short for eligibility. Please add some more text for further review.Nvvchar. 12:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've added an ALT2, a more concise version of the original hook. Edwardx (talk) 22:57, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Ancient grains

Amaranth, an ancient grain
Amaranth, an ancient grain
  • ... that ancient grains are considered to be more nutritional than other grains and remained unchanged for thousands of years?

Created by Jcampsall (talk) and Human3015 (talk). Nominated by Human3015 (talk) at 00:48, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Ethel Mairet

  • ... that Ethel Mairet has been called "the mother of English hand-weaving"?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 20:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment Review under way. 7&6=thirteen () 20:27, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • DYK checklist template

Image eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Symbol confirmed.svg Passes DYK checklist.

  • Review Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go! Meets core policies and guidelines, and in particular: is neutral; cites sources with inline citations; is free of close paraphrasing issues, copyright violations and plagiarism. DYK nomination was timely and article is easily long enough. Every paragraph is cited. Hook references are verified and cited. No copyright violations or too close paraphrasing. In passing, I note that I did not have access to the offline sources and only limited access to those that are "subscription required." Earwig's copy violation detector: Ethel Mairet report gives it a clean bill. Hook is hooky enough, I think, and relates directly to the essence of the article. It is interesting, decently neutral, and appropriately cited. QPQ done. 7&6=thirteen () 14:25, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
    Comment Very thorough review and lots of corrections/additions made - thanks Victuallers (talk) 14:40, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Charlotte (anime)

  • ... that the anime series Charlotte has been described as defying the "moe anime" stereotype?

Improved to Good Article status by Juhachi (talk). Self-nominated at 21:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

Peter Padfield

Mayflower II
Mayflower II

Created by Moonraker (talk). Nominated by Moonraker (talk) at 21:50, 18 October 2015 (UTC).


James D. Pfluger Pedestrian and Bicycle Bridge

  • ... that, with a double-hourglass-shaped deck and helical onramp, the Pfluger Pedestrian Bridge contains almost no straight lines?

Created by Bryanrutherford0 (talk). Self-nominated at 20:29, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

Long War (mod)

Created by The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk). Self-nominated at 20:20, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

Beaver Run (Bowman Creek)

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 13:13, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

Hettesheimer Run

  • ... that Hettesheimer Run was historically used as an industrial water supply, but is now Class A Wild Trout Waters?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 13:14, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Well-sourced, no copyvio, date of nomination checks out in light of mainspace move. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:17, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Stone Run (Bowman Creek)

  • ... that Stone Run was historically stocked with trout, but is now Class A Wild Trout Waters?

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 13:15, 18 October 2015 (UTC).


Nesting (international relations)

Created by LavaBaron (talk). Self-nominated at 11:04, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Artcile is long enough and interesting. Posted by due date. Hook is interesting, cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go. Nvvchar. 07:26, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Keizō Hayashi

Keizō Hayashi
Keizō Hayashi

Created by Clithering (talk). Self-nominated at 09:37, 18 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Wow, great job, Clithering! What an interesting article. I had to use Google Translate to confirm the hook and, while that is not a good resource for Chinese, the stilted result was close enough I'm convinced it is accurately cited. Beyond that, it meets all criteria in the DYK Big 7. Queue it up! LavaBaron (talk) 08:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I have unlinked Japanese and Second World War, per WP:OVERLINK. Edwardx (talk) 13:00, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
  • @LavaBaron: Thank you very much for your review and encouragement! I would also like to take this opportunity to thank Howard61313 for creating the original article in the Chinese Wikipedia. --Clithering (talk) 13:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 19[edit]

Russia-Syria-Iran-Iraq Coalition

Created by Hadi.anani (talk). Nominated by Mhhossein (talk) at 11:36, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Stella Bloch

Stella Bloch in costume
Stella Bloch in costume
  • ... that Stella Bloch (pictured) headlined in America after she returned from learning Javanese dancing at the Prince of Solo's palace?

Created by Victuallers (talk). Self-nominated at 22:57, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Well, she was lovely.
    Symbol question.svg This is really neither here nor there as to your DYK submission but you really should provide a source for her DOB and DOD, ideally in the #Life section or infobox rather than the lead. Also, kindly notice the comma fixes: it's 日日 Month 年年年年 or Month 日日, 年年年年, but not 日日 Month, 年年年年.
    Also, I know this is a little odd, but Poland didn't exist in the late 19th century. Was she born in the Russian Empire, Austria-Hungary, or the German Empire? You'll need to emend the running text and the infobox. — LlywelynII 12:41, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Chitra Vishwanath

Created by Nvvchar (talk). Self-nominated at 07:14, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

New City Hall (Prague)

schematic of paternoster lift
schematic of paternoster lift

Created by Deziderie (talk), Lockley (talk), and Victuallers (talk). Nominated by Victuallers (talk) at 10:25, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

DakshinaChitra

Heritage homes from Tirunelveli
Heritage homes from Tirunelveli

Improved to Good Article status by Nvvchar (talk), Nirinsanity (talk), Rosiestep (talk), and Zwerg Nase (talk). Nominated by Nvvchar (talk) at 03:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg GA approved on Oct. 19. Nominated on Oct. 20/New enough. 6158 char/long enough. Neutral. In line citations. Hook is verified. No close paraphrasing noted. In-line citations. Hook 181 char./short enough. Photo appears to be PD per commons citation. QPQ done. Appears GTG. SusunW (talk) 22:52, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I wonder if the high status of Brahminical people meets the neutrality condition for DYK... Zwerg Nase (talk) 09:54, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
I took it in the way that one would "high culture" and did not see it as non-neutral, but see how it could be taken that way now that you have noted it Zwerg Nase. Nvvchar, are you willing to strike the phrase "of the high status"? SusunW (talk) 13:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Zwerg Nase.SusunW Thanks. Yes, it can be deleted from the original hook. I have made the correction in the hookNvvchar. 13:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Thanks! Restoring tick. SusunW (talk) 13:41, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Spit & Eggs

  • ... that in "Spit & Eggs", an episode of Veronica Mars, director Rob Thomas used 27 camera angles in a scene that took 11 hours to film?

Improved to Good Article status by Johanna (talk). Self-nominated at 03:03, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

  • In the interests of brevity, I've cut the redundant "for one scene" from the beginning of the hook. Edwardx (talk) 22:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol question.svg Promoted to GA recently enough, clearly long enough and no copyright/neutrality issues. The hook is now short enough, is interesting and cited; I assume good faith on DVD source. Johanna has 9 DYK credits and should do a QPQ before this is passed. '''tAD''' (talk) 05:33, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg All standards are now met. Good to go '''tAD''' (talk) 10:25, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Isabelle Eberhardt

  • ... that while in Algeria in the 1890s, Isabelle Eberhardt dressed as an Arabic man, challenging both gender and racial norms?

Improved to Good Article status by Freikorp (talk). Self-nominated at 23:33, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Recently promoted to GA status, well written, within policy, inline cited, both hooks are interesting and cited. I think we just need another QPQ here since your given needs another reviewer. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 02:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Very well. Both hook facts are good to go now. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 11:28, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

2002 FA Cup Final

Improved to Good Article status by Lemonade51 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:28, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

  • The article is new: Green tickY
  • The article is long enough: Green tickY
  • The hook is interesting: Green tickY
  • The hook is referenced: Green tickY
  • The hook is below 200 characters: Green tickY
  • A google search does not reveal any copyright violation: Green tickY
  • The article follows most other important policies: Green tickY
  • QPQ: Green tickY
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is good to go. Cambalachero (talk) 18:04, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

John Shelton (British Army officer)

  • ... that the "imperious" and "tyrannical" Colonel John Shelton was so unpopular with his men that they gave three cheers when he died after falling off his horse?

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 21:56, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

Papakating Creek

Fraser's Saint John's wort (Triadenum fraseri)
Fraser's Saint John's wort (Triadenum fraseri)

5x expanded by JackTheVicar (talk). Self-nominated at 21:36, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Article length and age are fine, numerous spot checks didn't turn up any copyvio or plagiarism concerns, article appears well sourced, including the hook. Hook is interesting and the image is both aesthetically pleasing and appears properly licensed. However, the St. John's wort image isn't actually used in the article. This is my first review, but I believe the accompanying image must be used in the article. Everything else looks good to go though.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 06:11, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

WilliamThweatt you are correct. The image has been placed in the article...I forgot to add it last night to the Papakating article after writing Triadenum fraseri to turn the redlink blue. Should be good to go now, I hope. JackTheVicar (talk) 12:50, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Looks good. Nice work. On a side note (i.e. nothing technical about the DYK nom), since you mentioned you created the Triadenum fraseri article, I noticed it doesn't mention anything regarding the "rareness" of the species. Since the image will be in the DYK, I imagine it will get a lot of clicks. Readers may want to know just how rare it is, why it's so rare, etc. (that was one of the things I was hoping to find out as I was reading the article myself), especially since its rareness is specifically mentioned in the hook itself. Not a criticism, just an observation. I'd help out and look up refs myself because that's the kind of gnomish editing I like, but I'm short on time this week. Overall, though nice articles. Great additions to WP.--William Thweatt TalkContribs 00:18, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I had solely created the Triadenum fraseri article to turn a red link blue for this DYK and for the article. If the increased attention from Papakating Creek at dyk leads some plant people to improve it, all the better. I will think about improving the Triadenum fraseri article (still trying to figure out plant article formats) but, it isn't a priority for me to perfect the article since botany, while an interest, is neither my focus nor a strength in writing/contributions. JackTheVicar (talk) 14:48, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

List of New Jersey wildlife management areas

Ken Lockwood Gorge Wildlife Management Area in Hunterdon County, New Jersey
Ken Lockwood Gorge Wildlife Management Area in Hunterdon County, New Jersey

Created by JackTheVicar (talk). Self-nominated at 20:52, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article is long enough and well written. Posted by due date. Hook is interesting and and cited and verified. No copy vio noted. Text is neutral. QPQ done. Good to go. Nvvchar. 12:02, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

List of Formula One Grand Prix wins by Ayrton Senna

Ayrton Senna
Ayrton Senna

Created by Harrias (talk). Self-nominated at 15:18, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg -- GOOD TO GO for proposed hook (I prefer the main first one over ALT1). QPQ is pending but I have no doubts that Harrias will complete it (Harrias is awaiting the reviewed nomination's QPQ to complete his QPQ review), hook is acceptable length and content, and reliably sourced. JackTheVicar (talk) 21:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)


Elephantomyia pulchella

Elephantomyia pulchella male
Elephantomyia pulchella male
  • ... that when the crane fly Elephantomyia pulchella (pictured) was redescribed in 2015, one of the fossils was in a private collection?

Created by Kevmin (talk). Self-nominated at 14:31, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

2014 White House intrusion

Improved to Good Article status by Freikorp (talk). Self-nominated at 13:57, 19 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg GOOD TO GO: QPQ done, hook is adequately sourced to major newspapers and other reference, hook is of sufficient length and interest. JackTheVicar (talk) 20:48, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 20[edit]

Abdullah Pasha ibn Ali

  • ... that Abdullah Pasha had his mentor Haim Farhi killed during his first year as Acre's governor, a position only made possible by Farhi's lobbying efforts?

Created by Al Ameer son (talk). Self-nominated at 19:12, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Tanyus Shahin

Moved to mainspace by Al Ameer son (talk). Self-nominated at 19:06, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Beautiful Isle of Somewhere

"Beautiful Isle of Somewhere" performed on a 1908 recording by Harold Jarvis

Created by 78.26 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:30, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS. GTG. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Summa Grammatica

Friar Bacon in his study
Friar Bacon in his study

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 06:42, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Dorothy Hughes (architect)

Created by SusunW (talk). Self-nominated at 22:29, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Pick Me!

Created by Launchballer (talk). Self-nominated at 08:40, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

HTC One A9

Created by Ayub407 (talk). Nominated by SSTflyer (talk) at 07:37, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

H.A.T.E.U.

Improved to Good Article status by Calvin999 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:42, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Recently promoted to GA status, within policy, inline cited, hook is interesting and well cited. Just need another QPQ done to go, since your given QPQ needs another reviewer. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 02:25, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
  • It doesn't, I've struck my oppose.  — Calvin999 07:20, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Aries (album)

5x expanded by Magiciandude (talk) and Jaespinoza (talk). Nominated by Magiciandude (talk) at 17:58, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

Victor Langlois

Victor Langlois
Victor Langlois

Created by EtienneDolet (talk). Self-nominated at 17:56, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg New enough and long enough. QPQ checks. Image has appropriate licensing for the main page. Offline source accepted in good faith. Sources are either in French or German, or offline so I can't check for close paraphrasing. Looks good to go. Freikorp (talk) 11:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison

Typical senior housing of Roosevelt Park
Typical senior housing of Roosevelt Park
  • ... that Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison originated the concept and was the instigator for the plan of the first senior housing project in the United States (example houses pictured)?

Created by Doug Coldwell (talk) and 7&6=thirteen (talk} - nominated by User:Doug Coldwell at 12:24, 20 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol possible vote.svg The article is new enough and long enough, the hook is interesting and a QPQ review was performed. However, sourcing is an issue. The biographical details appear sourced from Find A Grave, a source that is generally not considered reliable. The material from Famous First Facts is taken largely verbatim from that book. At this point the article should not pass, but I am confident that the article could be updated to meet standards as long as it is updated with better sourcing and more work on wording the material from the appropriate sources. Alansohn (talk) 14:46, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
I'll work on that and see if I can solve the issues.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:13, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Let me know on my talk page if I can help with anything. The rewording of the material from FFF should be simple. Finding better sources about Morrison seems more challenging, but I will poke around for additional material. Alansohn (talk) 15:18, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
O.K. Thanks for help. Going to lunch for awhile. When I get back I will continue on the improvements.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 16:53, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
Doing some additional research now. I'll see what I can come up with.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 21:16, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

FYI, Earwig copy violation detector: Effie Maud Aldrich Morrison looks clear to me. 7&6=thirteen () 21:44, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

7&6=thirteen, the sentence "The federal government’s Works Progress Administration supplied $34,571 for the project." is taken verbatim from the item in Famous First Facts. The quote at the bottom of the article matches the text in my hard copy of FFF, which is not available online. A look at the rest of the quotation seems to be a close paraphrase issue. Can you take a more detailed look at the quotation at the bottom of the article and the text in the article and make a determination on a non-electronic basis? Alansohn (talk) 04:16, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Alansohn As you say, that's all part of an attributed quotation that appears in a footnote. In that sense, I would hope it would be an exact copy of the text. I don't see a close paraphrasing issue, since it is part of a quote. I was not (yet) doing a WP:DYK Review, but I could. Earwig was merely mentioned as a guidepost for further review. I'll look at the rest of the article, however. 7&6=thirteen () 11:13, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I reformatted the article to make it clear that this is a quotation.
At least one paragraph needs a citation, which I have marked. 7&6=thirteen () 11:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
@Alansohn: Done with rewording, citations and references. Is it good to go?--Doug Coldwell (talk) 15:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I see that Doug Coldwell totally eliminated the quote and the footnote. I think this is overkill, but ... 7&6=thirteen () 20:46, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
@Alansohn: I have continued to expand the article.--Doug Coldwell (talk) 22:29, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Symbol confirmed.svg Good to go. Thanks to both Doug Coldwell and 7&6=thirteen for expanding the article and addressing the issues raised. Kudos. Alansohn (talk) 22:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Articles created/expanded on October 21[edit]

Barmouth Bridge

Barmouth Bridge
Barmouth Bridge

Improved to Good Article status by Ritchie333 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:50, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Siren (Millennium)

Improved to Good Article status by Grapple X (talk). Self-nominated at 09:57, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Kenichi Marumo

  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henry Fox (cricketer)
  • Comment: This is mainly a translation from the corresponding Japanese article, but I have also expanded it a bit and added extra sources. As for the hook, the subject spent four years in the second-team "farm league", but only ever appeared in one first-team match. In that game he was used as a pinch runner and scored a run. He was then replaced with someone else before having a chance to field or bat himself. The technical term would be "despite never having a plate appearance", but I think "never holding a bat" sounds more "hooky". If it is too vague or misleading, I would love to hear other suggestions.

Created by Athomeinkobe (talk). Self-nominated at 06:42, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS, but I'm concerned that the hook makes it sound like he literally never held a baseball bat during his entire career. Perhaps ALT1: ... that Kenichi Marumo once scored a run for the Orix Buffaloes baseball team despite not appearing at the plate? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:15, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Wings for My Flight

  • Comment: First DYK nomination. Please let me know if I've missed any steps.

Improved to Good Article status by Mz7 (talk). Self-nominated at 00:50, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment: Not a review, but very nice job, Mz7. However, could the hook be reworded thus: ... that by the time of the events in Marcy Cottrell Houle's 1975 book Wings for My Flight, only 324 pairs of peregrine falcons resided in the United States? I read "that by the events" as "according to" rather than "by the time of," which I suspect is what is meant. LavaBaron (talk) 18:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Another Lonely Night (Adam Lambert song)

5x expanded by Tobyjamesaus (talk) and Launchballer (talk). Nominated by Launchballer (talk) at 00:24, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

2015 Giro d'Italia

Alberto Contador, winner of the 2015 Giro d'Italia
Alberto Contador, winner of the 2015 Giro d'Italia

Improved to Good Article status by Relentlessly (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 22:08, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Wujing Zongyao

The earliest known written description of the formula for gunpowder
The earliest known written description of the formula for gunpowder

* ... that the Chinese military compendium Wujing Zongyao from around 1040 to 1044 contains the earliest known written formulas for gunpowder (pictured)?

  • ... that the eleventh century Chinese military compendium Wujing Zongyao contains the earliest known written formulas for gunpowder (pictured)?

Improved to Good Article status by Khanate General (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:54, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment - the composition of the hook is a little difficult to digest. Could it be reworded "... that the eleventh century Chinese military compendium Wujing Zongyao contains the earliest known written formulas for gunpowder (pictured)? LavaBaron (talk) 17:44, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Thank you for suggesting better wording. I have changed the hook accordingly. Oceanh (talk) 19:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Obvious Child

  • ... that the romantic comedy film Obvious Child was praised for its portrayal of abortion?

Improved to Good Article status by 97198 (talk). Nominated by Oceanh (talk) at 19:32, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Recently promoted to GA status, well written, within policy, inline cited, hook fact is interesting enough, QPQ's done, so it's good to go. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 03:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

England cricket team Test results (1920–39)

  • Comment: QPQ pending

5x expanded by Harrias (talk). Self-nominated at 08:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Comment: This is not a review, but the way the hook is phrased right now, it sounds like England played one very long match between 1920 and 1939. Do you mean to say that the 1938 Ashes series was the largest margin of victory ever? If the answer is yes, then I would rewrite the hook to focus on that event. Best, -- Notecardforfree (talk) 22:50, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

Stephen Farrow

  • ... that police struggled to investigate double murderer Stephen Farrow, because of his nomadic lifestyle?

Created by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 05:36, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough and long enough. QPQ will be fine as long as you follow up being pinged there. The source placed at the end of the sentence in the article only backs up that "an anonymous phonecall from a woman in Kent had led to his arrest", it doesn't back up the first half of the sentence which asserts that tracking Farrow was difficult due to his nomadic lifestyle. Going to need an inline citation for that one. Freikorp (talk) 08:59, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
    • In the source, the inspector says "He was a drifter who had no ties to any particular area of the country which made him a difficult individual to investigate." Nonetheless, I have repeated the reference inline to clarify the matter '''tAD''' (talk) 10:27, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg QPQ followed up. Spot checks finds no signs of close paraphrasing. Now that you've pointed it out I don't think the double inline citation is necessary. As long as using the term 'nomadic lifestyle' is OK considering that that term doesn't appear in the source is fine this one is good to go. Freikorp (talk) 12:22, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Underworld: Next Generation

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 02:15, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Jewel Freeman Graham

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 00:52, 21 October 2015 (UTC).

Articles created/expanded on October 22[edit]

Wolf Run (Bowman Creek)

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 19:32, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

North Branch Bowman Creek

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 19:34, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

South Branch Bowman Creek

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 19:38, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Cherry Run (South Branch Bowman Creek)

Moved to mainspace by Jakec (talk). Self-nominated at 19:43, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Hygrophorus hypothejus

Hygrophorus hypothejus, Finland
Hygrophorus hypothejus, Finland

5x expanded by Casliber (talk). Self-nominated at 12:04, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Sufficiently expanded, meets core content policies. But the article says that its color becomes more intense at first frost, implying that it shows up before then. Perhaps one of these is hookier any anyway, playing on the notion that people will think that the "herald of the winter" is a mythological figure or something (needless to say, they'd do better without the picture):
  • ALT1: ... that the herald of the winter is highly slimy?
  • ALT2: ... that the herald of the winter is edible?
  • ALT2: ... that while the herald of the winter is edible, eating it is not recommended, as it is highly slimy? --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:02, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

DJ AM

Improved to Good Article status by Freikorp (talk). Self-nominated at 09:03, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Meets all DYK criteria. While some have questioned whether the Daily News is RS, I don't think there's any real debate insofar as entertainment news is concerned. ALT hook also checks out but the primary is good to go. (Admin Note: this is a non-QPQ review.) LavaBaron (talk) 17:39, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

American Pastoral (film)

  • ... that the American Pastoral is currently filming after a long development period?

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 03:11, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Mahmood Yakubu

  • ... that Mahmood Yakubu is the first and only Northern Nigerian with a first class degree certificate in History?

Created by OluwaCurtis (talk). Self-nominated at 09:25, 22 October 2015 (UTC).

Special occasion holding area[edit]

Do not nominate articles in this section—​nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
Note: Articles nominated for a special occasion should be nominated (i) within seven days of creation or expansion (as usual) and (ii) between five days and six weeks before the occasion, to give reviewers time to check the nomination. April Fools' Day is an exception to these requirements; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.

(Occcasion for which work was written)

October 31 (Halloween)[edit]

The Apparition of Mrs. Veal

Portrait of Daniel Defoe
Portrait of Daniel Defoe

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 21:27, 17 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg New enough, long enough, meets core content policies. Hook cited to RS. GTG. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 12:45, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Metal corset

Iron corset engraved in 1893 by Saint-Elme Gautier
Iron corset engraved in 1893 by Saint-Elme Gautier

5x expanded by Mabalu (talk). Self-nominated at 18:36, 30 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg 5x expansion checks due to copyrighted text being removed. Spot-checks finds no close paraphrasing or copyright violations. Online source checks; offline sources accepted in good faith. Image has appropriate licensing. I think your wikilink to Catherine de' Medici should encompass "dominant 16th-century queen", rather than just "queen", but up to you and the closer. Good to go. Freikorp (talk) 12:09, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for reviewing so quickly - wasn't expecting it to be done before I'd done my review! (which is done and added above). Mabalu (talk) 13:58, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Also done the expanded wikilink thing, as I'm fine with that. Maybe this could be a Halloween hook as metal corsets do look like torture devices...! Mabalu (talk) 14:24, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Henry Buehman

Herny Buehman
Herny Buehman
  • ... that photographer Henry Buehman (pictured) advertised his services as a dentist?

Created by Allen3 (talk). Self-nominated at 03:17, 16 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Excellent article. New enough, obviously long enough. Sourcing is fine and the images are all PD. Let's use ALT1 for Halloween - it's striking and reliably sourced. Prioryman (talk) 21:06, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Treehouse of Horror XXV

Improved to Good Article status by The Almightey Drill (talk). Self-nominated at 17:18, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

  • I moved this to the Halloween special holding area. I don't know if this hook will work or not for Halloween, I'll let the reviewer decide that.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 01:29, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Moved back to noms area pending review and approval. Yoninah (talk) 02:16, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • I've relisted it in the holding area - we need to keep the Halloween hooks together. There's no harm in listing it twice. Prioryman (talk) 12:46, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • And for the benefit of promoters, this is intended for Halloween - don't run it before then. Prioryman (talk) 12:48, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article was promoted to GA within the nomination time frame, and is definitely long enough. No copyvios, NPOV, or other policy issues. QPQ provided. Approving for the original hook, unless someone volunteers something they think is more fitting for Halloween.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 21:47, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Resident Evil: The Final Chapter

Moved to mainspace by Captain Assassin! (talk). Self-nominated at 17:06, 26 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg Long enough; new enough; no copyvio, close paraphrasing etc., now that the plot has been deleted; QPQ done; hook needs rewording or another hook suggesting though as whatever the directors' intentions we can't know this will be the last film in the series; there's nothing studios like more than milking every last drop out of some withered old cow of a franchise. Belle (talk) 22:56, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
  • I suggest that we save this one for Halloween. I've added it to the holding area on WP:DYKN. Prioryman (talk) 11:19, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Regarding the hook, how about this? Prioryman (talk) 15:48, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
  • If you want to save it for Halloween, then save it. Otherwise ALT1 looks good to go. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 01:50, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Francis Doughty (clergyman)

Created by StAnselm (talk). Self-nominated at 02:58, 10 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Long enough, new enough, and hook is cited to RS. Good to go. LavaBaron (talk) 10:17, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol question.svg @LavaBaron: What about all the other DYK criteria? As a courtesy to the nominator, could you please list, so this stands a better chance of not being pulled from prep on something missed? — Maile (talk) 23:17, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
Symbol confirmed.svg Yup, it met all of them. Good to go. LavaBaron (talk) 07:59, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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  • Symbol confirmed.svg As per administrator ruling here, it's been determined no further review is needed. This is cleared for queue. LavaBaron (talk) 04:07, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Werewolves of Ossory

Depiction of the werewolves of Ossory
Depiction of the werewolves of Ossory
  • ... that the legendary werewolves of Ossory (pictured) were said to have founded a dynasty of Irish kings?

Created by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 21:01, 9 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol question.svg New enough, long enough, image checks out. The problem is with the hook, which says "founded a dynasty of Irish kings". However, the (main body) of the article says that the werewolf Laignech Fàelad was a brother of kings - i.e. not an ancestor. Now, I see the "ancestor of kings" is in the cited source (Sconduto, p. 34), but that doesn't seem to be "ancestor" in the strict sense. Would you be able to explain this a bit more (i.e. to me here, but possibly also in the article)? StAnselm (talk) 02:46, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
  • The main body of the article does call him an ancestor - "He was said to be the brother of Feradach mac Duach, the king of Ossory, and the ancestor of its subsequent kings who ruled until being deposed by the Normans." Sconduto, and also John Carey in 'Werewolves in Ireland', Cambrian Medieval Celtic Studies 44 (Winter 2002) 37–72, both state explicitly that Laignech Fàelad was "ancestor of [Ossory's] kings thereafter" (as Carey puts it). They don't explain how this came about so I've not expanded on it further as it would be original research on my part, but the most likely answer is that Laignech Fàelad's kingly brother died childless and the throne was inherited by one of Laignech Fàelad's children. Prioryman (talk) 07:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Yes, I can understand not wanting to OR, but for DYK we really need to get to the bottom of this. I see the Cóir Anmann text here: it doesn't seem to say anything about kings, and so I question the second sentence in the "Laignech Fàelad" section. The Sconduto source has a footnote for the "ancestor of its future kings" sentence, but it doesn't seem to be visible on Google Books. StAnselm (talk) 08:40, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
It's not from the Cóir Anmann but from another work - De Ingantaib Érenn, specifically the manuscript held by Trinity College Dublin, according to Carey. I've made the attribution clearer in the article. Prioryman (talk) 09:19, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
Is there any reason the Carey source isn't in the article, by the way? And do you have access to a translation of De Ingantaib Érenn? I'd like to know what it actually says, because all that I see in Sconduto is that De Ingantaib Érenn talks about Laignech Fàelad being an ancestor of a line of werewolves. (It sounds a lot like the brothers Elrond and Elros, by the way...) Anyway, I can't help feeling Sconduto is misreading Carey. StAnselm (talk) 19:10, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
The misreading is mine, I'm afraid - I had thought Carey was referring to De Ingantaib Érenn but on a second reading it's clear that he is referring to other genealogies. The exact line I'm citing is on page 57 and reads: "This Laignech Faelad is in fact a figure of considerable dynastic importance. The genealogies portray him not only as the brother of Feradach mac Duach, a king of Ossory who died in 583 or 584, but as ancestor of its kings thereafter." I've added a reference to this in the article. The genealogies in question are discussed on this page, which usefully has a copy of what they say along with a geneaological table (see table 1). Prioryman (talk) 20:36, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
OK, thank you. I think we're getting close to a resolution here. I had seen that genealogical page already, and had noted that it doesn't mention werewolves. But it seems that we have some sources saying that Laignech is a werewolf, and some sources saying that he is an ancestor of kings. However, we don't seem to have any primary source that conflates the too - it is something that Carey has noticed. This is definitely worth including in the article, and in the DYK hook, but we have to be careful of wording. Maybe something like, "He was said in some sources to be the ancestor of a tribe of werewolves, and in others to be an ancestor of the kings of Ossory." What do you think? StAnselm (talk) 21:27, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure that's entirely accurate. Sconduto writes that De Ingantaib Érenn says that the werewolves were "descendants of Laigne[ch] Faelad in Ossory" (page 34). Unfortunately I can't find a translation or transcript of that work online. Basically, we have three facts (or rather claims) from different sources: that Laignech Faelad was the brother of the king of Ossory (according to the genealogies), that he was a werewolf (according to Cóir Anmann), and that he was the ancestor of the werewolves of Ossory (according to De Ingantaib Érenn). So perhaps a viable alternative hook might be something like the following? Prioryman (talk) 12:22, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT 1: ... that the werewolves of Ossory (pictured) were said to be descended from a werewolf who was the brother of an Irish king?
Symbol confirmed.svg Yes, I would be happy with that. StAnselm (talk) 18:23, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Mein Herze schwimmt im Blut, BWV 199

Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 20:49, 4 October 2015 (UTC).

  • I'd quite like to save this for Halloween as part of a Halloween-themed set, with a new hook (see below). Would you be OK with this? I'll see if I can find an appropriate heart-themed photo to go with it. Prioryman (talk) 15:31, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Tempting idea, but as far as I understand we have to be factually correct. We don't know about the first audience. We know that a Weimar audience heard it (possibly in 1715 but not sure, could be 1716, could have been the first but we don't know), only then a Leipzig audience (1723). Please rephrase as ALT2, perhaps using also "a monster [in God's eyes]". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:39, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  • OK, how about the following then, with the image on the right? Prioryman (talk) 06:53, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that Bach's My heart swims in blood (heart pictured) is about the redemption of a "monster"?
  • I think better no image ;) - unless you have one of a swimming heart. Leave room for imagination. Do we have to mantion Bach?
  • ALT3: ... that a "monster" confessed dramatically: "My heart swims in blood"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Much better than my suggestion! Nice one. Now let's review the article: it was granted GA status on the nomination date, so no problem there. Clearly long enough and within policy, with a good assortment of reliable sources. ALT3 is interesting and sourced, and a QPQ review has been done. This should be fine to run now. Prioryman (talk) 15:35, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Zombi 2[edit]

  • ... that Lucio Fulci's 1979 film Zombi 2 has been released under eleven different titles?

Improved to Good Article status by Grapple X (talk). Self-nominated at 09:26, 22 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Recently promoted to GA, well written, within policy, hook is interesting and there are eleven titles mention in the "Release" section including the original title. QPQ is done too, so good to go. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 10:11, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Just to note that we'd like to save this for Halloween for a day of spooky hooks (see WT:DYK#Halloween hooks?. If you'd prefer not to do this, please do say. Prioryman (talk) 22:12, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
    Absolutely no objection to this, I had already suggested it on the talk page. GRAPPLE X 08:09, 30 September 2015 (UTC)


Modern Vampires of the City

Improved to Good Article status by Dan56 (talk). Nominated by Sovereign Sentinel (talk) at 11:53, 7 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol redirect vote 4.svg Length and nom date check out. No copyvios or other policy violations. Content is fine. The hook is okay, but I think I thought of one that is more interesting, and would fit more with a Halloween theme:

ALT 1 ... that Modern Vampires of the City was called "a deeply God-haunted work"?

This article is good to go once the above hook is approved.--3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 19:29, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

  • Symbol confirmed.svg The ALT1 hook is satisfactory and the other DYK criteria are met, so this is good to go. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:01, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Just a note to say that we're looking at running this hook on Halloween, as the subject matter lends itself well to the date. See WT:DYK#Halloween hooks? for more info. Prioryman (talk) 15:42, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Tufted ground squirrel

Rheithrosciurus macrotis
Rheithrosciurus macrotis
  • ... that the "vampire squirrel" of Borneo (pictured), which is reputed to eat the livers and hearts of chickens and deer, has the largest known tail to body size ratio of any mammal?

5x expanded by Prioryman (talk). Self-nominated at 09:26, 7 September 2015 (UTC).

  • The source for "the largest known tail to body size ratio" says "one of the largest" and is from the Washington Post not a scientific publication; I'm not saying it isn't true but you need better sourcing for such a bold claim. The "vampire squirrel" is also a bit tabloidesque; it's hooky but doesn't really rate inclusion in the same sentence as the observed feeding habits; I'll be back later, I'm going to rub a toad on my lips; I think that summons a prince, or is it cures warts?; gives you warts?!?? Oh great. Belle (talk) 17:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
  • I've added an extra reference for the tail from Science magazine, though it doesn't say anything different to the WaPo. It also refers to the squirrel as a vampire; I would hope you don't consider Science to be a tabloid! The inclusion of the alleged vampirism in conjunction with the observed feeding habits is a deliberate bit of debunking. As virtually all of the recently published sources about the squirrel refer to vampirism, I thought it would be important to state up front exactly what is known about its feeding habits. I think using the vampire description in the hook is eminently justifiable as a means of making it more interesting (it seems to have made you look, so it evidently works). But be careful what you do with toads; you can also get high on them... Prioryman (talk) 11:53, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Symbol confirmed.svg Actually it was the picture that hooked me, not the threat of a squirrel making me its vampire bride. Long enough, new enough, neutral (even if I think the vampire rumours get too much coverage); no copyphrasing or close vio; pic is free to use and intriguing if a bit conservative on the tail; hook fact cited; good to go. Belle (talk) 14:30, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
  • A note for promoters - this article is being saved for Halloween - don't run it before then. Prioryman (talk) 12:49, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Demon core

Improved to Good Article status by Hawkeye7 (talk). Self-nominated at 22:34, 27 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol voting keep.svg Long enough; newly GA'ed enough; neutral (unbiased that is, not inert); hook fine and cited (though I'd drop "plutonium" to make it more intriguing; I'm "prepassing" that altered hook too); no copyvio or any of that nasty stuff in the sources I could examine; QPQ done. Non-DYK points: please explain what a "pit" is; try to substitute another word for "gadgets"; are "cataracts" really an aggravating factor for a myocardial infarction? Please make a note of why the 1978 end date is given for Theodore Perlman being "still alive" (I guess this is the last time a study was made?). Good to go. Belle (talk) 02:07, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
    Thanks for that. I have switched to the proposed hook. "Pit" is another word for "core"; I have switched to using "core" consistently throughout. "Gadget" is Los Alamos-speak for what a layman might call an "atomic bomb"; I have switched to using "bomb" instead. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:06, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
    I have a "gadget" in my car for opening the gates at the end of the drive; I think I'll take my bike. Belle (talk) 10:39, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Just to note that we'd like to save this for Halloween for a day of spooky hooks (see WT:DYK#Halloween hooks?. If you'd prefer not to do this, please do say. Prioryman (talk) 21:32, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
    • Sounds like a great idea to me. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:15, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Cooloola monster

5x expanded by Cwmhiraeth (talk). Self-nominated at 05:48, 21 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg Article length is fine and posted by due date. Hook is interesting, referenced and verified. Text is neutral and no copy vio noted. QPQ done. Good to go.Nvvchar. 07:20, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
  • This may work well as an April Fools hook. sstflyer 10:21, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
  • April Fools Day is too far away. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:44, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
  • How is that a problem? sstflyer 08:47, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
  • I think the policy is to limit retention of hooks to a six weeks maximum period. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:36, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
  • Up to you, but the article need only have been created/expanded/brought to GA in the year immediately preceding the April 1 on which it will appear. They've already started posting next year's hooks at Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know. — Maile (talk) 21:20, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
@Maile66: I would prefer to run the hook now while the article is fresh. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:49, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
How about running this on Halloween as part of a set of DYKs specifically for that day? See the proposal at WT:DYK#Halloween hooks?. Prioryman (talk) 11:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
That's OK with me. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 18:18, 29 September 2015 (UTC)

Lawrence Joseph Bader


Created/expanded by Inkwell765 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:29, 9 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This article is new enough and long enough. I have struck ALT1 because it is unclear whether he was an amnesia victim or a hoaxer. The original hook has an inline citation which does not work for me (error 404). However the other sources fully support the hook. The article is neutral, interesting, and free from copyright issues as far as I can see. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:22, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Just a note to say that we're looking at running this hook on Halloween, as the subject matter lends itself well to the date. See WT:DYK#Halloween hooks? for more info. Prioryman (talk) 15:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

November 2 (All souls' day)[edit]

Cantique de Jean Racine (Fauré)

Fauré in uniform of l'Ecole Niedermeyer, Paris
Fauré in uniform of l'Ecole Niedermeyer, Paris
  • ... that Gabriel Fauré's Cantique de Jean Racine is often performed with his Requiem although he composed it much earlier as a student (pictured in school uniform)?

5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 12:47, 30 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg God, I love this piece. I'm glad you expanded it. The hook is reliably cited. It's expanded enough. No paraphrasing issues. The photograph is definitely PD. We're good to go. By the way, if you want to have this go up on November 2, you should refer to the special occasion holdings down bellow. They'll help you out with that. Good work! C'est magnifique! Étienne Dolet (talk) 17:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

November 10 or 11 (Kosherfest)[edit]

Kosherfest

  • ... that Kosherfest, an annual trade fair for the kosher-certified food industry, has been called "a cross between a professional trade show and the buffet line at your cousin's bar mitzva"?

Created by Yoninah (talk). Self-nominated at 23:56, 12 October 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg size and age ok, article written neutrally, Earwig's copyvio negative. Hook referenced and faithful to source material. Good to go. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:14, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
  • That was fast! Thank you for the review and copyediting of the article. Yoninah (talk) 00:26, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

November 26th (Thanksgiving (United States))[edit]

Jauchzet Gott in allen Landen, BWV 51

Gottfried Reiche
Gottfried Reiche
  • Reviewed: Violated Paradise
  • Comment: suitable for a joyful occasion such as a Thanksgiving day

Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 12:22, 6 October 2015 (UTC).

A Very Gaga Thanksgiving

Improved to Good Article status by IndianBio (talk). Nominated by Sovereign Sentinel (talk) at 17:00, 5 September 2015 (UTC).

  • Symbol confirmed.svg This newly promoted GA is new enough and long enough. Either hook could be used as both are sourced inline. The article is neutral and free from close paraphrasing, as far as I can see from my spot checks. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:19, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Are we saving this hook for use on MainPage during the Thanksgiving Holiday? --PFHLai (talk) 21:03, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
  • No. (I went through WP:CHU a month ago) sst 10:04, 11 October 2015 (UTC)