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Redirect[edit]

I thought this was a little easer to use than Template:ODP.

Streamlined version[edit]

I've switched this back to the cleaner version for several reasons. First, the use of italics and the preposition "on" are both nonstandard. See Wikipedia:Template messages/Links#External links for other examples. Italics are generally reserved for names of books, films, etc., and the uses of this template are much broader. It also removes the Google Directory links, mainly because it's a duplication that will most likely serve to confuse readers, but also because it's only one of many commercial uses of the data, and because it's often months out of date. - EurekaLott 18:45, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

TFD[edit]

  • By which I mean that this template has been proposed for deletion. Since it's heavily in use, it's probably better to have the notice here. The debate is leaning strongly towards 'keep'. (Radiant) 01:47, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
TfD closed as keep. I have removed the notice. RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 07:02, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

suggest URL[edit]

See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3ADmoz&diff=84034954&oldid=83847357

Now "suggest" page is up, please, add the link back.

With respect, nejron 09:00, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

So that is the purpose of that part of the code. ;)) Activated on Croatian wiki (even though it is of little use). --Ivan Bajlo 11:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
I originally put that in there, but I'm uncertain as to whether it would be a good idea. The template is protected so an Admin would have to do it in any case. —Wrathchild (talk) 03:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Please get rid of the Suggest a site link to the dmoz template; it doesn't belong on Wiki and isn't appropriate. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:54, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Sandy. The suggest site link does not improve the quality of the wikipedia article in any way - in fact it degrades the quality by increasing the clutter. I can see why one would want to help other community projects, but this is not what wikipedia is for. Could this link please be removed. Conrad.Irwin 11:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I originally put that in the template not to help ODP but to make it easier for people who would otherwise list their link in the Wikipedia article to find a spot where it would be more appropriate. But, as I said above, I have misgivings about it and I agree that it should be removed. —Wrathchild (talk) 14:31, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I've reduced "(suggest site)" to (+). Would that be more helpful in streamlining it or does the ambiguity of the + sign defeat the purpose of the submission URL in the template to begin with? By the way, I've dropped the template's protection down to semi now. --  Netsnipe  ►  15:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the (+), because although I see the reasoning behind it, it is now not immediately clear what it is for. I have left the link in a comment so people who dont know how dmoz works can add it back if that is the reached consensus. Conrad.Irwin 21:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

One parameter[edit]

I sugges use the If parser so the user could only utilize one parameter (i.e. WiFi for the Path To Category and the Category Name, instead of repeat the same parameter twice). --HybridBoy 05:53, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think that this would be as useful as the current feature of using the article name as the second option, should the second option be blank. Conrad.Irwin 16:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Volume[edit]

This is used in about 2000 mainspace articles.--SallyForth123 22:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Slash[edit]

The instructions say to include the terminal slash on the DMOZ directory path, but currently this breaks the external link. --Una Smith (talk) 23:43, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Broken Links?[edit]

I tried using this template for Buddhist art and Fingerboarding and it brought back broken links.

Not sure what I am doing wrong. --Legionarius (talk) 15:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

The template works for me. Try using {{dmoz|Society/Religion_and_Spirituality/Buddhism/Art|Buddhist Art}}. That should generate Buddhist Art at DMOZ

However, I had to edit the template to get rid of the Russian that followed your link. That was added by a robot recently and seems to have garbled the template... --Orlady (talk) 20:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC) Thanks! (or Spazeeba!)--Legionarius (talk) 07:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Updating this template[edit]

I've been reviewing the template and its history, and I'd like to offer a few suggestions.

First, the order of the parameter listings is odd. The first entry should specify what type of link we're creating (eg - category view, user profile, or search results), the second should specify the path or link at dmoz, and the third the text to display on links in the Wikipedia article. Since the latter is optional, it could be disregarded if need be. Currently, the template examines the third parameter to determine what function to perform, so the template expects three parameters irrespective of use, implying the need to specify a parameter that should be optional.

Better yet, we should use named parameters to do away with any possible confusion and make the template (reasonably) future-proof.

My last suggestion is to incorporate a search results link. I did this in June, but my edit was reverted without explanation.

If these changes are made, a bot may have to update all links to this template. Thoughts? Mindmatrix 21:34, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I love your suggestion to add a search capability to this template. However, there is apparently some sentiment against dmoz search templates as is revealed in WT:EL#DMOZ_Template.28s.29. It has actually been proposed there that dmoz2 should be deleted. I have given an argument and example there of when it can be better for WP to use dmoz search than dmoz category. Qazin (talk) 03:11, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
To develop a consensus on the question of the dmoz search capability in this template, what do you think about nominating dmoz2 for deletion? If there is a consensus to keep dmoz2, then it seems unlikely anyone can object to merging dmoz2 into dmoz. If it fails, then at least the issue will be resolved. Qazin (talk) 03:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
I have proposed a need for clarification of WP:ELNO item 9 regarding search results linking at WT:EL#Links_to_search_results. Qazin (talk) 05:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Dmoz2[edit]

Template:Dmoz2 has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. NOTE: This notice is NOT for this template, but is provided here because of its similarity to this template and potentially common interest with this template's editors and users. Qazin (talk) 22:37, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Trailing slash[edit]

This template has a bug. If it is used with a url that provides a trailing slash (lke this: Feed Readers at DMOZ), the link fails (at least in Firefox). If it is used with a url that does NOT provide a trailing slash (like this: Feed Readers at DMOZ), the link works. However, if the same url that is the result (like this: Feed Readers) is accessed, Dmoz itself appends the trailing slash. In other words, both urls with and without a trailing slash work fine directly on Dmoz, but this template adds a second trailing slash in some cases, and that fails.

For whatever reason, I can not edit this template to remove the unneeded trailing slash, but someone should. EAE (Holla!) 10:57, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Actually it would be best to make the template remove a trailing slash from the original, and always add a new one. Creating links that result in a redirect is not goos style. I have no odea how it works, but the german template [1] does indeed work. So if a specialist is coming around, feel free to fix it :-) --Windharp (talk) 15:25, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Whichever is easiest. It does need to be fixed one way or the other though. If you can edit this template, it's probably best to fix it with a hack (although removing an unnecessary slash is hardly a hack) for now and wait until someone who knows how the german template works comes along and fixes it properly. EAE (Holla!) 06:23, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't see how #rel2abs (used in the German template) can do that. Any comments from parser function experts? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Anyone have some extreme test data: I think that changing the phrase:
http://www.dmoz.org/{{{1}}}/
to
http://{{#rel2abs:www.dmoz.org/{{{1}}}}}/
should rationalize the final "/" the same way the German template does, but I'm not sure why it works or if it would break something else. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:36, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

embedded [ and ][edit]

Doesn't work for category names which include an embedded [], such as US Representatives. Flatterworld (talk) 20:15, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't think having square brackets in a dmoz category name is best practise, and additionally to maybe fixing the template, I'd like to check if the category shouldn't be renamed. I was not able to spot an example, though. DMOZ Search for representatives did not yield any results with a square bracket, can you provide an example? -- Windharp (talk) 15:30, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't recall brackets being allowed in DMOZ category names. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 16:18, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
I looked at Flatterworld's edit history and I think this is what he or she meant: Walt Minnick at DMOZ. However, there was an extra d following the percent-5d in the link they removed with this edit, so I guess what I'm saying is, brackets are allowed, and they work, so everyone is wrong :) EAE (Holla!) 06:20, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
I see the problem, then. Perhaps an escape template could be constructed so that {{DMOZ escape|Regional/North America/United States/Idaho/Government/US House of Representatives/Walt Minnick [D-1]}} would translate to Regional/North_America/United_States/Idaho/Government/US_House_of_Representatives/Walt_Minnick_%5bD-1%5d. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 15:12, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
EAE apparently doesn't understand the difference between a bracket and its code. I just tried to fix the redirected link at Rahm Emanuel and see no one has yet fixed the template to allow for actual brackets, which means cut-and-paste still doesn't work. I replaced the brackets with the %5b and %5d coding for now, but it's not at all user-friendly. Perhaps it would be better to just delete all such Dmoz links if no one's interested in fixing the problem. Flatterworld (talk) 17:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Editprotected request involving this template[edit]

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Requested edit[edit]

Please help Dmoz/ODP hasn't had profiles for years. I would like to request that someone remove this functionality from the template. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 01:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Crystal Clear action edit remove.png Removed — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
DMOZ/ODP has always had profiles, only the links changed some time ago with the new DMOZ 2.0 software. In the interest of established users of this template I think this should be reverted and the link adjusted. New links are in the form http://www.dmoz.org/public/profile?editor=windharp (Notifying MSGJ) -- Windharp (talk) 17:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
Fixed, with apologies if I'm considered "involved". — Arthur Rubin (talk) 06:06, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Good, request marked as resolved. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:32, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Revert last edit (edit request)[edit]

Please, revert last edit. I think a lot of people do not know what DMOZ is - at least I did not knew. It hasnt been discussed and non-trivial edits should not be made to fully protected templates (template editor protected)... Christian75 (talk) 08:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

@Christian75: Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Have you asked Koavf (talk · contribs) why this was done; have you asked them to self-revert? --Redrose64 (talk) 12:28, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
I can ask Koavf here ... Christian75 (talk) 12:39, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
@Christian75: Per DMOZ/Open Directory Project. The former name is more popular and has been around longer, so if anything, you're more likely to recognize it. —Justin (koavf)TCM 14:09, 10 April 2014 (UTC)