Template talk:Highest Military Ranks
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|This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Highest Military Ranks template.
Rank or not.
- Caudillo is not a military rank
- Generalissimo is or was not solely used in Italy, as the template now suggests
- Führer is not a military rank but denotes a "leader". In cases of Hitler, the most well known Führer, he was had of state AND "Oberbefehlshaber" as separate entities, according to the German constitution.
- Marshal of Yugoslavia is an exclusive Yugoslav entity, not something "South Slavic" (what is that anyway?).
- Field marshal (Serbia and Yugoslavia), Serbia and Yugoslav, not something "South Slavic"
- Admiralissimo is or was not solely used in Italy, as the template now suggests
I fear that there are many more mistakes in the template and I suggest a radical revert to this version. 15:17, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
- Oppose I realize that there are some mistakes but you essentially want to remove all the work because you see some mistakes?
- No, *Treker, not because of "some mistakes". I see a load of mistakes and an editor who is confusing job titles with military ranks. The template is by now unreliable in my opinion. 09:33, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
- Comment. Mixes civilians who are C-in-C merely by virtue of their elected position and military officers who have actually reached their ranks properly. Omits many ranks (why list Admiral of the Fleet for Britain, but not Field Marshal or Marshal of the RAF, which are entirely equivalent?). No problem with doing it by country, but it should stick to actual military ranks. I agree it shouldn't just be reverted, but it needs a major rewrite. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:26, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
- I agree with the proposal to revert and start anew. The mistakes are rather numerous ("Ottomanian"?, "Autokrator" as a Byzantine military rank? the literary Arthurian "dux bellorum" as an actual Roman rank? "Hetman", "Marshal of Yugoslavia", "Voivoda/Battle Warlord", as French ranks?), not to mention all the essentially political offices that are emphatically not military ranks. Perhaps it would make more sense to structure the ranks differently, by distinguish ranks that essentially mean "commander in chief", e.g. generalissimo, polemarch, constable of france, etc, from merely "highest ranks", which could be held by multiple people at the same time, like "marshal" and its equivalents. Certainly right now it is a jumble of different concepts and terms. Constantine ✍ 15:57, 7 September 2016 (UTC)