Template talk:Infobox Chinese-language singer and actor

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Template created[edit]

I created this template because many in the Chinese entertainment industry are popular both as actors and as singers, and this template offers information for both an acting and a singing career. I also felt that Template:Infobox actor is geared toward western actors because of its deference to western film awards.

This template also has fields for a Chinese name, in both Traditional or Simplified, and a field for family ancestry.

I only added five specific awards in the template because that's the only ones I could think of off the top of my head. Please add other prominent awards in the Chinese entertanment industry to the template if you can think of them. Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

requested move[edit]

The discussion to revert User:Certified.Gangsta's move from Template:Infobox Chinese actor and singer to Template:Infobox Chinese, Taiwanese, Singaporean, Malaysian actor and singer back to Template:Infobox Chinese actor and singer is at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chinese-language_entertainment#infobox_rename (talk) 09:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

adding Golden Bell Awards[edit]

I would like to propose adding Taiwanese Golden Bell Awards for TV production to this template but I am not sure how to do it. So if anyone can help it would be much appreciated. --Michaela den (talk) 12:07, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Asian Television Award —Preceding unsigned comment added by Naiveandsilly (talkcontribs) 07:53, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Request to remove "ancestry" field[edit]

I don't think this field should appear in the infobox for a number of reasons. #1 it confuses western readers. #2 it has a patrilineal bias, which is not inline with WIKI goals. #3 in many cases it is hard to determine, especially considering 20th century Asia was very chaotic with much migration taking place. If it's important, familial information can be included in the main text, e.g. "XXX's father is from XXX, mother is from XXX, paternal grandfather" etc. Timmyshin (talk) 20:34, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

5 months and no response, pinging all non-bot editors of the template that are still active in 2015: User:Dabao qian, User:Huangdan2060, User:AjaxSmack, User:Kanguole, User:Zyxw, User:Gadget850, User:Frietjes, User:Toccata quarta, User:WOSlinker, User:Shrigley, User:Plastikspork, User:WOSlinker, User:AGK, User:Wdchk, User:Leeheonjin, User:Vilnisr, User:Soangry, User:Michaela den, User:Hintha, User:Materialscientist, User:Naiveandsilly, User:John of Reading, User:HJ Mitchell, User:HongQiGong, User:Thumperward, User:Rjanag, User:Tjmoel, User:PC78, User:Pigsonthewing, User:Gnowxilef, User:Kiteinthewind, User:MisfitToys, User:Ms2ger, User:Kwamikagami, User:J JMesserly, User:Esprit15d, User:Arsonal, sorry if I missed anybody. Timmyshin (talk) 01:18, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

No objection. — kwami (talk) 01:21, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Timmyshin: Thanks for advertising this discussion. I reject your rationale #1 (there is a link to ancestral home (Chinese) for confused "Westerners"), rationale #2 (it is not Wikipedia's "goal" to "correct" the importance Chinese place on patrilineal ancestry) and rationale #3 (the field can be left blank if the subject's hometown is unknown). However, you correctly note that "if it's important, [it] can be included in the main text", so if others are in favor, go ahead and remove it from the infobox. —  AjaxSmack  03:19, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Just because an infobox field exists, it doesn't mean that it has to be filled in. Information in ancestry should be sourced, and if sourced, it is valid information that can be placed in the infobox. If the information is not available or unsourced, it should not be in the article in the first place. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 12:02, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello Timmyshin! In my case, I agree with AjaxSmack. Nevertheless, let's just leave these infoboxes as is, as long as the persons tagged in such infobox are properly sourced, then there should be no big deal about it. Plus, it's a trend in Asia that there are some non-Chinese singers and actors who work in the Chinese-language industry. :) - 16:25, 7 October 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leeheonjin (talkcontribs)
I have no view (and probably need not have been pinged, as my only contributions have been administrative actions). Thanks, AGK [•] 09:14, 12 October 2015 (UTC)