Template talk:Infobox aircraft occurrence

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Adding SKYbrary as a parameter?[edit]

I propose adding a link to the SKYbrary site as a parameter in the infobox. There are other sites with this information (in fact the last year it was proposed to add the ASN entry but no consesus was reached), but SKYbrary was created by EUROCONTROL, ICAO, and the Flight Safety Foundation, so can be considered representative information. Currently some articles use the Template:SKYbrary A&SI, so the approach could be the same (tile page, and incident type). Thanks for any feedback! —surueña 06:59, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Not sure it needs to be in the infobox, if SKYbrary has content that adds to the article as you said a template is available to add to the bottom of the article. MilborneOne (talk) 12:09, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Injuries and fatalities[edit]

Why does the number injured come before the number of fatalities? It's usual to report the number of fatalities first, and secondly the number of injured. At 2015 Shoreham Airshow crash, for example, it seems very odd to have the number of fatalities beneath the number injured. Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:22, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

I think that is a point of view. Richard 08:12, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
Umm... yes, but it is the usual point of view. What is your point? Most incidents say "there were X people killed, and Y people injured". They do not say "there were X people injured, and Y people killed". So, the infobox does not accord with usual practice. Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't think here was any logic in the order so I don't have a problem with it being tweaked. MilborneOne (talk) 11:44, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Ghmyrtle has got a fair point. The number of fatalities is also a more important parameter to determine the notability of an accident in the first place. The guidelines for inclusion of accidents and incidents into aviation articles cite human loss of life as first criterion. --Deeday-UK (talk) 11:48, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
If you are going to rearrange, I think swapping just these two would be best (as suggested), leaving the order fatalities - injuries - missing - survivors. Richard 08:22, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

Infobox image size[edit]

Per WP:IMGSIZE, we should respect a user's preference to any size. Mine is "400px". Instead of "260px", "upright=#.##" should be used, like Template:infobox television. --George Ho (talk) 17:03, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Alakzi (talk) 20:21, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Does a similar change also need to be done for the plane1_image, plane2_image, and plane3_image parameters? They seem to hard wire to a default 180px. Maybe we should just introduce 'image_upright' (already done), plane1_image_upright, plane2_image_upright, and plane3_image_upright to finish it out, defaulting to '1'? If done that way, I'll fix up the TemplateData documentation and deprecate image_size, to reflect it. Skybunny (talk) 05:22, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Could I suggest you make your proposed changes to Template:Infobox aircraft occurrence/sandbox and do some testing to make sure everything is working as intended? Please reactivate this request when ready — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:52, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_aircraft_occurrence/sandbox&oldid=728382132 looks good from here. It uses plane1/2/3_/image_upright when available (defaulting to 1), and falls back to image_size if not explicitly declared, and falls back to defaults if neither are. I tested around with this a bit with Tenerife airport disaster (multiple aircraft) and American Airlines Flight 11 (a single aircraft) and both seem to accept these parameters in a rational way, but feel free to check my work. If and when this IS implemented, the docs should be updated to indicate the presence of the 'upright' parameters. If included explicitly in the documentation at all, image_size should be shown as deprecated or discouraged. Skybunny (talk) 01:38, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
@Skybunny: please update the docs — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:35, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
@MSGJ: done! Please have a look. Skybunny (talk) 14:31, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
Turns out I made a small error in the ImageInfobox template transclusions. It makes the captions for plane1/2/3 not display as it should. (The overall 'image' at the top of the infobox does and always has worked; it's the individual aircraft ones that have issues. Docs already assume this works as the fix suggests.) The fix is three lines, and is here, tested in the sandbox. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_aircraft_occurrence/sandbox&oldid=728623702 Can this version be deployed live, please? Thanks - Skybunny (talk) 15:18, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
Looked at testcases section 5, and see what you mean. Change looks fine, synced. — Andy W. (talk ·ctb) 15:33, 6 July 2016 (UTC)