Template talk:Infobox historic subdivision

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I'm not sure i like the way the coats of arms are evicting the maps to outside the infobox. Should we have a further parameter for the use of the map? (maybe an 'image' parameter to do things the old way and also 'map' and 'arms' parameters?) Morwen - Talk 09:57, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

As the person who's been doing a share of the evicting, I would agree. Having the CoA or maps floating around the article is messy. I think the problem mainly occurs with districts created in the 1970s and subsequently abolished, unless someone plans on drawing hundreds and hundreds of maps... Lozleader 15:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
I've added an optional 'Civic' to add the CoA etc in the same style as the LCC met borough infoboxes. I've deliberately put it away from the "succeeded by" field as, at first glance, it makes it looks like it is the CoA belongs to the successor. MRSC 23:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
Oh, arse - I just noticed you'd done that after I've added "Arms". Morwen - Talk 10:12, 22 September 2006 (UTC)


Why does this box need to be so wide? On most pages it just results in acres of unnecessary space. Owain (talk) 08:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

The current width is pretty standard with other similar infoboxes. MRSC 10:17, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Does it even need to have a fixed width though? If there are no images, or the images are narrower than 300px then it takes up an awful lot of space. I am looking at Monmouthshire as an example here. Owain (talk) 10:24, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


Some usages stick sq km in the area box; some use acres (as per example). There is a {{convert}} template which would allow the conversion to be done in the template, and standardise the format. In order to retain compatibility with the existing template, I would suggest the addition of |AreaFirstAcres and |AreaLastAcres, with |AreaFirst and |AreaLast left blank, then a call to convert for appropriately set values. This prints 'xxx acres (nn.n km²)' which covers both Imperial and SI units, per WP:MOSNUM. Comments? Kbthompson 20:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Civic emblem and coats of arms[edit]

I reverted this edit as it had an impact on a large number of articles, such as County of London and Metropolitan Borough of Bethnal Green which have images in the "Civic" field. MRSCTalk 07:33, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I've reviewed all 300+ transclusions of the template. There are a number of image fields and I'd like to describe how they all work. Here are the fields:

Field Intended for Position
Image Photograph or other image Top 1
Map Map showing the unit within its parent subdivision Top 2
Arms Coats of arms of council/corporations etc. Politics 1
Civic Civic emblem or logo Politics 2
DivisionsMap Map showing the subdivisions of the unit Bottom

Hopefully the images should all be located in the correct fields now. MRSCTalk 10:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Former Subdivision[edit]

What's the relationship? Should they be merged? Renata (talk) 19:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Coat of arms[edit]

I moved this back to the politics section as this seems the most logical place, following the practice at {{Infobox England county}} and {{Infobox London Borough}}. It also stops all the images in an infobox being bunched up together. MRSCTalk 17:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

I moved this back because it doesn't follow the rest of Wikipedia. Coats of arms for divisions are generally presented at the top of the box. Examples; Bavaria, Germany. Salzburg, Austria. Galicia, Spain. Groningen, Netherlands. County Cork, Ireland. And so on. - Yorkshirian (talk) 01:21, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
I've split the civic/arms fields so we can have the image either at top or bottom. MRSCTalk 04:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


I'm not sure how I should fill this parameter for North Cornwall. It was merged from "Bodmin and Launceston, along with Bude-Stratton urban district and Camelford Rural District, Launceston Rural District, Stratton Rural District and Wadebridge and Padstow Rural District." Do I list all of those places in the infobox or leave it blank? Jolly Ω Janner 01:33, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

New fields for captions[edit]

I've added fields to split captions from images. They are image_caption, map_caption, arms_caption, civic_caption and divisions_map_caption. MRSC (talk) 09:57, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


Is there any good reason for the forced display in all upper case of entries made in this field? -- Picapica (talk) 09:04, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

As nobody has replied to this question, I've removed it. -- Dr Greg  talk  14:03, 12 February 2017 (UTC)