Template talk:Islam and iman

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Updated the links and their explanations. Faajir is not fajir. I'm not sure this box is even needed though, there's a much more thorough Islam box available.

Meaning of Kafir[edit]

In the Qur'an Kafir only refers to indivduals who have rejected Islam, even after they are fully aware of it. This distingushes it from Non-Believer which is a broad term meaning anybody that isn't a muslim. I think this should be the description on the template, as it was from the Qur'an, the primary source of Islam. TheDalek 23:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Mumin and Muslim[edit]

The concept of Mumin is growing from Iman, Muslim is from Islam. Mumin, the believer, is who has given himself or herself to the faith heart and soul, but Muslim is not. So I change the order of it.----WWBread (talk) 02:57, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Sidebar version[edit] (talk) 03:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2014[edit]

It has been mentioned that Kafir – Concealer of the Truth (Non-Muslims). Non-Muslims should be replaced with Non-Believers. See here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kafir (talk) 17:54, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Don't see how that is an improvement. The term is only used for people who do not believe in Islam. Non-believers would be less specific, as people who believe in other faiths are not non-believers Cannolis (talk) 19:22, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

it's none-the-less misleading to use the term in that way since it's not synonymous with non-Muslim. A vague description is better than a misleading one. (talk) 16:21, 6 February 2016 :(UTC)


I suggest murtadd to be added into the infobox. -- (talk) 17:28, 12 July 2015 (UTC) ...as well as zindīq. -- (talk) 17:31, 12 July 2015 (UTC)