Template talk:Kosovo-stub

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I have protected this page owing to a mounting edit war over the icon used. Edit wars on templates can be far-reaching, owing to the transclusion of those templates on multiple pages. Thus, I ask that any discussion about the template occurs here.

In the interests of clarification, I will point out the following about the flag and plain blue icons at the centre of the dispute.

  • The flag is the recognised international symbol of Kosovo, and as such is a valid possibil;ity for a stub icon. However, given the circumstances of Kosovo's declaration of independence, it may not be the wisest choice of icon, as it may imply a lack of neutrality of Wikipedia's part.
  • The plain blue map is in line with similar icons (e.g., that used on Cyprus-stub), where a flag may be too controversial. The plain blue flag seems, on the other hand, to deny the flag's existence and thus may also be construed as being less than neutral.
  • A third option, such as a thumbnail icon of Pristina's best-known building (compare Tibet-stub), or a topographical rather than plain-coloured map, may be a better compromise solution.

Grutness...wha? 21:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd like to report that this issue was also considered on the Polish Wikipedia, during which a version of a stub template graphic was uploaded to Wikimedia Commons (it too originally was quoting the new Kosovo state flag), and then, a neutral version of a dark green map with a black border was uploaded on its place and that version was endorsed as politically neutral by overwhelming vote for. You might find this version pleasant enough, and since it already is on Commons and used at least on the Polish Wikimedia projects, you might like it as well. And it does not use a shade of blue reminiscent of the UN flag, nor is it a shade of green usede on any state flag that references Islam (I checked against the Commons repository of state flags). nor does it use any color on any locally relevant flag. Dark green at least has a cultural relevance to the country, and the fact, that the country looks green when viewed from space. Here's the image in question: stub-usable Kosovo map-symbol in politically neutral rendering. Best wishes, --Mareklug talk 10:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
A similar (blue) image has been used on Kosovo-geo-stub for quite a while, and I've no idea why it hasn't been used here. However, be prepared for other users to changee it - repeatedly. This template is supposed to be protected for reasons of all the icon changes here in the past. Quite why it was unprotected I don't know (the reason given - "this is a wiki") is simplistic in the extreme. Grutness...wha? 22:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done Agreed and used! Tadija (talk)
But, do you think that this photo is better? Kosovo outline.svg It may be even more neutral? Tadija (talk) 17:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
You've more or less got some form of agreement on the green map. Trying to reopen discussion on another image is likely to bring all the same conflicts up again. Though the cream map may be even more neutral (especially given that green is often used to represent Islam, which is IIRC an important factor in the differences between Albania, Kosovo, and Serbia). But it may be better to "quit while you're ahead" and stick with the current image. Grutness...wha? 23:04, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Yup, ok. There will be time. I asked because those green is same green as Libya flag... :) But it is OK, no matter... All best, Tadija (talk) 23:17, 18 December 2009 (UTC)


{{editprotected}} There really should be no spaces or whitelines between the "}}" at the end of a template and the <noinclude> tag. Debresser (talk) 09:41, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes check.svg DoneTheDJ (talkcontribs) 11:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)