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Need more info on the climate.[edit]

hey guys, I was reaind this article for info for my paper and there is absolutely no useable info on the climate of the region, can someone get some info with sources, especially on soil. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 16:09, 27 March 2009


There is: Time Zones UTC +8:00 (Tibet) to UTC +3:30 (Iran) But I know that Turkey, Egipt, Jordan. Lebanon (Syria?) are in UTC +2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 08:05, 29 November 2010

Spelling of transcription of Arabic "Middle East"[edit]

The article lists "Asharq Al-Awsṭ" as the transcription of Arabic الشرق الأوسط, "the Middle East."

The second word should be rendered something like "'awsaṭ."

I sometimes hear Arabic students incorrectly say "awsṭ," and I think this is why.

A more appropriate transcription would be "aš-šharq al-'awsaṭ." The (') should hook toward the left. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 17:06, 9 April 2013

Better Maps[edit]

This article needs desperately needs maps showing the countries and their major cities in relation to each other. Rissa, copy editor (talk) 00:29, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

How about File:Middle-East-map.gif? Horatio (talk) 00:46, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
I guess deleted maps are no good. I added a different one to the article, but there are others in [1]. Horatio (talk) 07:06, 14 March 2016 (UTC)


First of all, the section 'Traditional definition of the Middle East' doesn't cite any source that give a traditional definition. According to the CIA World Factbook, the Middle East doesn't include a 'Palestine' and the West Bank and Gaza Strip are listed seperatly source. Same is said by the The Encyclopaedia Brittanica. The 'World Atlas' say "Palestinian Territories" while it also includes all the "..stan" countries (no racism, just laziness) without Kazakhstan source. The UN doesn't have a definition, it has a definition to Western Asia but it exludes Egypt, list State of Palestine since the UN recognize the State of Palestine (But not all of it's members) and also lists the Caucasian states. The World Bank have the definitions "Middle East and Northern Africa" and it lists "West Bank and Gaza" without Israel source. The Middle East Institute lists all of the "traditional" countries with Afghanistan and Libya without Palestine. I suggest: Adding "West Bank" and "Gaza Strip" in one line and adding Palestinian Authority and State of Palestine outside of the list and sticking with the "traditional" definition of the CIA and Brittanica.



I think Greeks (representing a majority in Cyprus) should be added to the first paragraph among Armenians, Assyrians, etc. as a significant ethnic or etno-religious minority — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:29, 25 February 2016 (UTC)

Done. Khestwol (talk) 17:22, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Istanbul as one of largest cities ???[edit]

More than two thirds of Istanbul's population is on the European side. And the part that is in Asia is definitely not Middle East. Istanbul should be removed from the list. Denizyildirim (talk) 05:37, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Although East Thrace is considered part of Europe, the whole of Turkey is politically in the Middle East and Istanbul is a city in the Middle East. I think if it's politically in the Middle East and geographically in the border of the Middle East it should be included as a whole. Regardless of that, Istanbul has long history of relations with the Middle East as the capital of the Ottomans and earlier as Costantinople and Byzantium.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 15:11, 20 April 2016 (UTC)


Kurdish.... it not unofficial laguage, it is the second official language in iraqi conistitution. it doesn's equity against (kurdish language). why it could be thus..??????? BrotherDost (talk) 09:22, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Indeed it is an official language.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 11:38, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

yes it is (User:Belter21) IF we looking to iraqi conistitution, we 'll see that (kurdish language) is the official language... tank you. BrotherDost (talk) 12:04, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Add link to Mashriq in See Also[edit]

Another term that belongs in See Also (under the Regions column) is Mashriq. Can someone please add it? I don't have access.

Emilystremel (talk) 07:35, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Added--Bolter21 (talk to me) 12:09, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanksǃ Emilystremel (talk) 00:27, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Cyprus is European[edit]

On the website CIA World fact book you reference for Turkey as a middle eastern country has Cyprus as a European Country. Should we omit Cyprus from the list — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:47, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Cyprus is historically Middle Eastern and also Geographically. The notion that Turkey and Cyprus are European are ideas that received popularity in recent years.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 10:55, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Cyprus has always been thought of as a European country that's why we are part of the EU — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:53, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

The CIA world fact book has Cyprus as a European country — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:39, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

"always [...] EU". You will be surprised to know that the EU has not always existed. It was made up out of thin air in the 1990s, and it is in the process of falling apart in the 2010s. From the perspective of the history of Cyprus, that's a blink of an eye. It is still our blink-of-the-eye, so I do not dispute that it is notable to report whatever the EU or the CIA have to say about Cyprus. But please do not imply it is in any way "real" or "true" just because "it has been said" by these entities. --dab (𒁳) 10:15, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

The majority of Cypriots may be ethnically European, but that does not make Cyprus physically in Europe Iran-Middle-East (talk) 03:44, 8 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 July 2016[edit]

Tumelo Lesejane (talk) 08:28, 28 July 2016 (UTC) Middle East is a recent definition class region made by the United Nations to remove north African countries from African continent itself. There is no place called middle North or Middle West or Middle South except for this region.

Not done: as you have not made a specific request in the form "Please replace XX with YY" or "Please add ZZ between PP and QQ".
You have also not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article.
Furthermore, as stated in the article, the term was first used in the 1850s, but became widely known in 1902, long before the United Nations. - Arjayay (talk) 09:10, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

Turkey is not in the middle east[edit]

the climate, people, political situation, and culture almost everything is different. this article is the first I have seen which states Turkey as a country in the middle east. wrong and factless page run with only one guy's thinking.

I request somebody put a neutrality disputed warning on this, because there is no fact provided at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:49, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Do you actually think that the people and culture of the Middle East are homogeneous? This is far from true. The term "Middle East" was coined in 1902, by Alfred Thayer Mahan, to designate the entire geographic area "between Arabia and India". The current definition of the Middle East that we use in Wikipedia includes Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, the State of Palestine, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, and Yemen. They have different cultures, languages, and ethnic groups. But occupy the same region. Dimadick (talk) 18:38, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

unemployment in syria[edit]

Economy_of_Syria#Labour lists unemployment in 2009 as 12%, but here the unemployment in 2005 is listed at 73%. Can this really be true? Also suspicious is the "five-fold increase in unemployment" without naming dates. -- (talk) 13:16, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2017[edit]

Change the word "dictatorships" in the line: "with the dictatorships of the Arabian Peninsula in particular benefiting from petroleum exports." to "Countries". (talk) 08:49, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Note: The sentence is fine as it is. The change would produce: Most of the countries that border ............., with the countries ................ The use of "countries" at the beginning and at the end would be repetitive. DRAGON BOOSTER 11:39, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Note: Marking as answered. st170e 12:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
X mark.svg Not done in addition to the above, this page is for discussion on the template. If you wish to edit the Middle East topic, do so there. Sir Joseph (talk) 17:41, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 January 2017[edit]

There is a factual error. there is no country officially recognized as the state of palestine. please have it removed from all wikipedia list that have it named as a country. thank you. i will check back soon, before escalating this report to media contacts. thank you! Thetruelistofcountries (talk) 18:22, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - Mlpearc (open channel) 18:25, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
@Thetruelistofcountries: Be very careful and not violate INTIMIDATE. Thank you, - Mlpearc (open channel) 18:33, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Suggested move[edit]

Perhaps naming it "West Asia and Northern Africa" would be more appropriate as several related pages use the terms "North Africa" and "West Asia" as opposed to the ill-defined "Middle East". Sincerely, -- (talk) 20:33, 22 October 2015 (UTC)