Template talk:Navbox

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Redundant whitespace[edit]

Hello! Please have a look at the {{Virtualization software}} template, which has a short triple-level list that produces redundant whitespace between closing brackets, after Virtuozzo and before FreeBSD jail (see also a screenshot). That whitespace seems redundant to me, not like something intentional, and the logic of {{Navbox}} template should be fixed not to produce such whitespace. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 08:44, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Dsimic, are you sure it's a navbox issue and not a horizontal list issue? the styling of multi-level horizontal lists is controlled by MediaWiki:Common.css. Frietjes (talk) 20:42, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
This is an unavoidable artifact of browser suckage. --Izno (talk) 21:55, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

.navbox related common.css edit request[edit]

Just a heads up, I'm putting up an edit request for MediaWiki:Common.css shortly for the benefit of {{Portal bar}}, but the edit involves .navbox selectors. Old revision of User:Matt Fitzpatrick/common.css summarizes the edit request. The new CSS should resolve visual discrepancies in Template:Portal bar/testcases, but should not affect any part of Template:Navbox/testcases. Please let me know if you notice anything's gone wrong. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 23:20, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

auto width broken[edit]

Just a heads up. It was reported at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Long navbox template that my recent edit to Module:Navbox broke |style=width:auto.

  • One fix is display:table on the div wrapper, which would be super easy, but would not work in IE6-7.
  • Another fix is a new parameter to get the same visual effect, which may or may not work for IE6-7, will have to mess around in the sandbox tonight to see.

Any other ideas? Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 22:20, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

In the specific case of {{Events by month links/box}}, rewriting the table dependent |style=width:auto; min-width:35em; as |style=margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; width:36em; |style=width:36em; seems to fix the issue. Maybe this could also be a general solution for similar "width:auto" templates? Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 22:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
Edit: Deleted margin declarations, redundant with common.css. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 04:10, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Copying/translating a template from another wiki[edit]

I want to create an English version of fr:Modèle:Palette Grottes ornées. What's the best way to go about this? I should be able to deal with the translation issues, it's the technical issues I need help with. Thanks. Doug Weller talk 14:15, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

I've ported over the template syntax at Draft:Navbox_prehistoric_caves, so should just be a case of translating the text. Joe Roe (talk) 19:13, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
Fantastic. Doug Weller talk 14:57, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 29 July 2016[edit]


Hi! Some fellow Wikipedians asked me to help them create the "Navbox prehistoric caves", a draft is HERE. Predictably the navbox will grow soon and as far as i have read, the maximum number of groups that can be created is 20. Is there a more suitable template out there or can there an alternative Navbox be made, that does not restrict the number of goups? ATB Wikirictor (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Wikirictor (talk) 16:05, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

You should consider re-structuring your navbox. A navbox of more than 20 groups is unlikely to provide the navigation desired by the common reader. I have some draft navboxes for musicians at User:Natalie.Desautels/sandbox/Classical and flamenco guitar templates#Modern era which might inform a navbox which doesn't need 20 groups for navigation. (Aside: The pictures should go since they don't aid in navigation and the flags should go per WP:MOSFLAG.) --Izno (talk) 16:17, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Also, X mark.svg Not done on your edit request. Though your desire is probably reasonable in some sense, it does not have consensus for a template under massive use. Please establish such a consensus. --Izno (talk) 16:18, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for your clarifications. I will pass on your advice. ATBWikirictor (talk) 17:46, 29 July 2016 (UTC)


Wikirictor, In addition to Izno's comments...
  • Would it help to split it into "Navbox prehistoric caves/Africa", "Navbox prehistoric caves/Asia"... and set "Navbox prehistoric caves" to transclude them?
  • For specific help, and to ensure your efforts are consistent with other efforts, check at Wikipedia:WikiProject Anthropology and Wikipedia:WikiProject Archaeology. Have a look at how other articles & templates in that project area handle the problem. Both projects have an assessment tables that link to the templates in the project's scope.
  • The first link from your navbox I tried was to Abîme, a generic geographical term rather than an actual location. You need to take care and double check all the links you're providing.
  • Bear in mind, the purpose of a navbox is to assist in navigation. Keep your navbox to the essentials to serve that purpose and it'll more likely gain acceptance and widespread usage.
Hope that helps, for (;;) (talk) 16:36, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for your support and suggestions - i will pass these on as well. ATBWikirictor (talk) 17:51, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Wikirictor, have you actually tried adding more than 20 groups? -- WOSlinker (talk) 17:41, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Do you mean adding these above tags or an actual 21st group. Yes, tried the latter and it did not work. Thanks a lot anyway for your (and the others) quick and competent help. I will check out your snippet.ATBWikirictor (talk) 17:58, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
Wikirictor, {{Navbox subgroup}} is limited to 20 but {{Navbox}} is not. You can use Navbox with the |border=child option instead of Navbox subgroup. -- WOSlinker (talk) 19:33, 29 July 2016 (UTC)