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Additional fields[edit]

There have been discussions in the past about merging tournament event articles (e.g. 2015 Brisbane International – Men's Singles) with the parent tournament articles (2015 Brisbane International) but no consensus to do so has been reached so it seems the tennis event articles are here to stay for the time being. I have seen a great number of these articles and what strikes me is that most are clearly created on the assumption that readers navigate to them via the parent tournament article. Almost all of them have just a tiny lede, providing little context and explanation as required per WP:LEAD, and the event infobox is rudimentary (see example).

Infobox tennis tournament event
2015 Brisbane International
Champion Switzerland Roger Federer
Runner-up Canada Milos Raonic
Final score 6–4, 6–7(2–7), 6–4
Events
Singles men women
Doubles men women
← 2014 · Brisbane International · 2016 →

We should improve these ledes but the infobox can also be improved to provide more information and context. Specifically I propose to add the following fields to the tennis events template:

  • Prize money
Total prize money for the event (as opposed to the tournament)
  • Date
Begin and end date of the event. If this is the same as the dates of the tournament it should be left empty, or alternatively, be filled automatically with the tournament date if that is technically feasible.
  • Draw
Draw size for the event
  • Qualifiers
Number of qualifiers in the main event
  • Wildcards
Number of wildcards available for the main event

With these fields added to the infobox, and hopefully more substantial ledes, the reader who (directly) navigates to the event page should have a better context and understanding of the article than is currently the case. Thoughts? Are these the right fields to add or should there be more/fewer? --Wolbo (talk) 15:54, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I'm a french user. On fr.wikipedia, some of these fields already exist : Prize money, Date, draw. I'm not convinced of the usefulness of fields like "qualifiers" or "wildcards" : it doesn't give a very important information and the fact it is in any case present on the full article is imho enough. Just a query : how to divide prize money into "singles prize money" and "doubles prize money" given the fact it is globally given by ATP/WTA/tournament organisers ? A.Gust14 (talk) 09:23, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
Hi @A.Gust14:, keep in mind that all the information in the infobox should also be present in the article itself, the infobox summarizes the info, in this case for instance by showing the number of qualifiers and wildcards in the infobox while the article lists the names and nationality of the players. Also the French tournament articles like Open de Brisbane 2014 (ATP) are a combination of two types of articles on the English wikipedia: the tournament edition (2014 Brisbane International) and tournament events (e.g. 2014 Brisbane International – Men's Singles) so for the French articles it might therefore be logical not to mention qualifiers and wildcards in the tournament infobox, similar to the English tournament article. For the tournament event infobox, which is what we are talking about here, it seems logical to add this information. The total singles and doubles prize money is usually provided for the Grand Slams while for the other tournaments it may require adding up the prize money for the individual rounds, as listed on the drawsheets (e.g. 1).--Wolbo (talk) 15:10, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
@Wolbo: The structure of tournament article(s) is indeed different on fr.wp and en.wp, but it doesn't change my opinion that, in any article (main article or singles article or doubles article), I don't find this information useful. Are there 4/6/8 qualifiers ? Are there 2/3/4 wild-cards ? It is not what the reader wants prioritary to know when he comes to read the article. It is important to keep infobox for main information. But it is just an opinion, among many others... A.Gust14 (talk) 16:18, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
I would also question the need for listing how many wildcards or qualifiers in the infobox. I'm not sure anyone tallys that up. I could be wrong but I have never seen it mentioned on tv or newspapers either. Just my thoughts. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:50, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Been a bit bold and added the fields Draw and Seeds to the tennis tournament event template. The Draw field can optionally include the number of qualifiers and/or wild cards if that information is available. An example of how this works out can be seen at 1977 Wimbledon Championships – Men's Singles.--Wolbo (talk) 11:54, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 24 January 2016[edit]

Could you please change the "champion" into "Champion", higher-case seems much better. 333-blue 02:38, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

}}}} champion{{#ifeq:{{{4|{{{3}}}}}}|s|s}}
to
}}}} Champion{{#ifeq:{{{4|{{{3}}}}}}|s|s}}

? — xaosflux Talk 02:57, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Because the label already appears to be uppercase, as in 2005_US_Open_–_Women's_Singles. Can you show an example of where this is showing the way you don't want? Reactivate this edit-request if ready to proceed. — xaosflux Talk 02:59, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
  • @Xaosflux: no, change "{{#expr:{{{1|{{CURRENTYEAR}}}}}-1}} champion" to "{{#expr:{{{1|{{CURRENTYEAR}}}}}-1}} Champion". 333-blue 04:09, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
@333-blue: I'm sorry, I must be missing this somewhere, can you please make the edit to Template:Infobox tennis tournament event/sandbox and ping me when done. — xaosflux Talk 04:41, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
  •  Done @333-blue: OK, should be good, sorry for all the back and forth! — xaosflux Talk 05:02, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! It looks better. 333-blue 05:48, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Doubles -> doubles etc.[edit]

All capital/Upper-case letters on "Singles" and " Doubles" should be changed to lower-case so all pages using the template will manage without redirects. Another effect if this is implemented is that the link should only be black text when the article using the template refers to itself. Vogler (talk) 00:54, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Qualifying[edit]

Qualifying draws would be a nice addition, placed in template just below wheelchair competitions, or next to the main draws TheLightBlue (talk) 13:46, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

I don't think they're needed. Too trivial. Fyunck(click) (talk) 17:24, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Bad linking[edit]

The navigational links to previous and subsequent year at the bottom of the infobox go to plain years, against the guidelines and of little use to readers. Surely they should go to tennis-related "in year" articles? Tony (talk) 01:37, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

User:Tony1, I am guessing this is due to a transclusion missing the second parameter. now tracking with Category:Pages using infobox tennis tournament event without second parameter. if you have a specific example, please post a link here. Frietjes (talk) 22:58, 1 November 2016 (UTC)
Frietjes, thanks; really rushed in real life. Will keep this page handy for my return in a few days' time. Tony (talk) 11:50, 2 November 2016 (UTC)