Wikipedia talk:Template messages/User talk namespace

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"you can leave me a message on my talk page"[edit]

I'm not sure if this is the right place to discuss this. Here is a quote from a standard template: "or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page". My impression is that we usually want to encourage discussion about article improvements on that article's talk page. When patrolling changes and reverting a lot of edits, this calls for users to first post on the patroller's talk page instead, even if an article was supplied as parameter. Thanks, — PaleoNeonate — 22:27, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

After rechecking, these invitations only seem be part of the first-level templates. I guess that avoiding that level is appropriate in some circumstances, especially if a former welcome message was already issued; I understand that it can be helpful for new editors otherwise. — PaleoNeonate — 20:04, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
It may still be useful for level-2+ templates to more systematically invite discussion on the article's talk page (with an explicit link), especially for uw-pov... — PaleoNeonate — 20:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi PaleoNeonate. This template language was tested against various alternatives some years ago, and I believe the general finding was that people were less likely to vandalize if they felt like they were talking to actual humans. As a practical matter, I've used these templates thousands of times, and I don't recall anyone actually responding on my talk page as a result of the template. That said, the testing was really only done on level 1 templates, so I think you may be right about level 2 etc.--Mojo Hand (talk) 20:23, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

You left me a message saying "If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page." so that's what I did.

Face-smile.svg — PaleoNeonate — 20:30, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Resolved: I now consider this resolved, I use level-2 and upwards where appropriate. It may still be an improvement to have those include the article talk page link along with the invitation to discuss. Level-1 (with the invitation to answer on the patroller's talk page) can still be useful for very new editors who may require help. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate - 04:21, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Change "can" to "will"[edit]

I suggest changing "can" to "will" because "can" is probably not enough to stop users from disruptive editing. "Will" is correct because continued disruptive editing will result in lost editing rights 100%. "Repeated vandalism can result in the loss of editing privileges." should be "Repeated vandalism will result in the loss of editing privileges." This should be changed to all templates mentioning blocks. (talk) 00:24, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

I think "can" is correct; it's not automatic. If the vandalism isn't spotted, the vandal won't be blocked. If the vandalism is undone by an editor who doesn't know how to make a report to WP:AIV, the vandal won't be blocked. Doubtless there are other cases. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:03, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Page blanking messages[edit]

{{blank}} recently had a TfD that led to it being redirected to {{uw-delete1}}. I wasn't aware of the TfD at the time - I just used the template and didn't see any need to look at the template page regularly.

I started a DRV, but am now posting here to facilitate wider discussion. As stated, the wording of {{uw-delete1}} is not suitable for the scenario whereby a user has blanked a page completely.

Ideally, what I would like to do is replace the current redirect at {{uw-blank1}} with a message for this scenario, based on the message we had at {{blank}}. I suppose it would be a matter of getting {{blank}} moved to {{uw-blank1}} (since it would essentially be the same message under a different name, and as such should preserve the history) and updating the template to the modern format. (These actions need not happen in this order.) Needless to say, we should have a corresponding message for {{uw-blank2}} as well. I guess {{uw-blank3}} and {{uw-blank4}} can remain as redirects.

What do people think to this idea? — Smjg (talk) 22:26, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

I like the idea, tbh. I've felt the same way at times. Gatemansgc (talk) 03:57, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Arabic not English template is in Chinese[edit]

Imagine my embarrassment. Maybe I can sift back and find it.Dlohcierekim (talk) 22:42, 13 June 2017 (UTC)  Done

Add A7?[edit]

The template as presently written only covers CSD A1 (no context) or A3 (no content). Should we also include A7 (notability)? There is no criticality in deleting non-notable entries, but I often see A7 tags applied within 1 or 2 minutes of article creation? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:34, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

What template are you talking about, {{uw-hasty}}? If so, consensus has not been established for that (1). — JJMC89(T·C) 20:42, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Better wording needed[edit]

The template relates to AfD, but the message invites the recipient to comment on the "proposed deletion", which is of course an entirely different process. Jellyman (talk) 10:05, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Which template are you referring to? Perhaps you meant to leave this message at that template's Talk page? DonIago (talk) 14:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Ah, sorry – I didn't notice that the individual user warning templates' talk pages redirect here. I was referring to {{Uw-afd2}}. Jellyman (talk) 18:33, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, I think the key is that it's referring to a proposed deletion, not Proposed Deletion, but I take your point. "the article's entry on the Articles for deletion page" would seem to be the standard wording used elsewhere, but how you could dynamically link to it is beyond my sphere of knowledge. DonIago (talk) 20:38, 20 June 2017 (UTC)