Template talk:WPBannerMeta

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I'm planning to make some changes to Template:WPBannerMeta/comments to remove the functionality to encourage use of /Comments subpages. This was removed from the main template years ago. Also to detect redirects and treat them appropriately. There's some code in Template:WPBannerMeta/comments/sandbox. WOSlinker: I notice that you worked on this template last, adding styling parameters, etc. Are you aware of any banners calling this as a hook? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:05, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

@MSGJ: There are loads of banners that still have comments enabled but there is only one that has the SHOW_INLINE option enabled, which is Template:WikiProject Tree of Life and it only has 6 articles with comments, so perhaps the SHOW_INLINE option could also be removed? -- WOSlinker (talk) 20:24, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
Good idea, will do. I was just wondering why you added parameters like bgcolor and style which were not passed from the main template. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:43, 14 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm sure it was used somewhere at one point but it doesn't appear to be anymore. I searched for SHOW_INLINE and bgcolor and style are no longer in use. -- WOSlinker (talk) 00:14, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

User:WOSlinker, are you aware of any non-standardised banners making use of comments? (I'm aware of maths, are there any others?) Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:58, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

@MSGJ:, only other one is Template:WikiProject U.S. Roads. -- WOSlinker (talk) 13:06, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
Also, the following search may be useful. -- WOSlinker (talk) 13:10, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Allow taskforce icons to be unlinked?[edit]

Many users not familiar with Wikipedia would probably assume, seeing an icon that represents a task force, that clicking it would bring them to that task force, as that is how most web pages and GUIs are designed. I understand why we need to have those images link to their description pages if the images use a license with an Attribution requirement. However, many of the taskforce icons that are being used with this template, due to them having to be simple and recognizable enough at small sizes, are either public domain or have licenses without an attribution requirement. Would it be beneficial to add a parameter to allow these images be unlinked? I personally think the benefits in usability would outweigh the potential for misuse, especially on templates like {{WikiProject Philosophy}} where the icon is just a dot, and clicking it taking you to an image page is definitely not the expected behavior. --Ahecht (TALK
) 14:43, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

That's fine if the image is PD or certain other non-copyright license. But if it's copyright (for example the Constellations taskforce at {{WikiProject Astronomy}} uses File:Astro constel task force.svg, which is licensed GFDL with CC BY-SA), a link is normally required for attribution. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:30, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
As I suggested on Template talk:WikiProject Philosophy (with some agreement from Ahecht), outputting a simple bulleted list where an image is not required or useful would perhaps be better than a confusing user experience. I agree that being able to switch off linking for PD images might be an acceptable option when used correctly, but there is the possibility for abuse (not necessarily malicious); might Lua be able to automatically disallow delinking if the image licence is inappropriate? fredgandt 16:51, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Korea[edit]

Could someone please have a quick look at the {{WikiProject Korea}} banner? Intended behaviour is for the working groups to be collapsed if more than one is displayed, but there seems to be an issue with the politics working group. For example:

WikiProject Korea (Rated Template-class)
WikiProject icon This template is within the scope of WikiProject Korea, a collaborative effort to build and improve articles related to Korea. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion.
 Template  This template does not require a rating on the project's quality scale.

It's not obvious to me what the problem is, so any help appreciated. PC78 (talk) 02:37, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Fixed with this edit. -- WOSlinker (talk) 09:38, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Many thanks! PC78 (talk) 14:31, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Multiple portals?[edit]

Is there any way for the banner to link to more than one portal? Specifically this would be of use to {{WikiProject Lancashire and Cumbria}}, where the main portals are Portal:Lancashire and Portal:Cumbria. PC78 (talk) 15:01, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Have a look at e.g. Template:WikiProject Trains which has a variable list of one to five portals displayed. You can see them all at Talk:East Croydon station. --Redrose64 (talk) 19:44, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
Hmmm, I gave it a go but it's a bit of a hack and the banner text doesn't sit right. {{Portal}} supports multiple parameters, is there no way of having the BannerMeta do so as well? PC78 (talk) 10:55, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Where did you try it? --Redrose64 (talk) 14:23, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
Template:WikiProject Lancashire and Cumbria/sandbox. Meh, it's not a major issue, the current banner is probably fine as it is. PC78 (talk) 14:31, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Namespace defaults[edit]

Would it be reasonable for banners placed on Module talk pages to default to Template-Class, and for banners placed on TimedText talk pages to default to File-Class? Currently these are both treated as NA-Class. PC78 (talk) 12:55, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

This change would need to be made in {{Class mask}}. A similar request was mentioned on the talk page in Oct 2015 but was not followed up. -- WOSlinker (talk) 14:34, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
An edit like this may be all that's necessary. --Redrose64 (talk) 20:05, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
I'd imagine it's not hard to do from a technical point of view, but are there any valid arguments for not doing this? Can we do similar for the likes of Help talk, Education Program talk, etc.? I should probably have a look at how WikiProject banners are actually being used in these namespaces. PC78 (talk) 00:15, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
I've made some further comments over at Template talk:Class mask. Probably best to continue the discussion there rather than splitting it over two pages. PC78 (talk) 02:52, 2 July 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject Essays[edit]

Can someone take a look at {{WikiProject Essays}}? The banner has an "impact" rating (basically a renamed importance) but it doesn't appear to be adding pages to any categories. PC78 (talk) 01:07, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

You would need to undo this edit from Feb 2015 to fix it. -- WOSlinker (talk) 08:44, 23 July 2016 (UTC)