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Request for template updating[edit]

-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zlobny (talkcontribs) 18:28, 18 July 2013‎

turkish wikipedia now have 250.446 article please update this[edit]

turkish wikipedia now have 250.446 article please update this.--Koroğlu (talk) 17:59, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Done. —David Levy 23:29, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Urdu Wikipedia[edit]

Urdu Wikipedia is not included but some other wikipedias which have rather less articles, edits, active users and depth are there. Is that fair? Another reason is that most of Urdu speakers (in Pakistan and India) even don't know that a wikipedia in Urdu language exists that's why they mostly use English wikipedia, by adding Urdu Wikipedia's link many of these people will know about Urdu Wikipedia and it might be helpful for Urdu Wikipedia that will possibly get more readers and volunteers. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:12, 15 August 2015 (UTC)

We stopped relying on the "depth" calculations, which often are artificiality inflated (not necessarily on purpose) via edits performed by multiple bots. To see what I mean, view the edit history of this placeholder article, the first random page that I viewed. Unfortunately, it appears that much of the Urdu Wikipedia is in a similar state.
Your point regarding the attention that a link would provide is valid, but it applies to numerous Wikipedias (many of which match or exceed the Urdu Wikipedia's quality, even if the absence of mostly-empty pages has resulted in a lower article count). If we're to maintain any sort of qualitative criteria, it isn't feasible to include them.
In the past, there's been some discussion of creating a new main page section to showcase a a rotating selection of sister sites (other languages' Wikipedias and/or other Wikimedia Foundation projects in English). If this occurs, perhaps we could cover Wikipedias omitted from our regular list. —David Levy 14:48, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
You are somewhat right but i think it is better to have some South Asian languages on en wikipedia's main page after all most of people there are anglophones, like Spanish wikipedia have links of those languages whose speakers speak Spanish as second language even quality of those is inadequate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:57, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Request to differentiate Traditional and Simplified Chinese pages[edit]

Hey, Wikipedia newbie here.

So, I'm a Chinese language student in China (PRC) and have been studying for 2 years here.

Unfortunately, when I go on a lot of Wikipedia pages in Chinese, the pages are almost always a co-mingled messy conglomeration of Traditional and Simplified characters. Sometimes this is not a problem as 60% or so of the character sets are 100% the same like in the case of some basic pronouns and most numbers. Sometimes this is only a small problem like in the case of 国/國 and 说/說, which mean "country" and "say," respectively. But there are MANY other cases where I have no idea what it is trying to say. To show you how different Simplified and Traditional can be, here is the not-as-uncommon-as-you-might-think characters for "dragon": 龙/龍--there's just no way to guess something like that, and there are a lot of cases like that.

To find page after page after page with co-mingled alphabets like that is kind of ridiculous, and at the very least appears extremely unprofessional in Chinese. Though most of the the savvy Chinese internet users who regularly use Wikipedia almost certainly have a strong understanding of both Simplified and Traditional, I'm sure there are a lot of people like me who only know one character set and thus are really put off from using Wikipedia in Chinese because of the annoyance and difficulty.

Many websites that cater to both Mainland and non-Mainland users tend to have an option to change every webpage to Traditional (繁体) or Simplified (简体) without difficulty. Thus, I propose that we split the Chinese pages into two sets--one in Traditional and one in Simplified, but since there is one-to-one correspondence between characters, every time one page in one character set is altered, the opposite respective page in its own character set receives that same change.

China (PRC) only blocks some parts of Wikipedia but not all of Wikipedia--in fact I'm not using my VPN right now, which demonstrates my point. China is the largest country in the world and speaks one of the most common languages in the world. To not cater to this group of potential users would be a silly mistake if it can be easily fixed.

The one problem for me is that I have no programming background so I have no clue how easy this would be in practice. So I throw this subject to you. Thanks for reading! :-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sophyphreak (talkcontribs) 21:53, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

This is the talk page for the template that produces the "other Wikipedias" footer seen on a number of pages. It is not for general discussions of Wikipedia. For the *English* Wikipedia, such a question should probably go on Wikipedia:Help desk or on Wikipedia:Village pump. But those are only for the English Wikipedia, the other languages projects are largely independent, and set their own rules for content and such, and the policies here (en-wp) don't apply. So you should probably ask at the Chinese Wikipedia ([1]) help desk, which is (I think!) at [2]. Note there are also existing Wikipedia's for classical Chinese ([3]), Cantonese ([4]) and Wu Chinese ([5]), which presumably have their own help desks (although these seem rather less active places than the main Chinese Wikipedia). Rwessel (talk) 22:50, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Languages sorted by views[edit]

I know it's not our usual criteria but I sorted Wikipedia languages by views per hour in November 2015 based on https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/Sitemap.htm. Languages with more than 1000 views are listed. This includes all languages currently in {{Wikipedia languages}}. The last column marks them.

Code Language Views/h Articles
en English 6,067,067 5,022,395 (X)
de German 876,241 1,881,065 X
ru Russian 871,999 1,271,240 X
es Spanish 726,624 1,175,371 X
ja Japanese 717,454 993,516 X
fr French 603,875 1,700,734 X
it Italian 303,440 1,238,144 X
zh Chinese 286,205 849,936 X
pl Polish 241,524 1,146,140 X
pt Portuguese 226,592 895,796 X
nl Dutch 120,952 1,844,444 X
tr Turkish 95,447 256,816 X
ar Arabic 76,080 393,073 X
sv Swedish 69,682 2,158,119 X
cs Czech 66,518 338,592 X
id Indonesian 58,972 371,991 X
fa Persian 47,607 475,210 X
ko Korean 45,253 333,780 X
uk Ukrainian 44,973 603,799 X
fi Finnish 41,935 383,582 X
hu Hungarian 36,892 375,807 X
vi Vietnamese 34,747 1,141,303 X
he Hebrew 31,024 181,336 X
th Thai 27,895 98,896 X
no Norwegian 25,635 425,490 X
ro Romanian 23,845 353,084 X
da Danish 22,520 211,716 X
el Greek 19,718 112,141 X
bg Bulgarian 16,911 210,401 X
sr Serbian 16,286 328,968 X
ca Catalan 15,779 486,702 X
hr Croatian 13,563 146,471 X
kk Kazakh 13,081 218,472
sk Slovak 12,121 207,376 X
lt Lithuanian 8,719 174,944 X
simple Simple English 8,581 116,115 X
et Estonian 8,177 139,925 X
sl Slovene 5,752 148,447 X
ka Georgian 5,536 101,406
sh Serbo-Croatian 5,454 429,133 X
hi Hindi 5,204 102,808
tl Tagalog 4,896 64,438
az Azeri 4,724 101,999
ms Malay 4,200 279,784 X
lv Latvian 4,141 64,319 X
hy Armenian 3,527 191,108
bs Bosnian 2,862 65,866 X
sq Albanian 2,732 56,841
zh-yue Cantonese 2,342 41,248
mk Macedonian 2,100 84,532
eu Basque 2,068 216,901 X
ta Tamil 2,052 83,352
gl Galician 1,847 126,194 X
eo Esperanto 1,774 222,366 X
mr Marathi 1,730 43,569
arz Egyptian Arabic 1,719 14,527
bn Bengali 1,700 39,437
ceb Cebuano 1,575 1,435,540
be Belarusian 1,354 109,683
ur Urdu 1,336 94,219
nn Nynorsk 1,315 124,430 X
te Telugu 1,210 63,827
ml Malayalam 1,179 41,361
is Icelandic 1,173 40,138
af Afrikaans 1,162 37,800
mn Mongolian 1,068 17,125

Should we change something to help readers find what they may be looking for? For example, Kazakh is not included but has more articles and 10 times as many viewers as Nynorsk. But Norwegians are more likely than Kazakhs to view the English Wikipedia. Note the main Norwegian variant no is not under discussion. There is a related discussion with a shorter table at Template talk:Wikipedia languages/Archive 6#Further discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:22, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

It's a very gameable criteria (people can easily write a bot to constantly spam page lookups on a specific Wikipedia), but it might be useful to detect outliers if there's cause to think the numbers aren't being gamed. I think adding Kazakh (as an outlier in a weirdly high number of hits) might be reasonable despite the quality problems, and same with removing Nynorsk - the reason Nynorsk is as high on article count as it is is probably related to the ease of taking Bokmal articles and sticking them in Nynorsk, even if few readers care. Everything else can probably stay, though. My two cents. SnowFire (talk) 21:31, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Japanese WP[edit]

The Japanese Wikipedia version now exceeds 1,000,000 articles. Congratulations --Thomas Wozniak (talk) 11:43, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

The Japanese WP is now under 1M again. Seems like they just deleted a thousand or so articles. --Portalian 15:04, 25 January 2016 (UTC)