Chicken or the egg

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The chicken or the egg causality dilemma is commonly stated as "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" To ancient philosophers, the question about the first chicken or egg also evoked the questions of how life and the universe in general began.[1]

From a modern scientific perspective,[according to whom?] the chicken egg came first because the genetic recombination that produced the first "chicken" (though that may be an arbitrary definition in a breeding population undergoing speciation) occurred in germ-line cells in a non-chicken ancestor.[citation needed] Another literal answer is that "the egg" in general came first, because egg-laying species pre-date the existence of chickens.[citation needed]

Cultural references to the chicken and egg intend to point out the futility of identifying the first case of a circular cause and consequence.[citation needed] The metaphorical view sets a metaphysical ground to the dilemma.[citation needed] To better understand its metaphorical meaning, the question could be reformulated as: "Which came first, X that can't come without Y, or Y that can't come without X?"[citation needed]

An equivalent situation arises in engineering and science,[according to whom?] and is known as circular reference, in which a parameter is required to calculate that parameter itself. Examples are Van der Waals equation and the Colebrook–White equation.[citation needed].

History of the dilemma[edit]

A chick hatching from an egg

Classical and early perspectives[edit]

Ancient references to the dilemma are found in the writings of classical philosophers. Their writings indicate that the proposed problem was perplexing to them and was commonly discussed by others of their time as well.

Aristotle (384–322 BC) was puzzled by the idea that there could be a first bird or egg and concluded that both the bird and egg must have always existed:

If there has been a first man he must have been born without father or mother – which is repugnant to nature. For there could not have been a first egg to give a beginning to birds, or there should have been a first bird which gave a beginning to eggs; for a bird comes from an egg.[2][dated info] [according to whom?]

The same he held good for all species, believing, with Plato, "that everything before it appeared on earth had first its being in spirit."[3][dated info]

Plutarch (46–126) referred to a hen rather than simply a bird.[citation needed] Plutarch discussed a series of arguments based on questions posed in a symposium; under the section entitled "Whether the hen or the egg came first", the discussion is introduced in such a way suggesting[according to whom?] that the origin of the dilemma was even older:

the problem about the egg and the hen, which of them came first, was dragged into our talk, a difficult problem which gives investigators much trouble. And Sulla my comrade said that with a small problem, as with a tool, we were rocking loose a great and heavy one, that of the creation of the world.[4][5][6][non-primary source needed]

Macrobius (early 5th century), a Roman philosopher, found the problem to be interesting:

You jest about what you suppose to be a triviality, in asking whether the hen came first from an egg or the egg from a hen, but the point should be regarded as one of importance, one worthy of discussion, and careful discussion at that.[7][8][non-primary source needed]

Miscellaneous perspectives[edit]

Scientific resolution[edit]

A simple explanation of why the egg came first was by Roy A. Sorensen in his one-page-article in 1992. He argued that although it is indeterminate which animal was the first chicken, the question of whether the chicken or the chicken egg came first has a determinate answer. Since an animal does not evolve into another species during its lifetime, and since organisms can fail to breed true, it is biologically necessary that the chicken egg came first.[11][full citation needed]

Evolution changes species over time via mutation and sexual reproduction. Since DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) can be modified before and after birth,[12] it can be argued that a mutation must have taken place at conception or within an egg such that a creature similar to a chicken, but not a chicken, laid the first chicken eggs. These eggs then hatched into chickens that inbred to produce a living population.[13][14] Hence, in this light, both the chicken and the structure of its egg evolved simultaneously from birds that, while not of the same exact species, gradually became more and more like present-day chickens over time.

However, no one mutation in one individual can be considered as resulting in the constitution of a new species.[according to whom?][citation needed] A speciation event involves the separation of one population from its parent population, so that interbreeding ceases;[citation needed] this is the process whereby domesticated animals are genetically separated from their wild forebears.[dubious ][citation needed] The whole separated group can then be recognized as a new species.[dubious ][citation needed]

The modern chicken was believed to have descended from another closely related species of birds, the red junglefowl, but recently discovered genetic evidence suggests that the modern domestic chicken is a hybrid descendant of both the red junglefowl and the grey junglefowl.[15][non-primary source needed] Assuming the evidence bears out,[speculation?] a hybrid is a compelling scenario that the chicken egg, based on the second definition, came before the chicken.[according to whom?][citation needed]

This implies that the egg existed before the chicken, but that the chicken egg did not exist until an arbitrary threshold was crossed that differentiates a modern chicken from its ancestors. Even if such a threshold could be defined, an observer would be unlikely to identify that the threshold had been crossed until the first chicken had been hatched and hence the first chicken egg could not be identified as such.

A simple view is that at whatever point the threshold was crossed and the first chicken was hatched, it had to hatch from an egg. The type of bird that laid that egg, by definition, was on the other side of the threshold and therefore not a chicken—it may be viewed as a proto-chicken or ancestral chicken of some sort, from which a genetic variation or mutation occurred that resulted in the egg being laid containing the embryo of the first chicken. In this light, the argument is settled and the 'egg' had to have come first. However, whether this was defined as a chicken egg or proto-chicken egg is debatable. So technically the egg came before the chicken, but the chicken may have come before the chicken egg. So it depends on whether the question is "What came first, the chicken or the egg" or "what came first, the chicken or the chicken egg".

Logically the final conclusion can be drawn that the egg indeed came before the chicken, as a bird that was not a chicken could accumulate germline mutations in a single sperm or ovum to produce the first genetically identifiable chicken, but a non-chicken egg is much less likely to produce a non-chicken which accumulates enough identical somatic cell mutations across its cells to create a chicken spontaneously.

In common parlance[edit]

The term "chicken-and-egg problem" is further commonly used to describe a situation that is not a philosophical dilemma, but one in which it is impossible to reach a certain desired outcome because a necessary precondition is not satisfied, while to meet that precondition in turn requires that the desired outcome has already been realized.[citation needed]

For example, it has been argued that the transformation to alternative fuels for vehicles faces a chicken-and-egg problem: "it is not economical for individuals to purchase vehicles using alternative fuels absent sufficient refueling stations, and it is not economical for fuel dealers to open stations absent sufficient alternative fuel vehicles".[16] This is closely related to the economic concept of vicious circle, but in this kind of situation one that becomes a virtuous circle upon reaching a tipping point. This phenomenon can be explained and measured using the theory of bistability.

See also[edit]


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  2. ^ François Fénelon: Abrégé des vies des anciens philosophes, Paris 1726, p. 314 (French). Translation: Lives of the ancient philosophers, London 1825, p. 202 (English)[dated info]
  3. ^ Blavatsky, H.P. (1877). Isis Unveiled. pp. I, 426–428. [unreliable source?][dated info]
  4. ^ Plutarch (1976). Plutarch's Moralia: Table-talk : Books I-III. Heinemann. 
  5. ^ Renaud, Gabriel (2005). Protein Secondary Structure Prediction using inter-residue contacts. pp. 71.
  6. ^ Pluatarch, Moralia, ΣΥΜΠΟΣΙΑΚΩΝ ΒΙΒΛΙΑ Θ, ΣΥΜΠΟΣΙΑΚΩΝ ΒΙΒΛΙΟΝ ΔΕΥΤΕΡΟΝ, ΠΡΟΒΛΗΜΑ Γ: Πότερον ἡ ἄρνις πρότερον ἢ τὸ ᾠὸν ἐγένετο, 635e-638a.[non-primary source needed]
  7. ^ Smith, Page; Charles Daniel (2000). The Chicken Book. University of Georgia Press. p. 169. ISBN 0-8203-2213-X. 
  8. ^ Macrobius, Saturnalia, VII, 16.[non-primary source needed]
  9. ^ "Archives: Meeting Dr. Stephen Hawking". The Bridge School. 2005. Archived from the original on 2012-12-30. Retrieved 2012-12-30. [better source needed]
  10. ^ Engber, Daniel (2013). "FYI: Which Came First, The Chicken Or The Egg?". Popular Science (Bonnier Corporation) 282 (3): 78. Retrieved 15 February 2013. 
  11. ^ Roy A. Sorensen. 1992. The Egg came before the chicken. Oxford University Press.[full citation needed]
  12. ^ Adel, Waleed. "Revealed: Scientists ‘edit’ DNA to correct adult genes and cure diseases". Steve Connor. Retrieved 2014-04-22. 
  13. ^ CNN (May 26, 2006). "Chicken and egg debate unscrambled". Retrieved 2008-02-09. 
  14. ^ HowStuffWorks. "Which came first, the chicken or the egg?". HowStuffWorks. Retrieved 2008-02-09. 
  15. ^ Eriksson J, Larson G, Gunnarsson U, Bed'hom B, Tixier-Boichard M; et al. (January 23, 2008). "Identification of the Yellow Skin Gene Reveals a Hybrid Origin of the Domestic Chicken". PLoS Genetics, e10.eor. preprint (2008): e10. doi:10.1371/journal.pgen.1000010.eor. Retrieved 2008-02-20. [non-primary source needed]
  16. ^ Saving Energy in U.S. Transportation (PDF). U.S. Congress Office of Technology Assessment. 1994. OTA-ETI-589.