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Climate Tables[edit]

Please do not remove the parameters that make the climate box fit within the article they are used to help improve the readability of the article. Thanks Kyle1278 18:37, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Climate Description[edit]

Thanks for your help in improving the description of climate in the articles. The one thing is that when you’re describing a semi-arid steppe continental climate, you’re basically describing a steppe climate. It’s pretty much the same exact thing in much less words. A continental climate that’s not semi-arid is different from a semi-arid continental climate. Edmonton and Calgary by the way does not fit this description, because under the koppen climate classification they're not semi-arid. (G. Capo (talk) 21:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC))

Climate Description of semi-arid climates[edit]

I now understand where you’re coming from. To show the difference between the two, I tended to term cold semi-arid climates (which tends to be “continental semi-arid climates” or “highland semi-arid climates”) as a steppe (or cold steppe) climate, since people tend to associate steppes with a colder, continental-like climate. It’s also less words. I tended to term the warmer version of the climate as semi-arid as people tend to perceive a semi-arid climate as a borderline hot arid climate. Arid climates are generally perceived as a year-round warm (or warmer) climate. G. Capo (talk) 16:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Answer to your question in the semi-arid discussion section[edit]

I've posted an answer to a question you posted a couple of months ago. G. Capo (talk) 22:00, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Novice unregistrated User talk:[edit]

Novice unregistrated User talk:

I edited some articles concerning the climates of some cities according to scientific sources and classificiation.

But when it comes to arranging climate graph boxes neatly into the pages, I have failed and do not know how to fix it.

Please see the last article en:Mediterranean climate I edited. when it comes to such "technical detail" such as arranging such things, I am really lost. I am a middle aged man born before the "computer generation", and I am still a learner. Could you fix it?

I definately intend to register with Wikipedia.

Thank you very much.

User talk: —Preceding undated comment added 13:03, 1 August 2010 (UTC).

About Ankara's climate and should climate types be linked with vegetation types?[edit]

You explained it well and with reference and I will not challenge it; but the confusion arises (not only me), because Ankara (or other cites like Madrid or Zaragoza) has a treeless steppe vegetation, and steppes are traditionnaly characterized by a semi-arid and also continental climate (the latter that Ankara does indeed have, no doubts about that). But when vegetation is linked with climate types, it does raise question marks. While Ankara's sparse vegetation is definately steppe, the climate as you stated is not classified as "semi-arid". How much, if at all, does or should climate types be linked with vegetation types? Can you "enlighten" me on this?

Thank you very much.

Menikure (User talk:Menikure) —Preceding undated comment added 14:14, 1 August 2010 (UTC).

All I can really say is that climate classification is designed to follow vegetation but it is not perfect. Perhaps the steppe around Ankara is man-made, like the steppe of Hungary, which was forest until the trees were cut down, and now the area is still largely treeless, even though it's definitely not semi-arid. I don't know if the vegetation around Ankara is that way though. Another example of a place on the open steppe (and a natural steppe, not man made) is Calgary, Alberta, Canada. I live in semi-arid southeastern Alberta, and when I drive to Calgary, I see no difference in vegetation. But Calgary receives more precipitation and has a cooler summer than where I live, making less water evaporate, so it is not classified as semi-arid. Again, climate classification is meant to follow vegetation types but it is not perfect. As for how much it 'should" be linked with vegetation types; I don't deal in what "should" or "should not" be, just what is. If we had a system that more closely followed vegetation types, I would prefer it, but the system I and most climatologists use is the best we have for now.
The steppe vegetation of Central Turkey (including Ankara) and of the interior of Turkey in general is (fortunately) natural, although it is extensively grazed and farmed, and thus is the "breadbasket" of the country. Synoptic view of the steppe vegetation of Central. Anatolia (Turkey).
Menikure (User talk:Menikure) 16.36, 1 August 2010 (UTC).

Aden, Alberta[edit]

Either use {{Clear}} or div style, not both, see Template:Infobox weather. Personally, I prefer {clear}, because it will work for all browser window sizes. 117Avenue (talk) 00:08, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

{Clear} moves everything below that may be in the way, which for towns and villages, the infobox is often in the way. Formating the style may look good on one browser, but a different one could put objects on top of each other. 117Avenue (talk) 01:49, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

thank you[edit]

Just to say thanks, that's very kind of you. Editing here is fun anyway. Istanbuljohnm (talk) 01:43, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


Just noticed if you use <div style="width:80%;"> don't forget to close it using </div> or this happens. Scroll down below the infobox. Enter CBW, waits for audience applause, not a sausage. 16:22, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

St. Paul Temperature Range[edit]

LOL, don't worry. You are right though. I knew that some place on Earth would have a more temperature extreme, but it might have a population of, say - 10.... This wasn't a lost cause though, I did not know that Yakutsk was such a large city nearly comparable with Saint Paul. Thanks for the learning experience... Dinkytown (talk) 16:31, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

The prairie[edit]

I learn something new every day! It sounds a bit odd to me, but it looks like you know what you're talking about. Bevo74 (talk) 19:34, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Drass deletion[edit]

Your argument for deleting Drass as the second coldest inhabited place on the planet is in violation of WP-NOR - specifically, you are synthesizing, which is an explicit no-no. I didn't make the Drass statement-up. There are published references on this and I had included one from Lonely Planet. I have no idea where the climate chart for Drass comes from and whether it refers to the valley or the settlement (very distinct things): North India has extensive microclimates: when Delhi swelters at 48C in June, there is a glacier running a few districts (counties) away. I am restoring it with additional references, which are plentiful. Please don't take this personally, but you should limit yourself to referenced material. Feel free to discuss in North India, but do not make changes based on stuff you're cobbling together. Cheers! --Hunnjazal (talk) 03:21, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

I looked into this some more and this is a classic instance of why that policy is needed in the first place. Dras goes to ~ -45C every year and has apparently dipped to -60C as its record. Added refs on this in the article. You cited Winnipeg, Whitehorse, Yellowknife, Dawson City, Inuvik, Fort Nelson, Iqaluit, High Level, International Falls, Prince Albert, Flin Flon, Moosonee, Schefferville, Fairbanks, Astana, Ulan Bator, Khovd, Irkutsk, Ulan-Ude, Yakutsk, Oymyakon, Verkhoyansk as colder. Maybe I am wrong, but as far as I can tell, even with the synthesis approach, only the Siberian locations are colder, which is what the Dras assertions usually say. BTW on Dras valley vs city, I have no idea what their relative temperatures are - just pointing out there are two locations. I will not mention it unless there is a valid (unsynthesized) ref to it. --Hunnjazal (talk) 04:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Osoyoos, BC[edit]

Was hoping you may check-in and share your thoughts... (talk) 16:56, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Cities Climates[edit]

A IP user has been changing the description of some cites climate calcification even though this has all been discussed before I reverted the edits. Just letting you know, you know much more on this topic than I do. I have also left this message with User talk:G. Capo Some examples [1], [2]. Kyle1278 00:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Humid Continental Climate[edit]

You have stated that the likes of Saskatoon and Alberta are classed as this because they aren't dry enough to come under semi-arid. Well, the precipitation levels of Saskatoon are lower than places such as Rapid City and Denver, which are classed as steppe or semi-arid. Why aren't they "humid continental" then? Also, if you insist on this classification, you should add that the term "humid" is a misnomer as it's contradicted in later sentences of the same paragraph in the Calgary article, and it should be differentiated from the genuinely humid climate of further east cities like Chicago, Toronto, New York etc. (talk) 11:06, 02 December 2010 (UTC)

Adding Köppen climate classification to Winnipeg[edit]

Hi ...brettsnyder... Please visit the Talk Page (Climate) for Winnipeg and see what I have added to the discussion. I support your addition. Please contribute to the talk if you wish. :-) --Skol fir (talk) 06:46, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Climate of US cities[edit]

When adding climate info for US cities, consider this link that (usually) gives the normals, extremes, and occurrences for temperature, precipitation, and snow. When a station is included in CLIM20, CLIM20 works better than CLIM81. Good luck

And one more thing... This map is evidence that when calculating "humid" climate thresholds, the number that is added to the multiplied annual temperature does NOT magically rise from 140 to 280 right at 70% precipitation distribution. Clearly, Denver, which (do the math) falls just short of 70% distribution, is marked as being semi-arid. --HXL's Roundtable, and Record 20:58, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Since you prefer this method...
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Climate Maps for Tropical Rainforest and Tropical Monsoon Climate?[edit]

I’ve noticed your excellent work on the climate maps for the desert climate page. I was reviewing the tropical monsoon and tropical rainforest pages and realized they’re currently the only pages under the Koppen System that does not feature maps. Since, I have no idea how to construct a map, I was just wondering if you could either (A) create climate maps for these two pages or if that’s too much trouble (B) teach me how to do it so I’ll create maps for these pages. G. Capo (talk) 22:16, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

These maps are not my work; I found them on Wikimedia Commons. Here is the category page where they can be found: [3] 1brettsnyder (talk) 05:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks so much for your assistance. I've added a couple of new maps G. Capo (talk) 23:08, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Goodland, Kansas[edit]

You change created a big chunk of white space above the table. • SbmeirowTalk • 11:11, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

It depends which browser you are using. The problem with making the table smaller using "div style" is that although the editor resizing the table can make it look nice and fit well in the article when viewed in their browser, this can/will make the table interfere with other templates and text in the article when viewed through a different browser. The "clear" template that I used in place of resizing the table may create large white spaces in some browsers, but it guarantees that there will be no interference between the climate table and other templates and/or text. 1brettsnyder (talk) 20:37, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
Could I suggest moving the climate table further down the page under a new section heading, as I've done with several of the Nebraska articles? This isn't strictly in keeping with WikiProject Counties guidelines; but the articles with white-space problems have such short or nonexistent historic sections that they're not going to achieve GA status anyhow. Moving "Climate" below "Demographics" eliminates the white space; giving it its own section makes it show up in the table of contents, so readers can readily find it. Ammodramus (talk) 01:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
Sounds good. 1brettsnyder (talk) 20:13, 5 May 2013

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