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You may recall I while back I mentioned how hard it was to find things in the Wikipedia namespace. You pointed out to me Wikipedia:Shortcuts. I was wondering if there was also an easy way to search the MediaWiki namespace. Thanks,

Prodego talk 19:40, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Not that I know of (but there always is). BD2412 T 22:21, 24 February 2006 (UTC)


I was wondering if anyone'd be confused by that. Do you like, have an eye for that page or what ;D? ! 05:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I have an eye for all pages! ;) BD2412 T 05:17, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Tame your bot[edit]

Bots should not edit talk pages. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 03:32, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Not a bot, just an AWB-assist. BD2412 T 03:35, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm with you, Joseph. With the number of edits he makes, no way BD2412 could be a human who is gainfully employed as he claims to be. Two things I can't abide are bots or sockpuppets ;-). YesSeptember 12:47, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Now, a bot I can understand, but who would I be a sockpuppet of? Or, more precisely, who would have the time to have another account with this one on deck? BD2412 T 13:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
    • I guess this little joke missed completely, which I suppose it would if you didn't look at my user page. Oh well... :P YesSeptember 15:02, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Come now, BDA, we all know that you are really just a front The Cabal. No human could do as much editting as you do, which makes it obvious that you are really a Backend Distributed Account with dozens of secret puppetmasters working to control Wikipedia through edit count intimidation. Dragons flight 15:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
      • I will crush you all!!!! Muuuaahahahaha!!! I'm not. BD2412 T 15:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


Hi User:BD2412, thanks for signing my talk page. I am going to warn you, I am very new at this and I haven't quite gotten the hang of the editing process and all the codes I am supposed to use.

--Eastlaw 01:32, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

  • You'll get the hang of it - it comes quickly, but if you have any questions, just ask! BD2412 T 02:14, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I work at WP:MF, where we work to find non-compliant mirrors of Wikipedia (and other projects) to improve their compliance. Unfortunately, many (if not most) of these mirrors are non-compliant and the owners/administrators either refuse or do not respond to our request for better compliance. In these cases, we have to contact the ISP or host to stop the mirror's service.

This is where we would like your help. Most ISPs, if not all, take advantage of the DMCA safe harbor provisions and will not accept any claim of copyright violation that is not in the form of a DMCA takedown notice. We have contacted Jimbo Wales and several other people (sj has also posted to juriwiki, yielding nothing), but nobody has agreed to help us. The current maintainers of the page are minors or otherwise uncomfortable with filing a DMCA takedown (which requires revealing your full identity and contact info). Given that you are an (adult) lawyer who has revealed their identity on-wiki, we request your help in sending DMCA takedowns. Though you probably know this:

A standard DMCA requires the following.

  1. an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the trademark or other intellectual property interest;
  2. a description of the copyright that you claim has been infringed;
  3. a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the site;
  4. your address, telephone number, and email address;
  5. a statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law;
  6. a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your Notice is accurate and that you are the trademark or intellectual property owner or authorized to act on the trademark or intellectual property owner's behalf.

We have a standard notice in progress, which you should feel free to edit. If you are able to help, please let us know at Wikipedia talk:Mirrors and forks. Thank you. -- WB 02:27, 7 February 2006 (UTC) (edited as WB suggested Superm401 - Talk 05:05, 7 February 2006 (UTC))

Thanks for the reply. I hope you can help us soon. We have been in a deadlock for a while because of this. -- WB 01:25, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Are you able to help us with DMCA yet? Thank you. -- WB 20:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to, but they're keeping me damn busy at work - should let up when the two cases I'm on roll over, tho... BD2412 T 14:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Interesting concept:[edit]

If I say, "this statement is false", then I've said something true, which makes it false, which makes it true ad infinitum, kind of like if I went back in time and killed my grandparents, then I wouldn't exist to kill them in the first place. I am going to write these down, anymore weird ideas like this? Lord Of Nothing 23:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah, now you're contrasting the liar paradox with the grandfather paradox - which leads to all kinds of stuff on time travel and portable holes... BD2412 T 23:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice[edit]

HI BD2412. Thanks for the pointers on editing. I apologize for being so slow about writing these articles, but I have been a bit under the weather lately, plus I recently started a new internship (so I've been pretty busy). I'm still working on the Burford v. Sun Oil Co. article, and I plan on finishing it over the weekend (and hopefuly getting a couple of others done too).


--Eastlaw 02:33, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome. It inspired me to create a user account. Hopefully I will be able to contribute well to the growth of Wikipedia from now on - Steve355

Tep and a lawyer too?[edit]

Damn, you're a TEP and a lawyer too? Way to go. If you're looking for any other TEP lawyers, there's quite a collection including some of the more prominent names in Florida Trial Law. Let me know if you're interested in any contacts. SWATJester Flag of Iceland.svg Ready Aim Fire! 04:21, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Commons User:BD24122[edit]

Hi, just checking that you are Commons:User:BD24122. If not, there's an amazingly good vandal impersonating you there! User:dbenbenn 01:29, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

  • For the moment, I am indeed Commons:User:BD24122. Are you making the swap? BD2412 T 01:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Wait 5 minutes. User:dbenbenn 01:36, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
      • 5 whole minutes! D'oh!!! BD2412 T 01:38, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
        • Done now. Please, try to be more careful with your password this time. I don't want to see a BD24123 in a week! User:dbenbenn 01:42, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

No Comments[edit]

I don't understand why you delete posts left on your page. You seem to enjoy posting to others, however you are quick to remove one's posted on your page. Seems a little hypocritical don't you think?

You are most definitely NOT a trial Attorney. You stated the following "I'm removing posts right away because there's a notice at the top of my page that says "Please do not post messages here during my absence unless you have an emergency". Granted, I'm not all that absent, but I'm trying to be."

What ?? You are removing the posts because you created a notice and placed it at the top of your page requesting users not to post messages during your absence. It is to my understanding that these user pages are a venue for ongoing conversations/messages that may be posted and viewed by others. The "owner" of the page (you) is not required to be "present" for users to post or view messages. Additionally, you also stated a concern of “cluttering”.

If your page was large in content then your claim of "cluttering", as you mentioned, would be understandable. But since your page is not large in content and you are not required to be present for users to post messages, then your removal of the posts is something other than what you have claimed. What University did you attend??....LOL Rawhide4u 17:11, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Ah, I see you're cleverly responding to the notice on my talk page by declaring that it means something other than what it plainly says, then attacking this faux meaning. It does not say that the page is cluttered, but rather that "I'd rather not have this page get cluttered" (emphasis added). Your analysis is akin to saying that throwing garbage on an otherwise empty road is not "littering" because there was no litter there already, and the intent of the law is to prevent the road from becoming "littered". You will note if you check my page history that I have been fairly quick to archive comments posted on my talk page during my self-imposed effort to temper my Wikipedia addiction (I've taken a few vacations during this time, by the way, where I was unable to check my page at all for several days). As I mentioned before, I am not deleting comments, I am archiving them. For your convenience, I have posted links to my archives on my talk page.
If you're concerned that viewers will not be able to see our conversations, you are welcome to keep them on your own talk page, or direct them to my archive (although they will only be able to see what was posted on my talk page there, as that is all I ever archive). I prefer to keep conversations all in one place. Hope this clears things up! BD2412 T 17:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
    • I will say that I have grown to enjoy your company....LOL Your analogy (throwing garbage on an otherwise empty road is not "littering" because there was no litter there already) is extremely poor. The purpose of a road is not to collect garbage unlike the user page is to collect messages. Additionally, for an area to become "cluttered", as you stated, it must first contain items. So, to save myself the trouble, I will leave it at that. The University of yours is looking better every moment….LOLRawhide4u 17:52, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Hmmm, your suggestion that I'm a hypocrite for wanting to keep my talk page clean, and snarky disparging references to my University seem intended to get a rise out of me. Sorry, I won't indulge. Have a nice day. BD2412 T 19:16, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
      • No harm intended.....lite fun is all. My apologies!!Rawhide4u 19:22, 23 April 2006 (UTC)


Hi. I haven't had a chance to look at the dispute between RawhideU and yourself. I'm currently mediating another dispute that came before Rawhide's request. I hope to get to your case soon. I suspect it's merely a misunderstanding. best, -- Joebeone (Talk) 20:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)


Why am I getting a welcome message a few months after signing up? I just got one on my talk page from you.Pokemega32 22:58, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Welcome II[edit]

Hey BD2412, thanks for welcoming me!! Hope I can contribute some more in the future (and that there will be enough people here to clean up my English mistakes ;) --esmi 16:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for welcoming me just now. Impressive reaction time you've got, since I'd only set the name up about 15 minutes before. I've been editing for about 2 years under another name; felt like a change. I look forward to your speedy archiving of this note! Pilcrow 16:55, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Think I'll let this one sit for a while, now that I'm off my Wikibreak. Cheers! BD2412 T 16:59, 27 April 2006 (UTC)


Welcome back from your break. Now you can go back to doing ten times as many edits as I do, instead of just twice as many ;-). NoSeptember talk 17:01, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll get right on it. :-) BD2412 T 17:03, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi, I just got some welcome messages from you. Thanks. --Ashycool 17:12, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Noooo problem. BD2412 T 17:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

On The Seals[edit]

I just thought that you'd be in a better position to judge what is and is not "fair use", seeing as how your are a professional intellectual property lawyer and all. I do question though, the idea that those institutions actually can sue wikipedia. I find it especially absurd that they would even have a case, since you were highlighting them as an alumnus in a positive light. In any event, I think your page looked nicer with the seals. BTW, why isn't it "fair-use" to use "fair-use" stuff on a private, non-profit userpage? Why would a company even waste it's time suing? This policy just seems needlessly broad (I wish our servers were in California, I find the 9th Circuit seems to issue more common sense rulings). --Dragon695 23:24, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

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BDA, you lost your seals? We can't have that! I award you some non-Florida seals to replace your Florida seals :-). NoSeptember talk 23:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
In my opinion (as an IP lawyer), my use on my user page of the seals representing the University and program from which I graduated constitutes a fair use, as they are intended to educate the user as to my affiliation with those things. The AmeriCorps logo, quite frankly, should be in the public domain, having been designed on behalf of the U.S. government. However, I am not wedded to stability - I'll find images that are inarguably in the public domain... or better yet, I'll hold a contest: Whosoever shall suggest the best image for use on my userpage shall win the coveted Golden Blarney Award, which I just made up, and which will also be in the public domain once I figure out what one looks like. Images must be no bigger than 200 px. square. This offer has no cash value. Cheers! BD2412 T 01:53, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Please keep in mind that the governing issue here isn't just copyright law. It is also the Wikimedia Foundation's policy, which explicitly prevents the use of fair use images in userspace. Quoting WP:FUC #9: "All other uses, even if legal under the fair use clauses of copyright law, should be avoided to keep the use of unfree images to a minimum". If anyone wishes to change this policy, then by all means please do by petitioning the foundation. I have no wedded interest in preventing fair use images from existing in userspace except to follow the foundation's policy that they feel is best suited to protecting them against copyright claims. If they should change their stance such that fair use images were allowed in userspace, it would be fine with me and I would not longer remove them from userspace. --Durin 02:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Old friend, you are correct. Just as I strive to perfect my adherence to policy, so will I strive to perfect the policy. BD2412 T 02:59, 29 April 2006 (UTC)


Hey, appreciate your welcome. I have been using Wikipedia for some time, making minor edits as a guest, decided to log in as a user. All best, eh (yup, I am a Canadian!)Lmci 03:14, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks for logging in - glad you feel welcome! BD2412 T 04:10, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

A little late, but still a welcome welcome[edit]

Thanks, B.D., for your welcome following my edit of the Theistic evolution article. Actually, I've been a contributor, though a rather desultory one, for 4½ years now. I contributed the original article on Edward Elgar, in 2001 (he said with a certain note of pride). We didn't have anyone looking over our shoulders in those innocent early days. But please don't get me wrong - I'm very glad that we now have people like yourself patrolling the streets!

Jmc 00:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

yo, i gotz yo back 2, holmez. REPRESENT.[edit]

BDA, much respect to you for tracking down the IPs. I owe you much favors, homie. let me know if the Ghetteaux can help you out. --Ghetteaux 10:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

New guy has two questions[edit]

Thank you for welcoming me to the Wikiverse--and since you mentioned it, I do have a couple of nagging questions:

1) The style manual says that words & phrases should be Wikilinked only if they are "relevant" to the subject of article. But how to determine relevance? Take, for example, the Dennis Lehane page where you found me. I linked Dorchester (provides the setting for many of his books) & The Wire (a current Lehane effort with an existing Wiki listing), because they seemed specifically relevant to the author's life & career. On the other hand, I unlinked New York Times (from the phrase New York Times-bestseller) because the link seemed gratuitous, with nothing particular to do with Lehane or his novels.

Is there some standard or guideline for making this decision? Is there some incisive question I can ask myself each time I'm trying figure out whether to link or not to link?

2) There seem to be two prevailing styles when it comes to listing authors' works:

  • [year] [title]


  • [title] ([year])

Is one preferred over the other? Personally I prefer the latter, but I can see why some would like it the other way. And, returning to the question above: Wikilink each year beside a title, or not? I find all those links distracting & unnecessary, although I can see why it would be a good idea to link the dates of forthcoming books using the [[As of XXXX]] form.

My thanks in anticipation of your answers. ShelfSkewed 06:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

You have answers, I have gratitude![edit]

Thanks again for your prompt answers. And my apologies for using the term "Wikiverse". I merely meant it, of course, as a playful conflation of Wikipedia and universe; I didn't know at the time that there is site by that name that mirrors and (apparently) abuses Wikipedia material. Bad me <slap on wrist>.ShelfSkewed 04:43, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Happiness is the key to not being eaten by the Robot Overlord[edit]

Hi BD[edit]

I am a newcomer to editing Wiki, although I have read it for some time. I am a 2003 grad of Univ of Miami. Congrats on your recent graduation. When I started law school, FIU didn't yet have a law school. I sure wished it had!! Although, UM is a very good law school. I have been reading the "Movement to Impeach" W with interest. molly bloom 03:58, 17 May 2006 (UTC)


I modified the page accordingly as it was broken on my browser. I hope you dont mind. :) --Cat out 22:36, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix, and for the notice of it! Cheers! BD2412 T 22:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
In return may I ask for a small favor. If interested I have two lists I'd like to have copy edited. I have been staring it for soo long I no longer see the mistakes... You know how it goes...
Articles are FMA list (FLC) Planetes list (FLC)
--Cat out 22:49, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Will do in about an hour - have to finish a draft reply to an appeal, and go pick up the missus. Cheers! BD2412 T 22:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

To Syrthiss...[edit]

The flaming orb of gratitude.

I hereby bestow this flaming orb of gratitude upon Syrthiss for swiftly repairing anon vandalism to my userpage and talk page. BD2412 T 18:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Master Jay (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA)[edit]

Hello BDA, could you do me a favor and explain to Master Jay that the blocking policy does not allow for IP blocks over a month. See [1] and [2]. I already left a message for him a while ago, and he said he would limit his blocks to a month, but he apparently hasn't. Please keep all communication with him on wiki, contact me via e-mail if you would like to know why.

Prodego talk 22:34, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

BD, I received your message. Sure thing. Regards, Jay(Reply) 01:34, 24 May 2006 (UTC).


Looking for a little more privacy, Mr. 2412? Dragons flight 07:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

  • A little more, yes - too much Wiki-life has been leaking into real lives for my tastes. BD2412 T 07:09, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Strangely, I am seriously considering doing the opposite, i.e. revealing who I am and trying to use wiki life to enhance real life. Dragons flight 08:06, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
      • It depends, I suppose, on the degree to which real life can be thrown out of balance by the invasion of Wikilife, yes? BD2412 T 08:26, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
        • Yeah, in real life, being a wikipedian may seem a bit eccentric for me, but commitment to knowledge is a good thing and I don't think it could impact my employment (fingers crossed). Dragons flight 08:45, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
          • Don't do it, DF, you never know what the future will hold... you may get another job sometime. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:42, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Do you hold the record for name changee with the most edits? And what is the significance of 2412? Best of luck having us remember your number ;-). NoSeptember talk 09:46, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
  • ;-) Nice plan. I wish you hadn't lost the A in your name though, now you're not BDA. Prodego talk 14:17, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
    • Told you I had a plan! ;-) Here's an easy way to remember the number - it's just the numeric value of BDAb... Cheers! BD2412 T 15:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
      • And here I thought you were bragging about editing wikipedia 24 hours a day / 12 months a year ;-). NoSeptember talk 17:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
    • The numeric value in what? I tried the obvious ways, but I don't see how you get 2412. Prodego talk 17:15, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
      • hint: D is the 4th letter of the alphabet :-). NoSeptember talk 17:21, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
    • *whacks self* I was looking for it to start from A, and that the BD was already there (in letter form). Prodego talk 17:51, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
      • That'll take some getting used to. But don't you think anyone who types User:BD------- into search or clicks on an old signature will freak? CanadianCaesar Cæsar is turn’d to hear 18:23, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
        • We should block that name and put this note on the page: "This user's edits have been erased by an oversight functionary." That would really freak out any visitors when they see he's only got 3 edits left ;-). NoSeptember talk 19:38, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
    • There are clues. Prodego talk 18:44, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Now you see the magnificence of my related talk archiving system, it maintains links to pages that have been deleted :-). NoSeptember talk 19:13, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I should know...[edit]

about... ze change? As if thousands of mysql ID columns cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced? --Interiot 05:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Boy that was a lot of work...[edit]

Cheers! -- DS1953 talk 01:03, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

By the way, I have a copyright on the two letter, four number combo sig, so you'll be getting a letter from my lawyer. Oops, I forgot about WP:NLT. I meant my lawyer will write to commend you on your excellent choice... -- DS1953 talk 01:30, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


You try and make me get a new subpage for the voters, under a new name! SOCKPUPPETRY! OMGomg! WTF! TLA! ARG! LOL!... 04:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't know... it might be worth it... Also, the NJSC page I've been annoying you over is on FAC now, if you want to look @ it... 05:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


good to hear it! I was afraid you'd decided to become an ex-Wikipedian! So...what's with the new user name? Grutness...wha? 04:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note[edit]

Thanks for the note. I was relatively inactive for much of the month of May and that may continue for a while. I thought I would get more into Wikipedia after tax season ended; instead, I became even more diverted by "real life" stuff, etc. In February and March I think I was averaging 15 to 17 edits per day (not much for some people, but a lot for me) and I guess my average is down a bit now. I do intend to get back to editing on tax-related articles, especially the Brushaber case and the tax protester stuff we've been talking about. It may be a while before I get back to the level of activity I was at before. I think I'm in a period of burnout right now, or something. Yours, Famspear 13:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Any activity from you, my friend, is a boon to the encyclopedia. Just don't throw too much time after the loony crowd. BD2412 T 20:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Here is something for you[edit]

BD, I have decided to take a wikibreak and didn't want to leave the key to the asylum laying around where the inmates might find it. Since you are the most sane person I have run into, I am entrusting it to you. Good luck! -- DS1953 talk 15:12, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Ok, I'll put it right in my pocket - and guard it with my life. BD2412 T 20:11, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

On emails response[edit]

As I hoped... still, probably gave yet another grey hair, 'tho 'is understandable forsooth! FrankB 15:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)


Your here! Ian13/talk 17:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Here I am, indeed. BD2412 T 20:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Adding my Yey. I too was afraid you were on your way to be an exwikipedian. :/ Syrthiss 20:18, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Never! BD2412 T 20:36, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Whats new[edit]

Well I haven't left you any messages in a while, as I have been busy, so let me tell you what is new:

  1. I am one of the RfCU clerks during this programs trial run
  2. I am in the process of starting a trial run of subpages for WP:RfCU, see User:Prodego/sandbox
  3. I am a moderator of a new vandal fighting program, VandalProof, which currently has over 400 users

In news not related to me: Moe Eplison is back, after he left he edited as User:DGX, and has now returned to his main account. A Quasi-protection policy was proposed, but seems destined to fail, and a new privilege Oversight, was set up, and granted to Special:Listusers/oversight by arbcom. Any thing new for you? Prodego talk 20:58, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Err Wha? Prodego talk 21:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I Would Like Help[edit]

I thought I posted this, but it I could not find it on your page. Thank you for your message. Do you mean that you want me to leave four tildes on the article's discussion page or also say what changes I made? I'm not sure how to do either, but I hope I did not do anything tactless or controversial. Minutiaman 21:10, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

The numbers game[edit]

Hey when did this happen, and what's the relevance? Signing off, CSCWEM1200

  • It's a code. :-) No, seriously I was just too far out with personal info. Cheers! BD2412 T 12:47, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, who are you????[edit]

Oh wait... :) Seriously, I was surprised you ever had the courage to use that other handle, given the world in which we live, but I hope nothing sinister motivated the change. If I may ask, why 2412? Best wishes, Xoloz 02:54, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Straight numeric value of BDAb... BD2412 T 12:48, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
But wouldn't that mean it is now "BDBDAb"? ;-) --You Know Who (Dark Mark) 02:15, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Look! A talking tree! (runs away). BD2412 T 02:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
I think BD183 or BD56677 would be more wiki relevant names. NoSeptember 02:30, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Or I could change it to NoSeptenber and really confuse people! BD2412 T 02:32, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
We don't want to confuse (or misspell), we want to send a message (even if it is self promotion) ;-). NoSeptember 02:38, 8 June 2006 (UTC)


It's in User: space, but not User_talk: space! 03:26, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanx for fixing that dude. Also I reverted so people's actuall discussion with me over accounts are still on the talk page. Having to segregate ANY discussion about accounts would likely confuse most people who just hit the "+" and drop a comment. Thanx for the new page anyway, I had throughly forgotten about it ;D! 03:31, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Yea, everything's getting to be too long. I'm surprised noone's objected to my FAC because it's over 32K! Thanx for the move and putting up with all the confusion. 03:37, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


Per a request on Wikipedia:Deceased Wikipedians, I'm trying to find out if anyone knows what happened to User:David91. He stopped editing around April 12, 2006, when he was admitted to the hospital for some tests. He possibly lived in Singapore (likely in or near Ang Mo Kio which he edited 3 times--but with enough detail to suggest a strong familiarity with the place), and was probably the oldest Wikipedian at the age of 94 (based on a reference from 2003 when he said he was 91). Based on his numerous contributions in law it is possible he was a retired lawyer of some kind. He also contributed to linguistics, sociology, and science fiction articles. He was part of Wikipedia:WikiProject International law (though it didn't really get off the ground) and he made nearly 5000 edits. He evidently was also a well-respected member of other Internet communities he was involved in during his retirement. Any information on David91 would be appreciated. Thanks, --Alabamaboy 13:26, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

  • This is sad news - I'm afraid I do not know how to make such a determination, as I never knew his real name... I have no knowledge of his status. BD2412 T 18:31, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Name issues[edit]

I am responding to a name change request, and as a precaution, if you are the user requesting a name change to User:BD2412 on another project, simply make a note of confirmation on my talk page here. ~ Kalki 18:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Yes - I have made this request across all projects. Thanks! BD2412 T 19:19, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

'fixing sig' in old RfA's[edit]

An RfA is a record of a community decision. When they are closed, they should remain closed. Your old account voted in these elections, not your new one. Changing the sigs to point to your new account corrupts the record of these decisions. Please leave closed RfA's out of your AWB script for changing the sig. -Mask Flag of Alaska.svg 01:41, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I disagree. Because the edits were transferred over, this is the account that voted, and the edit history of those RfAs will already point to this account. I also think we should support his reasons for the name change, and understand that they outweigh whatever slight historical value there may be in preserving just what BD called himself at a given time. Postdlf 01:49, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I am not merely adjusting signatures to a newly opened account; my username has changed, and no longer matches the name that shows up in the edit history - indeed, if maintaining the record was of such over-riding importance, it would be impossible to change the edit history itself, which is a far more reliable record than what is on the page itself. I am already 2/3 of the way through these changes, and it would be pointless to stop now, and as Postdlf has pointed out, I have a legitmate privacy interest that outweighs the slight value of maintaing an obsolete account name that will soon point to a redlinked user page and talk page. BD2412 T 01:57, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Sounds right to me. But wow, what a rampage you're tearing through my watchlist :-) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 02:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Long after the fact edits on otherwise inactive pages always draw attention to themselves, at least they do to me, so this solution was not perfect (but then no solution is). NoSeptember 04:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Whoops, didn't realize you had changed usernames, thought it was just a new account. In that case, my bad, and good luck :) -Mask Flag of Alaska.svg 03:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

I see that you've changed usernames for privacy reasons... I must say that it's disappointing that you've had to come to this. enochlau (talk) 03:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
You may recall that Gator1 resigned after a vandal contacted his employer to complain about a block. Well, I've picked up a "secret admirer" of my own... BD2412 T 03:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Who is it? Feel free to e-mail me if you don't want to state it on here. Postdlf 04:20, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Cmon, who else has a blindingly yellow background in their sig? Anyway, I've been inspired to try a new name as well. --0x845FED 04:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Eh, there's one or two others... besides, I'm going to bring in a new sig before long... how about this?
B D 2 4 1 2

Not bad, eh? Although I did promise TenOfAllTrades I'd never use it, so... BD2412 T 04:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

You need to have the colors "marching on" ;D! 12:44, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd say that sig is almost there. To really complete the effect, each letter should link to some subpage, though. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 04:47, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I might lose my spleen through my nostrils if you actually use that sig. Ack. :) --0x845FED 04:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
You know, I've advocated a strict character limit on sigs in the past... BD2412 T 04:52, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

So we're having a competition, eh? Here's my entry: BD2412

NoSeptember 04:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Actually, I'm thinking of going with BD2412≈±

At least you had the same idea of differentiating the 24 from the 12... but those colors :P. NoSeptember 05:00, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

You guys are thinking small: Semaphore Bravo.svgSemaphore Delta.svgSemaphore Bravo.svgSemaphore Delta.svgSemaphore Alpha.svgSemaphore Bravo.svgBunchofgrapes (talk) 05:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
He likes background colors so much, maybe he should just sign like this: BD2412 T... NoSeptember 05:28, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I prefer BD2412(?!?). Titoxd(?!?) 05:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Our archives[edit]

Fine with us, we understand what's going on (and sorry it came to that - geesh). ;-) --hydnjo talk 01:14, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Your understanding is much appreciated. I should be done with this task before too long. BD2412 T 01:18, 12 June 2006 (UTC) thousand twelve - one thousand thirteen - one thousand fourteen - one thousand... --hydnjo talk 01:30, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
More like four thousand twelve - four thousand thirteen - four thousand fourteen - BD2412 T 01:32, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
ahh, should have realized that a law-year was much more prolific than we ever imagined! ;-)) --hydnjo talk 01:42, 12 June 2006 (UTC)


Thank you very much for the barnstar BD, it was very much appreciated. Cheers -- Ianblair23 (talk) 05:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

  • It was well deserved! BD2412 T 05:41, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Replace a noncommercial image for me?[edit]

MassachusettsMarshalCrest.png {{PD-self}} to replace Image:Ma-crest.gif? Please? Derived from Image:Flag of Massachusetts.svg which is PD also. Thanx 12:43, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

HAHAHHA! I'm going to have to add that to the "Awards" page! Anyway, thanx for the upload ;D! 11:49, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Only fair[edit]

If I deserve a barnstar, you deserve a billion of 'em, wiki-hero!
Xoloz 18:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

More PDness[edit]

(I see your note about busyness, these can wait untill you have some spare time). I've got some more PD pics for various articles. Whenever you're not too busy, if you can upload them and let me know. Thanx again. 17:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I have done so. Thanx dude. 12:36, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


I've made the clarifications on all the uploaded images and have given the "StateHouse!" a more descriptive name. Thanx for all the uploads, especially the one's that'd been sitting there for ages! 21:04, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

  • Done. BD2412 T 21:43, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
"woot"; thanx dude. 21:53, 14 June 2006 (UTC)