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Adding to anarchism related pages[edit]

Hello, I've noticed a number of your edits to anarchist related pages and especially to the Anarchism in the United States page. I've been looking to contribute and create pages related to historic and contemporary organizations in the US but I've had difficulty. I was hoping to start with a page on Black Rose Anarchist Federation but a moderator flagged it lack of notability and it was deleted - though you can find a German language entry ironically. But I found this very troubling as when you go to the American Socialism template for active and defunct parties, there are numerous examples of small (some larger) organizations with few references outside of their own internal documents and somehow these manage to avoid deletion. It appears to be a double standard. Any advice? Aweaver81 (talk) 20:40, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Aweaver81, thanks for reaching out. The primary obstacle to your case is sourcing. I think my summary at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Rose Anarchist Federation does a decent job, but the gist is that as a tertiary source, we need reliable, secondary sources to paraphrase: articles from mainstream newspapers, magazines, blogs, and alt weeklies with editorial oversight. Without that, we'd have to resort to primary and affiliated sourcing, which is closer to original research. The histories of these contemporary orgs have yet to be reliably written, as far as I've seen, but as book chapters and similar overviews of these orgs are eventually written, we can eventually revisit whether the sources are sufficient for us to do justice to the topic. Until then, we use the few reliable sources we have to expand summary style in the Anarchism in the United States article.
As for applying this standard globally, WP is too big to address everything at once, so the refrain usually goes, "other stuff exists", meaning that some of those socialist parties may require redirection or deletion too. Each article is judged on its own merits. Feel free to run any past me here for feedback. As for de:Black Rose Anarchist Federation, the same logic applies, but I'd add that each language WP has its own rules. Some might be more stringent than others with notability. Others are most likely just waiting for someone to notice and raise the articles for discussion.
If you find additional reliable, secondary sources for Black Rose, let's discuss and I can help to restore. czar 02:48, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your response and I'll continue to search for additional sources. Another new one is this quote: “Groups like the Black Rose Anarchist Federation and the May 1 Anarchist Alliance, with their articulated principles and explicit strategies, are hardly typical of anarchism as a while.” which appears in Whither Anarchism by Kristian Williams (AK Press) P 25 Link. But I also would take up the challenge that a great deal of entries for defunct and current left organizations would not meet the criteria of secondary sources that describe the group beyond mentioning their existence. I have observed this previously in my research but I hope to compile notes to make the point that anarchist organizations are being held to a higher standard than socialist organization. Aweaver81 (talk) 12:58, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

@Aweaver81, you'll want sources that go into depth on the subject, as it's nigh impossible to do justice to a topic by stringing together brief mentions and asides. Another alternative is to expand from the extant sources in Contemporary anarchism (without going top-heavy on US-specific recent history) alongside Anarchism in the United States. As for the latter claim on preferential treatment, in the last year, I've addressed hundreds of cleanup tags that had been placed on anarchism-related articles over the past decade. That no one has done the same for the socialist orgs is not a matter of prejudice but of editor will. My advice—in the grand Wikipedia tradition of direct action—is to be the one to clean their cobwebs, spruce up their sourcing, or redirect to their parent articles, as that would be more productive than simply compiling examples, as you mention. Happy to help with whatever you find. czar 03:33, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Recreation of David Michigan at David Michigan (fitness trainer)[edit]

Hi. You deleted David Michigan after an AfD and subsequently protected the page. It has been recently recreated at David Michigan (fitness trainer). It looks better than previous versions but I thought I'd check with you before moving it back to the base name. Thanks. Tassedethe (talk) 22:15, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

@Tassedethe, hm. I've moved it just to keep the edit history in one place, but it is not long for this world. The refs are still trash, very promotional. If this isn't a recurrence of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Raju Adhikari/Archive (prior creators of this article were blocked there), I'd certainly take it to Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard for an opinion on the promotionalism and close coordination with this Commons user. Pinging admins from the SPI for an opinion: @Ivanvector and GeneralizationsAreBad. czar 22:37, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm glad I checked. I didn't notice the SPI. Thanks. Tassedethe (talk) 22:56, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
 Checkuser needed for Gernmaniul (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · checkuser (log)) - their version of David Michigan is suspiciously similar to this one (admins only) by Kalamya (talk · contribs).
I looked into it some, and I'm pretty sure this account is a sock but I can't determine which case. Possibilities include Raju Adhikari or INeverCry based on this article's history and overlaps on other articles, although both of those cases give reason to believe this account would have been detected in past checks. Another possibility is a case which DeltaQuad identified as "Belize-India group" but I don't know which case that is. They're clearly editing promotionally, regardless. Please share any info you're able to. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:22, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
clock In progress.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:41, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
@Ivanvector:. Gernmaniul is  Unrelated to Antonykna (talk · contribs · count) and to INeverCry. The Belize-India socks I found are  Stale.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:04, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Bbb23. @Czar and Tassedethe: I suggest you follow up through COIN. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:12, 11 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, all. Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard#David Michigan czar 03:20, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day[edit]

Edit day.svg Happy First Edit Day, Czar', from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Kpgjhpjm (talk) 17:28, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Question about your revert of my revision on Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels[edit]

Hi, Czar.
Regarding your revert of my revision on Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels, I didn’t think that Super Mario All-Stars was an emulation, which is why I added the release dates to the infobox. What makes it an emulation? Interqwark talk contribs 03:03, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Actually not sure on the emulation part but in any event, it isn't a dedicated port/release since it's part of a compilation. The infobox is meant to collect major releases. czar 03:08, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Greek anarchism[edit]

Hello friend. In Greece the name of Konstantinos Speras is well known. We can make his article in WP again correctly because the previous one had a lot of promblems. But please, friend dont delete the sources that proves that he became a well known fascist. If you have any objections about it, and you believe lies that communist forces killed him (or cut off his head) cause he was an antistalinist socialist i will be very pleased to give you full proofs that he was fascist. Just check the bibliography of Greek article and request book and page. Best regards --Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 16:32, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Αντικαθεστωτικός, thanks for the note. Could you please share a scan of those sources—Nuvola apps email.svg mail me or link here? (I'm trying to determine the quality of the sources.) czar 10:33, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

1 Speras in 1926 as a witness in court against (all) the leadership of KKE, and he accuses them of nation traitors(with the possibility to have death penalty). Not stalinists in the leadership of KKE then but Pandelis Pouliopoulos.

2 Speras as hero of Greek fascists. (dont believe what he writes cause he dont have proofs for everything, he make from his mind many things)

3 Speras with the allias of "Greek worker" wrote the history of "Greek workers" in the fascist newspaper in the logic of worker fascist logic.

4 A greek right wing minor historian (but with many famous publications with good archive) wrote "ΑΝΔΡΕΑΣ ΚΟΝΔΑΚΗΣ. Επρόκειτο για αξιωματικό σε π.δ., ο οποίος ήταν πρόεδρος της Συνομοσπονδίας Παλαιών Πολεμιστών.[...] (Ν. Καλύβας, Ε. Ευαγγέλου, Κ. Σπέρας),. He writes about an army official who collabarate with the axis, and he had a circle of trade unionists between them...Speras. The first one Kalyvas, was in 1944 by nazis, a minister. He was killed by OPLA.

There is a lot of staff in Greek. But the big deal is that in 2018 noone says the opposite side. Only one left guy Stinas said before 30 years that Speras was an anarchist, in his memoirs he said a lot of lies and he did a lot of copy paste from anticommunist propaganda!Because he had very anger cause, stalinists killed his friends.

There is a lot of noise about him in greek internet maybe from his relatives, but after the last publication of Kostopoulos (a well known left journalist) who he just repeat what greek wikipedia wrote the conversation is ended for sure.

Απόστολος Κοκμάδης was an young army official who has give interviews and he says about the end of Speras. They were together and they went to fight against National Liberation Front (Greece). Κοκμάδης later became an officer of the army of communists, while Speras executed. Not beheaded. Not killed by OPLA as the "red terror" want. In Greece there was a ridiculus myth for years that Communist Army (ELAS) was good, but Communist police (OPLA) was bad. New historians proved that as good and as bad was ELAS so was OPLA. So Speras wasnt killed by OPLA as the myth wanted for not to blame the good face ELAS army, but from Orestis a prominent "captain" of ELAS.

Just to say that Avraam Benaroya and Yannis Kordatos insist that he was police informant from 1925. Was Avraam Benaroya or Kordatos a stalinist? I dont think so. --Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 12:26, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Αντικαθεστωτικός, from what I understand, you're interpreting those sources as proof that Speras identified as a fascist. That would be fine if you were a historian making a claim in your own book, but with Wikipedia, we don't make original claims like that. Instead we cite secondary sources (such as historians) who make those claims for us. So do you have a reliable, secondary source that you can quote as explicitly having said that "Speras became a fascist"? If not, we unfortunately cannot make that claim until we have a reliable source to paraphrase. By the way, I have a friend who can help with translations from Greek if need be. Appreciate your patience, czar 16:27, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
czar No. I dont say that. I gave you the sources of the archives to understand what was happened and to find the truth alone if you want, cause there is a little deny that he was facsict. For wikipedia rules: Three historians are saying that he was a Fascist. Hondromatidis, Kostopoulos and Koukounas. I gave the 2 sources in the article. Case closed for Wikipedia. Hondromatidis is saying that he was a member of Fascist party of 1936.
Hondromatidis, had written a book about Greek fascists. See the list of the Fascists.
--Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 19:18, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
@Αντικαθεστωτικός, great—I expanded the citation:

Chondromatidēs, Iakōvos P (2013). Ο αναρχικός Κωνσταντίνος Σπέρας [About the Anarchist Konstantinos Speras]. Hoi Hellēnes 'phasistes': hoi phasistikes kai ethnikososialistikes organōseis stēn Hellada tou Mesopolemou (1927–1936) Οι Έλληνες «Φασίστες». Οι Φασιστικές και Εθνικοσοσιαλιστικές οργανώσεις στην Ελλάδα του Μεσοπολέμου (1927–1936) [The Greek "Fascists": Fascist and National Socialist Organizations in Interwar Greece (1927–1936)] (in Greek). Pelasgus. p. 161. ISBN 978-960-522-356-4. OCLC 899259825. 

Can you scan page 161 for me and quote the part that says Speras became a member of Mercouris's party? czar 20:18, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Right now i dont have the book of Hondromatidis. But as you see he has written a book of Greek Fascists, and he was in a chapter the case of "anarchist" Speras. Right now i have the book of Kostopoulos of 2016. In Greek : Στη πραγματικότητα, ο Σπέρας ήδη από τα μέσα της δεκαετίας του 1920 είχε ταυτιστεί δημόσια με τους διωκτικούς κρατικούς μηχανισμούς, καταθέτοντας ως μάρτυρας κατηγορίας στη δίκη ηγεσίας ου ΚΚΕ για το Μακεδονικό επί Πάγκαλου κι αυτοπροβαλλόμενος σαν <<προιστάμενος του συνδέσμου των συντηρητικών εργατών>> . Το 1934 μετείχε στα εγκαίνια των γραφείων του Εθνικοσοσιαλιστικού κόμματος στην εφημερίδα του οποίου αρθογραφούσε, [page 150 ends] ενώ το 1936 εμφανίζεται ως παράγοντας μιας <<Εθνικής Συντηρητικής Οργάνωσεως>>. Αξίζει ν' αναφερθεί ότι, σε αντίθεση με τους φόνους των τροτσκιστών που έμειναν κατά κανόνα αδικδήκητοι ο κατοχικος Ριζοσπάστης δεν είχε κανένα πρόβλημα για την αιχμαλωσία του <<καθάρματος Σπέρα>> από το 34ο σύνταγμα του ΕΛΑΣ, ως εξουδετέρωση κατασκόπου σταλμένου <<Από την ομάδα Λαζαρή του ΕΔΕΣ>>

In a footnote Kostopoulos writes: Ο Λαζαρής υπήρξε πρόεδρος του αθηναικού παραρτήματος της Φασιστικής ΕΕΕ. translate : In fact, since the middle of the 1920s, Speras was publicly identified with the persecution of the state apparatuses, as a witness of accusation against the KKE leadership trial of the Macedonian during Pangalos dictatorship and self-proclaimed as "the headmaster of the conservative workers' union." In 1934 he participated in the opening of the offices of the National Socialist Party in whose newspaper he wrote, and in 1936 appeared as a factor of a << National Conservative Organization >>. It is worth mentioning that, unlike the Trotskyist killings that were generally unclaimed (my disclaimer: from the Stalinists of KKE), the Rizospastis(my disclaimer: the newspaper of KKE) during the Occupation of Greece had no problem with the capture of the << scum Speras >> from the 34th Constitution of ELAS, as the suppression of a spyman of Lazari team of EDES >>

In footnote : Lazaris was headman of Fascist EEE section.

--Αντικαθεστωτικός (talk) 21:16, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

June 20: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (and Pratt Women Wikipedia Design this Saturday June 16)[edit]

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Draft:Untitled the Joker film[edit]

Hello czar! Please revert the deleted edits of Draft:Untitled the Joker film as it was abandoned but now the film's production is active. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 09:25, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Captain Assassin!, ✓ done czar 10:10, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks man. Will you please fix this by histmerging Draft:Murder Mystery (film) into Murder Mystery (film)? --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 10:17, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
@Captain Assassin!, they have conflicting histories so I mainspaced the pre-existing draft instead, but merge as appropriate from Murder Mystery (upcoming film)—the other version—with proper attribution czar 10:33, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

How can the Interaction Timeline be useful in reporting to noticeboards?[edit]

Hi czar,

The Anti-Harassment Tools team built the Interaction Timeline to make it easier to understand how two people interact and converse across multiple pages on a wiki. The tool shows a chronological list of edits made by two users, only on pages where they have both made edits within the provided time range. Our goals are to assist users to make well informed decisions in incidents of user misconduct and to keep on-wiki discussions civil and focused on evidence.

We're looking to add a feature to the Interaction Timeline that makes it easy to post statistics and information to an on-wiki discussion about user misconduct. We're discussing possible wikitext output on the project talk page, and we invite you to participate! Thank you, For the Anti-Harassment Tools team, SPoore (WMF), Trust & Safety, Community health initiative (talk) 22:53, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

The Translation of Wounds and an other[edit]

Hi czar! I need you again to do the histmerge of Draft:Untitled Babak Anvari project into The Translation of Wounds and do the same with Draft:Untitled Dan Gilroy project into the Velvet Buzzsaw. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 11:09, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

@Captain Assassin!, ✓ done czar 19:20, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
By the way, I'm in DC and Wonder Woman 1984 was filming around the corner from me—looked up the article and saw that you started it czar 19:21, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks man. Yeah I started it. I am passionate about films, and I want to study film but can't here in Pakistan. I applied for a film school in Canada last year, I got admitted but my Visa was rejected. So that's stopping me. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:44, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
@Captain Assassin!, there aren't any film schools in Pakistan? I sense an opportunity! Were you looking to make films or write about them at film school? czar 10:12, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
There are just a few film schools in Pakistan, but I don't think that they can even teach the basic about film-making. I want to make films, writing is just to learn something and at least to get attached with it. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:23, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
@Captain Assassin!, how is it film school if they can't teach filmmaking? Anyway, most filmmakers I've know just make films and get better over time—who needs school? There's also some good advice and encouragement at (made by Kickstarter, where I work) czar 20:23, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
You work at Kickstarter, wow. I first heard of it when I created Veronica Mars (film). --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:42, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Terminator (2019 film) and It: Chapter Two[edit]

Hello again, I have another proposal, please do the histmerge of all edits before March 3, 2018 of Draft:Terminator (2019 film) into the Terminator (2019 film) and then redirect the remaining draft to the mainspace article. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 16:52, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

And please move the Draft:It: Chapter Two to It: Chapter Two as filming has begun. I couldn't move the draft, don't know why. Actually, we need to move it to the title "It: Chapter Two" but the moving tool tries to move it to title "Chapter Two", so please be careful with that. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:01, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
@Captain Assassin!, ✓ done and the second issue was due to technical restrictions on colons but should be resolved now czar 10:13, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 28[edit]

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Help with article[edit]

Hello again! I hope that you are having a wonderful weekend so far. I am thinking about putting the The Little Mermaid II: Pinball Frenzy through the FAC process sometime in the future. I was wondering if you could look through it to see if it would be ready for that (specifically to see if the sources are appropriate for FAC). Aoba47 (talk) 22:59, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Continued at Talk:The Little Mermaid II: Pinball Frenzy#Sources czar 16:21, 23 June 2018 (UTC)


Thanks for the message you left on my talk page. I'm an infrequent wiki editor mainly interested in African genetics. Sadly, I am being bothered by a banned high level sockpuppeteer [1]. His username was Middayexpress. You may know him. If you could help me out that would be great. Wadaad (talk) 16:05, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Wadaad, you reported the case in the right place for someone more familiar with the account to handle. (It's fine for even the most active of users to edit indefinitely as an IP editor but not to circumvent a block.) If the issue goes unresolved or if you need a third party in any discussion, feel free to {{ping}} me. czar 10:06, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons IRC Office Hour, Tuesday 26 June[edit]


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Once Upon a Time in Hollywood[edit]

Hello czar! Please do the histmerge of Draft:Once Upon a Time in HollywoodOnce Upon a Time in Hollywood of edits done before March 1, 2018. Thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 15:36, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Captain Assassin!, ✓ done czar 03:24, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

What properties does Commons need?[edit]


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WikiCup 2018 July newsletter[edit]

The third round of the 2018 WikiCup has now come to an end. The 16 users who made it to the fourth round had at least 227 points. Our top scorers in round 3 were:

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Nomination of Wrecking Ball (Overwatch) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Wrecking Ball (Overwatch) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Administrators' newsletter – July 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).


Administrator changes

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Gender pronouns[edit]

I quite deliberately used the gender neutral 'they' because the user has never once, to my knowledge all these years, declared their gender and has been careful not to do so. It would not be at all unusual for users to choose names that are generally attributed to the opposite sex. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 09:27, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

"She" is her preferred pronoun, as declared in her profile alongside this text:

How do you prefer to be described? [Option two "She edits wiki pages"] Setting this preference is optional. The software uses its value to address you and to mention you to others using the appropriate grammatical gender. This information will be public.

The point of using the {{gender}} template is to respect that. Secondarily, the sentence was ambiguous as to whether "they" was a single or set of admin. Already said to recast as you wish. czar 10:08, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Signpost byline[edit]

I'll ask early, since you started issue 8's In the media section. Would you like to be listed either as a main byline contributor or as one of the "other contributors"? See last month's In brief section for an example. ☆ Bri (talk) 21:03, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Hiya @Bri, I don't think I've made enough of a contribution to warrant credit, but I appreciate your asking. I often come across stories for ITM but don't know where to put them, so having the open draft helps. czar 00:09, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter - Summer 2018[edit]

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter and contribute to the next issue. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Community updates
  • Our dedicated IRC channel: wikimedia-commons-sd webchat
  • Since our last newsletter, the Structured Data team has moved into designing and building prototypes for various features. The use of multilingual captions in the UploadWizard and on the file page has been researched, designed, discussed, and built out for use. Behind the scenes, back-end work on search is taking place and designs are being drawn up for the front-end. There will soon be specifications published for the use of the first Wikidata property on Commons, "Depicts," and a prototype is to be released to go along with that.
Things to do / input and feedback requests
Discussions held
Wikimania 2018
Partners and allies

Two research projects about Wikimedia Commons are currently ongoing, or in the process of being finished:

  1. Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.
  • Prototypes will be available for Depicts soon.
Stay up to date!

-- Keegan (WMF) (talk)

Message sent by MediaWiki message delivery - 21:07, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Structured Data Newsletter - Research link fix[edit]


The newsletter omitted two interwiki prefixes, breaking the links on non-meta wikis as you might see above. Here are the correct links:

  1. m:Research:Curation workflows on Wikimedia Commons—a project that seeks to understand the current workflows of Commons contributors who curate media (categorize it, delete it, link to it from other projects, etc.).
  2. m:Research:Technical needs of external re-users of Commons media—soliciting feedback from individuals and organizations that re-use Commons content outside of Wikimedia projects, in order to understand their current painpoints and unmet needs.

My apologies, I hope you find the corrected links helpful.

- Keegan (WMF) (talk) 21:21, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject Education is defined as Inactive[edit]

As Per WikiProject Council, The Definition of a Inactive WikiProject is defined as follows "To qualify as "inactive", a project page should have had no directly project-related activity for at least three months. Comments from outside parties left on talk pages without response would not qualify as activity by this definition."

Following this WikiProject Education's Project pages have not received any substantial project related activity in the past three months.

Nolan Perry Yell at me! 21:18, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Then you haven't looked at its its talk page. czar 23:59, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: June 2018[edit]

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Thursday July 12: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ Jefferson Market Library[edit]

Thursday July 12, 5-8pm: Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon @ Jefferson Market Library
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Wikimedia NYC invites you to attend a Wiki Loves Pride Edit-a-thon on Thursday, July 12th at Jefferson Market Library! Wiki Loves Pride is a global campaign to expand and improve LGBT-related content across all Wikimedia projects, in all languages. We are holding this year's event in July in order to support folx who want to contribute a photograph they took at one of NYC's many Pride events or edit an article about something they learned this June. Not sure what to contribute? No problem! We will have a list of articles that need your help.

5:00pm - 8:00 pm at Jefferson Market Library, 425 6th Ave

--Megs (talk) 14:56, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

P.S. You are also invited to the "picnic anyone can edit", the Great American Wiknic NYC @ Prospect Park, Sunday, July 29!

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Draft:Artemis (film)[edit]

Hello czar! Please revert the deleted history of Draft:Artemis (film), thanks. --Captain Assassin! «TCG» 17:11, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

@Captain Assassin!, ✓ done czar 12:44, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Ben Judd (producer)[edit]

I've restored the article, and expanded the it significantly. I argued for notability on the talk page. Harizotoh9 (talk) 09:39, 17 July 2018 (UTC)