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I can't adopt you, I'm afraid, but I just thought I'd drop you a note to tell you that what I've seen of your edits so far is very encouraging - you're doing brilliantly! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 02:23, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your kind words!--English836 02:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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Like to be adopted, English836?
Hey there! How are you? My name is Arknascar44. I'm here to ask if you'd be interested in being adopted, so that I can help you learn how to be a successful Wikipedian and work well in our community. If you accept, I'd like you to say so on this page, or on my talk page. Then, we can get started. And don't worry; I won't be mad if you say no, so don't worry about it. Cheers, and happy editing, ( arky ) 02:51, 12 October 2007 (UTC).

Yes i wish to be adopted.--English836 19:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, English, I'm so sorry! I completely forgot...oh, sorry, sorry sorry! Don't worry; I'll have your adoption curriculum ready soon! Again, sorry, ( arky ) 02:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Okay, your adoption curriculum is here (just scroll down until you see your name) and I've typed up your first lesson for you at User talk:English836/Adoption, where I will post all future messages as well :) So, it might be a good idea for you to keep an eye on it in case I add anything there. Cheers, ( arky ) 02:24, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


Are you trying to avoid having any connection to previous users who edited here...or are you trying to be halfway blatant as to who you are? If you're trying to keep your identity unconnected to the previous one, then I suggest you change your editing as it's not hard to decipher. Metros (talk) 03:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


The image comes from the NY state court system. Even if the FBI was now in charge of the case (which is not true, by the way, the first line of the most recent article says "State police continue...") the photo would still be from the state police. Metros 23:00, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

You shouldn't be against uploading pictures. I realize fully that Wikipedia takes copyright seriously, but how hard is it for you to find the damn correct tag, and place it on the picture.--English836 23:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
The onus falls on you, English836, as the uploader. Metros 23:09, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
What are you talking about onus, please use proper english. If this keeps up its going to Arbitration--English836 23:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
wikt:Onus. And this would be rejected very quickly by the arbitration committee, so I wouldn't waste your time. Metros 23:14, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I've added the correct copyright information to the image page. Turns out it's fair use after all :) ( arky ) 22:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
You rule dude, i knew there was a template, just couldn't find it. Thanks :) --English836 23:33, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Teehee...I actually found the template by accident in a Google search for the copyright information of mugshots instead of a direct site search :) ( arky ) 02:07, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Beekman Fire District[edit]

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Another editor has added the {{prod}} template to the article Beekman Fire District, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not and Wikipedia:Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the {{prod}} template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 13:59, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

  • I asserted notability. Everyone knows this administrator is biased and targets me along with a few other users, that i have communicated with via email. I think there is something in the bigger picture than him trying to "do his duty and keep everything encyclopedic". Im suggesting that this be brought to Arbitration, since this is not the first time I have had problems with this fop. By viewing my contributions you can see that he has targeted every article I edit for kicks. Someone should review this, and if deletion passes me and six other users will support it for a WP:DRV. Good Luck--English836 (talk) 16:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Well guess what, based on the AFDs on the various pages of yours that I've tagged for deletion, it appears I've been correct in the eyes of other editors. If you wrote about notable things and I was still doing that, then you could cry abuse; but that's definitely not happening in this case. Metros (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
      • The AFDs on the other pages are only because you go down the list of my contributions scanning for articles that are "not worthy" in your mind. If Metros doesnt like it, he'll rally up his administrator buddies and all vote Delete on the AFD, which is strictly against policy, but when has policy stopped anyone. Im crying abuse on all the other 8 pages I've created that you and your misjudgment have caused to be deleted. If i nominated FCCLA or some other pointless high school enrichment program that you fancy, you wouldnt be so happy either. Also FCCLA doesnt even assert notibility, its nothing more than a after-school club, for future cooks and childcare professionals. Come on, this one is easy. Ignorance at its finest here on Wikipedia.--English836 (talk) 16:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

There is precedence for articles on these "after-school clubs". See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DECA (organization). Obviously there are standards; not every school club is notable, but with 220,000 students in the organization in about 7,000 schools, I'd say that FCCLA exceeds that standard. Metros (talk) 17:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

  • So you are insinuating that a after school club is more notable than a Fire Department? A place for kids to go and hang out with friends and compete for pointless titles, more important than someone who risks their life going into a burning building? I think not; you my friend have quite alot of learning to do, as apparently you have no respect for employees Government Agencies. And your blatant lack of having any leverage on these articles is repulsive. --English836 (talk) 17:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
    • You're confusing importance and notability. A local fire department is not notable according to Wikipedia, though it is important to the area it serves. You don't believe that this club is important, but by Wikipedia standards, it is notable. Metros (talk) 17:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
      • No, nothing has been confused; per the request, notability has been established. Receiving the RFSI Life Safety Award is something that few fire department in the United States is granted each year, That alone makes it notable. Also the fact that one of the fire trucks crashed due to mechanical failure on the part of the manufacturer that ended up taking the lives of a crew is notable. Per WP:FD this article is perfectly notable.--English836 (talk) 17:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
        • There you go again with misleading, blatantly false information. Read your own source very carefully. Do you see the part that says "A total of 973 fire departments in the U.S., Italy, and Iceland received the 2003 Life Safety Achievement Award"? So did 1 US department receive it and all the others were in Italy or Iceland? Having one person die is not notable. Also, please show a source as to where this "mechanical failure" is discussed. Every article I can find on his death dicusses a possible heart condition, but nothing about the truck itself. WP:FD is not a notability guideline on Wikipedia. It does not set standards of inclusion, nor do I see any attempt at a guideline at the page you linked to. The appropriate guideline here is WP:ORG. Metros (talk) 17:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
        • Here's another place in the US that won that award in 2003 as well. Metros (talk) 17:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
          • Does Florida reside in the North East? Go back to Global Studies. The North East has a district, the Midwest is a district, the southeast another, and west coast respectfully. --English836 (talk) 01:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
            • Huh? What does geography have to do with anything? You stated "something that one fire department in the United States is granted each year". Where does the north east or southeast factor in? Metros (talk) 01:35, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
              • That was far from a personal attack, how anything I said could be received in a derogatory fashion is completely utterly unfair.
                • Will you answer the question? I was just attacked for not knowing geography and you can't even give the courtesy to explain where said attack derives out of. What does this district thing have to do with anything? Metros (talk) 01:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
                  • The attack derived from the so called non-notable RFSI award that is given to one company on the West Coast, one on the East Coast, the Southwest and Southeast. Obvisouly this department is located in the North East and Florida is not in the northeast. A Florida Fire Department would be able to win the award since they are not in the geo district.--English836 (talk) 01:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Can you please show a link to where this is explained? According to [ this PDF file], all a fire department needs to do to receive this award is give documentation that they didn't have a single structural death for that year. There is nothing in that guideline about regions. Metros (talk) 01:59, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
    • And here's a fire department in the same state that this one is in receiving the award in 2002. How did both receive the award that year? Metros (talk) 02:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
      • New Rochelle Fire Department is grandfathered was exempt from standrard regulations from 2002-2003 as they had just became ANSI and OSHA compliant. First year cert departments are able to receive the award. --English836 (talk) 02:09, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
        • Can you please show a reference for that and for this regional thing? Thanks, Metros (talk) 02:10, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
          • Sure, 2004: New Rochelle FD OSHA COMP REGION 2 and RFSI here RFSI Regulations--English836 (talk) 02:16, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
            • The first link provides nothing about that specific department and is, in fact, 2 years after the company received the award. So how can they be grandfathered in 2002 but not reach the grandfather standards until 2004? Also, the second link has no infornation about regions at all. In fact, that site does have a list of all the awards given out in 2006. As you'll see here, close to 20 departments won the award in New York alone. So how do we suddenly get from 1 in the whole USA to 1 in each region to 1 in each region plus new departments to double digits in each state? Metros (talk) 02:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

English, please be aware that edits like this is discouraged by WP:TALK. The recommended practice is to use strikeouts, e.g. "one[few]" to avoid losing the context of the discussion.LeadSongDog (talk) 04:28, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

              • The matter has gone to WP:RFC, we'll see what happens.--English836 (talk) 19:08, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
It is now being discussed My actions and his related to this article are being discussed on Metros' talk page see User talk:Metros--English836 (talk) 14:36, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
No, it's not. The article is not being discussed on my talk page, just user actions. Metros (talk) 14:38, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I Stand corrected Metros--English836 (talk) 14:40, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Personal attacks[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg Please do not attack other editors. If you continue, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. In the past 10 hours or so I've been called a fop, been told to go back to global studies, and been called a child by you. All of these are personal attacks. Metros (talk) 01:38, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

  • A Fop is merely a sill person, look it up on Wiktionairy. I stated in my summary i felt as if i was fighting with a child, not CALLING you a child. Go Back to Global Studies was not slanted to be an attack, but some people are more sensitive then others.--English836 (talk) 01:50, 31 March 2008 (UTC)


I've noticed you've added a lot of photos for east coast train stations. Are these actually self-made photos? Your user page says you reside in California which is quite a distance away. Remember that you can only claim photos of your own if you actually took them yourself. Metros (talk) 02:13, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

  • Well if your that interested you can look at the meta data, you suppose I just hack someones computer on the east coast and steal their pictures?--English836 (talk) 02:17, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
    • I just think it's bizarre you'd wind up on the east coast all the way from California in the middle of a school semester at your community college out there. That's all. Metros (talk) 02:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Thank you On Job Training with a well-respected EMS provider--English836 (talk) 02:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Beekman Fire District[edit]

Hey I saw you adding to Beekman Fire District to try and keep it from getting AfD'd; I'm looking to do the same thing. I saw the assertion that it's the first in the county, but I can't find any source to support that (I thought that this one did too, but on second inspection it doesn't say that in there). Any ideas? Or did you talk to WikProject Fire Departments and have someone who can source that? Thanks. -FrankTobia (talk) 23:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Alright I posted without reading all of the above. I see this is a bigger can of worms than I had anticipated. But still, let me know if there's anything I can do to help. I'm going to keep trying on my own. -FrankTobia (talk) 23:28, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the fire company existed under a previous name prior to 1937. Reason being is before that there are books about a Poughquag/Green Haven Fire Brigade which existed prior to 1937. The group merged creating the Beekman Fire District/Company, and I think this is where we are hung up.--English836 (talk) 03:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

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