User:Erp/Sandbox MemChu notes

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Some raw data

Erp, hope you don't mind me coming here and experimenting; I'm assuming that this is the purpose of this sandbox. I'm thinking that in the main MemChu article a good way to go would be to put the info below into charts below following the descriptions of the windows and mosaics. (Of course, a new description would need to be added for the inscriptions.) I'll go ahead and play around below. --Christine (talk) 22:31, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Windows[edit]

Main Windows[edit]

Jane borrowed from various artists.

Article about windows: [1]

New source "Stanford Memorial Church: Glory of Angels" by Robert C. Gregg, Karen Bartholomew, Lesley Bone. Stanford Alumni Association, 1995

East nave
Title Inspired by
"The Annunciation" Frederic Shields
"The flight into Egypt" Bernhard Plockhorst
"The Home at Nazareth" Heinrich Hofmann


East transept
Title Inspired by
"Christ in the Temple" "The Finding of the Saviour in the Temple" by William Holman Hunt
"Christ's Baptism" Gustave Doré
"The Sermon on the Mount" Hofmann
"Christ Calming the Tempest" Anton Dietrich
"The Raising of Jairus' Daughter" Hofmann


Chancel
Title Inspired by
"The Nativity" Edward Fellowes-Prynne
"The Crucifixion" Ernst Deger
The Ascension Johann Karl Loth (Carlotto) 1632-1698

I wasn't able to find anything about "Degger" (who Hall claims "The Crucifixion" was based upon), or "Carlotti" ("The Ascension"), so I deleted them. --Christine (talk) 17:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Found them in the Glory of Angels book. --Erp (talk) 23:25, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I suppose I should break down and order the book from Stanford. What do you think? I've avoided it up to now because my husband would really ridicule me when it came in the mail, and I'm not sure it would provide any new info, anyway. Is there any way we can access it online? Or would you mind going through it and seeing if it has anything we can use? I just love having my own personal researcher, and I'm in a very strange mood this afternoon. ;) --Christine (talk) 23:34, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Never mind, I'll risk the ridicule. Just found it on Amazon for 4 bucks. I certainly have invested enough in Maya Angelou books, so this is worth it. Still in that weird mood. --Christine (talk) 23:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Actually I've just broken down and bought it also. It has some interesting pre-earthquake pictures (I'm certainly glad the eye of God staring down on the congregation is gone). --Erp (talk) 23:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
The book arrived, and I'm adding stuff from it to the article now. It's providing us with everything the FAC reviewers wanted, especially the earthquake damage info. Erp, you're totally right about the dome! It's a little freaky. I hafta say, when I saw its picture on page 28 of the book, I went, "Seriously?!" It's too bad we can't get a copy of the image for the article. I think I'll ask Awadewit‎ when I ask her about the Morgan videos. --Christine (talk) 16:46, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
West Transept
Title Inspired by
"The Miracle of the Loaves and Fishes" from "Pan y Peces" by Bartolomé Esteban Murillo
"Christ and the Adulteress" Hofmann
"The Good Shepherd" from "The Door of the Fold" by Sibyl C. Parker, English artist
"Christ in the Home at Bethany" Hofmann
"Christ in Gethsemane" Hofmann

Deleted "C. S. Parker" ("The Good Shepherd" for same reason as above. --Christine (talk) 18:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Sibyl C. Parker. also from Glory of Angels--Erp (talk) 23:25, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
West Nave
Title Inspired by
"The Dream of Pilate's Wife" Doré
"The Angel at the Tomb" Axel Ender, a Norwegian artist
"Lo, I Am with You Always" designed by Antonio Paoletti

Clearstory windows[edit]

I don't think these lists require tables, so I'm just wikilinking the items. --Christine (talk) 19:56, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

East side (Old Testament characters) Nave:

In transept:

West side (saints and virtues)

Transept

Nave

Mosaics[edit]

I'm starting here because I'm following Hall, and he discusses the mosaics first. --Christine (talk) 22:32, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Below is what I've been able to crank out so far this morning. The next time I'm able, it's my intention to cut-and-paste the table into the main article, and make some aesthetic changes. I will also explain what I've done over on the MemChu talk page. There are all kinds of potential for wikilinks, and I need to figure out a way to cite Hall (pp. 31-33).

Also, regarding this note from Erp:

Dome uses tromp d'oiel mosaic and carving (the weight of actual mosaic and stonework was deemed to be to heavy)

Erp, we need to know the source for the above. Dummy me has no idea what it means; what is "tromp d'oiel mosaic"? Actually, if you could provide your source for all your lists, that would be great. If you made this list yourself, I think that would be okay, since it parallels Hall's list and it's something anyone visiting the church would see. Also, anyone who reads this, please let me know what you think about what I've done. Gotta run! --Christine (talk) 18:08, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Title(s) Location Description
"Christ Blessing the People" Outside facade Commonly known as "The Sermon on the Mount"
Faith, Hope, and Charity mosaics Below facade, between windows
"Our Lord on His Throne Surrounded by the Four Evangelists, Apostles, Kings and Friends" Under the organ loft and over the doors
Monogram medallions Vestibule Forms the Greek letters alpha and omega and Christ's initials
Two cherub groups In the frieze over the doors Cherubs holding tablets with the inscriptions, Domus Dei Locus Orations and Domus Dei Aula Coeli.
"The Prayer of Hannah", "Ahasuerus Selects Esther to be his Queen", "The Judgment of Solomon", "Saul Casts His Spear at David", "God's Promise to Solomon when Building the Temple" East Nave, under the arches of the east wall
"The Garden of Eden" East door, near the pilaster
"God Separating Darkness from Light", "Driven from Eden", The Deluge", "The Tower of Babel", "Moses Saved from the Water" East wall of the clearstory over the arches
"Noah is Ordered to Build the Ark", "Abraham is Informed he will have a son", "Angel Gabriel announces to Zacharias the Conception of Elizabeth", "Abraham sees the Promised Land", "Daniel's Prophecy" East wall of the clearstory between the windows
"Last Supper", "Seraph Choir" (also called "The Glory of the Angels") The wall of the chancel
"John the Baptist", "Ezekiel", "Samuel", "Jeremiah" Above the east apse
"David", "Elijah", "Moses", "Isaiah" Above the west apse
Angels emerging from clouds. The ceiling of the dome is decorated in mosaic, a notable feature being a frieze containing a large number of medallions. Over the four pilasters supporting the dome Spandrels decorated in mosaic
Frieze containing a large number of medallions Dome ceiling
"Rebekah and Isaac", "Rachel Sees Jacob Approaching", "The Lord Speaks to Moses from the Burning Bush", "Moses is Ordered to take Israel out of Egypt", Joshua finds a Captain for his Hosts" West wall of the nave, under the arches In order from church entrance
"Old Testament Prophecies concerning the coming of Christ" Over the west door, near the pilaster
"Moses receiving the Tablets of the Law", "Joshua Successor of Moses", "David anointed for the first time", "Meeting of David and Abigail", "David Singing his Psalms" West wall of the clerestory, over the arches
"Joseph sold by his brothers", "Jacob going to Canaan", "Isaac blessing Jacob", "Dream of Jacob", "Abraham restrained from offering up Isaac" West wall of the clerestory between windows
"Noah", "Noah's wife", "Isaac", "Rebecca", "Jacob", "Rachel", "Tobias", "Sarah", "Nathan", "Deborah", "Aaron", "Naomi" East Transept Gallery wall Lunettes of cherub singers cover the doorways, and the remainder of the wall is decorated with tapestry mosaic work in a variety of colors.
Twelve saints: "St. Helena", "St. James", St. Margaret", "St. Andrew", "St. Philemon", "St. Thaddeus", "St. Elizabeth", "St. Bartholomew", Madeline (Mary Magdalen?)", "St. Barnabas", St. Gertrude", St. Philip" West Transept Gallery wall The doorways are also covered in lunettes and tapestry mosaic work.

minor thesis to possibly look into[edit]

The Christian education program for Stanford students By Sumner Walters 1949