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Discussions with Wikipedia members/administrators

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Class

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I noticed that you have a class participating at Wikipedia. You may be interested in Wikiversity, a sister project that caters to online classroom activities. The rules and structure is different to allow "original research" and education based activities. Wikipedia is mostly for building articles. You could use both if you wish to teach and instruct while students build articles. Ottava Rima (talk) 20:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of Wikiversity, but my students are doing something a bit different--they're focusing on articles--so we should be fine: caveats and alternatives noted. Pmedward (talk) 14:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Welcome

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Welcome!

Hello, Pmedwards, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 20:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

School/University projects

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If you are intending to use Wikipedia for a school or university project, please take a look at WP:SUP - it has much useful advice for teachers/instructors. Thank you. – ukexpat (talk) 21:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

  • See also User:Jbmurray/Advice. There have been some excellent and productive projects, but there have also been some which were frustrating and disappointing for the participants and caused a great deal of clean-up work for other Wikipedians. The advice in the two articles referenced here is based on hard-won experience, and is essential reading before your project gets under way. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2009 (UTC) JohnCD (talk) 21:33, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Understandable. I've been following reports of Wikipedia-based projects for a while now, and my students should be fine for what we're set up to do. (There are things that we're doing in the classroom that should help get articles in decent shape before they actually go live.) Pmedward (talk) 15:02, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Good. At the risk of teaching my grandmother to suck eggs, two points which have come up in earlier projects might be worth mentioning:
Nobody owns a WP article: as soon as your students put one into article space, others may and probably will edit it. A good way round this is to create a first version in user space by starting a page named "User:<username>/<pagename>" (for example, I have User:JohnCD/Sandbox) where they can work undisturbed until the article is ready to move into article space.
One important way in which a Wikipedia article differs from the usual student essay is that Original Research and Synthesis (i.e. putting established ideas together to deduce something new) are the name of the game for student essays but forbidden for WP articles.
Useful links for your students: WP:YFA, WP:BAI, WP:NOT. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 20:12, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

One additional point, you may be better off creating a project page where everyone can interact, such as Wikipedia:Nameofproject. – ukexpat (talk) 04:24, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

  • I think better not in article space as it would not be an encyclopedia article and might be objected to on the grounds of WP:NOT#WEBSPACE; but you could do it in your user-space, e.g. User:Pmedward/Projectpage. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 12:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
Good point - that's a much better idea. – ukexpat (talk) 02:02, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

On layout

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Let me begin by saying that it's nice to see such an efficient use of Wikipedia as an educational research. I recently came across an article (magnetic air car) created by one of your students and I was hoping that you'd include adherence to the Wikipedia style guide in your instructions. Best of luck and regards ˉˉanetode╦╩ 19:30, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

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Hello, you have a great project going, and it's especially nice to see it coming from my alma mater.

I wanted to point out, though, that you may want to let your students know about Wikipedia's image use policy, and copyright in general. I noticed that some of the students who are editing pages as part of your project are uploading copyrighted images they found on the internet.

Your students should be aware that:

  1. Almost all pictures found on the internet are copyrighted, and cannot be legally be reproduced without permission.
  2. Since part of Wikipedia's mission is to create a restriction-free encyclopedia that can be adopted for any use, it does not accept copyrighted images, except when they're considered crucial to understanding a subject under the fair use principle.

While intellectual property laws can be complicated and controversial, and it wouldn't be reasonable to expect non-lawyers to understand them completely. But the basic rule of thumb is, if you found it on the internet, you probably shouldn't use it. If the pictures belong to newspapers or press agencies like AP or Getty, they definitely shouldn't use them.

Now, copyrighted images I've seen were of Carolina basketball players. In these cases, your students are actually in a better position to create or obtain copyright-free images of these players than other Wikipedia editors; they could conceivably take the pictures themselves, or ask a student photographer (or even the sports information office) to release their work to public domain.

Thanks, and best of luck with your class. Mosmof (talk) 21:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Communications with INLS 200 (Spring 2009) students

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Creating user accounts

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(Student information removed)

INLS 200 peer review assignments (round 1) (Spring 2009)

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Username To be reviewed no. 1 To be reviewed no. 2
User:Earmfield (contrib) The_Library_Bar_and_Nightclub Magnetic_air_car
User:Nbarnes32 (contrib) Paradox_of_analysis FlashDevelop
User:MB3C (contrib) Drugs_in_Cambodia 1961-62_North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_men's_basketball_team
User:Cbsean (contrib) Richard_Hundley Second_Sophistic
User:Yjchang86 (contrib) UNC_Junior_Varsity_Basketball Women_in_education
User:Cliftonc3 (contrib) Cosimo_I_de'_Medici,_Grand_Duke_of_Tuscany - use User:powellmb Arendell_Parrott_Academy
User:Sscline (contrib) use User:Mpeebles Autism_Diagnostic_Interview-Revised
User:N_cody46 (contrib) Top_of_the_Hill_restaurant - use User:Mamcarver Hiddenite_Gem_Mines
User:Dfheathe (contrib) Pharmaceuticals_and_personal_care_products Frank_Waters
User:Deichman (contrib) Sports_nutrition Boys_and_Girls_Harbor
User:Depolomd (contrib) Go-Stop Caldwell_Academy
User:Wduckett (contrib) Delta_Sigma_Phi_-_Alpha_Delta Three_in_the_Attic
User:Mechols87 (contrib) Bobby_frasor - use User:Heharper Virtual_busking
User:Projectpat11 (contrib) GemStones_(rapper) - use User:Fuentesc Ed_Davis_(basketball_player)
User:LPFleming (contrib) Second_Sophistic Phi_Gamma_Delta_Epsilon_Chapter
User:Skinfan8 (contrib) John_Bratton Scott_Avett
User:Fuentesc (contrib) The_Economic_History_of_Europe Ancient_Crete
User:Chrisgerding (contrib) use User_talk:Dfheathe#Claude_McKay Collaborative_journalism
User:Heharper (contrib) 2-3_Zone_Defense Marcus_ginyard - use User:Cliftonc3
User:Barrettgholland (contrib) Your_pieces Notepad++
User:Dwhoyle (contrib) Concord_swim_club - use User:MB3C NCAA_Student-Athlete_Recruiting
User:Bjones4787 (contrib) Mama_Dip's The_Library_Bar_and_Nightclub
User:kim1220 (contrib) Magnetic_air_car Paradox_of_analysis
User:Vknott (contrib) FlashDevelop Drugs_in_Cambodia
User:Dlopesss (contrib) 1961-62_North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_men's_basketball_team Richard_Hundley
User:Hlove7 (contrib) Ed_Davis_(basketball_player) UNC_Junior_Varsity_Basketball
User:Daydreambeliever (contrib) Women_in_education Cosimo_I_de'_Medici,_Grand_Duke_of_Tuscany - use User:powellmb
User:JLowman (contrib) Autism_Diagnostic_Interview-Revised Top_of_the_Hill_restaurant - use User:Mamcarver
User:Mamcarver (contrib) Arendell_Parrott_Academy use User:Mpeebles
User:Prlauren (contrib) Hiddenite_Gem_Mines Pharmaceuticals_and_personal_care_products
User:Mpeebles (contrib) Frank_Waters Sports_nutrition
User:Sjperry (contrib) Boys_and_Girls_Harbor Go-Stop
User:Powellmb (contrib) Caldwell_Academy Delta_Sigma_Phi_-_Alpha_Delta
User:Mes111 (contrib) Three_in_the_Attic Bobby_frasor - use User:Heharper
User:Bakershields15 (contrib) Virtual_busking GemStones_(rapper) - use User:Fuentesc
User:Ersmith9 (contrib) Phi_Gamma_Delta_Epsilon_Chapter John_Bratton
User:Kasterno (contrib) Scott_Avett The_Economic_History_of_Europe
User:Crzle21 (contrib) Ancient_Crete use User_talk:Dfheathe#Claude_McKay
User:Tcandrew (contrib) Collaborative_journalism 2-3_Zone_Defense
User:Hturley (contrib) Marcus_ginyard - use User:Cliftonc3 Your_pieces
User:Wxie (contrib) Notepad++ Concord_swim_club - use User:MB3C
User:Rachelp87 (contrib) NCAA_Student-Athlete_Recruiting Mama_Dip's

INLS 200 peer review assignments (round 2) (Spring 2009)

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...due in Wikipedia 'discussion' areas before class on Wednesday, April 8, 2009

Username To be reviewed no. 1 To be reviewed no. 2
Earmfield (contrib) NCAA_Student-Athlete_Recruiting (by Nbarnes32) The_Library_Bar_and_Nightclub (by Rachelp87)
Nbarnes32 (contrib) Mama_Dip's (by Earmfield) Magnetic_air_car (by Wxie)
MB3C (contrib) Paradox_of_analysis (by Hturley) FlashDevelop (by Tcandrew)
Cbsean (contrib) Drugs_in_Cambodia 1961-62_North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_men's_basketball_team
Yjchang86 (contrib) Richard_Hundley Second_Sophistic
Cliftonc3 (contrib) UNC_Junior_Varsity_Basketball Women_in_education
Sscline (contrib) Cosimo_I_de'_Medici,_Grand_Duke_of_Tuscany - use User:powellmb Arendell_Parrott_Academy
N_cody46 (contrib) use User:Mpeebles Autism_Diagnostic_Interview-Revised
Dfheathe (contrib) Top_of_the_Hill_restaurant - use User:Mamcarver Hiddenite_Gem_Mines
Deichman (contrib) Pharmaceuticals_and_personal_care_products Frank_Waters
Depolomd (contrib) Sports_nutrition Boys_and_Girls_Harbor
Wduckett (contrib) Go-Stop Caldwell_Academy
Mechols87 (contrib) Delta_Sigma_Phi_-_Alpha_Delta Three_in_the_Attic
Projectpat11 (contrib) Bobby_frasor - use User:Heharper Virtual_busking
LPFleming (contrib) GemStones_(rapper) - use User:Fuentesc Ed_Davis_(basketball_player)
Skinfan8 (contrib) Second_Sophistic Phi_Gamma_Delta_Epsilon_Chapter
Fuentesc (contrib) John_Bratton Scott_Avett
Chrisgerding (contrib) The_Economic_History_of_Europe Ancient_Crete
Heharper (contrib) use User_talk:Dfheathe#Claude_McKay Collaborative_journalism
Barrettgholland (contrib) 2-3_Zone_Defense Marcus_ginyard - use User:Cliftonc3
Dwhoyle (contrib) Your_pieces Notepad++
Bjones4787 (contrib) Concord_swim_club - use User:MB3C NCAA_Student-Athlete_Recruiting (by Nbarnes32)
kim1220 (contrib) Mama_Dip's (by Earmfield) The_Library_Bar_and_Nightclub (by Rachelp87)
Vknott (contrib) Magnetic_air_car (by Wxie) Paradox_of_analysis (by Hturley)
Dlopesss (contrib) FlashDevelop (by Tcandrew) Drugs_in_Cambodia
Hlove7 (contrib) 1961-62_North_Carolina_Tar_Heels_men's_basketball_team Richard_Hundley
Daydreambeliever (contrib) Ed_Davis_(basketball_player) UNC_Junior_Varsity_Basketball
JLowman (contrib) Women_in_education Cosimo_I_de'_Medici,_Grand_Duke_of_Tuscany - use User:powellmb
Mamcarver (contrib) Autism_Diagnostic_Interview-Revised Top_of_the_Hill_restaurant - use User:Mamcarver
Prlauren (contrib) Arendell_Parrott_Academy use User:Mpeebles
Mpeebles (contrib) Hiddenite_Gem_Mines Pharmaceuticals_and_personal_care_products
Sjperry (contrib) Frank_Waters Sports_nutrition
Powellmb (contrib) Boys_and_Girls_Harbor Go-Stop
Mes111 (contrib) Caldwell_Academy Delta_Sigma_Phi_-_Alpha_Delta
Bakershields15 (contrib) Three_in_the_Attic Bobby_frasor - use User:Heharper
Ersmith9 (contrib) Virtual_busking GemStones_(rapper) - use User:Fuentesc
Kasterno (contrib) Phi_Gamma_Delta_Epsilon_Chapter John_Bratton
Crzle21 (contrib) Scott_Avett The_Economic_History_of_Europe
Tcandrew (contrib) Ancient_Crete use User_talk:Dfheathe#Claude_McKay
Hturley (contrib) Collaborative_journalism 2-3_Zone_Defense
Wxie (contrib) Marcus_ginyard - use User:Cliftonc3 Your_pieces
Rachelp87 (contrib) Notepad++ Concord_swim_club - use User:MB3C