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AfD nomination of Chicken hunter wanted[edit]

Le Journal du soir[edit]

The nightly prime time newscast on a commercial television network is inherently notable. Bearcat 21:59, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Sure, as I can get more information on it beyond the basics. TQS doesn't actually have separate web pages about its news programs; they just all redirect back to the network's news website itself. Bearcat 22:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Arp (techno artist)[edit]

Shouldn't the article that it's redirected to get deleted? And it should be db-bio or db-music, not db-ad. Corvus cornix 23:50, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Joseph B. Cryer[edit]

I am learning here.. Please forgive me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cryer1966 (talkcontribs) 00:05, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Les Munro[edit]

yes, but that article says very little about him being decorated, and gives far less information about the WWII hero himself. This article has no references, and in my mind does not meet WP:BIO. Tiptoety 00:28, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Okay, well another user removed the speedy tag agreeing with you, so i just did a AfD instead, thank you, Tiptoety 00:33, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
You are welcome to voice your views, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Les Munro. Tiptoety 00:37, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Wiki Visualization[edit]

Hey there - Not sure why you flagged my page Wiki Visualization for speedy deletion. I was in the process of editing it when you tagged it, so perhaps not all the content was up? In fact, it may not be the appropriate place for that kind of page, but I am trying to connect with individuals who are interested in doing an open source visual mapping of wikipedia (as is explained on the page). Please advise if I should place this page elsewhere. Thank you for the assistance. SlvrDreams 02:04, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that. Is it something I can put on my sandbox in my user page? The problem is that I don't really know of any good connection points outside of WP to connect with people that might have the programming knowledge to help. SlvrDreams 02:20, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Peter Marks[edit]

Hiya Rodhullandemu. I've declined the speedy deletion of the above, as notability was asserted. You may want to take it to WP:AFD however. Pedro :  Chat  08:49, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

No worries. I'll watchlist and if it still looks lousy in a few days I might AfD it anyhow. Thanks. Pedro :  Chat  15:28, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Shiny Stuff[edit]

Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
For taking an article that could have been deleted and yet working hard to improve it instead, whilst also demonstrating good faith and civility I humbly award you this barnstar. Thank you! Pedro :  Chat  19:12, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Question: why revert the changes I did on The Fifth Element[edit]

I know that we're trying to keep the plot short (I did a trimming down a couple days ago for it), and had just made some cleanups, better wording, and adding actors/characters names where appropriate, but you had undone that revision without additional comments, I'm just wondering if that was intentional, if it looking like pointless editing or vandalism, or what, as I was trying to improve upon what was already there without adding too many more words. --Masem 02:43, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:SupernaturalFairyTale2.jpg[edit]

dealt with --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 12:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Annie in Wonderland[edit]

Not at all, my mistake. I'll roll them back. Dave Crosby 15:46, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Quite right, I totally agree. I just need to admit to myself that reading glasses would be a good investment. Dave Crosby 15:52, 29 September 2007 (UTC)


I was about to drop a message about something else, but when Ichecked your recent contributions to see if you were still on, I found this [1]. Something wrong with NPWatcher? FlowerpotmaN·(t) 02:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

(Reply: sorry, was away from my machine for a few minutes). Not quite sure why Black would be a potential spam article? FlowerpotmaN·(t) 02:32, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

The Panic Division[edit]

Worth re-reading WP:MUSIC. Chubbles 03:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Bay Area Linux Users Group[edit]

Hi there - I just deleted this article, but changed your reasoning - I deleted it as a non-notable group (A7). Just letting you know my reason for a variance from your request. :-) - Philippe | Talk 05:27, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Bites of the cherry...[edit]

Great screen name. I saw Rod Hull and his Emu on "The Hudson Brothers" and other shows when I was a kid. Anyway, there's no rule against posting multiple comments, but everyone is permitted only one vote (keep, delete, etc). You can change your vote by putting the character "< s >" on one side and "</ s>" on the other side and then it crosses through what you had before, like this . Thus, Nick Graves (or anyone else) can write lots of comments, but an administrator would count his opinion only once. As with anything else in society, there's no limit to what one CAN say, but there's a practical limit on how much one SHOULD say. Rightly or wrongly, there is the perception that someone who comments persistently in one conversation is insecure about whether they're being taken seriously. While a reply is sometimes necessary to a comment responding to your first statement, getting into long conversations in a deletion discussion is usually unnecessary. Nick's okay, he's just a man with strong opinions. Mandsford 16:12, 30 September 2007 (UTC)


Hey, Just wondering why you nominated Bossacucanova for speedy deletion. I realize it was deleted twice before, but I put its notability requirement in the first edit summary. Most of my work on here isn't done in the music sphere, so I was just wondering if I missed something pertinent in creating a band article that I was not aware of.

Thanks! matt91486 02:43, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Once, again, thanks much - I have a terrible time figuring out to put things about bands without sounding like a PR person. I'll continue trying to improve the article to remove any ambiguity. matt91486 02:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:MottWildlife.jpg, Image:IABD69.jpg Image:KellyTheBarmaid.jpg[edit]

-dealt with --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 12:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Question about banner[edit]

Hi. Thanks for your comment. Can you give me a clue what went wrong with the banner you commented on at Wikipedia_talk:Meetup/Minneapolis#2007_meetup? If it's readable it should be ok. If not I better fix it. Thanks. -Susanlesch 08:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

  • OK. Maybe the close div was lost somehow and then restored. Nothing I can really fix that I know of. -Susanlesch 13:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:FiestaFatale.jpg, Image:FillYourHeadWithRock.jpg & Image:FillYourHeadWithRockInterior.jpg[edit]

-Dealt with --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 12:58, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:AtcoBlockbusters.jpg[edit]

Dealt with FFS --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 23:45, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

The Age of Atlantic[edit]

Great work! *wink* Phgao 00:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, I received your email, I should be studying arhhh, lol. Phgao 20:37, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Re Categories (Peirce)[edit]

You were right. I've done a rewrite of the opening Categories (Peirce). Is it okay? Thanks. The Tetrast 01:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

It's in a separate section now. The Tetrast 02:07, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, Rodhullandemu. The Tetrast 02:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Your comment about vincotto[edit]

Either what? Badagnani 02:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I see. You had "flavour" as well and I changed it to "flavor," and I thought "ageing" might also be a British spelling. We've used U.S. spelling in this article so I just standardized it. I'd never heard about vincotto before you added that, so it's really fascinating. How did you find out about this stuff? Badagnani 02:05, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm going to try to expand it into a full article. Next thing is to find a free photo. Badagnani 02:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


--For the heads up. :) Domthedude001 02:13, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Palazzi Barbaro-Dario[edit]

Hi, I'm Save Venice working on the Palazzo Barbaro-Dario page you flagged. The article is properly cited, but how do you get the citations to appear in the notes section. Can you help, thanksSave venice 03:09, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Chow Chow (Band)[edit]

AfD nomination of Personalities Renowned By Mother Names[edit]


Just a heads up. This article was a blatant copy vio, not a cleanup. Do you check Google? --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 02:39, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. It looked a bit suspicious, but I wasn't really sure. -jj137 T/C 20:53, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Doesn't really matter, as long as it goes. If the wording looks like it may be an article, I usually check. In my experience CopyVios tend to get booted more quickly. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 21:01, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
You're sure right there. -jj137 T/C 21:03, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:HollyMcCall.jpg[edit]

Dealt with, FFS. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 22:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Your guess is as good as mine[edit]

Thank you rhowhatever thanks for congratulating me to be part of the wikipedia commite!!! You are a great guy but one problem if people kept on deleting my page how did i get into the commite?!?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Making fiends 7 (talkcontribs)

Hi rhowhatever I am sorry I put something bad I did not mean it I could not think of any other words to put on muffin films so I put blood I am not trying to hurt you, I was just telling other people that muffin films was sometimes bad! SORRY from your (friend) making fiends 7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Making fiends 7 (talkcontribs)

Moved from your user page. Into The Fray T/C 00:28, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Didn't mean to duplicate. I have no guesses either. In my watchlist because I probably issued a warning to him. Cheers, Into The Fray T/C 00:34, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you a big fan of making fiends?![edit]

I am a biiiig fan of making fiends! I can sing all it's song by memory even at school my favorite is "You can see it all with concreate shoes" and "I wish I was a christmas tree!!!" I wish i was a christmas tree, a pretty little pine i wear a star above my head and ornaments would whine!!! etc. I have almost all it's t-shirts I love it!!! Please talk to me!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Making fiends 7 (talkcontribs) 00:56, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

New page patrol[edit]

Thank you for patrolling new pages. However, could you consider watching the bottom of the Special:Newpages log instead of the top? Marking pages that are mere minutes old for speedy deletion is in my opinion only appropriate in case of nonsense or attack pages; any author who makes a good faith effort to write a page should be given a few moments to be fixed. Oh, and you should not use speedy deletion at all on pages like Mishmar Haemek: a kibbutz is more than just some random group. When there is any doubt, use WP:PROD or WP:AFD instead. Thank you, Kusma (talk) 10:53, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Frightened Rabbit[edit]

Hi Rodhullandemu - I've declined the speedy on the above as the band does seem to have one notable album. You may like to take it to WP:AFD if you wish. Pedro :  Chat  11:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


Perhaps you could do as you suggest. Greenshed 23:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Sorry, didn't mean to come across as curt - thanks for bringing the page up to spec. Greenshed 18:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[edit]

This page is a companion to Wikipedia:Admins willing to make difficult blocks [2] but for editors. That page has existed for ~18 months and seems useful.

Hello - someone has moved it out of main space - Is it ok to remove the speedy delete tag in that case?

Thanks Uncle uncle uncle 02:09, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Blade Runner[edit]

Well that particular quote, I don't see that as necessary since its a small partial quote. But I do love to blockquote really notable stuff, so I cquoted the rest of the quote. Oh I see what you mean, I'll just merge them with an ellipse, as I don't know if they go together. - RoyBoy 800 01:57, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually bad idea, I took a page from your book (previous BR edit) and removed it entirely since its a redundant statement. Summarization feels good. - RoyBoy 800 02:00, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

World Record Club[edit]

Hi, There must be some special department of admin in WP specially devoted to getting rid of articles about Record companies! Is this a policy or something? I spent one and a half hours getting down the first few sentences about this company, as I found it listed for development into an article, and as soon as I saved the first bit, before adding categories or anything else, along came Phgao and tagged it for instant deletion. So I saved him the trouble and wiped it for him. Now I see you have looked at it and don't think it's worth keeping 'cos there's nothing in it! Well not surprising really, as I removed what I had written. I'm surprised anything at all gets written for Wikipedia at that rate. No sooner do you start writing than someone comes and stamps on you. Really though, look at this list and you will see that all sorts of other record companies are being written up as worthy of Encyclopedic content, and from many points of view discographical information can be very useful. List of record labels starting with W. I wasn't out on a limb. What's the point of killing an article before someone can write it? Who decides that the subject isn't suitable, before the article is written? After all, Jimbo didn't make anybody into the next King...Sedgefoot 02:01, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou very much indeed for what you did, I have reversed my heart attack and replaced what I was working on! And will continue to work. It had already been scotched by User:Phgao, and then I had deleted it having got the message that it wasn't wanted. So it was no surprise that you then went to it, because there was nothing there by then, owing to a small thermo-nuclear explosion in my head, and it was natural for you to add your tag. It all happened in about 5 minutes, or so it seemed. I have taken a deep breath, and I am very grateful to you for setting the situation right for me. Thankyou. Sedgefoot 02:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

While writing that have just seen your last message, and will go to it. Cheers Sedgefoot 02:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch[edit]

Thanks for sorting out that! Of course I always tag with good faith as you said, and with your edits you saved me a lot of potential headache. Thus in light of that and our previous encounter. I award you with:

SpecialBarnstar.png The Special Barnstar
I award Rodhullandemu this barnstar, for not only giving detailed explanations to other editors, but for being a all round great guy! Phgao 11:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Notability concerns and speedy deletions[edit]

Hi. :) Thanks for your hard work on new page patrol. Very important, in my opinion, especially when it comes to copyright violations or attack pages. I'm just dropping you a note to remind you that speedy deletion can only be used to address notability concerns as they apply to people, groups of people, or web content. WP:CSD#Non-criteria specifies that "there is no consensus to speedily delete articles of types not specifically listed in A7 under that criterion". When we encounter non-notable songs, as indicated at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Explanations, we need to prod them or list them for WP:AfD. I know it's frustrating when you encounter something clearly not-notable to have to go through those extra steps, but current consensus is that this is the proper procedure. Anyway, I just wanted to clarify that one point. Keep up the good work. :) --Moonriddengirl 12:48, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem. It's a common source of confusion. :) --Moonriddengirl 14:31, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

AFD for Jowell Y Randy[edit]

What is wrong with the article is it because the references are in spanish? The information present is all that is available for them so whats the problem?--TrUcO9311 04:11, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

and you are unable to help me locate better sources?--TrUcO9311 15:30, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
But their Myspace page is their "band website" and their are many other articles that are the same way, a myspace as their source.--TrUcO9311 15:43, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok, now I have found their band label website, and most info is on their and I have added it to the article, now only like 2 things are referred from Myspace. its good or need more sources?--TrUcO9311 15:54, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I fixed the link and have added a source from Billboard, Casa De Leones is their new band, just go under where it say "Biografia" and then scroll to the bottom to find the english Biogrpahy :)--TrUcO9311 16:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Some background to the guilt article[edit]

FYI, I've added some background explanation to a certain individuals newest creation to the section you created at Dmcdevit's talk--Stor stark7 Talk 18:59, 7 October 2007 (UTC). --Stor stark7 Talk 18:59, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


Hi! Without wanting to start a big argument here and get myself banned or blocked, please can you tell me where an encyclopaediac entry stops and spamming begins? If you take the Wakamezake entry for example, I defy you to show another gallery on the internet that shows the practice as clearly as mine does. Isn't that what Wiki is for? Surely then my entry is valid?

As to the removal of my page... Why are Richard Kern and Petter Hegre allowed entries and I am not? I work with two of the biggest names on the UK fetish scene on a regular basis and am a 'known name'/'brand'. Nothing I entered was false, I can provide links and references to every claim I made. By the ruling, every photographic artist that has a link to their own page should also be considered spamming?

Finally. You state that Wiki links to my work won't improve my Google ranking... Weird as it may seem did it occur to you that I might not have that aim anyway?

I'd be very interested to hear your reply :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neolestat 1 uk (talkcontribs) 23:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Halo (motion picture)[edit]

Re: WP:AIV[edit]

Hi! Thank you for your WP:AIV report. I believe your report is valid; however, you voiced it in the wrong forum. WP:AIV is for obvious and persistent vandals and spammers. For more complicated cases, WP:ANI is the place to go. Thanks! — madman bum and angel 07:36, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Annie in Wonderland[edit]

I have that problem with AMG sometimes, too. :) Sometimes it works better in Explorer; sometimes it doesn't. Very frustrating when working on album articles! Anyway, glad to help out. --Moonriddengirl 18:26, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Phenomenon (philosophy)[edit]

At WP:PHYSICS we have reached the consensus that the two definitions of phenomenon (the physics one and the philosophy one) deserve separate pages as they are separate concepts. I am in the process of giving these topics their own pages. Right now the there is information in the philosophy phenomenon page that over laps the information in the physics phenomenon page but this will soon change. Could you please not delete the page? Sorry about the misunderstanding- I guess I should have left a note on the discussion page. Thanks Beast of traal T C _ 01:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Beast of traal

Oh no. Sorry. The Phenomenon (philosophy) page is about philosophy. The pages were just reorganized. Before Phenomenon was a philosophy/physics page and Physical Phenomenon was a physics page. What we have done is merge the information on the physics definition to one page and move the philosophy information to another page. It is possible that the page "Phenomenon" could be used as a disambiguation page for Phenomenon (philosophy) and a "Phenomenon (physics)"page, but since the physical definition is the primary one we used "Phenomenon" page for physics. Is this enough of an explanation for you to remove the delete tag? Thanks and sorry about the miscommunication, Beast of traal T C _ 01:36, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Beast of traal

It was my fault- I wasn't very clear. Thanks for being so understanding.Beast of traal T C _ 01:44, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Beast of traal

Re: Speedy Tags[edit]

I used the tag I used because both are equally valid for this article; its a spam article of a non-notable corporation. One or the other is enough for an admin to speedy-delete the article. db-spam is usually reserved for articles that read like advertisement expressely, such as those containing phone numbers, contact information, and "menus" of services provided. However, I have never seen that an admin has been so arbitrary as to refuse to delete an article for so small an issue as a disagreement over which db tag to use. If the db tag gets disputed, then bring it up for AFD and further discussion. Anything else I can help you with? --Jayron32|talk|contribs 01:40, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

db-attack and db-copyvio are usually deleted within seconds for liability reasons; other db's require endorsement (IIRC) of atleast 2 admins, often they are left up for a few hours to give the article creators a chance to place the hangon tag and explain themselves, per WP:BITE. Otherwise, keep fighting the good fight! --Jayron32|talk|contribs 01:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)


Hi mate...sorry about making a stuff up in a speedy deletion tag.

I have only recently started to learn how to do it to try to be a better Wikipedian. Please accept my appology as I will try harder next time to place in the correct tag. FITE DEMOND 03:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Man U R Tops[edit]

Thanks, Rodhulloandemu, for your help on entry Alex Finlayson and for being one of the blessed Wikipedia army of objectifiers. Vidamasvida 03:38, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:LostOpera.jpg)[edit]



Hey, you prodded the article on the Hogettes. The prod was removed, but there is clear indication of notability. The group was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame, and there are plenty of references now to show that the group has receieved multiple, non-trivial references in reliable sources (see [[WP:N). I hope you no longer object to the article. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 01:59, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

German collective guilt[edit]


Having trouble with the AfD for this & can't find where I'm going wrong. Thanks.

You seem to have been trying to create the AfD by hand; there's a template {{afd2}} that carries out the necessary steps on the nomination page (I've corrected it for you). See Template:AfD in 3 steps for detailed instructions on how to create an AfD. --ais523 17:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Shedding (biology)[edit]

Its okay. The creator, an admin, deleted the page and merge it to Moult. I'll make it a redirect to that page. --Lenticel (talk) 01:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Christine Andersen[edit]

No problem, happy to help. When the link was added to the Log page, it cut off the (2nd nomination) tag. The result was that it tried to transclude an AfD for Christine Andersen - which doesn't exist, since the current one is the 2nd nom. I've seen a few nominations like this one, all second nominations - so maybe that has something to do with it. No worries, it's up now. Best, ZZ Claims ~ Evidence 14:07, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm on it[edit]

[3]REDVEЯS has a new (red) iPod 18:40, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

License tagging for Image:Transistor2.jpg[edit]

Fixed. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 23:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Integrated Support Command Ketchikan[edit]

This is db-copyvio, not nonsense. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 00:32, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, I wasn't able to tell. jj137 (Talk) 00:33, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Just drop a quoted sentence into Google, usually works. If you get several hits, put -wikipedia in the query. Usually narrows down the source. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 00:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, yes, although I knew copyvio or not, it was getting deleted (more than likely). jj137 (Talk) 00:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
The difference is that copyvios and attacks can cause legal liability for the Foundation, so they are priorities for the deleting admins, and tagging editors. And if someone had put a hangon on the page, the copyvio would have been publicly visible in the meantime, possibly to the copyright owner. Not good. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 00:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Yes, yes, definitely. I didn't realize just how important copyvios are...I should spend some time on that. Thanks for the help. jj137 (Talk) 01:53, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


Thanks for the comment. I'll do that next time. Thedjatclubrock :) (T/C) 10:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC).

Your note on my talk page[edit]

I got your note regarding the notability tag on my talk page and replied there. I also added a note to the talk page of the article. Can we keep the discussion on the talk page for the article moving forward please? It might be useful for other editors of that article to be able to easily find the discussion. Rray 22:30, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletions[edit]

Thank you for new-page patrolling for articles that should be deleted. However, I noticed you have tagged a number of valid stubs for speedy deletion on the basis of lack of content. Please review criterion for speedy deletion A3; if a very short article contains content, as for example the CSI episode articles do, it is not eligible for speedy deletion under A3. Thank you. --Ginkgo100talk 02:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Fair use images in userspace[edit]

Hi, fair use images are not allowed (the policy reads: "never") in userpages. Thanks. El_C 03:29, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Also someone wrote a pretty good essay about the enforcement of this policy here. It should help explain the thinking of the admins who've been removing the images.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 03:31, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

I accept that, despite other use pages apparently having images on their pages. What I do object to is an admin, Jeffrey O. Gustafson, peremptorily deleting such images without explanation as an apparent revenge attack on what he should have taken as constructive comment on his talk page. He didn't even bother replying, just deleted. As an aspirant admin myself I would never, never, never, assume such godly powers, and although I have raised this at WP:ANI, I think it needs to go further up the tree. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 03:37, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

You said the pics were removed "despite other use pages apparently having images on their pages." My user page, which you appear to have accidentally edited[4], currently has a wonderful picture, but it's a free image, not a copyrighted one. That's the difference.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 04:09, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate it. Do you need my help with that? El_C 03:42, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Rodhullandemu, as an aspiring admin, you need to know our policies, including the extremely clear policy that non-free images are NEVER allowed in user space. This is because non-free images are only allowed where they will help improve an article about a subject and there is no free alternative. Since userpages can never do this (since they are not articles), they can never have non-free images. SWATJester Denny Crane. 19:22, 14 October 2007 (UTC)


There was no retaliation. The message you left me I reverted because it was both off-base, and mildly inappropriate, and I frequently blank my talk page. My removal of the images from your user space was proper and supported by policy, and something I do whenever I see such violations. That three other admins have told you as much, yet you still see a reason to "go further" in some sort of vendetta against me for enforcing policy is ill advised. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 03:46, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you're overreacting?[edit]

See [5]. Jeffrey's edit summary ("Fair Use images are not permitted in the User Space") explains the policy quite clearly. You dismissed his edit as vandalism, and you thought he was out to get you. As far as I see, Jeffrey was enforcing policy, and he did not come here with malicious intent. I think you need to take a breather, and re-examine the situation again. Thanks, Nishkid64 (talk) 05:03, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, you shouldn't quit over this. And there's a lot of cool free pictures in Commons with which to decorate your User page.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 05:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: American Music Awards of 2007[edit]

What the hell are you talking about? Did you even read the article? None of it was plagiarized and the link you gave is the source of the information! I expect you to stop this at once. – Zntrip 23:27, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Are you serious? All I did was fix the problem. Walla, it's no longer a copyright violation, so what's the big deal? It seems like you are overreacting. – Zntrip 23:56, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson[edit]

OK. Let's cool down. When I first began editing here, I found my edits to Tove Jensen rejected by User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson because they were original research. Fair enough. I didn't understand the rules, but now I do, and I'm still learning. I doubt if there's anyone who has a full grasp of all the rules and guidelines. That's a good thing, because WP is an organic entity with fluid boundaries. In the current situation, having kept a close eye on User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson, because I was seriously worried about his objectivity, and his style of admin, I messaged him on his talk page to express my concerns. This was intended to be helpful and to indicate that to ordinary editors such as myself that his style was confrontational rather than constructive. His response was to blank already uploaded images on my user page, without explanation. This is not constructive, in my view, it's revenge. As a result, I remain to be convinced that User:Jeffrey O. Gustafson is psychologically fit to remain as an admin on Wikipedia. I'm sorry, Jeffrey has many good qualities, but in my considered opinion they are outweighed by his apparent God-complex tempered with his intolerance and tendency to snipe. Just my POV, and I'm fairly new, but just look at my edit record. I want WP to be informative and entertaining, without being trivial. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 04:05, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

(Sorry to butt in!) you should try to speak it up with him again, Jeffrey has been involved in several of this conflicts because of his tendency to bite other users, actually he was temporally de-sysoped because of this not so long ago, if he continues just take it directly to the arbitration comitee since he is repeating the behaviour that caused all that trouble back then. - Caribbean~H.Q. 04:22, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think he was targeting you due to some past interaction (it's possible, but highly unlikely); also, my impression is that he is trying to address the issues that brought on the arbitration (although there does appear to be some potential regression, I'm not sure that applies for this case) — whether these efforts are, objectively, good enough, might be subject to debate. I, for one, believe that the best thing would be to move past this incident. I certainly don't think it makes sense for you to leave over it, so I hope that you will reconsider. Best wishes, El_C 10:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Johnny Vegas[edit]

Why does someone keep editing the Vegas article saying that hes dead? He's not dead, is he?Ummagumma23 22:13 23 October 2007 (UTC).