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I'm a long term user and have been an admin on or off for a decade. That makes me a bit stuck in my ways but I have the benefit of experience and working through many of the changes that have left us where we are.

A BLP is a serious matter and needs to be properly sourced.

I mostly work on deletion discussions. I am willing to userfy deleted articles for improvement as long as there is a reasonable likelihood that they can be saved.

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Please don't leave talkback templates as I always watchlist pages when I edit and I'm perfectly capable of looking for a reply myself.
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Page Deletion Appeal of Brendan Cusack[edit]

Hello, I have only seen that my page “Brendan Cusack” is going to be deleted based on ill-informed voting in the past 24 hours. The information used as a basis for deletion was incorrect. I believe that the deletion process started on August 3rd while I was away and have read that the page will be deleted in 7 days which would be August 10th. I would appreciate if you could extend this time period as I am contesting the deletion and will send you an extensive email explaining how and why the subject of my page (myself) meets the general notability guidelines by providing accurate performance results and external links to reliable international secondary sources.

Thank you, Brendan Cusack

Clarification and Proof[edit]

Hello, as I wrote to you on August 10th, I had seen that the Wikipedia page about me entitled “Brendan Cusack” was to be deleted based on ill-informed voting. The information used as a basis for deletion was incorrect. I believe that the deletion process started on August 3rd, while I was away, and I have read that the page would be deleted in 7 days which would have been August 10th.

To further clarify, the title of this page is my name and the content within consists of my information and a partial amount of my performance results. I did not create nor edit this page at any time. I was once close to the creator but never was updated nor informed that the page would be deleted. I can prove that I am notable as a person in Irish Fencing and in Fencing in general. I also can prove my print and online media is not just local but National and International. These were the issues that were of concern in the Talk page.

As I requested, I would appreciate if you could extend this time period as I am contesting the deletion and have provided documentation below (including accurate performance results and external links to reliable international secondary sources) which supports my position that the subject of the page "Brendan Cusack" (myself) meets the general notability guidelines. Please see below for the evidence and documentation supporting the continued online publication through Wikipedia of this page. Derul92 (talk) 23:46, 12 August 2018 (UTC) Brendan Cusack


General notability guideline: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list.

I have received significant coverage from reliable sources local, state, international(Ireland and UK) print and online media. Please review the links below.

Profile on IFF(Irish Fencing Federation): https://irishfencing.net/squad/athlete-profiles/brendan-cusack/

UK Olympic qualifier: https://metro.co.uk/2012/04/20/irish-fencer-brendan-cusack-ready-for-olympic-qualifier-396860/

2010 Irish Open: https://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/12/prweb4886504.htm

Bronze Medal in France: https://irishsport.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/5.Review_2011.pdf

International Press: https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/irelands-brendan-cusack-celebrates-his-victory-against-news-photo/809390024#/irelands-brendan-cusack-celebrates-his-victory-against-hungarys-in-picture-id809390024

https://www.gettyimages.at/detail/nachrichtenfoto/irelands-brendan-cusack-in-action-against-hungarys-nachrichtenfoto/809390006#/irelands-brendan-cusack-in-action-against-hungarys-lorenzo-mazza-in-picture-id809390006

Irish Media: https://www.sportsnewsireland.com/uncategorized/87233/

2014 Irish Herald Euros: https://www.herald.ie/sport/irish-trio-to-attempt-cold-channel-swim-30352785.html

IFF Facebook Congratulatory Media: https://www.facebook.com/FencingIreland/photos/congratulations-to-brendan-cusack-on/1035836279802836/

IFF Articles: December, 13, 2010 https://www.prweb.com/releases/2010/12/prweb4886504.htm

April, 20, 2012 https://metro.co.uk/2012/04/20/irish-fencer-brendan-cusack-ready-for-olympic-qualifier-396860/

June, 9, 2014 https://irishfencing.net/day-1-for-irish-team-in-strasbourg-european-championships/

October, 18, 2015 https://irishfencing.net/l128-in-san-jose-for-cusack/

June, 20, 2016 https://irishfencing.net/europeans-day-1-l32-for-brendan-cusack/

September, 24, 2016 https://irishfencing.net/mens-foilists-start-season-at-amsterdam-satellite/

October, 24, 2016 https://irishfencing.net/cancun-foil-satellite-cusack-places-9th/

February, 10, 2017 https://irishfencing.net/fie-world-cup-foil-cusack-reaches-top-half-at-bonn/

March, 17, 2017 https://irishfencing.net/fie-grand-prix-foil-cusack-qualifies-for-euros-and-worlds-in-long-beach/

July, 20, 2017 https://irishfencing.net/world-championships-2017-day-2-results/

November, 11,2017 https://irishfencing.net/fie-world-cup-foil-tokyo-cusack-makes-the-cut-at-prince-takamodo-trophy/

"Significant coverage" addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. The book-length history of IBM by Robert Sobel is plainly non-trivial coverage of IBM. Martin Walker's statement, in a newspaper article about Bill Clinton,[1] that "In high school, he was part of a jazz band called Three Blind Mice" is plainly a trivial mention of that band. "Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.

In order to compete at International Events such as World Cups, Grand Prix, and especially Championship events you must qualify per country. In Ireland the qualification requirements change annually but are consistently based upon the fencer's proven performance otherwise the Irish Fencing Federation will deny the fencer the opportunity to compete. Stating that I have only won one match in all of Senior World Championships is completely untrue. As documented in the list of results posted below, I had 12 Wins in 4 World Championships. Also European Championships is known to be the harder of the 2 events as Europe has the best fencers as a continent (as evident through the FIE International Rankings on fie.org). In European Championships I have come 16th, 26th, and 48th place in this event. I also was ranked 17th under 20 (among fencers under the age of 20) in the world beating some of the best fencers and coming 3rd in France as a Junior. I am the most accomplished Men’s Foil fencer in the history of Ireland (as evident through my posted overall international results -- see below). I have done limited competitions in the past year due to several reasons, including family obligations and financial constraint. As my results below clearly illustrate, I have been the best, most active, and publicized fencer representing Ireland. Below are a list of my results with links to the individual sources.

INTERNATIONAL RESULTS

INTERNATIONAL JUNIOR RESULTS FOR MEN’S FOIL “Fie.org” Junior International: 2009/2010 End of Year Ranking: 58th

Competition: Montreal, Canada, World Cup Result: 6th/48 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2010/53/results/rank

Competition: Viana Do Castelo, Portugal, World Cup Result: 26th/91 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2010/59/results/rank

Competition: Baku, Azerbaijan, World Championship Result: 39th/106 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2010/226/results/rank

Junior International: 2010/2011 End of Year Ranking: 33rd

Competition: Luxembourg, World Cup Result: 17th/60 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2011/47/results/rank

Competition: London, Great Britain, World Cup Result: 55th/133 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2011/382/results/rank

Competition: Aix-En-Provence, France, World Cup Result: 3rd/89 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2011/49/results/rank

Competition: Mer Morte, Jordan, World Championship Result: 30th/114 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2011/226/results/rank

Competition: Modling, Austria Result: 55th/137 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2011/55/results/rank

Junior International: 2011/2012 End of Year Ranking: 58th

Competition: Luxembourg, World Cup Result: 28th/131 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2012/47/results/rank

Competition: Bratislava, Slovakia, World Cup Result: 39th/148 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2012/45/results/rank

Competition: London, Great Britain, World Cup Result: 47th/144 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2012/382/results/rank

Competition: Porec, Croatia, European Championships Result: 18/64 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2012/352/results/rank

Competition: Moscow, Russia, World Championships Result: 22nd/122 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2012/226/results/rank


INTERNATIONAL SENIOR RESULTS FOR MEN’S FOIL “Fie.org” Senior International: 2009/2010 End of Year Ranking:280

Competition: Montreal, Canada, World Cup Result: 37th/75 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2010/463/results/rank

Senior International: 2010/2011 End of Year Ranking:105

Competition: Sheffield, London, European Championships Result: 16th/70 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2011/741/results/rank

Competition: Catania, Italy, World Championships Result: 103/156 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2011/244/results/rank

Senior International: 2011/2012 End of Year Ranking:181

Competition: Amsterdam, Netherlands, Satellite Result: 18th/77 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2012/392/results/rank

Competition: London, Great Britain, Satellite Result: 34th/142 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2012/391/results/rank

Competition: Venice, Italy, Grand Prix Result: 85th/156 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2012/140/results/rank

Competition: Legnano, Italy, European Championships Result: 48th/71 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2012/741/results/rank


Senior International: 2012/2013 End of Year Ranking:247

Competition: Paris, France, World Cup Result: 105th/180 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2013/135/results/rank


Senior International: 2013/2014 End of Year Ranking:11

Competition: Strasbourg, France, European Championships Result: 56th/76 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2014/741/results/rank

Competition: Kazan, Russia, World Championships Result: 60th/133 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2014/244/results/rank


Senior International: 2014/2015 End of Year Ranking:406

Competition: Moscow, Russia, World Championships Result: 98th/157 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2015/244/results/rank


Senior International: 2015/2016 End of Year Ranking:124

Competition: San Jose, USA, World Cup Result: 125th/191 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2016/135/results/rank

Competition: Cancun, Mexico, Satellite Result: 16th/68 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2016/1219/results/rank

Competition: Havana, Cuba, Grand Prix Result: 89th/141 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2016/140/results/rank

Competition: Torun, Poland, European Championships Result: 26th/66 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2016/741/results/rank


Senior International: 2016/2017 End of Year Ranking:260 Competition: Amsterdam, Netherlands, Satellite Result: 24th/107 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2017/392/results/rank

Competition: Cancun, Mexico, Satellite Result: 9th/32 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2017/391/results/rank

Competition: London, Great Britain, Satellite Result: 85th/202 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2017/1219/results/rank

Competition: Long Beach California Result: 77th/142 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2017/140/results/rank


Senior International: 2017/2018 End of Year Ranking:647

Competition: Tokyo, Japan, World Cup Result: 112th/177 Link: http://fie.org/competitions/2018/137/resuBEST lts/rank


IRISH FENCING RESULTS

IRISH SENIOR RESULTS FOR MEN’S FOIL “Irishfencing.net”


2007/2008 Unable to retrieve in archive my first competition where I came 2nd.

2008/2009 Competition: Irish National Championships Result: 3rd/26 Link: https://irishfencing.net/results/results-archive-2008-9/#Nationals200809


2010/2011 Competition: South of Ireland Open Result: 1st/30 Link: https://irishfencing.net/results/results-archive-2010-11/#IO201011

2012/2013 Competition: Irish Open Result:2nd/36 Link: https://irishfencing.net/results/results-archive-2012-13/#IO201213

2015/2016 Competition: South of Ireland Open Result: 1st/24 Link: https://irishfencing.net/results/south-of-ireland-2015/

Competition: West of Ireland Open Result: 1st/17 Link: https://irishfencing.net/results/west-of-ireland-open-2015/

Competition: Irish Open Result: 2nd/23 Link: https://irishfencing.net/results/irish-open-2015/


For my results in the USA besides National Competitions please use this link Askfred.net.

https://askfred.net/Results/search.php?ops%5Bfirst_name%5D=first_name&vals%5Bfirst_name%5D=Brendan&ops%5Blast_name%5D=last_name&vals%5Blast_name%5D=Cusack&f%5Bweapon%5D=&ops%5Bdate_1%5D=date_1_eq&vals%5Bdate_1%5D=&ops%5Bdate_2%5D=date_2_eq&vals%5Bdate_2%5D=&f%5Bclub_id%5D=&f%5Bcompetitor_division_id%5D=&ops%5Bplace%5D=place_eq&vals%5Bplace%5D=&f%5Bevent_gender%5D=&f%5Bage_limit%5D=&f%5Bevent_rating_limit%5D=&ops%5Bevent_rating%5D=event_rating_eq&vals%5Bevent_rating%5D=&f%5Bis_team%5D=&ops%5Brating_earned%5D=eq&vals%5Brating_earned_letter%5D=&vals%5Brating_earned_year%5D=&f%5Btournament_name_contains%5D=&FREDSID=s857sioebkuablhu8anl0otd77&search_submit=Search


"Sources"[2] should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected.

All my newspaper articles (Local, State, National, and International) are posted by reputable sources. Although some of these articles have been deleted I have most of the original copies of my newspaper articles. There are also accessible photos of me on the FIE as well as videos on their youtube channel showing my fencing.


[3] Sources do not have to be available online or written in English. Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability.

The newspaper and media coverage regarding my performance came from several different reliable secondary sources.


"Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not considered independent.[4]


Each of the sources documenting my results and overall performance are independent of the subject, were not produced by me or any known affiliate.


"Presumed" means that significant coverage in reliable sources creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject merits its own article. A more in-depth discussion might conclude that the topic actually should not have a stand-alone article—perhaps because it violates what Wikipedia is not, particularly the rule that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.[5] If a topic does not meet these criteria but still has some verifiable facts, it might be useful to discuss it within another article.

It is clear from International performance results, prominence as an Irish Fencer, and the reputable online and print media coverage which I received, that the subject of the page "Brendan Cusack" merits its own article.

Excerpts from Articles for Deletion discussion for page "Brendan Cusack" and counter-arguments/evidence:

The result was delete. Spartaz Humbug! 14:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC) Brendan Cusack[edit source] New to AfD? Read these primers! [Permanently hide this box] · Introduction to deletion process · Guide to deletion (glossary) · Help, my article got nominated for deletion! Brendan Cusack (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats) (Find sources: "Brendan Cusack" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · HighBeam · JSTOR · free images · free news sources · The Wikipedia Library · NYT · WP reference) This person is not notable in any way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.251.57.77 (talk) I disagree with this statement as I am the most active and best overall Irish Men's Foilist in the history of the sport in Ireland, as evidenced by my results and media coverage listed above which clearly document that I am notable in Irish fencing and in the sport as a whole.

Below is further additional information that has not been posted on Wikipedia which may help my results and accomplishments to be better understood during this appeal.

Reached 17th Under 20 in the World (at one point 2011)

Competed in 2 Olympic Qualifiers (only the best person from each country is able to attend)

Only Irish Junior to Medal at World Cup (3rd Aix-En-Provence, France in 2011)

First Irish Men’s Foilist to reach top 16 at Senior European Championships (Sheffield, England 2011)

Results comprise nearly half of the points in Senior International events for Ireland throughout all 3 weapons and both genders, all combined from 2010/2011 season to the 2017/2018 season (points determine world ranking). My total points amount to 32, whild other Irish Fencers combined points amount to 40.5. I would be happy to give you more information to elaborate if requested.

Won New Jersey State Individuals (as well as coming 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in the years prior to that)

Achieved the highest rating in the USA, which is an "A," at only 15 Years old and renewed it every year that I competed in the USA.

Coached at 3 Different Clubs in the USA. Clinton Fencing Club, Manchen Fencing, and Kids Can Fence.

Certified by the USFCA (United States Fencing Coaches Association)


NOTABLE PEOPLE I HAVE FENCED AGAINST PEOPLE I HAVE HAD WINS AGAINST IN THE TOP 50 OVERALL IN THE WORLD CURRENTLY

  1. 6 Safin, Timur(Junior World Champion, Senior World Champion, was ranked #1 Overall in World, Currently ranked #6 in World, 11 time Medalist in Seniors Internationally)
  1. 20 Alexander, Choupenitch (8 Time Medalist in Seniors Internationally)
  1. 21 Pauty, Maxime (Gold Medalist in Seniors Internationally)
  1. 23 Van Haaster, Maximilien (3 Time Medalist in Seniors Internationally)
  1. 24 Huang, Menkai (Medalist in Seniors Internationally)
  1. 25 Cheung, Siu Lin (Current Asian Champion and Gold Medalist in Seniors Internationally)
  1. 34 Matsuyama, Kyosuke (Previously Asian Champion in Seniors Internationally)
  1. 35 Tofalides, Alex(2 Time Medalist in Seniors Internationally)
  1. 44 Ferjani, Mohamed Ayoub(Previously African Champion, 11 Time Medalist in Seniors Internationally)


PEOPLE I HAVE FENCED AGAINST IN THE TOP 10 OVERALL IN THE WORLD CURRENTLY


  1. 1 Only lost 3-5 against Alessio Foconi, (Current World Champion,Currently Ranked World #1, and 13 time Medalist in Seniors Internationally )
  1. 5 Only lost 9-15 against Alexey Cheremisinov (World Champion, was Ranked #1 Overall in World for a whole year, Currently Ranked #5 Overall in World, and 16 time Medalist in Seniors Internationally .
  1. 6 Won against Timur Safin, 5-3(Junior World Champion, Senior World Champion, was ranked #1 Overall in World, Currently ranked #6 in World, 11 time Medalist in Seniors Internationally )
  1. 7 Only lost 11-15 against Daniele Garozzo(Olympic Gold Medalist in Seniors Internationally , was Ranked #1 Overall in World, Currently Ranked #7 Overall in World, and 13 time Medalist in Seniors Internationally )
  1. 8 Only lost 9-15 against Alexander Massialas(Olympic Silver Medalist in Seniors Internationally at World Championship, was Ranked #1 Overall in World, Currently Ranked #8 in World, and 27 time Medalist in Seniors Internationally )
  1. 9 Only lost 8-15 against Erwan Le Pechoux(Was Ranked #2 in the World, Currently Ranked #9 Overall in World, and 32 time Medalist in Seniors Internationally)


Keep. Participated in more than one World Championships, I think. See also "Fencer - CUSACK Brendan Francis - IRELAND - FIE - International Fencing Federation". Eastmain (talk • contribs) 05:18, 19 July 2018 (UTC) He competed at 4 adult world championships, but only won 1 match so he never advanced past the round of 64. His highest world ranking ever was 105th. I added this information to the article. As for his notability, the coverage appears to be local and/or routine sports reporting. I don't think his performances rise to the level of meeting WP:NSPORTS, but others may disagree. I'm refraining from voting at this moment. Papaursa (talk) 20:10, 23 July 2018 (UTC)


It seems like Papaursa is trying to sway the person in the other direction with misguided information as my results show I have won 12 matches in World Championships. Saying I only won one match is completely untrue.

I was told by Wikipedia in chat that you would check into the issue more closely before making any decisions and would appreciate your objective analysis of the information I have given.


delete The FIE Senior World Championships are an annual event with nearly 1000 competitors. Don't believe just being there is sufficient to give automatic notability and he hasn't had much success there. Coverage does not meet the GNG.Sandals1 (talk) 14:41, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

This comment is inaccurate. 1000 competitors over 3 weapons and 2 genders compose the participants in 6 separate events. Only 4 people from each country are allowed to attend. Saying that I have not had much success at these events is untrue. A top 64, which I reached at the 2014 World Championships in Kazan, Russia is a significant accomplishment for any fencer. The round of 64 is very difficult to reach in the second hardest event next to European Championships, at which I have been highly successful overall. Assuming my results would not improve when, in 2016, I came 26th in European Championships as well as earning the 16th and 9th positions in the Cancun Satellite event in 2016 and 2017, show my results have not been tracked properly.


§ Delete The sources are routine sports coverage, primarily of high school and FIE junior events, which is insufficient to meet WP:GNG. As for meeting WP:NSPORT, Sandals1 makes a good point about the size of the FIE world championships. This level of performance as a karateka, judoka, or taekwondo practitioner would never qualify as meeting the notability criteria of WP:MANOTE or WP:NSPORTS. Many people with more successful international careers have been eliminated at Afd discussions (yes, I know about WP:OTHERSTUFF). I don't think mere participation at annual events this large shows notability without either better coverage or better results. A current world ranking of 647th indicates he's trending in the wrong direction and is unlikely to become more notable as a fencer. Papaursa (talk) 00:40, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

My results are significant, as my results demonstrate that I have been the best Irish Fencer for nearly a decade, which can be referenced with my statistics and sources above. Sandals1 is wrong about the way in which fencing works and how many people are allowed to compete per event; those 1000 people are not all going to the same event (please refer to my results regarding World Championships). That is 6 different weapons/genders only the top 4 from each country are even allowed to compete if they make their country's qualifications. Comparing fencing to other sports is completely unfair unless you take this into account. My notability is not merely based upon simply participating in an event, it is based on my results INTERNATIONALLY not just in Ireland. “Unlikely to become more notable as a fencer:” This comment is inaccurate and uninformed; I have already achieved the results necessary to be considered a notable fencer. Below is a search I did on other Irish Fencers that are considered notable on Wikipedia. If you use the FIE search page for those dates and people you would see that there are little to no listings which are comparable to mine, aside from one female fencer in Sabre.

FIE Search Page (http://fie.org/results-statistic/result)

Irish Male Fencers considered notable on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_male_fencers)

Irish Woman Fencers considered noteable on WIkipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Irish_female_fencers)

Any Male Irish Fencers listed on Wikipedia competed in the Olympics when you were able to send a pre-determined number of fencers per country, regardless of their results and individual qualification. The rules were changed to a limited amount of people per continent instead of country. Europe is the hardest continent to qualify for fencing, due to the number of high-ranking international fencers. The Irish fencers listed as notable only participated in the Olympic Games up until around the 1950s, when each country was allowed to send fencers regardless of results. Going to the Olympics when every Country was allowed to send competitors should not be justification alone to be notable. I have been the most recognized Irish fencer with results never achieved by other Irish fencers in the history of the sport in Ireland.

Derul92 (talk) 23:46, 12 August 2018 (UTC) Brendan Cusack