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Proposed deletion of The Drinks Group Holdings, Ltd.[edit]

Thanks Pjarkur for stopping by and explaining the reasons for the proposed deletion. Very clear and helpful. I will look into the points you mentioned within the 7 days and get back to you.

I spend a lot of time reading the Help files, getting squared eyed. :-) so my apologies for not getting it right this time.

Kind regards Pauline17138 (talk) 00:04, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Not to worry, there are far more "guidelines" here than anyone could be expected to know from the start, you just slowly get used to them the more you edit :) – Thjarkur (talk) 16:03, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
:-) Thank you. By the way, I've edited the article. Is this better? Also I've removed the deletion notice just in case you don't read this message before the page is deleted.
Kind regards - Pauline17138 (talk) 16:24, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
The text of the article is fine, the only problem is the lack of independant sources which would demonstrate notability. – Thjarkur (talk) 16:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
I see. Oh well, back to the drawing board. Thanks. --Pauline17138 (talk) 18:39, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi Pjarkur, I've updated with a new entry and reference number 2 and 3. Does this pass? :-) --Pauline17138 (talk) 18:32, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Not quite since this is neither significant coverage nor coverage of the company itself. But I would just let it sit for a little while, the article would probably not survive a deletion discussion if someone were to nominate it since available sources are so scarce, so I would just focus on other articles instead. – Thjarkur (talk) 19:17, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

No problem. This process has been really good for me to learn how things work. I've taken your advice and contributed to a couple of articles recently, just a couple of sentences here and there. Will do more. Thanks for all you help. :-) --Pauline17138 (talk) 11:09, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

About the Manish Singh (entrepreneur)[edit]

With due respect, the article Manish Singh (entrepreneur) created by me qualifies as a biography stub as it is at least supported by two reliable and independent sources: Deccan Chronicle, International Business Standard and even Hindustan (e-newspaper), according these are accepted as reliable sources by many Indian Wikipedia projects here. I do consider that this article was created was out of the blue as i mainly focuses on science and astronomy article. Because, As i was learning on the Internet about Marketing, I was surprised to see a person who is cited so many times lacks a Wikipedia page at a first place hence created an article for him.

Please reconsider the article and its Paid creation tag, if not keeping it in Article space. I would recommend article deletion through discussion.

--PlanetAakash (talk) 01:15, 30 March 2020 (UTC)


  • I'm a bit perplexed by this. The user is supposedly an astronomer who is here to work on a backlog of astronomical bodies lacking articles. Normally I wouldn't grant autopatrolled to these kinds of single-purpose stub creators for exactly this reason, but given the incredibly uncontentious and academic project the user was supposedly here to work on, it seemed to make sense. Needless to say, an immediate shift to creating an article like this is extremely suspicious. However, looking at the article, the subject has been individually featured in-depth in numerous pieces by what appear to be reliable sources. These sources laud the subject as an extraordinary individual, to the point where they read like ads. I see you've dismissed these sources as "paid sources". What do you mean by this? They're sponsored, promotional articles that someone paid these sources to run? I would believe that, but how can you actually tell? From what I'm seeing, there's no indication whatsoever that they're not genuine journalistic pieces. For example, the IBT piece is attributed to the "IBT news desk". I would think "bought" articles would have some disclaimer that they're not vetted and written by the agency itself. Do you know this to not be the case? It's hard for me to tell whether the article is notable or promotional at face value, and whether the sources are legit is essential in determining this. ~Swarm~ {sting} 03:30, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Yeah, ~Swarm~, I do agree that i created this stub out of the blue, as i have stated earlier I am here to majorly focus on astronomy article that too on NGC objects as of now. But, during quarantine, i was learning about Digital marketing, and i surfed the internet i came across this person and though i was dubious about few claims, he seemed to me a fairly legit notable person, from the sources above. Hence, i thought why not create a stub, moreover contribute to Wikipedia overall as well. --PlanetAakash (talk) 04:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
    • And just to make things clear, this article was not a paid at all. Out of curiosity to explore Wikipedia further, I created an off-astronomy article. But, this does not mean that i did not read the guidelines of a Biography article. A read all of them in summary form, and then created this. Though, I might have crossed few guidelines but overall notability and independent reliable sourcing for article I kept in mind while creating the same. I sincerely apologise if this article seems as a paid one however that was not my intention. --PlanetAakash (talk) 06:12, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
  • @Swarm: All of these articles about entrepreneurs and up-and-coming marketing consultants use the exact same constellation of sources: DeccanChronicle, International Business Time, Asian Age, The India Saga, and PopDiares via YahooNews. They always use the same image, they all say essentially the same thing, and they are always published on the same day/week (19 July 2019 in this case). The extreme puffery and claims of notability are then never verifiable. If I recall correctly it's Vivek.k.Verma's paid sockfarm that commonly uses this pattern. It is inconceivable that the five aforementioned sources happen to always publish similar puff pieces on obviously non-notable fitness trainers and consultants on the same day (in addition to being used by confirmed paid editors) without them being sponsored content. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:34, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the info, I'll be on the lookout for this going forward. I've also revoked Autopatrolled from the user. Do you think the similarity strong enough for a CU check? ~Swarm~ {sting} 05:16, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
It's a stretch. The last version of this article was made by another spammer. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:15, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Seems like you are mistaken Thjarkur. The Manish Singh (producer) is a actual personality in India. He is a film producer has produced many films earning more than 50 Crores INR. It seems obvious that someone likely to spammer has vandalised the actual article, and then made it for Manish Singh - Enterpreneur. If you can in someway, look into last article, please check if it was for Manish Singh (producer) before vandalism. PlanetAakash (talk) 15:26, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I feel really bad that i fell into the whole spam thing on Wikipedia. I did'nt knew about all things happening on Wiki. Nevertheless, it was a learning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlanetAakash (talkcontribs) 15:29, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Not to worry, there are far more strange norms here than anyone could be expected to know from the start. Actually turns out it was I who tagged Manish Singh (producer) for deletion, I don't remember it well but I'm fairly certain it was the same article as this one that the subject boasts about on his Instagram. I'm going to ask an administrator to see if it was originally a page about the producer. – Thjarkur (talk) 15:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Sure. Please ask an admin to look into this. I am like 90% sure It would have been vandalised. Thanks for support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PlanetAakash (talkcontribs) 15:51, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

  • @Swarm,Thjarkur: I must confess that i did not checked the publishing dates of the sources cited by me while creating article, and was not familiar with the fact that these scam patterns happens on Wikipedia. In no way, I wanted to tarnish the Wikipedia integrity through this. This is an honest mistake and I accept it. Had i been familiar to such scams prior, I would have not contributed with such an article. I must refrain myself to NGC stubs. PlanetAakash (talk) 12:39, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Sajjad Delafrooz article[edit]

Hi why did u remove the article I made about Sajjad Delafrooz the citings were correct Tahmin1 (talk) 18:49, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

As you can see here, it wasn't me who removed the article, another user moved it to drafts. They should ideally have notified you of this, but you can click on the "Submit for review" button when you feel it is adequately sourced (see WP:RS and WP:GNG) – Thjarkur (talk) 19:14, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

about an article you moved to draftspace[edit]


I am new to wikipedia and I am not aware about the policies. However, this particular article is written by a person who knows me and works for me out of love. I do not know if this qualifies him to write an article or not. Also, it seems that there are quite a few links/ references in the article. However, if they are not enough, I can provide with more articles. Now, I dont know if there is any one else in the world who would like to create a page for me or not. As far as I know, there are people who are paid to create pages for themselves. I am not paying any one as this person has done it on it's own.

What can be done now?

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tejasdeoskar (talkcontribs) 12:08, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

Hello Tejasdeoskar, yes it was precisely because it was written by someone too familiar with the subject that it was moved to drafts, there were so many details not verified in the cited sources (in addition to none of the sources containing significant coverage). It's recommended that you submit articles through Articles for Creation if you have a conflict of interest. – Thjarkur (talk) 10:18, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

You’ve commented on my request to add “Dears” to the List of fandom names 29 March[edit]

Hi, your comment was “ I could not find that mentioned in reliable secondary sources, only on his own sites. If you could point to sources demonstrating this is notable, then that would be could. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:14, 29 March 2020 (UTC)”. I added some sources (the next post on their talk page). Not sure though can they be considered “reliable secondary” or not, I am new to Wikipedia, sorry. Could you check, please? If not - could you give me some example, what would be considered so in this situation? Thank you in advance. Vera Kapinos (talk) 01:59, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Have added, thank you for finding these sources! – Thjarkur (talk) 10:28, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much!Vera Kapinos (talk) 16:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 14[edit]

CCTV Headquarters[edit]

Hi - it looks like you moved this page, but not to what the consensus and source-supported title suggests. Could you put it to CCTV Headquarters? Thanks. Bangabandhu (talk) 12:53, 6 April 2020 (UTC)

I was only mass-reverting another editor who had moved quite a few pages that had open move discussions, I don't have an opinion on this one. The move discussion will be closed in a few days. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:04, 6 April 2020 (UTC)