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Request for Collaboration[edit]

The title of this section has been changed, along with the last post here being removed. My comments to this user were far from civil, and have accordingly, been struck. Thor Malmjursson (talk) 23:04, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, I'm sorry my previous post was rude. I appreciate your saying that you accept that not ALL of Wikipedia is biased, but I guess I just wasn't happy with all the things about us you put on your Userpage. If you feel that the point of view of an article is biased, you are most welcome to deal with it. Indeed, if something is wrong, I will help you deal with it. I've been with Wikipedia for quite some years now, and have a habit of fixing things up and correcting POV errors, raising problems, and so on. So if you would like to get some help, feel free to message me. I rescind my previous note to you, and thank you warmly for responding. Thor Malmjursson (talk) 23:04, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Intriguing statement[edit]

Hi there!

I was intrigued by a quote/statement on your user page -

"Don't let the theory of evolution corrupt your mind. Unfortunately, Wikipedia is being used a liberal stronghold that distributes BIASED AND UNFOUNDED "proof" and "evidence" to millions of viewers. Evolution is a hoax and a religion. It is the religion of atheists and Darwinists who relentlessly attempt and fail to find an alternative to God. Unfortunately for them, there IS NO ALTERNATIVE FOR GOD. God created the universe and humanity."

I thought your equation of belief in evolution with a religion was an interesting one, but it made me wonder. On the one hand, there are creationists who believe what they do because of what has been imparted to them by their religion. Their evidence is that presented to them by the wrtings of others (scripture, and their understanding of it), and their own belief that it is true. On the other hand, there are 'evolutionists' (is that a word?), who believe what they do because of what has been imparted to them and, likewise, their evidence is presented to them by the wrtings of others and their own belief that that is true. On that basis, and given the irreconcilability of the two beliefs, how can anyone do any more than say 'here is what I believe, and these are the reasons why'?

I ask because it seems to me that some people who do believe in creation theory discredit their argument by declaiming the 'biased and unfounded "proof" and "evidence"' of the opposing viewpoint, when their own beliefs are based (as the oppsing argument would see it) on nothing more susbstantial or evidential, personal faith aside.

Petecollier (talk) 01:25, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Wikipedia biases[edit]

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Please do not make statements attacking people or groups of people. Wikipedia has a strict policy against personal attacks. Attack pages and images are not tolerated by Wikipedia and are speedily deleted. Users who continue to create or repost such pages and images in violation of our biographies of living persons policywill be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Thank you.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Ttiotsw (talk) 08:30, 16 December 2009 (UTC) (the above is bot driven text which I never typed and doesn't clearly explain my view so this paragraph is written manually).... Adding 3 different directs for various combination of words of "Wikipedia" and "bias" is effectively attacking that "group(s) of people" who are the editors that edit Wikipedia. I'm going to tag for speedily delete the others if this first one is deleted. Ttiotsw (talk) 08:40, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Sandra Bullock[edit]

There is a tenet here that says any categorization requires clear and concise reliable sourcing. If someone puts in an article that so-and-so is an atheist, that statement requires specific sourcing where the person says "I am an atheist". This holds true for the category of Christians. While Bullock may have said she has more faith in people representing a faith, she did not use the interview to affirm that she was a Christian. In fact, the article made it clear she stopped short of saying her faith (as a whole) had been restored. The content as you added it is questionable. Plus I cannot say that this source is accepted as a reliable source. Also please be aware that your "undo" removed edits that occurred after I removed the content. That is not kosher. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:39, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Your signature[edit]

Please consider toning down your signature. It is very colorful and loud, and I find it highly distracting. KillerChihuahua?!?Advice 21:05, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Another website that you might be interested in[edit]

Hi, after seeing some of your comments on the Intelligent design page I can tell that you're frustrated with the liberal agenda on Wikipedia. Remember that your not alone, and in fact a large group of concerned conservatives have put together a much more neutral alternative to this website. If you ever get sick of the obvious agenda of Wikipedia, don't hesitate to create an account at Conservapedia: Shadoom (talk) 05:52, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your work![edit]

I saw your comments on

It's a relief to see people like you with their brains still tacked on and fighting for what's fair in the public corners, like wikipedia. Can't you do an RFC on that page? --COMDER (talk) 00:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Hey. If someone adds changes to your talk page, you'll get a Notice from Wikipedia... but if I changed my talk page to reply to your comments, would you get them? Probably not, right? Anyhow, I want to reply saying: would an RFC on the ID page do anything? COMDER (talk) 14:37, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Shouldn't the evolutionists get their own page to protect, and the intelligentists get their own page? Isn't there a Wiki policy to not edit an entry that goes against your biases? One thing I don't like about wikipedia is that there is no one person to complain to, and cheaters can proliferate with many IP addresses and pretend that they are many people when really they are a few. Wikipedia is only good for neutral articles.... but nonetheless, can't we cite a policy preventing biased editors from editing our page? Perhaps wikipedia should make a "protected" page based on partisans. The only parts of the ID page that evolutionists can edit is the criticisms...and vice versa. COMDER (talk) 16:45, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

download archives[edit]

Hi. Do you know how I can download all the archives of the ID discussion page?

Thanks. COMDER (talk) 18:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

April 2010[edit]

Nuvola apps important.svg You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ica stones. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. Please discuss on the talk page before putting the "not confirmed to be hoax" statement back. You are close to, if not over, the 3rr warning, and will be blocked if you continue. Ravensfire (talk) 23:12, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Personal attack[edit]

Please do not attack other editors as you did here. Not only is it a personal attack, it's a mischaracterization, at least of myself as I am none of those things. This is not a Liberal/Conservative thing, it's a religious thing. Auntie E. (talk) 16:53, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Primetime Propaganda: The True Hollywood Story of How the Left Took Over Your TV[edit]

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June 2011[edit]

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at The Bible and homosexuality, you may be blocked from editing. Scheinwerfermann (talk) 21:46, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

I'm trying to defend the truth against people like you who are distorting the truth. That isn't disruptive editing, no matter how you try and spin it. It isn't's defending what's true. MOST Christian denominations see Romans 1 as against homosexuality, not SOME. -ΙΧΘΥΣ (talk) 22:30, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
We are not here to "Defend" anything. We are here to write an encyclopædia. —Scheinwerfermann T·C22:54, 16 June 2011 (UTC)


Edmund Burke2 c.jpg Please accept this invite to join the Conservatism WikiProject, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to conservatism.
Simply click here to accept! – Lionel (talk) 23:18, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

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Hi, ΙΧΘΥΣ, welcome to WikiProject Conservatism!

We are a growing community of editors dedicated to identifying, categorizing, and improving articles related to conservatism. Here's how you can get involved:

If you have any questions, feel free to ask on the talk page, and we will be happy to help you.

And once again - Welcome!
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The Right Stuff: September 2011[edit]

The Right Stuff
September 2011
An Historic Milestone

By Lionelt

Welcome to the inaugural issue of The Right Stuff, the newsletter of WikiProject Conservatism. The Project has developed at a breakneck speed since it was created on February 12, 2011 with the edit summary, "Let's roll!" With over 50 members the need for a project newsletter is enormous. With over 3000 articles to watch, an active talk page and numerous critical discussions spread over various noticeboards, it has become increasingly difficult to manage the information overload. The goal of The Right Stuff is to help you keep up with the changing landscape.

The Right Stuff is a newsletter consisting of original reporting. Writers will use a byline to "sign" their contributions. Just as with The Signpost, "guidelines such as 'no ownership of articles', and particularly 'no original research', will not necessarily apply."

WikiProject Conservatism has a bright future ahead: this newsletter will allow us tell the story. All that's left to say is: "Let's roll!"

New Style Guide Unveiled

By Lionelt

A new style guide to help standardize editing was rolled out. It focuses on concepts, people and organizations from a conservatism perspective. The guide features detailed article layouts for several types of articles. You can help improve it here. The Project's Article Collaboration currently has two nominations, but they don't appear to be generating much interest. You can get involved with the Collaboration here.

I am pleased to report that we have two new members: Rjensen and Soonersfan168. Rjensen is a professional historian and has access to JSTOR. Soonersfan168 says he is a "young conservative who desires to improve Wikipedia!" Unfortunately we will be seeing less of Geofferybard, as he has announced his semi-retirement. We wish him well. Be sure to stop by their talk pages and drop off some Wikilove.

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3,000th Article Tagged

By Lionelt

On August 3rd Peter Oborne, a British journalist, became the Project's 3,000th tagged article. It is a tribute to the membership that we have come this far this quickly. The latest Featured Article is Richard Nixon. Our congratulations to Wehwalt for a job well done. The article with the most page views was Rick Perry with 887,389 views, not surprising considering he announced he was running for president on August 11th. Follwing Perry were Michele Bachmann and Tea Party movement. The Project was ranked 75th based on total edits, which is up from 105th in July. The article with the most edits was Republican Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2012 with 374 edits. An RFC regarding candidate inclusion criteria generated much interest on the talk page.

The Right Stuff: October 2011[edit]

The Right Stuff
October 2011
An Interview with Dank

By Lionelt

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The Right Stuff caught up with Dank, the recently elected Lead Coordinator of WikiProject Military History. MILHIST is considered by many to be one of the most successful projects in the English Wikipedia.

Q: Tell us a little about yourself.
A: I'm Dan, a Wikipedian since 2007, from North Carolina. I started out with an interest in history, robotics, style guidelines, and copyediting. These days, I'm the lead coordinator for the Military History Project and a reviewer of Featured Article Candidates. I've been an administrator and maintained WP:Update, a summary of policy changes, since 2008.

Q: What is your experience with WikiProjects?
A: I guess I'm most familiar with WP:MILHIST and WP:SHIPS, and I'm trying to get up to speed at WP:AVIATION. I've probably talked with members of most of the wikiprojects at one time or another.

Q: What makes a WikiProject successful?
A: A lot of occasional contributors who think of the project as fun rather than work, a fair number of people willing to write or review articles, a small core of like-minded people who are dedicated to building and maintaining the project, and access to at least a few people who are familiar with reviewing standards and with Wikipedia policies and guidelines.

Q: Do you have any tips for increasing membership?
A: Aim for a consistent, helpful and professional image. Let people know what the project is doing and what they could be doing, but don't push.

If you've got a core group interested in building a wikiproject, it helps if they do more listening than talking at first ... find out what people are trying to do, and offer them help with whatever it is. Some wikiprojects build membership by helping people get articles through the review processes.

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Abortion Case Plods Along

By Lionelt

The arbitration request submitted by Steven Zhang moved into its second month. The case, which evaluates user conduct, arose from contentious discussions regarding the naming of the Pro-life and Pro-choice articles, and a related issue pertaining to the inclusion of "death" in the lede of Abortion. A number of members are involved. On the Evidence page ArtifexMahem posted a table indicating that DMSBel made the most edits to the Abortion article. DMSBel has announced their semi-retirement. Fact finding regarding individual editor behavior has begun in earnest on theWorkshop page.

Last month it was decided that due to the success of the new Dispute Resolution Noticeboard the Content Noticeboard would be shut down. Wikiquette Assistance will remain active. The DRN is primarily intended to resolve content disputes.

Article Incubator Launched

By Lionelt

Was your article deleted in spite of your best efforts to save it? You should consider having a copy restored to the Incubator where project members can help improve it. Upon meeting content criteria, articles are graduated to mainspace. The Incubator is also ideal for collaborating on new article drafts. Star Parker is the first addition to the incubator. The article was deleted per WP:POLITICIAN.


WikiProject Conservatism is expanding. We now have a satellite on Commons. Any help in categorizing images or in getting the fledgling project off the ground is appreciated.

We have a few new members who joined the project in September. Please give a hearty welcome to Conservative Philosopher, Screwball23 and Regushee by showing them some Wikilove. Screwball23 has been on WikiPedia for five years and has made major improvements to Linda McMahon. Regushee is not one for idle chit chat: an amazing 93% of their edits are in article space.

The Right Stuff: November 2011[edit]

The Right Stuff
February 2012
WikiProject Conservatism faces the ultimate test

By Lionelt

On October 7, WikiProject Conservatism was nominated for deletion by member Binksternet. He based his rationale on what he described as an undefinable scope, stating that the project is "at its root undesirable". Of the 40 participants in the discussion, some agreed that the scope was problematic; however, they felt it did not justify deletion of the project. A number of participants suggested moving the project to "WikiProject American conservatism". The overwhelming sentiment was expressed by Guerillero who wrote: "A project is a group of people. This particular group does great work in their topic area[,] why prevent them from doing this[?]" In the end there was negligible opposition to the project and the result of the discussion was "Keep". The proceedings of the deletion discussion were picked up by The Signpost, calling the unfolding drama "the first MfD of its kind". The Signpost observed that attempting to delete an active project was unprecedented. The story itself became a source of controversy which played out at the Discuss This Story section, and also at the author's talk page.

Two days after the project was nominated, the Conservatism Portal was also nominated for deletion as "too US-biased". There was no support for deletion amongst the 10 participants, with one suggestion to rename the portal.


In other news, a new portal focusing on conservatism has been created at WikiSource. Wikisource is an online library of free content publications with 254,051 accessible texts. One highlight of the portal's content is Reflections on the Revolution in France by Edmund Burke.

October saw a 6.4% increase in new members, bringing the total membership to 58. Seven of the eight new members joined after October 12; the deletion discussions may have played a role in the membership spike. Mwhite148 is a member of the UK Conservative Party. Stating that he is not a conservative, Kleinzach noted his "lifetime interest in British, European and international politics." Let's all make an effort to welcome the new members with an outpouring of Wikilove.

Click here to keep up to date on all the happenings at WikiProject Conservatism.

Timeline of conservatism is moved

By Lionelt

Timeline of conservatism, a Top-importance list, was nominated for deletion on October 3. The nominator stated that since conservatism in an "ambiguous concept", the timeline suffers from original research. There were a number of "Delete", as well as "Keep" votes. The closing administrator reasoned that consensus dictated that the list be renamed. The current title is Timeline of modern American conservatism.

The Right Stuff: January 2012[edit]

The Right Stuff
January 2012
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Wikipedia's Newest Featured Portal: Conservatism

By Lionelt

On January 21, The Conservatism Portal was promoted to Featured Portal (FP) due largely to the contributions of Lionelt. This is the first Featured content produced by WikiProject Conservatism. The road to Featured class was rocky. An earlier nomination for FP failed, and in October the portal was "Kept" after being nominated for deletion.

Member Eisfbnore significantly contributed to the successful Good Article nomination of Norwegian journalist and newspaper editor Nils Vogt in December. Eisfbnore also created the article. In January another Project article was promoted to Featured Article. Luís Alves de Lima e Silva, Duke of Caxias, a president of Brazil, attained Featured class with significant effort by Lecen. The Article Incubator saw its first graduation in November. A collaboration spearheaded by Mzk1 and Trackerseal successfully developed Star Parker to pass the notability guideline.

Project Scope Debated

By Lionelt

Another discussion addressing the project scope began in December. Nine alternatives were presented in the contentious, sometimes heated discussion. Support was divided between keeping the exitsing scope, or adopting a scope with more specificity. Some opponents of the specific scope were concerned that it was too limiting and would adversely affect project size. About twenty editors participated in the discussion.

Inclusion of the article Ku Klux Klan (KKK) was debated. Supporters for inclusion cited sources describing the KKK as "conservative." The article was excluded with more than 10 editors participating.


Project membership continues to grow. There are currently 73 members. Member Goldblooded (pictured) volunteers for the UK Conservative Party and JohnChrysostom is a Christian Democrat. North8000 is interested in libertarianism. We won't tell WikiProject Libertarianism he's slumming. Let's stop by their talkpages and share some Wikilove.

Click here to keep up to date on all the happenings at WikiProject Conservatism.

Why is Everyone Talking About Rick Santorum?

By Lionelt

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Articles about the GOP presidential candidate and staunch traditional marriage supporter have seen an explosion of discussion. On January 8 an RFC was opened (here) to determine if Dan Savage's website link should be included in Campaign for "santorum" neologism. The next day the Rick Santorum article itself was the subject of an RFC (here) to determine if including the Savage neologism was a violation of the BLP policy. Soon after a third was opened (here) at Santorum controversy regarding homosexuality. This RFC proposes merging the neologism article into the controversy article.

The Abortion case closed in November after 15 weeks of contentious arbitration. The remedies include semi-protection of all abortion articles (numbering 1,500), sanctions for some editors including members of this Project, and a provision for a discussion to determine the names of what are colloquially known as the pro-life and pro-choice articles. The Committee endorsed the "1 revert rule" for abortion articles.

Ichthus: January 2012[edit]

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Christianity newsletter: New format, new focus[edit]



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Love history & culture? Get involved in WikiProject World Digital Library![edit]

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Hi ΙΧΘΥΣ! I'm the Wikipedian In Residence at the World Digital Library, a project of the Library of Congress and UNESCO. I'm recruiting Wikipedians who are passionate about history & culture to participate in improving Wikipedia using the WDL's vast free online resources. Participants can earn our awesome WDL barnstar and help to disseminate free knowledge from over 100 libraries in 7 different languages. Multilingual editing encouraged!!! But being multilingual is not a necessity to make this project a success. Please sign up to participate here. Thanks for editing Wikipedia and I look forward to working with you! EdwardsBot (talk) 19:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)