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Edit war warning[edit]

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Sourcing[edit]

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@Jytdog: I gave you four sources, all of which supported the info which they were used to cite. I don't understand why you are so intent on deeming whatever source I bring you as insufficient, when in fact the sources I choose are more than sufficient for the info they are used in conjunction with for this very reason. A total of eight sources have been used to cite what you have continuously deleted, and just one of those eight sources would've been enough to support the text. BURDEN is not on me as I have sufficiently cited my info. יבריב (talk) 02:56, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Two things -the actual content, needs actual sources. You cannot post refs at the beginning and then write a bunch of content needs to summarize reliable sources that are cited.
I will comment on sources on the talk page. Please see there. 03:12, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

File:IsoGerizim.jpeg[edit]

This is by no means a simple geometric shape ineligible for copyright - a schema depicting a reconstructed shape of an ancient building certainly is a creative work. At best, it could fall under fair use, though even that is doubtful. Unless the file is relicensed, I will likely nominate it for deletion. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 20:20, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

Unsourced content[edit]

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Samaritanism. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Jytdog (talk) 15:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit war warning[edit]

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@Jytdog: Hey, I used the talk and provided more sources, but you didn't even bat an eye or even attempt to do so, so you clearly don't give a shit either way. Really don't care at this point, it's your hangup, not mine. יבריב (talk) 16:02, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]

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Edit warring at Samaritanism[edit]

You've been warned as the result of a complaint at the edit warring noticeboard. If you revert this article again without getting a prior consensus on the talk page you may be blocked. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 23:48, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Please don't use edit summaries for snarking at other users[edit]

Thanks. Doug Weller talk 16:52, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

November 2017[edit]

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What? anthropomorphic Yep.[edit]

Deuteronomy 23:12-14. 12 “You shall have a place outside the camp, and you shall go out to it. 13 And you shall have a trowel with your tools, and when you sit down outside, you shall dig a hole with it and turn back and cover up your excrement. 14 Because the Lord your God WALKS IN THE MIDST of your camp, to deliver you and to give up your enemies before you, therefore your camp must be holy, so that he may not see anything indecent among you and turn away from you." [Yahweh does not want to step in the poo poo.] You must have missed this in your reading. I think a lot of people do. You can put "anthromorphic" back now. Let's keep this honest this time. No favorite preferences. Never mind. I replaced and referenced it properly. Miistermagico (talk) 04:53, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

@Miistermagico: No. 'Anthropomorphic' implies we are given human qualities to something non-human. For example, while Kek is a god and thus non-physical or whatever, his form is a frog with human appearance, thus he is anthropomorphic. Yahweh doesn't have a specified appearance, let alone form, how can we say he's anthropomorphic? If he were a talking log, he'd be anthropomorphic. Yahweh isn't anthropomorphic. Having feet to step in poop doesn't make you anthropomorphic. יבריב (talk) 13:58, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
Actually, יבריב, Merriam-Webster lists two definitions of the word "anthropomorphic" ([1]). The first definition is "described or thought of as having a human form or human attributes". The second definition is "ascribing human characteristics to nonhuman things". The definition you are thinking of is the second one. The definition I have been using (which I think is the same one Miistermagico is using) is the first. Also, the early Hebrews did consider Yahweh to have a physical body (as is evidenced by the passages in the earlier parts of the Hebrew Bible that describe him as such). The concept of God as an all-encompassing, incorporeal being was a development of the Second Temple period. --Katolophyromai (talk) 21:09, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
@Katolophyromai: Not a bad point. Do we have a source that actually says that regarding the early Hebrews? B/c that would be a great start. יבריב (talk) 21:19, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
I have already listed several scholarly sources discussing the issue at Talk:Yahweh#Anthropomorphism. --Katolophyromai (talk) 21:25, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Dear User talk:יבריב, http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/anthropomorphism Each of us tend to weave narratives that please ourselves. What ever pleases you tickles me to death. Good luck to you. Miistermagico (talk) 02:52, 1 December 2017 (UTC)

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December 2017[edit]

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Belshazzar[edit]

Sorry to have upset you with my edits to Belshazzar (and a bit puzzled why you invoke the name of the Messiah - I thought you were Jewish). Anyway, please let's discuss on Talk if you find it truly disturbing. PiCo (talk) 20:56, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

@PiCo: Sorry if I came across as a bit too harsh. I was just moody. יבריב (talk) 23:36, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
I thought more shocked than harsh :) PiCo (talk) 00:00, 22 December 2017 (UTC)

Second Temple before Herod picture[edit]

Hello. Unfortunately this image you added was deleted from commons. It would be great to have in that article a picture of the original Second Temple before Herod's renovation. Could you upload the image to commons with better attributions, a different permission or something? Or maybe another depiction? Thanks--Gatnaldir (talk) 04:04, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

Patach katan?[edit]

I'm utterly confused at [2]. What are you talking about? Are you thinking of kamatz katan? Alephb (talk) 00:25, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

@Alephb: Oh my God yes I am. Wow, this is embarrassing. יבריב (talk) 12:46, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Can I take that response to mean that you won't mind if I clean up the "patah = o" edits you've scattered all over the place? Of course, there's no doubt we have other outstanding differences about transliteration, but at least reaching an agreements on patahs would be a good start. Alephb (talk) 17:41, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
Given your continued edits to transliterations, it might be a good idea to look over the Wikipedia policy that covers these sorts of things: MOS:HE. Alephb (talk) 20:07, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Clutter[edit]

Please stop cluttering the first sentences of articles. Please read this and the links from there. Clutter makes it hard for mobile readers to access the actual content. More than half our readers are on mobile devices. Please take this seriously. Jytdog (talk) 21:22, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

@Jytdog: Um...how exactly am I cluterring anything? Thusfar all I've done is add transliterations. יבריב (talk)
They are clutter. People add transliterations, alternative names, etc etc etc and pretty soon the first fifteen words of an article are pure clutter with zero content. This kind of garbage drove the WMF to subvert all of WP and start driving content from Wikidata into every single article in Wikipedia. There is no way in hell you read the link I provided. Please read it Jytdog (talk) 21:28, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
It would probably also be a good idea to give MOS:HE another careful reading. In particular, read what it says about shvas. When you do something weird like call Moses' sister, Mireyam, you're producing a weird kind of transliteration that simply doesn't exist in normal reliable sources, and is utterly foreign to MOS:HE. Alephb (talk) 22:45, 15 January 2018 (UTC)

January 2018[edit]

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Kamatz Troubles, Again[edit]

Things like [3] are why I keep trying to get you to read WP:HEBREW. The guidelines are very clear that kamatz is either an o or an a, depending on the situation. And yes, the kamatz yud in Abigayil does sound a lot like the English vowel in "bite." But there's more to the issue than that. In fact MOS:HE does address an example of how to transliterate another word that has a kamatz, followed by a yud, followed by a hiriq. That word is Yerushalayim. Notice the ayi. Please, read the policy guideline before you keep messing with transliterations. Alephb (talk) 00:12, 20 January 2018 (UTC)