User talk:108.174.174.246

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January 2013[edit]

Hello, I'm Jim1138. I noticed that you recently removed some content from Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada without explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, Jim1138 (talk) 04:13, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada with this edit, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you. Jim1138 (talk) 04:19, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates or other materials from Wikipedia, as you did to Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada with this edit, you may be blocked from editing. SeaphotoTalk 04:27, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada[edit]

It would help if you read and understood the above messages. Leave an wp:edit summary describing your reasoning. If there is not enough room, leave a simple description and add "see talk page". It would be best if you left your description on the talk page first, so someone does not visit there after you delete the content and find a blank talk page. I would suggest reading the wp:welcome page and learn about editing Wikipedia. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 04:28, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

This is your last warning; the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada with this edit, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. TBrandley (what's up) 04:35, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Ownership of Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada page[edit]

Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada is Wikipedia's page, not Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada. As you have a declared conflict of interest, you should not edit the page directly. Please place your edit request on talk:Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada and use an wp:edit request. Thank you Jim1138 (talk) 04:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hello, 108.174.174.246. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada, you may need to consider our guidance on conflicts of interest.

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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. Jim1138 (talk) 04:38, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for persistent disruptive editing, as you did at Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  Tiptoety talk 05:10, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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Request reason:

I have been attempting to remove a section entitled "The Arrival in Canada of Patriarchate Filaret" from the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada wikipedia page. I was told by one person responsing to my deletion of the section mention that "All editors are required to comply with Wikipedia's neutral point of view content policy. People who are very close to a subject often have a distorted view of it, which may cause them to inadvertently edit in ways that make the article either too flattering or too disparaging. People with a close connection to a subject are not absolutely prohibited from editing about that subject, but they need to be especially careful about ensuring their edits are verified by reliable sources and writing with as little bias as possible." While the section that I am trying to remove was writing by people with an extreme bias. They are very close to the situation and have a distorted view of it. As such, the section of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada wikipedia page entitled "The Arrival in Canada of Patriarchate Filaret" presents a bias opinion. I explained this when I removed the section and was blocked from making edits. You said that you follow a neutral point of view and yet this section is completely and absolutly not neutral and competely bias. The section says that "Metropolitan Yurij's letter deeply upset members of St Volodymyr's Cathedral in Toronto, Ukrainian Canadians in general," but only a small miniority of Ukrainian Canadians living in Toronto were upset. So this is a bias to say Ukrainian Canadians living in the rest of Canada are upset. This section should be removed immediately according to your own neutral point of view content policy. 108.174.174.246 (talk) 05:42, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Decline reason:

I have reduced your block to 12 hours, instead of the original 24, as I do not think that you were given adequate explanation of what the problems were before you were blocked. (1) It is clear that there was consensus against your editing. Wikipedia works by consensus, and it is not acceptable for an individual editor to decide he/she can unilaterally override consensus of a number of other editors. If you disagree, then explain your reasons on the article's talk page, with a view to trying to reach agreement, and be prepared to back down if you find that you consensus is still against you after discussion. (2) Not only when there is a consensus of several editors, but also when there is just one other editor who disagrees with you, for you to persistently repeat the same (or substantially the same) edit, known as "edit warring", is unacceptable. Even if you are right in your edit, two or more editors repeatedly warring over which of two versions of an article should stay is not helpful to the encyclopaedia. You may find it helpful to read the policy on edit warring. If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you had been warned about edit warring in advance then I would not be reducing the block length: I am doing so only because I think it was not made clear to you what the problems with your editing were, and if you continue in the same way when the block expires you may well be blocked for much longer. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:39, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.

However, you removed it 10 times! We have a concept called be bold, if it gets reverted, then you must discuss it on the article talkpage until new consensus is obtained. You may NOT under any circumstances whatsoever remove it the way you did, as this is considered edit-warring. You are required to abide by consensus, and if you have trouble reaching consensus then we use dispute resolution processes. (✉→BWilkins←✎) 10:21, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
You have been blocked from editing for a period of three days for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding below this notice the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.  JamesBWatson (talk) 18:50, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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Request reason:

I was adding to the truthfulness of an article. If you look at the page on Patriarchate Filaret that I was citing on the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of Canada wikipedia page, it clearly states that Patriarch Filaret was defrocked in 1992 and in excommunicated in 1997 by the Russian Orthodox Church. I explained this in the edit summary and at no time did anyone inform me of the reasons why my additions were being removed. It is wrong to share the facts of one article on another related article that mentions the same person? Apparently! By the way only the section on "The Arrival in Canada of Patriarchate Filaret was that the problem. All the information about the list of Bishops was correct

Decline reason:

It was explained to you that edit warring is inappropriate even if you are sure you are right. You have two choices; either convince us that you understand and will follow policy, or wait out your block. In the latter case, please understand that continuing to edit war will lead inevitably to a longer block. --Anthony Bradbury"talk" 22:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.

  • I went to some trouble to explain to you about edit warring, precisely in order to help you avoid getting into the situation that you have now got yourself into. In particular, I specifically told you that edit warring is unacceptable "even if you are right in your edit". You are therefore unlikely to be unblocked because you explain that you think that the edits you edit warred on were right. JamesBWatson (talk) 21:35, 17 January 2013 (UTC)