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Douglas Millstone[edit]

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December 2007[edit]

Information.svg Please do not delete content from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Douglas Millstone, without explaining the reason for the removal in the edit summary. Unexplained removal of content does not appear constructive, and your edit has been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox for test edits. Thank you. -- Blake01 17:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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January 2009[edit]

Information.png Welcome to Wikipedia. The recent edit you made to Searle (surname) has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, please ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thank you. PXK T /C 19:53, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

External links and unit testing[edit]

It's worth reading WP:EL and the external links policy. It's not how most editors think - Wikipedia works on the basis that a perfect article need have no external links. If Kent Beck is important to an article on unit testing, then we should link to him. However we should prefer to link to an on-wiki article about him, or maybe even add the relevant content to the unit testing article itself, under "history" or "development". ELs are really an admission that we've failed, and there's something missing from what we ought to be providing from this site itself.

You're pulling that out of nowhere, and WP:EL certainly doesn't say so. External links are often the best part of an article, putting the WP article in context, referring to scientific literature, books that cover a wider range of aspects, and so forth.

Obviously there are exceptions, links to "famous" paper like the Agile Manifesto, or to home pages of the subject of an article themselves, but our editing policy ought to be to avoid ELs, unless we can't do it otherwise; not to hunt down the best ELs we can, round them up and list the lot. Andy Dingley (talk) 09:33, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, at least you've summarized my position already for me, because that's precisely what I think we should do.
In scientific writing, you mention the related work in its own section, and that's fair. In WP, you have external sources at the bottom of the page, instead. Both is fair. But you can't cover everything in-line in the introduction. First, even if you manage, it won't be as visible, and more importantly: you won't manage. Many references will look and feel forced to the reader. So, by all means, round up the best external links and categorize them at the bottom of the article, a very visible place, because it's so easy to scroll there. (talk) 10:00, 18 April 2011 (UTC)