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Deedo deletion[edit]


My page has been deleted by you, and I would like to retrieve the deleted material for future improvement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bengirfr (talkcontribs) 13:22, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

@Bengirfr: I would ask you if you are associated with the service you were writing about, as I notice it was the only thing you edited about. 331dot (talk) 13:25, 9 May 2018 (UTC)


At a UAA report on User talk :SEAL team rep, you noted that the user name was "bring discussed". The report has since been archived. There is no discussion and this user has made zero talk page posts thus far. I'm just curious what you plan to do next? Thanks (also, while posting here, I noted that your talk page history has disappeared... what's up with that? Just curious...) - theWOLFchild 05:05, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

I just archived this page. I'll look at that user again. 331dot (talk) 07:53, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Jobs in islamabad[edit]

You may wish to revoke talk page access.--Cahk (talk) 07:15, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

User talk:Ikrewrwe[edit]

You may or may not want to revoke talk page access. All they seem to be doing is wikilawyering, more or less. --Ebyabe talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 18:20, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Unsalt please[edit]

I wrote to Sandstein but he hasn't edited today. Can you unsalt Kelly Sadler? I posted a draft on User talk:Sandstein to show that it is much better than the Kelly Sadler article that he speedily deleted. That draft could become much better if everyone in Wikipedia could improve on it. For now, the draft is crap but better crap than what was deleted. Please just do it because I don't want to go through red tape and post appeals and the sort. If you refuse, I give up. Cowdung Soup (talk) 03:18, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[edit]

Thanks for revoking TPA. Do you think it would be OK to remove the section with my name in the header or at least changing the header? I guess they didn't like me being the one to request the block at ANI. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  13:50, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Sorry about that, probably should have done it in the first place. It's removed now. 331dot (talk) 13:52, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
No worries, and thanks again ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  14:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

FYI, name has been changed[edit]

FYI, my username was approved and changed. Cowding Soup (talk) 02:53, 16 May 2018 (UTC) (formerly known as Cowdung Soup)

mail-- it gets to you[edit]

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Thanks - COI Noticeboard[edit]

Hello 331dot - thank you for you help on the COI Noticeboard project page - I'll post my COI as you've suggested from now on. Thanks - MrAttempt (talk) 08:38, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.11 25 May 2018[edit]

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Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:34, 24 May 2018 (UTC)


If you care to do it again, I'm prepared to protect it. Deb (talk) 15:04, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer but I'm thinking that since I started a discussion it should probably play out for a tad first. 331dot (talk) 15:35, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

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Can someone explain to me what is going on?[edit]


Yesterday I could not log on (as user Createangelos), and had never set an email address for a password reminder. As my account was lost I began following the instructions to change the username and link the accounts together. Partway through, I ran into trouble as the account name I chose which I use elsewhere, was already taken, so I tried spectrograph and Spectrograph which are taken. This is what I call myself on some other sites like academia. These being taken I changed it to SpectrographUK since I am in the UK. I made a website in the past with the same name. This was blocked as misleading/promotional (by a user or a bot?), and I followed the instructions to begin an appeal.

In the meantime, I finally remembered what I'd changed my password to, so this is not important, but just for the record, I am totally confused why my new username was blocked, and why my attempt to appeal was blocked.

Initially, I thought that it was related to this strange dispute User_talk:Createangelos#GMO_and_pesticide_topics which I also do not understand.

I do not want to make trouble and am not even sure if there is any point of principle I am meant to be defending. I just need it explained to me what is going on with that username. It is not in fact promotional (even if someone thought that it relates to my website, that website is shared client side javascript (it is, in fact, a spectrograph, and related to things like concepts of pollution), anyone can download it and keep it forever, so there could be no motive to promote it....except if there were a subconscious wish to dox myself...but that is too indirect I think and not what is going on).

What is the issue here? Did/should I make an appeal if my username choice has no conceivable way of being promotional or misleading? Why was my attempt to make an appeal just deleted?

Mainly I seem to be running into a lot of trouble and am a bit confused, maybe I need a rest or something. Createangelos (talk) 09:26, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Createangelos I simply moved your appeal to the proper place(your former user talk page, not your user page). 331dot (talk) 09:28, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
Oops! You can see how confused I am. Sorry& thanks.Createangelos (talk) 09:33, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

I'm getting notifications that you wrote me more messages on the SpectrographUK talk page, however the user who blocked it has helpfully put a redirect so if I try to see the messages, I go back to my original Createangelos talk page. Can you pls cc your message either here or to User_talk:Createangelos? My main issue now is that if there is an appeal going on I should probably delete it. I did see the first few words of your comment in an email and I gather that it just isn't allowed to have usernames that reflect website names. That does makes sense as a blanket policy so I want to delete my appeal. But I cannot delete it because of the redirect! Can someone else delete my appeal and we can forget the whole issue now? Thanks.Createangelos (talk) 10:29, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

The appeal has been resolved, and as you are already aware, the page has been turned into a redirect. The appeal was declined by another administrator simply because you still have access to the username you are using now. My only comment was that usernames cannot be that of a website regardless of the purpose of the website, and that if you really want "Spectrograph" in your username in a manner that is not that of a website, you are free to request a username change through one of the methods at WP:CHU. 331dot (talk) 10:33, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Block evasion by user you blocked, Steam Heatsystem[edit]

Hi 331dot, you recently blocked the user Steam Heatsystem for disruptive editing. They appear to be evading their block using, with much the same behaviour as Steam Heatsystem: reverting users with the summary of "WP:BLANK" when it doesn't apply (which Steam did), and accusing other editors (in this case, the editor VillageIdiot23) of racism, which they did to me and another editor when we removed their addition of a non-notable person's cover version to This Is America (song). Also, if that weren't enough, they undid a user who undid Steam Heatsystem here. Ss112 14:42, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion[edit]

Can you see User talk:Bellkumari09 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clockist (talkcontribs) 09:23, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

I've addressed that matter. 331dot (talk) 09:25, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

That troubling userpage I flagged[edit]

Howdy! Just to clarify why I flagged the Locortez userpage for attack-page deletion: it looked like the work of a homophobic schoolboy creating a page to make one of his classmates look like One Of Teh Gays, with the references to the person's IRL name, to "roids" (maybe it's just my idiosyncratic experience, but actual illicit drug users appear virtually never to use anything close to the actual name of the illicit drug in non-academic written prose) and to walking on the beach with "passionate men." I agree it's a borderline case, but it set off my bully detector. Thanks for looking at it, in any event; I just wanted to let you know I wasn't pulling my conclusion out of thin air! Have a good weekend! - Julietdeltalima (talk) 16:59, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Julietdeltalima: Thank you very much for your explanation. I did not think anything bad at all and figured there was at least a chance someone had a good reason for doing it. I try to take assume good faith seriously and just because I didn't see something doesn't mean someone else didn't. Thanks again 331dot (talk) 19:33, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Hi, I'm Onel5969. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Ready or Not (video game), and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Onel5969 TT me 18:46, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

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Username soft blocks[edit]

I just noticed two of your reviews of appeals of blocks I placed. I don’t want to nitpick, but I feel like there is a slight disconnect here. In both cases these were soft blocks, which explicitly allow the user to just change their name and try again. Now, in both of these cases it is clear that the user making the appeal did not take the time to uderstand why they were blocked and how to properly appeal, but it looks like you are asking them to prove that they both understand our policies and have chosen a new username that is acceptable. User:Cars24India did in fact come up with a compliant username but you have declined anyway. This essentially converts it to a hard block without actually saying so or changing the settings.

The point of the soft block is to make it clear that they absolutely can’t use an ORGNAME, to advise them of policies on promotional editing, and at the same time to say “now that you’ve been told this, go ahead and try again.” The soft block is the tool of first resort for ORGNAME violations for exactly this reason. Both of these users could still just start a new account right now (if they bothered to carefully read the block notices I left) without having to ask anyone’s permission or prove they understand policy better now. If they don’t, they’ll be blocked again as spammers and a hard block would be the corect response.

If, on the other hand, you feel strngly that they should be hardblocked, you should change the block settings to reflect this and inform the blocked user that they are no longer free to just start a new account and must go through the appeal process. Beeblebrox (talk) 18:28, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I greatly appreciate your comments. I will work to keep them in mind. 331dot (talk) 01:13, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Username changed as you noticed[edit]

Hello @331dot,

I have started using wikipedia before few days and I have very little knowledge. I am trying my best to follow all the guidelines of wikipedia and becoming an active volunteer here. I need your help in my first article Spandana Palli. Unknowingly I had made a mistake in uploading photo in that article for which issue has been raised. I don't know how to resolve it. I request you to kindly help me in my first article as I have made alot of effort in that article. 

Bdatech (talk) 15:51, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Acceptable account?[edit]

Account Leecholon95 was created. Make sure it is okay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1001:B006:7DE0:1478:8F3D:79D:B4E1 (talk) 19:51, 26 June 2018 (UTC)


Please block this vandal account. See [1]. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 10:29, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Should I revert all the edits? They seemed to be excess removal of wikilinks. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 10:33, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
If they seem to be invalid, yes, you could remove them. 331dot (talk) 10:34, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
I would also suggest that you stop engaging with the user, they seem to be deliberately attempting to rile you up. 331dot (talk) 10:35, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Oh sorry I should not have assaulted him. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 10:37, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) I assume this is Nsmutte, with their fascination for our—admittedly fascinating :) —Bonadea. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 10:56, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
@Serial Number 54129: No, it's WhenDatHotlineBling. Both gentleentitles have their own distinct style. I feel like I'm in that episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer where a spell goes awry and one of the characters turn into a demon magnet. Only with trolls rather than demons. (I'm really a rather nice person - I'm not sure I entirely deserve it!) --bonadea contributions talk 11:04, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Ha! A lesson in identifying parasites is never wasted :) thanks! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 11:14, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – July 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2018).


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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:22, 3 July 2018 (UTC)


Hi! We don't know each other but i need an advice/help from a neutral POV. I edited the page Bimbo adding this: [2]. Substantially, I simply explained the meaning of the italian word from which the US slang comes in order to contexualise it (it means "child") and i explained how it has became an insult in american english. Most of the infos were already in the article, but i thought some of them, better explained, should be in the lead. User:Flyer22 Reborn started an edit war ([3]), deleting without explanation the passage ([4]), deleting it a second time even when i pointed out that what i inserted was mostly already sourced/present in the article ([5]) and even deleting it against the rules a third time ([6]). What he argued (as you may read in the links) is fairly inconsistent. He invited me (as you can see in the links) to "talk" about it. Yet he deleted twice my messages to his talk page ([7] and [8]) and refused to answer to me, shutting down any possibility of collaborating in finding a common version of the passage. Now, to me this is a very distruptive behaviour: firstly he deleted a correct passage committing what i see as a vandalism, then when he was reverted he started inconsinstently referring to WP:Undue (which is ironic considering these infos are mostly already in the article, just not in the lead of it), then he asked to talk before any new edit and yet he refused to answer and deleted my messages to him, in a rude way, unecessarly calling my messages to him a "mess". Trusting your judgement as a sysop, i'll thank you if you could give a neutral POV on the situation for the better of the article, as any effort to find a common ground has been met with an unreasonable refuse to talk at all. Thank you. (talk) 16:18, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

I will comment on the article talk page. 331dot (talk) 21:52, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

Removal of my article[edit]

Hello. I totally understand that you are doing your job. I have a few questions about the removal of my page (speedy deletion that I did not have time to respond to...) -My page was reviewed, and someone later marked it as unreviewed. Why was it unreviewed? -The camp has been operational for over 100 years, and it has hosted thousands of campers and is well known in the Greenville area. -There are tons of other "Y" camps on Wikipedia. Including this one: YMCA Camp Orkila which seems just about as "notable" as the page I tried to create. If a "Y" camp is not notable enough to have a wikipedia page, then should't the 10+ other pages be removed as well?

I really appreciate you doing your job to help keep this website clean and professional. -Eamesheard (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 19:05, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

  • @Eamesheard: Hello. I would first state that just because other Y camps have articles does not automatically mean that all Y camps merit articles; other things exist. Each article is judged on its own merits. That said, I haven't evaluated those other articles on Y camps to know if they merit articles themselves. It's possible they don't. An article subject merits a Wikipedia article if it receives significant coverage in independent reliable sources that indcates how it meets the relevant notability guidelines, in this case WP:ORG.
In the case of the page you created, when I deleted it, the page did little more than state that the camp exists and what services are offered there. No independent sources were offered. I see that the camp was founded in 1912, so such sources may exist(they don't have to be online). The key is notability- and being old doesn't necessarily grant notability, especially without significant coverage in independent sources.
There was also some copyright issues before they were removed(you can't just reuse content here, see WP:COPYVIO). Please ask if you have any other questions. You might try, instead of directly creating a Wikipedia article, to create and submit a draft for review at Articles for Creation. This way you can get feedback on it before the draft is formally placed in the encyclopedia, instead of afterwards when it will be treated more critically. 331dot (talk) 21:51, 4 July 2018 (UTC)

ANEW discussion[edit]

Can I close the discussion that was filed against the IP editor? It looks like it has been resolved. RandNetter96 (Talk) (Contributions) 17:11, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

I think it best if you let someone totally uninvolved close it. 331dot (talk) 17:14, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
I would go further than 331dot and strongly suggest you should not do any administrative work whatsoever and focus solely on content. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:17, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
OK. Also, do you have any tips of where else to edit? RandNetter96 (Talk) (Contributions) 17:15, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
You could start by looking at Nintendo Entertainment System and adding sources to the text currently tagged [citation needed], as a starting point. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:17, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
I wholeheartedly endorse Ritchie's comments. The Community Portal also has suggestions of areas that need assistance. 331dot (talk) 17:19, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
I have added citations in that article. RandNetter96 (Talk) (Contributions) 17:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

User talk:[edit]

Is it possible for you to revoke TP access also. Grossly offensive disruption since the block. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 00:09, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for bringing that to my attention. 331dot (talk) 00:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with it! Is revdel required in view of the offensive 'comments' (baby rape etc.)? Eagleash (talk) 04:51, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
That's a good point. Still getting used to this role and what I can do..... Thanks 331dot (talk) 09:37, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Must take a bit of 'getting used to!' Also there's some at Talk:Ian Watkins (Lostprophets) and possibly User talk:DeniedClub too. Sorry. 'More work'. Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 15:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Can you unprotect all the pages protected.[edit]

Dude you have so manypages unnessicarily protected! Undo it! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:33, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Most if not all pages that are protected are so for a reason. If there are certain pages that you feel should not be protected any longer, WP:RPP is the proper forum to discuss it. 331dot (talk) 22:51, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Not to be that guy, but actually the directions at RFPP for requesting unprotection specify that you should talk to the protecting admin first. Not that it matters with a hopelessly vague request like this one Beeblebrox (talk) 01:30, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. I appreciate all the help I get. :) 331dot (talk) 01:35, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Creating a Biography for an Artist[edit]

Hi there @331dot I work for a company that helps artist develop their own wiki page. I am having a difficult time publishing the biography because it keeps getting deleted due to unreliable source of references and cites. What can I do about this. I appreciate all your help, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnnpaultubig (talkcontribs) 19:27, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@Johnnpaultubig: Hello. The first thing you need to do as soon as possible is review WP:COI and WP:PAID, and make the appropriate declarations on your user page. You are required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use to declare any paid editing status that you have. If you fail to do this, you may be blocked from editing until you comply.
You also seem to have a common misunderstanding as to what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is not social media for users to have "their own wiki page". Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, which has articles about subjects shown to be notable with independent reliable sources. Using Wikipedia for promotional purposes is not permitted, nor is merely telling the world about someone. I understand that Wikipedia articles rank highly in search results, but helping someone's career is not a concern of Wikipedia. In this case, the individual you are writing about will need to have been written about in sources having nothing to do with her that have chosen to write about her. Her website or interview transcripts are not acceptable for establishing notability. IMDB is also not acceptable, as it is user-editable(like Wikipedia).
If there are not sufficient independent sources about this person, there cannot be a Wikipedia article about her at this time. You may wish to invest your energy in using actual social media or another alternative outlet to do what you are trying to do here. 331dot (talk) 19:38, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated[edit]

Hi, I'm Nick Moyes. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Monika Jensen, and have un-reviewed it again. As you'll see from my reply at the Teahouse just a moment ago, in answering the OP I discovered the article was a blatant cut-paste job from IMDB which Monika Jensen Productions had written, and is clearly labelled as copyrighted content. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:49, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Sbshuvo (talk) 10:44, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[edit]

Thanks a lot for your suggestion to edit my page NOW Entertainment on draft.

@Sbshuvo: You will still need to answer the question as to if you are associated with the organization you are writing about. An undisclosed paid editing relationship could lead to your being blocked from editing. If you are an employee or other paid representative of the organization, you are required by Wikipedia's Terms of Use to disclose it. If you are not paid but still associated with the organization, it is a conflict of interest that also needs to be disclosed. 331dot (talk) 10:58, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
@331dot: I am none of them. Thanks Sbshuvo

Edit warring at Pine tar[edit]

There is edit warring with a few users. —Heating172, 17:55, 27 July 2018

NPR Newsletter No.12 30 July 2018[edit]

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months. (Purge)

Hello 331dot, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

June backlog drive

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Since the drive closed, the backlog has begun to rise sharply again and is back up to nearly 1,400 already. Please help reduce this total and keep it from raising further by reviewing some articles each day.

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Shubhankar Tiwari[edit]

Sorry but u send me an alert that i should stop my disruptive editing. Why u think my editing is disruptive?Shubhankar Tiwari (talk) 18:08, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

@Shubhankar Tiwari: You added spam to the Teahouse, which is disruptive because 1) the Teahouse is for new users to ask questions and 2) spam and advertising is not permitted anywhere on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 20:45, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – August 2018[edit]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2018).


Administrator changes

added Sro23
readded KaisaLYmblanter

Guideline and policy news

  • After a discussion at Meta, a new user group called "interface administrators" (formerly "technical administrator") has been created. Come the end of August, interface admins will be the only users able to edit site-wide JavaScript and CSS pages like MediaWiki:Common.js and MediaWiki:Common.css, or edit other user's personal JavaScript and CSS. The intention is to improve security and privacy by reducing the number of accounts which could be used to compromise the site or another user's account through malicious code. The new user group can be assigned and revoked by bureaucrats. Discussion is ongoing to establish details for implementing the group on the English Wikipedia.
  • Following a request for comment, the WP:SISTER style guideline now states that in the mainspace, interwiki links to Wikinews should only be made as per the external links guideline. This generally means that within the body of an article, you should not link to Wikinews about a particular event that is only a part of the larger topic. Wikinews links in "external links" sections can be used where helpful, but not automatically if an equivalent article from a reliable news outlet could be linked in the same manner.

Technical news

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:31, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Kevin Harts Early Life[edit]

You recently took down some information that I added about he's early life, but I have reviewed it and double checked my facts. At the end of last month after doing an interview with him, I have done extra research and Wikipedia did not seem to have some of that information. I understand that you doing your job and really appreciate it but I have checked it over to make sure that nothing is false and it was true information that I have put in. John Appleberg (talk) 05:04, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

@John Appleberg: I have no reason to doubt that what you say is true, that is not the issue. Please see WP:TRUTH. Wikipedia is not interested in truth per se, but in what can be verified in an independent reliable source. A personal interview you had with Kevin Hart does not meet that criteria. Anyone on the internet can claim to have interviewed any person; that is difficult to verify. This is why Wikipedia asks for a published source for all information, especially that in an article about a living person. Your interview would need to be published somewhere in order to meet the criteria for inclusion. If your interview is published somewhere, that would be an improvement, but you still should not add its information to the article without discussion on the article talk page due to the large conflict of interest you have. 331dot (talk) 08:23, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
I see that someone else has now reverted your addition. I again ask you to proceed as I have described both here and on your user talk page. Thank you. 331dot (talk) 08:25, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


Remember to substitute unsigned templates. Regards ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 08:47, 6 August 2018 (UTC)

Kevin Harts Early Life[edit]

Thank you for your help and support, I'll take it in consideration next time. Enjoy your day. John Appleberg (talk) 14:17, 6 August 2018 (UTC)


This is bity. I don't like COI editing, but they were asking for a simple logo change, something that many COI editors ask us to do at the Teahouse and Help desk. They didn't need the whole book thrown at them. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:33, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate your views but I think it important to address those important policies right away so they don't have problems in the future. It was not my intention to throw the book at anyone and I thought that I was polite. 331dot (talk) 20:55, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your help 331dot, I appreciate it. I am unblocked now and looking forward to contributing.A.kenney (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 13:11, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Re: User talk:Shortdutchman240[edit]

Hey, thanks for the ping! In the future, don't hesitate to unblock if you feel the given unblock reason is sufficient :) -- Luk talk 12:15, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I appreciate it. Still getting used to this role and figuring out how bold to be in those situations; making sure I didn't miss something. 331dot (talk) 12:17, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

ITN comment[edit]

Did you remove this comment of mine by accident, or because you thought it wasn't constructive. I'll leave it out for the minute because it is a bit inflammatory and unlikely to lead to constructive debate. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:27, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I apologize. I didn't intend to remove your comment.(or even realize I did). I think an edit conflict got in the way. 331dot (talk) 09:29, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
No worries. I'll leave it out for the minute and work on something else, I think. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:30, 17 August 2018 (UTC)