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Thank you for presenting opera singers of past and present not only as performers but also as human beings, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
Thank you Gerda for the kind words. :-)4meter4 (talk) 23:35, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
I wanted to give Precious to the one who created opera singers in 2008 and found you again, awesome Wikipedian (24 September 2010 and 5 March 2012)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:36, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
A year ago, you were the 46th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, now I miss you and the photographer (again), and put "Letting go of the past" on top of my talk, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
Two years ago, I am happy to see your name on my watchlist again, enjoy singing! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:43, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Ruth Welting[edit]

Thanks for adding this article. Very nice, and needed for a long time. --Robert.Allen (talk) 09:14, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

Bizet's Carmen[edit]

If you feel like chipping in at the peer review, or on the talkpage, any comments from you will be most welcome. Brianboulton (talk) 20:08, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Teatro Sociale[edit]

Thanks for your "heads up". I'll have to cross-check with Lynn when I return from a trip to California later this week. However, her book is about the only source out there. Viva-Verdi (talk) 16:31, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Credo Reference Update & Survey (your opinion requested)[edit]

Credo Reference, who generously donated 400 free Credo 250 research accounts to Wikipedia editors over the past two years, has offered to expand the program to include 100 additional reference resources. Credo wants Wikipedia editors to select which resources they want most. So, we put together a quick survey to do that:

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Also, if you have an account but no longer want to use it, please leave me a note so another editor can take your spot.

If you have any other questions or comments, drop by my talk page or email me at Cheers! Ocaasi t | c 17:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

A bowl of strawberries for you![edit]

Erdbeerteller01.jpg Thank you for putting that notice about Sanjay Pugalia on Khazar2's talk page. The best route to saving it was through an overhaul and you helped spark that campaign! Please take a look at it now, Best wishes Crtew (talk) 14:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

I am interested in journalists and most of my work here is about journalists who have been killed for their reporting. Is there a good way to follow AfD nominations for a specific category? I find wading through AfD confusing and have never mastered this skill. You look like you have a lot more experience than I do tracking those nominations. Any pointers would be very much appreciated! Crtew (talk) 15:17, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas[edit]

Happy Holidays, 4meter4!

It's nice to see you visiting the Opera Project even though you're semi-retired. Have a wonderful music-filled Christmas and a very happy new year.

Voceditenore (talk) 10:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Rain On The Just for deletion[edit]

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Composers for FA[edit]

I noticed your suggestions for composer and opera FAs. Britten is up for PR, did you know? Did you see my collection of Wagner DYK, just for fun? Verdi deserves improvement, for example Quattro pezzi sacri, still with red links of the parts, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:30, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Michael Tippett[edit]

Hallo, I just wrote something in the German - - about Michael Tippett,- because text was wrong...someone wrote before, that he had never experiences in music as child. Ups! And the page comes probably from SCHOTT EDITION. When I finished my small correcture, I found two books and I´m new in Wiki, so I did not know how I fit it. (-) So I looked on your english page of M. Tippett, WHOW, surprise. WONDERFUL! Nothing is better- Nothing. And such article need one week very hard work. 1. Problem is, that all would be easier, if Wiki could mange, that all can read ONE common article. 2. So it would be unseful, if the german article would have a link to yours. BEdause: If I write in GOOGLE M.Tippett, then GOOGLE gives only the GERMAN results,- nothing to en. I got it, because I had suddenly the idea to use the "Tippett.en." 2. Problem is in your article I could not find this here, with two ID (?): Music of the Angels: Essays and Sketchbooks

Tippett, Michael Verlag: Eulenburg Books, 1980 ISBN 10: 0903873605 / ISBN 13: 9780903873604 many greetings--Monna Ry (talk) 23:27, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter[edit]

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From London[edit]

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Merry Christmas, 4meter4, and a very happy new year! Voceditenore

More from London :). Congratulations on your new house and the concert! I've provisionally sorted out the Richard Cowan kerfuffle and left a note on the article talk page and on my own. It looks like either he, or someone associated with him, had a go at "expanding" the article in 2012 and made a suitable hash of it. All the best, Voceditenore (talk) 07:54, 5 January 2014 (UTC)


I don't have any objection to your removing the list of singers from falsetto (and I didn't add any of them myself), since the list is pretty useless information, but they aren't really OR in the sense that each of the linked pages describes the singer in question as using their falsetto voice; I have been monitoring additions to that list and culling ones whose pages don't mention the term. —Wahoofive (talk) 19:29, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

P.S. there's some wiki syntax problem with the barnstar below; I originally put this note at the bottom but it got included in the box. —Wahoofive (talk) 19:31, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your efforts![edit]

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Your name came up on a Wikipediocracy thread about solid content writers who don't get the credit they deserve and I just wanted to drop by and do a little of that. Thanks for your work on behalf of The Project! Carrite (talk) 15:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

Template:Voice type[edit]

I figured since they both had fairly fleshed out articles they should be part of the template, in my experience there are some very specific bass-baritone roles, and plenty of singers who consider themselves a bass-baritone. The basso profoundo is a totally different type of singing altogether too. Aaron Bruce (talk) 15:34, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

I agree with the fact that many singers identify themselves with a particular fach and its associated roles. However, this template is meant to direct readers to the main voice types, and not sub-types. If you look at the bass (voice type) and baritone articles, there are a plethora of sub types (basso profundo and bass-baritone only being two of such sub-types). Let's not overburden this template by muddying the waters, otherwise we will soon have a massive and confusing template to the general reader with every sub-type imaginable. For example, soprano would expand to dramatic soprano, lyric coloratura soprano, dramatic coloratura soprano, spinto soprano, full lyric soprano, light lyric soprano, soubrette, etc. Further, some of these sub-types are not used universally, but the main voice types are. Ultimately, I think it better serves the reader to be directed to these broader pages. 4meter4 (talk) 23:58, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Bluebeard's Castle[edit]

This might be of interest to you: It's an article about an uncited claim that appears to have been inserted into the article by one of your accounts, if I am reading the edit history correctly. Gamaliel (talk) 16:13, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

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? Dinosaur Fan (talk) 07:39, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

?4meter4 (talk) 04:12, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

Hochschule für Musik Saar[edit]

Thank you! Very useful. The name dates from 2002, we can't claim that someone born 1933 studied at the Hochschule für Musik Saar, - I typically use Musikhochschule Saarbrücken in such cases, which was possibly never an official name, but practical ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:22, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Philip Brunelle[edit]

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Precious again[edit]

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portraits of opera singers as people
Thank you for quality articles, presenting opera singers of past and present not only as performers but also as human beings, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (24 September 2010)!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Three years ago, you were the 48th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:29, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Four years ago, you were recipient no. 48 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:20, 5 March 2016 (UTC)


I note your "semi-retired" banner, but I wonder if I can interest you in the FAC for Verdi's Falstaff? I had been working on the article on and off in collaboration with Viva-Verdi (John Webber), who, as you know, died in March. This FAC is by way of being my personal tribute to him, and any suggestions for polishing it further would be particularly gladly received. – Tim riley talk 12:03, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Re: Far from Heaven (musical)[edit]

Thank you for creating this article. I added it to Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride 2015/Results, which records LGBT-related articles created during the month of June as part of the annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign. If you happen to create or improve other LGBT-related articles this month, feel free to update this Results page accordingly. Thanks again! ---Another Believer (Talk) 17:06, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Re: Cleopatra and Caesar (painting)[edit]

Hi. Thanks for your DYK review of Cleopatra and Caesar (painting). Can you please amend your review to note that 1) it was moved from User:Viriditas/Cleopatra and Caesar (painting) to mainspace on June 2, 2015, and expanded 5x until 8 June with 5416 characters (883 words) "readable prose size"?[1][2] You will also need to note in your review whether the article is 2) neutral, 3) cites sources with inline citations, 4) is free of close paraphrasing, copyright violations, and plagiarism, and note whether the hook is in the 5) appropriate format (163 words), is 6) interesting, accurate, neutral, and cited inline, and note whether the 7) QPQ checks out (Shetland sheep), and if the 8) image is free to use. Please check to see if these things are true and if so, note them in the review. Your current review does not evaluate for this DYK criteria, and I'm afraid your review will prevent my hook from ever reaching the queue. In order to meet the guidelines, the hook and article must be reviewed for these things. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 15 June 2015 (UTC)

Great to see you back[edit]

Hi 4meter4. Great to see you back for while! And many new articles too! Hope life is treating you well. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:02, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Voceditenore. It's been great working with you again. Life is going well. I am currently working on a Masters of Music degree at the University of Oklahoma in the summers when I'm not teaching and performing. How have you been?4meter4 (talk) 16:57, 4 July 2015 (UTC)


Thank you for a factual comment on the opera Joseph. I really should have looked up the contributor. There is a lot of history behind the exchange, which you possibly missed, but you didn't miss much, example pictured. If the arbitrators had followed your thinking (and mine: why duplicate the bottom navbox by a side navbox?) things would have turned out differently. I was late to infoboxes and will probably never understand why they are treated so differently from other features helping a topic, such as images, maps, tables etc. Why is an image "added", while an infobox is "imposed"? - Anyway, The Rite of Spring was mentioned in the 2013 example, a FA with a lot of debate then, which has an infobox now, as FA Carmen, as all operas by Verdi and almost all by Wagner, - changing slowly but changing, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

I am happy to report that your wishes for Theater Augsburg and Musikhochschule Mannheim have been started, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:52, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Josephine Lucchese[edit]

Thank you for adding more info to Josephine Lucchese. Great to see someone else is interested in her. Someone could potentially move more pictures to Wikimedia Commons with a category and possibly a few recordings (I am not sure).Zigzig20s (talk) 00:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

That's a great idea and thanks for creating the article. Pics and recordings are not my expertise though. Happy to help with content though.4meter4 (talk) 00:33, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Btw could you please in-line the Cuba info you added? Usually I try to in-line every sentence, because it makes it far less confusing once other editors want to expand the page but keep the correct references in place.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:17, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Done. I'm finished with my expansion. Best.4meter4 (talk) 01:46, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. You found a lot! I will create her father's page over the weekend. Incidentally, if you are interested in opera, it would be great to work on opera companies and vocalists from the Southern US.Zigzig20s (talk) 01:52, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
I have been an active member of WP:WikiProject Opera for many years. I write articles on opera singers regularly. I discovered your article because I check User:AlexNewArtBot/OperaSearchResult regularly. I knew about Lucchese because of her work in Philadelphia. The history of opera in Philadelphia and New York City is an area of interest for me. I contribute regularly to articles on singers who have been active in those cities. I am happy to help you with any future projects, but have a huge bucket list of articles on my create list. Best.4meter4 (talk) 01:55, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Wonderful. I wonder if we could find anything about the Antebellum South. Or more on Cuba prior to the revolution. Basically I am interested in details and "lost societies". There is probably a lot to uncover from opera.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:04, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
There is a lot of history at the New Orleans Opera and there is an article titled Opera in Atlanta. New Orleans has a rich and well documented opera history. Other than that, I am not aware of any major opera companies/ opera houses in the south during that era (and I have read enough on singers from the era to know that there wasn't another major company in the South). There was a penchant for opera houses to be built in cities in the south. But these "opera houses" hosted a wide variety of entertainments such as vaudeville acts. When operas were performed in the South (except for New Orleans), they were almost exclusively performed by touring companies (often European in origin) who popped in for a US tour (during the off-season when the European opera houses were not running productions) and then returned home. Eventually Americans formed there own touring opera companies at the end of 19th century/early 20th century like the San Carlo Opera Company (the most successful and longest lasting US touring company), but these companies were based out of cities with a long history of opera like New York, Boston, Chicago, and San Francisco. It wasn't until the mid 20th century that a movement towards home grown opera in the South took root. This article on the history of opera in Texas is fairly representative of opera in the south during this era. Best.4meter4 (talk) 02:47, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Btw, Josephine could be a good candidate for DYK, if you are interested. I don't know how to assess other articles to have access to it though.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:06, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
There is a Good Faith assumption at DYK for cited references that are offline or behind a pay wall. That said, in my experience it's best to write a hook that is supported by a source accessible to anyone online. I have no interest in nominating it myself, but I am ok with you doing so. Best.4meter4 (talk) 02:16, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
DYK is a nightmare to make it go through. Btw, are you interested in creating articles about those red links you added please? I can't sleep and so I've created her father's page.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:21, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Yes I am interested.4meter4 (talk) 05:27, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Bach singers[edit]

Thanks for your attention for singers created to fill the red links here. I met Mr. Brutscher once who was scheduled to be the Evangelist for our St. Matthew but realized in rehearsal that his voice wasn't up to it because of a cold. I remember Max van Egmond telephoning tenors he knew for replacement (open rehearsal same day!) on an open telephone booth on the street ;) - He found Max Ciolek but not for the open rehearsal, - the conductor was the Evangelist, on top of conducting the work for the first time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

You're welcome.What a good story. Glad something worked out in the end. Can't imagine conducting and singing the Evangelist at the same time.4meter4 (talk) 22:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
It was tough, even when no conducting is needed while singing the recitative, - the continuo should follow the singer anyway. Thre conductor sometimes walks away when soloists sing their arias, feeling that conducting only disturbs ;) - For the last Bach concert (Mass in B minor, pictured), we had a terrific orchestra, - the keyboard player switched from harpsichord to organ, playing the concert from a facsimile of the autograph! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:09, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Summer note[edit]

Hi 4meter4, just a note to say I'm off to Italy for a month. I'll probably check in at the OP once in a while, though. If we don't "talk" before I get back, have a great summer and tanti auguri for your MA and your performances. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 17:20, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you Voceditenore! Enjoy your much deserved vacation. I know you will be basking in the delights of Tuscany. Are you going to the Festival Puccini while you are there? Please eat some decadent meals for me.4meter4 (talk) 21:29, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

William Johns[edit]

Hi 4meter4. I could knock up a viable stub on him tomorrow, unless you're planning to do it. Just let know. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:20, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

That would be great! Thank you.4meter4 (talk) 18:25, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
Okey-dokey. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:42, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you, 4meter4, for your cogent input. Eavesdrop away: I'm still figuring out Wikipedia. Gratefully yours, Ijmusic (talk) 12:50, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

Music Theory Project[edit]

Is the project still active? If not, or you simply are unable to run it I would not mind taking over responsibilities. If you are still active then great, I am glad to be a part of the team! I have seen zero activity since I have joined the project so this is the only reason I ask this question. --Xavier (talk) 10:54, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

I stepped away from the project a long time ago. I haven't been running things for years. By all means assume a leadership role. Best.4meter4 (talk) 14:07, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
@4meter4: Hooray!! I am so glad to hear it! I am really amped about getting this project up and running again. Thank you! On that note, do you still wish to be an active member? Or shall I move you to the inactive list? I wish to keep that list always as a reminder.
--Xavier (talk) 14:11, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
I have already re-enlisted the project into the parent project WP:WPMU. It was in danger of being removed!
--Xavier (talk) 14:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Keep me as active. I am more involved with WikiProject Opera and WikiProject Composer projects in terms of content writing, but I may be able to assist every now and then with the theory project. Best.4meter4 (talk) 16:04, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Will do had already planned on it. ) --Xavier (talk) 11:48, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
BTW you are not in the list of members. Not sure if I am allowed to add you.--Xavier (talk) 11:55, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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A Dobos torte for you![edit]

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David Roth[edit]

Hi- I found an obituary for David Roth that I added as an external link to the article. There is some confusion as to where David Roth graduated from college. One obituary said: University of Wisconsin. This would be the flagship university of Wisconsin-University of Wisconsin–Madison. However, the obituary I added said David Roth went to University of Wisconsin–La Crosse. I hope you can use the obituary for the article. Many thanksRFD (talk) 23:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

For approving Template:Did you know nominations/Seoul Lantern Festival. The students certainly appreciated it, and the student who wrote it was beaming throughout the class after I showed the reader statistics :) --Hanyangprofessor2 (talk) 03:40, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

David Roth-Viroqua High School[edit]

Hi-I expanded the David Roth article using the Louisville Courier Journal obituary as a citation. Roth graduated from Viroqua High School in 1977 and I included that in the Roth article. I also added David Roth to the notable alumni in the Viroqua High School article with the obituary used as a citation. Many thanks-RFD (talk) 17:10, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for your great contribution in Wikipedia Asian Month 2015! AddisWang (talk) 14:27, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

happy holidays[edit]

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May you have very Happy Holidays, 4Meter4,

and a New Year filled with peace, joy, and beautiful music!

Best wishes, Voceditenore (talk) 19:10, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Arthur Davies[edit]

Just dropping by to say thank you for your life-saving edits to that article. I'll look in when I have had a bit of time to rummage for a bit more material. Davies was a good actor as well as a reliable tenor; I enjoyed his performances at Covent Garden and I'm glad to see his article surviving. Tim riley talk 20:07, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

You are welcome. I was completely unfamiliar with him until I stumbled upon the extremely short article on him.4meter4 (talk) 00:33, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

2016 year of the reader and peace[edit]

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Thank you for for all you do for opera, especially its singers, - thanks with my review, and the peace bell by Yunshui! Click on bell for celebratory music! - I archived 2015, but not your 2 requests, will do eventually ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:55, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Women in Music[edit]

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  • 10 to 31 January 2016
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John Dudley (tenor)[edit]

Thanks for the message. Sorry, I don't have time to create this article. Here is something that may help you get started -- this site has already been used in many Wikipedia articles and has survived FA review: [3]. Here's a wedding notice. Here are lots of photos of him. -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:10, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

Yvonne Ciannella[edit]

I found the soprano in old programs. Could you perhaps dig up more. An article was once deleted, I don't know on what sources, so am a bit unsure how much to use from there. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:06, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for digging up all those NYT articles! In the Creation: did she sing only Gabriel or also Eve? (In other words: was there another soprano?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:06, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

You are welcome, although that was the easy part. Finding the Panama City News Herald article with her education background took considerably more time to find. Eve was sung by soprano Louise Natale.4meter4 (talk) 20:14, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Special thanks then for Panama! I saw a website with personal detail such an age of 89 (but when?) - but didn't think it was a RS. Professional solo singing in 1951 gives you an idea anyway ;) - I remember that the Donizetti was in 1964 still unusual repertory but wouldn't know how to source that. (A little later, Anna Bolena was re-discovered at the Deutsche Oper am Rhein, with Teresa Żylis-Gara - also from Dortmund.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
She actually was a featured soloist on a recording released in Decemeber 1950 with the RSC and I found an article covering a performance of hers while a student at Queens performing in Elijah in 1948. My assumption would be that she graduated somewhere between 1948-1950 at about the age of 22; so we are looking for a 1926-1928 year of birth I would guess.4meter4 (talk) 20:35, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
peoplebyname says July 1926 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:08, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

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Update DYK preps[edit]

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My language problem, sorry. Ich singe Alt ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

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Thanks for a creating a great DYK article! FiendYT 00:45, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

50 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal[edit]

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Thank you for creating numerous high-quality musician articles. Please accept this token of appreciation. You're a great asset to Wikipedia! Zanhe (talk) 00:11, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Tamara Wilson[edit]

Updated DYK query.svg On 27 April 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Tamara Wilson, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Tamara Wilson won the Richard Tucker Award, "one of the most prestigious prizes in opera"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Tamara Wilson. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Tamara Wilson), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Two sisters[edit]

What do you think of sisters Carlotta Marchisio and Barbara Marchisio? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:23, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

Hi Gerda and 4meter4! I think they're very sweet. I've turned them blue SMirC-smile.svg. Best, Voceditenore (talk) 18:05, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
That is very sweet ;) - One tenor is not even red yet, - anything about Ernest Nicolas who sang in the first public performance of Rossini's last opera? Do we know where that was performed? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
Hi Gerda. He already has an article under his stage name Ernesto Nicolini. I've created a redirect from his birth name. I'll have a look for the venue. Voceditenore (talk) 04:49, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
Great, thank you! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:57, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Category:Recipients of the 125th Anniversary of the Confederation of Canada Medal has been nominated for discussion[edit]

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Proposed deletion of Herbie Helbig[edit]

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