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May 2008[edit]

Information.png Hi, the recent edit you made to Mary Jean Eisenhower has been reverted, as it appears to be unconstructive. Use the sandbox for testing; if you believe the edit was constructive, ensure that you provide an informative edit summary. You may also wish to read the introduction to editing. Thanks. iridescent 04:44, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

June 2008[edit]

The recent edits you have been making to the People to People Student Ambassador Program article are severely slanted. You have been asked a few times to conform your edits to Wikipedia's NPOV policy, to cite your sources, and in general to adopt encyclopedic style instead of making "this is a fraud"-type insertions. The editors have patiently tried to incorporate the first half dozen or so edit attempts, where possible, despite the lack of citations and objectivity. I have noted, however, that you have continued to not contribute in good faith, and have continued to periodically vandalize the article, and so I have reverted those efforts. Furthermore, I note that you have declared yourself to be Sheryl Hill [1], who is pursuing a lawsuit against the program and seeking a damage award. While I respect your right to pursue claims in court, you are clearly a biased party. Please review Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy. I recommend that you stop using Wikipedia to try to advance your suit so that editors can try to improve the article in as neutral a manner as possible. Thank you. Nowthenews (talk) 17:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

July 2008[edit]

The Conflict of Interest policy on Wikipedia states:

"If you are involved in a court case, or close to one of the litigants, you would find it very hard to demonstrate that what you wrote about a party or a law firm associated with the case, or a related area of law, was entirely objective. Even a minor slip up in neutrality in a court-case article on Wikipedia for an active case-in-progress could potentially be noticed by the courts or their parties, and this could potentially cause real-world harm, not just harm to Wikipedia. Because of this, we strongly discourage editing when this type of conflict exists."

Bloombergy (talk) 19:14, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

People to People and a Neutral Point of View[edit]

If this isn't Sheryl Hill (who left a message on my user talk page), please ignore the following message:


I would like to let you know that I feel for the loss of your son, and would like to do whatever I can in terms of raising awareness of the issues surrounding the death of your son and to see that policy changes do happen to increase the likelihood of being able to provide prompt medical attention when kids like your son are in danger.

As a youth leader myself who just came back (as of yesterday) from a deep-wilderness expedition in the back country area of Yellowstone National Park with a group of Boy Scouts, I can assure you that these issues are quite often at the front of my mind, and that I review each and every medical history of every boy that I serve with. Not all of them are of the best health, and sometimes extra considerations do need to be followed.

My #1 complaint about People to People has been mainly its deceptive advertising practices and an attempt to imply (even if not claimed) governmental status to the program that simply doesn't exist. This includes a repeated reliance upon the names of various American Presidents who have lent their name as an "honorary chairman" of the organization even though they likely know very little about how it operates.

Dwight Eisenhower, as far as my own research is able to come up with, did in fact help to originate the idea of "People to People Student Ambassadors", but I would have to agree that the current organization bears very little similarity to what was originally envisioned by Eisenhower. Eisenhower didn't "found" the organization, as he simply didn't have time and felt that such an organization ought to be kept independent of the government.

The main People to People Student Ambassadors article here on Wikipedia does need a little more balance and to be less of an advertisement, but I'll say that it has improved considerably from when I first even became aware of the organization. --Robert Horning (talk) 02:22, 3 August 2008 (UTC)