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"... the Maiden lets you know that here, in eight days, she has chased the English out of all the places they held on the river Loire by attack or other means: they are dead or prisoners or discouraged in battle. Believe what you have heard about the earl of Suffolk, the lord la Pole and his brother, the lord Talbot, the lord Scales, and Sir Fastolf; many more knights and captains than these are defeated."
Her Letter to the citizens of Tournai, 25 June 1429; Quicherat V, pp. 125–126, trans. Wikipedia.
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Example of lines. Example of Smallcaps.Last modified: ~Self (talk) 19:10, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

 The Soviet Union was destroyed by information
 - and this wave started from Solzhenitsyn's One Day

 Vitaly Korotich[1]

A nice little quote box that I made

~Self: (talk) 00:48, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

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The Spider and the Fly

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“Will you walk into my parlour?” said the Spider to the Fly,
 'Tis the prettiest little parlour that ever you did spy;
  The way into my parlour is up a winding stair,
   And I've a many curious things to shew when you are there.”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly, “to ask me is in vain,
 For who goes up your winding stair
  -can ne'er come down again.

“I'm sure you must be weary, dear, with soaring up so high;
 Will you rest upon my little bed?” said the Spider to the Fly.
“There are pretty curtains drawn around; the sheets are fine and thin,
 And if you like to rest awhile, I'll snugly tuck you in!”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly,  “for I've often heard it said,
 They never, never wake again, who sleep upon your bed!

Said the cunning Spider to the Fly,  “Dear friend what can I do,
 To prove the warm affection I 've always felt for you?
  I have within my pantry, good store of all that's nice;
   I'm sure you're very welcome — will you please to take a slice?”
“Oh no, no,” said the little Fly,  “kind Sir, that cannot be,
 I've heard what's in your pantry, and I do not wish to see!”

“Sweet creature!” said the Spider,  “you're witty and you're wise,
 How handsome are your gauzy wings, how brilliant are your eyes!
  I've a little looking-glass upon my parlour shelf,
   If you'll step in one moment, dear, you shall behold yourself.”
“I thank you, gentle sir,” she said,  “for what you 're pleased to say,
 And bidding you good morning now, I'll call another day.”

The Spider turned him round about, and went into his den,
For well he knew the silly Fly would soon come back again:
So he wove a subtle web, in a little corner sly,
And set his table ready, to dine upon the Fly.
Then he came out to his door again, and merrily did sing,
“Come hither, hither, pretty Fly, with the pearl and silver wing;
 Your robes are green and purple — there's a crest upon your head;
  Your eyes are like the diamond bright, but mine are dull as lead!”

Alas, alas! how very soon this silly little Fly,
Hearing his wily, flattering words, came slowly flitting by;
With buzzing wings she hung aloft, then near and nearer drew,
Thinking only of her brilliant eyes, and green and purple hue —
Thinking only of her crested head — poor foolish thing!
At last,
Up jumped the cunning Spider, and fiercely held her fast.
He dragged her up his winding stair, into his dismal den,
Within his little parlour — but she ne'er came out again!

And now dear little children, who may this story read,
To idle, silly flattering words, I pray you ne'er give heed:
Unto an evil counsellor, close heart and ear and eye,
And take a lesson from this tale, of the Spider and the Fly.

~By Mary Howitt, 1829

~Self (talk) 04:48, 21 November 2012 (UTC) Last modified: (talk) 11:10, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Notes to self:[edit]

WIP: Sugar glider[edit]

>Decent link for social behavior: [1] ~self (talk) 08:19, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Extended content
 Done (talk) 03:02, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

More to come? (need sources)[edit]

>>> Best source yet found: Mammalian Species No. 30 pp. 1-5. Petaurus breviceps. By Meredith J. Smith. Published 13 June 1973 by The American Society of Mammalogists. PDF:[2]

"the Sugar Glider does not incise the tree to obtain sap, rather it chews the bark and visits incisions made by the Yellow-bellied Glider."[3] Museum Victoria

Their primary native predators are owls, in addition to other birds of prey (kookaburras, eagles), reptiles (snakes, goannas), quolls and dingos. ← 'small' indicates unverified.

In addition to communicating with scent and body language, they have a wide range of vocalizations, with some having common descriptions and perceived responses:

  • Barking: similar to that of a small dog. This is a common form of communication, a general calling-out or when frightened. In captivity, excessive barking may be a sign of an individual needing attention or a more stimulating environment.
  • Crabbing: a strange sound, sometimes described as that of an "electric pencil sharpener" (or a cicada or locust), which escalates and decreases in pitch. This is a distress signal, generally indicating something is disturbing the individual.
  • Chattering: similar to crabbing, but quieter and faster, and can escalate to crabbing. This is fairly common and generally a sign of excitement.
  • Hissing: also similar to "crabbing" but higher pitched and pulses more rapidly. This is considered to be a sign of annoyance, sometimes used by a mother to discourage the attention of joeys.
  • Purring and singing: purring is faint, but similar to that of a cat and is common for a mother while nursing. Singing is another sound indicating contentment, often also associated with nursing and described as a soft rhythmic sound.
  • Crying: this sound is often associated with loneliness, separation from mate or family.

~Self: (talk) 18:24, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

WIP: Omnivore[edit]

Good luck!

To-do next (eventually, maybe) ~Eric F74.60.29.141 (talk) 08:52, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
Useful diagram? -- not really.(see right)
Consumer-resource system: Consumer categories based on material eaten (plant: green shades are live, brown shades are dead; animal: red shades are live, purple shades are dead; or particulate: grey shades) and feeding strategy (gatherer: lighter shade of each color; miner: darker shade of each color).
  • Find ref for: "Some may also consume certain fungi (mycophagy)."
  • Add section: Adaptation -or- Morphology
Many omnivores have biological adaptations that help them eat a variety of kinds of foods. They have adapted many characteristics of both carnivores and herbivores.[4]
Or: Omnivores typically have biological adaptations characteristic of both carnivores and herbivores, enabling them to eat a variety of foods.
  • Subdivide into Functional / Comparative morphology?
  • Add section: Taxonomy -or- Classification -or- Trophic phenotypes -or- ???
Include something like:
The term 'Omnivore' is used as a trophic description for the feeding behavior of a wide variety of organisms; from the holozoic amoeba[find a ref!] to humans,[5] but is not a specific taxonomic or phylogenic classification. Unlike carnivore, herbivore, and other oblate classifications, an omnivore can fill multiple trophic positions in the food web.
Here's a ref for: paramecium = omnivore

The Functional Consequences of Biodiversity: Empirical Progress and Theoretical Extensions (MPB-33); Volume 33 of Monographs in Population Biology; Editors: Ann P. Kinzig, David Tilman, Stephen Pacala; Princeton University Press, 2002; ISBN 0691088225, 9780691088228; pp. 392; P. 106

Don't forget stuff about:
  • Teeth (bears, etc). Enzymes (crickets, etc.). Tongues (sugar gliders, etc.). Digestive tracts, metabolism, etc.

~Self (talk) 00:42, 4 October 2012 (UTC) ~Self (talk) 21:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Something about incidental omnivory, e.g.:
Herbivorous grazers (undulates) inevitably ingest insects while consuming grasses, etc.[6]

___Potential sources:___

  • Large Herbivore Ecology, Ecosystem Dynamics and Conservation; Kjell Danell, Roger Bergström, Patrick Duncan, John Pastor; Cambridge University Press, May 25, 2006 - 522 pages; ISBN 0521830052, 9780521830058 [7]
  • Mark McGinley (Lead Author);C Michael Hogan (Topic Editor) "Omnivore". In: Encyclopedia of Earth. Eds. Cutler J. Cleveland (Washington, D.C.: Environmental Information Coalition, National Council for Science and the Environment). [First published in the Encyclopedia of Earth November 11, 2011; Last revised Date November 29, 2011; Retrieved October 4, 2012 [8]
  • Krimmel, B. A. (2011) Omnivorous Insects: Evolution and Ecology in Natural and Agricultural Ecosystems. Nature Education Knowledge (9):4 [9]
  • Polis, G. A. & Strong, D. R. Food web complexity and community dynamics. The American Naturalist 147, 813–846 (1995)

See also: Evolutionary developmental biology,

~Self (talk) 19:57, 4 October 2012, 20:22, 4 October 2012 (UTC) (talk) 06:19, 6 October 2012 (UTC) (talk) 06:33, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Marsupial torpor[edit]

Needs attention. ~E (talk) 00:33, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Exudate / Exudativore, etc.[edit]

Needs attention:

  • Insect exudates? - honeydew, manna?
  • Is nectar an exudate?
  • Gummivore vs. exudativore?

~Self (talk) 04:22, 5 October 2012 (UTC) |Stuff, etc. }}


Hi to you! Wouldn't it be a good idea to create an account? With friendly regards, Lova Falk talk 10:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Zhongfeng Mingben[edit]

> Link to userspace draft talk page (or whatever it's called). ~Self (talk) 06:06, 14 October 2012 (UTC)


So, which ancient master is next? Joshua Jonathan (talk) 05:16, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm... I'll have to think about that; who were you in the life prior to that one? The Mingben article is great - I think it's ready for a quality rating review, certainly better than a 'C'; if fact (imo) it is only a few tweaks away from 'GA'; and it might be nice to get some fresh eyes for advice, etc. ~Eric F (talk) 05:27, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
I've started a draft on Korean Seon copying the available text on Wikipedia. nice one, when you like to search for sources. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 05:35, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
I'll give it a go; but for a day or two, I might seek "a life of wandering and solitary meditation". ~E (talk) 05:45, 20 October 2012 (UTC)


Have a look at this site: H-Buddhism. See this thread as an example. Awsome! Joshua Jonathan (talk) 07:59, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. Whenever I read such as that, I tend to attempt to put everything into a "big picture". I wonder if anybody attempted to correlate gong'on/haotou with ancient Greek dialogs? My introduction to such topic originated with studies in Philosophy/logic which leads to mathematics/physics. My favorite reading from the 80s were: Dancing wu li Masters and Goedel, Escher, Bach; the latter takes an interesting koanic/gong'on approach to the nature of sentience. ~E74.60.29.141 (talk) 16:34, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
It's quite likely that comparisons have been made. Hofstadter is great; The Mind's I. Joshua Jonathan (talk) 18:00, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
>> See also: User_talk:Joshua_Jonathan/Korean_Seon#Mahayana (I gotta go... to see an Edvard Munch exhibit before some unnamed person nags me to death.) ~E (talk) 19:03, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Arboreal locomotion[edit]

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The clause you deleted from the sentence that was already there is important to that sentence. Without it, it makes little sense. Also, I don't see why the caption doesn't correspond to the article. It is related relevant to the topic of animal locomotion in trees.

As for your edit, while I find it unencyclopedic (do we really know that leopards climb up trees to relax because of the vantage point? It would make escape more difficult if there were enemies approaching.), I have no objection to you adding it back in so long as you don't delete that clause again for the reasons explained above.

Look, if you to be nit-picky, then clearly the picture is decorative as it is only marginally related to the topic of the article. Since you want to be nit-picky, please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Captions. Your caption is stating the obvious which makes it a bad caption (violation of criteria 1). The caption that is there serves criteria 5 as it draws the reader into the article by expanding upon the picture and showing why a leopard might be on a tree in the first place. Transcendence (talk) 06:15, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
On the contrary, I am familiar with those topics. Also I don't see how it's spam considering that you don't have the template on here already, but hey if you say so, I apologize for trying to welcome you. Transcendence (talk) 07:31, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
There is scant evidence that you are a regular. You're not signed in and your edits only go back a month. So please excuse me for making an error in thinking that you're not a regular. I've been nothing but sincere in our interaction, and yet you've decided to take a derisive snarky approach towards me with pedantic nonsense and assuming I've been acting in bad faith by templating you (oh how ironic, see Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars Section "Recipients should still assume good faith". Specifically "How were they to know you are a regular?" which is in bold. I assume since you used the dttr template that you knew that, right? Furthermore, that page is an essay, not a policy. See User:DESiegel/Template the regulars for the rebuttal. By the way, according to User:ArielGold/Etiquette2 which people like me who patrol the recent changes page follow, you don't qualify as a regular.). I don't appreciate that. What I would appreciate is if you would stop harassing me. Transcendence (talk) 18:26, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


Surreal Barnstar.png The Surreal Barnstar
 :) Joshua Jonathan (talk) 07:51, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

November 2012[edit] (talk) 02:12, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you also for all the work you have done on the Sugar Glider. All the best. Figaro (talk) 09:03, 9 November 2012 (UTC)

Your request at files for upload[edit]

Symbol confirmed.svg Hello, and thank you for your request at Files for Upload! The file has been uploaded. You can find it at File:The Spiders screenshot.jpg. See Wikipedia:Images#Using images to learn image syntax, or Wikipedia:Creation and usage of media files for other types of files. Regards, Armbrust The Homonculus 08:17, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: C&C[edit]

Sounds great. The more the merrier. Information on the ports is going to be useful, especially in the gameplay department. That manual might come in handy. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 05:02, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

December 2012[edit]


This pronunciation is a Chinese canadian who record, but I want a native Quebeckers who record. Fête (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

This is my voice, but I'm a Chinese Canadian. Fête (talk) 01:14, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

According to Salvidrim!: "As I Quebec native I can vouch for the sounds." ... So, if you're worried that the accent isn't correct, - don't worry about it; Quebec is a cosmopolitan multinational city, right? ;) ~E: (talk) 01:34, 30 December 2012 (UTC) (talk) 01:00, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[edit]

Welcome to 2013

January 2013[edit]

Beate Sirota Gordon[edit]

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Hello editor

Condolences on the death of your grandmother. There does not appear to be anything on the Internet about her death. Can you provide a link to an obituary or other form of announcement as we unfortunately need confirmation. (See wp:Verifiability policy). Regards, (and hopefuly a happier New Year) - 220 of Borg 01:45, 1 January 2013 (UTC) n.b. reposted from (talk)

Eric ~, I've wrongly assumed you were ‎ (talk · contribs) and your IP had changed haven't I!(?) Face-blush.svg (post struck out!) Facepalm - 220 of Borg 02:03, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Well, at least the country and coast are the same! Apparently you and the other IP editor are only a few hundred miles apart. - 220 of Borg 02:23, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

I'm a little concerned that we're making changes based on the word of an IP. This is why I only wanted to add photos for now. Assuming its legit, there will presumably be increased traffic to the page once the obits, etc. are published. However... there have been WP hoaxes before; but Beate Sirota doesn't seem to be a likely target - who knows, maybe she has prankster friends (?). ~Eric F (talk) 03:01, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, we must be careful! Though at age 89 death is certainly strongly possible! I stumbled upon a multi-page, multi-account hoax/hoax-in-preparation myself once. Strictly speaking we should revert until death is confirmed. I have been meaning to contact WWGB (talk · contribs) who is very active at Deaths in ... pages for advice, but I got a little sidetracked. Perhaps we should get IP Editor ‎to directly e-mail the Wikimedia foundation to confirm, if we can't find a source? - 220 of Borg 03:36, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
 Done (talk) 20:00, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
As you are aware, refs have been found and the issue is therefore resolved! Face-smile.svg - 220 of Borg 12:00, 1 January 2013 (UTC)


3rd question of your FAQ reminds me of this. :) -- Toshio Yamaguchi 23:46, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

lol ~Me: (talk) 00:07, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

Help desk[edit]

I don't know how many people use this, but I responded to your help desk query, Wikipedia:Help_desk#Paraphrased_quote CTF83! 04:54, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Face-smile.svg Thank you for fixing that.   ~Me: (talk) 05:34, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome! CTF83! 11:19, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

User page[edit]

Since you are a very active IP editor, I created your user page for you (since unregistered users can't create non-talk pages, even there own user page). If you don't want it, you can put {{db-u1}} on it. Enjoy! The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 05:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

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English course[edit]

Hi E. I see you're doing well on the details on Jesus. Maybe you can help on my English grammar. I'm editing on the Satcitananda article, and I wondered whether "Satcitananda" can be translated, or should I say, "understood", "expressed", "experienced" as "Insight is blissfull living truth". Compare this to modern understanding of "enlightenment", where descriptions as "Enlightenment is marvellous, it can't be described in words" are taken to be as literal, factual descriptions of "things", instead of statements about the subjective experience or phenomenology (Dutch: "beleving"). What are the Englisg terms to point to this use of language as phenomenological, even poetical, descriptions of subjective experience, instead of objective factual measuremental descriptions? It has to do with the difference between nouns, verbs and adjectives. It also has got to do with a difference between evocative language and descriptive language. I'm handicapped here, being a Dutchman, and not a native English speaker. Greetings, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:07, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

One interesting aspect of the word is the sense of to pile on or accrue in layers – which, to me, is reminiscent of the Gödelian notion of recursive self-referential-ism: becoming a unity system (etc., yadda, yadda). I wonder if Hofstadter has anything to say on the term? Anyway... I should at least read the article before slobbering like a wild fox.  ;)  Btw, I wonder if we should make a redirect for: 'wild fox slobber' → 'Zhongfeng_Mingben#Wild fox slobber' (perhaps a future article?). ~E: (talk) 18:11, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
You're hitting two nails right on top. Three, counting the wild fox slobber for two. The "self-referential-ism" is a good association; I can't put it in words, but you got what I mean. Simplistic translations are wrong information indeed. And the Mahāvākyas can indeed be used as "koans", in the sense of pointing to "self-referential" insight-truth-comprehension - it's not that the Universe/Brahman is whatever, but that "insight" is the "highest" "truth", which - ah, too many words. Thanks! Face-smile.svg Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:24, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
PS: done. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 19:24, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm starting to get a grasp of the concept, but am having a hard time crystallizing it into a simple English phrase. It deals with an internal realization, rather than an external "thing"; which English has a hard time dealing with. For one thing, it seems that its not really considered a noun (as we understand it) in its Sanskrit/Hindi sense. Still pondering...


Kleemann, Harald; (2001)  Point Ωmega : the Singularity at the End of Time P. 466 ; see also: p. 502

thusfar ...[edit]

  • Satcitananda → sat-cit-Ananda
सत् ←? turya brahma   =   sat   [4th state / superior power / being in that state of soul]  +  [priest / one self-existent Spirit / Supreme Spirit / Absolute]
चित् — turIya brahmA   =   cit   [knowing or thinking (or giving heed) / to form an idea in the mind / piling or piled up (or forming a layer or stratum)]  +   [(of/relating to brahma?)] — See: citta ; cetas ; cetana ; caitanya
आनन्द ...  turIyAtIta brAhmaNa   =   Ananda
E. g. [10]:
सच्चिदानन्द – adj. — consisting of existence and thought and joy
सच्चिदानन्द – m. — existence and thought and joy
सच्चिदानन्द — eternity, knowledge and bliss ; e.g.: [11]   sac-cid-ānanda, pūrṇa, kṛṣṇera svarūpa → "Lord Kṛṣṇa's body is eternal [sat], full of knowledge [cit] and full of bliss [ānanda]." —Śrī Caitanya Caritāmṛta; Ādi 4.61[CC Ādi 4]
...except as a name: Schchidanand

~E: (talk) 02:24, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

Last modified: (talk) 23:56, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

March 2013[edit]

Hello, I'm Sitethief. I wanted to let you know that I undid one of your recent contributions, such as the one you made with this edit to Year of the Elephant, because it didn’t appear constructive to me. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks, Sitethief~talk to me~ 18:06, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

=== Constructiveness ===

As part of my work with several elephant-related articles, I am trying to achieve some constructive consistency among related articles. I believe that this edit which was cited to this scholar and included a relevant quote within the reference relating to secondary source for Surah (Chapter) 105 of the Qur'an [Sūrat al-Fīl ("The Elephant")]. I believe that this edit was in fact constructive, especially since I needed someplace for a link from other articles (e.g.: Cultural depictions of elephants. I am considering writing an article for Mahmud (elephant).

Also, note that Mahmoud (elephant) redirects to the article in question (however, Mahmud [Maḥmūd] is the primary transliteration of the Arabic given name, and is the preferred and most common spelling).[Note] In addition, I was about to include the following citation, when I discovered that my "nonconstructive edit" was reverted. There are a number of areas in the article which could be improved, but if my contributions are not welcome, then I shall not contribute.

  • Kistler, John M. ; foreword by Richard Lair (2007). "38 - The Yeaf of The Elephant". War elephants. Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press. p. 177. ISBN 0803260040. ...the lead elephant, named Mahmud, stopped and knelt down, refusing to go further. 

~E: (talk) 20:24, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

My sincere apologies for this, I quicly scanned your edit and thought it was some kind of vandalism. I will look better next time. Happy editting! Sitethief~talk to me~ 22:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

About merging David Sulzer and Dave Soldier[edit]

Take a look at the reply I got from the BLP specialist I mentioned - User talk:FreeRangeFrog#Two bios about the same person, good advice about trimming the puffery. Roger (talk) 17:54, 22 March 2013 (UTC)