User talk:ANOMALY-117

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Hello! I noticed that you had expressed a desire to be adopted, so I am offering to adopt you. You may see more info about me on my userpage. Do you accept? --Mark (Mschel) 15:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Tiepolo, Giambattista - Die Unbefleckte Empfängnis - 1767 - 1768 - Drachen.jpg   This user is a WikiDragon. of the last of a dying breed...


Contributing to discussions[edit]

Hi ANOMALY-117, I was just looking at the discussion over at Dragon and it took me a while to work it out, but then I realised that you're adding comments on other people's comments inside their comments. - --Paularblaster (talk) 22:32, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

If you go to a new line after their comment, and start your own comment on what they say with a colon (:), it should indent and then we can all see who says what. - --Paularblaster (talk) 22:34, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
And two colons (go to "edit this page" to check it out) will indent further, for a comment on a comment on a comment. - --Paularblaster (talk) 22:35, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
  • But if you just want to add your own comment on the general topic (not on someone else's comment on that topic) you can start a new bullet-point (without having to introduce a new heading) by using an asterisk (*). - --Paularblaster (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
    • And you can even use asterisks (rather than colons) to indent. - --Paularblaster (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
But personally I think that looks rather messy! - --Paularblaster (talk) 22:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Hope this helps!


Goodness - thank you. Glad to be of service. - --Paularblaster (talk) 22:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank You![edit]

Thanks very much for the quasi-award/wiki-smile you posted to my userpage. It is much appreciated and as these things should be, unexpected. For future reference, please place any awards/etc. on the editor's talk page and let them decide where and what to post within their userspace if they so choose. Although I display them on my main userpage, there are some editors who do not display any awards they might receive and let them stay on their talk pages that eventually get archived.-MBK004 (talk) 03:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits[edit]

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. On many keyboards, the tilde is entered by holding the Shift key, and pressing the key with the tilde pictured. You may also click on the signature button Button sig2.png located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 18:49, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

New Article[edit]

Take a look here at my Sandbox User:MBK004/Sandbox to see where I work on major edits to articles. (Please don't edit it). Then follow the directions here to create your own: Wikipedia:User_page#How_do_I_create_a_user_subpage.3F. From there, start formulating the article and from there I'll help you out. You don't need to leave me a message every time you need help there because I'll put your sandbox on my watchlist so I'll see when you make edits to it. Hope this helps.
Besides, you don't need references to start an article, as long as it is inherently notable enough to warrant one. I started Supply class fast combat support ship, but I'll be leaving the actual article writing and expansion to someone else since my interests are more towards warships as seen here User:MBK004/Ships.-MBK004 (talk) 20:03, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi! I moved your new article to User:ANOMALY-117/Sandbox. If you make a temporary article, please leave it in a place like that until it's a bit more complete. Small articles are fine, but in general, don't leave any editorial comments in an article, so if an article is likely to be deleted and you feel it needs comments like those to prevent that, it's best to work on it for a bit somewhere else first. --JoanneB 20:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Here are some tips and things to work on with regards to your article from WP:SHIPS.
Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Guidelines
Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Tools
---Hope this helps. -MBK004 (talk) 20:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Spartan?[edit]

Hello, to answer your question, yes, I am associated with the Halo universe and halopedia. I used to be a very active vandal fighter(if you don't believe me, check my barnstars ;) but only on breaks. I haven't been very active during school. If you ever decide to go to Halopedia, or if you are already there, let me know. Enjoy playing "whack-a-vandal." Peace. Spartan-James 00:46, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Ship tasks you can help with[edit]

These tasks aren't exciting or glamorous, but they need to be done and WP:SHIPS would be very grateful if you can help out. I think you can do them with your broken arm. I have two tasks in mind: Article assessment and Fixing U.S. Navy jacks. I'll do one of each myself and walk you through the process step-by-step.


WikiProject Ships has tags that we put at the top of article talk pages. The tags help us maintain a list of ship articles. They also let us rate the quality of an article and how important it is. That helps us figure out what to work on: if an article is very important, but it's of poor quality, we need to fix it! Here's how to assess articles, step by step.

  1. Check out the page describing our assessment process. Especially important are the tables describing the quality scale and the importance scale. When you look at an article, use these charts to figure out how good it is, and how important it is.
  2. Go to Category:Unassessed-Class Ships articles, which lists all the pages that we haven't assessed.
  3. Pick an article you think you can assess. I'm choosing USS Abarenda (IX-131), because I think ship articles are easy to assess.
  4. Look at the article and figure out how to rate it. Abarenda best fits the criteria for "stub" quality, and since it's a ship, it's "mid" importance.
  5. Go to the talk page, and add your assessment to the tag. See how I did it here. Write an edit summary (mine was "assessed for WP:SHIPS") and save.

That's it! Now repeat steps 2-5 until your brain melts.

Fixing U.S. Navy jacks[edit]

We used to put the United States Navy jack in the infobox of ship articles, but we talked about it and decided that the ensign, the Flag of the United States, is a better choice. You can't just go around pasting the same picture into every article, though, because the number of stars on the flag changed every time a state was admitted. We've got a template you can use to make sure the right flag appears on articles. Here's how to do it:

  1. Go to Jack of the United States and click one of the images there. I'm picking Image:US Naval Jack 48 stars.svg, because it's used on tons of articles.
  2. Scroll to the bottom, to the "File links" section. This shows you all the pages that use this image. Pick a ship article. I'm picking USS Thompson (DD-627).
  3. Edit the page, and look for the spot where the image is used. It'll look something like this: [[Image:US Naval Jack 48 stars.svg|48px|USN Jack]]
  4. Erase that text and replace it with this: {{USN flag|}}
  5. Now you need to add the year, so that it shows the right flag. Read the article and figure out when the ship was last decommissioned (not struck), or when it sank. Type the date after the "|" in the template. For example, Thompson decommissioned in 1954, so I type 1954 into the template and end up with this: {{USN flag|1954}}
  6. Write an edit summary (mine was "replacing jack with template") and save the article. See how I did it here.

Again, repeat until brain melts. Let me know if you have any questions. I'll keep an eye out to see how this goes, and if you have trouble I'll help out. TomTheHand 03:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

i'll see what i can do! ANOMALY-117 (talk) 21:27, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Hello! I looked at what you've done so far and I have a couple of comments. What you did at USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63) is exactly right. However, at USS Adams (1799), you replaced the existing flag with [[USN|1814]]. You need to replace it with {{USN flag|1814}}. Note the curly brackets and the word "flag". Also remember to use an edit summary, but don't bother to type ~~~~. It doesn't do anything in edit summaries. TomTheHand (talk) 22:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Your Userpage[edit]

no offense, dude, but your userpage is really a mess. you should clean it up somehow Mr. Joe Cool Dude (talk) 23:37, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Wow, you found my Autograph page fast

How did you find it so fast? I just created it a few minutes ago? Fox rules for sure!--Smashbrosboy —Preceding comment was added at 00:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

oh i was browsing through recent changes and saw it pop up then i moved on but quikly went back to see what it was! man i haven't played that game in over ayear but i bet i can still kick butt with fox (thank god for the c-stick)--ANOMALY-117 00:17, 7 December 2007 (UTC)


Hi. I've moved your question at CVU from the dormant "Let's Clarify This Proposal" section to a new section on the bottom where it has a better chance of being seen. You'll find it at Wikipedia_talk:Counter-Vandalism_Unit/Task_Force#Online. I believe it takes statusbot a while to notice that you are active, but I'm not sure how it works. I know sometimes I show green when I come back after being inactive for a while. I know sometimes I don't show green even though I've been online for some time. Not being technically inclined myself, I regard it as one of the mysteries of the universe. :) You may get a more knowledgeable answer at the CVU talk page. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:50, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for signing my guest book[edit]

Thanks for signing, cheers! Sirkad(Talk) 23:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar barnstar.png The Guest Book Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to ANOMALY-117 for signing Sirkad's Guestbook.


i'm ANOMALY-116, ANOMALLY-117'S YOUNGER BROTHER --ANOMALY-116 (talk) 05:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't understand what the heck you want to say. (talk) 06:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Watch out[edit]

Hey! This could be classified as a a personal attack, please be more careful in future. Thanks. --Mark (Mschel) 14:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Halopedia[edit]

OK, first off, halopedia and wikipedia are not connected in any way. First, you go to and click on create an account(upper left corner). Then you fill out the same stuff you did for the wikipedia account sign in and that's it. Other than that, it's basically the same setup here, i.e. click edit to change stuff, add personal info, talk page, etc. When you get that done, and if you use the same name, tell me...or I'll find out...Peace. Spartan-James 06:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

red wolf[edit]

No, the red wolf lives in North America. The Southern East Asian wolf lives in the Middle East and central Asia.Dark hyena (talk) 17:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Wiki etiquette[edit]

Perhaps you might want to leave User:TTN alone? Your behaviour could potentially be seen as stalking as well, and saying that you could be his worst nightmare is dangerously close to a personal attack. Benea (talk) 23:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Disputes like this are best settled between the two parties themselves, without non-involved parties adding to them. They'll sort it out themselves, or take it to higher powers for settlement. No need for you to worry about them, or get into trouble yourself. Benea (talk) 23:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

ok ok ill pull out.ANOMALY-117 (talk) 23:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

User talk:TTN[edit]

Leaving a quote like: "i can be a friend or i can be your worst nightmare" on another user's page may indeed cause much difficulty for you from Wikipedia administrators, regardless of the underlying issue. Please refrain from such comments in future. --Bradeos Graphon (talk) 23:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

look im sorry i took it off ok! ANOMALY-117 (talk) 23:40, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

That's good. Discussion is also a good thing, but sometimes people need some time to cool off. Thanks for changing your message. --Bradeos Graphon (talk) 23:42, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
I dunno, i thought it was appropriate for someone harassing others and nominating multiple articles for deletion with dubious reasoning behind it. If i were acting that way, i would expect much worse than that to be said to me. though, that's just me... RingtailedFox 23:44, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

thanks ill watch and help when i can but i don't want to cause anymore trouble then their is in the first place. ANOMALY-117 (talk) 23:47, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Like I said, WP:Civility is in force regardless of the underlying issue. TTN could be completely in the wrong, I don't know, but Wikipedia would implode in about twenty minutes if the civility, harassment and personal attack policies go away. There are other ways to deal with someone you think is being disruptive: Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct and Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents for two. --Bradeos Graphon (talk) 23:51, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

good point. sooo..what do we do about the stalking?ANOMALY-117 (talk) 23:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

I'll contact User:Anthony Appleyard about this. he's an admin. RingtailedFox 23:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I don't see evidence of stalking. User:TTN has nominated a number of similar articles for deletion. There is considerable debate going on at the moment over whether they should be kept, so perhaps the nominations were justified. But it isn't really for you or I to worry about. Both are free to take more formal measures if they feel it is justified, when the situation will be examined by impartial administrators. Benea (talk) 23:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Getting input from an uninvolved editor or editors is always good. The links I gave above are where to go if you want more than one person's input. Normally, I'd suggest Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User conduct first, and see where that gets you. If it is an extreme case or you don't hear anything back in a day or two, then Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents makes more sense. Good luck! --Bradeos Graphon (talk) 23:59, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Braedos: I've grown tired of trying to wade through Wikipedia's bureaucracy, recieving no help anyway in the end. I no longer ask the admins for help, i just do things on my own. Same thing in real life. and what are "doing things on my own"? Exactly what i've been doing so far. Remaining civil, but handling things myself. RingtailedFox 00:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

however you do mange yourself to an extant right imean theres doing it yourselff and then going to far right? ANOMALY-117 (talk) 00:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC) Yes, and if i overstep my boundaries (intentionally or unknowingly), i encourage others to correct me so i can learn from that and avoid the same mistake next time. RingtailedFox 00:25, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I haven't looked into the content issue at all. I'd have to know more about the subject to help there (and it is a subject I know very little about). What administrators usually do is stop obvious stuff; harassment, vandalism, etc. Content issues have an entirely different resolution process. It is important to try our steps in these dispute resolution processes, though. It will save you a lot of trouble in the long run. You'll want to be able to say: "I tried that in good faith" when the time is right. --Bradeos Graphon (talk) 02:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


Well, actually, I did get help from someone to fix my user page and I don't know much about page formatting (apart from the basics), but I'll help to get you someone. Is that alright? And by the way, if you like my user page design, I'll help to make yours like that, unless you prefer another look. --Zacharycrimsonwolf 14:29, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

I've done some changes to your page; hope you like it! However, I had to remove certain stuff, its making you page too messy. Word of advice: You don't have to add every userbox/template/etc to your page, you have enough as it is. If you insist on adding some new ones, remove your old one, like the test userbox, I don't really see a use for it.
PS:If you don't like the changes I made, you can always tell me or WP:REVERT it. But ask for advice from your adopter before you do it, though! Cheers!! --Zacharycrimsonwolf 14:49, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
By the way, if you want to include a picture of the Yamato or dragons, you could find a picture that you like and put a link to it on my talk page (the red part of my sig, crimsonwolf, is a shortcut. Click on it.) and I'll put it in for you. This way, you get to choose what you want! :) --Zacharycrimsonwolf 15:02, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and, I removed a couple of userboxes for you, there are some of which you have two. Perhaps you might want to look through them again and decide which are the ones you really need. They make your user page very long (and empty-looking). Cheers, --Zacharycrimsonwolf 15:13, 11 December 2007 (UTC)


Advice from your adopter.[edit]

Hey there! How are things going? As your adopter I just wanted to give you a little advice on various topics. First of all, try to make more contributions to the mainspace. I have noticed many edits to your userpage, talkpages, others secret pages, etc. But very little in the way of actual edits to the encyclopedia. Anything is fine, as long as it helps build the encyclopedia. Reverting vandalism, fixing typos, and all that sort of stuff counts. Secondly, it would be nice if you could work on your spelling and grammar. A good starting point would be capitalizing all letters that begin a sentence, and capitalizing the letter "I" when used in reference to yourself. Lastly, and of least importance: I would recommend getting rid of most of your userboxes that do not relate to your Wikipedia activity. They can send the wrong message about why you are editing, and frankly not many people care at all what television shows you like, or anything like that. --Mark (Mschel) 19:01, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

one word: subpage. ill see what i can do.ANOMALY-117 (talk) 01:09, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


Hello! How are you? --HotAbs (talk) 01:14, 12 December 2007 (UTC) ????????????????????????????????????thats really random how did you find me? or should i already know who you are?..............teddy?

Just browsed trough a few userpages and landed on yours :) Can i give you a few tips? --HotAbs (talk) 01:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Have you ever heard of enheancing wikipedia experience?--HotAbs (talk) 01:22, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

?????????????noo.. why?... and where is this going? this about my user page or something?.....your a little creepy, creepy like a door to door salesman that talks fast and won't take no for an answer. your not one of them are you?,ANOMALY-117 (talk) 01:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Nope, just wanted to make tiny suggestions... What is your browser for browsing Wikipedia? Maybe i can suggest a few thingies... --HotAbs (talk) 02:32, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

my browser?????????? i think it's the search bar on the right side of my page. why?

Well, do you use FireFox? I can suggest like Lupin's tools, or maybe a pop-up, wich appears as a hovering box. I am on wikipedia and i watch for new pages. I check for validity or if it's a random or attack page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HotAbs (talkcontribs) 02:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

aol. attack page?

An attack page is more like a page for launching insults at people or groups of people. And I agree with your adopter; you should use proper format for writing, full stops, capitals, leaving a space after every punctuation marks (full stop, exclamation marks, etc.) and so on. This is just an advice, nothing offensive whatsoever. Cheers, Zacharycrimsonwolf 13:37, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

USS Abraham Lincoln[edit]

I think I've figured out what you're talking about. Please try to be a bit clearer in what you want to say in future however. I'm afraid you're wrong however.

Pg 48 - "The frigate?" replied Conseil, turning on his back; "I think that master had better not count too much on her." "You think so?" "I say that, at the time that I threw myself into the sea, I heard the men at the wheel say, 'the screw and rudder are broken.'" "Broken?" "Yes, broken by the monster's teeth. It is the only injury the Abraham Lincoln has sustained. But it is a bad look out for us - she no longer answers her helm."

And after that the Abraham Lincoln disappears from the story, and the narrators enter the Nautilus, where the rest of the story takes place. The Lincoln was attacked, but not sunk in the novel, so I will revert your change. Benea (talk) 01:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

i would triple cheack that from what i read and watched on dvd the ship sinks towards the end of the middle of the book 3 1/2 through the book
Are you sure you're actually reading Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea? It's only one book, not three. And I can assure you it didn't sink. What is this DVD you're referring to? Benea (talk) 01:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
sorry thats three and a half, (15/16?) way through the book.
DVD: the movie of course however it isn't the same as the book but the abraham sites the natilus agian and nemo sinks her.--ANOMALY-117 (talk) 01:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

(by the way my fresmen nickname is Nemo) --ANOMALY-117 (talk) 01:49, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

There have been at least twelve film adaptations of 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea. It is possible that in one of those, the story line has been altered to include a second encounter and subsequent sinking of the Abraham Lincoln. In the novel as written by Jules Verne, she is not sunk. We therefore can't write that she was on the disambiguation page, as at best it is misleading, and at worst, simply wrong. It is enough to simply say that a frigate of that name features in the book, and leave it at that. I'd recommend reading it by the way. It would go well with your nickname. Benea (talk) 01:54, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

yes i've read it but it was back in fith grade and i don't rember much. yea the thick one. i realllllllllllly good at reading. and yes the connection with my nickname i have pointed that out to friends but its mainly because of my broken arm and me being a fish. ANOMALY-117 (talk) 02:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC) however i do hope that people will start to refer the nick name to Captin Nemo.ANOMALY-117 (talk) 02:02, 12 December 2007 (UTC) hmm.. wow so sould we post comments about the 20 billion re-writes and movies?ANOMALY-117 (talk) 02:02, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

That won't be necessary. There is a link to the novel on the page, which contains a summary of the story, and information on the remakes and reinterpretations that have been produced. A number of these then link to the films, etc in question. Trying to fit in everything on the disambiguation page would seriously overload it, and providing exhaustive information is not the point of a disambiguation page. Benea (talk) 02:08, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


Just go here and modify it anyway you'd like. Zenlax T C S 20:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Your V's shop assistant request[edit]

Dear ANOMALY-117,

After careful consideration, I, Vintei, have decided to decline your request. This might be one of the reasons but not limited to the following:
  1. You do not have enough mainspace edits. Required: 100 You have: 38

After reaching all the requests, you are welcome to come back and request again. Thank you.-- Vintei  talk  22:17, 12 December 2007 (UTC)


please stop the harassment, okay? it's not apperciated. if you're going to act stupidly, do it on your own talk page, not mine. RingtailedFox 17:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

I endorse the view that you should change your sig. You should also avoid the personal attacks (See WP:NPA and, as an aside, the correct spelling is "appreciated"). --Jack Merridew 07:29, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Your VandalProof Application[edit]

Dear ANOMALY-117,

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof! Unfortunately, your application has been declined because it seems that you don't have at least 250 mainspace edits. When you fulfill this requirement, feel free to re-apply.

Snowolf How can I help? 23:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Fair-use image[edit]

You have one of these on your userpage: Image:Texas Longhorn logo.svg. Because the image is copyrighted, and therefore is only used on WP under fair-use criteria, the image cannot be anywhere other than article space. Would you please remove it? Thank you. I (talk) 03:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

harassment part 2[edit]

that's alright. if you're sorry for doing it, then i forgive you for what ya did :) RingtailedFox 02:36, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for forgiving me and if you need anything let me know.

by the way im glad you kept your signature. ANOMALY-117 (talk) 02:53, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


Rockefeller Center Tree.jpg

-- Vintei  Talk  01:26, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Custom signatures[edit]

Sorry, please choose from an existing design. There will be new designs soon. Sorry for the inconvinience.-- Vintei  Talk  17:43, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

wikiships project[edit]

sure, i'll join RingtailedFoxTalkContribs 22:04, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Your delivery[edit]

Add this code to the bottom of your page:

<div style="position: fixed; right:0; bottom:0; display:block; height:{{{1|150}}}px; width:{{{1|150}}}px;"><div style="position: relative; width: {{{1|150}}}px; height: {{{1|150}}}px; overflow: hidden"> <div style="position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 0px; font-size: 300px; overflow: hidden; line-height: 300px; z-index: 3">[[Fair use|...]]</div> <div style="position: absolute; top: 0px; left: 0px; z-index: 2">[[Image:Forest_fire_model.gif|150px]]</div> </div> </div>

which would produce:

Also, you can change the size of the image by changing the 150px. Thank you for shopping at V's place.

Macy's123 23:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Ascii art delivery failure[edit]

Hello, I'm sorry to inform you that I cannot make ASCII art animate. Please select a static image without motion and then resubmit your request. Thankyou!-- penubag  00:58, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

New Signature[edit]

You wanted an abnormal signature with the colors red, silver, blue and grey. Here's the signature that I came up with. I hope you like it.


[[User:ANOMALY-117|<strong><font color="#8B8589" face="Comic Sans Ms">AN<font color="#CF1020">O<font color="#002FA7">MA<font color="#FFD800">LY<font color= "black">117</font></font></font></font></font></strong>]]<sup>[[User talk:ANOMALY-117|Talk]]</sup>

RuneWiki777 23:45, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Iowa and Yamato[edit]

I'd certainly be prepared to offer a neutral view, but at the moment I don't think there is the potential for an edit war. However talk pages are usually confined to discussing how to improve the article in question. And such speculations tend to need to be backed up with sources, if you can provide any directly comparing the capabilities of the two classes? Benea (talk) 18:14, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

It's best to continue that discussion on one of our talk pages, as the article talk page is for discussions relating directly to improvement of that article. In any case, in terms of sheer number of guns, the Iowas are outrageously better than the Yamatos, especially when it comes to their anti-aircraft batteries. Yamato has a total of 50 anti-aircraft guns, in dual or triple mounts, along with 12 6.1 inch guns. The Iowas, on the other hand, have a whopping 129 anti-aircraft guns, along with 20 5" DP guns. The Iowas AA battery is much stronger than the Yamatos. No, the Yamato was at best able to fire at 1.5 salvoes per minute (which is wholly possible, it is a simplification of saying 3 salvoes per 2 minutes). No, all four of the Iowa class battleships were in service by the time Yamato was sunk in 1945. Yes, the absolute range of Yamato's guns are longer than the Iowas, but that's not really relevant. The longest hits ever scored in the history of naval gunfire (Warspite at Calabria, and Scharnhorst on Glorious) occurred at ranges considerably shorter than either ships' maximum ranges (around 25k yards, which is nearly half of Yamato's max range). Had the ships ever come to blows, it is highly likely that the American ships would've come out on top. Regardless, it's idle speculation, which isn't relevant or needed for Wikipedia. Parsecboy (talk) 20:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

i have three sorces one of them says it would have been a draw but what about the planed super-yamato battleship class? but all in all it is a close compitition it could be a draw imean the ship does not mean it will win it is up to the crew who wins and who dies i mean yamato could fire at it longest range and given a hold of nothing but ammo for its x1 x2 & y1 y2 turrets its only a matter of time before the iwoa is hit --ANOMALY-117 (talk) 16:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC) you say the american ships are we say that i should count the other two yamato class battleships including the scrapped one bassed on what it was origganly planed to be or are we going uss iwoa vs yamato battleship?

The argument that Yamato had a slightly longer range is irrelevant, as I stated above. The longest hits ever scored in the history of naval combat were both essentially a tie at around 26k yards, which is well within the ranges of either ship. Given the superior American gunnery control and use of radar, the Iowas probably actually had the range advantage. As for firing at max range, you've also got to consider barrel fatigue, which would likely occur long before Yamato ran out of shells. If we're going to talk about planned ships, why not add in the planned Montana class? They actually started construction on them, as opposed to the Super Yamatos, that never left the drawing board. In any case, a lot of this is really irrelevant; a lot of things come down to sheer luck. Take the Bismarck v. Hood engagement; had Bis's shells not hit the magazine, the British ships might've been able to overwhelm the German ships. Or say if Prince of Wales guns hadn't malfunctioned. There's a lot of "what if?" that no one can ever answer definitively, because that's just not how the cards played out. Parsecboy (talk) 17:53, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
same with the uss arizona and many other ships on both sides of the war. ...i think it should be safe to say that given luck he yamato or the iwoa could win because they are more than a match for each other seeing as though the iwoa class was the response to the yamato class and the super yamatos to the iwoa class. so ..draw?--ANOMALY-117 (talk) 17:57, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
That's probably the best way to describe the likely result. Parsecboy (talk) 18:32, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

on a minor note the armor of the yamato makes up for its lack of speed and rate fire. --ANOMALY-117 (talk) 12:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC) but yes i must agree the issue will probaly never be solved i mean its all over the internet.ANOMALY-117 (talk) 12:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

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Saw your question on Parsecboy's talk page. Take a look at Wikipedia:Rollback feature. That ought to answer your questions. -MBK004 17:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

em what?[edit]

What vandalism? --Fredrick Night (talk) 21:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Priscilla Ahn you like deleted most of the page.ANOMALY-117 (talk) 21:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Which is a Copyvio of - as described in the edit summary - don't rollback the removal of copy violations or you could be blocked, copyvios should be removed on sight as per policy. --Fredrick Night (talk) 21:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

oh whoops i could hardly read your summuray or just now it took me five seconds to figure out copyvio is copy of wait ok now im confused what is copyvio?ANOMALY-117 (talk) 21:48, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

WP:COPYVIO copyvio is a Copyright Violation, when someone cuts and pastes copyright material off another site. Basically, if you could across it, you should remove it and note in the edit summary where it came from. --Fredrick Night (talk) 21:52, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

thank ya and sorry for the rollback. and i will do what i can about copyvio but question for having created your account like 20 minuets ago you know alot have you been here before?

I used to edit before from an IP address and thought I'd get an account. anyway, no problem with the revert, always best to be on the safe side. --Fredrick Night (talk) 22:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


Cheers for the user page revert, yours, Lord Foppington (talk) 22:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC) no problem

American Party[edit]

You commented in Talk:American Party, "sombody please fix this because i can't figure it out" -- what exactly were you trying to fix? Your first edit on that article looks like the right version to me -- so I've made that same edit. Is there something I'm missing there? Here's the history as near as I can tell:

  • 22:09, 8 April 2008 User:Florida Eagle puts in a whole bunch of detailed information.
  • 22:27, 8 April 2008 User:Florida Eagle removes that information. I don't know why, perhaps because the information didn't belong in a disambiguation page (the article The American Party probably covers it). They also didn't completely clean up after themselves -- messing up some of the formatting of the article and removing the "disambig" template.
  • 22:27, 8 April 2008 you revert both of User:Florida Eagle's edits.

Not sure what you were trying to do; what you did in that edit looks right to me, but evidently (from the next several edits you made) it didn't satisfy you. What were you trying to do? Were you trying to restore the information that User:Florida Eagle put in and then removed? -- Why Not A Duck 00:22, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

it looked wierd on my computer and i was trying to restore it but if it looks allright then im alright.ANOMALY-117 (talk) 17:33, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Last Bus to Woodstock[edit]

Dear User,

You recently sent me a message warning me against plagarising copywright material, in reference to my plot summary for the Colin Dexter novel Last Bus to Woodstock. I think you'll find that the article is entirely my own work, and any similarities between it and anything else are entirely coincidental. Furthermore, I do not appreciate being threatened or spoken down to, so I'd it if you modified your tone in future communications.


--6afraidof7 (talk) 14:40, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

He's actually after me (how he ended up here, I'm not sure), I've replied on his talkpage. --Fredrick Night (talk) 14:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

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Very annoying indeed, thank you and have a nice day :) AVandtalkcontribs 13:09, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I have updated the vandalism template accordingly, thanks and have a nice day :) AVandtalkcontribs 19:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


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