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KnightxxArrow (talk · contribs)[edit]

Well done, same as my point, see here User talk:Takeaway#KnightxxArrow (talk · contribs). ༆ (talk) 19:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

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There was a suggestion on the placeholder for the page on "Piima" that I might ought to contact you before creating it.

Noting your nationality, I suppose I can proceed auf Deutsch.

"Piima" und die Methode, damit man's macht wird in Sally Fallon's Nourishing Traditions erwähnt. Da sein Geschmack nicht darin erzählt wird, wollt ich ihn auf Wikipedia nachschauen. Da es eine Seite nicht gibt, wollt ich mindestens einen "Stub" schreiben und einfügen. Ich stell mir vor das geht, aber Fragen kostet nichts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koyae (talkcontribs) 00:59, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

AER's Subsidiarity movement[edit]

Dear Sir, the Subsidiarity movement is real, please check it at You removed also the link that proves it from the article Assembly of European Regions. I re-entered that paragraph and I would be most grateful if you will not remove it again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AERegions (talkcontribs) 15:21, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Need your kindness, from Siam Commercial Bank[edit]

Dear Sir, I'm Junphen from Thailand. I'm working at Siam Commercial Bank and I've assigned to edit or add content of the Bank in wikipedia. I've add more content base on your orginal version. So, please....need your kindness, please don't revert my content since it will effect my job. Besides, the content that I've added was agreed by our management. However, we'll try to update the new version soon . Hope you understand my intention & situation. Million thanks in advance for your kindness.

Last but not least, glad to hear that you're a german who provided lots of useful content for Thailand, you're so nice. :-)

Any questions or suggestion, please feel free to contact me any time at or

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Junphen (talkcontribs) 15:00, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


Andy, How do I report Plagarism? Found some content on Hamstring that seems to be copy pasted of a copyrighted website. Thanks shampoo (talk) 15:33, 25 November 2007 (UTC)


Will you please revert the article Vince Vaughn? I couldn't do rvv because of my security reason. Thank you. Oda Mari 17:18, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Other editor helped me. Thanks anyway.Oda Mari 17:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)


Hallo Andy. Du hast vorgestern in Lamphun Province dat GeoTag ergänzt. Kannst Du's bitte noch mal überprüfen? IMHO liegt es etwas zu weit in Kamphaeng Phet? ;-) --hdamm 13:26, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Stimmt auffällig, hatte mich wohl vertippt - es hätte 18° Nord heissen müssen, nicht 15. andy 13:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


You just reverted the page on Pokemon, I was trying to do the same, but I got confused, so decided to leave it to someone else, but then I got a mesage saying that I was a vandal, did you send the message, because I would like to say that I'm not one. If you didn't, thanks for reverting the page :-) Graham1991 20:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

No, that was WikiPediaAid (talk · contribs), and he already noticed his mistake and removed that message from your talk already. andy 20:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the antivandalism at the article Konstantin Tsiolkovsky. Commator 12:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Please warn vandals when reverting[edit]

I was on anti-vandalism patrol today and noticed you had reverted User Talk: but not posted any warnings. It makes it much easier to track, and escalate warning levels in case a block is necessary, therefore helping Admins, if you posted one of the standard vandalism warnings like {{Uw-vandalism2}}. Would you please? Thanks and happy wiking! Alexf(Talk/Contribs) 22:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I do like that normally, but when I reverted that one it was a quite active time for the vandals, and IIRC after I noticed the first vandalism from that IP I had to check some previous revisions as well, and also some new ones, soit might have slipped through to send a note to the talk page. andy 07:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm confused[edit]

You changed to here. What exactly do you mean "keep short". If you can, reply on my talk page. Thanks —— Eagle101Need help? 19:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

on this page on can find all pages which contain a weblink to As this weblink is one of the things which can be added with the editing toolbar, just like the example.jpg or example.ogg, checking that list helps to find accidental or real editing experiments with the editing toolbar, or by wrongly adding a weblink. Thus it IMHO makes sense to avoid that link, and if really needing an example weblink use the instead. Otherwise it will be difficult to find the pages which need to be checked for editing experiments. andy 19:31, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, that makes sense, I was more or less just curious ;) —— Eagle101Need help? 19:33, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Royal Gazette Referenzen[edit]

Hallo. Eigentlich wollte ich ja gerade fragen: "Sag mal, woher hast Du denn eigentlich die ganzen URLs der Referenzen zur Royal Gazette her? Bist Du da zufällig drüber gestolpert?" Aber ich glaube, ich habe die Antwort schon oben auf User:Ahoerstemeier/Amphoe references gefunden? Find ich ja toll. Ich habe mich schon immer gefragt, woher die ganzen Geschichts-Informationen der Amphoe-Seiten stammen. Bin dabei, die Links auch in die deutschen Seiten einzubauen. Hast Du ne Ahnung, ob es dort etwas ähnliches wie {{cite journal|...}} gibt? --hdamm 13:23, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Tja, da war mal wieder ein Troll der meinte bei einem Amphoe-Artikel den Stempel "Unreferenziert" draufzubappen, nur weil nicht explizit drinstand daß die wenigen nicht-trivialen Infos von aus übersetzt wurden. Aber da viel mir ein daß die Thais ja sehr Internet-freudig sind, und hab' mal gesucht ob es die Royal Gazette nicht vielleicht auch im Internet gibt - und Volltreffer. Auf User:Ahoerstemeier/Amphoe references sammle ich allerdings nur die Upgrades von King Amphoe nach Amphoe, die (King) Amphoe selbst werden jeweils einzeln eingerichtet, so daß es sich ich die Referenz dafür dann direkt nur in dem Amphoe-Artikel unterbringe. Und dabei habe ich auch schon so einige Ungenauigkeiten (es gibt drei Datums - das der Veröffentlichung, das wann es gültig wird, und das zu dem die Veröffentlichung eingereicht wurde, und IMHO ist das Gültigkeitsdatum das wichtigste) oder gar Fehler auf gefunden, und natürlich auch einige viele wo keine Geschichtsinfos rausrückt. Damit bin ich aber nun wohl wieder ein paar Monate beschäftigt... Übrigens - de:Vorlage:Cite journal existiert - hättest Du ohne Nachdenken alles im <ref>...</ref> kopiert hättest Du nicht fragen brauchen. Aber wer rechnet schon damit daß die Vorlage genauso heißt wie in en: :-) andy 13:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Danke für den Hinweis mit der Vorlage, der scheint tatsächlich zu funktionieren. Allerdings wird der Titel in Kursiv-Schrift angezeigt. Zusammen mit den Winz-Buchstaben läßt sich Thai-Schrift für mich kaum entziffern. Bleibe ich also lieber bei meiner Methode, die Parameter der Vorlage einzeln anzugeben, wie ich es hier z.B. bereits angefangen habe. --hdamm 15:15, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Max Labovitch[edit]

Thanks for your help on the Max Labovitch hockey player page I did not know how to get the links correct A question - I have some photos of this hockey player - they came directly from the gentleman Mr. Labovitch They are his personal photos with no copyright stamps on them These photos have been given over time by Mr. Labovitch and they have worked themselves on other websites I tried to post one of the photos and it was rejected by the system as appearing on another website. The photos are directly from Mr. Labovitch with his permission How can these photos be posted ? Would a letter directly from Mr. Labovitch be of help in any manner ?

thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Normanbubis (talkcontribs) 22:39, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

User talk:[edit]

I've finished faffing, so if you want to add a tag now, you won't get an edit conflict. The school is lucky you beat me to it - I'd just about decided on 6 months, but I'm happy you applied a milder block. --Dweller 14:34, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

User talk:[edit]

Earlier today, you told me not to add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. I have not added any such links. On the contrary, I have DELETED one such link today. -- 13:49, 25 September 2007 (UTC) (Geir Overskeid, Oslo, Norway.)

How to revert[edit]

Thanks for fixing the vandalism on the Judo page (someone deleted the USA belt system section). I just undid vandalism by the same user who also deleted the Brazilian belt system section.) Sometimes I see multiple vandalism - how do you revert back to an earlier version? So far I have just been using "undo" and then I see more vandalism and end up doing multiple "undo"s and sometimes get stuck with a situation where it is no longer possible to "undo". Thanks. --David Broadfoot 09:18, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Please Block...[edit]

Please Block and for much longer than just a week (indefinitely if possible). I am not very familiar with the wikipedia blocking protocol but I know he has been warned several times and some of his recent vandalism went unreverted. Thank you! --Stux 15:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Increased to one month, hope this is not a shared IP and someone complains. andy 16:13, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! Though I highly doubt it's a shared IP. I went through the IP's entire history and pretty much all of it sine May was vandalism. I'm afraid 1 month may not be enough, as he has soon come back to vandalize after the blocking period was over. Oh well. I'll try to keep an eye on him if I don't forget. We shall see. Again, thanks for the block! I'm looking into installing Twinkle for its autoreporting tools and stuff. --Stux 23:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for help and advice on the Nakhon Pa Mak pages[edit]

I just read your message, and I admit I don't have very much experience with Wikipedia, so I welcome all advice, suggestions and corrections. I'm not familiar with Wikipedia Commons, though. I will look into it right away. I'm actually a falang. I live in Arlington, Virginia and I'm from Jersey City, New Jersey. However, I have travelled to Nakhon Pa Mak about 6 times, spending a total of about 6 months living there on a farm. It was a wonderful experience. I learned to speak and read Thai while I was there, and I tried my hand at being a lunch lady in Sam Ruen, working on a rice farm in Ban Dongphayom, helped dig drainage ditches and taught a local cook some English. As far as your discussion of content, I agree and disagree a little. I think you're absolutely right, that the purpose of Wikipedia in general is to provide hard factual information. I'm hoping people like you will add more of that to my articles, because I really only have information about the cultural and linguistical matters related to these Thai villages. I hope other people eventually add historical data, anthropological data, more data about the wildlife, etc. On the other hand, I think that one main reason that a person might look at a wikipedia entry on a village in a far-away country is to learn as much as possible about the people and culture in that village. I think pictures have a way of giving people very quickly a taste of what the places are really like. If there's a better way to provide access to pictures, etc., from the article, then I guess that's the way to go. Is that how Wikipedia commons works? My e-mail is Thanks, Kevin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kborland (talkcontribs) 07:53, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Kleine Bitte[edit]

Hallo Ahoerstemeier, ich hoffe du kannst dich noch an mich erinnern, oder? ;-) Kleine Bitte: Könntest du meine Benutzerdiskussionsseite halbsperren, da die Anfragen einerseits eh auf wikipedia-de gehören, andererseits ich dort von einer IP aus dem Innenministerium beschimpft werde, die ich in der deutschen WP für Vandalismus gesperrt habe. Viele Grüße, --S[1] 09:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Oder sperr halt diese IP, ist ein statischer Neonazi. --S[1] 20:09, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Naja, sonderlich hochwertige Beitraege kamen von dieser IP wirklich nicht, aber um diese auf laengere Zeit zu sperren reicht das aber wohl nicht, bei regelmaessigem Vandalismus oder POV-Edits im Artikel-Namensraum wuerd mir das viel leichter fallen. Und selbst ob die zwei Male mit den kindischen Beleidigungen auf deiner Talk-Seite ausreichen fuer eine Halbsperrung der Seite - ich wuerd das lieber noch etwas abwarten bevor ich da was unternehme. Aber ich pack' mal deine Seite in meine Beobachtungsliste, dann ist der ganz schnell wieder revertiert falls er nochmal seine intellektuelle Ueberlegenheit zeigen will ;-) andy 20:49, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Danke für deine Mühe --S[1] 08:01, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help[edit]

Thanks for putting the redirect in for the Tha Luang River. As you see, I've figured out how to add references now, but I'm still quite the novice. I've also figured out how to put in geographical coordinates and some other gadgets now too. Bear with me and I'll try to get all of my geographical stubs up to par with the rest of the Wikipedia as quickly as possible. I've already ordered additional materials from Thailand for sources (books, maps, park & temple brochures, etc.). If I am correct, the Tha Luang was the last of the missing Nan tributaries for Phitsanulok. I think there still might be a few sub-tributaries we're missing, but they are mostly confined to the national parks once you get into the mountains (i.e. not relevant to agriculture or industry in Phitsanulok). I'll work on them after I get to the parks and mountains. I'm not aware of any tributaries of the Yom that run through Phitsanulok but I'll be working on that in the days to come as well. Thanks again for your help. P.S. sorry about the park deletion. It appears you are correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kborland (talkcontribs) 10:35, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Commons[edit]

I'm converting the images to Wikipedia Commons as you suggested. I've also found an infobox that works pretty well for the muban, as not to abuse the amphoe box. Check out Ban Grong Greng and let me know if you think it's appropriate (and if it's an appropriate link to Wikipedia Commons). I also found a waterfall infobox template and updated all the waterfalls in Thailand (there are only 4 so far) and a river template. Filen dank (I speak some German but I have no clue when it comes to spelling, trying to say thanks much) for the suggestions and help. We'll have Thailand well documented on Wikipedia in no time, albiet one village/temple/river/waterfall at a time.Kevin Borland, Esq. 22:58, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Chubs and Disambiguation[edit]

Greetings. Recently, on Tue 16 Oct, I constructed a disambiguation page for the various fish known as chubs. After having done so, I began to contemplate whether that page and the current Chub page might be better named. I posted a discussion on the Chub page but it's not yet received any comment. I noticed from the article's revision history that you had made one or more contributions to the page. Consequently, I thought I might profit from your advice at Talk:Chub#Page title if you have a moment or two to spare. Thanks. — Dave (Talk | contribs) 03:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Protection for User talk:Pak21[edit]

Hiya. As you just protected User:Pak21, could I ask you to do the same to User talk:Pak21 as it looks like the vandals are starting there as well. Thanks --Pak21 16:21, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

It's been done. Thanks anyway --Pak21 17:34, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Americium - missing Periodic Table picture[edit]

Hello. as I understand, you are the one who created the pictures of the elements headers, so... the element Americium lacks its Periodic Table picture. I don't know if it is due to some bug or other problem or if that picture exist at all. have you already created a picture for Americium and still have it or shall I create one based on the same design? --Yar2 11:08, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually that periodic table image is existing, see Image:Am-TableImage.png, it's just the scaled down picture for the infobox which does not load. Apparently the image server has problems, and it will show up again sometime - I don't know if there is any magic thing to do to force the server to recreate that thumbnail. andy 12:11, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Its very weird, since it is the only element that lacks the image. maybe someone ought to reboot\boot that server (where ever it is). --Yar2 18:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Found it on the MediaWiki documentation - I had to open the URL, which forces the server to recreate the thumbnails. Now it shows the thumbnail again... andy 21:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't think I fully understand what you did, but it doesn't really matter because you've fixed the problem. Hurrah, greetings & salutations to you. --Yar2 22:26, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Helfen - Karte[edit]

Hallo. Hilf mir bitte. Lies bitte Link: [[1]]

Sehr wichtig. Danke. User:Szajci aus ungarische Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:39, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


Könntest du bitte User:Srbauer in die engl. Sprache übersetzen? Danke --ST 23:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Barnstar of Reversion2.png The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thank you for reverting the vandalism to my user page and for the countless other acts of anti-vandal edits. Rgoodermote  18:06, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Same here, thanks! †Bloodpack† 06:22, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

vandalism question[edit]

if someone deletes their warnings on their talk page, am i suppose to keep reverting it, and is that in it self vandalism? Ctjf83 17:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

never mind, i got help, thanks though! Ctjf83 18:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Classification of admins[edit]

Hi Ahoerstemeier. Please consider adding your admin username to the growing list at Classification of admins. Best! -- Jreferee t/c 22:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


Please help with references for a classical Thai music-related article listed for deletion. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Korphai. `'Míkka>t 16:59, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Vandalism Templates[edit]

I don't know if you've seen this page: Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace/Multi-level templates. If you haven't, I recommend you check it out. Adding these warnings is a useful way of starting off assuming good faith, and then working your way up to final warnings, and then notifying the administrators of persistant vandalism at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism. StephenBuxton (talk) 17:56, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

my school![edit]

actually i was being rather serious on what i posted about my teachers,and feel insulted that you think i am not serious about it! and! i did not add any famous alumni thanks very much. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:20, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Rama II bookcover.jpg)[edit]

Nuvola apps important blue.svg Thanks for uploading Image:Rama II bookcover.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot (talk) 20:51, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


Hey. It looks like this guy needs a ban. We've both caught him on a couple of offenses. (mastrchf91) 15:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Blocked already... andy (talk) 15:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Thai constituencies[edit]

Dear Ahoerstemeier, can you direct me to a map of the new electoral districts for Thailand? (I mean the individual-election districts, not the eight proportional districts). Alternatively, can you direct me to a list showing which amphoe within each changwat constitute each electoral district? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 04:27, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

OK I have now found the list, and I have used your excellent amphoe maps to locate which amphoe are in which constituencies, so thanks for your work on those maps. I have noted two apparent errors, at Ubon Ratchatani and - somewhere else I forget. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 05:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

The list of constutuencies broken down by amphoe is here:

The other error is at Chonburi

Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 07:23, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

You could do one thing for me. In Nonthaburi, the amphoe Meuang Nonthaburi is divided between the two constituencies. Could you locate a map of the province showing the constituencies boundaries at the ECT website ( The website is impossible for non-Thai-readers to navigate. The map is probably at the Nonthaburi provincial election commission, which links from the ECT website somewhere. Alternatively, if you have a map of the amphoe showing the tambon boundaries, could you tell me how the amphoe is divided between the two constituencies? Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 09:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

There were four or five provinces in which amphoe were split between constituencies, but Nonthaburi is the only one I haven't been able to find a map for. Were you unable to find a map at Possibly with the information you have given me I can find one. Thanks. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 07:52, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I have now located a map of Nonthaburi showing the amphoe divided into tambons:

Thank you Nonthaburi Police. Using the information you provided, my understanding is that the two tambons in the north-west of the amphoe Meuang (the one labelled "10" and the one to the right of it, on the west bank of the river), are in Constituency 2, and the rest of the amphoe is in Constituency 1. If you can confirm this understanding, then I can proceed. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 10:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. And here we go: Many happy hours of cartography ahead. Intelligent Mr Toad (talk) 12:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)


why did you change what i did on MY user talk page changing it from .Com to .Org? i wasent sending anyone to a website i was showing an example of something if i wanted whoever to go to a website i would link it properly. ~ Yuki 09:35 Jan.02.08 (UTC)

WikiProject Thailand[edit]

Hi. I'm thinking about setting up a Wikipedia:WikiProject Thailand for more specific coordination of Thai articles. As you've done a tremendous amount of work on Thailand would you be interested? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 13:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Count me in. I haven't set it up myself due to the experiences with the two project on Thai provinces and districts, which did not attract much coordination - with just one or two Wikipedians active in those projects the coordination was done via direct talk instead. But maybe those projects were already too special, and a country-wide project would get more participants. At least we should get some more participation in the Portal:Thailand, like suggestions for featured articles. andy (talk) 17:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Its located here Wikipedia:WikiProject Southeast Asia/Thailand work group. Hopefully it will develop into a seperate group if it gains enough support. Also are you still interested in helping develop Cambodian districts and maps - as we have all these wonderful amphoe articles for Thailand and only one or two maps for Cambodian ones!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 14:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I've begun working on the cambodian districts again. You don't have to contribute, but I would be deeply grateful if you could create the district maps. Only Bantay Meanchey has been done so far. I've also begun creating pages for the communes but it is the district maps I think are of prime importance ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ Talk? 18:56, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Creating these maps take quite some time, and I have the problem of finding reliable sources - as you can see at User talk:Paxse#Oddar Meanchey map I ran into problems trying to create the map for the second province, which is almost finished. And I am still quite busy with the Thai districts, as Thailand is my main topic of interest. Since I found an online source with all the official announcements on creation or modifications of the districts (and the other administrative entities) I can at least give the Amphoe articles a decent history section. They are still quite incomplete, but I really don't like stub articles which have nothing but the evident things. IMHO it's better to do quality then quantity... andy (talk) 20:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Why did you do that?[edit]

Why did you redirect User:Carnildo/sandbox4 to Wikipedia:Sandbox? --Carnildo (talk) 22:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I was cleaning up the pages using Example.jpg, so new pages containing that image due to editing experiments, accidental click on the toolbar button or vandalism can still be found. I thought that sandbox is just one of the many orphan unused sandboxes, because it did not contain anything which could not be done for a quick test on the "official" sandbox. You can of course continue to edit it, but it'd be nice not to use example.jpg (or any other things done by the editing toolbar). andy (talk) 22:23, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
I use it for testing my bots, because I can't trust anything in the official sandbox to stick around long enough for me to run tests. --Carnildo (talk) 02:21, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you ...[edit]

for clearing up the vandalism on my talk page. Spartaz Humbug! 19:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)


Have you blocked this user for vandalism, as it is not showing on their talk page? Previous ban was for a lot longer than one day. Mjroots (talk) 16:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, there was one for one month in November, but that of course expired now. I usually don't bother to add the block notification on the user talks, there's too much vandalism to fix to have time to notify the blocked vandals, they will notice it anyway. andy (talk) 16:55, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Germany Invitation[edit]

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Hello, Ahoerstemeier! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be.

--Zeitgespenst (talk) 12:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Example.jpg cleanup[edit]

Hello, Ahoerstemeier. About your recent edits to User:Hersfold/Adopt - Please use a little more discretion when editing other people's user pages. I understand what you are trying to do by removing the links to those files, however in this case, they were placed there deliberately and for a reason. I use those pages to coordinate work with my adoptees, and anything I put on that page is there for demonstrative purposes. By changing those to something that doesn't exist or doesn't make sense with what I'm telling them (File:Example.mp3, for example), the link becomes confusing or misleading. I may not have contacted you, except that the lesson page you edited (User:Hersfold/Adopt/Wikimarkup) has a banner specifically asking anyone who wants to make a change to that page to contact me about it to avoid this sort of confusion. Now it has two, to avoid a recurrence of this. I noticed above that other people have contacted you for similar problems - I would suggest that in the future you talk to user about this on their talk pages rather than making the changes yourself. Thanks for your time, and happy editing as always. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:50, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

I always try not to break anything when I exchange those links, but there should be as few pages using the links added by the editing toolbar as possible. If there are more than let's say ten, it will get impossible to find the real editing experiments, so PLEASE exchange the example.ogg with a different file, or it will get impossible to find those editing experiments. There is really no need to use exactly that file, for example example.png works 100% the same as example.jpg, only that it makes the cleanup possible if every legitimate use of an example image uses the PNG instead of the JPG. andy (talk) 18:14, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Amphoe Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya[edit]

Hi Andy. Over a year ago, you added a potentially useful tambon list to Amphoe Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya, but you left it commented out. Did you intend to leave it that way, or did you just not get around to making it visible? I would like to see that list in the article so, if it's OK with you, I would like to make it visible. I could format it as a table if you like. --Heron (talk) 21:22, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

It'd be a waste of time if you that manually. In the time since I added the commented table I have written a small program which get the population numbers from DOPA and put it into the table format like you can see for example in Amphoe Mueang Surat Thani - except the village numbers. I just haven't yet systematically added it to all the Amphoe articles where it is missing, or which have a table with only the names. andy (talk) 22:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

What you're doing sounds great. If you need any help, give me a shout. --Heron (talk) 16:49, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Space missions WikiProject[edit]

Hi, I noticed that you are a member of the Space missions WikiProject. A couple of weeks ago, I proposed that the Space missions and Space travellers projects, which both appear to be inactive be merged into the Human Spaceflight project. Whilst this is being done, the capitalisation of the Human spaceflight project's title would also be corrected (ie. Human SpaceflightHuman spaceflight). The projects are all doing the same/very similar things, and in my opinion, a single, larger, project would be more effective than three smaller, and somewhat inactive projects.. In light of very little response to messages on the project talk pages, I am now sending this message to all members of all three projects, inviting them to discuss the proposal on the Human Spaceflight project's talk page. I would appreciate your opinion on this. Thanks. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 21:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Changwat Phra Nakhon Nuea, Klang and Tai?[edit]

Sorry I didn't bother to login in recent weeks (but still monitor the Thailand related changes from time to time) so I missed your message. For the Royal Gazette this it mentioned splitting area of responsibility for the police department. This is not related to administration by Ministry of Interior. The changwat mentioned in [2] is for education district, again unrelate to administration. The vcharkarn people there just quoted the history of Ministry of Education to show the old spelling of amphoe names, and had nothing to do with the amphoe and changwat discussion there. -- Lerdsuwa (talk) 10:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Images on Commons[edit]

Hello! Would you be so kind to check this problem on Commons? Thank you! PatríciaR msg 15:04, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Elections in progress[edit]

Hello Ahoerstemeier, how are you? I'm Sarvaturi, I work on the Sicilian Wikipedia (scn.wikipedia, where I'm a bureaucrat and an administrator) and I work on the Sicilian Wiktionary (scn.wiktionary, where I'm a bureaucrat and an administrator and where you helped me to install the Spambot) and please I would need your help: on the Corsican wiktionary (where you contributed various times) there are some elections in progress to elect a second administrator (me), and please I would like you to vote (for or against):

As information: The Italian administrator Ale Mister who works in the Corsican wikipedia has voted "yes" for me. Other information: I have more than 112 edits in this little Corsican wiktionary.

Thanks in advance

Best regards

--Sarvaturi (talk) 23:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC) :-)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my userpage. Lordjeff06 (talk) 17:57, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

All seals deleted[edit]

I just noticed that all seals were deleted. Why o why is Wikipedia destroying itself? Do you still have copies of the seals? Waerth (talk) 11:02, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Seems like the copyright paranoia strikes again. I had been to busy to take care it before, but it seems it's not sure whether these seals are copyright-free as government symbols, or covered by the Thai copyright act because they are government works. That'd not only apply to the province seals, also the towns and TAO have similar symbols, so we really need a final word on how to treat these. I recall on the German wikipedia it was an open issue for more than a year how to treat the coat of arms of towns, and I really don't enjoy such legal mumble-jumble. Of course I still have them all on my harddisc, but this could also be a good time to create them as decent vectorized SVGs in better resolution, I tried but didn't yet finish to create a single such SVG. andy (talk) 12:17, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
Good to hear you still have the copies. Yes commons is an overly paranoid place trying to be the bravest in the class. Unfortunately. Waerth (talk) 06:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry for jutting in, but I just happened to stumble across this discussion. Actually, it seems that those seals which were deleted were so because the PD tag they were tagged with was deprecated. All the seal images still on commons at the time were older than 50 years and public domain by law, though. Ironically, those which are under fair use are still here on Wikipedia. --Paul_012 (talk) 19:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for your contributions in districts of Bangkok in Could you help me correct copyedits in Phong Nha-Ke Bang (in ? Thank you. Genghiskhanviet (talk) 09:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Argentine locator map[edit]

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Hi "Amphoe" "maestro". I see you created the map on the right which I believe is very useful. We'd like to use it for Template:Location map Argentina to see where the towns ar elocated in the provinces but unfortunately your map doesn't seem to work -it places most towns out in the sea. Could you try to find the pin points of your map and try to sort out the template so it works? This is important as it will affect several thousands articles eventually. Cheers ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Comparing it with the map currently used in the template, it seems the problem is that both maps use different projections. IIRC I had it set to the good old Mercator, the one in the template looks like it has the plain mapping of x=longitude, y=latitude (don't know what is the name of this trivial projection). As Argentina is so long and goes into extreme south, the projection becomes an important issue. I don't know how much mathematics can be done with templates, maybe it is possible to convert the coordinates into Mercator within the template, so it is enough to put the latitude and longitude into the template. andy (talk) 13:21, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Message on Commons[edit]

Hello! I left you a message on Commons. Thanks, PatríciaR msg 17:19, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

I've noticed you've been quite a busy fellow reverting vandalism. I appreciate the work you've done. Peter Deer (talk) 17:50, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Vielen Dank[edit]

Hallo, nochmal vielen herzlichen Dank fuer die Arbeit und Muehe in den vandalierten km.Projekten! LG. --birdy (:> )=| 15:48, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of User talk:Alopi[edit]

Sorry about the automatic spam warning, I didn't realise Twinkle would do that. The spam was added by Alopi, replacing your warning. — FIRE!in a crowded theatre... 21:14, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

And now it has been replaced with the spam3 warning, though I doubt that account will ever get used again anyway. andy (talk) 21:16, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


Hallo. Da alles nun recht kurzfristig zu Stande kam, schreibe ich dich hier an. Würde mich freuen wenn du beim Treffen an kommendem Donnerstag (27.3) reinschaust. Gruß --Euku 10:38, 24 March 2008 (UTC) (ex Spongo)

Image:Fürth_in_Germany.png listed for deletion[edit]

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Please warn[edit]

Please warn user: to stop vandalzing talk pages.Mooncrest (talk) 20:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Thai WP Forum[edit]

Hello Andy, I just started a forum for Thai Wikipedia users at Although it was all in Thai language, you're always welcome. Regards. --Manop - TH (talk) 22:35, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Note that if you want to chat please go to #wikipedia-th. Although there is only me and a few people online. --Passawuth (talk) 11:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Images listed for deletion[edit]

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WikiProject Christianity[edit]

Hello Ahoerstemeier!

You are cordially invited to participate in WikiProject Christianity

The goal of WikiProject Christianity is to improve the quality and quantity of information about Christianity available on Wikipedia. WP:X as a group does not prefer any particular tradition or denominination of Christianity, but prefers that all Christian traditions are fairly and accurately represented.

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You are receiving this invitation because you are a member of one of the related Christianity Projects and I thought that you might be interested in this project also - Tinucherian (talk) 06:48, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

New Project[edit]

Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 06:08, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


I am trying to find a wikipedia administrator who would readily do an interview for a research project I am conducting from the perspective of a wikipedia insider. If you'd like to do this, please email me at goat77 (AT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goat77 (talkcontribs) 18:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Ko Tao Page[edit]


May i ask why you call the official Koh Tao community website suspicious?

And may i ask why you insist to delete the link to this very informative charity website with an unbelievable consistence while you have a link running to KohTaoDoc, an organization which hasn't left many good feelings here on the island when it went down


The Koh Tao Community Website is updated on regularly bases, is growing by the day and is very much alive. Please read at least some of the content and you might want to add the link back in yourself. Me, and many readers would appreciate this very much.

Talking about content:

I would also like to ask for permission to edit this VERY OLD and UNREAL text about our beautiful and meanwhile DEVELOPED island. Our roads are NOT 95% dirt roads! and the touristic development has reached the state of Samui and Phangan a long time ago.

We do NOT need 4 hours from Samui to Tao, since 2004, 1 and 1/2 will do just fine. Same goes from Chumphon, while i must say, that coming from Suratthani in 4 hours to Koh Tao... is not very realistic! That would be more like ten to twelve hours. (You should have a look at the KTc website: Ferry Boat Time Table)

Thank you for your time.

Kind regards George (samiotis) KTc Admin —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samiotis (talkcontribs) 05:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I removed it because it looks to me just like the many websites containing mostly advertisements for hotels and other stuff on touristic areas. Wikipedia is not a web directory, so only high quality websites with additional infos or official websites are legitimate to be added. However, you are of course free to correct mistakes or outdated information in the article, but be aware that the article is not intended to become a travel guide, that one would belong at e.g. Wikitravel. andy (talk) 11:17, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Michael H. Nelson[edit]

Halle Andy, ich hoffe, alles ist bestens... Schau mal bitte auf der deutschen Löschdiskussion vorbei und sag deine Meinung. Nelson arbeitet ja über dein Thema subnationale Entitäten. Bis denne. --media_lib (talk) 15:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Duplicate Image:Mh grindelwald im winter pre.jpg[edit]

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Thai Wikipedia usurpation request[edit]

As the section header suggests, what is the procedure for requesting an SUL usurp on the Thai wikipedia? I am currently trying to go through the accounts with the username Woody for SUL purposes. The th:User:Woody has no edits since registration at "07:02, 11 April 2007." Is it possible to get it usurped? Thanks and regards. Woody (talk) 16:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Any comments on this? Thanks, regards. Woody (talk) 17:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh sorry, this one slipped through. I don't know if and what rules the Thai wikipedia has made for these cases, as I don't speak much of the language yet. You best ask at the Embassy, there you'll find someone speaking English and having more knowledge on the local rules to assist you. andy (talk) 21:10, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks. Woody (talk) 19:02, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Thai provinceal seals[edit]

Hi. I filed an undeletion request on Commons for the seals, but still need source info for the images. Could you please help by providing the info here? --Paul_012 (talk) 14:20, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Image:De unna coat.png listed for deletion[edit]

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Hallo. Wir planen in Aachen ein Treffen. Vier Leute sind wir schon - nach nicht einmal 24h. Schau da mal rein. Gruß --Euku 08:56, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Removal of Thai, again[edit]

See [3]. Badagnani (talk) 03:30, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


Nothing, I think it is not needed to add thai script into Preah Vihear Temple. If needed, Why? If add thai scripts, why you don't add other languages scripts? --Kiensvay (talk) 11:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

I think it is not reasonable that Thai script is needed because Thailand claims ownership. Thai spelling doesn't make me hurt , but I think it is really not necessary on Preah Vihear Temple. (It is my opinion). Thanks. --Kiensvay (talk) 09:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


[4] Badagnani (talk) 06:15, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


May I ask why you edited my talk archive? KV5Squawk boxFight on! 21:28, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

I only made a link to [[Insert text]] inactive, so the Special:WhatLinksHere/Insert_text stays short and can be used to find and clean up editing experiments. andy (talk)


Would just like to pop by and let you know of my gratitude for the revert you made to my userpage earlier today. Cheers! MattieTK 22:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


Siehe [5] und de:Wikipedia:Weiternutzung/Mä -- (talk) 10:40, 21 July 2008 (UTC) de:Benutzer:Martina Nolte


Danke, ich hab'es korrigiert, bei beide thaiische begriffe miteinander zu benutzen - "amphoe/thesaban", und in der texten klargemacht dass diese gebiete nicht ganz dasselbe sind, wie unsere Norwegische "kommuner". Habe ich es gerecht verstanden das die grenzen der Amphoe und der Thesaban die selben sind? Grüssen, Bjoertvedt. 3.August, 23:38 CET

Talk Page Archives[edit]

I am not sure I understand why you are making changes to user pages and talk archives. Those should not be edited without very good reason which was not cited. |► ϋrbanяenewaℓTALK ◄| 16:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I did it to clean up the list of pages linking to and similar, to make them again usable to find editing experiments done with the editing toolbar. There is no need to keep that link, it was either added by accident anyway (just like those I want to find and clean up), or the link to is absolutely equivalent as an example link. andy (talk) 20:30, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

My site has been listed as thailanddaddy[edit]

Dear Andy,

I am in processing in setting a travel guide relating to Thailand as sent in earlier messages. I thought I'll link a few articles from wiki to my site. I have read the spam linking policy on wiki. I agree with the policy as stated but you are incorrect in some way.

Wiki states you may link external links to articles as long as they are useful and related to the source.

I think you should read the following links:

I thought I'll link this user guide site as it would be good information source for wiki readers and visitors to Thailand.

As wiki administrators say along with the policy, linking to wiki articles is spamming. I would like my site to be removed from the spam list as it has been listed.

I personally think that is unfair having it in the spam list when it is not. In return if you think so, I'll close my wiki account and stay away from it wiki as whole.

I have enjoyed using wiki but it is just upsetting in return how wiki admin and users have responded to me.

So please can you remove my site from wiki and also send me instructions in how to close my account.

In wait to your response, I will also contact wiki head office and will take things further at a later date if we cannot resolve the issues.

I have sent this message to user MER-C as well if you want to discuss things with that user relating to this issue.

Issues been sorted, Andy thanks

Chiang Muan[edit]

Frage an den Thailand-Verwaltungsexperten: In Amphoe Chiang Muan wird von einer Grenze mit Lampang gesprochen. Die ist aber weder auf der Karte noch in der Thai-Version des Artikels zu sehen. In de: hab ich Lampang erstmal außen vor gelassen, aber vielleicht weißt du mehr ... --media_lib (talk) 15:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Hast recht, das scheint schon bei der ersten Version schiefgegangen zu sein, und hat bis jetzt keiner bemerkt. Wobei es in manchen Ecken Thailands widersprüchliche Karten der Grenzen gibt, aber für diese scheint alles eindeutig zu sein. andy (talk) 17:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


Could you explain the reasoning behind this? I'm not angry or upset, just confused at the replacement of one RFC 2606 link with another. (talk) 10:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Because pages with are usually created by accidentally clicking on the "insert link" button of the editing toolbar. But to find the pages where this happened the pages which use an example weblink intentionally must be short, and as is the same as except the toolbar I take the liberty to exchange them to be able to find and clean up editing experiments. andy (talk) 11:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Hmm. I suppose that makes sense. In future, I shall use .org for any deliberate examples. Thanks, (talk) 11:45, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Bangkok museums[edit]

Hi. Nice to see you are still editing Thai articles. I;m afriad I don't have as much time to allocate to Thailand as I'd wish to. I;ve redirected Bangkokian museum now seems as they are on the same site. I sure could use your help in expanding them though. Could you expand Benchamabophit National Museum ? The Bald One White cat 16:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

No, I already tried my best to expand those museum articles where I can add something to destub them, but I have only visited few museum in Bangkok so far. So while I know Wat Benchamabophit, I don't know the museum - maybe it's just a small building within the temple complex not worth a separate article? Have seen my comment on Talk:Bangkok Noi Museum? andy (talk) 16:24, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes I think the canal museums are a series of museums and should be in one article. Perhaps you could merge them When I was in Bangkok I visited the Gems and Rare Stone museums, I remember speaking to the owner of the Gems museum, he was a really nice guy in his late 60s, although I can't think of anything encyclopedic to say about them! There should be some half decent web sources on most of them. I have redirected many, perhaps I'll redirect the Wat museum too The Bald One White cat 16:35, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

I think I'll propose Bangkok-stub and Thailand-struct-stub at WP:Stub proposals. If you support please chip in. I know there is Bangkok-geo-stub but perhaps somehow we could upmerge templates The Bald One White cat 16:42, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

See Talk:Bang Kapi. As WikiProject Thai districts should be a subproject of the main Thailand project I was wondering if you would support merging the Thai districts banner with the main Thailand banner and adding the parameter district=yes to evaluate the districts and this article supported by the Thai districts group within it? The Bald One White cat 17:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Barford & Wramplingham web links[edit]

Hi there,

I wonder if you'd be kind enough to allow my amendments to the Wiki entries for my own local community to remain please?

The Village Hall website serves these two villages in the UK and we are trying to encourage as many people as possible to make use of the new site and the Village Hall facilities.

It has been quite frustrating to find this link removed twice this evening, by someone who apparently does not even live in this country, much less the local area.

The website is practically complete and has been radically updated by our webmaster during this evening alone. Please therefore stop reverting the link.


Goldsmith285 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldsmith285 (talkcontribs) 21:33, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Amphoe Mueang Nakhon Ratchasima[edit]

Hallo. Du findest das bestimmt schneller als ich: vergleiche doch mal bitte die Angaben zu den Tambon und Tao einmal in Amphoe Mueang Nakhon Ratchasima und in th:อำเภอเมืองนครราชสีมา. Wer hat denn nun recht? Oder habe ich da etwas missverstanden? --hdamm (talk) 14:51, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Ich muss erst noch ein paar von den Sitzungsprotokollen durcharbeiten, dann habe ich wieder die aktuelle Liste von Thesaban und TAO und kann dann die Tabellen hier vergleichen. Dieses Amphoe steht 'eh auf meiner ToDo-Liste, denn es sollten ja durchaus die Tambon aufgelistet werden und nicht nur die Thesaban/TAO, wie es jetzt ja wohl gemacht wird. Also irgendwie die zwei Abschnitte so wie in der Thai-WP. andy (talk) 16:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

Re:Lao administrative structure[edit]

Sawasdee Krab! Andy. I'm Nayok. I'm Thai not Lao, but I interesting about Laos. I can't add more background information because I have little knowledge about this district. I'm sorry. But I can read Lao language. I can help you for transcibe Lao and Thai alphabet to English alphabet. Nayok talk 16:46, 4 September 2008 (UTC).

Thaischrift auch in :en:?[edit]

Hallo. Ich weiß nicht, wie es sich hier in der englischen Wikipedia verhält, aber sollten die Lemmas von Artikeln über Thailand hier nicht eigentlich auch dem RTGS genügen? Sieh doch mal zum Beispiel mein Edit hier und auch dieser hier. Wie wird das hier gehandhabt? Gewähren lassen? --hdamm (talk) 14:22, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Surat Thani[edit]

Hallo, wollte mich nur kurz für das Foto vom Stadion in Surat und dem Artikel dazu bedanken. Schönes WOE. Gruß, --Lokomotive74 (talk) 08:31, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Das Foto hatte ich schon im April gemacht, nur bisher noch nicht hochgeladen - aber da ich jetzt den Artikel ueber den Club auch auf Deutsch gesehen hatte war das dann der Anlass es dann doch endlich mal nachzutragen. Aber da sist auch leider das einzige Fotos eines Fussballstadions in Thailand welches ich bislang beisteuern kann. andy (talk) 20:03, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
Macht nichts. Ich hoffe ich kann einige Bilder in ca. 3 Wochen besteuern, wenn ich aus Thailand zurück bin. :-) --Lokomotive74 (talk) 23:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for reverting vandalism to my user page, Ahoerstemeier. Best regards, Húsönd 22:25, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Barford, Wramplingham etc. again[edit]

Hello again,

I've referred the Barford and Wramplingham issue for a third opinion, as you clearly want to stop me adding my own village hall website to my own community.

I find your objections to the actual website inexplicable, as the village hall is the hub of so many British rural commununities.

The website was designed and authorised by people who help run the village hall and is therefore in my view, a valid contrubution to such an entry.

If your objection is based on your understanding of English villages' municipal affairs, then you should be aware that these are run by parish, district and then county councils. Ironically, linking those to the village Wiki entry would be a little odd, as their role is administrative. It is, however, quite natural to include a village hall link in such a page as village halls play a central role in keeping small communities together, preserving their traditions and laying on local events.

I hope you appreciate these facts. As a gesture of goodwill, I have edited the English mistakes out of your personal homepage on here. I trust you may find the input useful.


Goldsmith285 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldsmith285 (talkcontribs) 23:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

I simply reverted them because you linked to, and not the website you intended. andy (talk) 11:13, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

i am off now[edit]

no need to watch for new users TopoCode-blockedbyAhoerstemeier-6 (talk) 10:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Tobias, what are you trying to proof? That it's impossible to block you from editing here? That you can waste the time of admins effectively? That you can get your naming scheme enforced by whatever means? I see these options
  1. You leave Wikipedia alone and, if you want to continue to share your knowledge choose to work on any of the forks like CitizenPedia.
  2. Proof that TopoCode is not Tobias Conradi - I am very sure now that you are the same person
  3. Continue to sneak in with new accounts, get blocked, or even start to vandalize because getting tired of this routine
  4. Go the official way to be allowed to edit again, under probation of ArbCom or whatever the official way is (I have no idea, it's not something I like to waste my time with). But the longer you continue with 3 the more difficult it will be to be allowed to come back.
As I wrote in the sockpuppet report - I consider your contributions to be helpful, like I have no problems with a unified naming scheme (quite the contrary), and I know there's a lot of mess of mixing up towns with districts which needs to be cleaned up, and so on. A dedicated editor is always welcome. It wasn't me you had problems with in the past, actually I was quite surprised when I noticed that you got banned. As I am working on the Thai subdivisions, I even recall your requests on clarifications, which were quite helpful. The only thing I don't like on your contributions is the fact that you create work for the Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links instead of trying to fix the links yourself. andy (talk) 11:12, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

If you want to talk with User:Tobias Conradi you should maybe use his talk. If you want my answer for Nr2 - How can anyone prof in either direction? Even the checkUser I asked for wouldnt reveal sufficient information. If you want my answer for Nr4 - you are not interested in wasting time - me neither. Admins do not adhere to written rules so why bother trying to get treated by written rules. EdJohnston proofed it perfectly. As for someone can waste admins time effectly - the admins are wasting it. Why block TopoCode in the first place? Why report TopoCode as being a sock puppet of Tobias Conradi? Why make personal attack on him and Tobias Conradi within that report (not fixing any links). I gave you 50 links or so where I fixed links. And per WP:OWN everybody can fix links. Additionally what you want to get rid of was once suggested as policy "Always leave something undone". There are people good at fixing dablinks and there are others good at detecting clashes. And whenever I come across non standard naming scheme links I fix them. Additionally creating the dab pages in the first place reduces the chance of more people creating false links. As I think I have seen User:Tobias Conradi pointing out: "This is a collaborative project." TopoCode-blockedbyAhoerstemeier-7 (talk) 09:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

If you are not Tobias, then I would be the first to apologize. But - wouldn't it be strange to have a new user continuing the same work as was done by Tobias without any doing minor edits first to get used to this place, but clearly not being new but knowing many of the policy pages already which even admins may not know. And then you even half-admitted that you are using the same ISP and live in the city as Tobias. Even among the 3 million there, how big is the chance that there are two people with the same interest editing in a foreign language Wikipedia? Even for 6 billion potential editors the two looked too similar to overlook the fact and not report my suspicion, for 3 million I am almost sure and apparently EdJohnson as well. So please, have the balls to admit the truth, apologize for the mistakes you have done with your old account and promise to avoid them in future. I will not stand in your way to have a return, that dab link issue is just what annoys me in my personal way of being a perfectionist. I doubt that old policy is still valid - at that time Wikipedia had just few editors and "leaving something undone" was a way to attract new editors. andy (talk) 11:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Laos districts[edit]

TopoCode-blockedbyAhoerstemeier-7 (talk) 08:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

List of search engines[edit]

Hallo, Ahoerstemeier. In dem Artikel List of search engines ist ein Link zu einem deutschsprachigen Artikel der nicht existiert. Kannst du ihn weg machen? Ich würde es selber, aber der Artikel ist gesperrt. Gruß, BobaCartman 14:26, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Thesaban Stubs[edit]

Oops! I got caught. LOL Andy, I can say I'm your secret admirer. I even have the link to your blog from mine. Honestly, I have no source about Thesaban at all besides from your blog. I have no idea how you find such a useful source like that. Bet you have Thai keyboard at home. I'll try to improve my next articles as much as I can. Xpanderz (talk) 20:46, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


Please take a look. Best --Des Kaisers Haufen (talk) 08:33, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


You edited (removed)my contribution and said: "smells like spam"

What is your definition of spam? I think spam is sending bulk messages to people that did not ask for it and with the intention of gaining profit. I think I made a valuable contribution. Visitors that want more information on online poker do get valuable information by reading my contribution imo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartjuh (talkcontribs) 10:07, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Smells like spam to me, too. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


THis is a school IP adress meaning various students are using it at the same time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:19, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Incomplete revert[edit]

Not sure how it got missed, but have a look here for the completion of a revert you made that didn't go back far enough. Easy mistake to make! :-) Carcharoth (talk) 22:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Source of map data[edit]

I'm looking for map data sources of the Thailand administrative borders. You uploaded a lot of maps. Where is the map data derived from? Is the data freely available? I would need the data for the OpenStreetMap project. So tracing from copyrighted maps is no option. stephankn -- (talk) 23:40, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

It's from various sources, and sometimes these even contradict - which is one of the reasons why I have stopped to create such maps. I doubt it is possible to copyright administrative boundaries - these are defined by legal texts, and these are in the PD in Thailand. But it would be better trying to find an authoritative source for these boundaries, maybe from the Royal Thai Survey Department. andy (talk) 14:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)


Hi, can you tell me why you erased another user's page (User:Veraladeramanera)? —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

It makes no sense to have editing experiments on the user page, we have the Sandbox for that. And we should minimize the number of pages which link/use directly those things added by the editing toolbar - pages containing such editing experiments are in need of check, to clean the vandalism, editing experiments or accidentally added demo stuff. But when having to skip 100 user pages before coming to the first real article makes this cleanup impossible. andy (talk) 14:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Names of amphoe and province articles[edit]

Andy, I've just left a new comment at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thai districts#Naming of articles. I hope you'll put your two cents in. I would like to change the de facto standard to remove Amphoe from the names articles about Thai districts. That's issue #1.

Issue #2 is that I'd like to have the basic province names default to the province, not the capital city, since most of the time the province is meant, and many links in articles are currently linking to cities when they actually mean the province. There are so few actively editing Thailand geographical articles right now, but you're obviously one to get the opinion of. I've been doing some work on Thai streets and highways lately, too. Have a look sometime. Cheers. --rikker (talk) 17:03, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll post my comment there later, sorry for the delay... andy (talk) 17:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Former provinces[edit]

Hi Andy, long time no meet. I saw these couple of edits [6], [7] and thought they seemed not to match with your definition on the category page. Rather than just revert as more Thai Khmer edit warring I'd like your opinion. After all you are our resident expert on Thai geography. :) Cheers, Paxse (talk) 16:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

In fact these are correct, as both provinces were once part of Siam/Thailand. And they were even provinces (changwat) in the modern sense, since during World War II these areas were annexed by Thailand and changwat were set up there (see my blog for a bit more) - though these had different names then; Battambang became Phra Tabong which seems to be just a different spelling/pronunciation, while Siam Reap became Phibun Songkhram (after the Prime Minister at that time). However, for Siam Reap there's also a second article Siam Nakhon Province covering the time before 1904, when it was a Mueang within the Monthon Burapha. And there's also Battambang Province (Thailand), which however lacks the WWII times. I am not sure if it is correct to have separate articles on the same entity, just because it changed ownership, though it has the advantage of avoiding nationalistic edit wars at the article on the current Khmer province. But at least the history section of the Khmer province should mention and link the corresponding Thai province. andy (talk) 17:01, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
My two cents.. I think it's probably a good idea to have separate articles for the reason you mention, Andy, and create a summary paragraph in the articles for the current provinces headed with a Main article:' link to the article on the historical former province. --rikker (talk) 14:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks Andy, and Rikker as well. I agree with separate articles if it will keep the combatants separated. However, they should be linked to allow readers to understand what is going on. I will sort some sort of link out. By the way, good catch reverting the rest of that cry for help across various Thai articles from some weird IP. Very strange.Paxse (talk) 13:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
One more small question. I'd like to move Battambang Province (Thailand) to Phra Tabong Province to follow the convention to use the Thai name (and following the other province articles). Do you think I should list this move for discussion or are all the interested editors here on this page, so I can be WP:BOLD? Paxse (talk) 13:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
Phra Tabong was the name during the Thai annexation 1942-1947, not sure about the one before 1904 (which is right now the only topic of that article). I have no idea if Phra Tabong (the romanization of the Thai name พระตะบอง) is just a different romanization of the same name as the Khmer name which after a French romanization became Battambang, and thus not sure if we should use the common current name, or the Thai name romanized under the RTGS which was not in use at that time. andy (talk) 21:11, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Very interesting. I've found several references to Phra Tabong from Google books snippets (a wonderful service, though I wish we had full text versions) here [8]. At least one of them reports that Phra Tabong was annexed from Cambodia in 1809 under Rama I - so it looks like the correct name. If you agree, I'll make the pagemove and add a couple of these references to the article - it should be enough to expand this tiny stub by a sentence or two.Paxse (talk) 08:04, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
My thoughts about the name: The name Battambang is a reference to the legend of Preah Bat Dambang Kranhoung, which holds (according to Battambang) that King Kranhoung threw his wooden staff from Angkor and it landed in present day Battambang. พระตะบอง Phra Tabong is just their version of the name of Preah (Bat) Dambang (Kranhoung), referring to the same legendary king. ដំបង /tambang/ is the Khmer word for "club, stick", equivalent to Thai ตะบอง /tabong/ (borrowed from Khmer). พระ /phra/ in Thai is equivalent to Khmer ព្រះ /preah/ (both from Pali/Sanskrit vara "excellent").
Today, พระตะบอง is still officially the Thai name for the Khmer province Battambang, and I would guess that use of this name dates to Siamese occupation of the region, around the beginning of the Chakri Dynasty. The Thai article on จังหวัดพระตะบอง has a fair amount of detail about changes in boundaries/administration during WWII, btw. --rikker (talk) 07:41, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Rikker04 for that interesting background - Can I count on you to add a sentence or two on naming to the article, then? ;) Cheers, Paxse (talk) 08:43, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Sure thing. We also need to do some disambiguation of all the Battambang pages. There's Battambang, the capital city in Battambang District in Battambang Province, and also Battambang Province (Thailand), Battambang Airport. I can do that. --rikker (talk) 09:14, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) I've been WP:BOLD, see Phra Tabong Province.Paxse (talk) 14:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

I see your bold and raise you a brazen. Much expanded, will look for sources to corroborate. :) --rikker (talk) 07:39, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


It caught my eye that you reverted a move of Thesaban to Thetsaban citing RTGS as the reason, but the word is pronounced เทด-สะ-บาน and correctly transcribed as thetsaban according to the RTGS. --Paul_012 (talk) 05:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Did not know the word is pronounced differently than spelled, must be one of these words of Sanskrit/Pali origin where the Thai spelling is not fully phonetically. I came to romanization thesaban with a nice software which of course does not know about such special cases. As there's always such a chaos of romanizations - thetsaban, tessaban, tesaban,... So maybe we should ask our Thai language special Rikker on what would be the correct romanization. But maybe a hint - in this paper the authors also use thesaban, and they seem to follow RTGS for other words. andy (talk) 21:42, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
My opinion (just that) would be to keep Thesaban, with Thetsaban redirecting to it. While Thetsaban is strict RTGS, the fact of actual pronunciation is that /ts/ tends to get reduced to /s/ at a syllable boundary. This situation only arises for foreign loanwords, particularly Pali/Sanskrit.:
Here's my semi-technical explanation: In words like เทศบาล the /t/ is not fully realized, that is, /t/ is a stop consonant, but the airflow does not get fully stopped when followed by /s/, a fricative. The two consonants /t/ and /s/ have the same place of articulation.
The spelling of the word in Thai will usually tell you which words are pronounced this way. In words like เทศบาล, which we might transliterate (not transcribe) as {thesbal}, the ศ /s/ has a dual role: it acts as the final consonant of the first syllable เทศ (from deśa "country"), pronounced /thet/ in isolation, but ศ /s/ also gives us an implicit /a/ vowel that becomes the linking syllable /sa/ connecting with บาล /ban/ (from pāl "protect").
So whenever one of the four /s/ consonants in Thai (ซ ศ ษ ส) is playing this dual role, the /t/ tends not to be fully realized. The list of such words is long. To name a few more common ones: อิสระ /itsara/ "freedom" tends to be pronounced "issara", ศาสนา /satsana/ "religion" tends to be pronounced "sassana", มัสมั่น /matsaman/ "massaman (curry)" is universally pronounced "massaman", etc. As mentioned, these are all loanwords into Thai. The same thing happens with พิซซ่า "pizza" -- even though pronouncing it /phitsa/ would be very close to the common English pronunciation "peet-sa", in Thai it follows the pattern of these other words and thus usually becomes /phissa/. This phenomenon is not widely recognized by Thais, though it is widespread. If it were to come to light, it might be considered "incorrect". To date, it seems to fly under the radar.
So to sum up, since thesaban is already widely used, and is perhaps a better representation of actual Thai pronunciation that thetsaban (RTGS notwithstanding), I don't think we need to change it to thetsaban. --rikker (talk) 04:47, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Pawyilee responded on my talk page (forgot to sign his comment), so I'm copying his input (and my response) here. --rikker (talk) 08:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Excuse me for butting in: it's Thetsaban. See the entry [I'm going to add], above, for etymology of Thetsa-; -ban is from bála, page 517 entry 9161.
No problem with the butting in, of course. But bála corresponds to Thai พล /phon/ and พละ /phala/ "strength", not บาล /baan/ "protect" (see pālá. --rikker (talk) 07:55, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
To Rikker, et al.: Thanks! I call myself Pawyilee, not just because my middle name is Lee, is easier to pronounce than first name Richard, and is shorter when transcribed into Thai ลี than is the initial, L. แอล., but also to honor the Isan village chief who was quite sure that สุกร' swine are หมาน่อย ธรรมดา' ordinary little dogs! Pawyilee (talk) 08:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Another reason to keep Thesaban occurred to me -- to maintain consistency with Thesaphiban (เทศาภิบาล), from the Indic roots เทศ (deśa) + อภิ (abhi) + บาล (pāl), but due to sandhi (สนธิ) compounding rules it becomes เทศาภิบาล (deśābhipāl, with a long ā vowel), and thus in RTGS must be Thesaphiban, and never *Thetsaphiban. Personally, I'd prefer to maintain consistency between these words with the same roots. --rikker (talk) 08:07, 24 November 2008 (UTC)


I see you like Thai articles. Good! You have Thai girlfriend or wife? JoJoTalk 13:30, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

ภรรยาของผมเป็นคนไทย :-) andy (talk) 21:13, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
Oh, you have Thai wife! Good! JoJoTalk 13:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Thai provincial seals.[edit]

Thai governmental offices may own copyright to works they have commissioned, and there doesn't seem to be information regarding when these seals began usage. I've learned from a contributor on the commons that they appeared in the Royal Government Gazette on 18 November 2004 [9], but given the quality of the scans compared to the first page of the announcement, it's probably more of a re-announcement. Still, unless we can determine the dates they were first used, they probably should be removed from the commons and uploaded at each individual Wikipedia instead. Your thoughts? Paul_012 (talk) 21:08, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Sadly I don't know exactly the copyright status of these seals either, I just think there should something similar to the rules for the German coat of arms (and there was a lot of discussion until this issue was finally solved). I would love to have more information on these seals, as well as the flags of the province, as well as the seals of the other entities - at least the Khet and the Thesaban have similar symbols, also many TAO, so probably also the Amphoe... But there is nearly nothing in english so far - so I wish someone would translate th:ตราประจำจังหวัดของไทย. But if these seals are not possible on commons until we have a 100% waterproof status, moving them to each WP again for the time being would be the only way. Hopefully this will be done by a bot. andy 19:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
According to that page on the Thai Wikipedia, most provincial seals have been in use since 1941, during the Pibulsonggram era, and were designed by the Fine Arts Department, so they should be Public Domain. Some others aren't that old, though, so I've put a deletion request at Commons, see Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Thai provincial seals. Paul_012 (talk) 07:45, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Thailand Provincial Seals (2.0)[edit]

Note: I didn't notice the earlier discussion, so I'm grouping the two together for my (and your) convenience in reading your talk page. Arrogant, I know. Change it back if you want to! --rikker (talk) 13:30, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Andy, here's another question for you. What do you know about the copyright status of the provincial seals? Are they eligible for copyright? I know certain Thai government official communications and works are ineligible, but government offices can hold the copyright on artistic works they create in general. Do these qualify? And if so, do you know which of them are older than 50 years old? I see 50+ of them have been uploaded to Commons (commons:Category:Provincial seals of Thailand), but in very low resolution, taken from a recent issue of the Royal Gazette. Thai Wikipedia currently has them all in quite nice quality, but lists them as copyrighted, even ones definitely older than 50 years old. Once I know which are public domain (or if they all are), I'll be happy to move them to Commons. --rikker (talk) 08:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

I wish I knew. Originally I was thinking that such official symbols aren't eligible for copyright (which is in fact the way it is in Germany), so the seals were moved to commons shortly after that one was created. Then the copyright paranoia took over, and someone on commons needed bullet-proof confirmation that they are free - which wasn't possible since there's no expert on Thai law around. However since most of them are more than 50 years old, those were saved from deletion, only those of the newer provinces and a few which were changed in the meantime (IIRC one was Phuket) had to be moved back to here under fair use. Then later the next paranoia started, and even for something in the PD one had to provide the source, and again several got deleted, and then later salvaged. Interestingly some one the thesaban emblems are on commons still without problems, but that's probably just till an admin detects them...
If I am not wrong, the ones on Thai WP are from a book by the Fine Arts Department, which also includes the emblems of the WWII provinces annexed from Cambodia and Laos. (ตราประจำจังหวัด. กรมศิลปากร กรุงเทพฯ: กรมศิลปากร, 2542.) It's probably hardly possible to find that book outside a few libraries now. I still hope that one day a Thai user capable of doing great vector graphics would do SVG version of all the emblems and donate them to commons; to have the same for the 6000+ municipalities and TAO would have to wait a loooooong time for sure. I tried a bit with Inkscape myself, but gave up for the moment as it's really not the thing I can do well... andy (talk) 20:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
As noted by Paul_012, the Thai page on the provincial seals (th:ตราประจำจังหวัดของไทย) gives the date that the seals were first used. For any more than 50 years old, I am now going to add them back to Commons using the higher resolution scans on Thai Wikipedia. Any in doubt I will leave alone for now.
Some may be older than the date they were first used as provincial seals, though. For example, the Bangkok seal has been used since the creation of กรุงเทพมหานคร in 1973. However,the two were combined in 1971 as เทศบาลนครหลวงกรุงเทพธนบุรี Thesaban Nakhon Luang Bangkok-Thonburi, and the article notes that the seal was used since then, too (with different letter on top). Now, that still not 50 years, but it stands to reason that some of the artwork for these seals has been in use in some official form for, say, longer than the province has existed. Are there amphoe seals, by chance? Time to keep digging. --rikker (talk) 13:30, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
No, AFAIK only the juristical persons have such a seal, i.e. provinces, municipalities, TAO, and also the khet in Bangkok. The PAO apparently also have one, but it seems to be the same as the province, but on one PAO website I have seen a different seal than that of the corresponding province. andy (talk) 14:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Here's a small victory: the artwork on the Bangkok seal (perhaps the most well known of them all) is public domain, so I think there's no logical way to claim the seal is copyrighted, because the rest is simply circles and words. This page outlines its origin. The image of Indra riding Erawan is from a drawing made by Narisara Nuvadtivongs (1863-1947) as a gift to Rama VI (1881-1925). The language of the page is ambiguous, stating that the artist drew it for the king "on his 60th birthday", but since Rama VI died at age 44, and the Narisara's 60th birthday was 1923, two years before the king died, I think we can conclude that it means the artist's 60th birthday, not the king's. Regardless, the artist has been dead for more than 60 years, so any artwork he created is public domain. --rikker (talk) 19:09, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert[edit]

Thanks for catching the vandalism on my user page before I did and reverting it! -- btphelps (talk) (contribs) 19:07, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

First mass in the Philippines[edit]

Your observation on what "original research" means helps clarify the notion and I hope will disabuse the editors involved in this article who I think have a rather circumscribed understanding of the term.

Mindful of the need for citing authorities and sources, I should in time be able to provide all these. Many thanks for your helpful comments. --Vicente Calibo de Jesus (talk) 02:01, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea what you are talking about, I cannot recall ever to edit that article or its discussion page. andy (talk) 12:00, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Walker Page[edit]

Hi there.

I noticed you had a page about Lenore Walker at one point, but that it was deleted. Can you relay the history of that for me? I don't know that I can ask you exactly what was posted (though I'd like to know) but I would like to know why it was removed. Thanks Liz1of113 (talk) 17:06, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

The was a page Lenore Walker back in 2005, and all it contained was "Lenore Walker." So absolutely nothing worth keeping, that why it was speedily deleted. andy (talk) 18:01, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Well, why did you make it? Just a page with her name? Were you hoping someone would put info about her on it? I'm pretty new to Wikipedia, so maybe I just don't get it. Liz1of113 (talk) 04:56, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

No problem. That page was deleted by me as part of the housekeeping I sometimes do here. It was created by an anonymous user, only identified by his IP address. I have no idea why that one created such an empty page - might be just to try editing, might be he thought he have to write something but had no idea what... Anyway, in case this Lenore Walker is a notable person, feel free to write a biography for her, that deleted page in the "ancient" history of Wikipedia means nothing. andy (talk) 08:40, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh! You didn't create the empty page, you deleted it. Thanks for clarifying. The person who made it still makes no sense, but that has nothing to do with you. Thanks again Liz1of113 (talk) 14:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.[edit]

Hey, I see that you're almost at six years on the project and still going strong. Thanks for sticking with it, and for all of your contributions! bd2412 T 07:43, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Nattakorn Devakula[edit]

Hi Andy. Sorry for the delay in replying to this. Yeah - it's the same guy from Soul's Code. He's also a TV news anchor, newspaper columnist, pitchman for a Nissan car and he's recorded an album. His father was a finance minister. And now he's running for governor of Bangkok - an ambitious young man. — WiseKwai 16:39, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the meanings of 'krunk'[edit]

I have made a contribution to the further understanding of the term 'krunk'. Clearly, it's an enhancement of what existed prior. Please don't undo the revisions as they are not only perfectly relevant but also absolutely pertinent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

I don't doubt you did this in good faith, however a disambiguation page is not the correct place for your addition. Please read Wikipedia:Disambiguation for more info on these kind of pages. Your word definition better belongs into Wiktionary, while weblinks should not be added into disambiguation pages - either that art group is notable enough to have an article here, and then the disambiguation page should link there, or it is not notable for the disambiguation either. Wikipedia is a web directory. andy (talk) 12:32, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Namen der thailändischen Royals[edit]

Hallo. Mir ist heute erst aufgefallen, dass die Namen von wohl allen Mitgliedern der Category:Chakri Dynasty irgendwie nicht so recht der Wiki-Namenskonvention (gibts das hier in :en:?) genügen - zum Beispiel: Prince Bhanurangsi Savangwongse of Siam, The Prince Bhanubandhu Vongsevoradej. Wen kann man da ansprechen? Ich wage es nicht, dies selbst zu machen, um mir nicht den Zorn der Monarchisten zuzuziehen. --hdamm (talk) 16:21, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

Du bist nicht der erste der drueber gestolpert ist - siehe Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Wave of recent article moves for Thai royals. andy (talk) 20:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
Kudos for moving so many Thai royals back to the right place. Can you check out these articles, which are now in User:Monarchians' "double prince" style: Prince Rangsit Prayurasakdi, The Prince of Chainat, Prince Nakkhatra Mangkala, The Prince of Chanthaburi II, Prince Chui of Siam, The Prince Boworn Maha Senanurak and Prince Chitcharoen, The Prince Narisara Nuvadtivongs? Perhaps these article names can be spiked to prevent him from moving them back. Kauffner (talk) 07:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Amphoe Suwannakhuha[edit]

Corrected Post Code to 39270Kudpung (talk) 15:18, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Well spotted. Don't know why it was wrong, in my spreadsheet it had the right number. andy (talk) 17:33, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion[edit]

I noticed that you tagged the page ناصر رسا for speedy deletion with the reason "notenglish". However, "notenglish" is not currently one of our criteria for speedy deletion, so I have removed the speedy deletion tag. You can use WP:PNT if you still want the page to be deleted. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 20:25, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Why did you delete the time splitters page, i wanted to know more about it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:51, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Stammtisch in Aachen[edit]


Falls du Lust hast da vorbeizuschauen, wäre eine kleine Rückmeldung nett. Gruß --Euku 23:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)


I have added a feature, the settings contain now a setting with a regex. If the regex is matched against the link, the link will be wrapped in nowiki tags. is in the setting now. Hope this helps! --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

International Space Station

Hi! You might be interested in the discussion at Talk:International Space Station#The Failed FAC. Thank you. Colds7ream (talk) 22:28, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

District (srok) maps needed for Cambodia[edit]

Hi! How are you? Don't know if you know but myself and especially User:Paxse have begun developing the districts of Cambodia on here. Check his constributions of late, he has begun writing them to a decent level. I was just thinking how great and not to mention useful the srok maps you created of Banteay Meanchey back in August 2007 were. We would be enormously grateful if you could create more maps in the same way by Province as they are greatly needed, and improve the understanding of the articles considerably. Can you help? Dr. Blofeld White cat 11:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


Can You Kindly reverse James Dixon & Sons To J Dixon since I was trying to be consistant with the whistle makers names and the Wiki Links in whistle page , and since most people refer to him in writing as Dixon & Sons or J Dixson & Sons . His Own Hallmark is J Dixon . well Kindly Update me if You can PLEASE. Regards --Avner Strauss (talk) 18:38, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

You can move it as well, just use that "move" link in the tab nearly next to the edit tab. I just noticed that the page was an orphan with no inbound links, but there were pages linking it with the other spelling. andy (talk) 19:36, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Proposal for new Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles[edit]

A drafted new version of the Manual of Style for Thailand-related articles has been started here. Still at issue are specific naming conventions for Thai royals and nobles and settlements. As a member of WikiProject Thailand, you are welcome to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Thailand#Updating the Manual of Style (part 2). Paul_012 (talk) 18:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

old files coming back to haunt you.[edit]

Could you please take a look at commons:File:Schleswig_holstein_hei_(1).png and commons:File:Schleswig_holstein_hei.png to see which is the more up-to-date file? Agathoclea (talk) 12:33, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

File:Altena in Germany.png missing description details[edit]

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File:Alfeld-(Leine) in Germany.png missing description details[edit]

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Ungeduld, sorry[edit]

Hallo Ahoerstemeier, nur falls du es noch nicht gesehen hast [10]. Herzliche Grüße --Zollernalb (talk) 10:53, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

ich nochmal, sag bitte Bescheid, wenn du nicht möchtest, ich denke mir dann etwas anderes aus, kein Problem. Grüße --Zollernalb (talk) 23:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, ich bin im Moment noch mit anderen Dingen arg beschaeftigt, und muss da auch erstmal die alten Quellen wieder hervorkramen. andy (talk) 23:18, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


Aaerik (talk · contribs) appears to be somebody that you've seen before. I don't recall seeing that one before. I had the edits oversighted if you are wondering where they went. Perhaps I should have blocked on sight, but I hesitated a moment since I didn't recognize the guy. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:44, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

See meta:Vandalism reports#Thailand vandal and Wikipedia:Long term abuse#Erik Young. This person seemed to had some mishap in his expat life in Thailand which made him get mentally insane. Since 2006 he is posting is rant all over the web, including Wikipedia, Wikitravel, Uncyclopedia, blog comments, and so on. He was talked to several times with no result, so blocking him on sight is the only thing we can do, then maybe he will change to post his rant where it stays due to incapable or non-caring webmasters. Or until someone he insults in his rants finally files a complaint and the Thai police takes him into custody. andy (talk) 09:37, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Ah, okay, thanks for the pointer. I wasn't aware of this nutcase. I'll block on sight from now on. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:23, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Taufik Akbar[edit]

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Deletion of page for Vanilla Chainsaws[edit]

Hi I am just wondering why the page for Vanilla Chainsaws has been deleted. I wanted to add some more information to it.


Danny —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danny Saunders (talkcontribs) 07:47, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

That was in 2005, and it was simply because it was not an article then - it only contained the words "official information here:". Feel free to start it again with more contents. andy (talk) 14:07, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

File:De wolfenbuettel coat.png listed for deletion[edit]

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:De wolfenbuettel coat.png, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Calliopejen1 (talk) 18:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Editing Barnstar[edit]

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Thailand location maps[edit]

Hast Du Ahnung von Vorlagen-Programmierung? Vielleicht hast Du ja schon die neuen Provinces locator maps of Thailand gesehen? Die kann man nun aufgrund ihrer Größe nicht so einfach in die Infobox der en: Provinz-Seiten einsetzen. Vielleicht kannst Du die Template:Infobox Province Thailand umprogrammieren, wie es zum Beispiel in der de:Vorlage:Infobox Provinzen in Thailand gemacht wurde? Oder kennst Du jemanden, den man fragen könnte? In de: habe ich übrigens bereits alle Karten ersetzt.

BTW: es gibt auch eine neue Kategorie auf Commons (Category:SVG maps of Thailand). Ich bin dabei, diese Karten mit den Farbangaben der "locator maps of Thailand", wie in de:Wikipedia:Kartenwerkstatt/Positionskarten vorgeschlagen, neu zu zeichnen ;-)

--hdamm (talk) 14:25, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

I need help with my password[edit]

Dear Ahoerstemeier: I have tried for a long time to remember my password and, as I have realized you were the last person who edited my data (15:47, 1 January 2006), I'd like to know if you might help me to recover it or change it. The user name is GeorgeRodneyMaruriGame.

Thanks for your attention and in advance for your help.

George Maruri —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I cannot help with that. The normal admins have no access to the actual user database, and I have no idea if there's any way or protocol to reset a password to reclaim an account. Best look through Wikipedia:Questions and ask the question the place where it fits best. andy (talk) 18:53, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


Isn't the black box rutherfordium rather than lawrencium?

Jcwf (talk) 01:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC) P.S.

Oh I think I see what you have done: the f14 is counted in the d block.

Lak Mueang[edit]

Schon gesehen? Ich habe einige neue Fotos von Lak Mueang hochgeladen (siehe: commons:Category:City pillar shrines) - zwei neue (Nakhon Sawan und Nakhon Phanom) und zusätzlich drei Bilder aus Phitsanulok. --hdamm (talk) 07:47, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Und hier gibts auch zwei neue Bilder. --hdamm (talk) 08:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Shame on me - ich habe meine Photos noch immer nicht hochgeladen, dabei habe ich auch ein paar neue Lak Mueang, Sala Klang und Amphoe-Bueros fotografiert. andy (talk) 20:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Hallo. Ich habe leider unseren Thaikurs **Totaal** vergessen. Schade. Na, es gibt ja (hoffentlich) noch ein nächstes Semester.
Kuck doch mal aus Spass hier, und lies mal meine Kommentare. Was meinst Du dazu? --hdamm (talk) 15:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Amphoe Bacho[edit]

In Amphoe Bacho hast Du gestern geschrieben: "... and Khuean Bang Lang a subdistrict municipality which covers the whole same-named subdistrict". Wo finde ich denn wohl Khuean Bang Lang? --hdamm (talk) 08:22, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Oups, gut aufgepasst. Ich bin in der Spalte verrutscht, statt Geocode 9603 hatte ich 9503 genommen... Schon korrigiert, danke. andy (talk) 09:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Si Kai[edit]

Thank you so much. The are actually my first pages to create and I am just learning how to do everything. Everything is very new for me. I don't know anything about the coordinates. I didn't realize they were added. I do have some photos, but don't really know how to add them. I am happy to email them to you if you'd like to post them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrlosangeles777 (talkcontribs) 08:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Kim Leakhena[edit]

Could you find the Khmer name? Dr. Blofeld White cat 12:48, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, no, I don't speak any Khmer nor can read any of the letters - struggling with Thai language and letters already keeps me busy enough. andy (talk) 22:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Her Khmer name added--វីរៈ (talk) 12:59, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Mae Nak Phra Khanong[edit]

I just visited the shrine yesterday and I talked to people working there. The fact is she is known as "Mae Nak Phra Khanong" in Thai because her shrine (and where allegedly she lived) is located by the Phra Khanong canal, not because of districts. I don't know the date when the boundaries were drawn so as to leave the shrine out of Phra Khanong district. I took the text from another Wikipedia article. I was not aware that article's statement was not based on actual facts. The article itself has probably other inaccuracies and in my opinion it should me moved to "Mae Nak Phra Khanong", her full name in Thai and the name of the corresponding article in the Thai language. She is not mentioned only as "Mae Nak" by Thais and it looks to me like an abbreviation not based on local traditions, just to make it easier for tourists to remember. Xufanc (talk) 01:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Ayutthaya Kingdom[edit]

Hi. I want to make Ayutthaya Kingdom featured. My husband, User:Rlevse (I just call him "R" on wikipedia), says it needs refs first, then copy work. He say the photos are okay, they are free/PD. If you want to help, that be great. JoJoTalk 17:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll look over it a bit, but I am very busy with keeping up with the current administrative subdivisions - don't know if you know my blog already - so maybe for a year already I hardly edit more than sporadic here. But if I can find any reference in my Thailand library I will add it for sure. andy (talk) 22:18, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Happy Ahoerstemeier's Day![edit]

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User:Ahoerstemeier has been identified as an Awesome Wikipedian,
and therefore, I've officially declared today as Ahoerstemeier's day!
For being such a beautiful person and great Wikipedian,
enjoy being the Star of the day, dear Ahoerstemeier!


A record of your Day will always be kept here.

For a userbox you can add to your userbox page, see User:Rlevse/Today/Happy Me Day! and my own userpage for a sample of how to use it.RlevseTalk 00:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

PS, you should archive some of this talk page ;-) and see note from wife immediately above. RlevseTalk 00:47, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Your Welcome[edit]

I just noticed your kind welcome. Thank you. Phineas J. Whoopee (talk) 01:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Commons:File:De viersen coat.png[edit]

This file was moved to Commons from English Wikipedia, but some description information may have got lost in the process.

As you are noted as the original uploader, or in the history for the file, it would be appreciated if you could help in reconstructing this information.

Thanks for you assistance and keep uploading 'free' media :)Sfan00 IMG (talk) 00:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea WHAT information is supposed to be missing. andy (talk) 14:37, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Commons:File:Bundeslaender germany be.png[edit]

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Special:Log for uploads can help in this.

Thanks for you assistance and keep uploading 'free' media :)Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

"Naming Conventions"[edit]

Sieh doch mal bitte meine Änderung hier. Was meinst Du zu der Antwort von einem gewissen User:Rak-Tai auf der Diskussionsseite:Pattaya? --hdamm (talk) 07:33, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Danke. Da kannst das aber auch immer so geschickt formulieren ;-)
--hdamm (talk) 12:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Nun behaupte aber nicht ich wäre diplomatisch :-) andy (talk) 14:59, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Pattaya Names[edit]

I posted this on the Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language, and you can read the response from Anon moos and my reply to him.

"I have been changing the existing names of area towns in the article Pattaya to conform to the Wikipedia standards on Romanization, namely: "Based on the above discussion, I propose that the Manual of Style recommend that for general cases: For Thai-language terms, use the established English spelling of the word, if available. Otherwise, the Royal Thai General System of Transcription should be followed when romanising Thai words into English." Having maintained a residence in Pattaya for 15 years, I have observed a slowly-developing consistency in the re-naming of streets and other sites into English words. You might look at the website of Bangkok Pattaya Hospital. They are a respected hospital used by educated foreigners. They identify their address with the established English spellings that I use in the article. Please remember that Wikipedia is used primarily by English readers looking for information. I think it is imperative that they be given information that they will recognize should they visit Pattaya. In my own case, some time ago I wanted to locate my residence in Google maps. I live on Pratumnak Road, and surely know how to spell my address (as does the local post office). After a long search, I discovered they called my street Phra Tamnak. I assure you that myself and my English-speaking neighbors do not live on nor write our address as Phra Tamnak. Kindly look in Google at the spelling of hotels and condos there. They use the accepted English spelling. Furthermore, I think all the Pattaya names should be consistently spelled "according to the established English spelling" throughout the articles in Wikipedia. However, when I make a change, it is soon reverted back. The consensus on the discussion page is to use the antiquated spellings which are rarely used in Pattaya, and what would give confusing information to a potential visitor to Pattaya; or we may consistently use them as to the widely-used spellings in the city itself. While I recognize that you respect the majority, there are times when the majority is not correct. HELP! Rak-Tai (talk) 16:00, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

"Probably the best way would be to get determinate guidelines in place on Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(Thailand-related_articles) that would help to settle such disputes generally... AnonMoos (talk) 18:01, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

"Please tell me how I may initiate your recommendation. I am quite disturbed by the tone of the comments made by user andy. In the first, on the Pattaya discussion page, he referred to our Pattaya newspapers as "cheap English so-called newspapers." (and my contribution was called stupid). My friend is the editor of a respected Pattaya newspaper, and was deeply offended when I showed him this comment on Wikipedia. The second one is rather a veiled threat to me also by Andy. Here they are:

"I fully agree with Paul, especially for the names of districts, subdistricts and towns we have recommended spellings which all follow the RTGS transcription. The street signs more and more follow these spellings, so there is no need to follow the cheap English so-called newspapers of Pattaya in their preferred spellings. I am not fully sure, but the only serious big newspapers (The Nation and Bangkok Post) use the recommended spellings for locations as well. So it would be simply stupid to use a different transcription scheme when there is a standard (which has its limitations however) available. andy (talk) 11:43, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

"It is clearly not good style to continue enforcing your own preferred spelling despite the discussion on Talk:Pattaya has given quite the opposite result. There are much more important things to edit on that article than those spellings, starting an Wikipedia:Edit war on this is clearly not a good idea and won't lead you anywhere. andy (talk) 08:10, 31 July 2009 (UTC)"

Please continue to help me in the pursuit of getting the names on the Pattaya article to match those used by its residents and businesses. While I am by no means an expert contributor to Wikipedia, I have had many of my articles on various subjects published in the "cheap" Pattaya newspapers, as well as the "Bangkok Post" and the "Nation".

I am trying to make an educated contribution to Wikipedia, but such comments will discourage me and perhaps others from joining in this worthy project. Rak-Tai (talk) 06:11, 1 August 2009 (UTC)"

You yourself have posted this opinion::

"The basic guideline to go by is of course Wikipedia:Naming conventions. For clarity, I'd also like to propose that this MoS recommend:

In accordance with Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English), use the most commonly-accepted English name of a subject, if one exists, e.g. Bangkok, not Krung Thep Maha Nakhon, and Thailand, not Prathet Thai.

For names directly derived from the Thai language, use the most common English spelling if one exists, e.g. Pattaya, not Phatthaya, and Muay Thai, not Muai Thai. If no common spelling can be established, follow the Royal Thai General System of Transcription, as described under #Romanization."

I see now that you insist on dominating the articles about Thailand, and will not abide by even you own guidelines. In my long years of English teaching and proofreading, I have encountered a few people whose minds were closed to any teachability or reason. So now it is beneath me to quarrel with you any further. To be fair to you, you should be aware that I consider your English to be only high school level. Your attempts at English grammer, expression, and over-all written-English civility, as demonstrated in your posts, are lacking. This perhaps preclude your grasping of what Wikipedia (English version) is attempting to showcase. Perhaps you could better serve by staying with projects in your native language. Rak-Tai (talk) 17:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

You don't understand a thing of how this Wikipedia project works. Blaming other users with lacking grammar or even lacking civility is really not what is necessary on a project with NEEDS co-working and finding compromises. It seems we are having a serious case of misunderstanding here - I don't want to discourage you from editing, but your last comment is of the same negative subtone that you seem to read into mine (but which I never intended). I have been editing the Thai topics from the beginning, and had problems with the plethora of spellings all the time, so the recommended spellings as provided by the Royal Institute were a big help to finally get a consistent system. But if you don't want to discuss this issue and think calling my English skills to be high-school level, well then the discussion is over for me. andy (talk) 19:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

There is no queston that you have spent a great amount of time developing the Thailand topics. This is not in dispute, and your efforts are greatly appreciated. Since there are still issues to be resolved, it is time to cease any war of words, and try for an educated and intellectual resolution.

Names in Thailand, along with the culture, are gradually being westernized, especially in those areas where there are a great number of foreigners and educated Thais. In the article Amphoe Bang Lamung mention is made of Si Ratcha, while the same article mentions the Sriratcha Tiger Zoo. There is sure to be an increasing number of such incidents of confusing references. My judgment is that where there is a common usage of a name by businesses, hospitals, and publcations, that this usage be placed in parenthesis: Bang Lamung (Banglamung), Na Kluea (Naklua). Listing the spelling of the Royal Institute first, which would probably be your choice, would be acceptable. We could limit this to the Pattaya-related articles, and perhaps expand it in the future. It would not cause any confusion, as both names would be listed. Again, for my part, my desire is to settle this in a civil and respectful manner. Let me know what you think. Rak-Tai (talk) 01:44, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

At first I think this user discussion is the right place for this discussion, it should be continued in Talk:Pattaya or even the Manual of Style discussion page. It is of course confusing that the town/district Si Ratcha uses the spelling as recommended by the Royal Institute (and therefore also on most traffic signs), while the zoo uses a different one. And I even wouldn't be surprised to find the zoo using different spellings, e.g. different on the sign at the entrance, the visitor brochure and the ticket, simply because for many Thai the spelling in Latin is same irrelevant or difficult as the Thai spelling for most farang. As explaining the whole problem in every article, or give all the variants at every occurrence make the articles difficult to read, I think the best compromise is to state the most common variants at the beginning, thus for Amphoe Si Racha starting with "Si Racha (also Sri Ratcha)" or other way round for an adopted spelling (mostly this affects persons) different from the RTGS start with Sri Ratcha tiger zoo (RTGS Si Racha). But only in the introduction of the article, but not at every reference to something named after Si Racha. If someone wonders the reader can still click on the link and see the article for details. Anyone who has been in Thailand and looked around would have noticed the spelling chaos himself.
One thing I noticed - removing all red links is not good, those you removed here all are articles which still need to be written. andy (talk) 19:30, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


Stimmt das? --hdamm (talk) 16:34, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Potapt ist sehr vertrauenswuerdig, der hat die meisten der Amphoe-Artikel auf th: erstellt bzw. vereinheitlicht und u.a. auch die ganzen TAO/Staedte dort eingepflegt. Google findet noch nicht viel dazu, aber wenn ich [11] richtig lese dann bekommen alle Khet, die nur einen Kwaeng haben, jetzt einen Nachschlag. Diese neun sind nur der Anfang, bis naechstes Jahr kommen noch weitere. Ich muss aber erst noch etwas weiter recherchieren, naechste Woche dann mehr im Blog :-) andy (talk) 19:06, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

User: Fajitagate[edit]

Hi there Ahoerstemeier! I filed an SPI case for Fajitagate and I'm letting you know since it seems that you've dealt with Fajitagate more than any other user it seems and you added the sock tags to the sock accounts. It can be found here. I didn't see an old case originally, but if you've already filed one, could you just redirect it to the case you filed. Thanks. Elockid (talk) 14:07, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Pattaya travel guide cleanup[edit]

I have been trying to rid he Pattaya article of commercial references in the travel section. I hope it meets with ypur approval, as I am sure with your experience you know better than anyone what is encyclopedic. What is your judgment in removing the travel guide cleanup template? Is there any more cleanup to be done? I thank you for watching for vandalism--it seems to be common on Pattaya. Sorry we got off on the wrong foot. Hopefully I can help to benefit Wikipedia. R/T-รัก-ไทย (talk) 04:35, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

You're right, Pattaya is a relative popular target for vandalism, however most common is the spamming of weblinks, either of resorts directly or of low-quality sites full of ads without any original contents. I therefore have Pattaya and a few other touristic hotspots in my watchlist just to be sure to remove thus bad edits quickly. The cleanup of the article is much less easy, there's a big grey zone of what is encyclopedic and what is a travel guide. Things like entrances prices or opening hours are easy, those only belong in a travel guide, but which touristic venue is notable enough to be mentioned in an article, or even to have an article on its own is quite difficult to decide and very subjective. One escape to tighten the article without deleting too much would split off a List of touristic sights around Pattaya and then keep only the most important ones in the main article. All of the province articles have such an ugly list in the article now, but I haven't had the time and patience to clean those a bit. andy (talk) 22:16, 24 August 2009 (UTC)


Hallo Ahoerstemeier, ich hoffe, dass ich bei dir richtig bin. Seit einiger Zeit versuche ich mein SUL-Konto einzurichten. Es scheitert immer an einem gleichnamigen Benutzer der th.wikipedia. Ich denke jedoch, dass dieser noch keine edits getätigt hat. Kannst du dies evt. prüfen? Habe ich richtig gesehen, dass du Bürokrat in der th.wp bist? Kannst du mein Konto dann evt. auch zusammenführen mit dem th.wp Konto? Vielen Dank, viele Grüße --Itti (talk) 19:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Jain, ich bin zwar dort Buerokrat, aber das eher aus historischen Gruenden als es noch kaum aktive Thai-Wikipedianer gab. Daher nutze ich meine Rechte nur noch in Ausnahmefaellen. Am einfachsten stellst du deine Anfrage hier. Da der Benutzer th:Itti seit seiner Anmeldung 2006 noch nichts editiert hat denke ich dass das dann recht fix von einem lokalen Buerokraten umgesetzt wird. andy (talk) 20:09, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Mach ich, vielen Dank. Viele Grüße --Itti (talk) 20:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)


Thank you for your comments on the WP:TFD for Amphoe, although it was unfortunately after the discussion had closed. I kept a list of the 900+ pages which were converted from infobox Amphoe to infobox settlement. The conversion was performed by a script, and there is no particular why it couldn't be changed yet again by another script. Your concerns about the use of a template as complicated as {{infobox settlement}} are understandable. I am wondering if a compromise could be reached. Perhaps a very lightweight template "frontend" to infobox settlement. As far as I can tell, the major reason for deprecating/deleting many of these regional templates is desire for consolidation behind a standard format. Using infobox settlement as the backend, could still provide the desired structure, but with a simplified frontend which is easier for the casual user to understand. Just my thoughts on the situation. There is some active discussion going on in various places, including the talk page for {{infobox settlement}} and WP:VP/M. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:59, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Oudomxay Province[edit]

Kuck doch mal bei de:Diskussion:Ahoerstemeier. --hdamm (talk) 08:26, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Need a bit of help[edit]

Hi Andy, There appears to be some vandalism on this page Stock market

=== Market participants ===
The major market participants in NITTE(a place near Karkala) are MAHESH NAYAK and NISHAN SHETTY. Recently even KEERTHI RAM has joined the party with SHAREKHAN LTD.

I think Stock market should be redirected to Stock exchange. Could you help me do this. shampoo (talk) 16:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Amphoe Mueang Sukhothai[edit]

Nochmal ich: muss der folgende Satz in Geschichte "Originally named Mueang as the capital district of Sukhothai district,..." nicht eigentlich heißen "Originally named Mueang as the capital district of Sukhothai province,..."? Oder stehe ich mir da schon wieder selber im Weg? --hdamm (talk) 17:11, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Ne, da war ich zu schnell. andy (talk) 08:30, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Amphoe Galyani Vadhana[edit]

Hallo. Im Abschnitt Geschichte, letzter Absatz, dritter Satz fehlt irgendwie ein Verb. Was noch erwähnt werden sollte: die drei Tambon wurden vom derzeitigen Amphoe Mae Chaem abgetrennt, oder? Kannst Du de:Amphoe Galyani Vadhana mal gegenlesen, bitte? --hdamm (talk) 08:43, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Please explain why you reverted my changes[edit]

I added some information to this page:

You then reverted it. Please explain why. You can chat with to discuss how he contacted Planet Poker to verify his claim, and that they did not answer, probably because they don't have the logs that go that far back anymore. This is interesting information that should not be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rdelaplante (talkcontribs)

It is unsourced, it only adds irrelevant details not necessary for the article, and first of all an email address never belongs into an article. andy (talk) 12:22, 22 December 2009 (UTC)


Die Karte HunsrueckLage.png ist nicht ganz korrekt. Der Hunsrück ist darauf bis zur luxemburgischen Landesgrenze eingezeichnet und beinhaltet damit fälschlischer weise den gesamten Saargau und das Saartal. Sollte man gelegentlich ändern! -- (talk) 00:12, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Telecommunications in Thailand[edit]

Thanks for your contributions to this article. Telecommunications one of the fastest developing fields of technology in the world. A special effort is therefore required to keep articles like these up to date as the statistics reported here can change dramatically in as little as a few months. If you can, please take a moment to check the page for accuracy and make any necessary updates.--Kudpung (talk) 06:52, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Thai MoS proposal, naming of settlements[edit]

Hi. The proposed Thai MoS is currently under discussion (again—hoping to finally have this finalised), and the naming of settlements still needs to be settled. As a major contributor to Thai province and district articles, your input would be greatly appreciated at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles)/Draft. Thanks. --Paul_012 (talk) 11:36, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Amphoe Galyani Vadhana[edit]

  1. Nice to know you. I'm pleased to help you any time you want. Sorry for my late response.
  2. I am a second-year student of Thammasat University's Faculty of Law, and have taken and is taking times writing legal articles in the Thai Wikipedia.
  3. In Thailand, establishing a new Amphoe is required by the National Administration Act, BE 2534 (1991), to be made by a Royal Decree.
  4. As for the "Royal Decree Establishing Amphoe Galyani Vadhana, Changwat Chiang Mai, BE 2552 (2009)" (Thai: พระราชกฤษฎีกาตั้งอำเภอกัลยาณิวัฒนา จังหวัดเชียงใหม่ พ.ศ. ๒๕๕๒) as published in the Government Gazette volume 126, part 97 A, page 1, dated 25 December 2009.
    1. The royal signature is at the head of the Royal Decree below the royal command emblem and the name of the Royal Decree, appearing "Bhumibol Adulyadej, Rex. Given on the 18th Day of December, BE 2552 (2009*); Being the 64th Year of the Present Reign."
    2. And the countersignature is at the end of the Royal Decree, reading "Countersigned by: Abhisit Vejjajiva, Prime Minister."
    3. Though the King signed it on 18 December 2009, section 2 of the Royal Decree reads: "This Royal Decree shall come into force as from the day following the date of its publication in the Government Gazette."
  5. Following the revolution in 1932:
    1. The laws are in this style, see some of the prevailing laws translated in English: Adoption Act, BE 2522 (1979), Copyright Act, BE 2537 (1994).
    2. It is required by the Constitution that all Thai laws must be signed by the King and countersigned by the Prime Minister in order to become valid. Though, they can be valid without any royal signature or countersignature if the Prime Minister orders them to be published in the Government Gazette when they have been vetoed by the King but reaffirmed by the National Assembly, it is the case of veto as in the most nations.
—— Clumsily  • Talk | 2010.01.06, 00:16 hours (ICT)

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Kalasin Province[edit]

It's said Kalasin Province was re-established 1947. The German WP states 1959, but both without sources. You may know the correct date or year, please revise. --media_lib (talk) 08:10, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

1947 is correct, I added the Royal Gazette announcement as reference now. andy (talk) 12:48, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
Thx. Next question below ;-). --media_lib (talk) 12:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)


Check the table of tambon. I don't understand the figures in front of the inhabitants. Any idea. --media_lib (talk) 12:24, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

It's the number of Muban, somehow the table caption was lost. andy (talk) 17:02, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Khet Chandrakasem?[edit]

In [12] I read of a Khet Chandrakasem (เขตวังจันทรเกษม) that was later renamed-reorganized to Chatuchak. I don't find anything about it, but I'm sure you know about that, - or it might be a topic for your impressive blog. --media_lib (talk) 14:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

No, you misread that text - it means that the school was originally in the area (เขต) of the palace (วัง) Chandrakasem (จันทรเกษม). The district in Bangkok were renamed to Khet in 1972, before they were named Amphoe like in all other provinces. And as you can read in Khet Chatuchak, the district was only created in 1989. andy (talk) 15:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Amphoe Ban Fang[edit]

Schon gesehen? Talk:Amphoe Ban Fang --hdamm (talk) 13:20, 16 March 2010 (UTC)



I would like to ask your opinion about the format that should be used for the localities from Romania where at least 20% of the population speaks Hungarian. Note: "In Romania, the official language is Romanian."[13] Also "Where over 20 of the population is of an ethnic minority, all documents of a legal character will be published in the ethnic minorities' mother tongue.".

Variant 1. Romanian_Name (Hungarian: Hungarian_Name)
Variant 2. Romanian_Name (Hungarian: Hungarian_Name)
Variant 3. Romanian_Name or Hungarian_Name (Romanian: Romanian_Name; Hungarian: Hungarian_Name)
Variant 4. Romanian_Name(Romanian) or Hungarian_Name(Hungarian)

There are used different formats on different articles and I think it should exist a standard format used for all of them

Thanks in advance for your answer and sorry if posting this on an admin's personal page wasn't a good thing(Umumu (talk) 11:12, 24 March 2010 (UTC))

Overdue barnstar[edit]

Barnstar of Diligence.png The Barnstar of Diligence
For your consistent expert edits on so many Thai-related articles, spotting errors and incrementally improving content. Day in, day out, your skillful review and corrections make Wikipedia into a better and better encyclopedia. Congratulations! รัก-ไทย (talk) 10:04, 3 May 2010 (UTC)


Durch Deine Änderung hat Yasothon jetzt 2 Abschnitte "History". Willst Du das noch anpassen? --hdamm (talk) 12:27, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Amphoe Chok Chai[edit]

...und woher hast Du diese Zahlen? Bei mir geht die Startistik nur bis 2551? --hdamm (talk) 16:14, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

Weil der Webmaster von DOPA beim Grossumbau der Webseite so einige Seiten auf den Stand Ende 2009 zurueckgesetzt hat, und das bis heute niemand gemerkt hat :-( Auch betroffen ist die ccaatt-Liste, wo das letzte Update mit den Codes von Galyani Vadhana wieder fehlt. Und EMails ignoriert der Webmaster anscheinend, zumindest kommt niemals eine Reaktion :-( Die Zahlen fuer 2552 habe ich zum Glueck noch lokal gespiegelt. andy (talk) 19:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Vielleicht solltest Du den Link anpassen? --hdamm (talk) 11:41, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Der Link stimmt doch - er war von April bis Mai gueltig, dann ist er (hoffentlich temporaer) kaputtgegangen. Wohin sollte ich denn sonst linken - die Daten von 2008? Waere ja auch falsch. Ich hoffe ja noch dass es bei DOPA auch mal jemand merkt das da was auf der Webseite fehlt... andy (talk) 17:49, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

New Thailand contributor.[edit]

Hello, My name is Ian Reide, from Australia, a farlang, currently spending several years in Thailand and SEA. I have started adding content and editing on a number of Thailand subjects, principally the Surin province. My reason for contacting you is to let you that I am working on similar projects to you, that I am a beginner with wikipedia, and that any feedback you wish to give would be appreciated, and, that I am willing to tackle any projects you might want to send to me. Best wishes.

p.s. for some reason I cannot confirm my email address with wikipedia. I will keep trying, but you can contact me on ireide at —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ian@perth (talkcontribs) 12:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


Hey, I am just wondering why you are removing the links to Tripopedia added by the anon user. I looked at the site and it seems potentially useful and non-commercial. Doesn't seem to hurt. -Spike Wilbury (talk) 16:23, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

I am just suspicious at any mass-adding for weblinks, especially if that's the only contribution of a user. As Wikipedia isn't a web directory, it's rare that a site added to many articles is a quality link for all of them. andy (talk) 19:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)


I just wanted to get some advice. If I get about 5k contributions, and most of them are vandalism reverts, do you think that's enough experience to get accepted into being an abuse response volunteer? Endofskull (talk) 20:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Diocese[edit]

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Wat Chedi Luang question[edit]

Hi, in June 2005 you added text to the just started article about Wat Chedi Luang. I started the Dutch version of the article by more or less translating the German version. My question is about this sentence you added:

The current temple grounds originally was made up of three temples - Wat Chedi Luang, Wat Ho Tham and Wat Sukmin.

I used the sentence from the German version, which was started in May 2008, and also mentiones the same fact. So that must have originated from the English version where you added this text. I do not see a source for this information.

After the cremation of Chan Kusalo, the abbot of Wat Chedi Luang, I bought a book about the cremation, containing also information about Wat Chedi Luang, more specific it contained a map dating from 1893. This map mentiones Wat Ho Tham but not Wat Sukmin. In total 4 Wats are mentioned as surrounding Wat Chedi Luang: วิหาร.วัดสบฝาง - wí-hăn • wát sòp făng, วิหาร.วัดหอธรรม - wí-hăn • wát hŏ tham, วิหาร.วัดสบชมิ้น - wí-hăn • wát sòp chá-mín and วิหาร.วัดพันเตา - wí-hăn • wát phan tao.

This makes me conclude that there were originally five temples on the temple grounds, not three.

In Exploring Chiang Mai, City, Valley & Mountains by Oliver Hargreave it says about Wat Phan Tao that is was originally part of Wat Chedi Luang, but is now a temple on its own. This supports the information on the 1893 map.

So, my question is: what was the source of your information?

FredTC (talk) 10:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Hard to remember what I did five years ago :-) I think that fact must have been from the book Lanna: Thailand's Northern Kingdom, but would have to check with it to confirm - don't have it at hand right now. andy (talk) 12:11, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, was from that book, I added the reference. Guess we should move your comment to Talk:Wat Chedi Luang, it is still possible that Michael Freeman had an erroneous source. andy (talk) 21:43, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I think it is a good idea to move the comment. FredTC (talk) 02:19, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
Your reference to the book gives a invalid ISDN. In the article about Wat Phra Sing the book is also mentioned with ISBN 0-50097602-3, which is valid. FredTC (talk) 02:19, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

File:Thailand Mueang Surat.png missing description details[edit]

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If you have other uploads like this I would suggest updating them at the same time :) Sfan00 IMG (talk) 14:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

It was uploaded long before the copyright paranoia broke out. I create it myself, it licensed it by the then current GFDL. And I have upload maybe hundreds of files... andy (talk) 21:38, 11 November 2010 (UTC) dead[edit]

As I noticed earlier today, isn't anymore (wayback says since around 2008?). So, all "external links to it should be deleted. Which other useful source would you recommend instead? --media_lib (talk) 03:38, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

It seems to be dead since beginning of October. Looks like you don't follow my blog :-), then you would know there's a new - but it does not have all amphoe yet, and the numerical code necessary for linking to a specific amphoe is hard to find. andy (talk) 10:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)

Khao Phra Wihan National Park[edit]

Would you please peek at commons:Category:Khao Phra Wihan National Park, and then into my sandbox? --Pawyilee (talk) 07:41, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

image re-use[edit]

Hallo Ahoerstemeier, in der aktuellen Ausgabe der Aachener Kirchenzeitung (Ausgabe Mönchengladbach)[14] (1. Seite) wurden 2 dir im Credit zugeschriebene Bilder abgedruckt. Das 2. davon, 3 rote Kerzen, konnte ich auf Commons aber nicht identifizieren. Falls du den Dateinamen noch kennst, kannst du ihn vielleicht hier posten, weil wir derartigen Re-use auf Commons gerne registrieren. --Túrelio (talk) 07:50, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Da muss der Kirchenzeitung ein Versehen unterlaufen sein, denn das Bild kenne ich auch nicht. Der Printenmann aber ist von mir fotografiert. Mittels tineye konnte ich aber doch die Quelle finden, anscheinend ist dies Bild von Pixelio, siehe dieser Link (der nur 72 Stunden funktioniert) [15]. andy (talk) 22:46, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Danke für die Rückmeldung. --Túrelio (talk) 06:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Thailand districts[edit]

Andy, I found a dreadful list of provinces and Amphoe which prompted me to see if I could do better. The lists, as you see them, were the result. I think they are a good start for people to use as a research tool for articles etc.. Feel free to modify it, but I think that they are probably most useful as they stand now, with minor tweaks. I don't fully understand what you were saying in your post though, can you elucidate?Petebutt (talk) 16:06, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

P.S.keep up the good work, but can I just suggest using bulletted lists in future as they are far easier to read and use, see -Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists). Petebutt (talk) 16:31, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

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Ban Chiang[edit]

Please see my remarks at Talk:Ban Chiang. I think it should be re-named Ban Chiang Archaeological Site with the redirect going the other way, as the present article has nothing at all to say about the village. The article also needs a lot of work, and Khorat Plateau needs an archeology section. --Pawyilee (talk) 07:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

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"Dormer's Wells" - restart as WP:REDIRECT to Dormers Wells?[edit]

Hi Ahoerstemeier!
You deleted Dormer's Wells way back in 2005:

17:54, 12 June 2005 Ahoerstemeier (talk | contribs) deleted "Dormer's Wells" ‎ (content was: '{{d}}Well none for its school of the same name.')

With the (incorrect) apostrophe, it gets "About 14,900 results" in a Google search, so it would appear to be a plausible redirect. OK to so do?
--Shirt58 (talk) 10:27, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Background: noticed it as a "requested article" when I was at Special:RecentChanges -s58

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File:Italy template.png - verifying license[edit]

Hey - you uploaded this image a really long time ago. Like, when the internet was so old that youtube and facebook didn't exist. And you never explicitly released it under a license - it was GFDL presumed, which is how it was carried over to commons. Can I have you verify you agree with the license on that page? It would be quite helpful to have something (rather than just delete it for lacking a license), given that there are about a bajillion images that are a derivative of it. Magog the Ogre (talk) 05:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Of course, back at those times there was no explicit licensing for the images, thus it was implicitly GFDL. And also CCBYSA in all their versions are fine with me. andy (talk) 11:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

YesY Done Thanks! As you can see, commons no longer accepts implicit licenses: {{GFDL-presumed}}, so I just wanted to check. Magog the Ogre (talk) 19:57, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

List of districts in Thailand[edit]

A bit of a late reply, never mind. If you look closely the tables i develped address most of your concerns, with the exception of splitting the tables by region or province. I feel that is not a big issue as anybody researching could open all the pages sort tem all by what they require, copy the relevant bits and paste them in a word processor for delectation. Now i have written this it would be a good idea to see if they are still extant.Petebutt (talk) 14:36, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


Hallo Andy, das en:Portal:Thailand scheint ja in einen langjährigen Winterschlaf verfallen zu sein, so wende ich mich an dich. In Thonburi Kingdom wird auf einen Prinzen Sakwangburi verwiesen, eines Ortes, den es so nicht zu geben scheint. Der Historie nach zu schließen könnte es sich um Sankhaburi in Chainat handeln. Oder hast du eine andere Idee? --media_lib (talk) 02:57, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Bei Terwiel ([16]) taucht Sawangkhaburi auf. Sollte es sich um einen alten Namen für Swankhalok handeln? --media_lib (talk) 03:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

สวรรคบุรี war wohl eines der vielen Mueang, und auch den Titel "Prinz Sawankhaburi" findet sich z.B. auf der [:th:บรรดาศักดิ์ไทย Thai Wikipedia] erwaehnt. Aber wo es genau war, und ob es in einem modernen Amphoe einen Nachfolger gefunden hat konnte ich leider mit Google noch nicht richtig finden - manche Stellen sehen so aus als waere es Sankhaburi, was aber auch ein Schreibfehler sein kann da nur ein ว den Unterschied macht. Auf [17] dagegen findet sich เมืองสวรรคบุรี (อำเภอสวรรคโลก). Die Namensaenderung muss aber schon vor ca. 1900 gewesen sein, in der Royal Gazette findet sich keinerlei Sawankhaburi [ausser eine Stelle wo es ein Schreibfehler ist und Sankhaburi meinte]. andy (talk) 22:31, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Auf einer Mirrorseite der TAT fand ich folgendes:
"About 20 kilometers from Uttaradit town in the compound of Wat Phra Fang Swangkhamuninat is the location of Swangkhamuni or Fang City in the Sukhothai Period (late 13th - 15th centuries). During the Thonburi Period (1767-1782), a rebellious group led by Chao Phra Fang gathered in his city and declared its liberation from King Taksinof Thonburi Kingdom. "
Scheint also doch nicht Sankhaburi zu sein, wie ich zunaechst dachte. Hast du in diesem Zusammenhang irgendetwas zu Uttaradit? --media_lib (talk) 03:06, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Danke fuer die Hinweise. Commons hat wohl die Loesung: Sawang Kha Buri beim heutigen Wat Phra Fang [18]. Fuer eine vernuenftige Ontologie zur Thai-Geschichte brauchen wir auch die alten Orte (mit location) und Ortsnamen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Media lib (talkcontribs) 03:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
Nicht nur die Verbindung Ortsname und geografische Koordinate, viel schlimmer es braucht auch die zeitliche Koordinate. Nicht nur daß die Namen sich änderten, auch der Ort kann sich geändert haben. Da hatte ich vor langem auch mal was auf dem Blog zu geschrieben - die aktuellsten Beispiele wäre die Lage von Trang, was für einige Jahrzehnte (1896-1916) direkt an der Küste im heutigen Kantang lag und dann doch wieder zurück ins Landesinnere verlagert wurde, der Lak Mueang steht noch dort wo die Stadt vor diesen Verlagerungen war. andy (talk) 11:28, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Kavieng Wharf Massacre[edit]

In doing a search for "Kavieng" I found that in June 2005 the article title "Kavieng Wharf Massacre" was deleted by you and I am very interested why this happened. I am not the author of the original page nor have I ever read it but would be very interested to do so. Eagerly awaiting a reply Bunyip007 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bunyip007 (talkcontribs) 00:19, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

I deleted it back then because it was just an editing experiment - the only contents was "he". So in case you want to start that article, feel free to do so. andy (talk) 12:04, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

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File:Lower saxony nom.png[edit]

Hi Andy! Thanks for contributing so much as well as for creating the File:Lower saxony nom.png! However, I found a little flaw in the file an hope that you can help: The village w:de:Fürstenhagen (Uslar) is an exclave of the city of Uslar. This can be seen on this map (bottom left part): w:de:Datei:Uslar in NOM.svg, and it is also included in this map: w:de:Datei:Uslar in Hannover 1905.png. I hope that you can fix this - and if you could also include the new file here this would be fantastic: w:de:Datei:Lower saxony nom.png! Thank you very much and best wishes! -- Purple acid (talk) 06:10, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Nong Khai Province[edit]

Hallo. Hast Du nicht gerade noch ne aktuelle SVG-Version der neuen Thailand Nong Khai locator map greifbar, nachdem Bueng Kan abgetrennt wurde? Da steht noch immer die alte drin. --hdamm (talk) 09:47, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Es müssen eigentlich alle 76 Karten aktualisiert werden, denn in jeder fehlt ja die neue Grenzlinie. Das SVG welches ich für Bueng Kan hochgeladen habe ist schon so vorbereitet daß dort alle Provinzen als Fläche drin sind und nur das jeweils rot gefärbte aktualisiert werden muss. Für Nong Khai habe ich das aber jetzt schon fertig gemacht. andy (talk) 10:52, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Ok, danke. Werde mich wohl erst am Wochenende um den Rest kümmern können... --hdamm (talk) 11:48, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Danke für die Ergänzungen. Gibts eigentlich schon nen "Siegel der Provinz" von Bueng Kan? --hdamm (talk) 17:25, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Ich habe noch keines gesehen, das einzige in der Richtung war bisher der Slogan der Provinz, und ob der schon offiziell ist konnte ich auch nicht klaeren. Keine Angst, wann immer ich neues finde kommt es ins Blog und wenns halbwegs passt auch in den Artikel hier. andy (talk) 22:14, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Das Runterladen und Ergänzen der Locator_Maps war ja eigentlich ganz einfach. Nur beim Hochladen nach Commons muss man viiiel Geduld haben. Zwischendurch hatte sich wohl auch der Server verabschiedet. Kannst Du bitte mal die File:Thailand Chachoengsao locator map.svg überprüfen, ob die neue Grenze da drin ist? Ich kriege die irgendwie nicht aktualisiert... --hdamm (talk) 14:38, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Im SVG ist sie drin, das PNG, welches daraus automagisch entsteht ist aber wohl noch falsch gepuffert. Aber auch nur die Version of Wikipedia, wenn man es auf Commons oeffnet ist es schon richtig. Also einfach etwas Geduld... andy (talk) 20:50, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Bueng Kan act[edit]

As requested, I will translate the followings and will post them in the English Wikisource as soon as possible:

  1. พระราชบัญญัติเทศบาล (Municipality Act)
  2. พระราชบัญญัติสภาตำบลและองค์การบริหารส่วนตำบล (Tambon Councils and Tambon Administrative Organisations Act)
  3. พระราชบัญญัติองค์การบริหารส่วนจังหวัด (Provincial Administrative Organisations Act)
  4. พระราชบัญญัติระเบียบบริหารราชการเมืองพัทยา (Phatthaya City Administrative Organisation Act)
  5. พระราชบัญญัติลักษณะปกครองท้องที่ (Local Administration Act)

Give me times, for I have to spend a lot of times attending university. But be sure that I won't take as long time as you would expect!

--Aristitleism (talk) 09:53, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Provinz Bueng Kan[edit]

Hallo. Ich wollte gerade die Karten der Amphoe bearbeiten, als mir auffiel, dass ich die bisherigen Karten (z.B. Amphoe 4304.svg ja nicht einfach einer neuen Kategorie zuordnen kann. Die haben doch bestimmt auch alle neue Nummern gekriegt? Werden die jetzt alle so durchnummeriert, wie sie in Bueng Kan Province unten aufgeführt sind? Kann ich zum Beispiel den Nummern in th:ไฟล์:บึงกาฬ.png trauen? --hdamm (talk) 10:02, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Leider nein, die Codes kommen von DOPA, sobald ich die finde gebe ich Bescheid. Einzig die 3801 fuer Mueang ist offensichtlich, auch wenn eigentlich ja auch die 38 (gut) geraten ist. andy (talk) 22:07, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

Phatthaya City Act[edit]

  1. I am here to inform you that, 2-3 minutes ago, I have just completed translating the "Administrative Organisation of Phatthaya City, BE 2542 (1999)" ("พระราชบัญญัติระเบียบบริหารราชการเมืองพัทยา พ.ศ. 2542").
  2. I have uploaded it, in pdf format with 64 pages, onto the Thai Wikisource. It will be there provisionally, until I proofread the translation and load its texts onto both the Thai and English Wikisources.
  3. So, take notice that the said translation is not yet proofread.
  4. It took three days to make this translation. I have finished the final exam for my third year in the university on April 8 and I started this work on April 11. I will complete the proofreading as soon as possible. April 13 (today) is traditional new year in Thailand and April 13-15 are declared official holidays, including April 16-17 (Saturday and Sunday). During that, I would go travelling and enjoying the festival. However, my summer courses will take place as from April 18. By this reason, I don't think I will be able to so complete within this period, but I will try and other translations will follow.
  5. Comments and suggestions are welcome.

--Aristitleism (talk) 04:50, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Here is the Table of Contents of the abovementioned Act, by sections. --Aristitleism (talk) 09:10, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks a lot, already in this draft state the translation is very helpful and interesting. I especially like the way it is displayed in the PDF with Thai and English next to each other, maybe I will learn a little bit more Thai by reading it. There is no need to hurry with polishing up this translation or any of the other ones I requested, do them as as your time and mood allows. And enjoy the Songkhran holidays now, but stay safe when traveling. By the way - do you have any idea whether the planned new special administrative areas, Mae Sot being the one to be created first, will use the same structure as within the Phattaya act with only the definition of the area being exchanged? andy (talk) 09:16, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
  1. I would like to lay your question aside and discuss otherwise. I have just noticed that the article "Bangkok Metropolitan Area" had been renamed to "Bangkok Metropolitan Region". I think that both names are not proper, for the following reasons:
    1. Literrally, the term "กรุงเทพมหานครและปริมณฑล" means "Bangkok Metropolis and Surrounding Provinces".
    2. In the legal documents, it is translated as "Bangkok and its Vicinity".
    3. As regards the Thai geographical units, the term "region" (translated as "ภาค") refers to a large group of Changwats as determined by the Royal Institute of Thailand (or by any person else whosoever). It conveys a meaning different from, and gives a narrower sense than, that in "Bangkok Metropolitan Region"; I mean the term "region" is inapplicable to this case, it should not be there.
  2. I would prefer, as used in the legal documents, "Bangkok and its Vicinity". How do you think about this?
Aristitleism (talk) 17:52, 13 April 2011 (UTC)


Hi, I am new to Wikipedia so I welcome any feedback, but I am not sure which links you mean? I have not placed any links that are not relevant to the topic or from an official source. I'd be happy to rectify it if you could be more specific? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cassianie (talkcontribs) 15:17, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

why did you delete this?[edit] - i was looking up Canon EOS Rebel T2 and it says that you deleted this. i am just wondering why was it deleted?

I deleted it in 2005, because at that time someone created the page with the sole contents "Canon EOS Rebel T2", same as the article name. Thus instead of leaving this editing experiment it was better to have the link get red again. andy (talk) 18:23, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Thesaban act[edit]

  1. Yes! Many translations of laws are sold in bookstores but most of them are "bad" and useless. While those which are quite "good" are unfortunately outdated for many laws are amended frequently. For many times have I encouraged the Council of State of Thailand to create a superb law website like that of Japan (, but they always ignore this.
  2. As for "Municipality Act", I am working on it (just for two or three hours ago) :)
  3. I've just notice the new contents on your blog about new courts in Bueng Kan. I have translated the following two laws and have them published in the English Wikisorce. (1) Royal Decree Modifying Jurisdiction of Bueng Kan Provincial Court, BE 2554 (2011). (2) Royal Decree Fixing Opening Date of Bueng Kan Provincial Court’s Juvenile and Family Division, BE 2554 (2011).

--Aristitleism (talk) 12:13, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

One Christmas[edit]


In 2005 you deleted the page One Christmas, a short story by Truman Capote. As a courtesy, I am letting you know that I intend to recreate the page so it meets, at a minimum, Start Class standards. As such it will have in-line citations from multiple, non-trivial published works. As such I think it would meet the guidelines for Wikipedia:Notability (books). In particular it would meet the "threshold standards", as well as criteria #1.

On a completely different note, I think A Diamond Guitar needs to go as it will never meet the guidelines above. I think I have marked it for deletion properly, but you seem to be an expert, so if you are inclined look it over, tag it, etc. per Wikipedia guidelines - that would be great. I put my rationale for deletion on the talk page.--Npd2983 (talk) 20:54, 8 June 2011 (UTC)


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Mueang Narathiwat District[edit]

Hallo. Kannst Du hier mal den Absatz Geschichte nachsehen bitte. Irgendwas stimmt mit den Namen da nicht, oder wurde ein Umbennenen vergessen? --hdamm (talk) 14:35, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

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Pattaya External Link[edit]

I have receive your massage from Pattaya . I do understand your point. However, the added link is not a junk page. It would be useful enough to help visitors know more about Pattaya. The followings are the reasons making this added link interesting:

- There are tons of photos that we cannot put it all in an article of Wikipedia. The photos presented seem to be from real places, where visitors would want to see before visiting Pattaya.

- The official website of Pattaya is not English language, and there are no other of the external links that offer a number of photos of places in Pattaya, while this added link can provide both.

- Apart from the images, the map of Pattaya in this website is not just an image map, but interactive. It is able to retrieve information from each place after clicking on a marker. This is even more useful for visitors who are after information about this Pattaya City. (At the moment, Wikipedia itself does not support this kind of map, I guess)

- I also notice that this website gives a backlink to wikipedia as the useful external source as well.

As long as the external link offers something useful and beyond basic information that wikipedia article can support, it could be fine, in my opinion.

Please give me back you opinion. Thank you. Arook.

Ps. The external link that called "Pattaya City Hall (Thai only)" has been gone, and you moght need to take care of it as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arookiecio (talkcontribs) 18:10, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Amphoe Kho Kha?[edit]

I want to add fossil finds to appropriate articles but can't find the, likely due to to transcription errors. --Pawyilee (talk) 06:59, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Lampang Province Cave Guide PDF extract

03. Amphoe Kho Kha

Tham Hat Pu Dai LA0030 47Q 535281 1993905 Khao Pah Nam, Doi Ta Ka, Ban Hat Pu Dai Other names: Tham Hat Pudui About 2 km from Ban Hat Pu Dai near Khao Pah Nam. The cave is in a highly dissected and weathered limestone tower. It is an important fossil site with remains of Homo erectus having been found in the cave. Dunkley (1995); Marwick (2009); Pope, et al. (1980); Pramankij & Subhavan (2001a), (2001b); Subhavan, et al. (2010) Pramankij, Somsak; Subhavan, Vudhana (2001a) "Preliminary Report on the Discovery of Evidence of the Oldest Hominids (2 million to 200,000 years old) in Thailand" Silpa Wattanatham Vol. 23 pp38- 47 (Thai) Pramankij, Somsak; Subhavan, Vudhana ( (2001b) "Report on Fossils from Hat Pu Dai, Northern Thailand" Siriraj Medical School, Mahidol University, unpublished report.

From tourist site — Hat Pu Dai City is located in Lampang, Thailand. Latitude and longitude are 18.0097° N and 99.3206° E.
See my edit at History_of_Isan#Prehistory --Pawyilee (talk) 07:08, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
47Q 0535281 1993905 is a coordinate in UTM system, and translates to 18,0333° N 99,3333° E (in WGS84, or 18,0360° N 99,3302° E if its in Thai Indian 1975), which is inside Tambon Na Kaeo, Ko Kha District. I'll work on making the non-informative article on the subdistrict Na Kaeo into a valid stub later. andy (talk) 09:09, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Revised "Prehistory" to lead with "Four ''[[Homo erectus]]'' [[fossil]] skull fragments found in northern Thailand's Hat Pudui cave ([[Ko Kha District]], Lampang Province)" and shortened the rest by removing slur. Have yet to add anything at all to northern Thai articles. --Pawyilee (talk) 14:27, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

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Your attitude[edit]

I don't know what your problem is, maybe we had a disagreement over infoboxes or district naming convention in the past or something I don't know but you are coming across as an arrogant dick. Its as if you actually own Thailand itself and nobody has a right to tread on your turf. I was actually thinking that the province articles need an extreme amount of work, just like I did with 11 provinces of Vietnam. I really don't like your tone or your treatment of me. And my stubs are half decent and properly formatted. I have every right to create stubs which are half decent even start class and I enjoy doing so. There is nothing wrong with them and starting a few smaller towns in a very poorly developed part of the world with sources is fine.. The stubs are not empty, they are sourced and at least contain some information. Its not surprising WP:Thailand which I started believe it or not has a distinct lack of contributors if you frighten everybody away who edits them. I've worked my ass off on articles in southeast Asia today and to cap it off a patronising, condescending jerk like you has to ruin it.♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Intentionally ignored by the "arrogant dick". I will no longer interact with this user. First time in 10 years of Wikipedia someone choose to be so impolite with my trying for good quality article here. andy (talk) 23:15, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Muang Sing ‎ is already well on its way to GA and just hours old and I spent at least half hour finding photos and upkloading to improve quality. This is what angers me, that you lecture about "quality" in a smug wise ass manner as if you are a greater editor and being. There is a difference between wanting good quality and insulting somebody who works hard at also trying to achieve it and trying to address systematic bias which is an equally bad problem. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:20, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

The way you carried on at me yesterday was as if you only produced FAs and GAs and was some quality official on wikipedia or something. Mueang Yala District is completely unsourced! I appreciate the efforts you've made on Thai districts as a start, consistency is a great thing on wikipedia and I thankyou for that but they should all be sourced, luckily most seem to be. Maybe if you started treating me with some respect and offering ways I could improve articles and help find good sources I would return the favour and we could produce something good on here. But bitching about me on your blog and mocking anything I've done towards Thai article makes you appear even worse.♦ Dr. Blofeld 23:19, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

You are writing the same nonsense again - Sateng is NO town at all, it is a subdistrict, the town is called Yala and happens to cover the same area as the subdistrict. andy (talk) 08:38, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Page has been moved to Yala, Thailand. Thanks for sourcing the district. Do you have a reliable source to support Sateng Nok now also has town status? I want to ensure I'm not talking "nonsense" per se.♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:38, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Royal Gazette official announcement: "ประกาศกระทรวงมหาดไทย เรื่อง เปลี่ยนแปลงฐานะเทศบาลตำบลสะเตงนอก อำเภอเมืองยะลา จังหวัดยะลา เป็นเทศบาลเมืองสะเตงนอก" (PDF). Royal Gazette (in Thai). 129 (พิเศษ 13 ง): 46. 2012-01-11.  - as mentioned on my blog few days ago.[19] And from the map in that announcement you can also get the location of the municipal office, to be used for the geolocation of the article : 6.5341 N 101.3110 E andy (talk) 11:20, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Cheers, thanks for that (and formatting it).♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:32, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I see what you mean about a lot of the places its difficult to find anything solid on themand if it only contains population and number of villages, no more than in the amphoe article then its not much use really. The best thing I think would be to expand the province and district articles and only start those you can find something half decent on. Are there any provinces or districts in particular you want expanded?♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:17, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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great work. S1id3r0 (talk) 15:34, 31 January 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview[edit]

Dear Ahoerstemeier,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

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De-adminship at Thai wikipedia[edit]

Hi Andy. Long time no see. Recently there is some discussion by Thai Arbcom about de-admin of inactive administrators with less than 50 edits/year. I think your may not be aware of this because the notification is in your Talk Page at Thai wikipedia. Please go to take a look. --Lerdsuwa (talk) 23:38, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Greetings. Thai Wikipedia Arbitration Committee has voted 4-1 on the removal of Administrator due to the said above guidelines. More notification may be found on your talk page at Thai Wikipedia, as pointed out by K.Lerdsuwa. Should you wish to prolong your tools, you may participate in the discussion here, or you may let us know here. If there is no response within 14 days after the current timestamp, the ArbCom clerk will ask the steward to have the sysop and/or bureaucrat rights removed. Regards, --G(x) (talk) 02:24, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
I have answered on my Thai user talk page. andy (talk) 08:50, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

Science lovers wanted![edit]

Science lovers wanted!
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Hi! I'm serving as the wikipedian-in-residence at the Smithsonian Institution Archives until June! One of my goals as resident, is to work with Wikipedians and staff to improve content on Wikipedia about people who have collections held in the Archives - most of these are scientists who held roles within the Smithsonian and/or federal government. I thought you might like to participate since you are interested in the sciences! Sign up to participate here and dive into articles needing expansion and creation on our to-do list. Feel free to make a request for images or materials at the request page, and of course, if you share your successes at the outcomes page you will receive the SIA barnstar! Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to your participation! Sarah (talk) 19:46, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

Royal City of Sia-Yut'hia[edit]

Hey! Glad to see you here. Tried and failed to contact you at ChAT. The Siamese-American Treaty of Amity and Commerce was concluded on Wednesday, the last of the fourth month of the year 1194 [of the Traditional Burmese calendar,] called Pi-marong-chat-tavasok, or the year of the Dragon, corresponding to the 20th day of March, in the year of our Lord 1833 ... at the Royal City of Sia-Yut'hia (commonly called Bangkok.) Unfortunately, I have not found a legible copy of the Thai-Pourtugese-Chinese text. History_of_Bangkok#Rattanakosin now has a quote from the journal of Edmund Roberts (diplomat)

The spot on which the present capital stands, and the country in its vicinity, on both banks of the river for a considerable distance, were formerly, before the removal of the court to its present situation, called Bang-kok ; but since that time, and for nearly sixty years past, it has been named Sia yuthia, (pronounced See-ah you-tè-ah, and by the natives, Krung, that is, the capital ;) it is called by both names here, but never Bang-kok ; and they always correct foreigners when the latter make this mistake. The villages which occupy the right hand of the river, opposite to the capital, pass under the general name of Bang-kok.

My wife says that 40 years ago when she was a child in Bangkok, she and others from Isan called it "Muang Khung."

PS Assuming I've got your attention, what do you think about Suwannaphum District having been founded in 1718 as the first Lao muang in the Chi valley — and indeed anywhere in the interior of the Khorat Plateau? --Pawyilee (talk) 08:49, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

PPS Regarding the Smithsonian notice, above, Harris Treaty of 1856 with Siam cites their National Museum of Natural History exhibition of Royal Gifts from Thailand. --Pawyilee (talk) 09:15, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

like the unsolved mystery of the ever return to a beginning of something which has no locatable beginning very much like the beginning of the known universe, which as having proved the unlikeliness of the existence of God still provides an impossible to conceive of sequence by which some factor outside of everyday human conceiving is surmised to have been the cause presumed as possibly a supreme being / request for the first source for the banknotes article as this would be good to know[edit]

Hello (and hope you like the title) - haven't checked the article history so don't know if this is added already but,as the first editor-lucky user of Banknotes, would be really great if the source for the information was added, as had been thinking of just adding a temporary bandage to the slight injury to the mind of imagining the orign of the article, as of the earliest locatable internet source for the info-; at the time of writing, this is The Saturday magazine, Volume 18 - J. W. Parker, 1841; my own just being ISBN 1853752924 (probably),

sincerely, Largehole (talk) 12:07, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Your input is requested[edit]

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Request to take part in a survey[edit]

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WLM 2013 in Thailand[edit]

Hi Ahoerstemeier,

Thank you for signing up to help organise "Wiki loves monuments 2013 in Thailand." We are only one week away from the competition but we haven't had any confirmed juries or awards from any external partners we contacted.

There are several aspects that non-Thai speakers like you can help. w:th:วิกิพีเดีย:ศาลาชุมชน/อภิปราย/Wiki loves monuments 2013 in Thailand

  1. If you think you can be a jury or know someone who is willing to do the task, please let us know by signing up to be a jury section of the page.
  2. There is a ongoing discussion about jury tool on If you know well about technical stuff and could help jury make use of it, that would be great. There are a number of other technical issues discussed in the list. We might have only a short period of time to get the Thai WLM up to date with the technology there.
  3. If you can provide some awards or know someone who is willing to do so, please put let us know in Prizes section of the page.

--Taweetham (talk) 04:05, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

Invitation to join the Ten Year Society[edit]

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Abschnitt Verwaltung in den DE-Amphoe-Artikeln[edit]


Wenn Du mal Zeit hast, könntest Du mal bei de:Benutzer Diskussion:Hdamm#Abschnitt Verwaltung in den Amphoe-Artikeln vorbei kucken und vielleicht Deinen Senf dazugeben? Danke. Tschöh --hdamm (talk) 16:28, 17 June 2014 (UTC)


Hallo. Vielleicht kannst Du das noch in Dein Tambon-Tool einbauen: Wenn esweniger als 1000 Einwohner in der WikiTable gibt, benutzt Du im Moment (jedenfalls meine Version) noch zweimal Vorlage:0 Besser: Template:0 (siehe Beispiele) Tschöh --hdamm (talk) 10:54, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Noch was: in der Vorlage:Cite_web wäre irgendwo ein "language=Thai" noch schön. Passt in de und en. Außerdem geht im Moment in de-Wiki ein User rum und fügt dort auch noch ein "accessdate=" ein. --hdamm (talk) 11:03, 26 June 2014 (UTC)


Hallo. Ich habe mal einen Thread in de:Diskussion:Amphoe gestartet. Vielleicht kannst Du dort ja auch noch etwas beitragen? --hdamm (talk) 07:54, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Schon wieder ist Deine Unterstützung gefragt. Kuck doch mal bitte hier: de:Diskussion:Si Saket (Provinz). --hdamm (talk) 15:31, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Thai province names[edit]

I just noticed that the spacing of the names of some provinces (those ending with buri) in Wikipedia doesn't match the official spelling given by the Royal Institute.[20] Should something be done about it? --Paul_012 (talk) 12:50, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Feel free to move them, but then don't forget to move the Mueang district articles accordingly. On Wikidata I have set them all with the recommended spelling as the primary English name already. andy (talk)
Since it seemed quite a major change, I've filed an RM at Talk:Buriram#Requested moves. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:33, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

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Source of your files[edit]

Hello, Your maps like c:File:Amphoe 6602.png (and about 1400 similar files) has no source defined. Is them your own work? I will add the source by bot if you define them. Thanks :)Ladsgroupoverleg 10:30, 19 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes, I made them myself, however most of them are already superseded by SVG versions like c:File:Amphoe 6602.svg. andy (talk) 10:43, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks I added the source and the information template. :)Ladsgroupoverleg 15:00, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi again these files are not map and you haven't explicitly determined that they are your own work (you mentioned name of the photographer in some of them but not any source) If it's possible please add proper source to them or confirm that these are your own work :)Ladsgroupoverleg 17:13, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Trang_Lak_Mueang_1.jpg, Trang_Lak_Mueang_inside.jpg and Everglades_salt_marsh_plant.jpg are photos taken by myself, and they already have me as Author in the template. Chumphon_typhoon_damage_1.jpg, Chumphon_typhoon_damage_2.jpg and Chumphon_typhoon_damage_4.jpg are photos by H. Pollmeier, who back in 2004 uploaded them to a forum on Thailand (today the photos no longer show), and allowed me to upload them to Wikipedia. I don't have his message allowing me to upload anymore however, wasn't done in the public part of that forum. The other photos on that to check page I probably moved from Wikipedia manually, but they also have the user set in the author field who uploaded them originally, so I don't see any problem with them. andy (talk) 17:25, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying :)Ladsgroupoverleg 22:41, 26 February 2015 (UTC)[edit]


Ja, mich gibts immer noch. Aber immer noch ziemlich gehandikapt...

Sag mal, hast Du irgendwelche aktuelle Informationen über Seit Tagen kann der Server "nicht gefunden" werden... Gibt's vielleicht ne Alternative?

--hdamm (talk) 11:11, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

@Hdamm: Scheint - nachdem die Daten viele Jahre nicht schon nicht aktualisiert wurden - abgeschaltet worden zu sein. Es gibt noch aber auch das ist seit 2011 nicht mehr aktualisiert worden, und braucht das schon antike Silverlight plugin - und hatte mehr Infos. Wenn du nur die Texte aus brauchst, die hatte ich mir wohlweislich gesichert, darfst du dir gerne unter abholen :-) andy (talk) 12:08, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
@Ahoerstemeier: - Danke für den Link.
Ich war eigentlich grade dabei, hier und da die Weblinks auf Gültigkeit zu prüfen, als mir das auffiel. So ein Link steht ja auf de-Wiki auf (fast) allen Thai-Verwaltungs-Seiten ;-)
--hdamm (talk) 12:38, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
@Hdamm: Übrigens - ist wieder online, war also wohl nicht abgeschaltet, sondern nur ein besonders fähiger Webmaster. andy (talk) 11:12, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
@Ahoerstemeier: Klasse! Das erspart mir ja ne Menge Arbeit. Danke für den Hinweis. --hdamm (talk) 12:26, 28 November 2015 (UTC)

Erasmus Prize[edit]

I noticed you working on it on Wikidata. You might be interested in User:Multichill/Erasmus Prize. Multichill (talk) 20:48, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

@Multichill: Now all the award winners have been linked on Wikidata and have the point in time qualifier set, so your bot generated page should be complete now. andy (talk) 11:14, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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@Potapt: Thanks for letting me know, I haven't heard about that one yet. Will try to write up something for the blog - but would have to find more information first, that short article e.g. doesn't mention which Amphoe are supposed to form that province. andy (talk) 15:01, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

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Thesaban & SAOs[edit]

Thanks for clearing up that thesaban are, indeed, just another kind of municipality. However, the confusing comes in on the article for thesaban in that the very first line says that "Thesabans are the municipalities of Thailand." which at least seems to imply the word "only." SAOs are listed on the Organization of the government of Thailand article, and under the local government section of the article, but in fact only in passing and then they are grouped with the provincial administrative organisations (PAO) which seemingly implies they are something different than the city, town and subdistrict municipalities to be included seperate from them. The implication is that they are simple administrative divisions, and in most countries this usually means they aren't municipal organizations and are usually overseen by unelected/appointed officials and/or councils.

My suggestion would be one of a few things: We can either simply move the mention of the "5,335 subdistrict administrative organisations - SAO" to the section on the "Organization of the government of Thailand" article to the subsection listing the city, town and subdistrict municipalities and/or transform and rename the "Thesaban" page into "Municipalities of Thailand" or some such title which would include the SAOs with the thesabans. I'm not going to do this myself, as I'd definitely want to be sure someone with more knowledge of the country does it. Because as it stands now, the SAOs are seperated out in such a way that the implication is that they are little more than the administrative subdistricts (further subdivided into villages), as opposed to a municipal layer of government like the citys, towns, and subdistricts municipalities which overlay the administrative subdistricts. It would seem it's be important to make clear that every part of the country is both within an administrative division (province, subdistrict, or village) save for the two "special local governments," and a city, town, subdistrict municipality or SAO. This would seem a pretty simple thing to be added. Let me know what you think. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:18, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh, and both muban (village) and SAOs are not listed on the Template:Administrative divisions of Thailand. That's something I could in fact do myself, but just want approval from someone more familiar with the country. It also reiterates the need to include SAOs on redone thesaban article (either that or give them their own article, but that seems a bit of an extreme measure) so there could be a link to them like there are to the other municipalities. --Criticalthinker (talk) 11:26, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

I don't know whether its correct to subsume SAO with Thesaban - at least from a legal point of view both are regulated by totally different laws, the municipal act is only about the Thesaban, and the SAO and Subdistrict Council act about those two structures, and of course there's also the PAO act on the PAO. As you can see e.g. in the graphic in my blog posting on the numbers of entities in 2016, the government lists the local governments by type, only the three Thesaban levels are also summed together. The reason I said that the SAO are a kind of Thesaban was simply to make clear those are at the same administrative level, together with Pattaya. Bangkok as the second special administration is totally different however as it is a merge of both province and local administration. andy (talk) 14:50, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Like I said, the municipalities article doesn't need to be changed, but it's my opinion that it does need to be made more clear that the SAOs have been granted a local government function. I find this very similiar to my own state in the U.S. Here in Michigan we have municipal corporations (cities and villages), but we also have statutory local administrative divisions (townships) which are granted local government by the state. While they are governed by different acts by the state and each have their own associations, they are all generally grouped as local governments which cover the entire territory of the state.
As the article here currently stands, as it is written, it isn't made clear that SAOs are a local government in the same respect as a thesaban, with the difference being only who oversees the two types of local government. We don't have to subsume SAOs with thesaban, but I gave other ideas about how these things could be clarified above. More than that, another issue I raised was the template of administrative divisions, which is missing muban and SAOs. --Criticalthinker (talk) 09:38, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
To kind of drive home how confusing the article is for the Organization of the government of Thailand, it skips in an out of municipal and local government and administrative subdivisions. For instance, all administrative subdivisions of provinces should be listed under the "Provincial government" subsection. Instead, that subsection speaks of the Province, and then that they are divided into districts, but does not then go on to say the districts are further divided into subdistricts and those into municipalities. When you get to the first mention of subdistricts and villages, it's in the "Local government" section, and then only in passing, so it's not even made clear that they are administrative divisions as they are mixed in with discussion on the thesaban.
I think the big problem is that the focus of the page is different than how many articles on wikipedia treat subdivisions and local government. Most articles on issues of local government are titled "(Administrative) Subdivisions of (Name of Country)." The article is usually concerned primarily with explaining how most of the country is divided, usually outside the urban areas. In this case, a section titled "Adminstrative subdivisions" on the article would probably be the best way to do this, and then split into subsection of provinces, districts, subdistricts and villages. Now, it countries with incorporated municipal local governments and/or local government in general regardless of incorporated municipalities - primarily for the urban areas, but not always - the articles usually either include a seperate section lower on the page, and/or that entire issue is given its own page "Local Government in (Name of Country)." In this case, this is where you'd talk about the three different types of thesaben, the SAOs (simply making note that they general correspond to administrative subdistricts), and then maybe the two special case cities, though those could go on either section or article. Anyway, just trying to give you an idea about how confusing the current articles look to an outsider used to dealing with administrative subdivisions and local government pages. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

Nui Ketsarin[edit]

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Need help in explaining names[edit]

Hi. I'm having trouble explaining how "Phu Tabberg" is a variant spelling of "Phu Thap Boek" to User:KusiD, who insists that they are different mountains. As a German speaker, I thought perhaps you might be able to help? The conversation is at Talk:Phu Thap Boek#Move the page !!. Thanks in advance. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:48, 3 August 2018 (UTC)