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Doumtaz vfr over the top[edit]

I wrote yesterday about vfr over the top...

I saw you erased it and the resons why ..

I just wanted to say that the information was real ...reference to the CAR 602.116 transport canada I understand that there were to many mistakes on the spealing a french persone sorry...for 5 lines, at least you could have help me to correct it. and maybe ask me for the reference.

I did put interesting informtion but because of my english you erased it so i will find a text witout mistakes instead of writing it myself


Dominic VFR ATC officer for the canadien forces. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doumtaz215 (talkcontribs) 02:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

If you think it needs to be added in detail I can add the specific requirements, but the danger here is that to make it non-centric to any one country we will have to find and add the rules for other countries as well. The AIM has sufficient text for this, but I just don't think given WP:NOTMANUAL that its is justified. - Ahunt (talk) 03:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

yes i understand that it could be a list of links for different contry references instead of all in the page...thanks for answering —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doumtaz215 (talkcontribs) 15:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Opinion Polling typo[edit]

Thanks for correcting that error, User:Ahunt. It was just a simple typo on my part. Thanks for catching it. Bkissin (talk) 13:34, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem - collaboration works!! - Ahunt (talk) 13:58, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Huey article[edit]

Appreciate your improvements on my recent content. Haven't see you around the aviation articles. You should show up more often, your background is useful. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE 15:58, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, glad that was helpful. Actually I have done quite a bit on the UH-1 articles, but not as recently, since we got them somewhat whipped into shape a year or two ago. The UH-1H/N series is of interest to me as I have about 3500 hours flying them. - Ahunt (talk) 16:00, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
You must be ancient, hahha. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE 17:09, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Probably! I flew them between 1982 and 2000. Lots are still in service, though. - Ahunt (talk) 18:32, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Puppy Linux et al[edit]

I'm impressed by Puppy Linux, but blown away by your blog(s). After all these months Chrome OS watching, it's nice to fill in the dots from a fellow editor. I don't have anything that extensive, here's a capsule description. As for Puppy Linux, will have to try, at least as a rainy day project. Thanks for the info! Barte (talk) 02:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Washington Post Article?[edit]

Knee-jerk removing a prod is not helpful to Wikipedia.[1] Which "Washington Post article" are you referring to? Did you actually read the article to see if the company was the subject of the article as opposed to being a passing mention? Jehochman Talk 16:16, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. Of course I read the article, I was in the middle of editing it when you Proded it. My mistake: it was Washington Business Journal, plus Biodiesel Magazine that are cited. The Prod was contested, so thank you for taking it to AfD instead as that is really the best venue for considering this. - Ahunt (talk) 16:19, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Yes, either the sources will be found and the article kept, or else it will go! Thank you for your understanding. It looks like somebody affiliated with the company created the article. Now they want it to go, but are discovering that once created, it can be hard to get rid of a Wikipedia article. File this in the "be careful what you wish for" box. Happy editing, Jehochman Talk
Common problem, I am afraid. I just randomly blundered across it today and thought it could be improved. - Ahunt (talk) 16:29, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Triumph Group Article[edit]

I would like to put the under construction link back in "Triumph Group" to prompt more users to add to the article.Jax 0677 (talk) 00:17, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note. Actually the under construction template is supposed to discourage other editors from editing it - it is designed to give you "breathing space" and is only supposed to be left on for an hour or two. - Ahunt (talk) 00:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Then away it goes :) Thank you very much for all of your help kind sir!--Jax 0677 (talk) 00:18, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
No problem, the best way to get others to edit it is to post about it on relevant Wikiprojects! - Ahunt (talk) 00:20, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Just to clarify, {{inuse}} is the one that is to discourage anyone else from editing the article for a short period, usully under an hour. {{underconstruction}} is intended to be used over the period of a week or so to indicate that the article is in an unfinished state, and that several editors are, or are intendting to, work in it substantially during that period. In the state the article currently is in, {{expand section}} tags probably work best for attracting attention. - BilCat (talk) 00:24, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification, Bill! - Ahunt (talk) 00:25, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Pop's Props Pinocchio[edit]

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Attack helicopter vs gunship[edit]

I would be interested to know what you opinion or rather your understanding of the difference is. Are you aware of any authoritative discussions of the definitions of these two categories? --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE 12:51, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

That is an interesting question, let me consult my library here and see if I can find any refs and post back here. - Ahunt (talk) 12:56, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Okay I have dug though my library and here is what I have found. First off I didn't locate any definitive debate over either term in any publication I have. Some books use just one term, "armed helicopter", "attack helicopter" or "gunship".
The definitive document on official US military use is the DOD Dictionary of Military Terms. The only term it defines is Antiarmour helicopter which doesn't help much, although it does tend to lend credibility to the idea that none of "armed helicopter", "attack helicopter" or "gunship" are officially used terms, at least in present day US military usage.
I did find three authoritative books that use both "armed helicopter" and "gunship". These are:
  • Drendel, Lou, Gunslingers in Action, Squadron/Signal Publications, 1974, ISBN 0-89747-013-3
  • Mesko, Jim, Airmobile - The Helicopter War in Vietnam, Squadron/Signal Publications, 1984, ISBN 0-89747-159-8
  • Zaloga, Steven J., ATA: Helicopter Dogfighting, published in Advanced Combat Helicopters - Evolving Roles, Motorbooks Intl, 1988 ISBN 0-87938-299-6
All three of these books use the terms "armed helicopter" and "gunship" interchangeably to refer to both purpose-designed attack helicopters and other helicopters that have had armament added. Mesko in particular notes that in the early stages of the Vietnam War that when the first UH-1s were armed their role was referred to as escorts for the troop-carrying helicopters. He then states "Eventually the term 'escort' was dropped in favor of 'gunship' or the nickname 'hog'." Drendal pointedly refers to the early developments of the Bell 207 Sioux Scout and the AH-1G as "helicopter gunships".
I hope that helps you resolve this issue. - Ahunt (talk) 18:03, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Good job, yet it doesn't clear things up. We still have three articles that conflict in my view, and my opinion is the minority and possibly incorrect. I never viewed purpose-built armed helicopters as gunships, but rather attack helicopters, because they do nothing else and are so conceived by design. Armed helicopters are in some ways a misnomer, since all military helicopters are armed (even utility, e.g., UH-60, CH-47). "Gunships" to me are helicopters modified to carry out an attack role (e.g., UH-1B, Kiowa Warrior, UH-60 Penetrator, AH-6). I consider the Mi-24 a gunship, though iy may borderline an attack helicopter, was a modified Mi-8 design. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE 18:13, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Well the refs I found seem to support that any offensively armed helicopter can be called a gunship, whether purpose-designed or bolt-on, but since the terms are not "official doctrine" I don't think you will find a definitive answer, just different writer's opinions. My own personal feeling is that "gunship" is pretty much slang and therefore should be avoided in the encyclopedia, except to indicate that the term is used. - Ahunt (talk) 18:20, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Based on historic progression I do believe that an attack helicopter is a category unto itself. I think it can be shown to be a separate and purposeful departure from merely arming a utility helicopter. The lack of personnel carrying capability, the dedicated mission, and the design for reduced vulnerability all set this type apart. I think armed helicopters such as I listed above, are a separate category.....and GUNSHIP may be a term with only historical significance during Vietnam. Of course we'd need sources. Identifying an AH-1 as a gunship, I believe, is totally incorrect given it was totally stripped (vs UH-1B) and configured for attack role only. Using UH-1 drive train does not make it a gunship. The gunship article being sthe smallest, might be the one to analyze. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE 18:53, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome[edit]

Dear Sir,

I am mainly a contributor on the French wikipedia as you may notice, but from time to time I modify the English wikipedia. I see that you are a glider pilot as I am. Are you an active contributor on soaring topics? Also, when I translate an English article into French, I need to cross reference the Wikipedia. The comments that I leave are in French. There are some languages that I totally do not know like chinese or russian. So, I cannot leave a comment in these languages. It is the reason why I leave comments in French in these circumstances. I hope that it is OK. Again thank you for your message. Malosse (talk) 03:24, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Rans S-6 Coyote II[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 12:03, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Dream Tundra[edit]

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Some wings![edit]

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You are hereby awarded a pair of Wikiwings for a complete set of Rans Designs aircraft articles, top job! - Nimbus (Cumulus nimbus floats by) 01:50, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very kindly! - Ahunt (talk) 01:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


thanks for the welcome i would appreciate feed back seeing as I am trying to create a AC Airways site —Preceding unsigned comment added by Capadouca (talkcontribs) 02:09, 30 November 2010 (UTC) I guess the company will not be notable until it is on the langley airport website....... how about fundraisers for charity and being involved in public media such as a radio station if that is documented independantly?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capadouca (talkcontribs)

DYK for Rans S-11 Pursuit[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 06:03, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Rans S-12 Airaile[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 00:02, 6 December 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for moving and sorting out AIRCRASH. MilborneOne (talk) 22:50, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

You may be interested in [[2]] although nobody has mentioned it to those involved. MilborneOne (talk) 17:25, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks! - Ahunt (talk) 18:06, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
I have made a comment at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) about AIRCRASH I wasnt aware that a project guideline needed this amount of scrutiny I thought as long as we had consensus within the project then it was our call! MilborneOne (talk) 21:47, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your note, that was my understanding as well. It is still only a "guideline" and not a "policy". - Ahunt (talk) 21:56, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Helicopters in Canada[edit]

Thnaks for finding the FlightGlobal archive ref - great tool! Btw, do you know if MBB/Eurocopter ever fully produced Bo 105s in Canada? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 01:13, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Bill, glad that helped. Yes MBB did produce the Bo-105LS and S in Canada, the Canadian Coast Guard still have 14 of them. - Ahunt (talk) 02:07, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Improper speedy deletion tag removal[edit]

Hi, can you explain this edit? You removed my proper speedy deletion tagging of that category. Your assertion that it is a "useful" category and demanding me to bring it to CFD is groundless. I should also note that, as a non-administrator, you shouldn't remove speedy deletion tags unless they are unambiguously improperly added. I clearly explained why this category is not exempt from C1, so you had absolutely no reason to remove the tag, particularly as it was anything but a clear-cut improper tagging so as a non-administrator you shouldn't have done so yourself. If you do not revert yourself, I intend to take this to WP:ANI, as I feel you have acted improperly. (talk) 19:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

A non-page creator can remove a CSD tag and there is nothing improper with challenging a speedy tag and asking you to take it to WP:CFD. If you want to discuss this global subject of aircraft categories on which a lot of recent work has been done, then I suggest you take it to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft rather than running around threatening people. And I would also suggest that you open an account, as it makes established editors take you more seriously. - Ahunt (talk) 20:03, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
I don't dispute that non-admins can remove a CSD tag, but I'm fairly sure they are only supposed to remove obvious cases where the tag was improper or no longer applies. My tagging does not fall under that description, so you should have left it for an admin. As for discussing the actual merits of the category itself, I have no interest in that. I didn't tag the category based on its content, only based on the fact it is empty and doesn't meet any of the exceptions to deleting empty categories. It could very well be a valuable, useful category if populated. I wouldn't object to keeping it at all if it had category members. The category shouldn't be created until it is ready to be populated, however. Empty categories can be confusing to editors and can cause clutter if empty categories are allowed to be kept indefinitely, hence the very purpose of having a C1 speedy deletion criteria. It appears as if you are not willing to revert yourself, so I will be bringing this issue to ANI shortly. (talk) 20:16, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Of course I am well within normal procedures to remove the tag and ask you to take it for discussion at CFD. Why don't you cut the threats, open an actual account, so we know who you are and start discussing this with the editors who are involved in creating these categories at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft. What is the all-out hurry that this has to be deleted today by an IP address editor? - Ahunt (talk) 20:30, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Bwuh? Oh, sorry. I hadn't even realised I had created the category myself, it's been so long. Apologies all around on this. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:55, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


Managerved has uploaded a few images and text quoting an OTRS ticket please see User_talk:VernoWhitney#User:Managerved for your info. MilborneOne (talk) 22:38, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! - Ahunt (talk) 15:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)


Thanks! - Ahunt (talk) 15:54, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

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Looks like it was replaced by another logo, so go ahead and delete it. - Ahunt (talk) 18:03, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

RFC/N discussion of the username "Flyingved"[edit]

Information.svg A request for comment has been filed concerning the username of Flyingved (talk · contribs). You are invited to comment on the discussion here. Soundvisions1 (talk) 18:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Bzuk (talk) 15:26, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Apology (Aurora aircraft article)[edit]

I apologize for my ill-informed and under-researched edits. I shall strive to not let it happen again. However, if the current introductory sentence is indeed true, it seems to be a bit misleading. From the article title, it can inferred that "Aurora" is the name of an aircraft, while the intro sentence claims it is an urban legend. If it is in general consensus that "Aurora" is the name of the urban legend itself as opposed to the subject of an urban legend, then I recommend a less confusing title. Eridani (talk) 09:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)


Can you please explain why the term "GNU/Linux" is POV? I understand that companies and the majority of its user base don't use the term because it doesn't exactly roll off the tongue, but as the most accurate description of the OS, why isn't "GNU/Linux" better than just "Linux" (the name of the kernel)? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:54, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your note here. This is a very old issue and the subject of a longstanding consensus. Essentially GNU/Linux is a marketing term used by the FSF and the Gnu project and is not commonly used outside that small group and their advocates. Please read Talk:Linux/Name for the background on this. For further have a look though all the archives at Talk:Linux and also the Wikipedia article GNU/Linux naming controversy. - Ahunt (talk) 18:05, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
So the large number of people that use a term implies that the alternative term is POV? That doesn't seem right. How very nice of you to refer to "GNU/Linux" as a marketing term instead of a recognition of the irreplaceable portion the GNU project has contributed (ideologically and in code) to the larger operating system that Linus Torvalds has had all the modesty and good taste to name after himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:15, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Instead of blaming me - go and read the pages I indicated above. This was decided by consensus long before I came to Wikipedia. We all abide by consensus decisions, whether we agree with them or not. - Ahunt (talk) 18:18, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
The short version of the story is that corporations that marketed the OS wanted to avoid mentioning GNU because that would lead people to found out what GNU is, and learn about its allegedly "anti-business" protect-your-essential-freedoms ideology, so they just marketed it as "Linux". Media and the recent large influx of users of Ubuntu and Fedora took that and rolled with it. Since it is a long-standing consensus, I'm not going to argue with you anymore about it. You obviously care about consensus more than truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:The Truth - Ahunt (talk) 20:27, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy, happy[edit]

Happy New Year, and all the best to you and yours! (from warm Cuba) Bzuk (talk) 08:15, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Objection to my additions to the "History" section on the "Triumph Group" and "NTN Corporation" page[edit]

It appears as if there was objection to my additions to the History and Competitors sections on the Triumph Group page, inclusive of breaking the History section out into different decades. Without personal knowledge of the company history, I can not proceed any further on this section, unless I get suggestions on how to do so. These objections were also set forth on the NTN Corporation Wikipedia page. I wanted to get a second opinion on my modifications to these pages.--Jax 0677 (talk) 03:55, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, I see you have been talking to the other editor on User talk:Biker Biker, too, which is good. I have carefully looked though the text he removed and the text he says it was copied from. Most of it doesn't seem to match or overlap much, although I did find some text that is pretty close. For instance you wrote: "Fueled by unprecedented demand for airline capacity, Triumph Group posted a $9.7 million profit in 1996" and the cited article says "The group posted a profit of $9.7 million in 1996. This was fueled by unprecedented demand for airline capacity." Keep in mind that actual text is copyrighted but information is not, that means you can say the same things, but need to use different words to do it in. I would suggest you cite the article and rewrite your history section to eliminate any similar wording and then re-add it into the article again. - Ahunt (talk) 14:28, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Aircraft accidents and incidents[edit]

Since this page didn't go through to process described at Wikipedia:Policies and guidelines (in particular, you didn't garner consensus from the wider Wikipedia audience, you only got consensus within the WikiProject) it's not actually a guideline. Please see the recent discussion here. Thanks, Mlm42 (talk) 20:00, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Also, see the archived discussion comparing WikiProject consensus to Wikipedia-wide consensus. Mlm42 (talk) 20:04, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
And here is the related guideline, regarding use of the template {{WikiProject content advice}}. Mlm42 (talk) 20:05, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
Okay, thanks, will fix. - Ahunt (talk) 21:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

Cessna 175[edit]

Nice work on the Cessna 175 wikipage cleanup.!!!!Raymondwinn (talk) 16:11, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, glad that was helpful! - Ahunt (talk) 16:12, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Centre vs. Center?[edit]

I know that we colonists here in the United States have miles to go in learning how to speak the language called English despite it being American. However "center" is the way it is said here, and I do not think that Archimedes or other Greeks "invented" the center of gravity. It is like saying someone invented gravity or light.

I changed it to the American version, in keeping with the predominant use of English worldwide.

Pie chart showing the relative numbers of native English speakers in the major English-speaking countries of the world

However with your long list of accomplishments as a Wiki-contributor I thought it best to contact you on your talk page to possibly argue for my case on the matter. Pabobfin (talk) 15:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

It is all in WP:ENGVAR - in this case there is no acceptable reason for changing it to a US-centric spelling. - Ahunt (talk) 16:04, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your welcome but…[edit]

Thank you for welcoming me and please delete this post anytime you feel, for the only reason I edit this page is to figure out whether I am doing it correctly. Am I?
The other thing I’d like to ask is about the wiki mark up. Is there any change that I can write html and have it translated into wiki somehow?
And sorry for my English but I am Greek… Entropy1963 (talk) 01:27, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Yup you are doing just fine - no need to delete anything. Unfortunately the MediaWiki software requires using wiki mark-up language instead of HTML, but the good news is that is doesn't take that long to learn as it is greatly simplified over HTML. Most of the hints are right on the edit-view of each page and the rest you can pick up by looking at the edit view text.
I was in Greece a number of years ago and had a great time. The scenary is wonderful, the history inspiring and the people very warm and friendly. - Ahunt (talk) 01:34, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Let me know the next time you come to Greece! I am a travel agent and I won't mind assisting you.
Would you please tell me how to link my userpage with my own css? I have created my own css file but I don’t see how I can link it to my page.
it works ok by using inline css code but linking to an external css file would have been better.
thanks Entropy1963 (talk) 10:54, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

As far as I know there is no way to link a Wikipedia page to an external CSS or even to upload one - I have seen some pretty fancy looking user pages, but they all use on-page styles or transcluded templates. - Ahunt (talk) 11:45, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi again,

I have uploaded some pictures in Wikipedia and I am planning to upload some more that I have taken myself during my trips. I will place these pictures in the corresponding articles, however, I would also like to place them in the Greek version.
Can you please tell me how to do this? The links in the Greek version do not seem to work.
Thanks Entropy1963 (talk) 23:10, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your question. I suspect that is because you have uploaded your photos to the English Wikipedia. If you want them to be universally accessible on any language Wikipedia then you need to upload them to instead. Hope that helps. - Ahunt (talk) 23:32, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

Help Uploading An Image[edit]

I am a member of the Centennial Aviation Club and see that you have edited the wiki for our club in the past. Our logo has recently changed and I am trying to upload the new logo to be put in the wiki, however when I go to the upload page it does not allow me to upload the image. Can you explain what is happening or direct me to a page that can help? Thank You, Andrew Kurish (talk) 17:21, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Happy 10th Anniversary of Wikipedia![edit]

Cessna Mustang turboprop?[edit]

Adam, could you look at Talk:Cessna Citation Mustang#Turboprop version?? I've not heard anything about this at all, so I'm not up on the latest news. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 05:39, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

<TPS>Probably the Cessna E350 which as far as I know is nothing to do with the Citation Mustang. MilborneOne (talk) 09:28, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Yup it exists, I have answered over at Talk:Cessna Citation Mustang. - Ahunt (talk) 13:00, 16 January 2011 (UTC)


It's all relative - I got used, at one time, to be writing about one or two offs. No, the rewording is fine; perhaps, if my speculations on the discussion page are right, there might be more than 100! CheersTSRL (talk) 14:35, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem, it just struck me that even compared to other glider production runs that under 100 isn't a large amount! - Ahunt (talk) 15:27, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Etrich Taube[edit]

Thanks Winstonwolfe (talk) 07:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem, glad I could help. - Ahunt (talk) 11:34, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Random Smiley Award[edit]

For your contributions to Wikipedia and humanity in general, you are hereby granted the coveted Random Smiley Award.
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DYK nomination of Carlson Sparrow[edit]

I looked at the article and made my comments in the DYK section.Ekem (talk) 00:48, 20 January 2011 (UTC)


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I nom'd this article for DYK, but there seems to be a discrepancy in the article with the first flight date? The Bushranger One ping only 00:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. Thanks too for nominating the article for a DYK, if only because it picked up that date error! I have fixed that and also added an on-line ref as requested (so at least the DYK folks will have some confidence that the aircraft isn't a hoax, I guess). I responded over at Template_talk:Did_you_know#Carlson_Sparrow. - Ahunt (talk) 01:11, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Emrbaer E-Jets[edit]


Why did you remove the airplane registration from article Embraer E-Jet family ??? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Acelere (talkcontribs) 14:09, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for your question. The community consensus on when aircraft registrations should be used in articles is governed by Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Registrations and because these were prototypes the registrations can be included, but references are required. If you have a reference you can add them back in. - Ahunt (talk) 14:18, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
Yes, they are prototypes and covered in the consensus. That is why I did not understand the information removal. I re-added them. Cheers. comment added by Acelere (talkcontribs) 14:30, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, okay. - Ahunt (talk) 14:25, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors[edit]

I saw the quality of your contributions at DYK and clicked on over to your user page and was pretty impressed. Would you be interested in helping with the WP:Online_Ambassadors program? It's really a great opportunity to help university students become Wikipedia contributers. I hope you apply to become an ambassador, Sadads (talk) 00:16, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the invitation, let me look it all over. - Ahunt (talk) 00:19, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Flying K Sky Raider[edit]

HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 06:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Boeing 777 Singapore Airlines[edit]

SINGAPORE AIRLINES HAS ONLY 66 777s!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emirates777saeed (talkcontribs) 12:55, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

Show me a reference that says that. - Ahunt (talk) 12:59, 22 January 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Carlson Sparrow[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Useful tags[edit]

Your 'useful tags' section is great, thank you so much! Would you mind if I copied them over to my user page? I would, of course, attribute them to you. Wingtipvortex (talk) 22:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Glad you found those of use! I use them everyday for formatting, templates, refs etc. They are all copied from somewhere else, so sure go a head and copy anything you like. - Ahunt (talk) 23:36, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. They really are useful. Wingtipvortex (talk) 00:24, 25 January 2011 (UTC)

S/L Bill Waterton[edit]

thanks for clearing that up. Though I thought he was a civilian by that point. GraemeLeggett (talk) 12:50, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

He would have been a civilian at that point in time, but Majors and above (S/Ls) are allowed to keep their titles (as in "S/L (ret'd)"). This is not in common use today but was pretty common in the years after WWII, when there were lots of veterans around and this helped identify them to each other. - Ahunt (talk) 12:57, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Google Cloud Print[edit]

Hello, Ahunt! Thanks for correcting the GCP article I started. I mainly edit on the Hungarian Wikipedia and I'm not up to date with customs here. Cheers, SyP (talk) 14:24, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

No sweat, I had the redlink "watched" because I knew you would start the article. You are doing fine there, good job. I'll just tidy up a bit when needed. As you may have seen I added it to the Google nav box, so it will probably get some more help over time. A screenshot would be really helpful, I don't suppose you have cloud print running do you? I only have Chromium 8 here right now. - Ahunt (talk) 14:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Hello, Ahunt, thank you for the warm welcome.

I have been reading Wikipedia for years, and have been editing every now and then anonymously.

I decided to finally create an account about 7 months ago, when I wanted to fix some grammar and punctuation mistakes I saw on a page, but it was blocked from being edited by anonymous users.

I will definitely read the links you have provided me with. Thank you again.

Should this type of post not fit in a User discussion page, please consider removing it.

Sentient Planet (talk) 08:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, glad you found that welcome of use! That is just fine to reply here. If you run into any difficulties feel feel to leave me another note! - Ahunt (talk) 12:33, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Request your views on reinstating photo of glass/garbage[edit]

I have written a text presenting a balanced view of the Gatineau Park trail trash issue. Are you okay with reinstating the deleted photo?Stoneacres (talk) 01:05, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your note here - it is probably best to take this up at Talk: Gatineau Park to give other editors watching the page a chance to have some input, so I will transfer this discussion there. - Ahunt (talk) 12:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thanks for tweaking my userbox; I've been meaning to fix that for a while, but I never did get around to it. I'm not a big fan of userboxes, but I made that one for myself (I doubt most anyone else here knows or cares about the KNU); that was a result of my inexperience with formatting. Thanks again (and did you click the link?). The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 08:18, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I saw it and knew a quick fix for it! I am quite familiar with the KNU and the struggle of the Karen people, we have given refuge to quite a number of them here in Canada! Getting useful things done in Burma these days is beyond impossible. - Ahunt (talk) 12:15, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Ah, yes; it is amazing how few people down here in the States know who Aung San Suu Kyi is. I made Zoya Phan's article what it is today after reading her book, and her brother Slone is one of the people helping refugees out in Manitoba. There are some who ended up here in the States as well, but mostly out in California; no one here on the east coast can figure out how I got interested in the subject. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 17:08, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
It is an important story to tell. The Karen we have here in Canada are great people, the biggest problem they have in settling here (aside from the climate) is that they tend to be not formally educated, but we seem to be getting them off to schools and such. - Ahunt (talk) 17:40, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
A part of the problem, as I've found out this afternoon, is that there just aren't a lot of things going from English to Burmese or Karen; I can't even find a decent transliteration or translation machine. I've been trying to find a picture of Zoya's father, Padoh Mahn Sha Lah Phan (Burmese wiki doesn't have an article on him yet, and English searches didn't work), and I can't get a decent transliteration of his name, and trying to get even a rudimentary translation of the captions of the pictures on Burmese wiki's KNU article got me nowhere. But it's mostly just cultural ignorance, and it shows when looking at how many articles we have on western Europe versus Burma. What you describe about the Karen, I see in a slightly different light; where I am, we have a large Thai population (mostly from the east, where the fighting is), and it's the same as what you describe about the Karen. They come over with limited education, but once they get used to the snow and the English they do very well. Good to hear that it goes well up north too. The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 19:38, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
Yup I think you have pretty much summed it all up there. The Karen have done fine here, they seem keen to stay! - Ahunt (talk) 20:13, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks[edit]

I went to update the image page but I saw you had beaten me to it. Appreciate your trouble. --John (talk) 06:51, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I figured it needed doing! I always try to "close the loop" on issues here on Wikipedia, such as checking and fixing "what links here" on deleted articles which I nominated, etc. - Ahunt (talk) 14:09, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Unsourced poll[edit]

I've been impressed with your speed at updating Opinion polling in the 41st Canadian federal election, but I'm concerned about that January 2011 Pollara poll. The results weren't released publicly, we lack any sample size information, and we don't know when the poll was conducted. The Date of Polling you referenced is the publication date of the article you cited, which refers directly to the poll's results being distributed the day prior, which guarantees the poll was conducted before January 26, 2011. I really don't think we have enough information about that poll to include it. At the very least, I've shifted its Date of Polling back two days to something that is at least possibly correct (though it's still a guess, and might violate the prohibition on original research), but I honestly think it shouldn't be in the article at all. --Llewdor (talk) 20:36, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your note here. Glad you like the reaction time on getting the graph updated with each new poll. I think if we are going to have a graph it ought to be up to date! Setting the graph up took a while, but a single update only takes a few minutes. I didn't add the Pollara poll to the table myself (that was User:, but the source for it is the very respected Globe and Mail. They wouldn't have printed the results unless they had good reason to think the numbers were correct. Overall the results are not at all different from the other polls from the same time period, so don't see any strong reason to discount it, but I agree with your date change and so I will adjust the graph. - Ahunt (talk) 22:32, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Image CSDs[edit]

Just to let you know, I had to decline both File:OK-PUS 22 01.jpg and File:CTLS test 08.jpg. While they are the same picture - the web site is a derivative of the Wikipedia picture - this is evident by...

  • Picture Quality
  • Picture Size (for one of them)
  • Inclusion of EXIF camera data (been stripped out on the web site)
  • Web site had added a logo - I've had them in PhotoShop at 800%, and there's no evidence of any logo removal.

I suspect the picture uploader is the web site owner and been rather smart to ensure we cannot match the photos.  Ronhjones  (Talk) 23:10, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi thanks for letting me know. We have had two previous COI editors from this company trying to edit the articles and add promotional language and images, and I am sure this is just a third one as they are pretty easy to spot. Thanks for your help anyway. - Ahunt (talk) 00:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Asking your advice[edit]

Hi A., On one page I have been adding a "see also" to a page that I have been working on. I believe the link is appropriate, but a particular person keeps removing it. I have restored the link several times, and added a comment about that in Talk there. Since I am new to Wikipedia, can you please check it out and tell me if adding the link on that page is inappropriate? The history is here: [3], and there is also a change here which I don't understand (I can't figure out what was changed): [4]. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coastwise (talkcontribs) 06:18, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Well in reading though that all a few things come to mind. First off User:Vicky Ng has a history of edit warring as can be seen on her talk page at User talk:Vicky Ng as she has been blocked for it before and she seems to be engaged in an edit war with you over this. As far as the article Frequent-flyer program goes personally I would think that a new section about environmental impacts of frequent flyer progrmas would be a good idea, using the refs that you already located for Aviation and the environment. That new section should be brief and link to the main article, which should satisfy her on the connection. As far as her edit goes "moved Aviation and the environment to Aviation and the Environment", she changed the capitalization on the last word. This is actually wrong, as per WP:LOWERCASE. Hope that explains things? - Ahunt (talk) 12:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
I have asked an Aviation Project admin to look over the situation. - Ahunt (talk) 12:41, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
You can note that the admin moved Aviation and the Environment back to Aviation and the environment. - Ahunt (talk) 13:38, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coastwise (talkcontribs) 16:00, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
No problem, the same admin said he would look at the situation as outlined here and over at Frequent-flyer program as well later on today and perhaps make some recommendations. Incidentally when you leave a comment on a talk page, if you sign you comment with ~~~~ (four tildes - top left of most keyboards) then the software will put your user name, the date and time on the comment. it saves the bot from doing it for you. - Ahunt (talk) 16:06, 9 February 2011 (UTC)



Thanks a lot for your corrections - I'm not a native speaker, so I always like when someone checks my language. I also believe in references, but it's hard to get the balance between creating facts redaction and linking - sometimes informations are so scattered in properly designed article text that I don't know how to do it avoiding references to each word. =} kocio (talk) 14:07, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem, glad I was helping more than hindering! I know how hard it can be to work in a language you are not totally fluent in! If you find that there are too many refs in a paragraph you can always move them all to the end of the paragraph for readability. - Ahunt (talk) 14:13, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Thatcher CX4[edit]

I think you are overstepping your bounds by removing content and changing words. You changed "are available" to "manufactured." Peter Beck is not wholly a manufacturer; he mostly buys from suppliers and retails to consumers. I add references to show increasing visibility of the aircraft, and you remove them. Format yes, content no. Thanks. Casmeli (talk) 19:17, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your note and clarification on Beck's role, I will fix that. As far as your addition of VW Powerplants are available from three or four reputable vendors><ref>{{cite magazine|magazine=Sport Aviation|title=VW Powerplants|author=Tim Kern|date=February 2010}}</ref> which I removed goes, I stand by my edit summary, it is not relevant to the article. If the aircraft were Continental powered would you indicate how many dealers can supply Continental engines? No, because it wouldn't be relevant to the CX4. Now if you can show through a ref that Great Plains or some other VW supplier is recommended or even often used for the CX4, then that would be relevant. - Ahunt (talk) 21:36, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


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I nominated this article for DYK; alas, it seems some people don't get how aircraft notability works... The Bushranger One ping only 21:22, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'll have a look. - Ahunt (talk) 21:24, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for nominating the article, as you will have seen I have responded there. Looks like the reviewer (complainant?) isn't very familiar with WP:GNG, let alone the more specific WP:AIR/N that we use on the project. I guess in looking for the "DYK hook" that he also didn't read past the lead para. Hopefully my comments straightened that all out? - Ahunt (talk) 21:34, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (File:Centennial Aviation Club Logo.jpg)[edit]

You've uploaded File:Centennial Aviation Club Logo.jpg, and indicated that it's used under Wikipedia's rules for non-free images. However, it's not presently used in any articles. Wikipedia policy requires that non-free images be either used or deleted, so if this image isn't used in an article in the next week, it will be deleted.

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No problem the article was deleted so the logo has to go as well. - Ahunt (talk) 11:16, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Dear Ahunt, Thank you for the warm welcome. look forward to contribute further. your accomplishments are amazing. dumb question (DQ), do private light aircraft usually assist in forest management in the long term? Rahul.chou (talk) 08:07, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your note, nice to hear from you! That is not a dumb question at all. I only know what practices are used in my home country of Canada. Here the role of private aircraft in forest management is limited to reporting fires when they spot them, but I have no idea what is done in other countries, though. - Ahunt (talk) 11:28, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Carp Airport[edit]

Just curious but did they finish the sale. I looked but couldn't find any new news reports, the airport site still says "City of Ottawa" at the bottom of most pages and the WCD site doesn't have anything either. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 05:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

That is a good question. The CBC article just deals with the announced sale, not confirmation that it was completed. I'll check directly a little later in today and confirm it was completed. - Ahunt (talk) 10:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
I just checked and the papers are just in the process of being signed now, so it is a done deal. - Ahunt (talk) 19:47, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

problem with user:Wtshymanski[edit]

hello mr ahunt i have been having a problem with the above user he has been removing all my edits and am unable to contribute anything , he usually leaves a sarcastic remark at summary , since i see you as a old guy here , how can i counter him ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shrikanthv (talkcontribs) 13:04, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

As you probably noticed I had a problem wit this user as well. The standard procedure is to leave a warning and then WP:DFT. If it is an ongoing problem than make a report at WP:ANI or ask an admin to review the situation directly. - Ahunt (talk) 13:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)


Wilhelmina Will (talk) 01:49, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Quicksilver GT500[edit]

Thanks from me and the wiki Victuallers (talk) 12:04, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Moyes Dragonfly[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 18:05, 16 February 2011 (UTC)