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Media Viewer RfC case opened[edit]

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re: Margaret Abraham[edit]

Good finds. Being a president of ASA's automatically makes her pass WP:BIO, and those sources are enough for a stub at least. PS. In the future, I'd suggested posting such a question to WT:SOCIO and echoing me there. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:33, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Alanscottwalker (talk) 13:21, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

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A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png I appreciated the "cold comfort" note. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 17:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
That's what Americans would call cold comfort, indeed, thanks. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 17:33, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

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Precious again[edit]

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focus
Thank you for your contributions to quality articles such as George Solti, for creating them, such as Louis Purnell, and for requesting focus saying: It is only slightly more wordy to say, "that comment makes no sense because ..." than to say, "you're an idiot", - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:11, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Two years ago, you were the 232nd recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:05, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. Alanscottwalker (talk) 09:10, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Tara Zahra[edit]

Hello, Alanscottwalker. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Tara Zahra, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted:

  1. edit the page
  2. remove the text that looks like this: {{proposed deletion/dated...}}
  3. save the page

Also, be sure to explain why you think the article should be kept in your edit summary or on the article's talk page. If you don't do so, it may be deleted later anyway.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. st170etalk 01:03, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

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BLPN[edit]

Oops! You had me triple-guessing myself there. :) Cheers, Tgeairn (talk) 02:19, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry. Shame and embarrassment emoticon. Alanscottwalker (talk) 02:21, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
Well, if that's the only mistake either of us makes today then I'll count this one as a very good day. Those pages all start to look alike sometimes anyway. Cheers, Tgeairn (talk) 02:24, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

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 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:43, 19 October 2014 (UTC)

Heiwa Terrace[edit]

Thank you so much! WhisperToMe (talk) 12:47, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

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At Territories of the United States[edit]

Thanks for your support at Talk:United States#Area in square miles. The discussion proceeds as last year, with TFD misreading my sources and providing no sources of his own. Unlike last year, he has not begun reverting on the article mainspace.

But TFD has now at Territories of the United States attempted to remove the section I wrote on 21st century territories, claiming they were “random collection of facts used to argue territories are part of U.S.” I have opened a discussion section at Talk:Territories of the United States#21st century (current) territories. Please give a look to see if I have overstepped. I mean only to properly lay out one side of the argument, appropriately sourced, and allow for inclusion of both sides, appropriately sourced.

I understand that there are those who believe the U.S. territories are not a part of the U.S., --- though they are represented by Members of Congress (Delegate, Commissioner) chosen by U.S. federal elections and are "native-born" Americans according to the U.S. Census classification. In the 21st century, islanders have mutually agreed with the Congress to be a part of the U.S. by referendum. But regardless of whether you find that persuasive, I believe I should get a fair hearing, and both sides should be properly sourced. Thanks in advance for any contribution you would want to make. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 06:56, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

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U.S. square area[edit]

Perhaps a footnote such as recommended by you could be in order to accommodate the territorial excluders, -- to the effect that a) the states and DC alone are reported as having an area of 3,796,742 sq.mi., but leave the 3.80 million sq.mi. in the article mainspace intro and 3,805,927 sq.mi. in the info box. Would you see if that footnote proposal could calm the waters towards a consensus here for geographic area? -- OR would you prefer b) the 3,796,742 sq.mi. in the info box and a footnote for total area of 3,805,927 sq.mi. to include the 50 states, DC, Puerto Rico, and "Island Areas”? TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 18:14, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Well, could we have both in the infobox:
                                          X mi/km (inhabited total)[fn]
                                          Y mi/km (States and DC) [fn]

-- Alanscottwalker (talk) 18:30, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Best idea yet. Thanks. It is my contention that both inclusion and exclusion views should be represented, as can be reliably sourced.
I'm still looking for a source which uses the 1901 judicial invention of "unincorporated" territory which would say, "The official United States of America are the judicially classified "incorporated" fifty states, the federal district and Palmyra Atoll." Somehow incorporated/unincorporated classification is so arcane a judicial term of art that I cannot find its practical application to the reporting of geographical area of the United States anywhere but in the minds of three WP editors.
But lets go forward with a collaborative online encyclopedia. Would you mind posting your idea for "both" to the Poll subsection I just created at Talk:United States? TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 19:16, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
In trying to find a resolution, I proposed a “Poll for two alternatives”,
  • A. Report area including territories, footnote 50 states and DC area.
  • B. Report 50 states and DC area, footnote area including territories.
Although I have posted your idea for both twice so far, the results are two A., three B, although one of the Bs says either way, and one of the Bs may be saying no footnote. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 12:24, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

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RfC[edit]

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DangerousPanda arbitation request opened[edit]

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Wall of text at Talk:United States[edit]

The wall of text at Talk:United States is generated by my interpreting TFD as good faith inquiry into the subject. I suppose some would consider TFDs comments a form of wp:disruption as I sometimes do, but part of me answers as a retired school teacher responding to belligerent questioning as an opportunity to reinforce the lesson with additional sources, part of me responds to my child at four years repeatedly asking Why? to each response without any discussion contribution of her own. I think my extended commenting to answer straw man arguments is technically called “feeding the trolls”. But my posts are 1/3 to 1/4 shorter than last year’s...in part because my sourcing is better and the use of single brackets. Thank you for the West Publishing example, I had found it during research, but I did not understand the status of the publisher posting the information. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 10:27, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

I think you should reconsider the unhelpful behavior of 'trouting'. Being snarky isn't funny, and doesn't help the recipient hold a proper conversation about how to improve the encyclopedia. For the record, my action was not silly in any way, and everything you said about it was completely and utterly demonstrative of an interest in something, I know not what, but something other than the improvement of Wikipedia. I didn't and don't appreciate it. Please be more mature in the future.-- Jimbo Wales (talk) 16:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

@Jimbo Wales: -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:58, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
What? There was nothing snarky about it. If you cannot accept that other people will sometimes see your actions as silly and unhelpful and will tell you so and why, than it is you who are acting immature. There is no 'interest in something' - I said exactly what I mean and why I was saying it -- and your either dark innuendo, here, or assumption of bad faith is not an improvement to Wikipedia. Either directly address my concern or don't but your innuendo is most uncivil.Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:48, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
I am sorry, I apologize, my objections to TFD postings seem so mild compared to WP fare one can often find, but I will happily retract them. I meant a) to recognize that my responses to unsourced TFD objections filled up the page "as a wall of text" which I would prefer to avoid in the future, and b) to thank Alanscottwalker for nailing down the reliable source by West Publishers for a legal definition of "U.S. Territories" which was mirrored on another website where I could not determine the author's source. I recognize from my discussion with older≠wiser and Alanscottwalker that I need to make a more concise argument next time, otherwise the situation seems "too complex" and "murky". TFD remains unhelpfully unsourced.
Somehow I find my post being characterized as "trouting", --- I thought "trouting" had to be delivered directly to the user? That is not my intent, my intent is to follow wp:psts and wp:or as to secondary sources on the subject of the 21st century status of the five major territories, --- as opposed to maintaining that their status is unchanged since 1901 or in 1922 --- WITHOUT sources. See Lawson and Sloane (2009) "endlessly" referenced, cited, linked and directly quoted as to the 21st century "incorporation" of Puerto Rico, regardless of its 1901 or 1922 status. It remains without a scholarly counter-source supplied in opposition. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 17:35, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
NO. Another editor came here and posted in the section you created. So, trouting (and that whole comment) has nothing to do with you. :) Alanscottwalker (talk)
Thanks. somehow it is reassuring not to say comforting, that TFD is not Jimmy Wales. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 11:19, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


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DYK for The Captive Slave[edit]

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:01, 23 February 2015 (UTC)

A week gone by[edit]

With a week gone by and no response to Sunray's request for further comments, just so you know, Dispute resolution in March 2013 came down to familiar names and phrasing [1].

  • Can you live with… The United States ... is a federal republic consisting of fifty states and a federal district. ... The country also possesses several territories in the Pacific and Caribbean. — yes: TFD, Golbez, older=wiser first choice (Bkonrad), CMD.
  • Can you live with… The United States of America is a nation state governed by a federal constitutional republic, consisting of fifty states and a federal district as well as several territories. … — yes. TheVirginiaHistorian, second choice older=wiser (Bkonrad), Collect, Gwillhickers, Mendaliv, RightCowLeftCoast.

Consensus discussion led by Mendaliv on United States Talk page included this exchange,

  • The United States ... is a federal constitutional republic that includes fifty states and a federal district, as well as other territories and possessions.
"I might could live with this one." --Golbez (talk) 1:15 am, 24 February 2013, Sunday (1 year, 11 months, 30 days ago) (UTC−5) [2]

With TFD adamantly opposing, the 2-1 majority in the dispute resolution relented (two for including territories dropped out of the process), the process failed on the discussion page thereafter, following multiple mainspace reversions to exclude the territories. —

You will notice how very close this last draft language is to our mediated Proposal Y, which Golbez once "endorsed", while TFD's good faith concession in mediation is a restatement of his 2013 position without supporting scholarly sources for his non-sequiturs, then silence. And now we again have, silence for a week. I am for a collaborative sourced on-line encyclopedia. But is there something in this collaborative process I am missing? TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 07:55, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Sure. It often takes a long time. But any single/few holdout will have to just be overridden in the end. Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:10, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

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You deserve a barnstar![edit]

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Thank you for adding the ceremony location of 2015 Pritzker Architecture Prize. Rossi101 (talk) 22:32, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Most unexpected but you're welcome. Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:36, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you[edit]

Thank you for all of your time and input over at AfD. Your comments helped us see into blind spots. Jbh (talk) 02:07, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Heather Bresch[edit]

Hi Alanscottwalker. I was wondering if you had a minute to take a look at a Requested Edit on a BLP page here. There is some relevant discussion above it. BTW - I noticed link 3 on your user page is a broken link. CorporateM (Talk) 18:01, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

Trying to thread the needle[edit]

At U.S. request for mediation, trying to thread the needle in the poll returns between B1-2 “national jurisdiction", and C1-2 “federal republic consisting of”, —and using the letter identification of subject phrases. A:, B:, C:, ... is just for discussion purposes.

D.1 The United States is a federal republic consisting of A: 50 states, B: a federal district and C: other territories in its national jurisdiction.
D.2. The United States is a federal republic consisting of A: 50 states, as well as B: a federal district and C: other territories in its national jurisdiction.
D.3. The United States is a federal republic consisting of A: 50 states, B: a federal district, C: two commonwealths, D: three territories and E: other possessions in its national jurisdiction.

These can be parsed in various ways which accommodates the major divisions among editors as I see them, with an eye to include ALL initial participants.

D.1. The federal republic consists of A, B and C. or,
  • A, B and C in its national jurisdiction. or ambiguously, C in its national jurisdiction outside the federal republic -- or -- C is in a non-A-B status.

or

D.2. The federal republic consists of A, as well as B and C. or,
  • A, B and C in its national jurisdiction. or ambiguously, B and C in its national jurisdiction outside the federal republic, -- or -- B and C are in a non-A status.

or

D.3. The federal republic consists of A, B, C, D and E. or,
  • A, B, C, D, E in its national jurisdiction. or ambiguously, E in its national jurisdiction outside the federal republic, -- or -- E is in a non-A-B-C-D-E status.

Any thoughts in response to these items for redrafts, --- or any main principles up front, in response to Sunray's invitation for a priori Principles-for-objection before trying to reach an accommodation or redraft among the poll responses? TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 06:59, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

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great help[edit]

I appreciated the links on your user page.

I noticed that some of them mentioned pain and hope that you are alright.

GregKaye 19:48, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm fine thank you. I hope the links are helpful, but actually, I did not know what you were referring to - I got those links years ago from I do not remember where. Alanscottwalker (talk) 19:52, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Photo requests in the Chicago city and suburbs[edit]

Hi! Do you do photo requests in the Chicago city and suburbs? WhisperToMe (talk) 03:31, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

No, Sorry. If you want to request a photo on that subject go to [3] - Alanscottwalker (talk) 10:53, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
Ok. Thank you for the suggestion :) - I also made sure several of the articles had the proper photo needed tag WhisperToMe (talk) 13:11, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks. And have a nice day. NickCT (talk) 18:29, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

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This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above.

1. Collect is banned from any page relating to or making any edit about US politics or US political figures, in any namespace. This ban may be appealed no earlier than 18 months after its adoption.

2. Collect is indefinitely limited to one revert per article in any 24 hour period. This restriction excepts the reversal of unambiguous vandalism.

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Mediation on Grant[edit]

I'm going to go ahead and request mediation there, since we can't seem to get a straight answer out of one editor. Do you think that's right? I haven't done one of these before. My main experience with dispute resolution was GW's last episode, and RfCs are now discontinued, apparently. I'd be glad for any advice. --Coemgenus (talk) 22:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Well, mediation is pretty easy to start (accept) but, I am doubtful of how useful it will be as the current editor count is 3-1, and the one won't recognize compromise, and he does not recognize the three of us have any points but perhaps . . . The alternative is just hold ground on the page -with a note saying he has not succeeded at WP:ONUS so there is nothing left to do here (i will second that), the burden is his. (whatever you do, avoid ANI, unless you want to gather and argue a long string of abuse [diffs], against skeptical audience there) Do you know anyone who can talk to him? Alanscottwalker (talk) 23:10, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
I don't. I've never met anyone who could reason with him. I don't know that the mediation will work, but what other options do we have? The situation is out of hand.--Coemgenus (talk) 23:21, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Except he has already said, he won't respect a mediator - so maybe just time to say 'no' and keep saying it - he has the burden. At any rate, I can't say you're wrong. Alanscottwalker (talk) 23:28, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
You may be right. It's kind of a waste of a mediator's time. I'm not too familiar with ANI, but I commented on the last one about GW. It actually seemed like it might've worked, if it had been phrased differently, perhaps as a sanction against his disruptive behavior, rather than racism per se (although the situation in 2013 is rather similar to this one). Do you think it might be worth another try? --Coemgenus (talk) 23:37, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
I do not. Alanscottwalker (talk) 23:41, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
OK. I'm not going to go to ANI unless you're on board. I'll look into inviting other editors to weigh in, that might help. We'll see who else wants to take a dip in that cesspool of a talk page. --Coemgenus (talk) 00:13, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you. What a weird thing for people to spend their time on. Doczilla @SUPERHEROLOGIST 00:31, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

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American politics 2 arbitration proposed decision posted[edit]

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Request for mediation accepted[edit]

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Question[edit]

Of course you have the option of deleting your talk page text without responding but, again, I am trying to reduce wp:drama on the talk page. You make a connection between the caption of the infobox photo and the title of the segment of content below. Was this something that you had clearly in mind when you made the edit or was your edit more as a reaction to the "Rodham" being removed from the main infobox heading? I think that we need to work together so as to develop coherent content without the involvement of other goals. GregKaye 05:53, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

If you want to reduce drama then just follow wiki practice assume good faith, as I said in the edit summary it was to reflect the source. This provides sourced information in an efficient manner to the reader, and yes I knew the text that was already below the image. -- Alanscottwalker (talk) 08:02, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 16 June[edit]

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Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American politics 2 closed[edit]

This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:

  1. Remedy 1 of the American Politics case is rescinded. In its place, the following is adopted: standard discretionary sanctions are authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to post-1932 politics of the United States and closely related people.
  2. Ubikwit (talk · contribs) is banned from any page relating to or making any edit about post-1932 politics of the United States, and closely related people, in any namespace. This ban may be appealed no earlier than 18 months after its adoption.
  3. MONGO (talk · contribs) is admonished for adding to the hostility in the topic area.

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Thanks very much...[edit]

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Arbitration motion regarding Arbitration enforcement[edit]

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Arbitration enforcement arbitration case opened[edit]

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Change from announced time table for the Arbitration enforcement arbitration case[edit]

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DYK for São José Paquete Africa[edit]

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ICYMI (and thanks)[edit]

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The Signpost: 01 July 2015[edit]

Arbitration case evidence[edit]

Regarding this evidence you presented: note that the action in question was due to a violation of a specific topic ban for the editor, and not under the authorization of discretionary general sanctions in the topic area. isaacl (talk) 20:28, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

And the difference that makes is? Where are the standards for enforcement for "violation of a specific topic ban"?Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:11, 4 July 2015 (UTC) User:Issac1 Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:14, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Simply letting you know, so if you like, you can adjust your presentation as you wish. As you know, authorization for discretionary sanctions leaves the decision on when to enact sanctions and what sanctions to enact up to the judgment of the administrator, whereas a topic ban has specific criteria with, in the case of an arbitration case remedy, a standard enforcement procedure. isaacl (talk) 21:49, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
That is what I don't know. What are you referring to when you say "standard enforcement procedure"? I understand the remedy/ban is placed by Arbcom, but the enforcement is left to all uninvolved admins. Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:53, 4 July 2015 (UTC) User:Issac1 Do you have a link to a page I can look at, to see what you mean? Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:01, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
For example, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Interactions at GGTF#Enforcement of restrictions. The standard provisions were passed last year so they could be reused with each case without having to vote on them each time, and to bring uniformity to the enforcement mechanisms, making it easier for users to understand, rather than having to know the peculiarities of each specific case. isaacl (talk) 22:06, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
On a side note, your pings aren't for the right user, but in any case I have your talk page watchlisted at the moment. isaacl (talk) 22:08, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
To further clarify: with an authorization for discretionary sanctions, administrators have to determine if an editor's actions are disruptive and what sanction would be best suited to remedy the situation. With a specific editing restriction, the arbitration committee has already determined what criteria should be used to trigger a sanction, and the sanction is escalating blocks. (How much judgment administrators should use in implementing this is the basic question under discussion in this case.) isaacl (talk) 22:14, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. Poor whoever that is, sorry (I don't under stand that either, are you not User:Issac1?) At any rate, I get the the topic ban cannot be lifted (nor should it be disputed) by anyone but Arbcom, but the Admin still has to decide to push the buttons, when it happens. So, it is (more than) half done, you are correct, it's just not all done. Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:19, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean by half done. Enforcement is executed by administrators in all cases, but an authorization for discretionary sanctions doesn't tell administrators what to do or when to do it; it leaves it up to them to look at a dispute in the targeted area and figure something out. An editing restriction specifies that Editor X cannot do Y, and blocks can be applied if X does Y. So the scope of judgment required for discretionary sanctions is much broader: administrators have to decide if there was disruption in the area, what was the nature of the disruption, and what action might best serve to improve the situation. I think the difference may affect the relevance of your current evidence (particularly when you say that "The tension here is that DS is discretionary"), and so I thought I would draw your attention to this matter. The name you've been entering is misspelled. isaacl (talk) 22:33, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
What I mean is the disruption is established by Arbcom, but the enforcement can't occur, until an action by the party occurs, and then the admin has to decide what to do. Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:41, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

In these edits, you've added links to an editing restriction and its enforcement provision, but in both cases immediately after sentences that refer to discretionary sanctions, which is a bit contradictory. I suggest your line of reasoning would be easier to follow if you modify it to discuss editing restrictions instead. isaacl (talk) 23:18, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

I don't know what's contradictory but there is a tension in current policy. The admin has no discretion to lift the ban but I think has some discretion (DS) on what enforcement action to take. Alanscottwalker (talk) 23:24, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Because the authorization for discretionary sanctions is different than the editor's topic ban, so when you use the term "Discretionary Sanctions" in your evidence, most people will think you are referring to this authorization. Based on your clarification, you're just saying that administrators have discretion to decide on how to enact the standard enforcement provision. These two are not the same thing, thus the potential for confusion. isaacl (talk) 23:29, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Motion passed in AE arbitration case granting amnesty and rescinding previous temporary injunction[edit]

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On 5 July, 2015, the following motion was passed and enacted:

  1. Paragraphs (2) and (3) of the Arbitration Committee's motion of 29 June 2015 about the injunction and reporting breaches of it are hereby rescinded.
  2. The Arbitration Committee hereby declares an amnesty covering:
    1. the original comment made by Eric Corbett on 25 June 2015 and any subsequent related comments made by him up until the enactment of this current motion; and
    2. the subsequent actions related to that comment taken by Black Kite, GorillaWarfare, Reaper Eternal, Kevin Gorman, GregJackP and RGloucester before this case was opened on 29 June 2015.

Mediation update or RfC proper?[edit]

Not sure where to work in the Mediation/United States summary charts in the RfC proper to avoid clutter, so I tried out a sample with putting them in the “Mediation update” section proposed for the “United States:Talk “page” immediately before the RfC -- see the Mediation page section on "Final draft of RfC".

Please feel free to rearrange in accordance with the earlier working consensus to add them to the RfC proper. Thanks. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 14:45, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Nokuse Plantation[edit]

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Chicago skyline[edit]

Greetings, I see that you've edited the Architecture of Chicago page. It looks like the clickable image of the skyline there is more current then the image of the Chicago skyline that appears on most building pages, like here. Not sure when the latter image was taken, but I don't see the Trump Tower Chicago on the recurring image. Do you know how that could be updated? Not sure how to find out who created the original. Thanks. Bangabandhu (talk) 14:44, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't know the answers - if you look at the wiki-editing-code for the image, it looks like something just done at that article by someone and would require going through the article history, but perhaps someone at the help desk, who knows more about images and coding can help WP:HD. Alanscottwalker (talk) 21:18, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

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Palestine-Israel articles 3 arbitration case opened[edit]

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The Signpost: 26 August 2015[edit]

Adams - retirement data[edit]

I agree with your removal of the data regarding lifespan of Adams and other presidents. I have the same impression of the data in the retirement section on the length of retirement. Thoughts? Hoppyh (talk) 20:54, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Removed. Thanks. Alanscottwalker (talk) 22:15, 1 September 2015 (UTC)