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Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon" at Queens Library! Friday December 6[edit]

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Please join Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon on December 6, 2013!
Everyone gather at Queens Library to further Wikipedia's local outreach
for borough articles on the history and the communities.
Drop-ins welcome 10am-7pm!--Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

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Books & Bytes New Years Double Issue[edit]

Books & Bytes

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Volume 1 Issue 3, December/January 2013

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Happy New Year, and welcome to a special double issue of Books & Bytes. We've included a retrospective on the changes and progress TWL has seen over the last year, the results of the survey TWL participants completed in December, some of our plans for the future, a second interview with a Wiki Love Libraries coordinator, and more. Here's to 2014 being a year of expansion and innovation for TWL!

The Wikipedia Library completed the first 6 months of its Individual Engagement grant last week. Here's where we are and what we've done:
Increased access to sources: 1500 editors signed up for 3700 free accounts, individually worth over $500,000, with usage increases of 400-600%
Deep networking: Built relationships with Credo, HighBeam, Questia, JSTOR, Cochrane, LexisNexis, EBSCO, New York Times, and OCLC
New pilot projects: Started the Wikipedia Visiting Scholar project to empower university-affiliated Wikipedia researchers
Developed community: Created portal connecting 250 newsletter recipients, 30 library members, 3 volunteer coordinators, and 2 part-time contractors
Tech scoped: Spec'd out a reference tool for linking to full-text sources and established a basis for OAuth integration
Broad outreach: Wrote a feature article for Library Journal's The Digital Shift; presenting at the American Library Association annual meeting
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Saturday: NYC Art And Feminism Wikipedia Editathon[edit]

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Please join Wikipedia "Art and Feminism Editathon" @ Eyebeam on Saturday February 1, 2014,
an event aimed at collaboratively expanding Wikipedia articles covering Art and Feminism, and the biographies of women artists!

There are also regional events that day in Brooklyn, Westchester County, and the Hudson Valley.
--Pharos (talk)

Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon[edit]

Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon
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You are invited to join upcoming Wikipedia "Editathons", where both experienced and new Wikipedia editors will collaboratively improve articles on a selected theme, on the following two Saturdays in March:

I hope to see you there! Pharos (talk)

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GOCE February blitz wrapup[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Blitzes/February 2014 wrap-up
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Participation: Out of seven people who signed up for this blitz, all copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: During the seven-day blitz, we removed 16 articles from the requests queue. Hope to see you at the March drive! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Baffle gab1978.

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Hi[edit]

Hi, im GenericBobJoe, you sent my IP address a warning for vandalism, the page that I apparently vandalized said the vandalism was in 2007. I got the computer with this IP last year, and I don't think teaneck is gay. I seriously do not know why this is happening. You should TempBan me from editing for now, maybe one day, and i'll see what's wrong with this computer. If this keeps happening,or if you might know anything about this, please reply. -GenericBobJoe

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Saturday April 30: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa @ Guggenheim[edit]

Saturday April 30, 1-6pm: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa @ Guggenheim
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On Saturday April 30, 2016, in conjunction with a global campaign, the Guggenheim will host its fourth Wikipedia edit-a-thon — or, #guggathon — to enhance Wikipedia's coverage of modern and contemporary artists from the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, and to counter geocultural systemic bias on Wikipedia.

The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of the Guggenheim UBS MAP Global Art Initiative, and build on the model of campaigns like the Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at the Guggenheim: Women in Architecture, Wikipedia Asian Month, and Art+Feminism.

New and experienced editors are welcome. The event will include a training session for participants who are new to Wikipedia and Wikipedia specialists will be on hand to provide basic instruction and editing support.

Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global MENA Artists Month partnership page to coordinate international and online events as well.

Time: Presentation: 1:00 pm - 2:30 pm, Edit-a-thon: 2:30pm - 6:00pm
Location: Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, 1071 Fifth Avenue (88th Street), New York City, New York 10128
Guests should enter using the 88th Street entrance via the ramp at 88th Street and Fifth Avenue

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

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Pertaining to Newspaperarchive.com[edit]

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November 15: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP[edit]

Wednesday November 15, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts (4th floor) at 721 Broadway in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts (4th floor), 721 Broadway
(note that we are not at Babycastles this month)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

P.S. You are also invited to Wikipedia Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ Metropolitan Museum of Art on Sunday November 19!

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WikiCup 2018[edit]

So the 2017 WikiCup has come to an end. Congratulations to the winner, to the other finalists and to all those who took part. 177 contestants signed up, more than usual, but not all of them submitted entries in the first round. Were editors attracted by the cash prizes offered for the first time this year, or were these irrelevant? Do the rules and scoring need changing for the 2018 WikiCup? If you have a view on these or other matters, why not join in the WikiCup discussion about next year's contest? Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs · email), Godot13 (talk · contribs · email) and Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email). MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Christopher Collins[edit]

The reason you probably didn't find much under Christopher Collins is that the professional name (as well as his birth name) he uses is Chris Latta if you do a search on Google and Yahoo etc... using Chris Latta there are plenty of sources. YborCityJohn (talk) 16:12, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

  • YborCityJohn, I looked up all combinations and permutations -- "Christopher Collins", "Christopher Latta", "Chris Collins" and "Chris Latta" -- and could find nothing to connect him to Orange, New Jersey. What reliable and verifiable sources have you found? Without those sources, I'm not sure why the entry was added. Alansohn (talk) 16:18, 24 November 2017 (UTC)


Haddon Township Police Department (New Jersey)[edit]

I received an automated message saying you had proposed a speedy deletion of this article. I went to the page to contest the deletion, but could not find the button usually found in such cases. May I presume you removed your proposal yourself?''Paul, in Saudi'' (talk) 09:35, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

Yahoo Sports Blog[edit]

Please stop trying to add the Yahoo sports blog as a reliable source. A better source already exists, but I'm telling you something you already know, as you're an experienced editor. The only possible reason I can see for you to keep reverting is some sense of "my version is better" without any factual basis; that smacks of WP:OWN, and I hope I'm wrong about this, because an editor making millions of edits hopefully wouldn't engage in behavior like that. Rockypedia (talk) 17:40, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

  • Rockypedia, both sources are appropriate and each provides different details. The source you're adding is already in the article. Alansohn (talk) 17:43, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that, and made the appropriate changes. And no, a sports blog is not appropriate, especially when the blog is simply referencing the actual article which is already a source! Rockypedia (talk) 17:47, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
As for WP:CITEVAR, see this RfC, which clearly established that vertical and horizontal cites can co-exist, as they are considered different styles, not different formats. Regardless, why would you use that as partial cover for including a blog when the actual reliable source is available, and all that's needed? Rockypedia (talk) 17:50, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Rockypedia, you've changed both WP:CITEVAR and WP:DATEVAR to reinsert your preferred format. I'm not sure what your edit war here is about, other than to impose your preferred style. Alansohn (talk) 17:57, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
If you really really need to have a horizontal format on that page, since it appears you think you own it, I really don't care to edit war about that. And change the date format, too, fine. But you should definitely be aware of that RfC, which it appears you weren't. The bigger point here is the blog as a source, and you using the CITEVAR and DATEVAR as some sort of distraction is ridiculous. Again, you've made millions of edits, and you know better than that. Then again, I now see you've also been blocked a few dozen times for petty arguments, so maybe this is in line with how you operate. I don't know. Just leave the blog out. Rockypedia (talk) 18:00, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Again, you said "violation of CITEVAR" in your edit summary. It's patently not a violation. Did you even bother to read this RfC? Rockypedia (talk) 18:04, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Rockypedia, I've dealt with abusive editors like you before. You know you're dealing with a genuine WP:DICK when the The claims made are directly contradicted by the claimed source.
The RfC in question explicitly cites both WP:CITESTYLE -- "While citations should aim to provide the information listed above, Wikipedia does not have a single house style, though citations within any given article should follow a consistent style. A number of citation styles exist including those described in the Wikipedia articles for Citation, APA style, ASA style, MLA style, The Chicago Manual of Style, Author-date referencing, the Vancouver system and Bluebook." -- and WP:CITEVAR -- "Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference, to make it match other articles, or without first seeking consensus for the change.". Both of these guidelines explicitly contradict your claims. If your contribution to this encyclopedia is to violate policy and change citation formats, please help us all. For now, get lost and fight some other edit war to impose your bullshit preferences. Alansohn (talk) 18:32, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
I stumbled by this because back in the early days of finding a source with veracity, blogs are pretty much the bottom of the barrel no no choice. Blogs are just that a blog,a diary, if you use a blog as a citation, you are citing known unverifiable material....Besides, they are an off shoot of Yahoo Sports groups, which used to be the largest flame war on the webCoal town guy (talk) 18:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
  • Rockypedia, I do believe that this is based on a misunderstanding of an RfC and I have refactored my comment above. Alansohn (talk) 21:54, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

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December 2017[edit]

Let's make something perfectly clear: you started a discussion that asked "Is Yahoo Sports a reliable source?" You didn't start a discussion that asked "Should this tertiary source from the Yahoo Sports High School blog be used instead of the secondary source that it points out and links to?" If you start an RfC on that, it will be relevant to the edit that you're now trying to force on the Millville High School article. If you don't know how to start an RfC that's that specfic, let me know and I'll be happy to start it for you. Thanks. Rockypedia (talk) 17:39, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

Rockypedia, every participant saw your argument and rejected it. The source is reliable and verifiable, and supports the claim being made. It's time to move on as you appear to be living up to your reputation. Alansohn (talk) 17:41, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
This is a lie. Nobody rejected my argument that the tertiary source is redundant. You put forth a premise that I was arguing that all of Yahoo Sports was not a reliable source, which was a lie. I was pointing out the the source was a blog piece and only linked to a reliable secondary source. You set up the straw man, and when I pointed out that I wasn't saying all of Yahoo was not a reliable source, you conveniently ignored that. No one has commented on your use of a blog as a source, because you never asked that question. Set up a real RfC and then get consensus, and your edit will be valid. However, I think you already know what would happen, because that's the reason you set up the straw man discussion in the first place. Rockypedia (talk) 17:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
The argument was made by you that a blog at Yahoo Sports can't be reliable; that argument has been summarily rejected. I see that you have done nothing other than delete articles and disrupt content. Try doing something productive and learn how to be a useful editor. Maybe another WP:ANI case might be more successful. Alansohn (talk) 17:53, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Again, you're lying. I made the argument that that particular blog post was not considered a reliable secondary source, because it's a blog post AND because it merely points to the reliable secondary source, with no research of its own. Why you're insisting on including it would be baffling, except that after dealing with you over this one edit, and being contacted by other editors that you've bludgeoned into submission, I'm pretty sure it's only about WP:WINNING at this point for you. Unfortunately, in this case the source is not as good as the secondary source that's already there, so there's no reason for it to be there. Rockypedia (talk) 18:05, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
Again, you're living up to your reputation. While your first approach was a failed attempt to WP:ANI, I went to WP:RSN, raised the issue, heard from multiple uninvolved parties, saw your issues directly rebutted and responded to that consensus. I put the source into the article in the first place because it addressed a specific claim and I reinserted it on that basis and based on the consensus reached at WP:RSN.
If you believe your own bullshit about my "lying" -- as you've claimed on several separate occasions in separate violations of WP:NPA -- start another case at WP:ANI. If you believe that you have a case above and beyond the one that was rejected at WP:RSN, start an RfC, but be forewarned that you will be hit directly by claims that you're forum shopping.
The choice is yours, but I hope that you will stop edit warring. Alansohn (talk) 21:15, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

December 13: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC[edit]

Wednesday December 13, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 18:42, 11 December 2017 (UTC)

P.S. You are also invited to AfroCROWD Street Culture Wikipedia Edit-a-thon and Year End Celebration on Saturday December 16!

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