User talk:Alex.tan

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Early discussion[edit]

Hello there, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you need any questions answered about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Cheers! --maveric149

I'm not sure what you mean by "it's either Mandarin or Chinese, not Mandarin Chinese". Mandarin can be used as an adjective to describe the specific type if Chinese. --Jiang 20:23, 22 Aug 2003 (UTC)

It's a bit different when you say, for example, British English or American English or Australian English. There are differences between these forms of English but basically, speakers can understand each other if you put them together in the same room. If you put native monolingual speakers of only, say, Hokkien, Mandarin and Cantonese together in the same room, they almost certainly will not be able to understand one another. I guess it would be acceptable to say they are each speaking some Chinese dialect, but the pronunciations are so different it's more like the difference between English and Irish than between British and American. -- Alex.tan 06:19, 3 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I'm not sure that's a good comparison. Irish English is completely understandable to a British English speaker, and vice versa -- Irish Gaelic is another language entirely.

Don't forget to add the title of the article somewhere in the intro (I usually put it as close to the beginning as possible), and bold it (re Aripiprazole). Articles look much nicer that way! :) Dysprosia 10:00, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Yup, yup. Was transferring more stuff from everything2. *shrug* Alex.tan 10:44, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)
Just making sure :) Hope I didn't come off too motherly lol... Dysprosia 10:46, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

I thought you were tired! :) Muriel Gottrop 13:24, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Please create user acct. on meta (with a link to this account) for your vote to be counted. --Jiang 02:39, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)

  • done. --Alex.tan 04:47, 22 Sep 2003 (UTC)

Hello, I reorganized your kidney article a bit and added some stuff. You may want to check if everything is still alright. Cheers, AxelBoldt 22:32, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)

cheers =-) Alex.tan

Hi, I've been trying to recruit people who might know the language to the Malay Wikipedia. Any chance you'd be able to contribute or that you know somebody who might? Best, -- Kowey 18:20, 6 Jan 2004 (UTC)

I can contribute but I don't want to use my inferior knowledge of Malay to contribute ... I'll mention it to any Malay friends I know though. Alex.tan

Hi Alex, thanks for your message on Talk:Sphygmomanometry. Nice to have other docs around. Have you any idea if there is going to be some systematisation effort on the medical side of Wikipedia? I've just been writing articles and updating the ones that were just hugely POV (such as Oncology). Do you think we could have these nice light-blue boxes linking, for example, all the Nephrology articles together? I'd be delighted to put some work in, but not on my own... JFW 08:32, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Glad to see you're interested in joining the WikiDoc effort. You've done a lot for the quality of medicine on Wikipedia (e.g. bone marrow transplant).
I saw your edits on plasmodium falciparum. Did you see last week's Lancet? They seem to have invented a fifth plasmodium, a zoonosis from macaques. JFW | T@lk 17:32, 11 Apr 2004 (UTC)
No, didn't see the article in the Lancet. Usually read these magazines in back issues when I have the time. I'll go look for the article and get back to you. Oh, btw, you do excellent work too. Alex.tan 11:56, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for contributing to the CRP article. It is surprisingly hard to find out what CRP really is! Kd4ttc 01:41, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)

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thanks for the editing on ETT, by the way! e 21:57, 17 May 2004 (UTC)


Hey Alex, check out the talk page of the "List of eponymous anatomical structures" page you've created. Jay 12:31, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Merged the two pages. Probably can delete the old page ... Alex.tan 14:45, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

You must either be be refreshing your watchlist very often, or using the RSS feed of RecentChanges. How could you otherwise have edited Gaucher's disease one minute after my last save???? :-) JFW | T@lk 10:37, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Just noticed it on the Recent changes page ... :-) Alex.tan 10:38, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The RSS feed is fantastic. Catch vandalism before anyone else. I was just about to add that catagory to pseudogout, but you won again. JFW | T@lk 10:40, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Broadband is good. :-) Alex.tan 10:41, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)

drug identification[edit]

Hi Alex, have you tried using the drug identification pages in MIMS (or E-MIMS). It classifies the tablets/capsules into colours, then shows either a photo or diagram of the tablet/capsule - I find it quite useful when helping my patients (well... "customers", I guess) to identify their medication. Or is there an international equivalent of MIMS which might have that sorta thing? Techelf 1254, 1 July 2004 (UTC)

Hi, yes, I've tried that before when I had the tablet in front of me. That was some years ago. It's harder when the patient doesn't have the tablets and says "the white one, for my hypertension" as opposed to the "yellow and green one" for something else. In any case, that's in the big version of the MIMS, yes? Don't have that in the polyclinics in Singapore. Alex.tan 08:23, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Category Ophthalmology[edit]

Uh, you just recently put an article into the category "Opthalmology" [sic]. I'm sure you're aware that it is spelled "Ophthalmology", o-p-H-.... Dpbsmith 11:09, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Whoops. Sorry. My typo. Well, it's on the Wikipedia:List of common misspellings ... Alex.tan 14:27, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Pickwickian syndrome[edit]

Is this text a copyvio from ? If it is not, or you wrote the original, my apologies. -- Anon.

The original text is copyright 1837 by Charles Dickens and is most certainly in the public domain by now. The quote from the article is, imho, within fair use. Perhaps you would like to identify yourself before making further accusations of copyright violations. Alex.tan 16:45, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Hi, I did some edits to peritoneum to define "peritoneal cavity". It seems to me however that some people define that term differently, not as the space between the two peritoneal layers, but as the whole space surrounded by the peritoneum. For instance, I find statements on the web like "the stomach is located in the peritoneal cavity". Are those statements simply wrong, or is that just an alternative valid definition? Thanks, AxelBoldt 21:51, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The peritoneal cavity or "peritoneal space" as it should be called is the space enclosed by the peritoneum. It is not equal to the abdominal cavity though it appears to approximate this. The stomach itself is within the peritoneal cavity though structures such as the duodenum are not. The distinction is important for medical purposes. Alex.tan 08:05, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Oops, then my edits on Peritoneum were wrong: I defined "peritoneal cavity" as the potential space between the two peritoneal layers, which contains the fluid between the two layers (but obviously not the stomach). What is the correct term for that space? I worked off of . ( also seems to support the statement that the peritoneal cavity is empty except for some fluid.) Thanks, AxelBoldt 20:15, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Sorry but I think I should clarify myself a little better. Structures in the abdominal are classified as being intraperitoneal or extraperitoneal, depending on whether they have a covering of visceral peritoneum and a mesentery or not. The "peritoneal space" is, as you said, just a space filled with fluid. I knew there was a reason I didn't like anatomy in medical school. Alex.tan 01:43, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hi from E2, ODP and Malaysia[edit]

Hi Alex. I remember you from the time I was active on E2, where I think we did compete on writing articles on Malaysia ;-). Since then I've come over to WP, but was mostly active in ODP until recently. The WP community had grown quite a bit in the last 2 years. Anyway, wouldn't it be nice to have an active group of editors working on Malaysian articles here? I guess Talk:Malaysia would be a good place to coordinate such editing project, right? BTW, I've taken the liberty to add an ==Early discussion== section at the top of this page. -- regards, sabre23t 21:32, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Edit attribution[edit]

Hi Alex. Edits from have now been reattributed to you. Regards Kate Turner | Talk 06:02, 2004 Sep 4 (UTC)

The Humungous Image Tagging Project[edit]

Hi. You've helped with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Syntax, so I thought it worth alerting you to the latest and greatest of Wikipedia fixing project, User:Yann/Untagged Images, which is seeking to put copyright tags on all of the untagged images. There are probably, oh, thirty thousand or so to do (he said, reaching into the air for a large figure). But hey: they're images ... you'll get to see lots of random pretty pictures. That must be better than looking for at at and the the, non? You know you'll love it. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:


Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)


Hi Alex, I wrote a bit on hyperventilation and I was wondering if you could review it and answer my question on Talk:Hyperventilation. Thanks! AxelBoldt 21:48, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

And I wrote a reply for you there. Cheers, AxelBoldt 21:37, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Cranial nerves template[edit]

Thanks for making that template. Even if it does not survive, thanks for taking the time to make it. Qaz

Falling to deaf ears[edit]

Ha, you've landed in the Big Nasty discussion with various Wikipedians on Talk:Deaf. I'm getting concerned that there's a proliferation of articles on deafness that are filled mainly with POV stuff. How was I supposed to know that there are deaf people who have never known the difference and now feel that cochlear implants are being imposed on them? Arguing with Ray Foster has generally been tiresome. He accuses me of bigotry now, so I suppose he will be the subject of an mediation request sometime. JFW | T@lk 16:22, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well, JFW, I thought you were getting outnumbered and needed some support. I didn't like those empty accusations he made of you. Alex.tan 03:51, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I see you VfDed List of notable deaf people, but it seems no entry for VFD was made. Do you still think this page should be deleted? Some of it is actually not too bad (although the list is potentially endless). JFW | T@lk 09:21, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Oops. I moved the page after VFDing list of deaf people. Thanks. Alex.tan 00:20, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Please try to be more desciptive than "Inappropriate article for an encyclopedia." next time you do a VfD, so we can sort out what your actual problem is instead of wasting everyone's time.

--Pengo 14:41, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:SGpedians' notice board[edit]

Our very own notice board is up! Do try to look through and contribute. ;)--Huaiwei 09:05, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Yoz..just a small reminder, in case you have not seen the above yet. :D --Huaiwei 15:17, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Removing the VfD tag.[edit]

Hi Alex, thanks for your help with deciding what to do with the List of deaf people VfD. Just to let you know, even when the consensus appears to be Keep, you should wait until we have finished the VfD process before you remove the boilerplate text stating the article is up for VfD (you can, of course, continue to work on the article during the VfD process, as long as you keep the boilerplate text up). I know that sometimes it seems that the VfD process takes a long time to complete, but if you have a look at the old VfD articles, you can see that we have a huge backlog. Thanks, --Deathphoenix 02:05, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Dentary or not[edit]

Look, I know 'dentary' is a fairly old usage for mandible. But it is correct, and it certainly isn't obsolete. I'm putting it back into the Mandible page. -- Dcfleck 02:29, 2005 Apr 4 (UTC)

At the top of the mandible page is a notice saying the page is about the human mandible. Rewording the usage of the word "dentary". Perhaps it should have its own page? I should clarify that my (human) anatomy book and my dentist and Googling for dentary all refer to it being used in reference to animals, with no reference to it being in use in humans. Alex.tan 04:08, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)


I am pretty sure the lymphatic system has no mechanism for sorting out fats from dissolved vitamins, dissolved iron and dissolved carbohydrates in the area around the small intestines. Since there is no mechanism for keeping other nutrients out of the lymph system the chyle has a lot of other material besides fat in it. It just picks up what's there, in other words, just like in the rest of the body. In fact I have read that the lymphatic system is the only way for any nutrient to get into the body and bloodstream. I am pretty sure about this. I mean, how exactly would vitamins and iron and glucose enter the bloodstream? I don't believe they would just pass through the walls of the capillaries. It may be that digestion is the main attribute of the lymphatic system. Think about it. Wouldn't the vitamins and glucose be dissolved in the fat?--McDogm 16:11, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

You think about it. Why does the portal venous system exist if the lymphatics take all the nutrients from the gut? Why don't the intestines have veins that drain to the vena cava instead of to the liver? Sure, some stuff ends up in the chyle but definitely not everything and certainly not most. Most of the fats end up in the lymph but not the rest. They go straight to the liver. Alex.tan 01:05, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

I think the lymphatic system is very interesting but I am certainly in no position to research it in depth. I am a little surprised that the text I referred to was so emphatic about the point I was making. It stated quite clearly that all the nutrients were present in chyle. This was in 1990 and I thought it was very interesting so I remembered it years later. As my mycetoma reading is more or less up-to-date at this point I am not really worried about my science credibility vis a vis my contribution to Mycetoma and mycetoma-linked articles. I am puzzled by the medical textbook I read in 1990, however. Multiple research input is always an important value. I shouln't complain. Hmmm. I must say I am disappointed in my own Spidey-Sense in this case, but that's par for the course for Spiderman. There is no way I can remember which text it was, unfortunately. I think its amazing that there could be such an important differential between portal system pickup and lymph system pickup of nutrients in the small intestinal or gut area. I wish I had more time spent with the books on this one. And I certainly wish the answers to this issue were more perfectly obvious. I noticed that you have been active in writing articles about Malaysia; I have been going through Asian and African FA pages and creating them and filling them out with lists of teams. I think I actually started Football Association of Malaysia just yesterday. It certainly needs someone to fill it out as it currently just a list and an introductory statement. For instance, Johor and Johor FC both are clubs, in Division B. How is one to know which clubs to add 'FC' to, if any? --McDogm 16:45, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Cerebral hemorrage[edit]

Hi Alex. I noticed your comments at Cerebral hemorrage and thought I'd point out that the article used to be a redirect to Cerebrovascular accident but was made into its own mini-stub a while back (since expanded a bit). I posted several inquiries as to why this was, but got no response. I didn't want to mess with it myself because I don't know anything about medicine. But as I see your a doctor I'll encourage you to go ahead and merge/redirect it back where it seems it belongs. It's good to have knowledgable people working on these articles, as opposed to the kid you made the initial stub. -R. fiend 19:15, 25 May 2005 (UTC)


I wonder if you can help me. I first came into contact with you from my adding to the lymph page. Thanks for explaining that to me. I came back to your page, and to WikiDoc, and I noticed that you have taken a participatory role there. The issue is that I contribute to and create medical pages, mostly in helminthology, and I need to check them with a qualified medical person because I don't want to end up with professionalism issues from producing medical articles in an important science-based encyclopedia. My qualifications would fall into two categories: 1. advanced science study, a mild contact with medicine including 5 years working as a medical terminology typist and in a medical software corporate setting as customer support administrative assistant, associations with medical people within my biological family, a long, successful, involved relationship with a woman from a big Asian-American medical family and 2. a situational qualification in that the articles I have started or added to (Mycetoma, Eumycetoma, Actinomycetoma, The Mycetoma Research Center, miracidium, EPG, and soon cercariae) were all completely unrepresented on the Wikipedia. In other words, if a real doctor had written these articles in the first place I wouldn't find myself in a position of being Hippocratic about the complete lack of documentation of these subjects. On the other hand, if I can write to someone here each time I input some necessary information I wouldn't have to worry about it from the standpoint of professionalism. I am not planning on writing medical articles, but I do like to go through the peer review at EntezPubMed:Schistosomiasis and the Mycetoma Research Center from time to time and it is quite mind-boggling to me to find key words and concepts without even so much as a sub-stub here. It is no problem for me to create stub articles as long as I can report here directly to you when I have completed. Mycetoma is an example of such a subject. I couldn't find a figure on the number of people afflicted with Mycetoma but it seems like a huge problem. At any rate, I only started Wikipedia'ing a month ago, so it has taken me this long to write to you (or WikiDoc). Let me know if it is a problem for me to notify you when I write cercariae and other potential non-existent articles. I really need someone to check them over and edit them after they are input, to make sure there is nothing wrong with them whatsoever. Also, importantly, the people at the University of Khartoum need someone on this end to talk to about mycetoma; I really can't be there for them. And, as far as enhancing my role at WikiDoc, I am far too diversified at this point to begin contributing. Sorry for such a long discussion article. Feel free to move it to an archive when you feel like it. Thanks. --McDogm 18:03, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

On the research side, there is a problem insofar as, as I can assure you, European and American doctors do not grow up with any kind of serious parasitology as part of their background. The closest that schistosomiasis comes to the US is in the form of a few scattered Caribbean emigres in the cities, and the odd tourist mishap, neither of which has any media presence that I know of. There are absolutely no troublesome parasites in Florida or Texas, AFAIK. The closest thing to it is the fire ant problem, and Mexican mycetoma south of the border which has no media presence either at this point, so there is a huge hole in the Wikipedia. On EntrezPubMed:Schistosomiasis there is a huge tranch of articles based on work being done at Dongting Lake south of Wuhan. I get a feeling that the lake is being used as a study area because of its proximity to research centers in China and because of the strong infrastucture in Wuhan. It attracts researchers from all over the world. I would love to write an article about Dongting Lake and link it to this research role, but how do I make a statement about it in a context that is basically peer review, albeit on the Wikipedia? I don't know how to write that. Also, since Hong Kong, Singapore and many other cities lie in the tropics, there must be medical personnel somewhere there who could work on this series of articles. There are 200m diagnosable people at any time on the planet and it doesn't help the Wikipedia to not have produced a commensurate amount of coverage. Again, I apologize for a long article on your discussion page. As soon as I find native Asian tropical medical experts here to consult with on Dongting Lake et al I will try to talk to them instead. I went to ZH and translated about 30 short periodic element pages like Sb and Ta in a long afternoon; it only takes me about a minute to translate a Chinese language medical peer review journal page, using software, and 10 minutes to rewrite it in English, so I can develop some solid knowledge for writing on the Wiki about this stuff, again for review by someone at your level. I only spent a little time reading about this, 15 years ago, and it feels good to get back in the saddle. Let me know.--McDogm 19:57, 28 May 2005 (UTC)

I am not an expert on parasitology but you are welcome to make useful edits to any article you wish. Please note that wikipedia is not a place for original research. Alex.tan 00:05, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

lots of edits, not an admin[edit]

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 13:49, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, while I'm not opposed to the idea of becoming an administrator, I'm not actively seeking to become one. If anyone wants to nominate me, I will accept. :-) Alex.tan 00:10, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Umm, so I guess I'll leave it to you to add an '*' to this list if you'd like. The point of the list is to show that there is a pool of folks who are not admins, who have contributed much, and who might make good admins. I don't think '*' is tantamount to seeking a nomination, but please decide for yourself. -- Rick Block (talk) 01:51, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)

Antarctic krill[edit]

Hallo Alex! thank you for helping on krill - may I ask you to help contributing on and maybe voting if you like it - we try to get input from all over the planet, best academics, want to use the article as academic teaching content for the hatching Wikiversity - best greetings to downunder Uwe Kils Heringmini.jpg 19:29, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)

You're very welcome. It's a good article and I support it for becoming a featured article. :-) Alex.tan 04:40, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Putting a redirect page into a category[edit]

It seems that a while ago you inquired how to do it... It is a simple yet very unobvious trick; if you're still interested, take a look at Category_talk:Eponymous_diseases. GregorB July 5, 2005 19:45 (UTC)

Thanks!Alex.tan July 6, 2005 10:27 (UTC)



you recently voted to delete John 20:16

Uncle G has made a wider proposal covering a much larger group of verses.

would you be prepared to make a similar vote at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Individual Bible verses, which covers the full list of verses in Uncle G's suggestion?

~~~~ 9 July 2005 16:38 (UTC)


I disagree with your recent edit on Reproduction to remove the statement that sexual reproduction has the advantage of being able to mask "bad" genes. While not all dominant genes are good and not all recessive ones are bad, it is certainly the case that species survive better because they can mask those bad genes that are recessive. Perhaps I worded it poorly, but I think it is a sentiment that needs to be included. Jamesmusik 01:13, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

See reply on Talk:Reproduction. Alex.tan 01:23, July 14, 2005 (UTC)

The bible[edit]

Firstly let me say that I am sorry to have to bother you.

Secondly, I wish to let you know that a recent VFD that you took part in has closed. The result was that 32 people voted to keep all individual bible verses as seperate articles, and 34 voted that they shouldn't (2 abstensions, and 3 votes for both). This is considered by standard policy not to be a consensus decision (although the closing admin stated that it was a consensus to keep them).

Thirdly, the subject has now been put to a survey, so that it may remain open until there is a clear consensus for what appears to be a difficult issue to resolve. You may wish to take part in this survey, and record a similar vote to the one you made at the VFD there. The survey is available at Wikipedia:Bible verses.

~~~~ 18:23, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

re: arm[edit]

Hi there, I removed the text from the arm so that I could redistribute on separate pages. To be strict, the arm should only contain information from the shoulder to the elbow. The hand, forearm and such should be placed on forearm and separate pages. If there should be general information, it should be moved to upper limb as that is anatomically correct. This is all part a new drive to sort out administration problems (there are serious issues with redirect that are just incorrect, eg upper limb to arm, anatomically incorrect.) Have a look here

I checked the two pages I edited last night and found that you have edited just hours after I edited on both of them. Are you checking up on my work? PhatRita 11:27, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Categorizing articles on Teeth[edit]

Thankyou so much for your help in changing the category to teeth on a whole bunch of articles and stubs of mine. I don't think I had noticed there was even a Teeth category at all, but it makes complete sense. Thanks again. -Dozenist talk 01:51, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

There wasn't a category on teeth - I just created it. You're very welcome, by the way. Alex.tan 01:53, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Personally, I agree that the technical term should be the main article. Thus, "dental caries" should be the article "dental cavities" is directed to, but I did not do that because I figured that essentially it ends up being the same thing. The two should be the same article since they have the same definition, but I do agree with your assessment that *technically* dental cavities should redirect to dental caries (in my humble opinion). - Dozenist talk 03:00, 3 August 2005 (UTC)


Hi! You showed support for Asthma, this week's Medicine Collaboration of the Week. You are invited to help improve it! — Knowledge Seeker 18:41, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Hi! You showed support for Pneumonia, this week's Medicine Collaboration of the Week. You are invited to help improve it! — Knowledge Seeker 09:48, August 10, 2005 (UTC)

Nikki Hemming[edit]

I have rewritten the article in order to establish notability. I would be grateful if you could have a look at it and see what you think. Capitalistroadster 05:17, 13 August 2005 (UTC)


I have had a go at the pneumonia investigation section (see entry in talk page) as this was very much written from a medical textbook/hospital approach, whereas most cases are treated in the community. Hence most cases (in UK) get no investigations, sputum culture often done, Xray less frequently and the rest rarely. The original was shorter, but not what a patient (ie wikipedia viewer) might typical expect. Please do have a look at my edit and change if structure/english needs improving, I really wont mind :-) David Ruben 19:55, 17 August 2005 (UTC)


I noticed you did some cleaning up on this article; thanks! Is it common wikipedia style to have section titles with only the first word capitalized and the rest lowercase? If so I shall be sure to follow that in the future. Also, I notice you removed my horizontal lines from the article. I thought those helped section the article a bit, as it looked a bit crowded with all the anatomy subsections. I'd like to hear why you disagree with their use. Cheers! Semiconscious (talk · home) 15:50, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

  • We've returned to horizontal lines as per the page's talk page. If the global template changes, we can fix the issue. As for now, the seperator lines offer an easier flow and better style to the page. Thanks for your input though, we really appreciate it. Semiconscious (talk · home) 21:54, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

Rheumatoid arthritis on WP:MCOTW[edit]

Hi! You showed support for Rheumatoid arthritis, this week's Medicine Collaboration of the Week. You are invited to help improve it! — Knowledge Seeker 07:34, August 24, 2005 (UTC)

Hippocampus and Strabismus[edit]

  • Thanks for your voice over in the weird hippocampus discussion. I'm honestly curious to get your feedback: was I out of line, or did I sound like I didn't get the point the other user is making? I'm honestly rather confused about what's going on over there.
  • Thanks also for the medial strabismus redirect. Had I even thought about it for a minute, I would have realized to merge that bit of info into the main strabismus article. Semiconscious (talk · home) 21:54, 26 August 2005 (UTC)


Was so bold as to place category physician on your user page. The MD's are now easy to find. :-) --Nomen Nescio 02:27, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Hydrogen Peroxide Edits[edit]

Hi Alex

I'm new to editing, so if you're the wrong person, whoops :-)

There have been a few edits on the hydrogen peroxide entry, and some of the stuff has been removed, with 'removed unciteable reference'. What does that mean, and how do I fix it? Or rather, what do I need to provide? One of the items I included was a URL to the page on the FDA server that mentions that H2O2 is GRAS, and that was also removed.

What am I doing wrong?

Jdoller 20:01, 29 August 2005 (UTC)


Alex, the other day you wanted one of us to get over to the Lymphathic system article to help explain EBM, Cochrane etc to a lay reader. I went over, but you guys seemed to have come to some sort of agreement, so I didn't enter into the discussion. If in future it becomes a concern once more, and you want one of us to join the discussion, feel free to drop me a line. Cheers—encephalonέγκέφαλος  19:32:55, 2005-09-05 (UTC)



Hi: My name is Tess and I work for a global independent research firm in New York. I am interested in hiring you for a Wikipedia editing project, based on your technology and medical experience and expertise. I attempted to email you through your user page. If you received it, please read it over and contact me with any questions. If you did not receive this email, please let me know and I would be more than happy to tell you more about this project. (You can call 512-651-1797 or email Thank you and I hope to hear from you soon! Tess - Gerson Lehrman Group 18:35, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

Replied via email. Alex.tan 02:46, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[edit] is an international internet institution. Don't vote down just because the wikiNazis have gotten to you. Rabryan 06:25, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, right. You know, I've got some snake oil you might be interested in. Alex.tan 04:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Squatting and hemorrhoids[edit]

How would you feel about replacing the following text in the squat toilet article:

"Squatting is believed by some (absent medical evidence) to relieve and prevent virtually all colorectal disorders (constipation, Crohn's disease, colitis, etc.)"

with this text:

"Squatting has been shown to relieve and prevent hemorrhoids (see external link below)"

I added a link to the Townsend article on this subject. --Jonathan108 16:49, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

I read that article and it states "One proposed way to prevent and cure haemorrhoids is to squat for defaecation. The evidence for this approach is ambiguous." - I take that as sufficient to mean that they did not prove anything. Alex.tan 01:00, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
Did you read past that point? And did you read the original research presented here? --Jonathan108 15:40, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
I did read it. That was just the best quote from the article and besides, the article did not give any good evidence that squatting (or not squatting) causes hemorrhoids. Another notable quote from your quoted article is "Our conclusion is that the question of the efficacy of squatting as a way of preventing or curing haemorrhoids remains to be resolved.". You want to quote this article as evidence for your statement as stated above, yet the article itself says it did not prove anything conclusively. Alex.tan 20:23, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

If a 90% cure rate is not "good evidence" I don't know what is. The article states: "Sikirov (1987) advised 20 patients who suffered from haemorrhoids to change their toilet habits in two ways: to wait until the urge to defaecate was strong and to defaecate in the squatting position. Of the 20 patients, 18 reported within a few days to a few months a significant reduction or complete absence of symptoms. The two who showed no improvement had previously had surgical treatments for haemorrhoids. Follow-up examinations, 12 and 30 months later, revealed no recurrence of haemorrhoids."

--Jonathan108 00:53, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

P.S. The article does not explain its own comment that the evidence is "ambiguous" or that the efficacy is "unresolved". So, I agree that this article would not be an ideal link. Perhaps the link should be to the Sikirov patent. His paper in the peer-reviewed Israel Journal of Medical Science does not seem to be available on line, but the patent has all the same information. --Jonathan108 15:34, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

nonsense. Alex.tan 04:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

2005 Kashmir earthquake[edit]

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Oops, sorry. Guess I've been out of med school too long. Nice catch. -Ikkyu2 06:52, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

No problems, mate. Alex.tan 17:29, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

Emergency department[edit]

I wonder if you would consider supporting Emergency department at Wikipedia:Article improvement drive, to raise the profile of medicine on the wikipedia. The ED is a key area where the public receive emergency care, but the current article is very inadequate. Perhaps you can give some insight into the emergency department in Australasia.--File Éireann 23:31, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Emergency department[edit]

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We were both editing the page at the same time. I went back and made sure I incorporated your changes (proper capitalization of headers, and pruning the external links) and think I got them all, but you might want to take a look and confirm. And if I did clobber anything you did, my apologies. --Arcadian 00:57, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Neuroscience[edit]

Hey Alex: I'm trying to revive the Wikipedia:WikiProject Neuroscience and thought you might care to join us over there. How've you been? Semiconscious (talk · home) 09:07, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Alkhemi and Aladin[edit]

Hi, back in October05 you participated in the deletion-discussion about a company called Alkhemi ([1]), which was subsequently deleted with your vote. Now the same deletion question is posed for another article about the man behind Alkhemi, a magician who calls himself Aladin. Despite being a truly bad article (extremely biased, outrages claims are made, and the sources used to back up those claims consist largely out of tiny newspaper snippets that are blown up out of proportion to make the subject sound like the second coming of the christ), the vote is so far flooded with "keep" votes, which might be because of dozens of sockpuppets, so I'd like to invite you to add your vote about this matter to tip the balance. The vote is here. Thank you :-) Peter S. 21:07, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Articles For Deletion[edit]

Hi, a while ago you made some comments about the presence of bible-verse articles, and/or source texts of the bible, and you may therefore be interested in related new discussions:

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proposed policy[edit]

Hi, you recently commented on bible-verse articles, and may therefore be interested in commenting about a proposed policy covering roughly 50 specific verses:

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Recently an article was deleted, entitled Nochaa.

This article was refered to as a vanity article. Everyone from south wales would like to let alex.tan know that he is an idiot and that Nochaa are one of those most important bands in our small corner of the world. Our small corner that houses TJ's, a peice of music heritage, the place where kurt cobain proposed to Courtney Love, the place where Iron Maiden were asked to turn their Amps down, the place where every band in existence wants to play.

This page was designed to be informative and give information to fans that they wouldnt find ANYWHERE else on the net but certain people on this website disagreed with this and out of either fear or plain envy they deleted the bands article. As the bands closest fan i would like you to know that when nochaa make it to the top, which they will do soon, i will let all of our fans know exactly who it was that didnt beleive in the band and exactly who it was that tried to slow their progress.

Nobody should be allowed to just decide whats good enough for the users of this website to read. This is supposed to be an open forum for the world. If Certain members of this forum wish to cleanse the archives to meet THEIR desires and no-one elses then that doesnt seem fair to me. There was another group of people that cleansed to meet their satisfaction and they were called NAZI's.

When Nochaa make it to the top of their industry im sure we'll be able to stop this website from publishing any article on the band at all, denying you thousands of website hits everyday.

good day

That article went through the usual wikipedia article deletion process and was found wanting, not up to the standards of WP:MUSIC. Alex.tan 23:48, 31 January 2006 (UTC)


In 2003 you suggested such an article was needed (Vaccination - talk). The owner of set up one called vaccine critics, which was later rfa'd and deleted. There is one now at anti-vaccinationists which is a horror, but I think a nucleus out of whcih something usable may come. You might care to have a look at it... Midgley 00:57, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on it. Alex.tan 04:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Please check your WP:NA entry[edit]

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Deletion of Image from TCard[edit]


What was the nature of the image you deleted from the TCard article. As the filename has DSC####.JPG, i believe this may well have been a valid image, if so it can be undeleted. Was a license tag given with the image? User A1 08:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

If you look carefully at my edit history, I did not delete the image, only the text which was lifted as a copyvio from the website cited. Alex.tan 10:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

My mistake. Do you remember what the photo was? Should i ask for it to be undeleted? User A1 01:23, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

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Copper & Glaucoma[edit]

Dear Dr. Tan

I am in Newark, New Jersey, United States and I recently came across your 2000 everything2 post regarding copper and glaucoma. I represent a blind man who made brass (alloy of copper and zinc) lamps for many, many, many years. He used a metal grinder on a daily basis. His eyes were chronicly inflamed and irritated by brass particals in his eyes. He lost his sight to glaucoma.

I am looking into the connection between his work and his glaucoma. I suspect that the copper in the brass caused uveitis that progressed to glaucoma. But, I can't seen to find any supporting authority on the internet. I was delighted to find your post on the subject.

Your post reads:

chalcosis (thing) by alex.tan (2.7 y) Fri May 26 2000 at 7:44:56 Eye irritation caused by fragments of copper or copper alloy being lodged in the eye. It may lead to glaucoma, uveitis, abscess formation, and loss of the eye.

Finding your post was like finding a message in a bottle.

Please reply by e-mail with any information or advice.

Thank you.

-- Edward M. Colligan Colligan & Colligan Attorneys at Law 17 Academy Street Newark, NJ 07102 973-623-6665 Fax 973-623-3852 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 15:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC).

Well, thanks for the recognition but I do not give medical advice over the internet. I believe your client should be seeking professional (eye) advice in person from a qualified ophthalmologist. Alex.tan 16:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


in a different universe, a long long time ago (well, 2003 anyways), you wrote, that heparin is digested, instead of just not being taken up. Could you supply a reference for that? I was looking for one and was disappointed, that the article states what I had suspected (that heparin is destroyed, not only not taken up), but does not state a reference supporting the fact.
Iridos 22:25, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

A protein that is digested by the stomach and gastrointestinal tract is effectively destroyed (into component amino acids) so it means the same thing. Alex.tan (talk) 16:18, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Er, yes? But Heparin is not a protein - and hence it is not trivial to say if it is digested, taken up in its original form or passes the gastrointestinal tract without being changed. DSS (Dextran sulfate sodium) is very similar in its structure to heparin - and it passes the intestine unscathed it is indeed used to induce colitis in mice and for that purpose is just added to their food. So as this is not a completely trivial statement, having a citation to back it up would be nice - if not to say necessary (although the exact wording of that sentence has now been changed to "is degraded"). Where did you get that information from originally? Iridos (talk) 21:09, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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