User talk:Allenandendal

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Endal (dog)[edit]

I came across this page during RC patrol. I must say, I've seen the way its shaped up and I'm impressed by how quickly you've learnt the formatting and wikifying of the page. There are a few things I would like to point out -

  • The page is about the dog, so the Parton's biography probably shouldn't be here, it could be on his own page if he satisfies the notability criteria (see- WP:N) or it would have to be shortened.
  • We need a few references for the awards that Endal has recieved. No doubt he is an amazing dog, but we would require newspaper citations, or the links to some websites which carry an article or mention Endal.
  • Basically, we need reliability, as per WP:CITE. Please have a look at the pages I've mentioned, they'll give you a good start of where to look.

I'm overworked right now, so I don't know when I'll be on WP next, if you have any questions or any comments drop by on my talk page. You're doing a great job, keep it up! xC | 13:59, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Relevant to Wiki?[edit]

I am not terribly sure what it is that is going to be achieved here. Within the assistance dog industry in the UK this story is felt to be unsubstantiated in many areas. There are thousands of assistance dogs in the UK who go about their work with their disabled partners day in day out, the unsung heroes of the canine world.

Why does this dog in particular deserve a Wiki entry? The countless articles about this dog and his apparent talents don't really address the serious issues of dispute. Many of the articles are driven by the dogs owner, there do not appear to be any credible neutral opinions if you google this subject. I'm also dubious whether in fact the noteable criteria are really met.

Using the wayback machine to study early press reports about this couple, clearly illustrates the story has far more detail now that it ever did before! Does memory improve with time?!

I find it really contentious that Wiki would support an article that will not stand up to peer review. If people wish to learn abut the Endal story they simply need to google, this adds nothing to Wiki at all; in fact, it detracts from the impartial, neutral nature of the site. 16:09, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Relevant to Wiki? reply[edit]

The category that Endal has been entered into is famous dogs, I believe he more than meets the requirements. As you stated if you "Google" Endal you will find a vast array of articles about him. "Within the assistance dog industry in the UK this story is felt to be unsubstantiated in many areas" I have great difficulty understanding your comments that what Endal does, as stated in the Wikipedia article, is unsubstantiated, can you be more specific and elaborate. What areas of the assistance dog industry do you refer W?

We have been faced with reporters and film producers that have stated at the start they will not report on anything that the dog cannot do, normally they leave at the end of the session stating that they won't be able to fit everything in. We have set up reconstructions of various events in a controlled environments and each time Endal has shown his ability to be sound and constant.

Endal has had over 300 hundred film crews from around the world film him going about his daily activities, these include numerous appearances on BBC 1, ITV, Channel Four BBC 2, CNN, Dogs with Jobs, Pro 7 and the endless list goes on. It is not the case of an over enthusiastic owner writing articles about Endal, the press will only report on the fact and actuality. The difficulty being is listing them all and swamping the Wikipedia article

Endal is currently half way through filming a movie about his story and that of Allen Parton. The Sunday Times magazine, dated May 7th, 2006, listed Endal as one of the ten superdogs of History (none fictional), a more than credible source of fame? His abilities have more than be recognised by his being awarded the title Dog of the millennium in 1991 and numerous other major awards, a good news paper search in the wayback files brings up much credible information on Endal. Your criticism, is though anonymous and as such recognised problem in Wikipedia. I find it difficult to understand why anyone would attach the credibility of a dog, is it because he cannot defend himself by responding.

I agree that references to various awards need to be added at some stage to the article but my fear is it is not the clever things that Endal does that makes him so is his ability to be one of the nice guys of the assistance dog world for the last ten years that endears him to the public world wide. I am very pleased that you to follow Endal's story/fame by taking the time Googling him on the web, would you do that if if he was not such a famous dog? It is such a shame that you choses to hide behind the cloak of anonymity yet make such bold claims!— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 13:56, 19 April 2007


hey there allen,

disappointed to see that the article has been put up for deletion. i voted keep, hopefully it will survive the afd, i see no reason to remove an article which asserts notability.

i'm going on an indefinite wikibreak from today, so i probably won't be looking over my watchlist. feel free to email me if you have any questions, or you could contact one of the other editors who'd offered to help on the article talk page.

best regards,xC | 18:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)


I have replaced the copyright violation notice. If you do indeed hold the copyright to this text, you need to do more than assert it. you need to follow Wikipedia's policies on how to authenticate this. Please don't remove the tage, instead read it. It tells you what you need to do. However, consider also that the text isn't in a tone suitable for an encyclopedia anyway. It is suitable for a newspaper column not a reference work. Perhaps you could ask one of the users that is keen to keep the article to help you rewrite it.--Docg 19:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

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Hey there[edit]


Hadn't heard from you in a bit, so I thought I'd drop by and see how things are going? Have you found any new pages to work on?

Happy editing and take care,xC | 12:20, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Thats great news, Allen. Wish you all the best in all the articles you work on :) xC | 16:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

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Regarding this edit: [1] - I have no idea why you contacted me. I have never heard of the subject of the article, nor edited any related article. How did you find my name in connection with your point? —Vanderdeckenξφ 02:41, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

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