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Onega[edit]

Hi, many thanks for your edits to Onega! Just a request; when you add information to articles about the Vendian biota, could you try not to remove information that's already there? I understand if you aren't comfortable integrating your additions to the existing text, but if you could add content at the end of the article, it'll be incorporated quickly enough; this is better than potentially losing information, as almost happened at Onega. Many thanks, Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 02:47, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Vendiidae Question[edit]

Is Pseudovendia also a member of Vendiidae?--Mr Fink (talk) 03:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

Two Pseudovendia fossils have been found:
  • P. charnwoodensis from Charnwood Forest, England. (Ford, T.D. & Boynton, H.E. 1979. "Pseudovendia charnwoodensis - a new Precambrian arthropod from Charnwood Forest, Leicestershire". Mercian Geologist, 7, 175-177.)
  • And undescribed fossil from Syuzma River, Onega Peninsula of the White Sea, Russia. That Mikhail Fedonkin has named Pseudovendia sp.. (Fedonkin, M.A., 1985. "Non-skeletal fauna of the Vendian: promorphological analysis." In: Sokolov, B.S. and Iwanowski, A.B., eds., "The Vendian System. Vol. 1. Paleontology". Moscow, Nauka, p. 70-106. (In Russian))
Russian P. sp. has been placed into Vendomiidae Keller, 1976 (Fedonkin, 1985). As Vendomia is a junior synonym of Dickinsonia, the use of the proarticulate family name Vendomiidae has been discontinued (Ivantsov, 2004, 2007), new name this family is Vendiidae. P. sp. is probably real Proarticulata but it considered as the uncertain form (Ivantsov, pers. mess.).
P. charnwoodensis are frond-like organism (Jankins, 1992) or pseudofossil (Grazhdankin, 2007) or anything another. -- Aleksey (talk) 11:21, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
At first, I was skeptical that P. charnwoodensis was possibly a rangeomorph, but, then I looked at the fossil again... Hmmmm... Do you have a copy of the Jankins or Grazhdankin papers that discuss it?--Mr Fink (talk) 14:08, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry for the delay for this reply.

  • Grazhdankin, 2007. (pages 15-16) http://www.le.ac.uk/gl/charnia2007/AbstractBooklet2007r.pdf
  • R. Jenkins, 1992. "Functional and Ecological Aspects of Ediacaran Assemblages", pp 131-176. In Jere H. Lipps, Philip W. Signor "Origin and Early Evolution of the Metazoa". 1992. Springer. Only this (p. 143): These comprise various discoidal forms, the frondose Charnia masoni and Charniodiscus concentricus, a comparatively large bushlike form with multiple fronds, and a putative arthropod, Pseudovendia charnwoodensis Boyton and Ford, 1979. I translated it into Russian inattentively. Henceforth I will be more careful. :-)

It is senseless to discuss the Pseudovendia charnwoodensis because this fossil represented by only one VERY bad preserved specimen and so it can be anything.
It is necessary some quantity of specimens to understand nature of Vendian fossil organism.
And not all frond-like organism are rangeomorph. Charniodiscus, Khatyspytia, Vaizitsinia, Pambikalbae it is not rangeomorph. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 23:08, 30 January 2009 (UTC))

And only now did I finally get around to making that edit about Pseudovendia in Vendiamorpha.--Mr Fink (talk) 01:15, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Yorgia[edit]

Hi, thanks for uploading the new Yorgia images! The trace fossil is particularly spectacular. All the best, Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 01:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Small shelly fossils[edit]

Yes, I actually prefer that name too :-)

Thanks for adding the Dzik (1994) citation. However it's not correctly formatted. The easiest solution is to use a citation template, andthere's a tool that makes it a very simple task well over 90% of the time. If you got to your "preferences" page, in the tab "Gadgets" there is a checkbox "refTools, adds a "cite" button to the editing toolbar for quick and easy addition of commonly used citation templates". Click this then click "Save". This places in the edit box a button that shows a form where you paste in the title, author(s), etc. Then place the cursor in the right place in the edit box' text, click "Add citation" and it does just that, including all the wiki-markup. Two notes:

  • The "Cite journal" option does not have a DOI box (I've requested this), and I always insert | doi=....... afterwards if the source provides a DOI.
  • If you specify a URL, you must also specify accessdate - in format yyyy-mm-dd, don't ask me why.

Best wishes, --Philcha (talk) 06:32, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Aleksey, thanks for adding the Dzik 1994 ref to support the point about morphological variety. However that paper was already used below. I've followed the usual method on en.wp:

  • Given a name to one version that contains the full details, e.g. <ref name=Dzik1994 />{{cite ... }}</ref>
  • Simply used the ref's name elsewhere, e.g. <ref name=Dzik1994 /> - the / is essential when re-using a ref! --Philcha (talk) 19:06, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Sub-pages[edit]

You seem to be using your Talk page to keep notes. I suggest it's better to use sub-pages of your user page for this, so that your Talk page is only for discussions. I use sub-pages a lot, see my sandbox, which is really more like a construction site. Then if you want to keep stuff private you don't link any of your other pages to it, or use a small and not-obvious link. --Philcha (talk) 06:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Template:Small shelly fauna graphical timeline[edit]

Sorry, I seem to be pestering you a lot this morning. I suggest you create a sub-page to work on the timeline, so that its intermediate states are not visible in articles - then copy the sub-page version into the real one when everything's working OK. If you're concerned about someone else changing the real template while you're working on the sub-page version, put an {{underconstruction}} template on the real one. --Philcha (talk) 07:19, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Hi, Aleksey. You've been inaactive on en.WP for a while so I guess you're at work now. I've copied the SSF timeline to User:Alnagov/SSF timeline so you can work on it there, and will undo your changes to the main version at {{Small shelly fauna graphical timeline}} and then put an {{underconstruction}} template on it. --Philcha (talk) 08:40, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome. I don't know whether you do much on the Russian Wikipedia, but English Wikipedia seesm to have by far the most tools, guidelines, etc. - which is helpful once you know them, but a hell of a lot to learn. User:Philcha#Tools has a list of some of the things I've found most useful, you should make your own notes about those you find useful. Please leave me a message if you need any help. --Philcha (talk) 15:01, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Halkieria[edit]

I see you're back - excellent! Is there anything you can cite for the earliest Halkieriid fossils? --Philcha (talk) 16:37, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Skolithos[edit]

I've nothing against the Russians! You'll notice that the comment on horizontal trace fossils is in fact cited to Fedonkin. I removed the paragraph as, as it stood, it seemed to contradict itself and was difficult to follow. I didn't have time to check the sources and re-write it at the time; I've gone back to them now and re-inserted a reference to Skolithos. Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 16:55, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Mollusca[edit]

Hi, Alexey! I suggest the detailed material you added to Mollusca about Helcionellids would be better at Helcionellids - Mollusca is already a long article, and cannot have room for details about all taxa. If the same material was at Helcionellids instead, you could expand there and then perhaps summarise the most important items at other articles, e.g. Cambrian explosion. --Philcha (talk) 14:07, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Cambrian_explosion#Ediacaran.E2.80.93Early_Cambrian_skeletalization[edit]

Hello! I copy-edited the section Cambrian_explosion#Ediacaran.E2.80.93Early_Cambrian_skeletalization to add some wikilinks and touch up the grammar. Please would you review it to check I've understood your meaning (I didn't want to change the meaning at all). Also, I could not guess what "even-aged" means. Could you try another phrase please? Thanks very much --Stfg (talk) 16:54, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello again Aleksey. Thanks for reviewing it as I requested. I have changed "even-aged deposits" into "deposits of the same age" and for the tubes I've used the wording you gave on my talk page. Thanks very much for contributing your expertise so generously! Simon --Stfg (talk) 10:20, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Cambrian ISC[edit]

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Cambrian ISC has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Mhiji (talk) 15:35, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

Phoronids[edit]

Hi, Aleksey. Do you think it would be fun to suggest that Temereva or another expert you know should use "How can such a small phylum cause so much confusion?" Then you could use it as a headline (e.g. blockquote) in Phoronid#Taxonomy - with a first-class citation. WP is too solemn and and needs some humour! --Philcha (talk) 12:20, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

Thank you for updating the notes in {{Cambrian_graphical_timeline}}! I was thinking of doing it soon but you beat me to it. Do you maybe have time to look at: {{Ordovician_graphical_timeline}}. I'm having a little trouble with all the extra text inside of the box. -cheers --Tobias1984 (talk) 21:01, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Great work![edit]

Thanks for your sketch of Andiva, brilliant! And thanks for all the support you're giving me on working through the Ediacara pages. --Cyclopiatalk 14:28, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Can you have a look at Arumberia now, by the way? :p --Cyclopiatalk 14:28, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Soft-Bodied Trilobite From Rawnsley Quartzite[edit]

Do you happen to have any information about the alleged "soft-bodied trilobite(s)" from the Ediacara Member of the Rawnsley Quartzite in Australia? Thank you in advance.--Mr Fink (talk) 04:49, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

The Australian "soft-bodied trilobite" is the Archaeaspinus fedonkini (=Archaeaspis fedonkini). Andrey Ivantsov wrote about this (Ivantsov 2001). In recent articles, australians mention this fossil as Archaeaspis (Droser et al. 2006)

Australian specimens:

Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 09:13, 9 February 2013 (UTC))

Thank you so much for clearing up the creatures' identity for me!

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Trilobozoa[edit]

Since you've started reorganization of the page Trilobozoa, should we remove references to the conulariids beyond Vendoconularia?--Mr Fink (talk) 23:02, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

You're right, Vendoconularia is not Trilobozoa. I'll add comment about varied Ediacaran-Early Cambrian animals with three-radial symmetry in the page Trilobozoa. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 08:49, 17 March 2013 (UTC))
Good, then.--Mr Fink (talk) 14:44, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion[edit]

You think we should unlink the links of the synonymized/invalid taxa in the List of Ediacaran genera?--Mr Fink (talk) 15:32, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

You're right, it is creates confusion. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 10:00, 11 April 2013 (UTC))
Pardon about the Charnia holdfast stuff concerning the ivesheadiomorphs: I read somewhere that (I thought) said that they were invalid taxa because they were determined/thought to be decayed holdfasts of either Charnia or some similar frond-organism.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:52, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
You correctly remembered it. It is decayed bodyes. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 16:56, 11 April 2013 (UTC))

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Talk:List of Ediacaran genera[edit]

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Smith609's bad articles[edit]

[1] User:Smith609 has created many nonsense articles, with sources not related to the article. I have no idea what to do about this. He claims to be a phd student an admin, but I wonder if the account is compromised or if he is creating hoaxes. I went through his edit history, and he had problems before when his bot created nonsense articles, and he aggressively defended them. --(AfadsBad (talk) 06:56, 4 October 2013 (UTC))

Martin really a phd student (in paleonthology) and wiki-admin. But it does not matter. He's often inattentive and uses a strange references,... it is bad.
  • If article is a hoax - delete it.
  • If article like "Stomatoporina is a genus of stenolaematan bryozoans". I do not understand the meaning of the creation of such articles. There are special databases for this information. In addition, wikipedia clones create hundreds of copies of this meaningless articles, which makes it difficult to find good information.
Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 15:30, 4 October 2013 (UTC))
Yes, the cloning is bad, but he won't fix them. I nominated this for deletion. He needs to stop, but I don't know how to stop him. --(AfadsBad (talk) 17:43, 4 October 2013 (UTC))

Template:Cryogenian graphical timeline[edit]

This template is never looks updated yet. why you not update it?--27.111.58.61 (talk) 01:26, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Request concerning a Cambrian bogart[edit]

My dear friend Alnagov, do you happen to have or have access to any pictures of the Lower Cambrian stenothecoid mollusc Cambridium?--Mr Fink (talk) 23:42, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Mr Fink! I have found several paperts about stenothecoid molluscs on english EARLY CAMBRIAN STENTHECOID MOLLUSCS FROM CHINA.pdf, Stenothecoida 1969.pdf. And papers on russian Stenothecoids 1984.pdf, Stenothecoids 1985.pdf. I have added translation to english for some figs. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 17:38, 21 January 2014 (UTC))
Thank you so much for the papers! I was starting drawing Cambridium, but as I was looking through my own references, I found that the only reference I could find was the picture in my copy of the Treatise on Invertebrate Paleontology.--Mr Fink (talk) 19:31, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Another Cambrian Question[edit]

Have you ever heard of a Cambrian poriferan genus called Korovinella (syn=Kazachstanicyathus)? I've been looking for information about it, and have gotten conflicting results, namely that some sources refer to it as a (kazachstanicyathid) archaeocyathan, while others refer to it as a stromatoporoidean, even though it's from the Lower Cambrian, and literally all sources state that the earliest stromatoporoideans are Ordovician.--Mr Fink (talk) 22:09, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

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A Request/Question[edit]

Alnagov, my friend, how are you doing? You don't suppose I could ask if you have any information or photographs of Affinovendia?--Mr Fink (talk) 21:17, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi, Stanton! Good, we with Andrey Ivantsov and Mikhail Fedonkin are preparing a new joint article about Onega stepanovi, and other more intresting papers. Affinovendia arctosa specimen comes from Rusophycus avalonensis ichnozone of the Mattaya Fm, uppermost Fortunian Stage, Early Cambrian, Olenek River, Siberia. At present, this fossil has been reinterpretated as trace fossil Treptichnus lublinensis. Photo, scale bar 1 cm. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 22:39, 27 March 2018 (UTC))
Thank you very much! Please let me know when your paper on Onega is out, so I can update a book I'm working on that will feature it.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:37, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
OK. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 08:18, 29 March 2018 (UTC))

Another Question/Solicitation of Advice[edit]

In the paper on the Iranian Precambrian fauna in Kushk and Chama, the organism Gibbavasis kushkii is described as being similar to Ausia fenestrata. Would you think it would be original research to reconstruct G. kushkii as being a tunicate on the assumption that Ausia is a tunicate, too? At least, as per the paper about Burykhia?--Mr Fink (talk) 05:21, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

It will be an unstable pyramid of assumptions without any facts. If you take away one assumption, the whole pyramid collapses. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 09:19, 9 May 2018 (UTC))
True, a pyramid made of sea squirts would not be a stable tomb.--Mr Fink (talk) 15:10, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
There are doubts that the Iranian fossils are Ediacaran in age, and that they are imprints of soft-bodied organisms. Patricia Vickers-Rich was bringing Iranian fossils to Moscow... Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 15:36, 9 May 2018 (UTC))