User talk:Altamel

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Oregon Law[edit]

Per your note to another user, I thought you should know that the Oregon Legislative Counsel Committee won't be pursuing any copyright claims re: the ORS. Whew. It's still a bad idea to post the text of bills, of course. Cheers, Valfontis (talk) 05:22, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

@Valfontis: Well, that certainly is good to hear—though under WP:NFC posting the full text might still be a bad idea. I'm sorry to see you've had some trouble with the page author; thanks for maintaining a reasonable level of patience given the circumstances. Hopefully everything works out. Though I have to say, your state legislature is awesome! (you've probably seen this already). Thanks, Altamel (talk) 05:51, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
I don't even have to look, it has to be Rick Astley! :) And yes, they are. Valfontis (talk) 05:57, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
  • Hello: Regarding this edit: Consensus is that all edicts of government, without exception, including laws of Oregon, are public domain in the United States: Wikipedia:Public domain#Works ineligible for copyright protection and #Public records. This consensus seems to be based on case law and the position of the US Copyright Office. I am under the impression that there is no consensus to remove such material only because a state government wrongly claims it is copyrighted. However, Bills introduced into a legislature, which have not been passed by that legislature, are not laws or "edicts of government". So Senate Bill 166 isn't a law and will presumably be copyrighted for that reason. Best regards. James500 (talk) 23:13, 8 March 2015 (UTC)


Hereby I present you with a lead image ... Hafspajen (talk) 13:59, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Very appropriate analogy. Altamel (talk) 23:10, 6 March 2015 (UTC)


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Hello, Altamel. You have new messages at Lost on belmont's talk page.
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(Misplaced message, June 8)[edit]

Your post on my talk page is blasphemy and lies. How can you say anything is 'fact' when there is no evidence that everything we see isn't just a hallucination or an illusion? reality is just what the world collectively agrees is true. When someone experiences a hallucination we say what they see or hear isn't real because the majority do not sense it, but in reality there is no evidence what we sense is even there. Everything is opinion, even the so called 'facts' on this website. If this is such an 'objective' site, why should the opinion of the minority on what constitutes 'fact' be censored because of the opinion of the majority? Nothing in the end has any proof of reality, and fact itself is nothing but a fragile and false concept. Such clinging to concepts such as that is petty and illogical. Besides, it has a citation. I've done my research on this, this is objectively true — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lily1155 (talkcontribs) 04:11, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

RFC/N discussion of the username "NotAnOmbudsman"[edit]

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My RfA[edit]

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Thank for !voting at my recent RfA. You voted Support so you get a whopping three cookies, fresh from the oven!
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A trophy for you![edit]

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Exactly one month ago, you welcomed me to Wikipedia. I thank you for this, as now my editing skills have greatly increased, and I have found my place within the community of contributors. Just thought I'd show my appreciation! The best, Coderenius (talk) 17:35, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
@Coderenius: Gosh, thanks! This just made my day. I see you also got your first DYK, so congratulations! Keep up the good work, and if you have any article work you want me to look at, please, call me over. Altamel (talk) 17:45, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
@Altamel: I will be sure to if I ever have the need, thank you! Coderenius (talk) 17:51, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

(Misplaced message, July 23)[edit]

I'm new at this but I have some information for the Mel Gibson page for u. I heard all this straight from my Gramma, who was friends with him when he lived on the Beartooth and heard this from him she even bought his Suburban when he went off to film Braveheart. He wasn't looking forwardto filming that movie) : [Mel bought (for 2 mil) and lived on the Beartooth Ranch, between Columbus and Big Timber in Montana from the 80's to the 90's. His parents considered Montana to be their home and the Beartooth Ranch was Mel's escape from the stress and politics of Hollywood.]Sconant93 (talk) 15:10, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Mel Gibson page[edit]

Hey I was on the Mel gibson page and ir wouldn't let me edit it and it was locked for vandalism protection and I notice that the top of the page it said you were the last one to edit it so I figured you were able to edit. So maybe then you'd be able to add that information cuz I can't. Sorry I'm new at this I just started today I was hearing this information straight from Grandma and I felt like I should add it. Didnt know how to open discussion Sconant93 (talk) 21:09, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

@Sconant93: Got it. I'm sorry, I got a little flustered and should have posted here instead. Let's keep any future comments on this page, that was my bad for splitting the thread up. Altamel (talk) 21:11, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Lol sounds good

@Sconant93: These two sources [1][2] corroborate some of what your grandmother said. You can use them to file a semi-protected edit request at Talk:Mel Gibson. Follow the instructions here. Altamel (talk) 21:25, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

It is done[edit]

It is done, my friend! As of yesterday, the article on Özdere is fully completed like I said I would when you congratulated me, with images, citations and all, and nominated for DYK. I encourage you to provide feedback and to contribute yourself, I would love to see this article eventually reach WP:GA or WP:FA. Wishing you the best, Coderenius () 17:11, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Great! At a brief glance I'd say the article may need some more sources before GA. It's difficult for me to make a detailed review at this time because my Internet connection is spotty, so I'll have to read through the sources later. I'm also going to make some comments on the GA page. Altamel (talk) 05:38, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

RfD Notice[edit]

I removed the notice from the page because I didn't see the listing at RfD. Where do you see it? Compassionate727 (talk) 17:36, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

@User:Compassionate727: TheChampionMan1234 added it to the discussion "Malaixiya" which was re-listed today, so you can find it WP:RfD. The addition was out-of-process, which probably explains why you couldn't find it. I'm fixing the RfD link now. Altamel (talk) 17:43, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
Ah, thanks. Compassionate727 (talk) 17:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Another review[edit]

I didn't know if you would be interested in reviewing Sagadahoc Bridge, another page I created. Thanks either way 331dot (talk) 15:16, 8 September 2015 (UTC)

@331dot Yes check.svg Done There are few sentences that follow the original source a bit more closely (see WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASING) than I am comfortable with. I fixed the beginning of the Name and History sections, which I think takes care of the most egregious instances, though you might want to double-check the rest of the article as well. The article does seem notable, so there are no other issues. Good work! Altamel (talk) 15:58, 8 September 2015 (UTC)


The vandals kind of got us on that one! Thanks for your help. Jacona (talk) 16:39, 10 September 2015 (UTC)

@Jacona You are welcome! But you see, if they hadn't overdone it, we might not have noticed the "Principal" mischief they were up to. Altamel (talk) 16:46, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
P.S. It's amazing how long vandalism manages to stay on school articles. If you want a good laugh, check out these edits to Parish Hill High School. For three months, the article stated that the school had been the site of a battle between "pirates of the Red Sea" and Communists. Altamel (talk) 16:46, 10 September 2015 (UTC)


Thank you for your message on my talk page. In regards to the article you mentioned I tagged it with G1 as it was a wall of uncyclopedic text, incomprehensible in its form at then, with little value for Wikipedia. In hindsight, I could have tagged it wit G12 as well/instead, and I will try to be more careful in the future :) Kebabpizza (talk) 10:04, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

I think you gave the wrong warning[edit]

See mine. Krett12 (talk) 15:37, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

@Krett12 Hmm, I should been more careful with the revert edit summary. When I see an edit that inserts information that doesn't seem true my custom is to revert and mark it "unsourced", as an assumption of good faith, in case it was true. However, it is obvious that nobody is "king of the world", so I probably should have used a more precise edit summary. These were typical juvenile test edits, going around calling oneself "king of the world"— but labeling those edits "deliberate factual errors" seemed a bit harsh. When I went to place the user warning, I realized that the text of {{uw-unsourced1}} says "if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so", which would be bad advice for this instance, since there is no way to source a false statement! Upon reflection, I would have used an edit summary like "probably not true" and left {{uw-error1}} on their user talk instead. By the way, are you new to vandalism patrol? Altamel (talk) 15:49, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
I am not "new", people just patronize me for no reason. Krett12 (talk) 23:43, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 29 October[edit]

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Thanks for taking care of my COI-encumbered edit request. I appreciate it. Ron Schnell 03:08, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Emeco 1006[edit]

If you have a minute. I think the edits were supported in the prior discussion a few weeks ago, but nobody went ahead and made the edits. David King, Ethical Wiki (Talk) 19:40, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

@David King, Ethical Wiki: Yellow check.svg Partly done: check the talk page. Hope that helps. Altamel (talk) 20:13, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. You never have to apologize, btw, for doing something slightly different than whatever I suggested. A bit of pet peeve of mine. The only folks that owe me an apology are the ones that harass and bully me, create drama and ABF.
I've got one more comment here and that should be it for these pages, but the editor I pinged there is new and not online very often, so figure it may take a few weeks for them to respond. I'd like to be patient and wait for them, but thought I would let you know as well. Just as an FYI - this version has links to PDFs of the sources you couldn't access on Dropbox. Thanks again! David King, Ethical Wiki (Talk) 13:36, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Amb. Colleen Bell[edit]

Hi there, Altamel. In September you helped with a small request on the bio for Colleen Bell, the U.S. Ambassador to Hungary. I'm dropping a note here today to see if you might be able to assist me with a content update to a section of the Bell article. (You can find the request here.) As always, I'm happy to receive feedback and discuss further. WWB Too (Talk · COI) 16:46, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

@WWB Too Due to real life obligations, I have been rather stretched for time this past week. I'll take a look if I have the chance. Altamel (talk) 02:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
OK, I totally understand. I'll continue to look for another editor who might help, but if you can find the time in the near future, I'd appreciate it! Best, WWB Too (Talk · COI) 18:15, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

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re my ACE voter guide & guide to guides[edit]

I chose to separate the guide to guides onto its own page and have the ACE template link to my guide and not my guide to guides. As far as I can tell, this is acceptable, if not I am willing to delete my guide to guides. THEowner of a l l 22:52, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes, that is good enough for me. It might not be enough for others, but judging from Floq's opinion, I doubt anyone else is likely to care. Altamel (talk) 06:52, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

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Merry Christmas![edit]

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78.26's RFA Appreciation award[edit]

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Thank you for the participation and support at my RFA. It is truly appreciated. I hope to be of further help around here, and if you see me doing something dumb, you know where to find me. Again, I thank you. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 00:02, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Altamel![edit]

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@Yamaguchi先生 Happy New Year to you too! Altamel (talk) 22:49, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Altamel![edit]

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Thank you for supporting my RfA[edit]

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Thank you for participating at my RfA. Your support was very much appreciated even if I did get a bit scorched. Brianhe (talk) 02:46, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

What's up man?[edit]

You can't touch this StephenFGlansberg (talk) 03:25, 9 February 2016 (UTC)